#lost-ark-discussions
violet finch
cursive ruin
At what point during rapport can I initiate the sex
cunning mesa
no 1-3 group looking for supp, sad
uncut dirge
that's the goal for thaemine?
violet finch
issa been done
uncut dirge
issa been done
you have a 1650?!
cunning mesa
violet finch
lament vortex
you have a 1650?!
You dont?
violet finch
There's more
still lintel
what a great kay run
a support that doesnt know g2 skip and thinks its a troll
and a dps that insist on doing it but doesnt know timing
uncut dirge
a support that doesnt know g2 skip and thinks its a troll
g2 skip?
still lintel
you ignore the first mech and then shield and tank the aoe hit
valid turtle
uncut dirge
i do not understand this one
valid turtle
uncut dirge
it is literally THE EASIEST MECH
valid turtle
fuck
nova garden
Fish went down to 105g today.
still lintel
yh and being afk is easier
shadow sonnet
dont worry all the new players are real players and not bots 
valid turtle
dont worry all the new players are real players and not bots <:mokokoThumbsup:96...
Since you are Jeff Bozo I trust you
shadow sonnet
Since you are Jeff Bozo I trust you
make sure to buy more skins while you wait 10 years for supports to apply to akkan normal
cunning mesa
i think i need lwc 30 
valid turtle
make sure to buy more skins while you wait 10 years for supports to apply to akk...
ofc my leige
uncut dirge
they should sell supports in the cash shop
shadow sonnet
if you have deep dive 30 you prob get gatekept with that more than LOS18 or KLC 18
teal herald
imagine not having los 30 
going to be a really quick 1-3 brel nm
tardy tusk
Support privileges 
tardy tusk
i spent 10 + mins in party finder
only? 
dusk storm
Wait why 1600 doing Normal Brel
cunning mesa
it was rough
tardy tusk
Wait why 1600 doing Normal Brel
chill.
cunning mesa
Wait why 1600 doing Normal Brel
to help me have a fast clear, obviously 
tardy tusk
faster
still lintel
uncut dirge
how many card select packs can we buy from the various shops and npcs in arkesia?
still lintel
not enough
dusk storm
Too many
shadow sonnet
<a:HappyShawnJump:1097333879670579271>
where is this, kayangel?
still lintel
kay g2
still lintel
would be easier to just do the mech
not rly 
but both artillerist and artist had to be difficult
dusk storm
shadow sonnet
<a:HappyShawnJump:1097333879670579271>
people like that should be perma banned lol
the guy flaming
queen grail
Wait why 1600 doing Normal Brel
Because It's chill 
dusk storm
Hm is chill
still lintel
guess im stuck g3 kay on this char for the week
queen grail
Hm is chill
Sure, if everyone has hands, but, often they don't.
shadow sonnet
guess im stuck g3 kay on this char for the week
it was legit easier for me to buy a kayangel normal bus to gurantee myself the box than go through the effort doing it naturally
i spend 6k on the box with randoms
kayangel NM bus was 8k gold with box guranteed to me
teal herald
Sure, if everyone has hands, but, often they don't.
i forgot to check necks 
still lintel
who cares aboutbox tho
supple parrot
<a:HappyShawnJump:1097333879670579271>
Huh? So u want him to cheese the mech. He says no do the mech and neither of u want to do what the other says and just disband?
still lintel
no we killed it
its right pic first then left
he died after the mech cus we wanted to be a baby
and we killed the boss
shadow sonnet
if someone starts flaming i insta afk and quit idc
supple parrot
dull obsidian
a support that doesnt know g2 skip and thinks its a troll
g2 skip in kaya?
18x skip?
still lintel
first mech
supple parrot
I mean skip is pointless. Can’t skip in hm. And most ppl don’t even run nm 
still lintel
on normal mode
dull obsidian
oh
uncut dirge
he doesn't want to rotate counte rclockwise a few times
supple parrot
It’s not rly skip
uncut dirge
alaric G2 all over again
high fog
It’s just like
uncut dirge
yesterday when i did G2
uncut dirge
i accidentally sruvived it as a paladin
dull obsidian
@supple parrot we're becoming Elgacia afk dancers
supple parrot
<@204004021244133376> we're becoming Elgacia afk dancers
dull obsidian
uncut dirge
hey
what happens if you have mokoko buff and crisis evasion and hit 0 hp
do both proc at the same time or does only one proc?
dull obsidian
you can't hit 0 hp
teal herald
<@204004021244133376> we're becoming Elgacia afk dancers
where males
still lintel
right there
still lintel
dull obsidian
cunning mesa
nothing better than skipping 3rd color mech and second gray star on brel g3 
on a 1500 char
still lintel
you bought a good bus
cunning mesa
you bought a good bus
no, i applied to a decent group
cunning mesa
you bursted it from 58 -> 0
yeah
teal herald
1600 party 
cunning mesa
group average was like 1580-1590
cunning mesa
my party was weaker though i had the only 1560 dps
else it was easy radiant angle
and got chest for 50 gold 
my honing luck is still absolutely terrible though
dim lark
my bard has 4 pieces at 50% rn
rookie level
dim lark
frail holly
when do i throw my bomb so we can skip
cunning mesa
what raid we talking about
frail holly
it doesn't matter my bomb should be be hitting 1b
cunning mesa
still lintel
????
