#lost-ark-discussions

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swift tree
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bruh, talking about their time

magic vector
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Hello,
Thank you for taking your time to read this post. I wish to post a few of the reasons why this game might be overwhelming to some, and why it's really a constant race for few that will never be won.

You have to understand that a lot of people were forced to fomo swipe to improve their weapon and gear before being able to join specific raids. This game is psychologically designed to pray on the idea of being a main character, the idea of being able to feel like you mean something. Many people play this game to appeal to this idea, some examples and not limited to are:
▫️ Oh I dealt top dps I am so good!
▫️ Oh they cannot clear without me, I am just better.
▫️ I must swipe to ensure my friends can keep clearing content.
▫️ I need to swipe to be able to join raids.
▫️ I need to be stronger so girls can look at my in a video game.

All of the points above are true, and I have seen heard numerous instances of them. You might say they are not, but by all means people tend to swipe because of these psychological factors. Either be it R to the M to the T or either be it via legit means using amazon.

By all means, using illegal means to obtain gold is definitely bad, but then again the reason this game is so popular right now is due to the fact that people can make a living from this game from certain countries, or a certain amount of money a month. This eco system isn't terrible by all means, it in facts helps lost ark in many ways. The main issue here is the bots which in turn ruin the economy at a marginal scale, and yes bots will never be fixed sadly.

Take B.F skinners theory as an example, and the pidgeon experiment. You basically spend money in the game, you are rewarded with compliments from friends, more supports adding you, you deal more dps and see bigger numbers, you see yourself more in the MVP screen, you feel gratification. I will not say that is the same for everyone, but I am sure every single one of you felt at some point proud, or a small adrenaline surge when you saw yourself being the MVP on a page or screen.

Moving on to another issue, some people are inherently unlucky. They will never get a drop, and they will see others getting drops resulting into them just leaving as they feel like they are playing to just be punished. This will never stop or change sadly unless a pitty system for drops comes around, which honestly might be a bit dumber than assumed, or the gold of raids is buffed, and accessories made more frequent to reduce their prices. [which again I do not agree with].

To add, bots can never be combatted, so our economy will always be shit, life skill prices are crashing again since life skilling is still available and bots are just stock piling their materials for 3 days mass dumping after 3 days. There needs to be a certain life skill cap, such as reach roster level 50, or reach level 55. Most bots are level 50. It's very easy to get level 55 with the new pass.

How to counter bots: Some ideas
◽ Add a 1445 / or level 55 block from gathering. This will ensure bots will have to exist marginally longer to be able to do any of this.
🔲 Force the passes/power passes/express to only be available to accounts with trusted status.
🔲 Make a channel to let players report bots. You can make it so people cannot view the history of the channel, it's obviously much better, fasted and lets you know the areas bot gather.
🔲 enforce HWID bans on bots.
🔲 Anti cheat will never fix anything. Just accept it, easyanti cheat is known to be one of the worse anti cheats in the market, but a viable option as an anti cheat for obvious hacks/clients and overall issues.

I am running out of words, so I need to post this. However, please read what I wrote and phrase your concerns.

quiet igloo
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Fr aintnoway someone gunna do akkan before breakfast

quiet igloo
# magic vector Hello, Thank you for taking your time to read this post. I wish to post a few o...

Hello,
Thank you for taking your time to read this post. I wish to post a few of the reasons why this game might be overwhelming to some, and why it's really a constant race for few that will never be won.

You have to understand that a lot of people were forced to fomo swipe to improve their weapon and gear before being able to join specific raids. This game is psychologically designed to pray on the idea of being a main character, the idea of being able to feel like you mean something. Many people play this game to appeal to this idea, some examples and not limited to are:
▫️ Oh I dealt top dps I am so good!
▫️ Oh they cannot clear without me, I am just better.
▫️ I must swipe to ensure my friends can keep clearing content.
▫️ I need to swipe to be able to join raids.
▫️ I need to be stronger so girls can look at my in a video game.

All of the points above are true, and I have seen heard numerous instances of them. You might say they are not, but by all means people tend to swipe because of these psychological factors. Either be it R to the M to the T or either be it via legit means using amazon.

By all means, using illegal means to obtain gold is definitely bad, but then again the reason this game is so popular right now is due to the fact that people can make a living from this game from certain countries, or a certain amount of money a month. This eco system isn't terrible by all means, it in facts helps lost ark in many ways. The main issue here is the bots which in turn ruin the economy at a marginal scale, and yes bots will never be fixed sadly.

Take B.F skinners theory as an example, and the pidgeon experiment. You basically spend money in the game, you are rewarded with compliments from friends, more supports adding you, you deal more dps and see bigger numbers, you see yourself more in the MVP screen, you feel gratification. I will not say that is the same for everyone, but I am sure every single one of you felt at some point proud, or a small adrenaline surge when you saw yourself being the MVP on a page or screen.

Moving on to another issue, some people are inherently unlucky. They will never get a drop, and they will see others getting drops resulting into them just leaving as they feel like they are playing to just be punished. This will never stop or change sadly unless a pitty system for drops comes around, which honestly might be a bit dumber than assumed, or the gold of raids is buffed, and accessories made more frequent to reduce their prices. [which again I do not agree with].

