#lost-ark-discussions
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thaemine nm is 1610
i cant break out of g3 akkan hm its so hard
Im gonna go for thaemine 1st
thats the ilvl you need to be
noones gatekeeping a 1620 in 1610 content

every lobby makes it too hard they fuck up in g4
1610 -> 1620 is such a stupid increase in dmg its stupid
same, I am saving up leaps
once people 1640 im sure 1620s gonna get gatekept

who in their right mind is doing 1610 content at 1640
tell me you're not dumb
pls, use at least a fragment of ur brain
when there is 1630 content

If I saw a 1640 applying to a 1620 group for thaemine nm
it's just a gatekeep angle
no wonder in kr no one plays hell thae
but i see lotta people 1600+ in akkan nm and even 1580s in brel nm
there is no hell thaemine
theres the first thaemine
how to be stupid without sounding stupid
dont lie, you gonna accept that 1640 faster than you can peel a banana
Because there is no INSANE reward
its a difference of 1000 gold
The reward between Thaemine NM and Thaemine HM is like 20000 gold + better transendence
then you gonna inspect slowly
akkan one is insane in gold tho
oh yeh the dps are braindead
they just don't like g4
@dull obsidian better transcendence? you mena more mats or
someone was selling 20k spots earlier, now its back to 40k 
does ppl actually buy that
yes 
the other lobby with 20k per spot filled
so ig so
@gleaming pendant kinda
holy
i saw many selling for 30k and its filled
its monday, people are desperate
and its filled with proper dps too
ridiculous was people buying clown bus for 10k
22 wep 9/10 gems andies fills it
should charge the gold on entry, then you purposely go trap them
to not clear g1

infinite gold printer
but what if you finish with them, and you get a customer for 100k per spot in thae hm?

ggs
building customer and brand loyalty along the way
"Hey i know a really good support, he premium though"
bam thats how service industry works
Depends how reliably puggable hm is
And how much hands people have
Ishy in your opinion what would be the best raid to test fi dps
and then you just get blocked and noone picks you up and then how do you clear thaemine hm 

I can plausibly see 1630+ do normal after getting at least one hard clear
alot of those really geared people might be a friend group where they have too much money than sense and no one wants to play support
Akkan
what is thaemine hard ilvl req?
if you have a really nice support thats willing to do it for a price, they will prolly pay it
Same with people who pushed 1600 before
idk it depends what you're playing
trust, there are a decent chunk for whale supports
And ended up doing g normal akkan
an average pug support isn't pushing 1630
an average anything isnt pushing to 1630

exactly, legit swiper/busser territory for 1630
how many people are rich, and want to play sup
guess ill have to start bussing
1630 is very hard
I've seen several 1630 supports and people pushing their support to 1630
there is a whale population os supports
exactly
And they’re honing those to 1630 also
^
Lmao dude, they’re rmting millions anyways
One more character is whatever
Especially if it helps support trade within their group
there won't be anyone to charge, cause they'll run in house cause who wants to risk paying for a shitter that will jail and waste time
there's no bussing or carrying a support for thaemine hm
All the 1620+ characters just trade raids and run with each other
That’s the actual support issue you see
The supports exist but are all taken by inhouses
Because why play with pugs lmao

and most of the pug support not in statics are usually the mediocre or shitter supports
That too
i guess when your whole group is maxed out its better to play together
That and you know what to expect from people you regularly play with
You won’t get any brain damage behavior you see in pugs
whales and people with hands naturally flock together towards the endgame
not 1620 
wait hes not?
wdym?
If you are a whale with hands, even better
yea still around 1610-1613

not 1620 

I got my first alt to 1600
not slander if it's true

well dont answer for me then

I’m trying to save money on gold
anyways why did you ask?
While I’m still able to play as many hours
I can cause you're under 1620 

fuck i cant get 12 stars for pure fiction
absolutely disrespectful
Not doing anything else with that time
what is this 
So it’s whatever
in my case im getting beauty sleep
Oh because if you were 1620+ we could rotate mains and bus akkange

i cant be getting wrinkles in my early 30s
Every bit of gold is gold saved for the push to 1640
yikes getting oldge
how much do you make from one bus?
i gotta start a skincare routine soon man
12-20k bus gold + raid gold
oh thats not bad at all


