His back is safe and if a dps can't position right that's on them
#lost-ark-discussions
obtuse oyster
still lintel
ppl standing infront of akkan 
quartz turret
then they shouldnt stand on those
wind dagger
dusk storm
no they should stand in them
quartz turret
might aswell just bring counter instead
urban obsidian
2-3 is incredibly easy to stay on his back lmao
obtuse oyster
nah g2
prime wind
Dr fell out of favour @sand marsh because ppl get gauge now
You grief raids like thaemine
urban obsidian
Literally just dr lantern lmao
prime wind
Used to be u could Dr and tank
obtuse oyster
Just dr lantern
I thought it was done, and then ran wide trying to stay in the shadow
cursive ruin
This guy again
quartz turret
petition for 1 brand 
cursive ruin
wait did I get shadow pung
urban obsidian
I thought it was done, and then ran wide trying to stay in the shadow
I did that in my hm run with ishy last week
Thoguht it was done and ran out
When gauge is a thing that can make or break a raid
You can’t freely tank stuff
still lintel
check your dm to see how fucking dumb you are 🤓
obtuse oyster
both are g3
urban obsidian
Dr is pretty bad now 
And that’s a fact
Gauge is a big killer
Dr doesn’t get rid of gauge gain
urban obsidian
Bc pally doesn’t need more meter gain?
quartz turret
and u gotta sacrifice utility for dr
tulip charm
Yep, but it’s also good training for players that always spam their spacebar, you have to save it
obtuse oyster
DR is subject to raid and party. Idk if it's a flex slot for pally as it is for bard and artist
urban obsidian
DR is subject to raid and party. Idk if it's a flex slot for pally as it is for ...
I unironically basically never swap to starry
It just shits on meter gen so hard
obtuse oyster
which is why bard has a higher ceiling
and my previous point, the average bard is a shitter
urban obsidian
That doesn’t change the fact that when meter gen is just as bad as takin damage that Dr is pretty much useless
You can tell the difference between an average support and a good support
I'm rich.
obtuse oyster
this chat man
uncut dirge
but bard always has to give something up
tulip charm
It becomes the worst supp after jan update I think
uncut dirge
the engravings on her are kind of a mess
she can't bring good counter, stagger and destro at the same time like pala can
she can't on demand shield at range either
silver hollow
this 'ceiling' is a few extra % at best
quartz turret
cuz artist and pally got lots qol 
tulip charm
The other 2 supp got buffed, bard didn’t change
uncut dirge
also no cleanse can be quite painful
urban obsidian
Bard is a fine counter lol
uncut dirge
the debuff blocking can be useful but cleanse would be better
urban obsidian
also no cleanse can be quite painful
Just use battle items
obtuse oyster
YOU ONLY NEED CLEASNE FOR 1 FUCKING GATE
urban obsidian
quartz turret
bard counter is not fine
uncut dirge
err
quartz turret
no immunnity
uncut dirge
1 gate of currently relevant content
obtuse oyster
G2 Kaya and g1 akkan
chams
uncut dirge
but clown was the same
obtuse oyster
charms
urban obsidian
I know
silver hollow
I use pancea in both bc I don’t trust supports
uncut dirge
also we literally take a cleanse potion basically to G3 on everyone
stoic gull
same for artist execpt it stacks
uncut dirge
support having a pocket cleanse is pretty helpful
urban obsidian
You don’t need one though
quartz turret
its good to have one
urban obsidian
Any gate needs a cleanse you literally just run your own
obtuse oyster
support having a pocket cleanse is pretty helpful
Name a situation outside of g1 akkan and g2 kaya, that a cleanse is needed
urban obsidian
And problem solved
urban obsidian
Name a situation outside of g1 akkan and g2 kaya, that a cleanse is needed
Clown!!!
uncut dirge
Name a situation outside of g1 akkan and g2 kaya, that a cleanse is needed
clown fire, gate 3 akkan for stuns, g2 akkan for stuns
tulip charm
I use pancea in both bc I don’t trust supports
I’ve never deviated from flame/Pena/paper, and purify. But players will always bring atro paper and fail stagger multiple times
urban obsidian
He actually said clown
obtuse oyster
clown fire, gate 3 akkan for stuns, g2 akkan for stuns
You support gets stunned, no cleanse
quartz turret
Name a situation outside of g1 akkan and g2 kaya, that a cleanse is needed
sona
stoic gull
clown was such a pain during learning when people were staking flames like no tomorrow
urban obsidian
I’ve never deviated from flame/Pena/paper, and purify. But players will always b...
Yeh
obtuse oyster
<:shruge:1100304847183560726> sona
purify
urban obsidian
I run pana in g2 Kaya and g1 akkan no matter what
quartz turret
fuck that
urban obsidian
Sona mechs are easy to sodge
uncut dirge
it's still something extra that suppor tprovides
queen grail
@silver hollow 
now you wanted to go, we can go one more after If you need.
obtuse oyster
quartz turret
so fucking inconventient to put on purify for guardians
silver hollow
<@696430996412825701> <a:MadgeClap:988539520599351296> now you wanted to go, we ...
that was 2 hrs ago
urban obsidian
so fucking inconventient to put on purify for guardians
Then literally just look away when ur supposed to?