To add, bots can never be combatted, so our economy will always be shit, life skill prices are crashing again since life skilling is still available and bots are just stock piling their materials for 3 days mass dumping after 3 days. There needs to be a certain life skill cap, such as reach roster level 50, or reach level 55. Most bots are level 50. It's very easy to get level 55 with the new pass.

How to counter bots: Some ideas
◽ Add a 1445 / or level 55 block from gathering. This will ensure bots will have to exist marginally longer to be able to do any of this.
🔲 Force the passes/power passes/express to only be available to accounts with trusted status.
🔲 Make a channel to let players report bots. You can make it so people cannot view the history of the channel, it's obviously much better, fasted and lets you know the areas bot gather.
🔲 enforce HWID bans on bots.
🔲 Anti cheat will never fix anything. Just accept it, easyanti cheat is known to be one of the worse anti cheats in the market, but a viable option as an anti cheat for obvious hacks/clients and overall issues.

I am running out of words, so I need to post this. However, please read what I wrote and phrase your concerns.

magic vector
ancient tundra
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Ain t now way i read this shit

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Gl

quartz turret
quiet igloo
swift lava
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Save me a spot? lol

fresh flint
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I hope you both choke on a big dick

wind dagger
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wtf

magic vector
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What he say

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NODS

swift tree
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Jesus and yall bitch about my story posting

quiet igloo
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You tell them chris

magic vector
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Writer duh

quiet igloo
swift lava
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Move 1620 to 1st spot it’s driving me crazy

fresh flint
swift tree
quiet igloo
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Don't make me send again

fresh flint
magic vector
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It ain't even that vad

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It's. Good post.

quiet igloo
fresh flint
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I’m done pooping bye ✌️

swift tree
swift lava
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Yea I’m gonna be watching videos this weekend. I’ll be more prepared compared to akkan at least

quiet igloo
fresh flint
quiet igloo
fresh flint
quiet igloo
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Imma miss u

fresh flint
fresh flint
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There there my child

swift tree
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If I wanted to time by BMs I'd have to stop enjoying cheese

fresh flint
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Bruh I’m 🤏 this close you blocking you eternally

fresh flint
swift tree
frail holly
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@sand marsh @cedar zealot are yall progging voldike hard or normal

swift lava
fresh flint
quiet igloo
frail holly
quiet igloo
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And above

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Wait

magic vector
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Damn that's crazy...

ancient tundra
swift lava
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Do you think I should try akkan hm next week or stay on nm til I get weapon

ancient tundra
swift tree
ancient tundra
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Wtf

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Holy

magic vector
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It ain't mine

frail holly
magic vector
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But holy shit

quiet igloo
magic vector
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No it's real

swift lava
swift tree
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no it aint

fresh flint
swift tree
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1610 drops it

ancient tundra
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Wait what s the max

magic vector
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I JUST SAID IT AIN'T MINE

ancient tundra
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1580 drops

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?

magic vector
frail holly
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10

magic vector
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50k

swift lava
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Do you get anything different from hm besides pet?

magic vector
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Elduego

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A samn

ancient tundra
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Welp 20k

swift tree
magic vector
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Wait so 1620 is 200k?

ancient tundra
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Ty guys prayge

quiet igloo
magic vector
quiet igloo
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What

swift tree
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1630 is 200k

swift lava
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Only gold drop I’ve gotten is 10k madge

quiet igloo
swift tree
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1630 is next chaos

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with bat guardian

ancient tundra
swift lava
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Bruh like

quiet igloo
ancient tundra
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But in 1540 one

swift lava
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How fucking high ilvl are we going I can barely keep up

quiet igloo
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I got 10k twice back to back

swift tree
swift lava
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I can’t even imagine trying to hone to 1630

swift tree
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KR has been 1600-1650 for a year now

quiet igloo
ancient tundra
swift tree
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we've had 3 months at most

swift lava
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Yea it’s going to be a hot ass min before I can get to 1610

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Leaps are a problem for me rn

swift tree
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We've been expected to hone twice the speed of KR

quiet igloo
magic vector
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Idk voldia release next week is dumb as fuck

ancient tundra
magic vector
ancient tundra
magic vector
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We don't even have 1540 yet

quiet igloo
magic vector
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Tf u mean 1580

ancient tundra
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We have 1540

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Tf u mean

swift tree
ancient tundra
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Lmao

swift lava
frail holly
magic vector
delicate sandal
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@stable nymph @sand marsh im ready anytime now

ancient tundra
swift tree
swift lava
frail holly
quiet igloo
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Can we get like, a 1650 ticket in the shop for $20k or something

swift lava
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Ticket?

quiet igloo
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Yeh

swift tree
swift lava
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Like powerpass?

frail holly
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so we get thaemine 3 months from voldike

quiet igloo
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No ticket

frail holly
quiet igloo
swift lava
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Idk what a ticket is

quiet igloo
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Fuck you mean

frail holly
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i guess we all thaemine normal

quiet igloo
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Ticket is a piece of paper

swift lava
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Tbh I can’t imagine how bad sup shortage is going to be later on

ancient tundra
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Thaemine in 3 months incoming GarfChristmas

cedar zealot
swift lava
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I really should start pushing my paladin

cedar zealot
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also will be nice to get some purple elixirs