cunning mesa
it doesn't matter my bomb should be be hitting 1b
teach me your secrets 
my biggest so far has been 500m i think
cunning mesa
im missing the prayers 
teal herald
cunning mesa
nice, my aero got group in seconds
frail holly
what's a normal dps value in sonavel
midnight lightBOT
high fog
11-20m
cunning mesa
bad start
frail holly
so like why my soulfist auto accept and slayer auto decline is it because my slayer is only level 2 set and 1580
high fog
Prob the lvl 2 set
frail holly
ancient tundra
frail holly
my soulfist only 1586
high fog
Also could be gem diff
frail holly
yea my soulfist level 9s
high fog
I think by 1580 ppl start like expecting to see a handful of 9s
cunning mesa
the other bard died in wolves jailge
high fog
Been slowly giving my alts a 9 or 2 for lobby appeal xD
dim lark
i wonder if i can lvl ul only from dailys
teal herald
nerf sf 
dull obsidian
If they nerf soulfist
they buff DB
RE DB another 8%
and I'll be satisifed
still lintel
rework scrapper 
frail holly
soulfist is op
but soulfist = slayer
frail holly
u mean buff punisher
nova garden
Buff slayer abs
urban obsidian
@ roxx where server transfers
wintry depot
never
urban obsidian
wintry depot
stay on your dead server
urban obsidian
wintry depot
teal herald
NA dead
cedar zealot
RE DB another 8%
Nerf RE
cunning mesa
this group is giga jailge 
cedar zealot
naw just buff punisher
Buff zerk
teal herald
time for g1-g4
wintry depot
imagine doing raids on a monday
cedar zealot
Frfr
teal herald
cyberpunk > 
cedar zealot
zerk top 6
You have been too busy and not getting enough rest it seems
It's clouding your judgement
frail holly
scouter top 8?
cedar zealot
Reflux top 22
queen grail
TURBO!
still lintel
better than putting skip in the titel
teal herald
turbo jail
teal herald
EO Soulfist -> Arcanist -> Glaiver -> Slayer = Sharpshooter
evo > everything
dull obsidian
dude
wintry depot
evo trash
teal herald
frail holly
EO Soulfist -> Arcanist -> Glaiver -> Slayer = Sharpshooter
i forgot arcanist was top 4
urban obsidian
how many splendid hp pots is it per craft
frail holly
and sharpshooter was a class
urban obsidian
does anyone know
teal herald
EO Soulfist -> Arcanist -> Glaiver -> Slayer = Sharpshooter
nerf everyone buff scouter
dull obsidian
Nerf this
main knot
people on NAE who do this are always from alebaran server
urban obsidian
wadafuq
dull obsidian
Aldebaran = Turbo DPS
urban obsidian
nah bro thats crazy
dull obsidian
urban obsidian
frail holly
and ss?
teal herald
<@357164983622172672>
+25 slayer
frail holly
sharp shooter
queen grail
+25 slayer
Free-tapping to 25 for sure.
frail holly
but aeros don't do dps
teal herald
<:COPIUM:875701734771679282> Free-tapping to 25 for sure.
hone with bounds
only 5 years 
queen grail
hone with bounds
https://youtu.be/sro50cjCaVA?si=7u3HjOhvPJXSSCWX Time to relax with some music 
I got scammed on an item btw @teal herald 
100 Quality Swiftness +6 Magic stream and +3 trash, If it was VPH/Expert/Awak it would be money
frail holly
how much ilevel for thaemine again
teal herald
I got scammed on an item btw <@357164983622172672> <:Sadge:882711949668937748> 1...
find me neck
queen grail
find me neck <:starege:1013232833453629510>
You find me neck 
and ring for my Artist to make 5x3+1
wintry depot
artist 5x3 +1
queen grail
Freetap.
wintry depot
4x3 2x2 better
frail holly
or 5x3+2
teal herald
You find me neck <:Weirdga:905213052276862986> and ring for my Artist to make 5x...
+2
frail holly
artists needs +2
queen grail
4x3 2x2 better
I don't need the +2 SA, she's already fluid enough.
frail holly
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> I don't need the +2 SA, she's already fluid enough...
ur wrong
wintry depot
wrong
queen grail
Maybe you guys are just bad? 
frail holly
no you're objectively wrong
stuck adder
Need pity hone badly
queen grail
I'm objectively right in how I feel she plays.
wintry depot
she feels way better on sa2
queen grail
frail holly
artist on SA2 was how she was meant to be played
still lintel
SA on swift class 
wintry depot
its sooo good
queen grail
So much better that only 3 of the 7 Esther users in KR uses It
Almost like there are other builds too.
teal herald
wintry depot
who cares about kr lol
teal herald
pepega army
frail holly
So much better that only 3 of the 7 Esther users in KR uses It <:Weirdga:9052130...
kr players switched too
but if they have 9/7 they'd have to rebuild
teal herald
imagine not having 9/7
queen grail
kr players switched too
wintry depot
and?
frail holly
oh wow it's almost as if it's a 6TH ENGRAVING
wintry depot
doesnt mean it doesnt feel good playing sa2
frail holly
wintry depot
with my ping, it feels way better than without it
queen grail
oh wow it's almost as if it's a 6TH ENGRAVING
"6'th" Engraving, It's just a 5x3+1 build using a 7/7 stone to make 4x+3+2+2 but not many people run it, It's solid if you want to make it feel fluid or have "better animations" but I've never had any issues with her animations.
dull obsidian
queen grail
I like my HA3 and I'll stick to that.
frail holly
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> "6'th" Engraving, It's just a 5x3+1 build using a ...
i guarantee you not many people run it because they didn't even know it existed or was possible
cunning mesa
why does raid leader have to go to toilet
wintry depot
ha3 is gay
queen grail
i guarantee you not many people run it because they didn't even know it existed ...