akkan normal gets you like 20-25k per customer
ill let u know when i hit, i just need a few armour taps
and it's not that much slower than a full 1580-1590 nakkan
Will go up when breaker releases
probably within 2 weeks or so
prices gonna go insane on another release
I’m pretty sure with breaker

brel might be like 8k~ per customer again
You can overcharge to like 40k first few days
time to exploit FOTM players
ong
Kaya can probably fetch 25k
bussing kaya is cringe
Heck it fetched 15-18k earlier this week
Brel busses day one of new class are the best though
should be getting payed for bussing htem 
You can sell normal 1-4 for something dumb like 20k
6k on box
i really should
i paid 20k lmfao
for first 1-4
i have no patience
I got carried for free

imagine paying

instead of getting bussed for free by your friends
i paid like 20k for akkan too
maybe i should bus 1-4 on release week

i cant be bothered waiting 2 hours
Then sell busses with the extra characters
when you get older like me, you run out of patience
thats how a grumpy old man come to be

i used to prog vykas hard no healer for 6 hours
back in my prime
friends jail u for hours
now after 2 hours i get headache
my guy, it's been only 2 years
i just dont raid w them anymore 
Honestly
smart
2 very long years
They really should ban public bus ads

thats why i need 25 wep before thaemine
so we can do nm without seeing normal pattern
Just dm chuan
didnt paid for any buses
im doing 1st
just do them
raiding with chuans group require me to take day off
cuz im gigachad
i have nver bought a single bus in this game
how much is thae hm bus?
idek i just do it
Recruitment for the first groups should be funny
yk
its like 1m right?
100% any competent group is going to ask for meter logs
it is
post nerfs? like 50k? maybe higher or lower in kr
with every other classes being broken now
i will be the most mentally prepared support in 1st partyfinder
So, more than double here
shits gonna be like 250k in the west 
my mental strength will never recover after the 40 hours clown prog
Static applications are going to be brutal
i became a jaded old man after clown prog
25 weapon, full 10s, legendary skin, optimal elixirs
Gameplay videos and meter logs

- gg if you're on a shit class

@buoyant wagon i mean if you want to do hardest content thats the absolute minimum
lol
People will bitch about it for sure
sorc insta decline 
Especially if asked to provide logs
but most of the peple at that level have logs anyway
can you iamgine honing to +25 and not using dps meter
Yeah
like you max out your gear to check how far away are you from the peasants
I just want to read reddit when it comes out
My cn friends are jealous that we have a unofficially “tolerated” meter
It's the only thing Im really looking forward to
Meter would never fly in China
if they ban meter, all the whales will quit
the salt with extreme valtan also gonna be delicious
Tencent anticheat would detect it
i would never play this game without meter
can you fuckin imagine playing with bunch of no hands people
and spending 300 hours to clear a raid
Didn't have to imagine in my old guild
4 hrs total
yeah, totally
top dps
i did that on clown, and i almost have mental breakdown
damn that bard looks good
It took you 4 hours to beat akkan in this day and age?

Your group must have been apes
and this is why soo many 1600+ shitters do akkan nm

GL mvp in 8 man is also a red flag
This is also why they’d never reform the gate system
I have
Not just due to bussing
Seen it in an argos card run

But because if everyone with bible saw how bad their teammates were mid raid
bruh
They’d abandon them to the wolves
it's understandable
And so the shitters would never finish a raid
you mean, you never did before?
when a 1620 is not mvping against 1590s
Give me cn aero buff



player is garbo
Jailing yourself in a middle gate is usually not worth
just go to cn bro
its crazy how much sg hating on dps meter, it has so much information you can use to improve yourself
And better to drag 1-2 people to the finish line
its crazy how much sg hating on dps meter, it has so much information you can use to improve yourself
im the best drizzle aero
ah yeah I hate middle gates
But it has just as much if not more information to shit on other players with
than pug now
"improve yourself" xddd
because i dont need gold anymore
I don't even really have a static anymore, we've moved on
And people have limited time
wait
I was indifferent to meter until I saw logs of a person using it in Hard brel
The only times I see it brought up in a constructive way is my hell runs
usually justified
happens when the blinds are removed from your eyes and you see how much certain people are contributing to a raid or not contributing
the answer msot of the time is just play better class really
relative to their gear
like i play gs one time, i do horrible at it, play my heart out to get upright
so id rop gs

