lost-ark-discussions

[opaque falcon]

true..

[mint canopy]

They remove Prokel, remove G1 Vykas, but don't remove G1 Brel

Fascinating

[opaque falcon]

i have haruna surely all i need for blue

[obtuse oyster]

cause g1 brel is fine

[buoyant wagon]

1650 paladin at the honing station

[rigid aurora]

haruna

[buoyant wagon]

[mint canopy]

It's the most boring shit

[opaque falcon]

and c shiroko

[kind lotus]

Where mizu

[rigid aurora]

c shiroko

[obtuse oyster]

ah yes cause g2 is sooo much more fun

[rigid aurora]

my haruna pumps so hard no cap

[obtuse oyster]

sleeper mode for 7 people while you wait for prokel

[mint canopy]

Well it was fun for the Prokel enjoyer

[cedar nymph]

1v1ing prokel was fun though

[opaque falcon]

i have like no materials

[fervent ibex]

Hell Prokel pl0x

[opaque falcon]

she is still at lvl 1 ex

[rigid aurora]

simple solution: be the prokel

[rigid aurora]

[obtuse oyster]

that doesn't change my setence

[rigid aurora]

my ex at 7

[mint canopy]

They're nerfing everything cuz the average person can't do it

[opaque falcon]

my only ex above 4 is mika lol

[rigid aurora]

yeah but then you aren't part of the 7 people right

the other 7 are irrelevant

[nova garden]

Hey, some of us just don’t want to do it

[obtuse oyster]

I didn't say which part, you are part of

[mint canopy]

[rigid aurora]

im talking prokel cuz i saw prokel

[opaque falcon]

ill wait for the day s hanako is out for global

[rigid aurora]

3 billion years from now

[opaque falcon]

[rigid aurora]

im waiting for ichika now

(10 billion years from now)

[buoyant wagon]

no wonder NAW mat prices are so fucked lately

[mint canopy]

Wtf there are no level 7 gems in the market being sold on JS

I have a level 7

[rigid aurora]

you found chuan?

[obtuse oyster]

1655 andy soon

[gleaming pendant]

theres a 1655 in NAW already too

[obtuse oyster]

rmt region fr

[gleaming pendant]

guess the class

icee

[obtuse oyster]

sorc?

[rigid aurora]

sorc

[buoyant wagon]

slayer

[gleaming pendant]

no

yes

XD

[obtuse oyster]

LMAO

[buoyant wagon]

yeah there's an esther 8 slayer in naw

[rigid aurora]

so obvious man

[mint canopy]

What's with the surplus of Slayers

[buoyant wagon]

figured it was him

[gleaming pendant]

yea something

kjpp

[rigid aurora]

it's either sorc or slayer

[gleaming pendant]

or msth

some weird name

alphabets

[buoyant wagon]

have a friend from taiwan who is stuck on esther 6

[gleaming pendant]

or zerks

[buoyant wagon]

and has spent $20k already

[rigid aurora]

or zerks yeah

[buoyant wagon]

[nova garden]

There’s been an Esther 8 sorc in naw for a while now.

[gleaming pendant]

wheres the 1655 paladin gigachad

[gleaming pendant]

that one we all know

[rigid aurora]

nowhere

[gleaming pendant]

ninggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[rigid aurora]

all the pallies are 1580

[buoyant wagon]

that 1650 i posted

is a paladin

[rigid aurora]

yo i thought kae just said something else bro

[queen grail]

They nerfed G1 and made it fast, what more you want

[gleaming pendant]

I met before a bard from his guild, either him or his friend

few weeks ago and it was like 1610 bard

[obtuse oyster]

I barely saw the other n

[gleaming pendant]

spec build with full 10s

but not so good

[buoyant wagon]

bard in my hm akkan group is 1620+

[rigid aurora]

that's what i'm saying like

[nova garden]

My guild ran a pug with the sorc. Said they were giga bad.

[mint canopy]

I'm all for removing redundant gates, they did a good job removing some, but G1 should've been removed too

[obtuse oyster]

g1 is nerfed

[mint canopy]

I'm aware

[gleaming pendant]

remove g1 for what, it's giga snooze easy

[mint canopy]

My point is just remove it like it's so pointless

[buoyant wagon]

they need g1 for the easy gold for noobs lol

[queen grail]

I mean, you can't just remove all gates.

[mint canopy]

You know what

Just remove the game

[queen grail]

Maybe you should change to a better game for you, like, solo minecraft, or hello kitty adventure island.

