lost-ark-discussions

[lapis matrix]

where the bots at

bring everything down to 1g again

[viscid sand]

[tulip charm]

my artist have very good loot rng recently too

[viscid sand]

[tulip charm]

the rocks over written the good sales, but like a stream of 30-50k items

[delicate sandal]

[turbid oriole]

mail it here if you dont want it

[delicate sandal]

2 ester drops and that

[turbid oriole]

@tulip charm

wheres the best chinese restaurant youve been to

[empty sleet]

Prob gonna play the game again but gonna make a new char cuz im feeling overwhelmed from the last time i quit, what are good classes to play that ppl want?

That arent supports

[viscid sand]

there are not many undesirable classes. but sorcs be struggling atm 'cause no one really wants them

[tulip charm]

thats why i can't ever buss, i will attempt to loot stuff always, granted, before this neck dropped for 5 weeks i ddin't get sht

[tulip charm]

nothing here, its all american chinese food

[turbid oriole]

[empty sleet]

ive heard about gatekeeping being a problem. Surely some classes are more wanted than others no?

[robust birch]

[uneven mortar]

soul eater trust me

[viscid sand]

gatekeeping is more down to gear rather than class

[uneven mortar]

play soul eater

if you dont like soul eater play slayer

[turbid oriole]

[empty sleet]

i wasthinking reaper tbh

[robust birch]

i paid for a server

[frail shard]

yeah we need more rich arabian who have condo in dubai and have 10m$ steam fund

[uneven mortar]

how confident are you with your hands

[turbid oriole]

wtf

[viscid sand]

if you're starting a new character, you won't be at the stage in the game where you'll be gatekept for your class.

[turbid oriole]

i thought fhanum was hosting

[frail shard]

wont get gatekeep if youre rich

[robust birch]

its pinned

[empty sleet]

Dw im not gonna p2w lol i dont like spending a lot of cash on games

[frail shard]

you are not fhanum?

[frail shard]

i thought you are fhanum!

[turbid oriole]

no

[uneven mortar]

wait hes not fhanum?

[turbid oriole]

#freefhanum

[empty sleet]

Good, i was pretty good at PVP on Wardancer/Striker

[turbid oriole]

@rigid aurora

[frail shard]

but youre friendly enough and knows and have all capybara stuff!

[viscid sand]

can't-believe-it-aint-fhanum

[frail shard]

you are fhanum

[uneven mortar]

reaper do alot of dmg , but you take alot of dmg

[uneven mortar]

slayer on the other hand, you do alot of damage, and you take less damage while being ez tonplay

[empty sleet]

So just dont get hit?

[viscid sand]

just dont get hit

[uneven mortar]

well if youre that confident godspeed young man

[empty sleet]

whats the dash CD on reaper?

[uneven mortar]

[frail shard]

you choose to play reaper?!! you can math? you master in trigonometry?

[viscid sand]

6-8s but you use your filler skills for mobility

[frail shard]

this guy want to main reaper omg

[empty sleet]

Perfect i should be fine

Back in my day I used to carry Valtan runs on my WD

👴

[uneven mortar]

should be ez then

[empty sleet]

How long is the counter for reaper? i like shorter CD ones tbh

[viscid sand]

hunger reaper is higher apm than both versions of wd to perform well

[frail shard]

reaper is the only class that can counter from butt

[uneven mortar]

reaper wep glow is kinda sad

[empty sleet]

I should be ok, mainly asking cuz i need mobility

[uneven mortar]

when i see lins +25 wep

[turbid oriole]

are you in fhabinos

[tulip charm]

because stuff like this can happen

[uneven mortar]

hes fhabibi

[tulip charm]

like who's doing the stagg/destru/counter in this group?

[uneven mortar]

no one

[viscid sand]

like i said, he's not at that point in the game yet

[uneven mortar]

[viscid sand]

so it literally does not matter unless he's gonna day1 voldis

[empty sleet]

Prob not gonna play LA as a side game

[uneven mortar]

once he gets more knowledge hell prolly make other classes

[empty sleet]

Mainly playing WoW SOD atm

[viscid sand]

ye, at that point he'll make the classes who are better mech enjoyers

[empty sleet]

Dailies went down to 1 each right?

[uneven mortar]

yeah lost ark is also my side game tbh not much to do

[viscid sand]

3 unas, 1 guardian, 2 chaos dungeon

[uneven mortar]

fifa main

[empty sleet]

rip

they lowered the only daily that was fun

[viscid sand]

true, but it was also the most time consuming

and people want to get their homework done on their alts

[empty sleet]

Really? Guardians were like 3 mins back in my day 👴

[supple parrot]

at end of the day sorc and gs does enuf stagger for voldis, ppl just suck at those classes

[uneven mortar]

i do rested guaridan

[empty sleet]

Chaos was like 6 for me cuz u had to wait for the mobs to spawn

[uneven mortar]

chaos is faster now

[viscid sand]

the guardian itself is quick, the party finder, not much so

[empty sleet]

True

[uneven mortar]

on my hiatus classes i skip gr and unas only do chaos

[empty sleet]

when does the event end?

[uneven mortar]

leap price will eventually drop

[viscid sand]

in like a week

for this particular one

[empty sleet]

Rip

[viscid sand]

then it's new event cycle

[uneven mortar]

but shards are stable

[empty sleet]

Oh okay cool

[viscid sand]

the express event might still be a while away from expiring i think

[lean pewter]

shards can hold up to 5 horses

[supple parrot]

shard literally dropped from 1k to 500 alrdy

[uneven mortar]

yeah

i hope frog appears on thaemine

so we get 3 months to collec tgold man

[empty sleet]

damn 1k gold

inflation is crazy

[viscid sand]

players just have more gold/week than the good ol' days of alaric

[supple parrot]

closing in on 2k bounds on my main, someone pity a weapon and lmk

and ill try to hit some weapon hone

[valid turtle]

[viscid sand]

im at 15% artisan with 1 tap per day

[valid turtle]

only cost 30k gold

wow

[tulip charm]

i almost did...