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if g4 dps check is actually that tight

frail holly
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i wanna prog with somebody here hopefully

swift lava
quiet igloo
swift lava
swift tree
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Thaemine normal has same rewards as hard just less.
Only difference is you dont get G4 and no accessing the purple quest epilogue

quiet igloo
ancient tundra
quiet igloo
swift lava
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How many more raids are we getting? It feels like they are just adding stuff atp lol

swift tree
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Or at least Kurzan in 6 months

quiet igloo
swift lava
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But I’m not complaining new content is always fun

quiet igloo
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Haha

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It definitely is

ancient tundra
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Not even 15% of the story is over

cedar zealot
ancient tundra
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Apparently

quiet igloo
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I love watching bussers do content for me

swift tree
quiet igloo
swift tree
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Lost Ark has 3 acts

frail holly
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we have to go to pretrania

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and meet our next waifu

ancient tundra
swift lava
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Even if it’s just for experience

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To learn mechs

swift tree
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See: Shakespeare, Tolkien etc.

ancient tundra
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Act 2 will be the longest

swift lava
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I wish I had my akkan weapon rn madge

ancient tundra
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Prob

frail holly
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act 2 is when we get to have seggs?

ancient tundra
swift lava
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How many red stones to hone to 20 weapon

quiet igloo
ancient tundra
quiet igloo
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Bro this isn't Minecraft

swift tree
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BBEG for Act 2 is Zosma

swift lava
summer knoll
swift lava
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Honestly I am always short red stones so I’ve been stacking as much as I can

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I have like 35k rn

winged axle
quiet igloo
ancient tundra
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G3 is no joke

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Wtf

quiet igloo
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Morning

frail holly
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is this thaemine or voldike

swift tree
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COPIUM Or just main support

swift lava
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So g3 is the hardest?

delicate sandal
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no

supple parrot
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should be fine shruge not that tight

delicate sandal
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dont just look at the dps check

swift tree
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1 and 4 have harder mechanics than 3

delicate sandal
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every raid dps varies

quiet igloo
frail holly
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naw you're wrong

delicate sandal
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ur not hitting 20 mil dps on valtan

swift tree
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It's Ivoery Tower kek

delicate sandal
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for example as a 1620

swift lava
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I mean ivory tower isn’t like a huge deal because we don’t get anything new besides elixir right?

quiet igloo
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For example OMEGALUL

frail holly
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sonavel has the best dps

swift lava
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So no ilvl increase or gear set

supple parrot
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6 more hones to 1610 on deadeye FeelsGladMan

quiet igloo
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Bros gunna write a whole paragraph

swift tree
frail holly
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where do i find ivory tower

swift lava
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Yea I just mean there’s no big deal about finishing all the gates

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Unless you just want to

quiet igloo
swift lava
supple parrot
swift tree
swift lava
frail holly
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there is no dps difference from 1580 to 1620 the main difference is elixer

fresh flint
swift lava
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WOW

swift tree
# swift lava From ivory?

You get 2 passive stat bonuses per piece of armour with elixirs, and based on the set bonuses equipped on helm/gloves you get an extra set bonus

swift tree
delicate sandal
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@sand marshwhy napoleon afkmadge

swift tree
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Set 3+

swift lava
fresh flint
swift tree
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35 elixirs is Set 3+
40 Elixirs is Set 3++

frail holly
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how much money do i have to spend to go from 1610 to 1620

supple parrot
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elixir is much more dmg than going up a gear set lol

quiet igloo
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Tf is transcendence then HUH

supple parrot
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its a huge power spike

quiet igloo
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Set +++++++

swift lava
quiet igloo
supple parrot
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getting 40 elixirs is like 20% more dmg

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thats = 12 weapon hones

swift tree
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The RNG is getting 7-8 per armour piece

supple parrot
frail holly
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20% more damage?

swift tree
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It's a weird logic minigame

frail holly
quiet igloo
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New gear set after thaemine?

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Idk what else they'd add

supple parrot
quiet igloo
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Oh

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Maybe

quiet igloo
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Esther gemsneuroCatModeOn

swift tree
frail holly
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and esther increases your damage by like 50%?

quiet igloo
swift lava
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God dude. So not only do I have to worry about quality taps, I gotta worry about honing akkan gear on my main and elixir. This is going to wreck me

quiet igloo
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That's lost ark for ya

swift lava
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Esther accessories?

quiet igloo
swift lava
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Oh lol

frail holly
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u can't wait for esther armor

quiet igloo
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Yeah don't be giving smile gate any ideas

swift lava
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Bruh there’s too many fucking levels and systems in this game lmao

quiet igloo
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Esther 10 gunna cost two ester 8s

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And literally do nothing special

frail holly
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i personally can't wait to craft 5 esther armors

swift tree
frail holly
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you'll have 5m hp before shield

swift lava
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I have 5 Esther stones rn xdd

quiet igloo
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And then you'll have built in heavy armor

swift lava
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Destroyer is good for ivory tower or is it voldick

quiet igloo
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The player becomes the final boss

frail holly
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6 esthers skills 1 per esther piece

quiet igloo
swift tree
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IT is Kayangel, Voldis is Elgacia etc.

swift lava
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Yea but scalp was saying destroyer is good for one of the newer ones

