#lost-ark-discussions
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Lost ark players in a nutshell
Have someone run yearning
Like GL
if they want to remove supports they would have to rework a lot of the game
Or destroyer since they do no dps anyway
If yearning never existed in the first place. People will never know the benefits of it. And how it affects certain engravings
you'd also need things like either infinite pots or at least double the capacity
if yearning never existed rc would be another engrave added to the list of basically dead engravings
becuase a lot of classes depend on yearning to cap mspd
Double the carrying limit to compensate
Should be good enough
also doubling the limit doesnt really help people on ilvl in squishy characters
sure if they have hands they probably can adjust
But then it's not that much to rework is there now.
but for the average player they are fucked
Oh yeah for sure, like doing akkan hm on ilvl
I just think people rely too much on supports.
removing supports is just
I'm thinking about doing content like Kay hm while overgeared
i mean without supports the entire gameplay falls apart
^
you cant greed damage
playing on ilvl is even more miserable, especially for the average player
u need supp he has dumb fucking bleed and chip dmg
you gatekeep 10x as hard
U think that. Because u already have supports. Like I said. if u didn't have supports In the first place. u would never know the beauty of it
?
I did clown a few weeks back with the Bois, slapped yearning on my zerk
if there werent supports and the game systems mostly remained the same
Was alright but everyone was almost 100 ilvl over
nobody would fucking play the game lmao

everyone would flame the system to death
when i was basically ilvl
They pigeon holed themselves into this corner
π€
Now sup are too important and there will always be a sup shortage
man
this primal island had no teams that i noticed
last circle was like 4 people with 10-20% hp and one guy with full hp tho
not having rosey with his 2 supp is rough
i liked disc priest in wow, back in mop ish where you could top dps by healing people spamming dps skills

@supple parrot do u have a supp? 
yes
Not lopang?
1600+

1600 spec he mean
i want winter to end
It barely even started bruh
central heating has heat cranked up too high
you know what would alleviate the support problem somewhat
i have to open the window like every 1-2 hours
But find yourself a static who all play at least 1 support. Then you're set
because it gets far too warm
if the game had bdo's tagging system
and it let you tag a support
but that will never happen because spending money to gear alts is a big chunk of SG's profits
People who have statics like that have a much better time than us pub enjoyers
Fr I'll be broke when I start getting 10s on my zerk
People who have statics. Doesn't enjoy having time wasted. Especially in pf
like ff14 has a tank/healer shortage also when you queue
but at least everyone can freely make a tank/healer job on the fly
also cant really gatekeep when gear is homogenized
statics come with their own problems
and the content for the average player is brain dead enough to be dragged through
if you have a sucky player you can't really replace them
Sure u can.
and you're basically turning the game into work
wdym you cant replace them
because now you have to play at xyz date and time
show up xyz minutes early blah blah blah
Why can't u replace them?
its only hard if it's someones girlfriend or whatever
because it's hard to find replacements
MVP screens need a participation trophy award
and statics usually become friends
And if you're doing dailies everyday and raid every week. That's already a job
I like my job to be done asap
Who likes doing 9-5
no it's not because you pick and choose when and what you wanna do
Yeah. Static should just be a bunch of people who value their time
i don't think you can really find a static if that's your attitude outside of like 10 people on a discord like this
because you'd constantly have to get new people into it since others leave or get kicked
Statics can be anything, they can have different goals, different rate of progressions, different attitudes
You find a static that suites your needs