[uneven mortar]

crazy how cheap it is to hone old classes

[viscid sand]

because they've been in the sweatshop longer?

[uneven mortar]

yeah

[supple parrot]

real f2p like me can never main swap

[azure valley]

2024 and still pretending

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

[viscid sand]

just stop tapping main

[supple parrot]

2024 and still spreadin lies about me

[nova marlin]

Im so glad I ran NM so it could be faster since I'm kinda late with weeklies -_-

[uneven mortar]

it would be really cheap to hone scrapper for me but i dont really want to prog with high apm class

[viscid sand]

just mash keys ez

[tulip charm]

everyone died...

[nova marlin]

Yeah g1-2 wasn't different either

[uneven mortar]

my hand gets tired

[nova marlin]

48 48 in g1-2

[uneven mortar]

scrapper is so spammy holy shit

[viscid sand]

can relate

[uneven mortar]

i get tired even everything is one shot

imagine progging 3 hours on that class

[viscid sand]

after progging voldis week1 on my scouter, i didnt want to touch the game

hands were shaking

[uneven mortar]

[supple parrot]

isnt scrapper

giga strong now

tai

[uneven mortar]

extremely strong

[viscid sand]

strong doesnt make it any less apm

[uneven mortar]

like 20% stronger strong

but yeah hands more tired

[supple parrot]

boomer hands

[uneven mortar]

if the boss dont keep phasing its really nice

keeps up with any class

but on bullshit reclear burst will of course do more

[tulip charm]

i saw your se is the highest ilevel now and juiced too, why you give up on scrapper/zerker ---

[uneven mortar]

inhate cutting elixir

[azure valley]

skill issue

[uneven mortar]

ill get full 10 on scrapper too eventually, and move zerker gems to slayer

[viscid sand]

My only goal left is to get L10s on my bard and then I'm full rice farmer mode

[uneven mortar]

mine is full 10 on my main 3 and 25 wep on se

im too old to play 6 chars now

[frail shard]

my only goal is to happy in life

[viscid sand]

Unachievable

Go next

[frail shard]

die soon

is that achievable

[uneven mortar]

this dude asking too much

[frail shard]

[dawn yacht]

what is happy for you then ?

[uneven mortar]

banging cocktail waitresses 2 at a time

[bold aspen]

[dawn yacht]

maybe you could if you stop feeling 65 and start doing light workouts mfer

[lean pewter]

you shouldn't exert yourself so much

[dawn yacht]

invest the wasted fifa packs money into yourself

[lean pewter]

your old heart might not hold

[bold aspen]

he paying 3k a week for a massage u think he aint getting a handjob atleast ?

[still lintel]

@nova garden https://fxtwitter.com/pumpkinpotion/status/1751761811446128901

[dawn yacht]

[lean pewter]

30 second happy ending

[bold aspen]

[quiet igloo]

[dawn yacht]

he should invest in himself and stop feeling old a humans mind is strong

[uneven mortar]

thats chuan thats spending 3k a week

[lean pewter]

can you do my raids for me?

[stark thicket]

[bold aspen]

sure man didnt even finish mine

[dawn yacht]

[still lintel]

i just saw the thing in the reply jesus

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-skeleton-gif-25954239

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/googas-wet-wet-cat-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-20820186

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/rühl-ruhl-markus-thunfischshake-bodybuilding-germanbeast-gym-gif-19866795

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-stabil-markus-ruhl-gif-8645707

[dawn yacht]

500g magerquark als haus abdichtungsmittel

[bold aspen]

[dawn yacht]

der isst mir quark mit süßstoff ist schädlich aber hauptsache bringt was

[bold aspen]

99% der sachen die wir zu uns nehmen sind schädlich

einfach den quark gönnen

[quiet igloo]

[dawn yacht]

ja nh muss nicht schmecken muss wirken

[empty sleet]

Valtan is a NAW server right?

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/markus-rühl-hähnchen-suppe-1637018370657236757823528530-schmeckt-brutal-lecker-gif-26052218

[supple parrot]

Chat so dead it’s not even English ne more

[supple parrot]

Yes

[empty sleet]

are the servers bad at night or something?

im lagging hella

[quiet igloo]

No

[bold aspen]

when u get juiced zerk in brel and then u look at him he plays BT

[dawn yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-stabil-markus-ruhl-gif-8645707

[supple parrot]

[quiet igloo]

Idk what to play now

[bold aspen]

[still lintel]

oh but you do

palworld

[empty sleet]

WoW SOD is fun

[still lintel]

maybe with new patch coming soon

but not if you been playing since it launched

[quiet igloo]

Imma play blue archive

[empty sleet]

if u want a top down grimdawns good too

[still lintel]

[empty sleet]

Ive been playing since launch and have enjoyed it

Theres a lot to do

[still lintel]

not rly

[quiet igloo]

?

what

[empty sleet]

are u on pve server?

[still lintel]

nope

[empty sleet]

then what do u find missing

[quiet igloo]

It's missing dn

[empty sleet]

ive been enjoying just pvping and raiding

[supple parrot]

Play lost ark

Best game

[quiet igloo]

[supple parrot]

[quiet igloo]

I'm two days clean, I am cooked

[supple parrot]

[empty sleet]

Will on the side hopefully the new changes keep me in the game

[dark raft]

We love lost ark

[quiet igloo]

U forgot the !