Lmao
queen grail
that was 2 hrs ago
That was 30min ago 
I was afk
obtuse oyster
Then literally just look away when ur supposed to?
that's too hard appearently
quartz turret
Then literally just look away when ur supposed to?
yikes thats dps lost
silver hollow
i dont need anyways 
empty sleet
Why people acting like bard isn’t the bottom support
silver hollow
@queen grail come g4 normal
still lintel
so fucking inconventient to put on purify for guardians
imagine not having it on all the time 
uncut dirge
pala also has DR on his atk buff
quartz turret
or just bring any other supports and enjoy
uncut dirge
and his identity
urban obsidian
Why people acting like bard isn’t the bottom support
Bc they all have something they’re better at lol
quartz turret
quartz turret
instead having to play around ur support having no utilities
obtuse oyster
instead having to play around ur support having no utilities
yet a parties have to play around dps lack of utilities or supports have to make up for it
stop the dent
urban obsidian
So true no cleanse = unplayable party = gatekeep bards in all content
quartz turret
thats what supports are for
silver hollow
got 
uncut dirge
paladin used to shield only the party member syou hit with awakening way back
urban obsidian
Starry is actually useable, cleanse is an even better cleanse, and sunwell is huge
empty sleet
No support shortage btw
dark raft
queen grail
<@217042711847501827> come g4 normal
Brel?
summer knoll
bring back good ol abyss dungeaons
queen grail
I'm in raid.
quartz turret
time to sell my bard for ivory hm 
dark raft
im fixing the shortage
still lintel
should have gone full support union and make real bank
dark raft
im so serious
queen grail
🐍
obtuse oyster
<a:snake:1019292003655221288>
I thought that was something else for a sec
summer knoll
quartz turret
cant believe imma be 1620 bounds only
dark raft
@fallen parcel pls com back
silver hollow
I thought that was something else for a sec
empty sleet
cant believe imma be 1620 bounds only
Chuan alt
silver hollow
dirty minded icee caught in 4k
obtuse oyster
the shield is given on skill-use instead of someone taking the portal
urban obsidian
Currently it only gives a shield when someone takes it
But now it’s an aoe shield on placement
still lintel
https://tenor.com/view/snake-wrap-command-gif-22656218
quartz turret
like huge
stoic gull
the portal now has a spalsh shield on spawn. so now we have 3 shield skill, sprinkle, hopper and mirror(teleport)
still lintel
the portal now has a spalsh shield on spawn. so now we have 3 shield skill, spri...
oh rly?
its with the balance patch coming in jan?
uncut dirge
ultimately it doesn't matter though
stoic gull
yea. that was with the november balance patch
empty sleet
Artist overloaded
stoic gull
we are getting it in january
uncut dirge
supports are in such shortage that you can have the same build you progged normal brel on
and you'll find parties
empty sleet
Promise?
quartz turret
bard shields still kinda shit
uncut dirge
bard shields still kinda shit
rakathus blood:
obtuse oyster
bard shields still kinda shit
?
uncut dirge
paladin perma shields
artist perma sprinkles
bard gives you DR with GT
dark raft
obtuse oyster
paladin perma shields
artist perma sprinkles
bard gives you DR with GT
You can run the shield spam setup for GT
quartz turret
uncut dirge
You can run the shield spam setup for GT
does that tripod actually help anything
other than in basically that one situation
obtuse oyster
other than in basically that one situation
gives you 100% uptime on shielding
uncut dirge
doesn't it halve shield duration?
cause i remember trying it
and it definitely didn't seem useful
quartz turret
what that tripod even does
uncut dirge
huge mana cost and short buffs
stoic gull
doesn't it halve shield duration?
you get the shield after the skill is done so the 50% reduction doesnt affect it
uncut dirge
<:monkaHmm:852993226285776897> what that tripod even does
-50% to duration and cooldown or something liket hat
ohhh @stoic gull i guess that would work ye
obtuse oyster
<:monkaHmm:852993226285776897> what that tripod even does
you run these two
dark raft
gives you 100% uptime on shielding
these guys have ptsd from the most dog bards ever lool otherwise it feels like they dont know what they are talking about or have poorly geared bards..
stoic gull
its basically a dr skill, but once that is done it shields. the dr gets half but not the shield
obtuse oyster
these guys have ptsd from the most dog bards ever lool otherwise it feels like t...
It's a lost cause, they play with shitter bards and cry that bard sucks
or they are shitter bards and cry bard sucks
dark raft
It's a lost cause, they play with shitter bards and cry that bard sucks
dude im glad they arent in our raids thats for sure
urban obsidian
It's a lost cause, they play with shitter bards and cry that bard sucks
Obviously the guy with 5 1580 bards has no clue what he’s talking about
queen grail
Most supports sadly suck in this game.
urban obsidian
uncut dirge
because bard has to be uNiQUe aNd qUIrKy
i've run with a really good bard for a long time but
you need like 15 different skill builds to do stuff
obtuse oyster
Obviously the guy with 5 1580 bards has no clue what he’s talking about
Like only QoL I want is single branding (personal reasons cause I wanna be meter gen goblin) or lowering the overall mana cost or make to it's not pain to play with more than 1 hit master class
uncut dirge
you don't just have your stagger, destruction and everything else
stoic gull
wind dagger
obtuse oyster
you don't just have your stagger, destruction and everything else
?
urban obsidian
Like only QoL I want is single branding (personal reasons cause I wanna be meter...