if people wanted to raid together with friends, they'd do that
they join a static because they want a likeminded group of similarly skilled players to clear content
it's not about raiding together "with friends" but you make new friends
not to carry people who increasingly become a liability and waste everyone else's time
how the hella re you gonna know they're similarly skilled
and where are you gonna find these skilled supports?
that you can actually kick and replace old supports
in any raiding game, any semi serious static is going to tell you that you need to go if you can't keep up by a meaningful margin
True
i've never seen that with statics, i've seen that with raiding guilds
Aren't they the same thing
but they rarely uphold their own standards and it inevitably falls apart since people quit/become inactive
or some guild drama
i wouldn't say they're the same thing exactly
at least when looking at guilds from many other games i've played
most people have separate groups they play with
They are the same thing. It applies to real life as well
no
friends that they can fuck around with and do non-serious content
most people pug
and a static/better friends they do serious content with
alright, the people who actually group up for content
nobody is obligated to carry your handsless corpse to a clear
thats y i hate statics
goodbye
People who pug. Are either people who like the convenience of doing it whenever they want. Or they can't make friends. Or not skilled enough to join a more serious static
Very unfortunate
what's wrong with soul eater
i don't think it has much to do with skill
Nothing. Just that I prefer to have her as a 7th character on main
that's also why you complain about getting jailed in g4 brel
at least not gameplay skill

Idk about others but for me it's the convenience
Instead of js with no skill points or wealth
most players are never gonna be in a position to ever even join such a group
u do too
Idk like strict starting times when I have to do 20 raids a a week
because nobody would know if they are or aren't good enough
less than you
imma pug destroyer
u done?
I was about to say the same thing
Even most statics can't schedule that
it's all a clique thing with "nepotism"
i can come db
My static consists of like the 2 friends that brought me into the game and another person we friended in game
So far that's been enough

It's enough for the most aids raid, kakul, sometimes kayangel
well even if that were the case
major drawbacks lo
one of the issues is still that you're never gonna meet the "serious statics" people
because they're in a "serious static" and you're not
it's basically like real life
My problem with statics is how fucked up of a schedule I'm forced into because of scheduled power outages
after you're done with school you don't make friends as much
Finding people that are online after 6 pm in my time is ruff
mostly because you aren't put into the same room with a lot of new people
not being able to make friends in somewhere as easy as an online game is literally your own problem
Just make friends online
barring crippling social anxiety or something
i was using it as an analogy
It's just a matter of how u communicate
because whether you like it or not that's what happens in real life
how did people manage to play games like Ultima Online back in the day
they didn't
snowball react
games "back in the day" had nowhere near the popularity games do now
yes
Unlike lost ark
before the increased popularity of 3rd party communication apps
0 social interaction
but that's because the game had a much higher barrier to entry
computers were new stuff
internet was new stuff
you were forced to participate in the ingame community if you wanted to get anywhere
but you might also consider that
and millions of people did that just fine
they died off because they were old?
There are like 2 types of people that don't talk in this game from my experience
- does 24 of the same raid every week, doesn't have time to talk
- doesn't know shit about mechs and will jail us
games like maplestory and runescape are 20 years old and still plenty alive
yes
WoW is still the most played MMO
but runescape also doesn't have this problem you're talking about
and on that note runescape had its record playercount like a few weeks ago
i think on EU there's an additional one
i don't know why, but EU Servers always have a lot of people that never talk for some reason
i dont like this game and i am in neither of those catagories
or when you do somehow coax them to talk it feels like they're completely out of it
that's also true
man fuck you
3rd type enjoys the skins
did you cancel it early?
if you wonder why lost ark is anti social
"if you cancel early no deposit refund"
There's this 6/0 neck I wanna snipe
its because this game's content doesnt facilitate socializing in game
nobody likes to talk in raids because it's a conduit to getting flamed especially if they do poorly
Ya well I was never one to be governed
fak da system
this game doesnt have other content, especially a vibrant open world, that facilitates socializing ingame
rest in pepper 10 shiny stones
Sometimes you find chill ppl that just wanna have a good time
well, the thing i said about EU
true the only chatting i see in raids is
r/y
b/y
cube l/t/r
...
and flaming
goes beyond lost ark
if even that
most games i play on EU servers are somehow like that
every brel exclusively we'll have one person not saying their shape
there's also no global chat
maybe it's a language barrier
for better or worse
but i see people on american servers just talk way way more
bdo plays even more single player than lost ark but it has server chat
if u can only speak russian speak russian so I can at least usse translate
and guilds arent as worthless as they are there than here
im in a french server and still manage to communicate to them that theyre the reason were missing an ark
I would argue, Lost Ark world is very static in nature. It's crazy how, there is no movement at all in the game unless you go outside the main areas where you see monsters and bandits aggroing you
my condolences