[dark raft]

[empty sleet]

I quit day of vykas release cuz i went on a 3 month trip then never had the urge to play again

[quiet igloo]

[still lintel]

well atleast lost ark raids doesnt reset every 3 days but then again sod raid is only 1 raid and you dont need 6 characters raiding

[quiet igloo]

[empty sleet]

Its also 30mins

But id def prefer 1 week raids

cuz then i respec to pvp less

[quiet igloo]

Pvp

Cringe

[empty sleet]

Bros a pve andy

Sad that LA PVP died

[still lintel]

pvp more like ganking low levels or fighting solo/small groups with bigger groups

[quiet igloo]

Idk what you're even talking ab

[still lintel]

[quiet igloo]

[empty sleet]

I remember it was popping but it started going downhill

[empty sleet]

Nah im not a loser

I pvp in ashenvale outside astranaar

[quiet igloo]

Lost arks pvp should just remain dead

[still lintel]

im not a loser
i do loser pvp

[quiet igloo]

Shits atrociously ass

[empty sleet]

?

Its the pvp zone

[quiet igloo]

I'd rather solo queue against pred 3stacks then play lost ark pvp

[empty sleet]

outside the alliances base

[quiet igloo]

[empty sleet]

where they can retreat to guards

The only other good wpvp spots with ppl at max lvl is like outside BFD or gold farming spots

and i dont wanna kill randoms going to raid

[quiet igloo]

[still lintel]

only good wpvp is killing people outside raid
i dont wanna kill randoms going to raid

👍

[empty sleet]

I didnt say that

[quiet igloo]

[still lintel]

you literally did tho

[empty sleet]

I said the only other good spots to fight ppl actually at my lvl was bfd

Cuz thats the only good populated area

Your options are Astranaar, BFD or Gold farming spots to fight 25s

[still lintel]

cus thats the place people go to for raid

[empty sleet]

Astranaar?

[still lintel]

theres no reason being near bfd unless you raiding

or killing randoms going to raid

[empty sleet]

Yeah i know

which is why i said i dont go there

[empty sleet]

.

[tulip charm]

its not as bad as people think it is

[supple parrot]

Bt is unironically stronger

Mayhem buff when

[empty sleet]

All i said were the actual good PvP spots i never said i camp outside bfd

I just wait outside Astranaar for people going to the pvp event

[still lintel]

wouldnt call killing randos going to a raid a "good" pvp place

[uncut dirge]

TIL if you have a critical (helmet) elixir on your chest slot

[empty sleet]

im aware but im talking populated areas with lvl 25s that is technically a good place

[uncut dirge]

the helmet levels don't add to the set bonus level

eg if you had 4 phys defense and 3 master (order)

if you put it in the chest slot it would be like a 4-0 elixir

if you put it on the helm slot it would be a 0-3 elixir

[tulip charm]

wonder if its possible to get elixir 40 next week, its kinda dumb my glavier closer to 40 than arti

[uncut dirge]

and i don't mean in terms of you not getting any stats from it, but you also don't get the level sum for sets

[quiet igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-gif-19808527

[bold aspen]

[keen copper]

my mains at 36 elixir rn

need a better shoulder and helm

[tulip charm]

fucklkjsdflksjdf

[bold aspen]

[uncut dirge]

i dont like cutting elixirs

i realized that if you don't get some lucky rolls in the first few cuts

[supple parrot]

Zheng going for a 3rd 9/7 that he won’t use

[uncut dirge]

the rest is a waste of your time

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

because it's almost impossible to turn it around

but you gotta go through the motions just in case you can pull a reset

[supple parrot]

Just salvage at that point

No reason to waste gold

[uncut dirge]

blue elixirs don't cost anything to cut

[supple parrot]

Purple? Yes they do

[uncut dirge]

i mean purples

it's like 40 gold

[supple parrot]

40 gold per click or w.e plus catalyst

[supple parrot]

Still adds up

Each elixir is like what 15+ clicks maybe 20

[uncut dirge]

54 gold per click

if you're at like 6 cuts away

[supple parrot]

U cur 6 elixirs per char

[uncut dirge]

if you can reset the elixir there's a chance

[supple parrot]

That’s like 4k+ gold per char

If u reset that’s more gold

[uncut dirge]

yes, but purple elixirs suck and are limited

and the difference between not having 35 set vs having it is big

[supple parrot]

Which is why I don’t even bother cutting them for the most part

[queen grail]

Fucking Sonavel and oom, name a better combo

[supple parrot]

[uncut dirge]

and i'm sure soon enough if you wanna go do ivory hm you'll actually be demanded to have that

[supple parrot]

Hm voldis is a joke

[uncut dirge]

well people don't gatekeep over what's necessary

they gatekeep over investment

[supple parrot]

Even my on ilvl gunlancer can do 30% higher than the minimum dps

Just get multiple chars to 1620 and rotate sup in a static

[tulip charm]

i am trying to think since there is 2 gunlancers now, and 2 glaviers, how this fits, but prob won't matter too much

[quiet igloo]

I actually kinda like this

[supple parrot]

The problem is yall have 2 Artis

[stark thicket]

like what

[tulip charm]

alright, i learned a pretty important lesson, first time this happened in 2 years

[dawn yacht]

[tulip charm]

lock your equiped gear, i somehow switched a necklace my bard was wearing with a 5k neck i was relisting, then listed my bards neck for 5k

noticed later suddenly bard became 4x3+2

immediately delisted my neck, lost some gold, and changed it back

lucky my bard neck didn't get sniped

[tidal sleet]

[supple parrot]

our run was giga slow

[supple parrot]

[queen grail]

Trying to help a low-roster how he fucked up in a guardian and zero responses, I swear, some people just don't want to learn or improve.

[uncut dirge]

i'm quite surprised

my sorc hasn't got a single good elixir

[dawn yacht]

Skill issue

[uncut dirge]

i've done ivory on her every week, i've cut all the elixirs and they've all sucked

best i've got is a 4-2, which is basically unusable

unless it's on helm/gloves

[supple parrot]

purples?