They should give rhaps what they gave sunwell fr
obtuse oyster
please stop talking out your ass
dark raft
or they are shitter bards and cry bard sucks
THIS is what i think exactly. they dont look into a guide or how to play the class think bard is ez cuz what pally has insta casting shit and faster uptime? idk lust boy taught me how to play bard and i dont get complaints in my raids
obtuse oyster
Double brand is also cringe asf
I have the gap that happens
obtuse oyster
cause harp fucking slow af with firing and it only last 2 secs
uncut dirge
Agile Defense tripod cuts shield duration in half
obtuse oyster
oh the boss decided to teleport before harp applied it tick
urban obsidian
I have the gap that happens
1750 swift and lvl 7 gem has 100% brand uptime with orchids
obtuse oyster
enjoy that gap of no branding
cedar zealot
<:bedge:1046750404253339699> 1750 swift and lvl 7 gem has 100% brand uptime with...
deez
dark raft
youre suppose to cast heavenly then harp
stoic gull
i wish bard skills werent seperated for no reasons. the other supports have a few of what we have in 1 skill instead of 2 like bard does
obtuse oyster
youre suppose to cast heavenly then harp
I wish harp fired faster
quartz turret
i mean bard just have too much inconvenient compared to other sups
obtuse oyster
fking slow ass projectile
dark raft
i wish they made bard booba bigger
obtuse oyster
i mean bard just have too much inconvenient compared to other sups <:shruge:1100...
it doesn't
urban obsidian
Also
dark raft
remodel her pls
obtuse oyster
bard is the most flexible support
uncut dirge
its basically a dr skill, but once that is done it shields. the dr gets half but...
yeah, doesn't work that way
shield gets halved in duration too
i just tried it
quartz turret
other sups just more well rounded
obtuse oyster
which puts more on the pilot to determine whats best needed
uncut dirge
so the tripod doesn't really do anything
urban obsidian
In the raids where a cleanse is “required” ur inting if you don’t run purify anyways lol
uncut dirge
just makes the shield pop up a little earlier
urban obsidian
Bard not having a cleanse literally means nothing
uncut dirge
but now you have to cast the skill twice as often
wintry depot
bard is the most flexible support
but other builds outside meter gen goblin feels like shit
stoic gull
yeah, doesn't work that way
urban obsidian
You run purify and sacred and pancea anyways
obtuse oyster
but other builds outside meter gen goblin feels like shit
that's cause you're a meter goblin
obtuse oyster
the only one that feels shit is SS + VPH + buck
obtuse oyster
you lose double branding and meter gen
urban obsidian
its suppose to be my job <:ChaewonAngry:972640237266296883>
Ur cringe
quartz turret
u need to change ur build specifically just to do what other sups can already do with their base kit
wintry depot
no u
urban obsidian
obtuse oyster
u need to change ur build specifically just to do what other sups can already do...
that's the fun of bard
dark raft
maaannn i just hit crit on my sh feast for 1800wa
obtuse oyster
play artist if don't want to deal with it
wintry depot
i dont find it fun having 10 pages of skills
wintry depot
if artist was from the beginning, i wouldve never done bards
obtuse oyster
i dont find it fun having 10 pages of skills
I enjoy having flexiblity in a game where everything is just cookie cutter
quartz turret
u can call it fun but its just a disadvantage
obtuse oyster
u can call it fun but its just a disadvantage <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
it's not though
dark raft
if artist was from the beginning, i wouldve never done bards
ong same
BUT it is what it is
urban obsidian
I enjoy having flexiblity in a game where everything is just cookie cutter
Wdym you don’t like playing 1 build just like every other player in the game?
wintry depot
when bard rework
urban obsidian
It’s so fun!
fallen parcel
<@143962031953936384> pls com back
wintry depot
just remove the double branding and the mana issues and ill be happy again
obtuse oyster
Simply you're lazy and don't want to have to use more brain power
stoic gull
well thats why i enjoy artist more. i get to have fun and still be able to do my job correctly
uncut dirge
i don't know if i'd call it flexibility though
uncut dirge
if you focus on stagger it's not like you're outstaggering paladin
obtuse oyster
i don't know if i'd call it flexibility though
You can opt for dr, meter gen, stagger, additional / focused counter skill, high stagger if it is really needed
uncut dirge
yeah, but is it really flexibility if you're still worse at the thing you're changing your build for
urban obsidian
No shit?
hidden jay
ye but paladin sucks because male
Damn I kinda like you now
urban obsidian
Icee literally said that bro
stoic gull
ye but paladin sucks because male
obtuse oyster
Pally downside is lack of flexibility in his identity
wind dagger
obtuse oyster
it's either up or down, and you can't store up more while it's going
quartz turret
its just a fact that if u need to put more effort into doing something others can already do, ur at a disadvantage
obtuse oyster
No, it's a downside to pally
wind dagger
Abusing push immunity in Brel 
urban obsidian
Nothing ur talking about makes or breaks a raid
hidden jay
In the end of the day yall spending 5 hours in party finder waiting for a supp
obtuse oyster
Bard and Artist can build meter while they used identity
urban obsidian
Bard and Artist can build meter while they used identity
i love my 30 seconds of moon fall uptime at the start of a raid
And if I giga pump I can even get 40
obtuse oyster
not really
bard has two downsides
if we want to be honest
forced into max mp and double branding
outside of that
it's just different flavors for what a support offers
urban obsidian
Stimmy > moonfall > meter Gen > moon fall > awakening > moonfall > stimmy > moonfall > meter Gen > moonfall
dusk storm
what about range shielding?