Ok, that's cope as heck, It's not secret tech at all.
It's a well known build since release of Artist in EU/NA and longer in KR.
cunning mesa
ha3 is gay
then im gayge af
teal herald
who cares about +2 on supp
queen grail
then why are KR players only now switching to SA 2
"Only now" you got anything to back up that there suddently is a large spike in people going SA2? And you would have to ask them why they swapped, maybe they wanted a build for their ping, maybe they are done with prog and don't care about the HA/CE anymore.
left sierra
As long as you don't run HA
wintry depot
queen grail
bro said tech been out for years but is only now being used by top players
A tech being out does not mean everyone is going to flock to it
left sierra
6 engrave gifachad
frail holly
A tech being out does not mean everyone is going to flock to it <:Weirdga:905213...
that literally proves my point tho
wintry depot
except theres not a big dif between ha2 and ha3
dim lark
why would u need spirit absorption
queen grail
that literally proves my point tho
Not really, lots of people don't give a fuck about the animation "improvment" because they have no issues with it.
wintry depot
because her animations are longer than pala and bard
queen grail
Her animations are fine, not sure why people harp on it.
wintry depot
it feels better playing with sa2
left sierra
Build barricade and crisis evasion 🤓
frail holly
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> Not really, lots of people don't give a fuck about...
yea lots of people in NA dropped artist too
left sierra
Artist best sup...
queen grail
yea lots of people in NA dropped artist too
Well, sucks for them.
wintry depot
no you dont NEED sa2, but it feels great to play with it
teal herald
artist best supp
dull obsidian
SA 2 just helps artist cap attack speed
frail holly
where as artist is the highest played in KR
wintry depot
its just min-maxing
queen grail
its just min-maxing
"Min-maxing for people that need the animation speed"
teal herald
where as artist is the highest played in KR
kid
wintry depot
yea min-maxing for peple that prefer faster animations
playing without its fine, playing with its fine
its jst the feel
queen grail
where as artist is the highest played in KR
I mean, people just like the ayaya more in KR I guess, doesn't she have a pretty bad stigma in NA also?
At least that's how the forum looked like when she was released.
queen grail
My g3 Brel is crashing
frail holly
bro artist didn't even have these costumes on release, people in the west are just full degenerates
queen grail
But for me, that 8% atk-spd is nice for sure, but she already has almost 1800 swift and is plenty fluid I'll rather get the 5x3+1 build for max surivability to do dumbass plays 
uncut dirge
it had popularity when people had free engravings and once they were gone they stopped
uncut dirge
if you dont like playing support you dont like playing support
uncut dirge
they all play almost the same anyway
dull obsidian
wintry depot
they do
queen grail
Does gunslingers not have enough stagger for Kaya g3 60x mech ?
They do.
frail holly
artist is the "best" support tho?
teal herald
i forgot los
frail holly
artist players just can't play the easy class
queen grail
Artist just is the "worst" support
That's just wrong, on a lot of fights Artist are the best out of the 3
wintry depot
artist is the "best" support tho?
no thats pala
dull obsidian
Artist has objectively the worst rhapsody skill, shield is a fucking skill shot and hopper takes too long to cast
left sierra
Pala sucks
uncut dirge
paladin is the best support
left sierra
Artist best on demand heals and dmg
wintry depot
still best support to prog
dull obsidian
Paladin is best general support
uncut dirge
but that's because paldin doesn't force your ranged to stand in a stupid circle
cunning mesa
steals my g3 blue orb (the one that prevents petrify) and doesnt bother liberating me so i die
frail holly
paladin is the best support to play without hands
wintry depot
and bard best for hw
queen grail
Artist has objectively the worst rhapsody skill, shield is a fucking skill shot ...
Hopper is fast enough, the shield is MASSIVE so goodluck missing that frequent and rhapsody? I don't even use that on G2/3 on my bard even.
dull obsidian
Bard is better for burst healing + burst dmg
uncut dirge
whereas artist and bard force your ranged to all stand in one place
dawn yacht
queen grail
Artist has better flexibility between quickheal/buff in succession.
frail holly
Artist has objectively the worst rhapsody skill, shield is a fucking skill shot ...
artist has 4 shields literally skill issue
queen grail
Better cleanse than paladin.
dull obsidian
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> Hopper is fast enough, the shield is MASSIVE so go...
The rhapsody and the skillshot shield is why shes not being played in Thaemine atm
frail holly
frail holly
yes 4
dull obsidian
Hopper counts as 3
frail holly
no ur wrong
dull obsidian
but it doesn't stack
queen grail
The rhapsody and the skillshot shield is why shes not being played in Thaemine a...