[uncut dirge]

ye

[supple parrot]

i mean thats pretty normal

[uncut dirge]

is it

most people i've talked to have got a lot better

[dawn yacht]

Nightmare fuel valk mains

[uncut dirge]

even my soul eater has got a lot better

[queen grail]

Anything over 4 is average/decent on purple.

[supple parrot]

i just go for 4-1 on every piece on purples

and then stop cutting

[queen grail]

4/4 Is super rare and 4/3 or even 4/2 are quite rare.

[uncut dirge]

that's like saying

5-0 is decent on legendaries

[supple parrot]

no point in tryin to go higher on purples, waste of time and effort

[uncut dirge]

5x5 you ain't doing shit with

[supple parrot]

ur comparing 5-0 on lego to 4-1 on purple?

[uncut dirge]

.

[queen grail]

Ye, It's decent on purple because you're not supposed to be spamming purple for max stats unless you're rich On legendary you aim higher.

[supple parrot]

u get like whawt 2 more clicks on lego vs purple?

that is huge

clicks toward end is much more valuable

[uncut dirge]

you also have more time to spread your transmutes out

and make the result unusable

[queen grail]

All I aim for is +4/+whatever on the special effect on each item on Purple and I'm done.

If you can get Lv.4 Boss damage, dmg reduction %, extra dmg or critdmg, and whatever set on gloves/helmet then you're gg for purple no need to spend more unless you're somehow super close to 35.

[supple parrot]

its 2 more at the end... if its spread out at start then its same for both purp and lego

[queen grail]

Like, my paladin, I'm aiming for 35 on him since he got super lucky and cut 4/4 - 4/4 - 4/2 - 4/2 so If I cut 4/3 I get bonus, but that's mostly just for fun, It's not needed.

[supple parrot]

ur essentially saying u want at least 4/3 on purple

4/3 on purple is same or harder than 5/4 on lego

[uncut dirge]

one of them at this point? yeah

i'd expect some

[pure lily]

is brel g3 usually hard to do for pub reclear

[uncut dirge]

no

usually no

sometimes yes

the less damage the group has the harder it usually is

because people are clueless about placing the fire from blue phase

and then combine it with messing up blue and yellow staggers and it can just snowball away

[supple parrot]

3 out of my 5 non 1620 alts dont have a single 4/3

[queen grail]

@uncut dirge For some getting 35 set will take one week, for others 1 year, It's just how it is, but I wouldn't stress so much with Purple, just getting Lv.4 on special efffects is good enough.

[uncut dirge]

since you end up losing players leading to less damage, leading to more fires, leading to more headless chickens not knowing how to place fire

[uncut dirge]

yeah but as you said, you don't even cut them

pretty much everyone i know has at least one 4-3 piece

with purples

one is supposedly even close to 40 set with purples

like 37 or 38 or something

[supple parrot]

ur not supposed to even get to 35 off purples

its a waste of time to try to

[uncut dirge]

ehh

it's more damage

getting legos will take so long

first it takes like another 2-4 months to get to 1620

then it'll take another few weeks to get your first usable legendary elixirs

[supple parrot]

?

it takes a month to get to 35 on lego

max

from nothing

ur not gonna get 35 off purples in 2-4 months

unless u luck out majorly

[uncut dirge]

well i sure hope i am

my SE is 1 away

need either 4-3 shoulders, gloves or helmet

[queen grail]

Lies.

[uncut dirge]

actually i guess technically i already have it

i just don't wanna put the elixir on my shoulders

[tulip charm]

[pure lily]

thx was just curious since i been trying to get a reclear tonight lol

[uncut dirge]

if i put this on my shoulders

i'd have it right now on SE

but i wanna put it on chest

[supple parrot]

what? u havent even been 1620 for a month and u have it on multiple chars no?

[uncut dirge]

and chest already has a 4-4

but this one's better

[tulip charm]

save this, don't use it right away, 4-4 is vaulable

[uncut dirge]

yeah i know

man

[bold aspen]

[uncut dirge]

the only lost ark i did today is chaos gate, guardians

and cut elixirs

[lean pewter]

that sounds like a lot of lost ark

[supple parrot]

just hone to 1620

[uncut dirge]

with my honing success it's gonna take an eternity

especially on the sorc

[lean pewter]

I cut this, I'm keeping it in case I could use it to get set

[supple parrot]

well u prob wont get into any lobbies on a sorc anyways

[uncut dirge]

i've pitied most hones from 1590 onward

[tulip charm]

i tried to hit my glavier weapon to +20 with 200 bound leaps

11% artisian now -_-

[buoyant wagon]

f2p life

[supple parrot]

why r u stil honing ur 1620 char alts

u going for 1630?

[lean pewter]

zheng will be doing thamine hard week 1 on his main 6

[supple parrot]

why not wait for advanced honing

u spend all this gold on honing

but wont use ur 9/7 rock

[uncut dirge]

i dont know how many leaps i've used

[supple parrot]

truly zheng logic

[uncut dirge]

but i used to be at like 2.5 mil shards, now i'm down to 1 mil shards

and i've gained at least 1-1.5 mil shards in the meantime

and somehow that only got me to 1610

wait, shards are definitely more than that

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/chihuahua-when-you-see-right-through-their-bs-cute-gif-9446413

[lean pewter]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/370017032957329419/1181602688190922852/image0-47-1-1.gif

[bold aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1098067376991391926/1105476257816264756/1105218119947010058_1.gif?ex=65c22a7e&is=65afb57e&hm=46c152a03a2013cc8876f58af9a44460b94b4c06b2dcb5082c465415e4da6286&