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I can’t remember which one he said tho

swift tree
quiet igloo
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Destroyer HUH

swift lava
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Thank god

frail holly
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i dropped my destroyer

quiet igloo
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You guys can't do it yet?

swift lava
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Finally I can play something new and not have to worry about some stupid ass meter

quiet igloo
frail holly
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no

swift lava
quiet igloo
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Hah

swift lava
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Why would you do that don

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I’m disappointed in you

frail holly
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because i needed aero and artist, soulfist and souleater + slayer in my top 6

quiet igloo
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@winged axle

silver hollow
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Transcendence is more dmg than 10% btw, seems like most of the theamine day1 whales are sitting at 16-17% atm not sure if they do gain more or thats the cap for now

quiet igloo
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I'll get for bard too

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Join the club

swift tree
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anyone want to ride the magic flesh-carpet?

quiet igloo
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Fuck no

swift lava
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Ok bob Ross

quiet igloo
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Who

swift lava
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I said happy lil accident lmao

swift lava
supple parrot
swift tree
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My Artist is called Happylilaccident

quiet igloo
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Bob Ross that painter dude

frail holly
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my artist is called lolidon

swift lava
swift tree
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My Homunculus is Happyliltree

swift lava
quiet igloo
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I thought one of the bosses wasn't tauntable

swift tree
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Probably flower or last one tbh

swift lava
quiet igloo
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Zeals said one of them isn't tauntable so why would he need Gunlancer

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Bro was big mad

swift lava
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Well I don’t like any other class really besides deadeye rn

quartz turret
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deadge im out of leaps on 5 chars

cedar zealot
swift lava
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I have tried arti, machinist, deadeye, Paladin, destroyer

cedar zealot
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good stuff, gonna save it in bookmarks

swift lava
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Oh and striker

swift tree
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Sharpshooter, GL and Zerker are alright ones

wind dagger
swift lava
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Fuck female classes

wind dagger
swift lava
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And fuck smilegate for not releasing male classes

wind dagger
swift tree
wintry depot
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Female classes guves more money

swift tree
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literally it

swift lava
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I want a male soul eater so bad

wintry depot
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Fuck male classes

wind dagger
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coomer whales

wintry depot
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When female pala

swift tree
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KR players hate male avatars and vote for the most safe boring stuff.

swift lava
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Yea scalp idk how to perform better I literally learned rotations for destroyer and everything

swift tree
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Warrior player always submits 1 bland and 2 cool art designs for contest and the boring shit always wins

quartz turret
swift lava
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Yes I do. I literally am afk with my character on the screen a lot of the time

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Having hot character is what makes game fun for me

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More fun

wintry depot
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Skins is all that matters

frail holly
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it just so happens that the most fun classes are the female ones... because there's only 5 male classes

cedar zealot
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going down or up

swift lava
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Tbh they should release both genders for each class at the same time

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No idea why they release them the way they do

frail holly
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pso2 cosmetics be like::

delicate sandal
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i have 6 femalegigachad

wind dagger
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and they are coomers

wintry depot
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Just use a moko skin or some shit on a female class, u wont even notice it

swift tree
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Literally have 1 of every class, top six is 4m 2f

swift lava
swift tree
frail holly
swift lava
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Ok i will

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I just don’t wanna start over again

swift tree
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It's a weird Korea dev specific thing about saving 3d modelling money on only rigging and animating class animations for 1 body type

swift lava
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Like my destroyer is always gonna be my main even if I suck w him

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Cause I love my destroyer catblush

frail holly
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I agree with you. But it doesn't. I think you should be more open mided. But again, my opinion. But you should look into Slayer, it's much easier to play than berserker and does good damage.

wind dagger
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shruge I main swapped from Bard to Scrapper months ago, actually a year ago

swift lava
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For someone like you it’s not the same as someone like me lol

wind dagger
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Prokel, oh lord

swift tree
wind dagger
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Artist

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god

robust birch
swift lava
stable nymph
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@sand marsh im back from afk session lets go bus 🙂

frail holly
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artist is the most fun support

swift lava
stable nymph
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brel

swift lava
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22 weapon

stable nymph
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stagger

robust birch
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When did I have 2m gold

wind dagger
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you mean chuan?

swift tree
stable nymph
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you dont have to deathboi if you dont want to

swift lava
stable nymph
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or need some more time

frail holly
robust birch
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I'm not changing it

stable nymph
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👍

robust birch
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I didn't change it to this

swift lava
frail holly
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NA can't read

wind dagger
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deadge i don't wanns spend any more money but this game force me, why it's satealing my money

frail holly
silver hollow
wind dagger
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I'll just rmt, problem solved shruge

swift lava
silver hollow
wind dagger
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no I don't want to get perma

silver hollow
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I mean u won’t

swift lava
wind dagger
silver hollow
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Look at chuan running free

frail holly
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u won't get perma if u rmt just let chuan hook you up

wind dagger
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chuan be like:

1620, 5x 1610, all bounds

swift lava
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I know someone who rmt like 10m gold and only got 1 day suspension

silver hollow
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Yh hes the man for it

wind dagger
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and 2m gold

silver hollow
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Just play efficiently

swift lava
frail holly
wind dagger
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shruge if you do it as a group

swift lava
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He was buying in g2a from sketchy person

frail holly
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because you'll always reset to 0

wind dagger
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handfarm as a group

swift lava
wind dagger
robust birch
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ok mr 1580 in 3 months

frail holly
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umm

wind dagger
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my scrapper still 1580 shruge

frail holly
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u can get 1580 in 3 days

robust birch
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in march

swift lava
swift lava
wind dagger
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jesus fuck