Do akkan often enough and the amount of subhuman dps is absolutely insane
nah
People doing below 3m
if you have no hands and are shit
Dark res > evoke > rain > evoke is giga goated
class can't save you
TRUST
zdps
ong
and I don't even play swift arcana
next thing to do is remove mokoko symobols and roster lvl
playing lower floor class usually yields far better dps
no
cause if the person is only hitting the boss 50% of the time
Some people are just so shit it doesn’t matter what they play
doesn't matter what class they are on
Like me fr
ong
True
I was in a kaya earlier this week
bussing should become a lot easier next week with buffs

I have 3cpm on dark res in my arcana runs
It’s on a 12sec cd and I’m supposed to use it off cd
Mid 60% brand
im playing with a guy who did much less damage on his main gs, than his alt glaivier
avg 

his glaivier is 7-9 gems, gs full 10

and glaive is op as hell
gs 20 wep , glaivier 16

@devout fractal glaive mains 

he play his wd, also doing very very well
yeah souleater is way too broken
mizu are you actually
acoustic
its just on gs he suffers

In an equal playing field se is literally the only class that keeps up with glaive
Currently
@urban obsidian not slayer?
After patch is different
or sf
Guess he just disabled on GS
you mean se is the only class that can literally shit all over glaive
its just what it is
they say in kr old scrapper was neck to neck
Slayer and sf get close
before the dec nerf

thats crazy man
SF with hands*
glaivier literal zero to hero
lmao
you fuck up 1 hype and its joever the entire fight
from healing the boss to doing hurtful damage
Yeh?
surge db?
New surge pumps lmao
so you saying
i replace sorc with db?
Yeah
is that what im hearing?
Lmao
@uneven mortar surge is doing 120m+ per second in thaemine hard
what did they get?
1.7% nerf

There’s a reason our hell brel group has 2 surges
60 stack?
Lmao
Must be nice to be a good class and get buffed
You only 60 stack
or can you do 50 stack

has to be 60
anything below 60 is pretty much trolling
60 stack = 120% dmg on surge
59 stack is like 58%
Lmao
when they release wizard
Wizard/Warlock

imagine new reflux rework
There’s a reason our hell brel comp is 2 arcana 2surge se and fiwd
all skill high stagger and destruct
All busted ass classes LMAO
:/
burst damage
Breaker soon
"All busted ass classes LMAO" when performed well
Actually dps check is nonexistent
It’s not there anymore om
Aintnoway
lmfaooo
thats crazy

He’s going
you doing deathless
I mean
i cant imagine doingbrel hm
We’re progging
He said he’s a dolphin
Not a whale 
true
Dolphins are below 10k spent
no mayhem shadow

I’m not SHIT bro


He’s not shit
He's not shit
He’s extremely shit

no addicted to the floor
I’m literally just too lazy to spend 10 hours in clown
He's extremely shit
you don't have a single hell deathless title

Demons Floor 
Addicted to Floor 
Mayhems Floor 
That being said on Wednesday I’ll be spending 5 hours in clown learning db with hetsu before we go into brel
but why do you need deathless title
💀💀
Pussy
still get demon hunter
thats trolling
I’m not tryna do 2mil dps
Theres literally 2 ppl who have never done g5 before
I’m not the one impostering it

how do you find 8 people thats willing to spend 20 hours progging for 0 reward
thats hell mode