the developers don't know what Math.random() is
what the fucck is wrong with my c key
Some would rather ping instead of typing ig ?
once upon a time they had a wise Sage come along that implemented their honing system with random
Safe spot
but the Sage never enlightened the rest of them to the value of randomness
to make a world feel more alive
have you ever played system 32 roulette?
Aggressivelly ping or be quiet until two wipes where they start talking shitt
i don't know what that is
its not the lack of randomness in the world that makes the game more alive
it's that the game lacks an actual open world
yeah it is
well open world is part of it
but the behaviors of monsters, the way life skills work etc
all of that is extremely static in this game
the meat of the game revolves around dailies and raids
it's as though it's all developed for a set recipe
Like, we have sea right? Different types of seas with their own nature. When was the last time I actually did something in the seas?
the open world might as well be useless
you basically tell your pc to pick a number from like 1-6/10/20/100 and if it picks the right number it deletes system 32
that sounds dumb
its funny
it's not a sandbox that you can actually explore like BDO
but when i talk about randomness, i'm not talking about just rolling random numbers
or an open world with plenty of pve meta-events that people group up to do like GW2
i'm talking about stuff like procedural map layouts
linear game
procedural npc activities, procedural quests of some extent
like keep the daily system the way it is
Everyone logs in and straight to PF
pick 5 random dailies that give 50-100% more rewards
and this rotates every few days
now people will discover other dailies than their set 3 as well
that doesnt make the game more alive
well it makes people explore
what the fuck is there to explore in this game?
So much
the game doesnt have an expansive, deep open world
I complain all the time about how beautiful Lost Ark is in 3D mode
But it's wasted
Small indie company
lost ark has about as much to explore as diablo 4
where is my summoner buff!!@!lsjdf
susge
Here
u got more?
hanu? yea i got slayer i think
ok i got se
slayer is so broken lol
The places people visit the most in lost ark. Is the blacksmith in every city. And that's it 
lost ark's world is plenty big
Is she
you just never have any reason to go to like 90% of places
especially after you're done with quests
Predator or punisher @supple parrot
i mean lv7 gems slayer does same or more dmg as lv10 gem zerker. how is this ok 
no its the honing guy
no one visits blacksmith
fr
Isn't that the blacksmith
Arthetine is actually a good place

but wasted
In a guardian raid?
Pleccia is also beautiful
you ok?
you would think that you could go visit those places to do life skilling
since less competition, yeah?
turns out that you can't
its strong in legion raids too 
because smilegate made it so you get less resources when you life skill in those continents
because fk u
Do Kay nm on them and compare their parses, then I'll agree with you 
jump start was actually funny
you saw soooooooo many slayers
almost no zerkers
only slayers
also no sorcs or gunslingers or summoners or strikers
the time will come for GS to shine again
KR gatekeeps gs in thaemine
now jump start is mostly
soul eater alts, slayers, artists, aeromancers and some deathblades
π¦
but how come sorc had such a big fall from grace
Oh no he parsed 28m in Legion raid trixion!!!
she'll get a rework soon hopefully
the class barely got nerfed
Ok 6x pinnacle main
and now is getting buffed higher than before
Utility
Bringing only burst dmg ain't gonna cut it
even hunger reaper books are more expensive than sorc books
Cause sorcs are trash and need a rework
how is that even a comparison lol
So do summoners
@true tartan how was ur date with kae
nightmare, ask him @gleaming pendant

i would rather emperor arcana's evoke get addressed than sorc
Didn't u guys just go to eat
at least some embers, 2 purple selectors, pretty good
we went for a lil drinking session too

I'm just memeing
Nova bojio
we had to carry a sandbag home
^
Sandbag?