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who is that rmter

robust birch
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1 january 2 february 3 march

frail holly
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oh yea f2p right? post the larger screenshot

wind dagger
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🤡

silver hollow
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Damn bis book

wind dagger
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amazing

frail holly
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dang is that a hell carry i see

wind dagger
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10 euros

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surely not much right for rc

silver hollow
wind dagger
silver hollow
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Hell carry dn

rocky jackal
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You don't get books in hell

frail holly
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/s

wind dagger
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wait mi

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how does someone that sells hell runs

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get the gold?

swift lava
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Isn’t destroyer getting buff next month?

supple parrot
fresh flint
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What the shit fuck

swift lava
supple parrot
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like every other bus

rocky jackal
swift lava
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Chuan is destroyer getting buff next month?

wintry depot
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Yes

swift lava
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Crit increase and faster bonks?

wind dagger
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who is this

wintry depot
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But i think its more of a gt buff

delicate sandal
swift lava
rocky jackal
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How much gold is that in bc?

supple parrot
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rh gettin buffed

wintry depot
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Im not totally sure tho

wind dagger
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lol

delicate sandal
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u can buy mayhem slayer for like $150

swift lava
supple parrot
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yes

frail holly
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dang u are apart of the rmt chat

supple parrot
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i mean the dmg ceiling on destroyer

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is pretty high

wind dagger
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but who is this?

supple parrot
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its just hard to reach

fresh flint
wind dagger
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WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE

swift lava
rocky jackal
wintry depot
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Theres the buff like the gl that u gain less meter from the boss when you tank hits

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Ok idk how to explain

wind dagger
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174m gold

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more gold than people have in silver

supple parrot
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its for thaemine

wintry depot
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Cn be nice for akkan too

wind dagger
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Wakkanda

supple parrot
#

nah even with the buff u'll still get a full gauge if u tank

wintry depot
#

But yeah, its more for next content

delicate sandal
supple parrot
#

u still have to move

prime dust
#

is there a day/time where people do cubes for faster queus?

delicate sandal
wind dagger
#

rmt or hack

wintry depot
#

Do them alone, its fast queue

wind dagger
#

must be hacks at this point

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or just a rmt gold farm owner

#

definitely rmt

delicate sandal
#

small corpa

wind dagger
prime dust
swift lava
#

Ok scalp is the rmter now

rocky jackal
swift lava
#

Where u getting all these screenshots Susge

silver hollow
delicate sandal
wind dagger
#

deathboi has access to private information

rocky jackal
#

2.5m?

prime dust
wind dagger
#

that was when it was out

#

months ago

#

with clown

swift lava
#

Nice pheons

frail holly
#

ima need this cord for research purposes

delicate sandal
wind dagger
#

is there some hack I can convert my silver to gold

frail holly
#

yea it's called rmt

buoyant wagon
#

the auction house

supple parrot
#

Scalp just repostin other ppls screenshot

frail holly
#

i know he is

swift lava
#

Ngl might be worth to rmt once for honing

supple parrot
#

While he himself can’t even hit a 20 weapon

wind dagger
buoyant wagon
#

why not?

rocky jackal
wind dagger
#

well, as long as the source doesn't have botted gold

buoyant wagon
#

you think AGS actually monitors t2 accessories?

swift lava
buoyant wagon
#

t2 accessories sell for literal tens of millions daily

wind dagger
buoyant wagon
#

heck i always use t2 accessories

swift lava
#

Need days off the lest rest build up anyways

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
#

to save my sellers gold on pheons

swift lava
wind dagger
#

I guess its a precedent now, time to rmt

supple parrot
swift lava
#

But it def pops up in my head a lot lately

buoyant wagon
wind dagger
#

whut

buoyant wagon
wind dagger
#

I have to get 10 euros for appearance change

supple parrot
swift lava
cedar zealot
#

gz

rocky jackal
#

@buoyant wagon show them how to rmt without getting banned

wind dagger
#

serenai is legi

swift lava
#

I spent so much money on this game already

wind dagger
#

or was it setsura

rocky jackal
#

They are the same person

wind dagger
#

who bought 3 dmg for 1000 dollar

supple parrot
swift lava
#

Setsura is the one who busses Brel for 10k but you gotta do mechs

cedar zealot
#

what are u expecting tomorrow on loa ON @buoyant wagon

swift lava
#

lol

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And I’m 1600 rn so wym

rocky jackal
#

How you not 1650 then

wind dagger
supple parrot
swift lava
buoyant wagon
wind dagger
#

who is everyone

wind dagger
#

SG finally gonna end Lost Ark? And announce Lost Ark 2?

