lost-ark-discussions

[supple parrot]

Are all the green names degenerate weebs

[silver hollow]

@lament vortex

dont whisper then go off

bozo

[silver hollow]

no mercy is a bdo degen

[lament vortex]

swapped character

[silver hollow]

shes normal

[lime dove]

jesus

what insane ppl want more than 24 char lsots

[lament vortex]

Mercy is very nice

[silver hollow]

disagreed

[rigid aurora]

so a weeb

[silver hollow]

no

her main character in bdo has jiggly booba

and a nice outfit

[supple parrot]

What’s the difference

[silver hollow]

not weebish

[supple parrot]

[silver hollow]

[storm holly]

me...

[supple parrot]

Who are the top 3 weebs here

And is scalp one of them

[lime dove]

what for

how u got the time

[rigid aurora]

my bdo char is 10x better than mercy's

or anyone's really

[silver hollow]

yuzu mizu and ulti

[rigid aurora]

my presets are goated

[silver hollow]

honestly cap

[rigid aurora]

nah

[silver hollow]

screen or cap

[rigid aurora]

ok one sec

[silver hollow]

her presets kinda fire

[supple parrot]

Prob mid/10

[still lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1148316640954552320.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[lime dove]

if u r playing more than 24 chars

[charred void]

[lime dove]

that means u only play one char less than 1 hour

whats the point

jesus man login do chaos x2 1 x guardian

rinse and repeat X 24+???

DAILY

giving me shivers just thinking about it

[rigid aurora]

@silver hollow i deleted the rest of my screenshots or some shit cuz i cant find them but i do have these

[silver hollow]

oh shit

she kinda look hot

[wintry depot]

should be, happened in kr

[silver hollow]

what class is that tho

[rigid aurora]

maegu

[silver hollow]

[obtuse oyster]

[rigid aurora]

i one shotted mercy with her

[silver hollow]

which

her main? xdd

[rigid aurora]

her main

yeah

[silver hollow]

embarrassing

[silver hollow]

[stark thicket]

why u xd

[silver hollow]

[lime dove]

argos dead content

[silver hollow]

bro brel dead content fr

shit is a quick 15 min in and out

[rigid aurora]

@silver hollow

[lime dove]

the heck is that

[still lintel]

bdo

[charred void]

another korean pron game

[lime dove]

[silver hollow]

LOOOOOOL

is what i call betrayal

whoooops

[rigid aurora]

look at me immediately disappear after LOL

[still lintel]

[silver hollow]

i would too

quick block angle fr

https://tenor.com/view/electro-kingdom-black-magic-gif-19337815

[lime dove]

cringe

[lament vortex]

So rude man

[lime dove]

at least not as bad as those artist/aeromancer

with their cringe uwu shit

[shadow sonnet]

what game is that

[rigid aurora]

i should reinstall bdo

bdo

big dick online

[silver hollow]

i should install bdo

[shadow sonnet]

is the game still just grind open world basically

[rigid aurora]

you should

we all play

[shadow sonnet]

or does it have real dungeons/raids now

[silver hollow]

to buy coomer skins and afk fish

[rigid aurora]

i'll get you guys to 62

while u afk

[silver hollow]

but heard 62 is kinda

a grind

[nova garden]

I tried bdo, just isn’t my style.

[silver hollow]

has both

but i think ppl dont raid much

[rigid aurora]

takes like

idk

[still lintel]

maplestory got better grind

[silver hollow]

also was told its only 5 man raids

[shadow sonnet]

what about dungeons

[rigid aurora]

a whole 12 hours of grinding

[silver hollow]

[shadow sonnet]

lol

[silver hollow]

only 12 hrs?

bro mercy told me its a 9-5

[rigid aurora]

with full boosts something like that

[silver hollow]

[shadow sonnet]

bdo seems like it would the most fun game if it had real raids/dungeons

well not really but it would be alright

[rigid aurora]

when i was in high school like 2 years ago i would grind for like 2 days straight

[charred void]

i used to grind 24 hours for like idk, 57 or 58 back in 2016

[silver hollow]

e combat is not as clean as LA imo but still kinda cool in its own respect

some classes anyways

[rigid aurora]

i used to leave bdo and my pc on for like 2-3 weeks straight

[silver hollow]

damn

the good old days

[dull obsidian]

I used to play minecraft cosmic prisons and mine for 16 hours a day

Idk what was wrong with me

[rigid aurora]

LOL

[bold aspen]

[rigid aurora]

actually yeah same

[silver hollow]

LOL

[dull obsidian]

..

[silver hollow]

okay am guilty too

[rigid aurora]

i used to play mc prisons all day when i was in middle school

[dull obsidian]

I think

I had close to

[silver hollow]

i have a few ermm hours in MC prison servers

[dull obsidian]

8 million blocks mined

[silver hollow]

[dull obsidian]

in the first season of Celestial

[rigid aurora]

ok im reinstalling bdo

[turbid oriole]

yuzu

[silver hollow]

listen we dont talk about that

[rigid aurora]

@sleek chasm lets play

[turbid oriole]

did u do elgacia yet

[rigid aurora]

nope

[turbid oriole]

[dull obsidian]

Did you ever play cosmic?

[rigid aurora]

well i did it just to stay in the city but i didnt finish it

[dull obsidian]

I think its still up slightly dead

[silver hollow]

why do u delete anyways

[turbid oriole]

quest is so boring

[sleek chasm]

play what

[turbid oriole]

someone wanna buy me elgacia pp

[rigid aurora]

bdo

[sleek chasm]

ok i'm down

[silver hollow]

@sleek chasm strim

[dull obsidian]

LMAO

[lime dove]

fr man fk that shit

[rigid aurora]

i have to reinstall first

[dull obsidian]

nvm its down

[rigid aurora]

gimme like

[turbid oriole]

ill sell you @nova garden feet pics for elgacia pp

[lime dove]

how much is that sht anyways

[rigid aurora]

an hour

[nova garden]

[rigid aurora]

65 bucks or some shit

[silver hollow]

why is ur pc not in english

[lime dove]

the fk? from SV?

[rigid aurora]

im not english

[silver hollow]

[rigid aurora]

oh from sv idk

[nova garden]

If you only need Elgacia, it’s like $10.