[lean pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-yourself-gif-4614880990811011027

[bold aspen]

[still lintel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852619895119020033/1195963792274751629/BANDI_______-_1746163720949211347_-_GIF_1.gif?ex=65b5e714&is=65a37214&hm=2a8f878b2353fec66e594b732e0db39d907436a33a02ad7651fde984bdb4f07f&

[uncut dirge]

gonna need like 500k worth of gold to hone to 1620

[lean pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/richard-ayoade-big-fat-quiz-gif-24489283

[uncut dirge]

if i do it with all bound stuff

[bold aspen]

[lean pewter]

just ask chuan to give you a small loan

[bold aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494482399908986882/1176585733352468500/spin.gif?ex=65c2765a&is=65b0015a&hm=ad3d21a76e96d9723eb14acc873260d1e05b3fdeed397f10e79da8fc75d390ff&

[torn ether]

BOBR

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

i had 200 bounds....ill try again in a week when i get 200 more

[uncut dirge]

it's like 270k in raw gold and 220k in fusion mats

prime orehas are like 82-83g each

[buoyant wagon]

I wish my orehas were 80g but leaps were 110

[uncut dirge]

EU prices have been steadily rising from like 50g to 80 now

[lean pewter]

wish we had as many bots as NA

[uncut dirge]

don't seeit stopping any time soon either unless we suddenly get an influx of 'new' players

[buoyant wagon]

Bots aren’t helping the leapstone prices though

[supple parrot]

u know if u wait til advanced honing u'll get much more ilvls right. there is 0 reason to hone past 1620 UNLESS ur going for 1630 for thaemine hm

[buoyant wagon]

Well at least they make gold cheap

[bold aspen]

just ask chuan to play EUC and we will

[buoyant wagon]

Gold prices going down lately

[lean pewter]

that's true, they're good for fusion mats tho

[bold aspen]

bot farm for euc

[uncut dirge]

well, EU is definitely having a lack of bots

you can tell because excavation is better for crafting all fusion mats

when bots are active fish is cheaper

[buoyant wagon]

Because chinese people don’t play on EU lol

[lean pewter]

should I make thread on official discord asking for more bots on eu?

[uncut dirge]

although!

maybe that's not as true

[buoyant wagon]

That’s why you don’t have that many bots

[tulip charm]

come frog

[uncut dirge]

because i have seen excavation bots

[buoyant wagon]

All the customers are on west and some in east

[supple parrot]

why r u doing frog right now

[lean pewter]

I've seen some chinese players on eu

[uncut dirge]

for some reason the excavation bots i've seen were all paladins

[lean pewter]

like legit chinese

[bold aspen]

[buoyant wagon]

They probably study there

[lean pewter]

studying how to be proper racist

[buoyant wagon]

But the bulk of the Chinese population is on west and east

[supple parrot]

? why u racist

[buoyant wagon]

Also because a lot of them work and study in the US and Canada

[bold aspen]

best place to learn how to be racist is EU after all

[uncut dirge]

i think it's more that EU is poor

[torn ether]

you dont be racist by studyin

[lean pewter]

I'm european

[uncut dirge]

so EU doesn't have money to rmt

[torn ether]

you bron racist

[supple parrot]

there is a lot of literal chinese ppl in EU

[uncut dirge]

so there's less bots

[buoyant wagon]

EU doesn’t like to spend on games that is true

BDO is a good example

[supple parrot]

EU too broke with their 50% tax

[uncut dirge]

i don't think it's the tax

it's more that most eu countries are poor compared to america

[tulip charm]

i need gold to fuel my honing, you guys convinced me to do frogs unrested now

[buoyant wagon]

Eh

The core EU countries enjoy the same standard of living

[supple parrot]

stop honing ur 1620 chars, ur just pissing away gold use that gold to build 5x3+2 instead

[lean pewter]

what does even core eu countries mean

[uncut dirge]

standard of living is a loaded term though

[buoyant wagon]

Germany/France namely, the UK (brexit kek)

[bold aspen]

where austrian painter came from is one of them

[lean pewter]

austria

[uncut dirge]

OECD says US household disposable income is $62k a year

[buoyant wagon]

That’s mostly in the cities

[uncut dirge]

Hungary's like $29k

even germany's like $50k

[torn ether]

i waited 11 min queue for this

[uncut dirge]

i mean the stats aren't something absolute to look at

[supple parrot]

maybe thats why they hungry

[torn ether]

[uncut dirge]

they're not exactly the same thing everywhere, but this includes stuff like social transfers

also the $29k number for hungary is sus to me

my static had a few hungarians and we still chat even after they've quit

[buoyant wagon]

EU gaming culture just doesn’t really like to spend as much

[uncut dirge]

and they're definitely poorer as a country than that

we basically only had two people who bought any gold from official sources

one guy did it once and the other guy did it more regularly

the other 6 had basically only bought early access and that's it

[supple parrot]

i mean a few ppl wont really represent a whole country. like my friends in china were all loaded, but average is piss poor

[bold aspen]

NA the only place where you need to pay like 20-30k just to give birth go in debt when having a baby and send family in debt when you die

[uncut dirge]

yeah, sure, but they have a general sense of wealth in the country

[bold aspen]

10/10 place

[uncut dirge]

basically, oecd says hungary is richer than estonia and i'm calling bs

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-big-lips-gif-13233291

[tulip charm]

you know they always say chinese bot farmers in lost ark, but i am willing to bet its most likely like 99% from venezuela or something

[stark thicket]

Hello European

[uncut dirge]

like according to this hungary's almost as rich as new zealand!