But why
i did this for kae, kae wants to get laid
Nova carried 1 bag while u carried 4?
HUH
HUH



Just hook him up with one of your wife's gf
True
too drunk, kae said he cant do it
Was never my intention 
i mean the target is too drunk*
where did you hide the body
on the street
its kinda weird it didn't get nerfed at all, straight untouched
i dont remember how much i did on lopang zerker but slayer was doin 7mil+
then what do you mean by "had to carry them"
she's getting buffed next patch
smilegate thinks slayer is balanced okk
balanced cuz popularity
just as good as summoner ok
said person is dead drunk, literally have to lift her home
se is even more broken tho 
which build
cause i haven't seen that kind of damage from them compared to predator
but i mostly see full moons
couldn't feel my arms ever since that day
im playin 413 
how much dps in sonavel should you see to think they are op
Only pumper SE's I have seen were the ones at 1580+, I've seen both engravings pump
Depends on ilvl, I haven't seen any of them there
19m as 1590 

Maybe I should replace sorc with se
im 1600, i do 26
But like north of 14mil at 1580
Holy shit
not broken at all
Spec or crit
balanced class 
hes 413
Time to ditch sorc
413 is prob the strongest build


it was inevitable
Why would you play Sorc when you can play SE
413 is nights edge?
How much weaker is 422
yes, nights edge
From the porn I watched before. I knew exactly where they led to
i dont know
@rare quartz ask kae about it, idk
There is absolutely no reason other than thematic
kae might u-turn back after i left

im guessing like 10% weaker?

Sorc's spells loook nicer but don't hit as hard

wrekk says 422 is 20% weaker
Sorc synergizes worse with support and atropine

but i dont believe him
That's what I saw from some parses

Sorc has worse quality of life
Wrekk just randomly throw numbers out
Sorc is like that skeleton under water meme
i would sayit depends on gem
It's harder to gear sorc because se can use RC
if u have higher level CD gems, 413 is better
Did u bring her to your place? Or the hotel?
i THINK, i myself havent tested it
I feel like NE is stronger leh

TO HER OWN HOUSE
i mean meta is moving towards consistant dps, so i believe its true too lol
Based on the numbers I've heard I've had this impression too but I barely see NEs in game
Tai Scrapper with Z

pred slayers
even with the performance now, NE seems better than FM
now NE SE
Let us take atro and timestop
And DISH 
i mean, i believe with right composition and atros, bursty class is still stronger
Proper EU build
nerf zerker
With NESW
the longer the fight is, the better sustain is
stims atmost.

Statics that have a NM sorc with 2 crit synn setup 
I once saw someone call tiles on brell with NE, NW, SE, SW
@supple parrot yea, but tbh, even the hardest content to us now is homework
so, what fight is ''long'' exactly lol
Hkkange

If burst patterns get short then some burst classes like sorc suffer too
hard akkan is burst class meta tho lol
For example G2 akkan start
u eat all the pie and u meter gen while he is doing mech in DR
Sorc's burst at ilvl will frequently take longer than the damage window is
i mean, if we are comparing with pugs , we'll be saying aeromancer is S tier at this point
Kaeβs aero pump 
She seemed to land close to trixion uptime
Yea, his aero does dmg thats for sure
but compared to those said ''op'' classes
its still a joke
He only has 15 lvl 10s on her thats why


Why is she called soul eater if she doesn't eat any souls
fake news

its the only edgy name that comes to mind
its a high floor low ceiling class 
I like how u casually said it like it s smt normal 
Yea, we are always talking ceiling no?
Its normal for rich ppl like kae and nova their power passes come with lvl 10s 
What's the highest ceiling class

not me


if its dmg, i believe the 2 newest class tbh lol

Aren't the two newest classes SE and aero?
Slayer/se
Also those are the 2 newest classes
aero KEKW
Lol
jesus pls give me silver fate embers
Slayer/se are the most recent
in KR yes