rocky jackal
swift lava
supple parrot
buoyant wagon
#

im f2p and only just got my 1580 alts

#

hold on i'm not chuan

wind dagger
#

xd

buoyant wagon
#

let me purge my f2p delusions

supple parrot
swift lava
rocky jackal
swift lava
#

And play the game nonstop neglecting your wife

wind dagger
#

dumbass

buoyant wagon
supple parrot
swift lava
supple parrot
swift lava
#

There’s no way you legit got a 1600 in 3 months without express stuff

wind dagger
supple parrot
#

Wdym without express

wind dagger
#

f2p btw

supple parrot
#

It’s a jump char

swift lava
rocky jackal
#

Of course he used the express

supple parrot
#

Why would I not use express

swift lava
#

Then why bring it up

#

Last express pass I abandoned it

#

That’s why my arti sitting at 1490 with no engravings lmao

supple parrot
#

Cuz u say u spend too much alrdy shruge was a reply to that

prime dust
#

I wonder what % of players over 1600 have ever RMT. I feel like its higher than I'd expect 😦

swift lava
#

I did.,.before everyone was 1600

swift lava
#

That’s why I don’t swipe anymore

winged axle
supple parrot
wind dagger
#

Soul eaters 1620 full level 10

prime dust
#

I've never RMT... it just makes me sadge

buoyant wagon
#

probably at least 1/5

swift lava
#

If they aren’t doing it on g2a they have hand farmer friends to buy it from

rocky jackal
#

Like @buoyant wagon

stark thicket
buoyant wagon
#

1600+ probably isnt a good metric

#

1620+ is probably where you get a higher proportion

swift lava
#

1630

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lol

supple parrot
swift lava
#

Bro stfu with saying stuff is free

prime dust
#

I'm not concerned about a "higher % of players"

#

I'm concerned with a total number of RMT.

#

not the biggest whales.

swift lava
#

Bro said he can’t hone and how rough it is earlier now it’s free

rocky jackal
swift lava
supple parrot
swift lava
#

No thanks

buoyant wagon
#

most people with a 25 weapon likely bought gold

swift lava
buoyant wagon
#

people with multiple characters with full 10s likely bought gold

frail holly
#

25 akkan weapon? 100% rmt unless ur a millionare

rocky jackal
#

Or a streamer

buoyant wagon
#

nah some people got disgustingly lucky

cursive ruin
supple parrot
prime dust
#

1600 isnt free btw..

frail holly
#

1600 is free 1610 is when it starts costing

swift lava
#

Do you not see 1620 at the end there?

prime dust
#

im at 1595 with 100 leaps.... tell me its free

buoyant wagon
#

1600 is "free" in the sense is easily achievable by long playing f2ps

#

or people who started a few months before path to souleater

supple parrot
# swift lava ^

Look what I replied to. And use context u idiot. Maybe 1620+ ppl rmt. Not maybe 1620 is free

#

U dumb ass

swift lava
#

Whatever

supple parrot
robust birch
supple parrot
#

Crazy how ppl’s first language is English and still can’t read

swift lava
#

1700 is free guys

cursive ruin
#

reap stones

prime dust
#

people here really disconnected. Thinking that grinding 2 months for something is "free"

silver hollow
buoyant wagon
#

its a fucking mmo lmao

silver hollow
buoyant wagon
#

do you not expect to grind for something

cursive ruin
#

My tea's gone cold I wonder why

robust birch
#

If it doesn't cost money then it's free

supple parrot
prime dust
#

it's also a game built around alts....

buoyant wagon
#

taking 2 months in mmo time is basically free especially if it's a goal you are expected to work on over time

cursive ruin
#

(Your time is money)

silver hollow
robust birch
#

0 dollars = free

silver hollow
rocky jackal
swift lava
#

Bro got multiple rosters

supple parrot
swift lava
#

Plus js

robust birch
#

just regular logic shruge

frail holly
#

getting to 1600 is literally just getting 6 akkan pieces

rocky jackal
#

Lol what is that example

supple parrot
buoyant wagon
#

1600 is free for anyone who has played the game for a reasonable amount of time

#

e.g. at least half a year if using path to souleater

swift lava
#

Yea free if you don’t have to pay gold

#

Or craft oreha

buoyant wagon
#

more if not counting path

ancient tundra
#

@silver hollow u mf LMAO

prime dust
#

half a year... free... people really do simp for how difficult it is to progress in this game.

ancient tundra
silver hollow
swift lava
silver hollow
#

Hi frogewave

ancient tundra
#

Hi

buoyant wagon
#

1600 is pretty much nearing the endgame in our version

swift lava
#

We’re at a point where real new players won’t even give this game a chance

buoyant wagon
#

you could hit 1600 if you played like 1-2 months before path to souleater

#

on the expressed character

prime dust
#

peopel here are going to cry if honing is nerfed "ITS TO EASY FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE IT TO END GAME"

buoyant wagon
#

that's completely reasonable

silver hollow
#

Dw after the patch u Will graduate and no longer provide crit but u will start doing dmg too KekPat @ancient tundra

cursive ruin
#

Again just use your mom's credit card

#

It's free, you don't lose any money

supple parrot
#

I mean u can make a brand new acc and hit 1600 in 2 months ish playing an hour a day shruge

swift lava
#

Lmao

prime dust
#

lmao

#

such a lie

swift lava
#

Like bro is higher than me

supple parrot
#

I literally did it

#

?

buoyant wagon
#

with path

#

is completely possible

swift lava
#

And rmt

buoyant wagon
#

you dont need to rmt to hit 1600 in around 2 months with express and path

supple parrot
#

U realize path of se takes u to 1580 in 2-3 weeks right

swift lava
#

Chuan lemme get your dealers number I want some of what you on

prime dust
#

do you even know how much gold that would take and mats??