Ye, she's not a good progress support on hard fights, but on other fights she shines.
dull obsidian
its pretty much just 1
frail holly
hopper sprinkle starry portal
dull obsidian
starry night is shit lmao
queen grail
And that's fine, you should have some difference between supports or they are all just borring.
wintry depot
nobody uses portal
uncut dirge
i would use portal but
wintry depot
except for akkan g3
queen grail
nobody uses portal
I do, and I've seen team members do.
frail holly
u drop tiger cuz u don't need it
wintry depot
<:Weirdga:905213052276862986> I do, and I've seen team members do.
ok rarely
queen grail
What do you drop to take starry
Counter / Shield / Stagger, depends on the fight.
dull obsidian
?
uncut dirge
you go to portal: 50/50 if the game gives you an error or lets you use it
hidden jay
But ma stagger
dull obsidian
Tigers is 2 destruction + high stagger
frail holly
naw you're stagger still fine
dull obsidian
depends on the fight ig
frail holly
u can use paint orchids and counter for destruction
uncut dirge
paladin is the best
charred void
you play paladin paired with sustain dps and bard with burst dps and gunlancer, artist skill kit is bad and needs a rework since its only half/half good at both
uncut dirge
damage skill has built in damage reduction
another damage reduction area on the ground
identity has damage reduction
heals without using identity
dull obsidian
Well yeh
uncut dirge
almost perfect class
dull obsidian
Its the best general use support
queen grail
Paladin has no burst heal, you need to be on point with God's law and you have no push immunity.
uncut dirge
no booba though so into the trash it goes
queen grail
All supports have weakness.
charred void
check party comp first thaemine kill
frail holly
All supports have weakness.
artist has no weakness
dull obsidian
its all bards
dull obsidian
artist has no weakness
she has the weakest attack power buff
frail holly
what's artist weakness? the skill issue?
dull obsidian
the worst rhapsody
supple parrot
Paladin has lower buff ceiling than the other 2 sups. Otherwise it would be the best by far
dull obsidian
its not aimable
dull obsidian
also ye
frail holly
or sprinkle them
dull obsidian
sunwell radius is low as fuck
hidden jay
Pally got no boobs so its not really appealing, bard is the best
frail holly
sunwell radius is low as fuck
skill issue
teal herald
brel without los
queen grail
what's artist weakness? the skill issue?
Honestly a bad god's law / Rhapsody, and conditional heal Is two problems I would think for some fights.
hidden jay
Need a 4th support
dull obsidian
if you have hit masters
you're not landing sunwell
unless they're willingly gonna run in
if you're melee its fine
supple parrot
Artist weakness is that u might get raided by fbi
hidden jay
Make a martial artist support 
supple parrot
queen grail
I mean, I main all supports, so I like them all, but I'm not going to say that they all are perfect with no flaws
frail holly
if you have hit masters
u don't need to have 100% uptime on sunwell tho
dull obsidian
ranged characters have the perk of being "far" from the boss so they're generally more safe
uncut dirge
unless they're willingly gonna run in
Ranged usually don't have the mobility to safely use sunwell regularly
dull obsidian
yeh
supple parrot
I mean, I main all supports, so I like them all, but I'm not going to say that t...
Not a single 1600 wdym u main all sups
dull obsidian
sonic vibration has the same problem
uncut dirge
Sunwell is basically "boss, please attack in this direction"
queen grail
1590 artist <:WeirdPaper:1034716538214821888>
Aren't you 1600 on your scouter?
dull obsidian
but its range is slightly bigger
frail holly
i sunwell the melees
dim lark
Not a single 1600 wdym u main all sups <:HUH:1012917714706235472>
can u like stfu
supple parrot
can u like stfu
queen grail
Not a single 1600 wdym u main all sups <:HUH:1012917714706235472>
We can't all have "friends" that sends us millions a month for "payment or other services" Ok, so chill rich boy, I'm getting full Akkan gear and slowrolling it.
teal herald
Aren't you 1600 on your scouter? <:monkaHmm:852993226285776897>
1600 is free
frail holly
gunslinger arcanist sorc
teal herald
just ask chuan
dull obsidian
yeh
hidden jay
can u like stfu
Put him in his place
uncut dirge
Where is female paladin
frail holly
easy shields and buffs
still lintel
1shot g4? 
supple parrot
just ask chuan
it’s only free on main. Alts are struggling to get there
queen grail
goodluck playing artist with 3 hitmasters
I mean, they won't have buff for a few seconds per rotation, and that's on them, they are omnidirectional, if they can't get their ass into the well then they can fuck off and I don't give a fuck.
frail holly
33% sunwell uptime is good
sunwell never goes lower than 70% on any dps tho
uncut dirge
Female paladin would be most popular support
dull obsidian
?
teal herald
<:HUH:1012917714706235472> it’s only free on main. Alts are struggling to get th...
no rmt so struggling
dull obsidian
You rotate between sunsketch and sunwell
supple parrot
Zheng 6x 1600 next week I think. He has 3 or 4 alrdy
frail holly
yeah
supple parrot
dull obsidian
to achieve 100% uptime on AP buff
quartz turret
dull obsidian
sunwell is gonna be fucking 33% effectiveness on 1 dps
LOL
this guy is delusional
supple parrot
<:HUH:1012917714706235472>
Even rosey is getting multiple 1600 next week I think
I’m left behind
frail holly
i literally said the only weakness artist has is the skill issue
supple parrot
For being f2p
queen grail
The point is, all supports have their strenghts and weakness, but I'd say that for farm raids and in general raids (not prog) Artist is my favorite one to use, her flexible kit cleanse heal and buffs are all great
wintry depot
idk if delusionnal or trolling
supple parrot
dull obsidian
delusional
teal herald
zheng rosey whales
frail holly
bro having level 5 gems vs level 10 is skill issue or not?
uncut dirge
I wish I had a glaivier
dull obsidian
?
queen grail
Don't listen to Chuan, the guy has swiped more than a small country and still think he's f2p.
uncut dirge
I miss that awakening
supple parrot
Don't listen to Chuan, the guy has swiped more than a small country and still th...
that is literally untrue
dull obsidian
its just whether or not THEY stand inside SUN WELL
uncut dirge
That spear throw like so freaking cool
quartz turret
Even rosey is getting multiple 1600 next week I think <:monkaHmm:852993226285776...