[nova garden]

No, keep g1 bro

[mint canopy]

No I'm a Tetris pro

[obtuse oyster]

no, I wanna watch you suffer

[nova garden]

I’m decent at g1 Brel

[rigid aurora]

remove g1 replace it with prokel

[mint canopy]

National record in Minesweeper too

[fervent ibex]

wait whats wrong with G1?

[nova garden]

Wtf toxic

[lime dove]

G1 sucks

[mint canopy]

Boring and piss easy

[lime dove]

what do u do in g1

its liek guardian raid

[fervent ibex]

but so are all the gates once you outgear them?

[rigid aurora]

you do damage and counter like 3 times idk

[mint canopy]

I'm talking on ilvl as well

The first week we did it

[nova garden]

It’s perfect

[mint canopy]

You just breeze through like it's nothing

[nova garden]

Do some random shit for some gold

[obtuse oyster]

buuut it's different shinnnnnn, it's this gate speciiiiiffficaaallllyyyy, theeeeeey neeeed to deeeeleeeeteee cauuuse I'm not enjoying

[nova garden]

Can afk

[rugged lynx]

@fervent ibex For real can we skyblock now

[buoyant wagon]

you realize that there already is a lack of easy accessible content for people

[mint canopy]

Casual

[gleaming pendant]

they need to delete thaemine g4 also, the streamers ain't enjoying it

[fervent ibex]

say swear right now

[buoyant wagon]

and removing easy gates doesnt make that better

[fervent ibex]

i'll download it

[buoyant wagon]

[obtuse oyster]

ong

[rugged lynx]

You don't even have it installed?!

[nova garden]

Frfr ong no cyapp

[fervent ibex]

?!?!?

no

[obtuse oyster]

you're askign to remove a gate that takes like zero time to do in a geared party

[rugged lynx]

hurry up

[fervent ibex]

ok im on it

[obtuse oyster]

it's liek complaing about g1 clown when you're 1560

[fervent ibex]

how do i download it

[mint canopy]

It's a different perspective where you want all endgame content to be hard, but I guess that would ruin the game

[obtuse oyster]

you have thaemine

[nova garden]

Just do hell mode

[buoyant wagon]

fuck g1 clown, party of 3 1560 aeros cant skip simon says

[obtuse oyster]

^

[mint canopy]

Fair

[obtuse oyster]

I'm weak

[lime dove]

bro junglers in NA

are so dog

[nova garden]

There needs to be a spectrum of brain dead to very hard content.

[lime dove]

pushed into tower 4 plates

jungle 0 attempts to gank

on a winning lane too

[buoyant wagon]

this game does a horrendous job at it

[lime dove]

enemy laners 0 mobility

[nova garden]

Good thing buses exist

But it really does.

[buoyant wagon]

if busses didnt exist icy would be permanent 1415 ilvl

[obtuse oyster]

he wouldn't play la

[mint canopy]

Anyone looking to bus Brel G4? I'll pay in USDT

[nova garden]

Hopefully the solo raids they’re cooking are somewhat decent. I’m not looking for good, I just want decent.

[buoyant wagon]

solo raids dont fucking fix anything

it's a terrible bandaid

[obtuse oyster]

aint no way you typed that here

[mint canopy]

What's your suggestion

[fervent ibex]

honestly, i dont think homework raids should be hard lmao, i like how KR handled their raid difficulty for most of the raids. they intially start out hard, just to like flex on the Handless Harolds of the playerbase, and then they just nerf raids into to ground over time as they become further and further homework content. Homework shouldnt be a challenge, when there's literally challenge modes zz

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

make normal mode pretty piss easy

introduce things like battle res for that

[mint canopy]

Fair take

[buoyant wagon]

something like ff14 echo for multiple wipes

[mint canopy]

But didn't someone say Battle Res would ruin it for vets cuz it's an entirely new mechanic

[buoyant wagon]

allow normal mode to always give the same mats for progression as hard but less

[nova garden]

bro, i've literally been sitting here for 4 minutes watching this dude die trying to jump around

Forgot to censor name

Oh well

[fervent ibex]

this^ i dont like how some NM vs HM just give vastly different tiers of rewards lol

[nova garden]

[fervent ibex]

like Voldike NM vs HM

[mint canopy]

Time to ddos this kid

[buoyant wagon]

its to get you to spend lmao

[mint canopy]

[obtuse oyster]

problem is when the hw raid is barring for further content

[buoyant wagon]

they want you to swipe to 1620 instead of staying at 1600

[obtuse oyster]

like brel hm being untouched is fine

[empty sleet]

the dps was so shit i got mvp

[buoyant wagon]

because f2p getting to 1620 isnt happening unless you are playing the game like a full time job

[nova garden]

Funny thing, I actually got this kid’s internet cut for ddosing me.