supple parrot
#

And then u get full Akkan set in 4 weeks

prime dust
#

and gems?

buoyant wagon
#

2 months probably requires some above average luck honing 1580-1600 to save leaps

supple parrot
cursive ruin
#

Hitting 1600 for me would cost about 5 times as much as the regular person because I guarantee you I'd pity all pieces at 20%

swift lava
buoyant wagon
#

so probably 3 months with average luck

prime dust
#

youre talking about at least 2 million gold... You think a person with a new acc on a solo char can farm 2 mil gold?

buoyant wagon
#

chuan is mentally challenged most of the time but he's not wrong in this instance

supple parrot
#

If u think u need 2 million gold to hit 1600 imma just stop talking to u

#

Literal morons

swift lava
cedar zealot
#

Hyper express + path of SE makes getting to 1580 pretty cheap and quick

swift lava
#

I can’t even hone my alts up to 1540 so yall talking about shit being free is wild

cedar zealot
#

If you don't use those, then yeah 1600 will be a pain to get to

buoyant wagon
#

have you considered you arent meant to hit 1600 quickly without express/path?

swift lava
cursive ruin
supple parrot
#

The whole premise is that u use path of se. If you don’t use it then it’s not part of what I’m talking about

cedar zealot
#

I'm building up my third zerk now, getting him to 1520 then stop there, do dailies till the next hyper express + path on feb

buoyant wagon
#

the entire point has been about using path

cedar zealot
#

Then push to 1600 ez

buoyant wagon
#

nobody has been arguing that 1600 is "free" without path unless you are a veteran player

#

who has stockpiled gold and mats

supple parrot
#

I literally made a new character on east. Started from nothing and got to 1600 in less than 3 months. It would be even faster now as u get honing books for Akkan gear up to 1600

frail holly
#

yea 1600 isn't the problem tho the real problem is 1620

stark thicket
#

tasty

swift lava
cursive ruin
#

Even with path you'd run out of leaps in like 2 upgrades tho

#

hey little chuan

#

could you do the kakao_09

supple parrot
#

Why r u talking when u don’t know the facts

rocky jackal
#

How did you get into raids?

swift lava
#

Meanwhile I can’t even get into clown with Brel title lol

cursive ruin
supple parrot
swift lava
cedar zealot
cursive ruin
#

Chuan finishing a raid with jumpstart peeps is a miracle by itself

swift lava
#

1520 next week

#

I mean that’s just because I was going to abandon him and I decided to give him another try so I’ve been making all of his gems again

#

I have some level 7 too

cedar zealot
#

I don't take anyone below 1540 for clown skp lobbies

#

Unless sup

cursive ruin
#

I don't take machini

swift lava
#

I just need to do it for 2 weeks to finish my level 2 set I’ll probably just do vykas after

supple parrot
cursive ruin
#

It's ok you'll get there

#

Took my friend 1580 to finally learn vykas

swift lava
#

Until I get to 1540 and can get in lobbies easy

rocky jackal
cedar zealot
cursive ruin
#

little chuanokoko has been donowalling me for a bit now

supple parrot
cedar zealot
#

Easy access to Kay hm and brel hm

cursive ruin
#

Chuan those raids were only with js people right

cedar zealot
#

Still sleeping*

supple parrot
#

Now it’s merged

cursive ruin
#

What roster level were u

supple parrot
#

Like 80?

swift lava
#

lol

cursive ruin
#

That's crazy

supple parrot
#

60-80 prob. So was everyone else

#

Now I’m 97 or 98

#

Everyone on jump was basically the same gear

swift lava
#

imagine playing mutiple rosters like 1 isn't insane grind

cursive ruin
#

And the fact you weren't jailed like 9/10 times

swift lava
#

idk how yall do it cause 6 characters burned me tf out

#

on top of the community being total shit

supple parrot
cursive ruin
#

Cuz I take a gamble with kayangel players very often and hitting the coin toss correctly 7 times is like a 9/7 stone

cedar zealot
cursive ruin
#

Oh yeah that makes more sense

cedar zealot
#

I have been feeling burnt out too

swift lava
cursive ruin
#

I couldn't imagine pugging akkan with js peeps before merge

cursive ruin
cedar zealot
supple parrot
swift lava
cursive ruin
#

Because even if they're still learning they'll only learn it once and you do it with them every week from now on

swift lava
#

but i do like having the option to always have something to do so maybe that is part of the appeal for others

cursive ruin
#

My experience doing raids in js even some elementary stuff like brel g1-g2 is people don't speak and can't put 2 and 2 together

supple parrot
cursive ruin
swift lava
supple parrot
#

The brels I joined on jump I pretty much hard carried doing 30%+ dmg every week

cursive ruin
#

nvm you're NA

swift lava
cursive ruin
#

He didn't wanna learn vykas because he gets knocked in the air too much

#

But I forced him to learn it so he can ccarry my alts for free

swift lava
#

i did two vykas busses w scalp yesterday it was easy

solemn valve
#

Does anyone know why RS soulfist uses spec/swift bracelet?

cursive ruin
#

I asked myself that, but I assumed the class just overcaps with all the buffs and synergy and swift just makes your rotation smoother