[turbid oriole]

like 10$ usd

[lime dove]

ohh

not bad

[rigid aurora]

yeah probably 10

fresh acc it's like 60 though

[stark thicket]

almost out

[lime dove]

thats like one boba nowadays

fuck inflation

[silver hollow]

[rigid aurora]

@sleek chasm did they add new skins

[stark thicket]

ice deleted a message i had when i sent the yellow version of this

[silver hollow]

good

deserved

[stark thicket]

[lime dove]

ill probly buy it if SE doesnt come with Elgacia PP

if it does ima just KT it

[sleek chasm]

yes

i'll show

[rigid aurora]

yeah show

[lime dove]

show dn

[hidden wing]

which set is better for kayangel and tree? los 30 or kazeroth 18

[sleek chasm]

plus yuzu my bdo characters are better than yours

i just saw your message

[rigid aurora]

nope

[nova garden]

Yuzu is casual

[rigid aurora]

if i'm not beaten in anything it's bdo presets

[lime dove]

the filthy kind?

[supple parrot]

Klc 18

[rigid aurora]

the hot kind

[silver hollow]

[rigid aurora]

the hot and cute kind

[lime dove]

lol

[dull obsidian]

KLC 18

[nova garden]

How about hot and mommy kind?

[rigid aurora]

this shit ass

[silver hollow]

see

[nova garden]

This is it, chief. This right here

[rigid aurora]

i have a guardian

so perhaps

[nova garden]

Guardian good

[rigid aurora]

[dull obsidian]

I see a lot of people wearing the Siri hair in lost ark now

wtf

[dim lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852619895119020033/939588627397218414/i016344842816-8x-RIFE-RIFE3.1-50fps.gif

[dull obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/ceobe-arknigths-eats-burger-my-reaction-to-that-information-gif-27497476

[sleek chasm]

i thought so too but it grew on me

male skin better

[rigid aurora]

lemme see

my game done in like 15 mins

i bet i have like 12 billion silver sitting in my like daily login thing

[nova garden]

I have to attend a wedding rehearsal

This is pain

[rigid aurora]

[obtuse oyster]

look who I found

[rigid aurora]

LOL

[lime dove]

what is that lol

[silver hollow]

who this

[rigid aurora]

@sleek chasm what ur gs

now

[lime dove]

is that like a meme

[dull obsidian]

No it Chinese

[lime dove]

what

lol

[dull obsidian]

I thought you were gonna write Anime

[bold aspen]

[silver hollow]

[dull obsidian]

Yeh it is

[lime dove]

never seen it before

[rigid aurora]

oh shit

male skin fire wtf

[rigid aurora]

bdo modern casual outfits when

[shadow sonnet]

what ilvl increase do you get xferring relic 15 to brel ancient

[dull obsidian]

2.5 I believe

[shadow sonnet]

ah ty

[rigid aurora]

like 3

or 2.5

[shadow sonnet]

ooh so just xfer 4 armour and youre 1500

i can see why 1490 is a dead zone basically lol

[sleek chasm]

still some shit. i made my maegu my grinder now and made the woosa my knowledge farmer so sh'es still my main

now i can be two places at once

[nova garden]

BD

[rigid aurora]

[mortal burrow]

its 3.33

repeating

the gear goes from i level 1490 to 1510 which means 20/6= 3.33

[rigid aurora]

thanks ishdoan

[dull obsidian]

what?

you gain that much ilvl?

[mortal burrow]

yeah

with the new gates and stuff

you get 2 pieces

hone them 1 time each

then ez money, you're set for grel g3

[rigid aurora]

why does it name the launcher to the mena ver

[bold aspen]

Türkiye yuzu turkish confirmed

[sleek chasm]

vc

[rigid aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-man-gif-19334490

[rigid aurora]

5 minutes ima make food

[sleek chasm]

no clue

[rigid aurora]

and its installing anyway

[bold aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/çağatayulusoy-yeşilçam-crying-gif-22229093

[queen grail]

Free tap

[silver hollow]

[sleek chasm]

any dye masters in chat

medoo come here

[mortal burrow]

ngl i thought that was a weapon and i was wtf is that

it looks like a snowboard

wait im stupid (i didnt read the wep power)

[teal herald]

[mortal burrow]

is that glaiviers weapon

[dim lark]

focus on dn

[queen grail]

Classic

[silver hollow]

Ma voice is not here got flu can only watch

[teal herald]

finally honing mats on main

[lime dove]

so are they fusing chaos gate, field boss and ghost ship?

[queen grail]

It Is a weapon

[bold aspen]

nice imagine having to turn around to actually see your glow

[sleek chasm]

np

sit and view

i need a chatter

[supple parrot]

94 qual on lopang

[queen grail]

@teal herald How did your hard akkan go you betrayer!

[bold aspen]

wdym lopang

[teal herald]

1,5h in lobby

gave up and played cyberpunk

[supple parrot]

Oh 1645 weapon wait a minute

[teal herald]

[supple parrot]

Whales man

[bold aspen]

thats akkan +24 yea

[mortal burrow]

@teal herald you know whats kinda sad

[bold aspen]

[queen grail]

Rip.

[mortal burrow]

i onced dmg mvped in a caligos with betrayal set on

[bold aspen]

[mortal burrow]

this was a bit ago tho, like decemberish

i think i was like 40ish % dmg

[teal herald]

i will do it tomorrow or maybe never

[still lintel]

[queen grail]

could just join me in normal too and relax.

[charred void]

its 100% droprate, both

[empty sleet]

LOL

too ez

[still lintel]

people running behind monke instead of trying to counter

[cedar zealot]

two of my lopangs have purple wep

its not that hard

[shadow sonnet]

damn something is so depressing seeing akkan groups trying to form.

same group was forming for 1.5 hours no no supports

all 1590 too

[charred void]

its not depressing

when you know that these shitters have like 6 dps in the roster

[supple parrot]

whale

[dim lark]

should i sleep or braindead raids

[shadow sonnet]

even if they were 1 dps and 5 supports their supports wouldnt be 1580

[cedar zealot]

dog game design

cant even make sup more enjoyable or more worth making

[shadow sonnet]

smilegate should legit just bite the bullet and give support classes artrist/bard/paladin have insane honing bonuses

[cedar zealot]

i didnt care up until i pushed a few more alts to 1580

[shadow sonnet]

???

you dont like being a cuck?