Yeah and KR is what matters
in our version, aero later because (?)
Ngl i feel like slayer in the same conditions etc etc is WAY stronger than SE
itβs disgusting
512k silver, rich people issue
Well yeah
Bc slayer is fucking brain dead
Entropy ceiling too
They needed more time to censor the skins but then gave up
Se actually takes a few brain cells
idk, i dint play slayer but i can see it being dumb strong
its so stupidly strong like
Se floor is giga low bro i be seeing 1580s doing like 4mil lmao
they totally gave up, look at the summer skins lol
Effortlessly strong 
It s lowkey mash keyboard ez dps
Less effort ez dps
I think part of the reason why slayer performs so well is that she can output her damage quickly
Specialist
There's no setup or anything
there is some awkwardness in the early phase of g1 akkan and kaya g3 where the fatigue on slayer can screw you oever
@uncut dirge Yes, the new classes dont really have any setups
So if the boss shows back even for a second slayer blasts
PLS LORD, GIVE ME 2M SILVER FATE EMBERS
unlike the old ones
- swift brutal impact does basically as much as spec brutal
xdddd
PLS @hidden jay
''ready atk'' bullshit LOL
And this let's her get hits in while others can't
they are slowly moving away from it tho
recent GL got their ready atk removed and spread the dmg across skills
+swift class that has 80+ crit rate
like what scrapper gotten last year

Like as a sorc you gotta predict wtf Tienis does and wait to make sure he starts the animation
Itβs 90+ isnβt it
On slayer you just press button
i mean that doesnt rly matter. if u never screwed by fatigue at all it would be even more insane 
Tienis is a fking shit boss, we dont include him
Usually yes but my slayer doesnβt crit so i lowered it to 80

Crit ring 
Hell build frfr
Hell nah
zerker still have it 
1800 or swift or i look ugly like kaeβs SF
In my opinion tienis symbolizes more recent bosses
wow im so good
Where they just randomly move for no reason
Hmm?
Yea, they are slowly moving away from it, at least u guys got 2 sec duration more
look at summoners
Which build do you recommend
Nopers
you'll feel the satisfaction
I do
Iβve seen
Truge
Are u rmter ? 
A whole 3 full moon players that do the same dmg as me
if u like those button smashing classes, go NE
But I'm curious which build @urban obsidian is talking about
they should enable speed hacks for summoner to make it more balanced in the next patch
And all 3 of them have full 10s

yes 
Full moon is dogshit lowkey
its dmg not so good
Look, if you want to play summoner, then go play path of Exile
Bro nova is it true rosey left mid fight with pugs to cook a steak ?

I never see full moon seβs that do dmg lmao

Come back once you're sick of pets
i can't afford full investment into the class, it is what it is
that happened to chuan and zheng, not me HAHAHA
Lol wa 

but i can cfm he disappears every once in awhile
Actually a troll
I do damage on my SE but it's not really overwhelming
i was not there that day
the first time i did clown with wrekk
Whatβs dmg
And one of our supports mentioned that he just gatekeeps them because they deal no damage
and i was trapped , his mouse ran out of batt too
Iβve seen fm ses do 4mil

he didnt leave
he just went afk in the middle
Rip
While Iβm doing 2-3x that dmg with 7s
other pugs got mad and left
Rosey moment
Apparently he once put yellow mid tile cuz he went to get his ram delivery or some shit 

Bro wiped the raid
Lmfaoooo
Are we getting new GR with voldike?
classic wrekk
this was wrekk
worst thing is i remember the ram doesnt fit too
Yeah xd
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

wrekk also stopped moving cuz his keyboard ran out of batteries
and dropped meteor mid
and wiped us
in brel
Why didn't he alt+f4 and say he got dcd
@supple parrot I SWEAR ITS ALWAYS THAT THOSE MOMENTS
Man this is content istg
Wireless keyboard has to be the biggest meme
imagine urself trapped in g3 clown , him supposing to save u stands there
Yet
WIRELESS KEYBOARD 
then he would get stuck if rest of the team cleared
Bro has wireless monitor too 
hey at the very least, wrekk admits he suck
I think its time to do my lopang chaos
Ur reaper is 1620 no need for silver

mr nova ask me to hone more 1600s
silver gated 
i am f2p

that one legit
cannot
no shards no leaps
i switch to aero for you
but aku no silver
cb

yea he did
He is a dog
Bro using streamer client
βIts freeβ


20 taps in total
i wanna play with memo
to 19

its so free
only 90 more for pity
I need to hone 22 on my se fr
13 was 3 tap
14 was 1
15 was 1
16 was 4
17 was 3
18 was 1
19 was 7
Frr
Are you down bad for silver? o.o
that's how much taps i took
Need that red glow for her bro
YES
Do your cubes
I do have spare tickets but i was keeping them
for weekly resets
how many event tokens do you have?