urban obsidian
I can actually get 50 seconds uninterrupted
obtuse oyster
1 is
urban obsidian
obtuse oyster
you can mitigate mana issue with mana food
obtuse oyster
max mp3 + food = never oomed
urban obsidian
Bc efficiency is worse than max
obtuse oyster
Mana gen scales with your max mp
wind dagger
Regen
obtuse oyster
So mp efficency just ends up be worse than max mp
the best one would be magick stream but that requires you to be a good player
urban obsidian
So mp efficency just ends up be worse than max mp
Max mp + Magick stream + mana food
quartz turret
ur biggest stagger skill literally only does stagger
uncut dirge
quartz turret
and takes years to cast
wind dagger
Why does this exist
obtuse oyster
ur biggest stagger skill literally only does stagger
You don't need SH unless your party is shit stagger
urban obsidian
Because bard and artist are significantly harder to keep ms uptime
obtuse oyster
SS + SV with VPH is fine
quartz turret
its good to have more stagger
obtuse oyster
its good to have more stagger
Okay, the point you're making is mute
urban obsidian
Pally, while being a literal knight with a sword, is the easiest to stay farthest away from the boss
uncut dirge
Why does this exist
i think we got it in some event long ago
wind dagger
quartz turret
sonic vibration still shit on hit master classes
obtuse oyster
sonic vibration still shit on hit master classes
it is what it is
urban obsidian
Artist you need to basically be perma ontop of the boss
obtuse oyster
if you want 100% ap buff uptime on hitmaster, that what pally is for
urban obsidian
Bard im not entirely sure
wind dagger
@sand marsh aren't you mixing it up?
obtuse oyster
Bard is best with melee and close ranged dps
And Artist buff doesn't change that for Artist
urban obsidian
if you want 100% ap buff uptime on hitmaster, that what pally is for
If you want 100% uptime on hitmaster class you literally just look where the buff is and walk to it
stoic gull
isnt hopper and counter then only thing that needs artist to be on boss?
urban obsidian
Complaining about which support you have is dumb
obtuse oyster
If you want 100% uptime on hitmaster class you literally just look where the buf...
yeah, but that requires for hitmaster players to activate some neurons and walk into buff circles
urban obsidian
Yep too hard
ancient tundra
Complaining about which support you have is dumb
Complain about deez
uncut dirge
imagine slayer model support
wind dagger
Me no issues with that
dim lark
when will they release female paladin
female gunlancer first
urban obsidian
Walking on artists path doesn’t do anything
Most artists don’t run the mspd tripod bc it’s useless
You run the range extending one
wind dagger
Walking on artists path doesn’t do anything
Not talking about speed buff tho
obtuse oyster
Most artists don’t run the mspd tripod bc it’s useless
my arcana be enjoying that mspd tripod 
stoic gull
i run the movespeed one. u just need to have better aim so u dont miss. its ez
uncut dirge
bard does have one pretty useful advantage: bard's big dmage reduction skill is something players can walk into after it's been cast
for paladin you have to get hit byt he initial cast to get the DR
wind dagger
quartz turret
what ppl even drop for vph on bard?
quartz turret
and u just accept that ur oom?
quartz turret
stoic gull
my previous 5x3 build had it switchable between vph and ether drops. just wquip the book of whichever i want
wind dagger
Mines had too
queen grail
@silver hollow @ancient tundra Any of you need a hard kaya?
stoic gull
i have that on my artist too
not sure why I do that but it's an option
quartz turret
bard 200k hp when
stoic gull
i used to run double counter but im too lazy and havent memorized the counter timing so its useless on me. i removed it. i still have it setup though for when im in a party that cant counter. but luckily that hasnt happened yet so it 'll stay benched
still lintel
not looking forward to changing my counter from instant hit to the changed one
uncut dirge
have you guys noticed that paladin has a lot more spec scaling for the buff than artist and bard
azure valley
what ppl even drop for vph on bard?
Expert
stoic gull
does artist have any spec scaling?