[cedar zealot]

there is definitely not enough sup at 1580+ content

[shadow sonnet]

and pressing buffs and watching otheres do more damage

[cedar zealot]

just a quick look at kay hm and akkan nm makes that clear

[supple parrot]

just removes sups

[still lintel]

why cant i enter solo when i got deserter

[cedar zealot]

even people with sup in their rosters like chuan

and his rmt static

[shadow sonnet]

yh i was looking at it today, its very very depressing

[cedar zealot]

they play 4/5 dps

and 1/2 sup

so u know there is an issue

but nope kr doesnt whine so we will never see a fix

[supple parrot]

wdym, that is normal, if EVERYONE has 2+ sup then there would be too many sups

[cedar zealot]

mathematically incorrect

[queen grail]

@teal herald

[shadow sonnet]

like honestly who are these people playing this game nowadays tbh. if you are 1580+ akkan normal level do you really want to come home after work and sit in LFG for insanely long idk

[supple parrot]

how? explain

[deft barn]

[cedar zealot]

problem can only be solved if people have 1:1 dps:sup

which will never happen

[queen grail]

That's how it goes when shitters just want to play dps and be mediocre at that too

[shadow sonnet]

support takes zero skill and no one cares if youre shit either

[supple parrot]

the ratio is 3dps 1sup. if everyone has 2sup 4dps, then the ratio is off

[shadow sonnet]

supports perma cope lol

[charred void]

ok buddy

[queen grail]

Spoken like someone that's going to be a bad support.

[shadow sonnet]

basically 99% of the playerbase doesnt care how well the support does since you cant notice

[queen grail]

There's a mile between a bad and a good support in terms of what they bring to the team.

[warped quail]

oh no… you CAN notice if the supp is shitty

[azure valley]

do your raids as 4 dps then

[shadow sonnet]

oh em gee the supports buff uptime metabolic window was 0.5% off

[bold aspen]

yes ofc you can tell what ?

[queen grail]

Fuck you mean you can't notice? I notice instantly if a support is shit.

[warped quail]

glad you haven’t encountered a shitty support then

[queen grail]

I bet he has, he's just to dense to notice it.

[shadow sonnet]

because it doesnt matter if theyre shit lol, as long as theyre not dying and doing mechs no one cares. but you need them to even start the raid

[bold aspen]

the diff from a shit support and a good one is insane

[queen grail]

Ofc it does? Huh.

Are you high?

[azure valley]

why do you need them to start the raid if you dont need shields/heals/dmg buffs?

[lament vortex]

Support dif is massive

[warped quail]

/votekick

[supple parrot]

problems will all be solved

if all sup are removed

turned into dps instead

[bold aspen]

[queen grail]

Difference between good/bad support is insane From knowing when to use big mitigation, keeping buff / brand up and mana recovery + mitigation, huh

[warped quail]

are you all high what the fuck pass some

[cedar zealot]

add self healing runes, and maybe let people carry more pots

ez fix

[wintry depot]

And then middle finger to people that actually likes to play support

[empty sleet]

Problem solved is adding lifesteal to the game instead of expertise

[wintry depot]

Why is this again a discussion

[shadow sonnet]

????

a bad paladin for example pressing every ability on cooldown and not dying takes zero skill.

use z skill bad time? oh well no one is going to flame you or kick you

[cedar zealot]

its sup mald hours

[shadow sonnet]

supports get immunity from being shit, whilst being able to cherry pick every group

[queen grail]

Because people think supporting is easy while they do a standarized rotation that require little to no thinking.

[shadow sonnet]

play support to get carried basically

[azure valley]

are you like 1445 or something

[wintry depot]

Then play support lol

[empty sleet]

Being a good support is hard

[queen grail]

Oh gee dpsing as omnidirectional damage sure is hard when I have a set-in stone rotation.

Gee willikers.

[shadow sonnet]

supporting is objectively easy lol anyone saying otherwise is 200% coping

[charred void]

ok dude

[supple parrot]

wdym?

[queen grail]

Spoken like a bad support.

[empty sleet]

Being a good support is hard

[supple parrot]

it literally would solve problem

[azure valley]

playing a support badly is easy, playing a support well is very different

[supple parrot]

the system of making it much ezier to do raid when u have a sup is stupid

just have 4 dps

[cedar zealot]

you cant argue with them and change their mind, but im with you, sure there is a huge difference between a good and bad sup, but for content where there is a sup shortage, we are willing to let that slide

[queen grail]

I mean, a bad paladin is super easy to notice since they have zero on-demand healing and need to use their God's law correct to mitigate damage before it hits to make sure the party lives.

[cedar zealot]

cause we arent in a position to choose

and that sucks

same never applies to a dps

[still lintel]

[queen grail]

Same as playing a bad db tickles the boss while a good one destroys it

[shadow sonnet]

it doesnt matter if you play support badly, all you need to do is provide shields/heals/and press your buff. takes zero skill to do these things lol. also even if youre somehow bad at these things no one will care since it takes so long to find the cuckolds who actually want to play support since they dont want to wait in lobby super long

[queen grail]

apes thinking supporting is easy.

[warped quail]

this is the stupidest shit i’ve ever read

[shadow sonnet]

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just coping idk what to tell you lol

[bold aspen]

this actually hurts my 2 zerker braincells what the fuck am i reading rn

[azure valley]

says the guy with no endgame experience

[charred void]

you know, pressing 3 buttons in the correct order is not the only job of the support player

[shadow sonnet]

Support is the cuck role.

wcyd

[warped quail]

i’m gonna pretend this is just bait and go on with my life

[queen grail]

Have you ever played end-game support?

[shadow sonnet]

i supported brel hard gate 6

[bold aspen]

man has probably like 1 1500 char los 12 and lvl 5 gems now talking shit about sups how easy they are to play

[shadow sonnet]

1-6 obv

[wintry depot]

Either hes trolling or hes just stupid

[shadow sonnet]

takes zero skill , you are unironically coping if you think otherwise

[still lintel]

theres way too many shit geared supports

[shadow sonnet]

also even IF you are bad, no one cares

you get insta invited

[queen grail]

I have a feeling you were a shit support.

[shadow sonnet]

make a mistake? no one cares youre getting sucked off regardless since people are forced to be nice to you lol

[bold aspen]

i literally gatekeep half the supports tf is this man on about insta invited

[azure valley]

guys i played a support in tier 1, it was really easy

[empty sleet]

😛

[azure valley]

you just push buttons and the quests get done

[charred void]

where is your mvp then literally free if its so braindead easy to play

[shadow sonnet]

Supports are just trying to pretend that the role takes any difficulty at all

[shadow sonnet]

How does this relate to anything i am saying in any capacity?

[queen grail]

Where or not you got flamed does not change the point that a shit support is still shit.

[azure valley]

i found the 35% brand uptime andy ^

[charred void]

show me something useful

[shadow sonnet]

ok and? What is your point

[empty sleet]

you can support any gate but that dont mean you actually did anything

[charred void]

go show me something of your support gameplay/screenshot whatever if you think its so easy to play dude surely some 2head like you have something to show

[bold aspen]

[queen grail]

It does tho, you're not listening.

You can play a role bad and get away with it, you can do that as a dps too in 8 man, you don't think there's a bunch of dps that's never on the MVP list because they objectivly suck ass and never get called out on it?