#

Better ask in soulfist chat

solemn valve
#

where is that chat do you know?

cursive ruin
solemn valve
#

ty

cursive ruin
#

Good timing cuz I wanna know too

swift lava
#

god this cold weather is fucking my hands up so bad

prime dust
tulip charm
#

Wait a minute, wasn’t there a player name mizu from here?

cedar zealot
#

Did he leave

supple parrot
#

How are ppl this dumb

#

Holy shit

prime dust
swift lava
prime dust
#

i forgot

swift lava
#

LOL

supple parrot
prime dust
#

one hour a day

supple parrot
#

Under. As I didn’t even log on every day shruge

prime dust
#

one hour a day

supple parrot
#

Prob 3-5 hours a week total

prime dust
#

one hour a day

supple parrot
#

Tops

prime dust
#

one hour a dayu

supple parrot
#

Why is this clown on repeat

silver hollow
supple parrot
prime dust
#

because you somehow love to defend the idea that its okay for a game that wants you to play alts to grind 3 months for a single char to make it to the endgame and then call us stupid

supple parrot
#

Ok let’s just take ur spread sheet. And take off everything u get from path of se and old express’s and tell me how much gold it is. And u originally said 2 mil

swift lava
#

imma just watch this drama

supple parrot
#

U absolute imbecile

tulip charm
# cedar zealot Did he leave

Assuming it’s the same mizu from here, he got banned and got stoned walled in trying to appeal apparently in that link

supple parrot
#

Go back to elementary school and learn basic algebra

#

U absolute clown

wind dagger
hidden jay
supple parrot
hidden jay
#

1600 is actually free ngl

supple parrot
#

The sad part is even if u go with his math to buy everything. 1.3 mil is still a lot less than 2 mil

hidden jay
#

+15 on akkan gear is effortless

prime dust
swift lava
supple parrot
#

Literal moron making spread sheet to prove himself wrong

prime dust
#

i didnt include shards...

swift lava
#

if it's free why do i only have 1 1600 character ember

hidden jay
#

Bruh my alts getting to 1600 with fused leaps lol

swift lava
#

i'd say 1540

hidden jay
#

I'm not even trying

wind dagger
#

1600 is free indeed, I'll contact some friends of mine

swift lava
#

is where you can draw the "free" line

supple parrot
swift lava
#

my time is valuable

supple parrot
#

Make a new char. Use path of se on it. Do rested dailies. See how long it take u to get to 1600 shruge

supple parrot
#

Under 3 months for me

swift lava
#

i only got to use path of souleater on my main though. do i have to make a brand new acct?

hidden jay
#

They're per region

swift lava
#

so i can use it on my naw?

supple parrot
swift lava
#

hold up

#

i have a una character already

night coral
#

i just came back after over a year not playing, i got a popup fro an event that helps from 1415 to 1520 and now i can only see the help from 1490 to 1610, my main is 1480 how can i join the first event i dont see the window anymore

wind dagger
supple parrot
silver hollow
supple parrot
#

If u didn’t make use of it

#

It’s gone

swift lava
#

i thought support ended on 1580

night coral
cedar zealot
supple parrot
cedar zealot
#

who knows all the strats

swift lava
#

well shit that's good to know. thanks

night coral
supple parrot
swift lava
#

but are we even getting more events?

night coral
swift lava
#

oh that is why. i can't use souleater on NAW until i am 1490

#

and that is going to take forever to do...

supple parrot
cedar zealot
#

next hyper express + path event should be with male scrapper

cursive ruin
#

gyat skipidi

blissful narwhal
#

hey is this worth something?
or no class uses spec swiftness with super charge?

swift lava
#

well i'd like to maybe try a new character on naw

night coral
delicate sandal
#

@sand marshugh me fucking up when we so far in

fresh flint
cursive ruin
#

pepper laugh he lacks critical information !!!

#

hey scalp how is brel g4 looking

supple parrot
swift lava
#

sad i already used my powerpass but i will make a zerker next

supple parrot
night coral
#

thanks for making me figure out it was a me problem

swift lava
delicate sandal
night coral
cursive ruin
#

Just had the best sonavel ever (for personal numbers). Big crit big BA and we had a gunlancer taunting the bozo and an artist feeding me her balls

#

But we had a sorc so it took 9 mins

blissful narwhal
swift lava
supple parrot
swift lava
#

i mean i am on old una character i made rn

thorn elk
#

my akkan gear going +14all effeortfull haha all of em pitied even going +13 rip af

swift lava
#

just for shits and giggles

silver hollow
#

Undeserved

gusty cape
#

anyone else find that tracking in Voldis Great Rainforest is bugged? Specifically, that the rabbits inside the secret dungeon are not dropping oreha meats?

delicate sandal
#

from bus?

uncut stratus
#

@sand marsh time to do akkan nm xdding

supple parrot
delicate sandal
uncut stratus
#

on a 1620

cursive ruin
#

destroyer
See that's the reason you're burning out, you play destroyer unironically

supple parrot
#

Nothing wrong with destroyer

#

It’s a good class

swift lava
#

one good thing about me making a zerk is i can use all my skins on him too

#

😄

frail holly
#

chat can i do gargadeth blind?

cursive ruin
#

Yeah it's a good class no doubt