uncut dirge
yes
quartz turret
oh shit
uncut dirge
it's still worse than bard
and you can't lose swiftness
because you can't rotate your atk power buffs
on bard you can still rotate them somewhat
quartz turret
but kinda scuffed with cursed doll classes
uncut dirge
if it works the way ie xpect it to:
at 600 spec
bard's 15% attack buff turns to 19.5%
bard's 10% attack buff turns to 13%
paladin's 10% attack buff turns to 15.4%
artist's 10% attack buff turns to 13.2%
quartz turret
its like 10 pity
quiet igloo
uncut dirge
paladin spec doesn't increase heal though
but bard and artist heald oes increase from spec
quartz turret
soon fr
uncut dirge
but yeah it's because paladin atk buff cds are longer
quiet igloo
High lvl bards are cool ngl
uncut dirge
and without swift you can't rotate them at all basically
also bard has another advantage in that she gets an attack speed buff on heavenly tune
queen grail
https://youtu.be/GbOCbt-CL60?si=V2J6g9xhuh9qfe53 
@silver hollow @obtuse oyster
quiet igloo
uncut dirge
bard gives +16% attack speed for 8 seconds
quartz turret
its 8 tho
uncut dirge
does tough tune add to it
obtuse oyster
8% from tripod
obtuse oyster
yes
uncut dirge
cause all it says is "atk. speed +8%"
obtuse oyster
I've only seen like 1 bard so far not run it
obtuse oyster
yes
quartz turret
oh ye it is 8
uncut dirge
on sorc i do notice it
quartz turret
i barely notice it tbh
obtuse oyster
@sand marsh this is also the makes ht insanely good
queen grail
@silver hollow
uncut dirge
look
queen grail
🐍
uncut dirge
the real bard ceiling is to go full spec
obtuse oyster
the real bard ceiling is to go full spec
no
quartz turret
<@429948941581418496> this is also the makes ht insanely good
is it worth to drop atk spd tho
quartz turret
not female
stoic gull
i mean its the default tripod build in the bard guides so im guessing they all run it
obtuse oyster
is it worth to drop atk spd tho
It depends on classes, but the 8% loss is not that terribly noticeable. I ran it for a bit, but I haven't see too much in a dmg taken difference. I know it's the preferred tripod for thaemine.
uncut dirge
bard's awakening also has a similar efefct
obtuse oyster
cause pally is legitamately a boring class to play no matter how good he is
and bard was here longer than artist so more bard players than artist
stoic gull
highest population is bard, then artist right after. in KR at least
soul eater took #3 spot real fast though
prime wind
Soul eater is where all the sorcs went that's why
stoic gull
quartz turret
breaker
stoic gull
these are 1579-1655 stats
and as usual soulfist is dead last. least populated character
uncut dirge
these are 1579-1655 stats
does it change at 1610+?
uncut dirge
gunslinger so popular, wow
queen grail
Sexy class.
wind dagger
Coomers
obtuse oyster
Coomers fr
wind dagger
stoic gull
the dead last classes(1610+)
stuck gazelle
What is your #1 Class?
uncut dirge
arcana is so popular, wow
wind dagger
Quite sad
stoic gull
arcana was one of the few class i really liked playing but i was on the floor for way too much so i deleted it
uncut dirge
high ceiling class with a low floor
do the koreans even know tho
since they don't bible
stoic gull
i didnt like seeing fighter. so i made a bunch of classes that only see fighter 
prime wind
Arcana is good cause it rewards sweat better than other classes
obtuse oyster
do the koreans even know tho
they don't need bible, to tell that they can't perform on a class
stoic gull
do the koreans even know tho
they do. just maybe not the average players. those guys go into extreme indepth numbers when they do class testing
even more then bible
obtuse oyster
Arcana is good cause it rewards sweat better than other classes
always buffed, never nerfed 
stoic gull
they even have the damage formula for each class skill and shit. from what i saw on one of the reports
uncut dirge
yeah but arcana aint on it
uncut dirge
i guess arcana is strong in trixion
prime wind
With shitty builds
uncut dirge
maybe that explains why emperor has this high reputation
obtuse oyster
With shitty builds
You're telling me my trixion only build won't pull 100mil dps in an actual raid 
dusk storm
or it could be the class is actually good
prime wind
A lot of Korean will take worse builds with higher ceiling dmg
Even if it feels 20% worse
Or not usable in faster raids
uncut dirge
well, deathblades should be mor epopular then
dusk storm
prime wind
DB is expensive
uncut dirge
but it has a ceiling as high as the moon
obtuse oyster
The community is dog water
stuck gazelle
Lets say you did have hands
uncut dirge
`??? what are you even talking about
stuck gazelle
does Arcanist still out dps easier classes?
obtuse oyster
all these strange issues he's running into
Might just be an aerroon issue tbh
uncut dirge
we're talking about what's popular in korea
uncut dirge
does Arcanist still out dps easier classes?
slayer? no
prime wind
No it's true all Eu arcana are bad
prime wind
Aerroon is right
wind dagger
obtuse oyster
does Arcanist still out dps easier classes?
3 steps, do you have hands, is your arcana geared to get the proper performance, do you have hands
if you answered no to any 1 of these 3
no
stuck gazelle
3 steps, do you have hands, is your arcana geared to get the proper performance,...
If you answer all 3?
prime wind
I have the strongest arcana lopang in nae trust
uncut dirge
i mean arcana's getting a pretty significant buff
so smilegate at least thinks something's wrong
dusk storm
they buffed slayer they don't know whats wrong or right
obtuse oyster
If you answer all 3?