[shadow sonnet]

ok and? it doesnt matter. supports are the role that gets carried, it LITERALLY doesnt matter if you are bad at supporting. People will absolutely not care and carry you through. Even IF i was playing bad, if you are a support at current end game content you will be carried through regardless. A bad support doesnt matter since the bare minimum (buff uptime) and healing takes absolutely zero skill.

[empty sleet]

aint no way they listed the same 28 qual neck again

[queen grail]

More like supports carry their entire team on their shoulders.

[empty sleet]

[lament vortex]

If you would do end game content on ilvl

[shadow sonnet]

Supporting is the get carried role, also doesnt take skill

[charred void]

i'm 100% sure this guy is directdmg now

[queen grail]

He has to be a troll or just a really really trash support with no self-awarness of how bad he is.

[lament vortex]

A bad support would literally mean not clearing

[shadow sonnet]

i did brel 6 HM on ilvl

[charred void]

ok

[empty sleet]

of course you're gonna get "carried" you do no fucking dmg because your role is to support the team

[charred void]

were you alive

[shadow sonnet]

no shit lmao, surviving as a support is 200 times easier since you are (basically) never at any real risk

[queen grail]

Congratulations? 👏 You want a cookie? You can still get away with bad playing even as a support, you can do that as a dps too, you're not listening

But I can tell you this, I notice instantly if my support is shit

[shadow sonnet]

the requirements to actually DPS are higher than support. Supports can also choose to run heavy armour and never die, and no one will care

[shadow sonnet]

and no one will care if theyre shit

if a bad dps is shit theyll be kicked and replaced easily

[empty sleet]

2/3 supports dont choose to run heavy armour, they have to

[shadow sonnet]

bad supports arent being kicked end game content unless theyre basically afk and dont know any mechs

[cedar zealot]

i think the point he is trying to make is that, supports arent gatekept as hard as dps, which we all agree in, also supports have an easier role in a raid compared to dps which is also kinda true

[queen grail]

I don't think I've ever seen a bad dps get kicked, unless you mean bad as in wiping the team, and If It's bad as in wiping the team then for sure supports can and have been kicked for that.

[queen grail]

I disagree with easier role, you try keeping 3 apes alive while they activly try to kill themself to do dps.

[empty sleet]

as a support you gotta know the hard hitting mechs and what they look like so you can protect your team from dying

[cedar zealot]

its not your job to keep apes alive though, you kick and replace

[supple parrot]

any 1540 on nae jump? come plz

[queen grail]

That's litteraly the job of a support, to mitigatate and support and prevent deaths

[charred void]

good luck

[empty sleet]

this a terrible mindset

[wintry depot]

https://tenor.com/view/pandacorn-gif-27525978

[empty sleet]

mistakes happen, so you're just gonna kick them for it?

[cedar zealot]

obviously everyone gets a few chances

[queen grail]

I gatekeep paladin with heavy armor and for bard & artist that engraving is almost mandatory since they have terrible armor scaling.

[rigid aurora]

@bleak star good at lv15?

[cedar zealot]

you would gatekeep a 5x3 pally with heavy armor?

[bleak star]

go to bdo horse community discord and theres bot there

[cedar zealot]

[bleak star]

that evalutes those stats

[queen grail]

Also trash supports that cause wipes gets kicked too, it's just thinking they are some holy grail that can't be touched from the kick button.

[still lintel]

yes

[charred void]

yes

[queen grail]

Depending on the raid, yes.

[wispy monolith]

Should I use selection to get 18 LOS?

[empty sleet]

pally is a massive tank he dont need no heavy armour

[cedar zealot]

what else would they bring as a 5th engraving? orbs?

[queen grail]

Why would you run HA on the already tankiest class in the game? It just screams trash player.

[shadow sonnet]

Supports objectively have an easier role and easier party finder AND have the benefit to pick the absolute best group and join instantly. the floor for supports is so easy its not even an argument.

Also in this game if players are dying it is basically NEVER the supports fault. Its DPS own responsibility to stay alive since (almost) every pattern and mech is resolvable and avoidable (almost). If you think a good support keeps people alive for example (since buff uptime is disgustingly easy and takes zero skill. keeping people alive would be the only skill gap here), are you blaming the support for people dying?

[queen grail]

Yes?

[still lintel]

hp card set, 3x3/4x3, 4 gems only , pala with heavy armor

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-face-cat-meme-cat-puke-cat-vomit-cat-coughing-meme-gif-22332765

[cedar zealot]

lame excuse to not invite a pally imo

[charred void]

you dont invite ha palas

ever

[cedar zealot]

if they have correct stats, 5x3 with ha, correct card set (lwc/mos 30)

[queen grail]

Unless I'm somewhat forced to it I'll gatekeep all trash geared support even for something as simple as Abrel.

[empty sleet]

[cedar zealot]

i wouldnt care and just invite, dont wanna wait 15 more minute in pf

[wintry depot]

can the negative iq stop writing, its too long bullshit

[cedar zealot]

[still lintel]

if they have ha they dont have 5x3 its 4x3 :)

[bleak star]

its not that black and white as u think

[queen grail]

"if players are dying it is basically NEVER the supports fault. Its DPS own responsibility to stay alive since" Imagine being this wrong and thinking you're rich Kinda wack.

[cedar zealot]

thats all they need

[wintry depot]

i dont think so no

[shadow sonnet]

this is how basically every player in PF feels, supports are the reluctant role, just take whatever you can

[wintry depot]

depends how many selectors u want to use

[shadow sonnet]

So if a player is dying youre blaming the support by your logic?

[queen grail]

As I said depends on the raid, but HA on paladin is a big red flag for bad player.

[empty sleet]

so you're saying people will accept any ol' support right? @shadow sonnet

[supple parrot]

[shadow sonnet]

fucking bard shouldve use rhapsody on me why did i die

[empty sleet]

better than no one

[still lintel]

"fast run"

[wintry depot]

if you cant go up and it will hit, yes a bard should protect you

[cedar zealot]

[bleak star]

Listen if support doesn't provide shielding at all im gonna blame support

[queen grail]

Depends on what I'm dying from yea.

If a support fail to cast a single shield during Flame-Stagger on Hanu, that's the support being trash, since unless you want to slow down the stagger time drastically you have to take a hit or two andd the fire does a large chunk of initial + tick damage.

[supple parrot]

just need a sup! someone come, i will carry

[bleak star]

but if I don't use pots / dodge gimmicks its my fault

you can't put it into black and white

[keen copper]

where quality

[azure valley]

dps is easier, you only need 1 dps for brel

[still lintel]

i keep forgetting to use awak on hanu on my artist

[queen grail]

If you play bard and you never use rhapsody or you just use it randomly, you're a bad bard.