[buoyant wagon]

Venezuelans can’t run the game on their potatoes

[uncut dirge]

nah

[buoyant wagon]

That’s why they are on RuneScape

[lean pewter]

Hello ambiguous being

[uncut dirge]

it can't be venezuela

you'd know if it's venezuela

[torn ether]

minimun wage for turkey is 6.8k holy shit

we are fucked

lmao

[uncut dirge]

what serenei said

[buoyant wagon]

The bots are actually predominantly Chinese

[lean pewter]

all venezuelans are on runescape

[uncut dirge]

in runescape it's obvious that they're venezuelans

[buoyant wagon]

You’d know if you talk to gold sellers

[lean pewter]

their computers can't run anything else

[stark thicket]

[uncut dirge]

eh, i'm sure they could

it's more that there are enough venezuelans that do it

[buoyant wagon]

China has lots of gold farming studios ranging from individuals making a quick buck to repurposed crypto mining farms

[uncut dirge]

so why take the risk of going to another game where you have to figure all this shit out

[valid cave]

one thing americans dont understand that people yeah pay alot less for stuff elsewhere but salaries and everything is alot less in other countries (america is still overpriced tho)

[uncut dirge]

if instead you could go work for uncle pedro

[buoyant wagon]

Venezuelan internet and computers are dogshit

[uncut dirge]

sure

but my cpu is from 2014

[buoyant wagon]

They would not be able to bot lost ark effectively even if they wanted to

[stark thicket]

[uncut dirge]

cost like €250-300 at the time

and it runs lost ark fine except akkan g3

[buoyant wagon]

Also the power fucking goes out regularly depending where you live

Because the country is in shambles

[bold aspen]

US is overpriced af

[uncut dirge]

i'm sure if you turn down all the settings and wht not you could run it on a veritable potato

[valid cave]

south africans can go to work for 5 years in america and they can retire with millions of local currency

[uncut dirge]

that's true

[buoyant wagon]

Their computers would explode running 20 clients at once

[uncut dirge]

ok i guess you're right

i didn't really think about the multi-client part

that makes runescape a lot more better of a choice

[valid cave]

bro south africa has shceduled outages daily for the last 8-10 years kekw

[buoyant wagon]

Runescape as a game has also withstood the test of time

[uncut dirge]

hey, it's almost like america then!

[buoyant wagon]

It will be around after lost ark dies

[uncut dirge]

i think runescape did MMOs right

instead of trying to copy the wow model they just tried to make a MUD but graphical

[valid cave]

bro americans cry when their power goes out for 2 hours

[uncut dirge]

and over the years updates bring more and more content to the game

[buoyant wagon]

Wdym copy the wow model

[uncut dirge]

unlike lost ark or wow

[buoyant wagon]

They existed before wow

[uncut dirge]

where new raid comes out and that makes old raid obsolete

[buoyant wagon]

And were successful before it

[valid cave]

whereas its normal for us to have 4 hours of outages daily XD

[delicate sandal]

@buoyant wagonlink me some cn streams

[uncut dirge]

yeah i know

my account in RS is from 2002

[valid cave]

at the worst times its 12-16 hours

[uncut dirge]

my eastern european ass can't even remember a power outage that was longer than a few seconds

[lean pewter]

wowzers

[uncut dirge]

i know there were some when i was a kid, but i don't remember any

oh wait no, i'm lying!

[valid cave]

its sad shit when your guild goes for raids and your power is out kekw

[buoyant wagon]

命运方舟 just look this up on douyin or bilibili

[uncut dirge]

10 years ago there was a power outage that was a few hours

affected parts of the city and my workplace

[delicate sandal]

K

[uncut dirge]

some power station melted in the heat

[buoyant wagon]

Top few streams are usually some rmt service honing, cutting rocks, or tapping quality

[valid cave]

nah here their favourite excuse is the "coals are wet"

[uncut dirge]

i remember that power outage because the office lost power, UPSes kicked in and all that

and then after UPSes died everything died

except one light

and nobody knows why that light didn't die despite there being no power

[buoyant wagon]

Quite a few of the promoted streams have blatant rmt ads on them

[uncut dirge]

somebody joked it was the government/competitors spying on us

[buoyant wagon]

Tuesday is a good day to watch Chinese streams though

[valid cave]

lel

[uncut dirge]

how is RMT considered culturally in china

[buoyant wagon]

To see people jail in brel

[uncut dirge]

like

[supple parrot]

aint that just targeted adsense

[buoyant wagon]

And whales cutting bracelets

[uncut dirge]

if somebody reports you for immoral behavior for RMTing (cause it's cheating)

are people worried

[buoyant wagon]

Nobody gives a shit

Nobody will report you

[uncut dirge]

like will you get -100 citizen points

[buoyant wagon]

If you have money to spend on the game, good for you

There are plenty of websites and social media contacts

[uncut dirge]

i see

chinese culture is fascinating

remove the government fromt he equation and it sounds a lot like the culture i grew up in

[buoyant wagon]

Chinese gaming culture doesn’t care if you cheat as long as you cheat in a way that doesn’t directly impact people’s gaming experience

Which is why nobody gives a shit if you rmt

[uncut dirge]

yeah, that was the opinion here as well

although most people i knew were on the other side of the rmt equation

[buoyant wagon]

They only care if you are aimbotting them in apex, crashing servers, or doing other more directly harmful things

They’ve long accepted that the people at the top of the food chain are the whales

[tulip charm]

ive said it before but this re balance patch makes this char so much more fun to play now

[uncut dirge]

i agree

[stark thicket]

How come companies don't make competitive pricing to fight rmt though? It's always ass conversion and you get so little. Could just price out the rmt sellers

Maybe my take is dumb

[uncut dirge]

diablo 3 did

[stark thicket]

[uncut dirge]

at the start when they had the real money auction house

it turned out that they basically had to lower the price of gold perpetually

[tulip charm]

hmm, db chestplate 17>18 hit at 9%

[uncut dirge]

because people would just outfarm it for cheaper

[stark thicket]

Well it was a good idea

[wind dagger]

rmt is da way

[stark thicket]

[quartz turret]

[wind dagger]

[stark thicket]

A wild Adriel was caught!