I’m only getting main 1600 next week striker and pally gonna take another week or two
teal herald
Don't listen to Chuan, the guy has swiped more than a small country and still th...
nah he just play on NA
frail holly
yea and they don't need to stand inside the sunwell with higher gem
supple parrot
I’m only getting main 1600 next week <:HUH:1012917714706235472> striker and pall...
Isn’t ur bard alrdy like 1598
queen grail
<:HUH:1012917714706235472> that is literally untrue
Ok, sorry, my bad, I forgot, you swiped as much as two small countries, and it was "ALL SUPER LEGAL I SWEAR BRO" 👌
supple parrot
Or something
dull obsidian
busy you're either missing something or trolling
quartz turret
Isn’t ur bard alrdy like 1598
My bard is 1600
supple parrot
Ok, sorry, my bad, I forgot, you swiped as much as two small countries, and it w...
I don’t swipe at all
uncut dirge
Paladin also doesn't need HA
dull obsidian
Sunsketch is 65% uptime
supple parrot
My bard is 1600 <:HUH:1012917714706235472>
So if ur main is 1600 week u would have multiple.
queen grail
@teal herald I'm finally done for the reset! 7 Akkans done 
Kill me.
supple parrot
So what I said was true
uncut dirge
And can equip a lot of destro
dull obsidian
they NEED to stand inside sunwell to get the other 35% uptime for SUNSKETCH to come back up
supple parrot
frail holly
busy you're either missing something or trolling
are u talking about best as in best damage or best as in best survivability + damage + healing + usefulness
quartz turret
frail holly
cause it's artist if u factor all 4
dull obsidian
I'm talking about everything
Artist is the weakest general supp
She has her niche uses
But support is literally just support
queen grail
I somewhat regret getting 7 akkans but luckily most run's are going smooth.
dull obsidian
I already told you
queen grail
Artist is the weakest general supp
Strongest general, weakest spesific
frail holly
nobody has more shields
teal herald
<@357164983622172672> I'm finally done for the reset! 7 Akkans done <:dead:10240...
2 kaya
dull obsidian
uncut dirge
cause it's artist if u factor all 4
You have a sorc that stands to the side of the boss and scrapper that's behind
supple parrot
Zheng first to hit 1600. Also the most 1600s but refuse to prog hm g3 to completion
uncut dirge
On a boss the size of cube
queen grail
Honestly, if you fail with shields on Artist, that's a skill issue.
wintry depot
Why haven't we seen artist in g4 hm clear
there is
wintry depot
2 at least
uncut dirge
Paladin buffs both, artist buffs 1
dull obsidian
There was none up to 7
quartz turret
I need a hm prog group next week
queen grail
Why haven't we seen artist in g4 hm clear
Make up your mind.
wintry depot
theres one at 7 and one at 9
dull obsidian
?
uncut dirge
Or g2 brel just leaves the sunwell, more your buffing 0
dull obsidian
I already said she is the weakest
frail holly
yea
dusk storm
she is
urban obsidian
supple parrot
I need a hm prog group next week <:mokokoPhonecry:967248002886541372>
Prob with Zheng
dull obsidian
frail holly
but ur only talking about attack power the whole time
queen grail
urban obsidian
if shes the best why are there basically no thaemine parties running her
dull obsidian
yeh nah I'm gonna go back to reading
supple parrot
Week after next I’ll have another 1600 I think
uncut dirge
<:PogU:852993148983443456>
Nice outfit
supple parrot
dull obsidian
I've talked about her RHAPSODY her SHIELDS and her AP uptime
still lintel
fun that i cant get mvp support cus one of my dps died like 20% into the fight
supple parrot
No rush for me. Bound only 
queen grail
Nice outfit
Why thank you
dull obsidian
unaimable rhapsody is so shit no one takes it
supple parrot
I've talked about her RHAPSODY her SHIELDS and her AP uptime
Isn’t all sups similar ap up time if played properly
dull obsidian
are you going to run after the fucking hit master class sacrificing possible uptime just to get a chance to shield?
still lintel
1 more g4 hard for first pet
dull obsidian
Isn’t all sups similar ap up time if played properly <:Susge:1065387133990355014...
Depends on party
Thats why I said general use
supple parrot
Depends on party
Wdym depend on party
frail holly
are you going to run after the fucking hit master class sacrificing possible upt...
it's called sprinkle lil bro ur talking about a skill issue not a class weakness
supple parrot
queen grail
Using G4 hard clear as a metric for how strong a class is is kinda silly btw.
uncut dirge
Isn’t all sups similar ap up time if played properly <:Susge:1065387133990355014...