[supple parrot]

@dull obsidian did u run kayangel on ur jump artist? come to mah lobbyyyy

[queen grail]

bad artist

[still lintel]

get mvp anyway even if 1/2 die to ice cones

[empty sleet]

so from my understanding he is saying that any support will be accepted into any content right?

[queen grail]

That's why It's so easy to sniff out bad supports, you can just see the team constantly struggling on low / mid hp with bad brand uptime and oom on classes like Wardancer/Slayer that needs mana recovery from support pretty much on CD to maintain mana.

[keen copper]

ive gone oom on gs before even with a support

[queen grail]

Sounds like a shit support.

[keen copper]

real

[wintry depot]

was probably me, sorry

[queen grail]

[keen copper]

arna

[empty sleet]

oom? out of mana?

[wintry depot]

[wispy monolith]

I need 5 😩

[still lintel]

the paladin with heavy armor, 3x3, hp card set and only 4 gems when he gets declined

[wintry depot]

then dont

[shadow sonnet]

This game is going to be giga fucked with voldike release especially. Even akkan normal its insane, i can fathom how bad 1600 (NM) and 1620 will be

1620 is +17 i think

[wintry depot]

19

[shadow sonnet]

XDDDDDD

[empty sleet]

mans changed topic

[queen grail]

I mean, I legit had someone in me and @teal herald's Akkan run ask to be swapped into my grp since his support was so trash, and everyone in my grp got cruel/upright and Radiant on me, so there is for sure sup difference in terms of skills.

[shadow sonnet]

and these shitters think theyll gatekeep any supports

[still lintel]

ppl just need to stop pushing 6 dps to endgame instead of 1 or 2 supports :)

[queen grail]

I mean, I'm going to have 3 supports for Voldike so going to be easy life

[shadow sonnet]

yh you'll wait 10 hours for a 1620 support and reject cus its a paladin who has heavy armour, or replace/kick cus he's supporting "badly" no you arent

[wintry depot]

imagine not having a static and choose what support you get

[wispy monolith]

Ok, waiting for Azena 😩

[keen copper]

finally on a char i plan on honing

[queen grail]

Honestly, if you're 5x3 with HA in Voldike, I'm not sure I'd trust you to have the brain power to support that raid

[empty sleet]

idek if im a good supp or not because i havent done anything with them

besides carl

[still lintel]

rather not play than team up with someone thats inting with something as basic as their build/setup

[queen grail]

Imagine not having 3 supports at end-game + dps and worst come you just support swap with others

[shadow sonnet]

Youre the minority or just lying. I promise you that basically no one will care about a paladin with heavy armour for 1620

if you are trying to say otherwise you are zero iq idk what to tell you

[queen grail]

@charred void would you take a paladin with HA to Valtan?

[charred void]

you wont clear voldick hard with a ha paladin since already has no idea about his class

[shadow sonnet]

1620 is valtan i didnt know that

[supple parrot]

we filled! time for ez 1 shot kaya surely

[wintry depot]

i have only 2 im sorry :(

[queen grail]

I mean, you're in the grp, that does lower the chance quite a bit but goodluck to your team.

[wintry depot]

2 at 1580+*

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/hihi-giddy-excited-toddlers-and-tiaras-gif-14650401

[queen grail]

good start, time for a third.

[keen copper]

im contributing with my 1520 support

im doing my part

[shadow sonnet]

youre so delusional its insane tbh. If someone said they couldnt clear cus a paladin took heavy armour instead of DOE/whatever id think they are the biggest shitters imaginable

[next solstice]

Its funny you say a support is trash if he dosent shield you at right moment. People talking like lost ark is an high skilled cap game. Its all about knowledge and exp on fights. No game with 8 buttons requiers high skill to play. Its like saying driving youre Nike to the store requirs high skill cap.

[queen grail]

Did you play HA on your paladin?

[wintry depot]

1566 for now! i have no gold

[next solstice]

Bike*

[cedar zealot]

DOE is a HUGE DPS increase bro

[wintry depot]

i keep spending on skins

[still lintel]

the paladin in my g4 run today that missplaced yellow comet prob had heavy armor

[cedar zealot]

its the difference between clearing and getting jailed in a raid

[still lintel]

should have checked

[queen grail]

So what you're saying is you need skills to know when to shield at the right moment?

[shadow sonnet]

its therotically a 4% dps inc MAX, in reality its far far far less. Memorizer talked about it once

[next solstice]

@queen grail no it requiers knowledge

[queen grail]

More that picking HA over Drop shows a clear lack of understanding your class

[cedar zealot]

i was being sarcastic, i dont even need numbers to know its a dead slot

[shadow sonnet]

yh if someone said they cant clear cus no drops of ether they should be forced to uninstall

[next solstice]

@queen grail no skill*

[shadow sonnet]

dead slot as in its bad or its good, i mean DOE is still good ofc lol

[buoyant flame]

im on the stop gatekeeping side

if their 1620 they probably have some idead what their doing

[queen grail]

So no dps takes any skills to play either.

[queen grail]

You would think that.

Want to see something fun?

[shadow sonnet]

yh youre definitely delusional ngl. you mean the role, not class

regardless, I promise you any support who is even just 1580 isnt going to get gatekept from a party because they dont have DOE. and for voldike release you are taking any support that applies since the vast majority of supports in this game are alts. even if a 3x3 1600 paladin applies for voldike i gurantee even the best parties will take them if no supports are applying (very likely)

[queen grail]

The 3 dps was alive to the end, boss at sub10 seconds to enrage, (pre-nerf) and they all had 1580++ with good engravings/stats/gem's and full Lv.3 set so they knew the fight, but ey I guess gearscore = know what they are doing

[shadow sonnet]

i wonder how giga whale parties even go, cant be many support whales at all. is 1620 even (realistically) possible for voldike release without spending?