save 3 characters next reset ill do a 2c with your strongest character if you get me through with 2 3cs
for brel π
LUCIE
lol
I DO HAVE 80K TOKENS
lol
you right
thats 8mil silver
Whats your ilvl on main
Nice life bro
1620
how?
how much gold u have, those can be traded for silver too
doing chaos?
dont remind me
I am f2p, I don't do zheng way, sorry
gta 6?
Yes
Respectfully
2025 console, not PC
like 20 a day?


Oh wow
@gleaming pendant Did u gamba yoz jar. Like at all?
why
Crystal can trade silver
i did a few times for fun la, but never once got it
oh i traded them for pheons
He doesnt want u to turn up looking f2p to his voldis obviously

LOL
nova has legendaries on all his chars
not very f2p
I'm not doing with kae for vold
Clasic
You know the free ones we got from ark pass? I got a legendary weapon from them xD
DIE
classic white knight
On his scrapper he probs wearing double legendary to assert dominance
Event shop is closing tomorrow ? Or next week
Next week
Ok ty
me too but i cant sell it
it will always be open in your heart
I'm not. U mad LOL

yea its not.

are you d-
Bruh wtf
DUH
I cant i wanna raid on my slayer
he sold his 2nd set of leg to fund his SE +25

Same bro
Bro has 2 25s ?
I heard you're funding lvl 9s for our slayers

yes
Kae trying to be like chuan. Spreading lies
Sorry I meant 10s
another day another slay
My slayer has 9s already
Only if u give me ur unbounds cuz 1610 is looking like a distant dream rn

WOW AERO SSO STRONG
SETSURA
YOU GOTTA 1V1 CHUAN
SONAVEL
when?
ill have u know the reaper was 1610
just 20 taps your weapon to 19, will save you a lot off leaps
how about we befriend nova for some 10s

He hands them out for free when hes drunk kae said
They can be 1655. If they stand there and don't click button , same result
I will 20 taps u

not the drunk incident


you guys went to orchard tower afterward?
Kae gave my SE some 10s. Said I deal not enough damage
Hes toxic like that i belib
still need?

i do
got spare one
How about you give my slayer some 10s to make up for lack of los 30

Btw did u swap to the new tai build? More swift with RC and adr 1 ?
If you're single. Kae is up for that, los30 sponsored too
you no los30?
wtf
My scrap is always swift oriented
u dont give me enough credit smh
bro your tai does no damage, pls don't scar the world
Shes taken 
I used my selections on lwc honestly the biggest mistake ever, despite having 4 supps I still regret it
Bro everytime i play tai
I heal the boss
am a good citizen
I don't give credit to people who won strangers hahahaha. Not just u

nova knows aero does damage
not my other friend aero tho

You mean shock is clunky
Tai is smooth
Having said that, I deleted my tai scrapper

knows as in good or bad


its bad but im good at consistently hitting my skills
I mean he seen my WF at least.
tho I don't think aero is good in my opinion
trash ceiling
Tai is clunky..?
yea trash cieling
btw my SE has unlucky moment too :(

the better ur hands the closer u can get to trixion dps

The chances of u pressing 25 on serk is probably higher
wdym
if u pity i could 1 tap all the way to 25

its possible
i have enuf bound to 1 tap all the way to 25 
wait you not gonna go +25 se?

Stable Ronaldo Vibing On Maroon 5 Payphone
bro i don't even have 1
U deserved to pity everything to 1600 with that wep luck
not really
all my chars uses lvl 7
and 9s
can't count it as full 10

All his alt combined has atleast 8 gems each
10s*




heres mine

still gonna do more dps than u
I have full 10s on my demonic
"full"
That's cope
Best case scenario is 500k, worst case is mils
wait thats not bad right



how you have sidereal gems
Too late
by office do you mean the massage parlor
Rm Ter plekke