Yeah, but two of them require all DPS to stack in a small circle, while one doesn't
uncut dirge
Makes a big diff for ranged
frail holly
yeh I'm out
yea how many dps can u rhapsody if they are in 3 different spots
literally garbage talking point
dull obsidian
:holyshit
left sierra
Bard vibrator so bad
supple parrot
Makes a big diff for ranged
Everyone should be in melee range of boss
urban obsidian
wadafuq when did i get edg
left sierra
If ur ranged and choose not to stand in circle ur loss
uncut dirge
Everyone should be in melee range of boss <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
Some ranged classes don't have the mobility for that. They can't dodge boss attacks at will like melee with their movement skills and fast space bar cd
supple parrot
Some ranged classes don't have the mobility for that. They can't dodge boss atta...
Like what?
dull obsidian
yea how many dps can u rhapsody if they are in 3 different spots
I literally just said you HAVE to RUN up to THEM to shield them
uncut dirge
Summoner is almost 10 sec space bar cd
frail holly
Some ranged classes don't have the mobility for that. They can't dodge boss atta...
that's why igniter don't clear g4 thaemine
cunning mesa
this group
supple parrot
Than if ur out
dull obsidian
Igniter rework soon 
uncut dirge
that's why igniter don't clear g4 thaemine
There was an igniter clear today
urban obsidian
I literally just said you HAVE to RUN up to THEM to shield them
or you can waste time aiming your sprinkle to hit hte guy 20 feet off the boss
supple parrot
Cuz most attacks are cone shaped
urban obsidian
dull obsidian
There was an igniter clear today
yeh the madlife clear
uncut dirge
All you have to do is be a LoL pro
dull obsidian
entire raid party was upright
frail holly
queen grail
sprinkle gonna save you from 300k dmg
To be fair, using G4 as a metric for how good a class is, Is kinda silly, It can be as simple as "The people that were pushing for it didn't have that class". But I agree that one of the weakpoint of Artist is a bad God's/Rhapsody, If they changed Stary Night to be similar that would help, but, do we really want all supports to be carbon copies
quartz turret
urban obsidian
what
cunning mesa
queen grail
Also, didn't someone push with a Artist in Thaemine? How far they got I have no idea, but I think they used Star.
dull obsidian
To be fair, using G4 as a metric for how good a class is, Is kinda silly, It can...
You still have to RUN up to people to rhapsody
frail holly
which igniter doesn't play melee tho
dull obsidian
everyone is asking for this to be changed
obtuse oyster
To be fair, using G4 as a metric for how good a class is, Is kinda silly, It can...
They basically are copies of each other
urban obsidian
the only sorc builds that are basically melee are rg builds
and some igniters dont run rg
frail holly
yea but the sorcs were saying RG igniter was the best
queen grail
They basically are copies of each other
Should be a tiny bit of a difference tho, or else there's no point in having more than one support and just call the class "AuraGod"
uncut dirge
Sorc cast times suck
frail holly
dull obsidian
yea but the sorcs were saying RG igniter was the best
RG is the competitive dmg build
left sierra
Starry is a godtier spell the issue is that it doesn't fit in loa standard because most attacks give you some sort of meter which you don't want so face tanking is pointless 999% of the time
dull obsidian
It has no counter
urban obsidian
Sorc cast times suck
play reflux then
obtuse oyster
Should be a tiny bit of a difference tho, <:dead:1024041666182660237> or else th...
They’re all yearning bots
queen grail
They’re all yearning bots
urban obsidian
boom no cast times
uncut dirge
play reflux then
still lintel
They’re all yearning bots
But artist is the better yearning bot
frail holly
It has no counter
u can't do one of the 100 mechs in thaemine then
obtuse oyster
But artist is the better yearning bot <:Smadge:1053832505029034044>
Cope
cunning mesa
To be fair, using G4 as a metric for how good a class is, Is kinda silly, It can...
people use a single metric for everything, its kinda boring
frail holly
dull obsidian
?
urban obsidian
uncut dirge
Boobadin when
left sierra
Artist> all in pugs cus most pallys and bards are clueless
frail holly
naw that counter will be fine somewhere else
dull obsidian
?
obtuse oyster
Artist> all in pugs cus most pallys and bards are clueless
Nah
dull obsidian
If you are 1 of the only 2 people that are infront of the boss because everyone is entropy sniffing ass
obtuse oyster
Most supports are clueless
supple parrot
yea but the sorcs were saying RG igniter was the best
It’s the highest dps on paper
dull obsidian
Whose gonna help with the multi counter?
obtuse oyster
Let’s not act like pug supports are good
dull obsidian
You're hitmaster you need to assist in the counter
teal herald
another brel card
queen grail
in a pug situation pally > bard > artist
That's it, I'm not healing you.
frail holly
Let’s not act like pug supports are good
who's the best pug support
dull obsidian
also some mechs like that g3 counter mech
uncut dirge
Let’s not act like pug supports are good
I was a terrible pug support today on my pala in kayangel
dull obsidian
if you don't have counter you better fucking hope that your statue isn't counter
counter is essential
frail holly
You're hitmaster you need to assist in the counter
dang bro imagine playing a class where counter wasn't part of ur kit
obtuse oyster
who's the best pug support
Whatever player has a brain and hands when they are on support
dull obsidian
yeh its shit
queen grail
Most supports are clueless
charred void
people here argue as if they can choose between the 3 support classes they get for their endgame
still lintel
so many people doing g3 normal then applying to g4 hard
dense abyss
y'all clueless, clearly gunlancer is the best pug support. I got 0 idea why there has to be a debate about it.