[queen grail]

But, ye, I bet a bad support just clicking skills off cd would have been able to salvage their absolutely terrible performance

[cedar zealot]

i applied to like 3 akkan nm parties in the morning, title said LF DPS, they had a few slots, all denied me, im not saying its gatekeeping, probably looking for specific synergy, my character was full 9s, los 30, had title, good qualityetc

[shadow sonnet]

like akkan HM week 1 was it even plausible as ((f2p)). that was like +21 right? or something idk

[queen grail]

If they get or don't get gatekept Is whatever, to say the class is super easy and require nothing to play is what's stupid af

[next solstice]

@queen grail its for sure some skill, but its more about the exp. Just saying lost ark issent a high skilled cap game as some of the elitist in this comunity thinks

[cedar zealot]

u deny a sup, they instantly apply and get invited to another one

as long as its content where there is a sup shortage

which is the only content that matters

everything else u can faceroll

as full dps

[shadow sonnet]

yh true

[cedar zealot]

but let people cope i guess

let them deny their ha pallies

like it matters

[cedar zealot]

the only point where i side with everyone else is that, the difference between a good and bad sup is huge

[shadow sonnet]

Isnt the game basically getting even worse in regards to alts. For example having a couple of brel 1-6HM chars wasnt too insane. (i had two but I was playing 6 chars at the time etc)

Atm unlikely anyone has a 1600 akkan char AND a 1600 alt i imagine right (unless theyre whaling or turbo unemployment playing maybe)

[cedar zealot]

everything else, u are right on

most of what i read anyway

[cedar zealot]

the return on investment is getting worse

[tawny juniper]

98% of sup effectiveness is having high swift + gem + hands

[shadow sonnet]

well its not about the ROI i more mean like the cost to get there anyway

[cedar zealot]

dont say that here, people will crucify you

[queen grail]

Not that expensive with full akkan gear.

[shadow sonnet]

like for brel i pushed the char cus i wanted to right and it wasnt TOO hard to do so, but now like i cant even fathom havent mutliple chars akkan

[wintry depot]

well civo said hands

so he agree with bad and good sup

lol

[queen grail]

Why would they do that? "Hands" Is what peope have said

You 🐒 Pahlev

[shadow sonnet]

like 1580 is pretty insane itself no?

[queen grail]

[cedar zealot]

hands is subjective

[bold aspen]

hands

[queen grail]

I don't think he means hands as in facerolling on the keyboard.

[shadow sonnet]

Like my point is that if alts are giga hard to push to just normal suppport shortage for normal will only get worse and worse and worse. Since i imagine the majority of supports are alts

[cedar zealot]

land your debuffs, have heals up, the basics

[queen grail]

Depends from person to person, I have 7 1580's and will have most likely 7 1600 pre-voldike.

[shadow sonnet]

like kayangel nm support waiting is pretty fast for example (1540)

[cedar zealot]

shielding is not something i expect, but nice to have

[bold aspen]

i took a shit for like 20 min this convo about supports still going on ?

[cedar zealot]

for big hits and what not

kay g3 hammer etc

[shadow sonnet]

are you unemployed or a whale. or bussing multiple chars in lots of content every week (also relates to first one)

[cedar zealot]

might as well shit talk while waiting on a sup

[queen grail]

Why would you not expect shielding when all 3 supports has a bunch of shields?

[cedar zealot]

[bold aspen]

[queen grail]

I don't bus anything nor am I a whale, not sure how my work status has to do with it but ye I play a lot

It's not economically sane to whale to hone.

[cedar zealot]

if its for some mechs where it would make a huge difference, sure

[queen grail]

The return on what you pay is dreadfull.

[tawny juniper]

having 6x 1580 is not hard

its just consistency

[dusk storm]

whale

[tawny juniper]

6x 1600 would be whale tho

[dusk storm]

[bold aspen]

i have 3 rn is that good mr civo

[cedar zealot]

enhanced slime explosions in g3 akkan, g3 kay hm getting hit by rotating discs, hammer into aoe

[tawny juniper]

ya

[cedar zealot]

sup should realistically shield those

[queen grail]

I'll get there, with full akkan gear since It's "just 3 hones per item "

[bold aspen]

thanks

[cedar zealot]

its still a few hundred k in gold

[queen grail]

And should rotate their low-cd shields for any and all minor patterns too

[cedar zealot]

assuming u dont have enough bound mats

[queen grail]

Sure, I've spent a absurd amount on my alts but they keep paying back so It's ok.

My bard I rage-honed a bit and cost over 300k from 1565 1580

[shadow sonnet]

i doubt any 1580 char pays itself back in any reasonable timeframe

[cedar zealot]

i pushed my pistoleer to 1580 today and asked myself..why

[uncut dirge]

is sunshower considered a "weather" skill?

[queen grail]

They do.

[cedar zealot]

cause i dont even get time to do akkan nm on my sorc

its just lobby simulator

[high fog]

Just gotta hone all 6 pieces to 19

[cedar zealot]

or "IF Sup + friend"

[high fog]

Surely it’s not that expensive

[shadow sonnet]

how? whats the maths on it

[queen grail]

[cedar zealot]

the math is his sales history, he gets more drops than half the regulars in this chat combined

[queen grail]

I don't have any math on it, I just know I have gold + a big roster so surely something must have paid off

[queen grail]

That's cope.

[shadow sonnet]

[stark thicket]

[charred void]

so you invite someone who has no clue about his class just to replace him after 10 minutes because he clearly cant play his class, sounds like a good time waste - keep inviting trash supports

[high fog]

Imagine getting good drops

Could not be me

[cedar zealot]

he wont get replaced if he does the mechs in the raid fine

and has his aura up

[queen grail]

I almost got so many good items the last week but always one wrong thing

[cedar zealot]

and occasionally lands his debuffs

[tawny juniper]

only like 2 years

[charred void]

and dies at like half the fight, true

[high fog]

I got a 19k ring

[cedar zealot]

why would he die with ha

[high fog]

As my only drop this month

[queen grail]

My Aero paid itself off almost before hitting 1580, but I got lucky and got a 300k item on her

[tawny juniper]

actually ur ROI is

[charred void]

i forgot that you're immune to dmg with ha sorry

[shadow sonnet]

Youre coping, whatever makes you feel better. I promise you basically no one will gatekeep heavy armour paladin (in this example) at the highest level content due to support shortages. Feel free to gatekeep them and they get invited instantly to a better group tho

[tawny juniper]

not doing clown anymore

thats the ROI

[high fog]

My bard is the only 1580+ alt of mine

That paid for itself

[cedar zealot]

hell yeah brother, screw clown

[high fog]

Every other alt was negative

[queen grail]

I do clowns on my 1580's

You don't do clown?

[high fog]

And I bus on them

[queen grail]

It can drop esther!

[tawny juniper]

im just getting bored of clown after the 600th clear

[charred void]

there is a 0% chance that there will be any 1620 HA paladins in the first 2 months because no good paladin player uses HA in his 5x3 NOBODY

[queen grail]

I'm glad we don't see how many clears we have.

I'm worried I'm in the 4 digits.

And where is my SIDERAL!

[high fog]

I got a sid once

[queen grail]

[high fog]

I was dead for the last 8 minutes

[charred void]

just keep inviting whatever shit support you find for your current raids

[high fog]

And didn’t realize I got it until I was singing out

Dying = better drop rates

I’m convinced

[still lintel]

Instead of brel or kay?