[buoyant wagon]

and trying to be a market baron/buslord

[mint canopy]

Holy based?

[buoyant wagon]

nobody gives a shit about the difficulty

[mint canopy]

Who still does that dumb shit in this day and age

You have to be a literal manchild

[buoyant wagon]

if you are on ilvl you can beat the latest abyss dungeon

you just need to not suck at the game

[obtuse oyster]

why hone to 1620 then

[tidal sleet]

how come that avatar has a lush mane of hair

[nova garden]

Since destiny 2 used a badly modified version p2p connection for PvP, I could pull their IP address from my internet traffic.
Looked it up and they only had one ISP in that area. Called them and emailed them the logs.

[buoyant wagon]

honing past 1600 is such a cactus up the ass that more and more people who i know used to be light spenders/non-rmt are starting to rmt

[mint canopy]

Are you an IT major by any chance

[obtuse oyster]

they're still an improvenment for dps just not as much as the legendary from hm

[nova garden]

No

[buoyant wagon]

and people who predominantly swiped legit are mixing increasing amounts of rmt gold in to hone

[mint canopy]

Wait didn't you say you work in IT

[nova garden]

I do work in IT, but not networking.

[buoyant wagon]

tech support level 1

[rigid aurora]

youre not a teacher anymore?

[nova garden]

I do mainly surface level hardware IT. Ez kid shit

[mint canopy]

So you're just a gigachad as a pasttime activity

[rigid aurora]

or do you have just two careers rn

[nova garden]

I sub teach on the side.

[rare quartz]

Scalp's twitch picture. Wth

[rigid aurora]

ah

[obtuse oyster]

the cost for 1620 is disgusting

[buoyant wagon]

it indeed is

[obtuse oyster]

inb4 chaun says it's "free"

[mint canopy]

Now you know not to cross Icy

[nova garden]

My friend I was playing with, who is IT, helped me do it tho.

Networking that is

[mint canopy]

Come get me all the way in Iraq Icy. I even gave you a clue

[nova garden]

Idk, he just works from home and I know he has a theater in his home.

[empty sleet]

lol not again

[mint canopy]

It's like a 1v1 between the US and Iraq all over again

[nova garden]

Haven’t been to Iraq, but visited Jordan a few years ago.

[buoyant wagon]

there's at least 2 people in our discord who never bought gold and after looking at 1600-1620 honing costs

finally decided to bite the bullet

[mint canopy]

The Northern part, called Kurdistan, is bootiful

Other parts not so much

[nova garden]

I just went to see Petra. It was quite hot.

[buoyant wagon]

radiant leaps in naw are up to 121 gold now

[mint canopy]

Don't come during summer without 2 tons of sun screen

[nova garden]

I visited in June

[buoyant wagon]

support shortage is fine if you have an inhouse

[mint canopy]

[buoyant wagon]

like we have two discords combined + other people that we know which adds up to like 20+ players

[mint canopy]

If you ever decide to visit the ME again, try Kurdistan

[buoyant wagon]

so it's easy to just make groups and avoid support issues

[mint canopy]

There's a lot of expats here who will be a tour guide too

[buoyant wagon]

good thing it's not a relatable problem for me

and nobody cares im a 1 character andy

[nova garden]

I’ve also been to Israel a lot, but mostly due to my father’s business work stuff. Dubai a couple times ages ago as well if you wanna count that.

[mint canopy]

Dubai at this point is Arabian Europe

[nova garden]

I’ve been to a lot of the Middle East and Asia, but virtually none of Europe.

[mint canopy]

You and I are opposites

I've been to most of Europe but I can't bring myself to visit the rest of the ME

I don't like ME architecture and the general theme and sightseeing

[nova garden]

Only been to the ME… 4-5 times? Long ways to fly since I live in the United States.

[buoyant wagon]

dubai is a shithole dressed up in gold

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/how-i-met-your-mother-himym-funeral-high-five-condolences-gif-5516021

[mint canopy]

[queen grail]

What do you mean? You don't like blatant human rights abuse?

[mint canopy]

I have friends over there and it's horrendous

[queen grail]

[buoyant wagon]

most of that region is the same

UAE, Qatar, etc.

[mint canopy]

They're all consisted of the elites representing the country and making it look rich and cozy

Meanwhile, normal people are down in the gutter

[nova garden]

I don't remember much of the trip as I was quite young.

man, so esther stone

[empty sleet]

me tired but i need to get these guardians done because 1 day of rest is buns

[mint canopy]

Btw are you playing on JS?