uncut dirge
the synergy skill just like soulfist <:KEKL:1011290526886154313>
Make that arcane bullet thing into counter
supple parrot
everyone is asking for blaze to be a counter
That would be kinda op
uncut dirge
That one can apply synergy too
dull obsidian
That would be kinda op <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
they don't know a solution to the sorc problem
frail holly
so many people doing g3 normal then applying to g4 hard
any g1-2 hard g3 normal g4 hard groups
dull obsidian
Numbers buff would be just a bandaid fix
high fog
The best support is full swift expertise dominion deathblade with a lvl 10 maelstrom cooldown
queen grail
Just play Swiftflux and enjoy the life.
uncut dirge
Increase doomsday cooldown by 4 seconds
queen grail
Best counter, best mobility, best life.
supple parrot
they don't know a solution to the sorc problem
Wdym? Just make counter the same gauge gain as time arrow. Problem solved
dull obsidian
Wdym? Just make counter the same gauge gain as time arrow. Problem solved
Tell SG that
left sierra
Buff sorc body
quartz turret
people here argue as if they can choose between the 3 support classes they get f...
tbf ppl just gonna lobby sit for hours then take the first applies
high fog
I got it guys
uncut dirge
Wdym? Just make counter the same gauge gain as time arrow. Problem solved
But then it would be useful
high fog
Make doomsday a counter
obtuse oyster
Buff sorc body
Buff the arms fr
high fog
When the meteor lands
obtuse oyster
Noodle arms ong
quartz turret
Wdym? Just make counter the same gauge gain as time arrow. Problem solved
Blaze counter
supple parrot
Revert last nerf on sorc. And make counter same gauge gain as rime. There I just fixed sorc in 5 seconds
high fog
Make the animation of going into igniter a counter
empty sleet
Remove sorc
quartz turret
Buff sorc buff Arti 
queen grail
Make the animation of going into igniter a counter
Make sorc just counter by being.
quartz turret
high fog
Real talk summoner hasn’t cleared yet
supple parrot
uncut dirge
Just remove sorc and turn all sorc chars into bards
high fog
I expect akir to do 3x damage
frail holly
summoner is not a class
queen grail
Fucking change CO summoner.
high fog
Next balance patch
frosty sphinx
barrage actually needs wheels
frail holly
u mean rebuff co summoner?
high fog
Actually just make akir only take one orb
quartz turret
Maybe fpe will be decent with 20% buff
high fog
So I can use 23 akirs in a row
supple parrot
Maybe fpe will be decent with 20% buff
Fpe dmg is alrdy decent
uncut dirge
Perfect prog class!
supple parrot
It got 3 buffs in a row
quartz turret
Fpe dmg is alrdy decent <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
Sure
queen grail
u mean rebuff co summoner?
Make pets better, auto casting pet skills, give us a new spell to use over trash spear and give us 1 mobility spell
uncut dirge
Now it's time for real prog and summons get one shot by boss
teal herald
where balance patch
quartz turret
It got 3 buffs in a row
3 2% buffs
frosty sphinx
co had the same issues since pre rework, always been bad
obtuse oyster
where balance patch <:starege:1013232833453629510>
teal herald
3 2% buffs <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
free 9/7
teal herald
<:starege:1013232833453629510>
supple parrot
Sure <:shruge:1100304847183560726>
The fpe in our brel yesterday was consistent third dps every gate
uncut dirge
Make pets better, auto casting pet skills, give us a new spell to use over trash...
Best I can do is -2.8% damage for all skills
supple parrot
And he was full 7s
frail holly
make pets cast awakening with you
queen grail
No class in this game needs higher APM than CO full swift summoner.
quartz turret
The fpe in our brel yesterday was consistent third dps every gate
Cuz the other 3 players are pepegas
cunning mesa
how do people need 3 hours to get ready before g3
queen grail
It hurts to fucking play.
dull obsidian
CO has always just been average
uncut dirge
No class in this game needs higher APM than CO full swift summoner.
Excuse me
high fog
:d
frail holly
No class in this game needs higher APM than CO full swift summoner.
u mean the bad emp arcana
queen grail
I'm pretty sure playing CO summoner on prog is like losing the will to live.
queen grail
u mean the bad emp arcana
You have to multicast spells while casting while toggling and casting your identity + awakening all at the same time?
uncut dirge
What about emperor
high fog
After progging akkan hard for 5 hours on emperor then going to raid on my eo soulfist
My hand is dejj
uncut dirge
u mean the bad emp arcana
Why is emperor bad? I'm legit asking
dull obsidian
dominion swiftflux with C/J would like to talk
high fog
Emperor is good
queen grail
I mean at some points you have to cast Bear Wolf + Awakening all while lining up your spear after casting a synergy skill and god hope you don't forget synergy because then rotation is fucked damage is down and you're dead.
dull obsidian
Emperor is op
uncut dirge
I've only played emperor so I'm curious
frail holly
bad on ur hands maybe
dusk storm
emp is better though
high fog
It just makes your hands hurt
dull obsidian
emp = emp
high fog
But that’s ok
obtuse oyster
Emp > Emp
dull obsidian
true
dawn yacht
queen grail
dominion swiftflux with C/J would like to talk
I play that, It's less APM than CO summoner by far.
frail holly
naw emp > emp
uncut dirge
Should I try empress?
dull obsidian
<:WeirdPaper:1034716538214821888> I play that, It's less APM than CO summoner by...