I’m curious, how prevalent is meter usage among Kr hell players
They don’t
Brain damage
Use it at all
Because knowing hp for us is such a massive advantage
cause you're playing with other hell raiders
Secret Imposter: Mizu
thats crazy lol, must really like the gameplay
Legalia literally got blacklisted from hell by going back in vods and manually counting a scouters dmg

there's an entire discord dedicated to it 
That's cringe
They can’t use meter in kr
some people just enjoy challenging gameplay for the sake of challenge
In what, Korea?
It’s legalia what do you think
Also
We aren’t progging for 20 hours
It’s more then that xdd
Clearing in 20 hours actually means we’re god gamers
How much do you reckon a pilot is going to cost
Mizu is a god gamer tho
is there still a cooldown for deleting/reusing a name?
Yes
A shit load first month or 2
Yeh smth like that
Cheap enough for setsura
use $30 to instantly get the name
Like 60 days if they’re over lv10 me thinks.
Or was it lv50
I except us to see x110 and MAYBE x50 once day one
I don’t remember.
And clear g5 day 3 or 4
G6 is prolly another week on top of that
So HOPEFULLY we finish in a week and a half to 2 weeks
Hi intak 
im trying to have my bard name go to my new slayer...i would have to still wait even if i use name change coupon?
No
60 days
Nope, those are instant 
Using a name change ticket instantly frees it
Pay money and you can do cool shit
ooooo okok thank u sm!

ban


Wtf martian
CALM DOWN ITS A DONUT
Sadly, the name CalciumCannons was taken.
Gonna actually need to mute this discord no joke
HI @urban obsidian
the patch is here but why do i have a bad feeling about this, like they are gonna fk arti players again
watch after the patch barrage mode skills don't reset again...
So long as I can hear your soothing voice, I’m fine. 
Probably
You’re just gonna hear me talking to discord
But you won’t hear the response bc discord will be muted

man i hope i cant finish my raids stil got 3 brel 1-4 and 1 g4 brel
@urban obsidian where are they why are they cut off
I’ve done two valtans this week 

Go to twitter
Or Reddit
I’m sure they have an abundance
your kidding right...
thye do
I’ve done ivory tower and hm akkan
ive been in 2 jails this week was brutal....
you got me beat, only 1 jail this reset, still, thats pretty smooth all things considered
i thought in wrong server
2 jails isn't bad lol
it had to be the worst ones ivory g4 hm and g3 hm akkan....
prob not, there is supp shortage for akkan normal
but not for akkan hm lol

the former is easy to escape, the later is hell... (well, sometimes)
I’ve seen garbage supports get denied from normal
If anything, because garbage gear = likely garbage player
1600+ is when you start gatekeeping the elcheapo supps tbh
1580 content is whatever
I only do Kaya when I have a full group and akkan nm I only do when I have a pretty much full group
If you’re in 4x3 level 5s at 1580
You’re getting gatekept
It’s not that expensive to make a 5x3 with level 7s
Also fuck rewarding that level of cheapness
Wel yeh
5x3 is what I consider normal requirements
1600+ is when you’d start gatekeeping good gems n shit
it's not a shortage for hm cause there are more supports that want to do hm than dps
my pally died to first shape brel
No diff that’ll be me in 2 days
Good dps can do hm with mediocre supports
Same can’t be said for the other way around
Which is why all the 1600+ go do normal

@obtuse oyster how many 1580 bards do you have?
2 1580s, 1 1600
yep
and it just excerbate the 1580 support shortage
since 1600 supports will try to get into hm groups before going back to join a nm group
Oh it's this person
it is your time 
you know them?
im already jailed in g4 
Not really but seen them around and they used to play recurrence artist
Jailed in PF for 4 hours first


$300 for a deathbox skin 
Do you get it for the low low
icant
It’s only the beginning
Ai girlfriend will be top dollar
Unless those solar storms get us 
not if that country over there does it first
they still havent filled 
your prices too high
you gotta cut it
I bet OT is a cool dude
they took a sorc very brave
what are these food names lol

but idk if this gives me false hope or not
since i don't even have a 1620 yet, but idk if there is enough rogue hardmode supports out there yet
why ppl not accepting my sorc ;-;
because its a sorc
but if u want a full explanation, post ur char sheet/gems, cards, roster level