[shadow sonnet]

Ok and? who are you arguing with

If there is a paladin with heavy armour at highest level content he will get into content basically instantly. No one will gatekeep or care purely because he is a support. It doesnt matter what you think, this is (essentially) objectively true. Feel free to think you will gatekeep them

[cedar zealot]

just a quick look at loa

top 100

[queen grail]

No I do those too.

[cedar zealot]

i see plenty of pallies with ha

[queen grail]

I just do clown as non-gold/non-reward raid @still lintel

[charred void]

3 or 1

[cedar zealot]

both

[still lintel]

Ooh

[charred void]

k, i'm wrong i'll get HA on my paladins next

[charred void]

koreans have surely some clue

[cedar zealot]

nah its an inferior build

but its not like having that would mean u wont get into raid groups

[uncut dirge]

why do all the paladins on jump start run heavy armor

[charred void]

because they are on ilvl

[cedar zealot]

new players, trying to learn raid?

[shadow sonnet]

yh but he will gatekeep them. he's heavy armour he doesnt know anything

[charred void]

and most likely suck at raids

[shadow sonnet]

moving goalposts

[uncut dirge]

idk, i feel like the 1540s aren't new player

cause it's literally week 3 i think

[still lintel]

Not invited on js anymore

[surreal arch]

3 weeks aint considered new?

[charred void]

i use HA in kayangel because Vital Point hit is useless and for magick stream there is too much chip dmg

[cedar zealot]

[charred void]

ok, great

[obtuse oyster]

same

[charred void]

keep inviting them

they surely are great

[shadow sonnet]

fayten needs to start gatekeeping these top KR paladins cus theyre running heavy armour

[cedar zealot]

they dont need to be great

[wintry depot]

''top''
its just people that have gear

[cedar zealot]

just decent

[shadow sonnet]

https://loawa.com/char/홀리코타

top 12 pala (no drops of ether + heavy armour)

you wont accept him will you?

[tawny juniper]

this is 1600+

ehhh top this top that is pointless discussion

most top loawa players suck

and have bad builds

[shadow sonnet]

its unclearable without drops of ether

its OVER

[tawny juniper]

these debates are really pointless

[wintry depot]

nobody said it wasnt clearable without drops

[tawny juniper]

ur just arguing over 2 shit engravings

[wintry depot]

we just say that ha is useless engraving

[shadow sonnet]

yh im just being hyperbolic

[tawny juniper]

that mean nothing and have little to no impact to u

[wintry depot]

magick stream > drops anyway

[empty sleet]

top 12 pally means nothing if its by gear score

[tawny juniper]

most paladins are not good enough to use MS unfortunately

[wintry depot]

ye

thats why they use ha

[shadow sonnet]

yh im arguing with a clown who was saying he'd gatekeep a paladin at the highest level content cus he is using heavy armour (delusional)

[wintry depot]

because they arent good

[charred void]

[tawny juniper]

but anyway this debate is stupid people get too heated over support engravings because they attach fake value to engravings that doesnt matter or impact or clear at all really

[bold aspen]

[uncut dirge]

instea dof heavy armor paladins should run crisis evasion

[empty sleet]

i wouldn't prefer to have a heavy armour pally

[charred void]

you run that as +1 if you dont want judgment

[queen grail]

And you're not getting the point about a person picking bad engravings for his class speaks about his ability to play the class, I never said you couldn't clear or do a good job with it, it for me is just a red flag about your ability to play

[quartz turret]

if ur dying on pally thats skill issue

[uncut dirge]

ngl i'm liking crisis evasion

[cedar zealot]

do u have a pally rosey

[uncut dirge]

or well, whatever the mokoko thing is when you're new

normally when you hit 30% hp you pot

[shadow sonnet]

It speaks about nothing, youre just wrong lol. whatever makes you feel better

[wintry depot]

i use ha1 on bard, its a bit of a red flag a pally using ha3

[queen grail]

Lv.1 Crisis is pretty meta on all supports with relic items.

[uncut dirge]

but with that thing you can just chill and save your pots

[still lintel]

Instead of paladins running heavy armor they should play a better class

[uncut dirge]

but paladins ARE the better class

[queen grail]

I mean, you can't even see the difference between a good or bad support so I don't think you're really anyone to judge on this.

[tawny juniper]

sure but because of the games design
if you have 2 options
A. HA pally applies everything else in build is fine in first 20 seconds
B. instead of HA pally has MS/DOE but u wait 3-5 minutes in pf

i know ur ass isnt even inspect, i know ur heat skips a beat when u see the app, and u instantly accept

i just dont get point about complaining of a negligible min-max engraving

[shadow sonnet]

3-5 minutes is a bit low by a factor of like 20

[empty sleet]

im not the one complaining

[tawny juniper]

when mf walking around with 1300 swift 800 spec and 3 gems equipped at level 4

[quartz turret]

only a 1590 one

[empty sleet]

im just saying i would prefer to not, but its not the end of the world if they're in my party

[queen grail]

I mean, that's trash too.

[shadow sonnet]

and? people will join and theyll still get insta invites

[quartz turret]

stop bullying me

[tawny juniper]

no.... thats literally griefing

[still lintel]

Dont forget hp card set

[tawny juniper]

run HA is not impacting ur performance or clear time almost at all

[queen grail]

Ok? Have I said they wouldn't get invited by other grps?

[tawny juniper]

these people getting accepted with bad gems/stats are actually griefing u

and of course the behind the scenes statistic, many supports with proper builds cant have high uptime on brand/buff

[lucid gate]

is there a break down of kayan bonus mats? are you guys still buying those?

[tawny juniper]

https://lostark.nexus/raids/rewards

[shadow sonnet]

the original message was about someone who would reluctant to invite someone based on those factors (give or take), so the point that theyll get insta invited regardless is relevant as a response

[lucid gate]

ty

[tawny juniper]

in reality

we should be working together

to shit on smilegate

for not designing good sup together

[shadow sonnet]

anything lower than 100%=not worth?

[queen grail]

I never said OTHERS wouldn't take it, if OTHERS will, then, I don't give a fuck, not my grp.

But It's IRRELEVANT to the point that they are still trash and bad supports excist because It's not as simple to play as you think.

[tawny juniper]

100% is market value, up to u if whatever % is worthwhile to u

[queen grail]

You go ahead and invite whoever you want, if you want to invite 3x3 paladin to kaya hard be my guest.

[shadow sonnet]

oo so if its lower than 100% its basically cheaper to buy from auction house

[tawny juniper]

ye

[charred void]

[quartz turret]

how do i change the mat price nvm im stupid

[empty sleet]

i mean engravings and skills feel outdated for the content half the time

[wintry depot]

artist and bard are fine

bard tho

[charred void]

full lvl 3 set

[still lintel]

HP card set and 4 gems?