Then you'll beat a majority of classes when playing well, assuming you don't get sup gapped
uncut dirge
Then you'll beat a majority of classes when playing well, assuming you don't get...
doubt
uncut dirge
majorit of players sure, but equal player on other classes i doubt
uncut dirge
Just because you don't have hands, doesn't means the class can't
i'll believe it when i actually see it
so far all the arcanas i've seen are middling or low
dusk storm
how are u gonna see it u keep trying to join lobbies on a jumpstart char
it doesn't but people go with the flow
if something gets nerfed a little bit they swap
prime wind
R u ool
obtuse oyster
how are u gonna see it u keep trying to join lobbies on a jumpstart char
especially when the good players run raids inhouse and rarely pug. And if they do pug, it's with other eqaully geared players
queen grail
Didn't even crit a bomb 
dusk storm
ppl play it lmao
uncut dirge
and the reason you don't see arcanas perform well even when you do see them
supple parrot
Washed up
obtuse oyster
arcana is actually super strong, but nobody plays it
No, the average pug is a crapshoot on skill
uncut dirge
is because somehow all the good arcanas only play in statics
obtuse oyster
And good players rarely pug, cause they have statics that they run all their raids on
supple parrot
Wut u do with ur 16 hours per day
prime wind
Every arcana is juiced up the ass they have hm sups on standby
supple parrot
prime wind
U aren't in the same lobbies
uncut dirge
wouldn't the exact same thing apply to ... all the other classes?
supple parrot
dusk storm
remember at the start of the game all you saw were screenshots on reddit of people beating pugs with underperforming classes
wind dagger
Every arcana is juiced up the ass they have hm sups on standby
Huge whales
obtuse oyster
U aren't in the same lobbies
no,no,no,no Justin trust. My 1600 dps will get into the party with the 1630 arcana
queen grail
Spoken like a true weeb
uncut dirge
if all the good arcanas only ply statics, then wouldn't all the good sharpshooters also only play statics?
supple parrot
Most Akkan lobbies now are 1610+
dusk storm
stoic gull
i remember people posting MVP screens of choas dungeons lol
prime wind
no,no,no,no Justin trust. My 1600 dps will get into the party with the 1630 arca...
This 1600 spec arcana does so little DMG
supple parrot
All the pug sharpshooters are trash man. Had a 1610 full 10 one do 5 mil dps in g2 akkan. And dude said he “forgot to being counter” at the end
uncut dirge
i've seen some sharpshooters that pumped
supple parrot
Dude cos playing a sorc as ss
uncut dirge
All the pug sharpshooters are trash man. Had a 1610 full 10 one do 5 mil dps in ...
what
dusk storm
every class can pump
obtuse oyster
All the pug sharpshooters are trash man. Had a 1610 full 10 one do 5 mil dps in ...
LMAO
wind dagger
Rip beez
uncut dirge
doesn't sharpshooter take counter by default in their build?
don't they use it to generate meter?
supple parrot
doesn't sharpshooter take counter by default in their build?
I have no clue
I was confused
uncut dirge
well, death strike does
wind dagger
How the fuck do you do 5m dps with they class
uncut dirge
idk about loyal companion
stuck gazelle
Id love to crack out an Arcanist and get hands
obtuse oyster
every class can pump
But aerron hasn't seen an arcana pump, so the class must suck and not do dmg
supple parrot
Dude cosplaying a sorc
stuck gazelle
Just a lot of investment for maybe a payout?
tulip charm
All the pug sharpshooters are trash man. Had a 1610 full 10 one do 5 mil dps in ...
but stoopz is op and he beat a 1630 re db in his voldi hm vid
dusk storm
this no counter thing getting out of hand
obtuse oyster
but stoopz is op and he beat a 1630 re db in his voldi hm vid
re db
empty sleet
My chaos build doesn’t have counter either
obtuse oyster
also the db is honed
supple parrot
but stoopz is op and he beat a 1630 re db in his voldi hm vid
Stoopz is 25 weapon full 10s isn’t he
obtuse oyster
put some repsect on my boi 
prime wind
Datmodz clears stoopz
tulip charm
also the db is honed
yea i saw him in lfg discord i said hi
brazen smelt
The db did run the wrong card set
uncut dirge
But aerron hasn't seen an arcana pump, so the class must suck and not do dmg
well, i play an arcana so i pay attention to them
obtuse oyster
well, i play an arcana so i pay attention to them
yeah, but I'm gonna be frank
uncut dirge
and from my experience arcana just isn't that great
dusk storm
what exp
obtuse oyster
you full under the not good category for arcana players
dusk storm
LOL
uncut dirge
and you know this because we've played together?
low nebula
plz
supple parrot
Arcana can pump. Didn’t some arcana do 36 mil dps on sonavel when stoopz did that 1v1 tourney before
obtuse oyster
and you know this because we've played together?
The shit you type
dusk storm
double fail
uncut dirge
uhuh
low nebula
double fail
done.
uncut dirge
and you know arcana's so super good because divine providence?
prime wind
U already know when he doesn't know the half cd gt tripod
obtuse oyster
and you know arcana's so super good because divine providence?
Ishy has one in his static
prime wind
That he doesn't understand his classes
low nebula
is this "5%" chance which calculator says is real?
uncut dirge
is this "5%" chance which calculator says is real?
yes
stuck gazelle
and you know arcana's so super good because divine providence?