[uncut dirge]

yep, but it just doesn't work in the long-term

[quartz turret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850672089118933012/999891204663693322/0AFAC11C-FF55-4163-997B-EC09B919E36C.gif

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZmxjvFc4dg&ab_channel=AsmongoldClips why exactly is the new season for d4 bad? everyone and their mom is crying, asmongold is making his 37th dead game vid, and microsoft's solution is to fire devs again for a better quality game in the future

[stark thicket]

I'm not supporting d4 until they release the next expansion for free as an apology to everyone

[buoyant wagon]

That wasn’t why they removed rmah

They added it because they saw how d2jsp took over the d2 black market

But the problem with rmah is that it drastically forced drops to be balanced around it

So progression without interacting with it was complete aids

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

The cut that they got from it didn’t outweigh how dogshit of a gaming experience it was for everyone

So they ultimately got rid of it

It also made the game more about trying to make $ instead of playing an arpg for the sake of it

[supple parrot]

d3 died after they removed it

[buoyant wagon]

d4 has a lot of other issues

Namely itemization

[stark thicket]

I don't like the skill system tbh

[wind dagger]

[buoyant wagon]

The new content is boring and not even efficient to fully play through

Old problems like itemization still aren’t fixed

Game had bugs from season 1 which makes people believe it was a hastily developed fork of it

[stark thicket]

I wanted to play minion build And we got this trashmancer where minions are ass .. plz let me left click and watch my minions absolutely demolish everything.

[wind dagger]

[buoyant wagon]

Developers promised “months of work” went into the season but it feels more like 3 days of work

[stark thicket]

Idk didn't touch it

only saw the complaints

[buoyant wagon]

Every d4 content creator is shitting on it

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

The subreddits are shitting on it

[halcyon iron]

D4BAD

[buoyant wagon]

Normally positive threads that occasionally show up don’t show up

[supple parrot]

imagine talkin about d4 in 2024

d4 is so 2023

[buoyant wagon]

Facebook and Twitter are roasting the developers

[stark thicket]

Here I am, excited for poes next league, Poe 2 and last epoch

[buoyant wagon]

The whole d4 team needs to be sacked

[stark thicket]

And I saw a streamer quit d4 to go play torchlight lmao

[supple parrot]

[buoyant wagon]

The developers are actually fucking morons who have no business designing arpgs

They can’t even copy ideas properly from their competitors

[stark thicket]

I bet they are putting all resources into the 100$ expansion that will add very little.

[buoyant wagon]

ROS made D3 playable

Problem is the developers are so fucking clueless for D4 that an expansion isn’t saving it unless the whole team is fired and replaced

[stark thicket]

Blizzard needs to die out, such a disappointment.

[torn ether]

did they even add anything to d4?

[buoyant wagon]

They didn’t even learn from D3 when making D4

The itemization has somehow gotten worse

[stark thicket]

[torn ether]

"bleed damage to close enemies +6.9%"

[wind dagger]

They knew what they did

€€€

[stark thicket]

They had to keep finding ways to make money because less and less people play the games

[lean pewter]

[buoyant wagon]

They made all their money off the buy to play model

[wind dagger]

Should have made a great game in the first place

[buoyant wagon]

They have no incentive to make the game better

Other than selling expansions

[wind dagger]

Low cost high income

[stark thicket]

Prob increasing expansion price because they know alot might not buy the expansion, gonna rely on the hardcore fans

[buoyant wagon]

Blizzard deserves to have all their games review bombed and rmted

[wind dagger]

Rmted

[buoyant wagon]

Because they absolutely fail at delivering live service games

They don’t deserve a legitimate cent of spending

[stark thicket]

[cedar zealot]

It's a good single player rpg you play for a few days but doesn't work as a live service game like Poe

[buoyant wagon]

It’s not even a good single player game

The only people who think that are people who’d eat any shit up and say it was good

[cedar zealot]

I mean you can still play through the campaign and then call it a day, expecting more from it is pointless

[buoyant wagon]

Diablo 2 was and is unironically a better single player game

Even Diablo 3 is better

[cedar zealot]

I never really cared about any game from blizzard

Only played d3 for a few weeks and that was it

[buoyant wagon]

It’s actually insulting D4 shipped the way it is even if you consider turbulent development

[cedar zealot]

I don't understand why they have such a big following

None of their games look good

Wether it be wow or overwatch

[buoyant wagon]

Because people ride on the hope they can capture the magic of D2 again

[dawn yacht]

d2 was peak back at its time

[buoyant wagon]

But the talent and drive behind it is long gone

[cedar zealot]

Feels like they are at least a decade or two behind when it comes to game design

[cedar zealot]

That was a long time ago

[tulip charm]

i thought once upon a time jay wilson was related to chris wilson...
also if a game dev isn't bald i dont trust them

[buoyant wagon]

Blizzard went to shit during the late 2000s and never recovered

[cedar zealot]

Everything I seen from them in the past decade have been average at best

[buoyant wagon]

Mainly the merger

[dawn yacht]

diablo immortal on phone also kinda okay when you bored and wanna kill time

[buoyant wagon]

Immortal isn’t that bad of a game, its biggest sin was being announced when people were expecting a new pc game

[dawn yacht]

i got a few hundred hours playing in on phone

its okay

[buoyant wagon]

Selling a mobile game to a pc gamer crowd is insanity

[cedar zealot]

[buoyant wagon]

Especially the old school pc gamers who believe all games should be buy to play no mtx

[lean pewter]

filthy mobile gamer

[dawn yacht]

there wont be war or conflict mfer what do you want me to do on 12h border patrol shifts

count the grass ?