theres no way
high fog
One of them has multiple thaemine clears the other has none
uncut dirge
One of them has multiple thaemine clears the other has none
Which one has them?
high fog
Emperor
frail holly
u can't c/j always up on swift class
queen grail
theres no way
You do understand you can't just cast 1 and 1 spell fast as CO summoner? You have to cast MULTIPLE at the same time since they aren't on the GCD so you can cast them while casting.
dull obsidian
uncut dirge
I couldn't even get rid of my cds
Yeah but CO has to press buttons while casting abilities, arcana too
frail holly
You do understand you can't just cast 1 and 1 spell fast as CO summoner? You hav...
naw i press more buttons than u when i'm flash stepping in GC
queen grail
Bear, Wolf and Awakening aren't on the GCD so you have to multicast them while casting all your other fucking shit
obtuse oyster
i wish i could make a million from selling a accessory
Some fucker on Reddit posted selling a neck for 1.6mil
obtuse oyster
late portal
Some fucker on Reddit posted selling a neck for 1.6mil
thats what im talking about
high fog
Hype 3 eo is worse than emperor with moon and boundless
But generally eo is easier on the hands
frail holly
that's a lie
uncut dirge
Hype 3 eo is worse than emperor with moon and boundless
Nah
queen grail
Hype 3 eo is worse than emperor with moon and boundless
I've played hype 3.
That's relaxing compared to CO summoner.
frail holly
eo hype 3 u can't even multi cast
dawn yacht
uncut dirge
Emperor doesn't run out of buttons to press + you got to press cards too
dull obsidian
nova garden
dawn yacht
queen grail
CO summoner = Highest APM class in the game, Simple.
high fog
Depends what you prio
dull obsidian
Emperor doesn't run out of buttons to press + you got to press cards too
Most people I know use mouse for cards
idk if that helps or not tho
dawn yacht
dull obsidian
high fog
If you are in boundless with cull or sov you have a little bit of rest time during shuffle
nova garden
high fog
Before having to soace cancel into more evokes and dr
cunning mesa
how do we have almost same dps with a 1520 mokoko than with a 1580+ slayer?
queen grail
https://i.imgur.com/TdwqaNF.png
The person that paid 1,6mil for this must have been drunk.
dull obsidian
The person that paid 1,6mil for this must have been drunk.
uncut dirge
The person that paid 1,6mil for this must have been drunk.
Either sorc or punisher
dull obsidian
punisher?
dawn yacht
Idk how that sells for 1.6 mil
rmt can be one of the answers
late portal
but the person selling just has 280k to put down as a deposit
high fog
Hit master punisher new meta
obtuse oyster
rmt can be one of the answers
Has to be
uncut dirge
Oh yeah I guess punisher is swift
high fog
Haven’t u heard
uncut dirge
Oops
dawn yacht
high fog
What’s a back attack
queen grail
Either sorc or punisher
Punisher?
dull obsidian
It has to be a sorc
queen grail
Hit master?
frail holly
CO summoner = Highest APM class in the game, <:WeirdPaper:1034716538214821888> S...
have u played co today?
dull obsidian
high fog
Barrage also meby?
queen grail
have u played co today?
I have one at 1540+ ye
uncut dirge
It has to be a sorc
Could also be a summoner
high fog
Or empress tbh
frail holly
I have one at 1540+ ye <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
what does desktopapm say for u at highest apm
quartz turret
Arti shit class
uncut dirge
What does empress suck at?
dull obsidian
not breaking hands
obtuse oyster
Tru
quartz turret
Star cards
obtuse oyster
Star cards <:KEKW:834726120606924850>
queen grail
what does desktopapm say for u at highest apm
What does what?
uncut dirge
How is empress stagger?
high fog
Could also be a shadowhunter but no shadowhunter is dropping 1.6m on that xD
Ok if you get foak reset
dull obsidian
How is empress stagger?
above average if they have an emp
late portal
guys just stop talking we all know its
high fog
Pretty meh if you don’t
late portal
emp>emp
dull obsidian
I think its still average tho
frail holly
What does what?
desktopapm dot com
uncut dirge
I kind of want to try empress now
quartz turret
Hope they will rework Arti to be viable in endgame
dull obsidian
Hope they will rework Arti to be viable in endgame <:Sadge:882711949668937748>
Barrage mode just becomes a tank
give it wheels
queen grail
desktopapm dot com
No idea what that is
frail holly
nvm
uncut dirge
I wish Wheel worked like Clown
uncut dirge
I make the mistake frequently
dusk storm
when you guys decide to level a class do you really take stagger into consideration? lol
uncut dirge
Where I intend to use wheel > dark res and then I actually use: dark res > wheel
nova garden
when you guys decide to level a class do you really take stagger into considerat...
I look at how coomer I can make the character’s mog.
obtuse oyster
when you guys decide to level a class do you really take stagger into considerat...
I only think about stagger in pf when accepting classes
frail holly
when you guys decide to level a class do you really take stagger into considerat...
is it a top dps class
dusk storm
exactly
frail holly
no ur wrong
obtuse oyster
is the only thing you should consider
Nah glow 
dull obsidian
Nah glow <:xdd:1025414293937737778>
obtuse oyster
We don’t play shit glows here
quartz turret
U can wheel space bar?
high fog
Only thing you should consider is
obtuse oyster
high fog
If the class is reaper or sorc
dull obsidian
I play blade main
high fog
If it is you don’t make it
dull obsidian
where glow
high fog
Else ok