He only knows how to let real dps carry his raids
dark raft
we rly love lost ark
obtuse oyster
So far no jails <a:STARE:966443281477152768>
jail soon
low nebula
i need 3 more 7/7/<=4 stones
dusk storm
jails are usually monday
dark raft
jail soon <:Pray:976613777153880084>
wind dagger
What jail
dusk storm
cube jail
dark raft
take that back!
low nebula
jails are usually monday
the holiday season is really weird
low nebula
by design, so its ok
dark raft
u dont stay w the same group u filter the inters till u design the strongest most unstoppable party ever.
ty
dusk storm
sometimes you live long enough to become the inter
ancient tundra
the holiday season is really weird
I didn t know lost ark had christmas noobs
Lmao
Till recently
prime wind
Listen sometimes u just wanna coast
dark raft
sometimes you live long enough to become the inter
this is so true and real and based
ancient tundra
dark raft
im bard i cant even tell u how to do lantern ive nevr had to do it
prime wind
Bro I got denied lantern I never seen that happen before
low nebula
I didn t know lost ark had christmas noobs
there a lot of 1415 ppl right now
ive started doing cards and there tons of fresh mokokos
prime wind
They were like no this glaiiver will go
delicate sandal
im bard i cant even tell u how to do lantern ive nevr had to do it
not based
dark raft
thats for rats and roaches
prime wind
I've only done it on my wd and gl
dark raft
me too i take 1 loool
prime wind
Cause they 1580
dark raft
always go 1 boys
prime wind
Sometimes they don't let u go if there's someone bad dps
stoic gull
did it on my wardancer and aero in hardmode. never done it in normal
ancient tundra
@silver hollow 
silver hollow
<@696430996412825701> <:PingReee:397436348455190540>
wtf whos kissing who in that pfp
ancient tundra
Huh
obtuse oyster
https://tenor.com/view/discord-ping-pingus-bingus-cat-gif-18905873
why soo many denters in chat 
ancient tundra
silver hollow
why soo many denters in chat <a:Smoge:1008764914116083742>
bro never type in active eu hours nor late night eu hours
thats something i have learnt
obtuse oyster
bro never type in active eu hours nor late night eu hours
basically never type
silver hollow
basically never type <a:xdding:1025414265550684170>
LOL exactly
dull obsidian
I feel sorry that your region has Aerroon
?
No
Truedmg is hilarious
Aerroon is not
uncut dirge
i'm sorry that you didn't know how bard's GT works
obtuse oyster
i'm sorry that you didn't know how bard's GT works
That you don't know how to use GT shield build?
uncut dirge
the tripod you pointed out doesn't work for what you said it would
it halves the shield duration too
obtuse oyster
or that you think bard has bad stagger, weakpoint, and shielding
silver hollow
+ Rosey and Scalp
bro listen these are the type of ppl when they do Z first thing they do is go check their bible and check supp buffs
then blame it on that
ancient tundra
bro listen these are the type of ppl when they do Z first thing they do is go ch...
Bible is for bozos
obtuse oyster
or that that you unironically think bard is bad cause you're too bad at that game
silver hollow
never take accountability for being wrong have to blame it on the weakling aka supp
uncut dirge
bad? idk, but worse then artist and pala
silver hollow
bad? idk, but worse then artist and pala
obtuse oyster
Bard still has the highest ceiling
it doesn't matter issue
We live in the land of skill issue
silver hollow
Bard still has the highest ceiling
nah but according to scalp ceiling dont matter since its only a few % diff
dull obsidian
ancient tundra
Bard is better than pala just more annoying to play 
silver hollow
Bard is better than pala just more annoying to play <:A_HuSleep:8078381371821916...
thing is ur average bard is a bozo thats why they think bard is bad
but when u play with god bard
obtuse oyster
thing is ur average bard is a bozo thats why they think bard is bad
You tell them that
dull obsidian
Bard > Artist > Paladin after BP in terms of providing most buffs
silver hollow
it beast artist and pally any day of the week
obtuse oyster
and they go, well bard is shit
obtuse oyster
and need buffs
silver hollow
never seen a good one since fayten left
obtuse oyster
you tell them how bard should be doing things
dull obsidian
Paladin takes too long too long to holy aura
tulip charm
what does qts mean?
ancient tundra
thing is ur average bard is a bozo thats why they think bard is bad
They want ez no hands support
dull obsidian
cuties
obtuse oyster
they close ears and go, no bard bad
ancient tundra
And going artist needs hands
uncut dirge
what does qts mean?
qt = cute
silver hollow
they close ears and go, no bard bad
yh exactly thats why rest case and no argue
u know the difference between a good bard and bad one is huge
cuz ceilling is high
same with blade
hence why surge
rarely gets nerfed
cuz average bozo wont preform on it
ancient tundra
u know the difference between a good bard and bad one is huge
U can feel it insta
In the first min
obtuse oyster
yh exactly thats why rest case and no argue
At this point anyone saying that bard is the worse is a dog whistle for being shit
ancient tundra
Of the raid
silver hollow
U can feel it insta
its obvious
ancient tundra
Yep
silver hollow
At this point anyone saying that bard is the worse is a dog whistle for being sh...
they play with no hands
empty sleet
Cope
dull obsidian
hence why surge
Except new surge is still that op 
silver hollow
simple
silver hollow
Except new surge is still that op <:KEKL:1011290526886154313>
we dont talk about that
according to smg its balanced
obtuse oyster
Except new surge is still that op <:KEKL:1011290526886154313>
dodged the nerfs too
silver hollow
alongside glaive and pred
silver hollow
obtuse oyster
subtle rapids
@ancient tundra bro i'm salty
dull obsidian
@stable nymph
ancient tundra
<@801598350599520256> bro i'm salty
Wassup ?
queen grail
https://youtu.be/s6BiSTFRJlw?si=UOKKJapZOnSojxMT @hidden jay @obtuse oyster 
silver hollow
Surge 1% nerf
ngl surge angle after ptr or u 
ancient tundra
No spd boots <a:TableSlam:1040351949729574932>
Same
ancient tundra
It take awhile
dull obsidian
My main blade is still gonna be RE
ancient tundra
To drop good one
obtuse oyster
My main blade is still gonna be RE
ancient tundra
I have a pair on my lynx but i don't wanna steal them cuz u need for mono quantu...