[lean pewter]

yes

[wind dagger]

Still waiting for when they will launch Overwatch for mobile

[dawn yacht]

[wind dagger]

shibaaloll

[lean pewter]

[stark thicket]

So you telling me you will still trust Jay Wilson?

[bold aspen]

wtf

[lean pewter]

I'm making new one

pretty good so far

[wind dagger]

[tulip charm]

@supple parrot @quartz turret frog?

or is rosey mia

[stark thicket]

[supple parrot]

[wind dagger]

[quartz turret]

k

[supple parrot]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-stop-it-stop-that-i-mean-it-gif-9694318

[tulip charm]

ill come supp first then after chaos gate

[quartz turret]

[queen grail]

Guess the Gearscore

[lean pewter]

1600

[quartz turret]

1620

[queen grail]

[lean pewter]

I knew

because it's mine

[queen grail]

Bad gear, shame on you.

[lean pewter]

jk, I deleted my paladin

because dps pala was shit at carl

[queen grail]

yee, no shit.

They aren't dps.

[lean pewter]

that's your opinion and I respect it

[queen grail]

[dawn yacht]

[viscid sand]

why give sword if sword no do sword things

[tulip charm]

post your leg pack login rewards!

[lean pewter]

this paladin is self aware

[cedar zealot]

Zinnervale

[supple parrot]

beatrice

[delicate sandal]

galatur

[gleaming pendant]

Echinda

[quartz turret]

shandi

[supple parrot]

frog time

[wind dagger]

mfer

I got Wei

He's already full

[tulip charm]

great, my akkan is now finally maxed

[quartz turret]

lol wtf this chaos gate only have 4ppl

[supple parrot]

rosey taking 5 years

[tulip charm]

i am on supp

[supple parrot]

im hungry again

we gotta wait for rosey

[delicate sandal]

welp used a selector on galatur now i got more demon dmg

[supple parrot]

[quartz turret]

im on arti

[tulip charm]

good choice if only 1 away, i need like 6 more galatur for demon, and 1 valtan still

[quartz turret]

chaos gate scales down so its actauly pretty quick

[supple parrot]

join lobby rosey

[tulip charm]

that 1 akkan just gave me .3% human dmg lol

[quartz turret]

[queen grail]

Predator slayer forgot to change pet to swift in Akkan, was wonder why his swift was so low.

[delicate sandal]

just wait for extreme valtan for valtan

[supple parrot]

zheng miss two counters in a row gets swallowed

and says he is sick of this

i thought for sure u gonna counter

cuz its aggro on u

[tulip charm]

i didn't even have counter, the first one i was mid air ult animation and he dive bombed me on the way down

[supple parrot]

u didnt

and i mised dd

rosey go sup

[quartz turret]

sorc no counter

[uneven mortar]

[fresh flint]

[silver hollow]

I find this annoying not funny tho

[tulip charm]

ill come arti

[supple parrot]

i just notice that cheapass rosey

never throws dark

[quartz turret]

i forgot

[queen grail]

Imagine not throwing darks on 🐸

Smh.

[cedar zealot]

Darks cost gold

Time is free

[queen grail]

[dawn yacht]

yeah hoard battle items for lost ark 2 and 3 like pahlev

[supple parrot]

yikes, arti destroyed by gunlancer

[quartz turret]

zheng destroyed by blue gl yikes

[dawn yacht]

[tulip charm]

his +25 weapon

and i used my ult at the end and never got a chair off he just died, and still can't kill him before he burrows

[quartz turret]

if only u have meter

so u can tell what hp its at

[supple parrot]

jjust use ur awakenin earlier

sus

if everyone good dps

u wonteven see flower mech

if u awakened earlier we coulda prob skipped it

[quartz turret]

wheres lobby

[devout fractal]

@dull obsidian quit the game

Send gems

[uneven mortar]

@dull obsidian send gems

[devout fractal]

Send gems , they are better in my hands

You fuking suck ishy

[queen grail]

Hits counter on Sona, casts Spirit bomb instantly, he gets out of stun, tp's away.

Yay

[tulip charm]

@quartz turret ill come sona

[supple parrot]

send me gems instead

[quartz turret]

\

[supple parrot]

dont send to these losers

[tulip charm]

feels like its right on the cusp of him dying before he goes underground, literally all the kills are 3:30-3:40ish, he dies after he comes up in 5seconds

[trail tendon]

https://i.imgur.com/dKeeQiI.png

this game hates me

need 1 azena/shandi/thirain to get los30

and it wont give it to me

[delicate sandal]

just do card runs?

u can get all 3 from it

[supple parrot]

just do more dmg and kill him before it

[quartz turret]

so ez man

[tulip charm]

does Se have above average counter?

you hit all of them

[quartz turret]

it has low cd and push immunity

[supple parrot]

loser rosey only counter when im not there

[quartz turret]

and it pushes u forward

[supple parrot]

afks

when playin with me

[quartz turret]

and a long hit window

[supple parrot]

r u using glutony or rusted nail

[tulip charm]

wtf this class can do everything in the game except stagger???

[supple parrot]

i mean their stagger literally just got buffed

[wind dagger]

[tulip charm]

why is the hones on db hitting, while its not hitting on the alt arti

[uneven mortar]

sh sorc rework soon right

gotta be

[quartz turret]

rusted nail

[keen copper]

se counter is pretty good

2 part and gap closer

[uneven mortar]

feels good man playing real class for once

[quartz turret]

breaker soon

[supple parrot]

disgusting metachasers

be like me

play c tier classes

[uneven mortar]

those classes was s tier 2 years ago

how the turn tables huh

[supple parrot]

ya when we doing t1 and t2? no one cared about it then

[uneven mortar]