i even heard that u cant enhance those anymore cuz the game tells u to exchange it when its +15
it's just not efficent to hone valtan gear past 15
has anyone gotten the "hunting" quest from voldis?
also 1490 land is kinda smoge/gatekeep city when you're on ilvl
I've done a ton and haven't seen it
also, if ur going for +16 on relic, that tells me your pretty new/ uniformed so ur roster is prob low, bad cards, bad gems
1490 expressed char prob
she is from over a year cuz i just came back
yeah
yep
lf dps = lf gl/dest
just rng to get it
all the reasons i listed above
real
u need to do brel
yeah, not a surprise she's getting gatekept
there is everything wrong about that sorc
that was good when i used to play
just heard thunder, and it was so weird that, the rumbling also vibrated throughout the entire house.
are we getting akkan kayangel mats update
that is awful by todays standards
5x3 is the standard for 1490 and most expect lvl7s gems on dps at this point in time
Use express
You were free
But have decided to go back to jail
you came back, and you play sorc
Wait its not too late
2 L's right there
To reroll to a real class like SE
i already did on an artist
oh my lvl 7 gems are so expensive

theyre really not
your idea of gold and gold generation is just from when u first played

Back then she got more money from raids


the preset literally every mage used
its cute :3
I've been sleeping all day
all i know is that the brelshaza is 6k gold with g1 to 3 which is the most gold
its not the most gold 
ivory tower

+120k if your a hard mode sup
thats alot of gold :3
i mean brel hm 1-4 is still a lot of gold
i have 2 bards and a sorc and my highest is artist so far
that's assuming they clear hm1-4 let alone 4
maybe i just be 5 sup 1 dps :3
Nah
oh nvm 1 bard not 2
easier time on support getting into raid but youre doomed if you get jailed by shitters
forgot that i deleted one of them
i can tell ;-;
ngl im surprised you even cleared g1
Its ok it gotnerfed a million times

supports cant charge for that much
most ive heard someone make was 70k + guranteed elixirs week one
imagine using throne and liberty emotes in here
when he charged his support services
i mean g1 g2 is really easy
it is, but the fact you got into a party is the more surprising part

we are in NAE
that was the highest i have ever heard someone make charging support services
get fucked
Bit of that in Aus atm too

wtf is this?
okay at least im not as jailed as this guy 
think fixing the sorc gear wont be expesnive
weather radar
I wanna see the sup shortage in china
oh rain meter

ye australia is getting fucked with rain too
Oh man they gonna pay so much

jailed in 2, his week is done
Yes, it's storming here rn, the thunder shakes the whole house 
Woke me up



thank god my party cleared g2
wanna trade
man it rarely gets heavy rain here
i know one way




why is that an emote 

i wish my area had more rain but im happy with 60s
Eu favorites

im gonna enjoy this -10f
What in the fuсk?
It’s normal
thats you and 2b2t

O m
rip 1-4 hm deathless
my 2-16 ksante support i played with the other day 
I wonder when na and eu league players will take the game serious like in kr and cn
And stop with the suicide picks
it was ranked too, joever
I got my diamond for the season 

Fornite gamer
master next season shorely 
why is that rank cherish some people i still dont have idea
shorely 
Yes
i like playing for rank in league, valorant is actually a game i compete in 
why do anything in life?
i have hundreds of .01$ after they update cs2 i make like, enough steam fund
I’ll just sell the stuff to gamble on crash or something
Cancer rocket league removed trading
So now I’m stuck with white octanes
what do people mean when they say this 
its a valtan player so maybe cn 
actually now that i look at it, my entire party is from valtan except me 
indonesian word for "toilet"
or "bathroom"
englishman say "restroom"
yeah
correct, but since indo were colonized by dutch wc means somewhat similar
washctafelchtung or something idrmb
It just means they are going to toilet 
i thought that meant Wild Card games
hammer without wedge is meh
lock to good ones first ofc
isnt cool headed kinda meh
i need more books for lv4 stone
Hammer alone is good, wedge without hammer is meh
HATE awam 
Good luck on the 4th mod
areu going the 4 gem build for arti?
I’ll test it myself once it happens, and I’ll use the community guide as a reference but I might deviate a little
What do you mean? I thought. You. Tell me people buying gold in lost ark? No. Say it ain’t so 
hmm time to unlock my sorcs gems
All I know atm is I am dropping air raid and adding in napalm and most likely will run heat seeking bullet
Sorc in the bin 
people never complained about this for a whole year till now, wondering why
some free gems for my se
That's a classic one. So many sneaky sorcs thinking they're smart
my sorc is so far ahead of my other characters that i can't swap on my main roster



















time to play support and get free carry in loa