Ye better get other one
dull obsidian
smh
queen grail
https://youtu.be/diLa-gpHRKc?si=ClQzgAy9j6UuyqHw This one is so good! Great voice @obtuse oyster @hidden jay @silver hollow @ancient tundra
dull obsidian
I'll just play both
subtle rapids
because I'm making a 2nd blade
dull obsidian
I can play riot game with my feet
dull obsidian
silver hollow
I can play riot game with my feet
which feets
ancient tundra
silver hollow
send pic to confirm the viability
ancient tundra
Ez
queen grail
<a:catslap:1164937425047535656>
Listen.
silver hollow
quartz turret
bard bad need buffs
obtuse oyster
<:madge:957353442995740723> bard bad need buffs
queen grail
come brel g4 aly
I only got 1 there, and I don't think I've done 1-3 on it I'm in Akkan.
dull obsidian
quartz turret
give single brand give bigger sv give stagger
subtle rapids
<:madge:957353442995740723> bard bad need buffs
Bard bad delete character
uncut dirge
Bard = Needs kit condensed
this
quartz turret
give cleanse
dull obsidian
But even before that shes still the "strongest" support when executed well
silver hollow
I only got 1 there, and I don't think I've done 1-3 on it <:hmjj:109095947785707...
snake classic
dull obsidian
@nova garden I'm coming over
cursive ruin
But even before that shes still the "strongest" support when executed well
The lv 9 gem 1800 spec bards sure
ancient tundra
<@344303345466343425> I'm coming over
U are wat
glacial marsh
silver hollow
3 busses and I earned 70k
wish i had someone to bus with
the average bozo dont even wanna try hard akkan
obtuse oyster
3 busses and I earned 70k
nova garden
i can smell the butter and cinnamon caramelizing with the sugar
silver hollow
glacial marsh
1% combo
ancient tundra
wish i had someone to bus with
silver hollow
move to NAE angle
r
ancient tundra
Hi
dull obsidian
wish i had someone to bus with
Ask people
wind dagger
ancient tundra
Bro
silver hollow
Ask people
which ppl
subtle rapids
dull obsidian
idk?
ancient tundra
Which raid medoo
empty sleet
dull obsidian
my gold shoots up insanely fast
silver hollow
my gold shoots up insanely fast
nice rmt
silver hollow
Which raid medoo
akkan
ancient tundra
I can bus kayangel 
silver hollow
ancient tundra
It is
silver hollow
I can bus kayangel <:HuTaoSleep2:840697105294032936>
ok i rather not even do the raid at all let alone bus it
nova garden
my gold shoots up insanely fast
tends to do that when you use the discount code "chuan69"
quartz turret
bus = lobby sim
dull obsidian
tends to do that when you use the discount code "chuan69"
Fr fr
?
Our bus fills up in 2-3 mins
its faster than looking for a group
LOL
stoic gull
man, what do you even do with that much gold. i barely hit 100k and i already want to buy accs to try different buids
ancient tundra
tends to do that when you use the discount code "chuan69"
Man the code never works
Tried it
silver hollow
man, what do you even do with that much gold. i barely hit 100k and i already wa...
he flips fish
dull obsidian
man, what do you even do with that much gold. i barely hit 100k and i already wa...
waiting for gems to hit 470k
and I'll buy 3 dmg 3 cd
silver hollow
for what class
dull obsidian
DB
silver hollow
but ur db needs only 2 gems
dull obsidian
then I work on honing to 1630
silver hollow
which u have
obtuse oyster
but ur db needs only 2 gems
he's re
silver hollow
silver hollow
i forgot he plays bad spec
silver hollow
i see
dull obsidian
I do more on RE
LMAO
silver hollow
empty sleet
dull obsidian
I parse like 17m RE and 14-15m on surge
silver hollow
I parse like 17m RE and 14-15m on surge
my sh parse 17 og
quartz turret
wait naw dmg gems are 450 rn
queen grail
aly could bus but hes a different breed
To much work with money.
silver hollow
To much work with money.
wym too much work
queen grail
wym too much work
Posting items.
quartz turret
nae has more expensive gems?
silver hollow
i bet u my left toe that 4 man bus clean is faster than ur average nm akkan
dull obsidian
wait naw dmg gems are 450 rn <:HUH:1012917714706235472>
yeh everyone over there already has enough 10's for themselves and mother
ancient tundra
Best i can do is upright fighter
dull obsidian
no demand
silver hollow
Posting items.
that yes
ancient tundra
dull obsidian
I cruel on my 1580 WD every now and again
quartz turret
gems always on demand
dull obsidian
NAE demand > NAW demand
ancient tundra
I cruel on my 1580 WD every now and again
I didn t try with good stuff yet