[shadow sonnet]

yh youre wrong, heavy armour paladin doesnt matter if youre care youre just bad (fact)

[shadow sonnet]

and doesnt have any meaning to whether they play their class good or bad

[tawny juniper]

make copy -> change region top left

[queen grail]

I'm wrong for my personal feelings about who I want to invite to MY party?

[charred void]

this is the kind of paladin gold miner

[shadow sonnet]

type more, but youre wrong

yes

you are

[lucid gate]

is there a way i can change it to NAWest? also what does it mean at ilvl, and at item lvl w/o shards?

[tawny juniper]

yea we will see loa on winter since they will finally adress supports

[lament vortex]

You guys still going on about this topic

[tawny juniper]

make copy change region top left

[lament vortex]

[queen grail]

I'm pretty sure If I wanted too I could gatekeep people that starts with the letter B in their name and still be in the right, since It's my grp and I make the rules.

[uncut dirge]

wtf my aeromancer at 1550 got one shot in hanu

when you miss one destro

[shadow sonnet]

Just as wrong as someone gatekeeping people not having KLC30 for kayangel normal, you are wrong for gatekeeping paladins for having heavy armour

[lucid gate]

TY both

[uncut dirge]

the squishier db survived somehow

[tawny juniper]

lets say u do brel on a 1580 character, it gives 1490 mats

[queen grail]

Maybe support should learn what a shield is pre-explosion hands.

[lament vortex]

The one where he claps hands?

[tawny juniper]

at item lvl is assuming the material at item level

[shadow sonnet]

i can gatekeep people for making their character have white skin still makes me a brainlet for doing so @queen grail

[uncut dirge]

well yes, but that's my contention

[still lintel]

Yh elemental slam hurts

Alot

[uncut dirge]

ye

[queen grail]

Nah, my group my rules, suck it, make your own grp then.

[shadow sonnet]

yh youre still stupid but go off lol

[uncut dirge]

my contention is that i died, damage is fine

[lament vortex]

If you know you missed destruction

Run away when he stands up

[uncut dirge]

and others did not die

[lament vortex]

It depends on how many stacks you have iirc

[uncut dirge]

like i know you can get one shot at min ilvl

[queen grail]

I mean, again, you can't see the difference between a bad or good support so you're not really in any position to talk about supports ever.

[uncut dirge]

but at this point i think even my summoner doesn't

[lucid gate]

ahh so if its 159% at ilvl, im at 1600. Its worth it in gold value to buy it?

[lament vortex]

But Aero also has very low EHP

[charred void]

if you only had a support in your party, hope the paladin with HA survived the oneshot and was 80% hp

[wintry depot]

https://tenor.com/view/oatmeal-meme-pop-cat-popping-cat-poggers-gif-1422903012547548053

[uncut dirge]

lmao

idk how we missed the destro

[lucid gate]

@tawny juniper it says 158-159% for kayan 1-3 hm.

[uncut dirge]

we missed the destro check that i threw bomb on even

[charred void]

did you had a paladin in party?

[uncut dirge]

and hit two destro skills too

[queen grail]

Fights like Hanu is a perfect fight to notice if you have a bad support

[uncut dirge]

yes we had a paladin

yes i know it was his fault

[queen grail]

If you die from any of his big moves the sup is bad

[uncut dirge]

but i don't really care about that

[charred void]

tell him to use this skill

[uncut dirge]

i know

imo it should be impossible to fail destro with a pala

[shadow sonnet]

I specifically said that basically no one will care if a support is bad. The requirement for a support is CD gems, high swiftness, press on cooldown. If you think otherwise youre giga delusional. Supports job isnt to keep bad dps alive since they make mistakes. There are only a handful of mechs in the entire game where its purely the supports reponsibility to keep people alive. the other 99% of the time its solely the DPS's responsiblity to keep themselves alive

[tawny juniper]

yes if u value shards

[uncut dirge]

but it's not like i'm ever gonna see that paladin again

[queen grail]

Maybe you don't care if the support is bad, but I can promise you others do.

[urban obsidian]

civo in chat

[uncut dirge]

man, i bought g3 normal brel box on a 1540 char

[urban obsidian]

[uncut dirge]

why

[charred void]

relic class accs

[uncut dirge]

actually good point since it's aero

[urban obsidian]

bakabaka > every other guild

[queen grail]

"There are only a handful of mechs in the entire game where its purely the supports reponsibility to keep people alive"

Man, I'm glad you were not my support in Abrel

[urban obsidian]

so many of us

[urban obsidian]

a bad support and good support is a

huge difference

[still lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1148315743469969531.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[queen grail]

No no, no one cares about support just monkey punch the keyboard and olololol you will never be flamed

[urban obsidian]

every abilitiy doing 10s of millions+ or not is a big difference

for raids

[shadow sonnet]

do you understand what handful means

[wintry depot]

its fine, he was probably a pala
its 95% of pala gameplay

sorry fayten

[shadow sonnet]

or are you just low iq

[uncut dirge]

is the new assassin a back attacker?

[urban obsidian]

a good support can also be the difference between having ability uptime later in the raid to not, if its a class that struggles with mana

[urban obsidian]

no

you can go non positional or build hitmaster

[bleak star]

how about we move on to next topic

[urban obsidian]

its not back attack

[bleak star]

its going in circles

[urban obsidian]

i jsut got here

[high fog]

Feels pallybrain

[uncut dirge]

thank

i've been thinking

now that we can mail our alts gear

wouldn't it be a good idea to empty the auction house of rocks now

so that you can cut them when the class releases

[still lintel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/339887265507704835/813887230664900628/Taser.gif

[charred void]

whats your eu ingame nick so i can just block you - so i dont accidently invite you for anything

[still lintel]

No

[urban obsidian]

lmao

[queen grail]

Is that when you make up a number for your own argument?

[shadow sonnet]

mad?

[charred void]

no

[urban obsidian]

no

[charred void]

just want to avoid you

[empty sleet]

dont post my rock listings

[urban obsidian]

stones are only tradable once

[charred void]

no point to argue with you

[uncut dirge]

oh i se

thanks

[shadow sonnet]

Do you understand nuance. If I say there are a handful of x do you think that means 0. Clearly from your response thats what you think

[high fog]

You’ll also end up with a fair backlog of stones on random chara anyways

[shadow sonnet]

must be american i guess wcyd

[high fog]

Prob cut something good enough

[charred void]

can you give me your eu ingame nick please, i literally just swapped regions for that