[buoyant wagon]

those places are like some dystopian version of singapore where they are rich, except even less people get to enjoy the riches, and the rampant corruption/exploitation that goes on underneath

[queen grail]

Now that I can finally travel again, where should I go with all my free time, also, should I bring a laptop to still do daily homework on lost ark?

[nova garden]

Yeah, I have an account over there.

[mint canopy]

Shiee

Where are you at in terms of ilvl my fellow coomer

[queen grail]

Icy is a whale.

[nova garden]

1505?

Something like that

I’m f2p

[mint canopy]

1505 humble whale

[nova garden]

[mint canopy]

I just got 1540

I was debating whether it was worth it to lose the Mokoko buff

I did it anyway

[queen grail]

1505? Did you miss a number there, 1605.

Me too, I'm also a fresh mokoko, trust

[nova garden]

[mint canopy]

I can't relate to you Mokokos anymore

[queen grail]

[nova garden]

I’m f2p bro

[tidal sleet]

today

[queen grail]

So, what parts of NA should I avoid if I want to avoid drama and whatnot?

[uneven mortar]

feels good man getting carried by na static

[fervent ibex]

like all of USA and the bottom half of Canada

[uneven mortar]

life so ez

[queen grail]

I see.

[queen grail]

So just skip NA and visit middle of Canada and Mexico?

[nova garden]

I should get in on this

[fervent ibex]

yup

[stark thicket]

no your not, you fund lost ark with your side gig

[nova garden]

No I don’t. I have no subs.

Mostly because I never post, but yeah

[stark thicket]

ill sub first send link

[mint canopy]

Icy you're getting exposed for being a fraud

[queen grail]

Honestly tho, I want to take a week trip to some asian country, but not sure If It's worth doing just a week or If I should do two weeks / one month

[nova garden]

[mint canopy]

I'd say 2 weeks

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

go to quebec

it will be a good time

[mint canopy]

Visit Singapore/Japan/Korea

[hollow drift]

i can't think of that much reason to visit US anyway

just do canada and mexico

[queen grail]

But, that's not in asia.

[indigo flax]

does anyone have the stagger chart by class link/photo?

[buoyant wagon]

i hear the french canadians are pleasant people

[hollow drift]

we don't really have anything cool in the US

[stark thicket]

visit the us so you can watch florida man in florida

[hollow drift]

maybe some nice landmarks and yellowstone if you're into nature

but nothing all that special otherwise

[fervent ibex]

just go to a Canadian National Park instead

[queen grail]

I want to avoid being knife stabbed or shot tho.

[fervent ibex]

for Yellowstone but better

[buoyant wagon]

our police indiscriminately shoot and kill people

[hollow drift]

i mean yellowstone is objectively pretty cool

[buoyant wagon]

wait you said cool

[stark thicket]

i lived in florida all my life, nothing bads happened yet

[hollow drift]

[buoyant wagon]

nothing bads happened yet

i lived in florida all my life

[fervent ibex]

if i google "floridaman" something bad has happened.

[buoyant wagon]

[hollow drift]

love watching youtube shorts of people being harassed by police for the crime of (checks notes) existing

[queen grail]

I mean, didn't the fact that you were born in Florida already constitute as a bad thing?

[buoyant wagon]

normal human beings are not proud of the fact they are from florida

[hollow drift]

of all the states rn florida has the most drama and bullshit

[stark thicket]

I am proud to be from florida

[fervent ibex]

it all started when that bath salts guy ate someone's face

florida been downhill ever since

[hollow drift]

there are worse states but they're all bad in the same ways they've been bad since their founding

[buoyant wagon]

alabama

[hollow drift]

florida finds new and exciting ways to be bad

[hollow drift]

yea i was thinking of alabama, missouri, mississippi, and louisiana when i typed that msg

[queen grail]

Why tho

🫂

[buoyant wagon]

basically half of the south

[hollow drift]

yeap

[fervent ibex]

only Florida-Men see nothing wrong with Florida

this guys waiting to become a headline

[stark thicket]

You are right i forgot, someone tried to pay me with crack at the gas station when i worked night shift

[hollow drift]

a

[buoyant wagon]

did you take it

[shadow sonnet]

are they adding another express for voldike? did kr get one

[hollow drift]

i hope not that's easy getting shot by the cops for possession

[queen grail]

[buoyant wagon]

honestly depending on the amount of crack

it might have been worth more than the gas

[hollow drift]

come to the US if you love police brutality and paying thousands of dollars if you get sick or injured while you're here

[fervent ibex]

Expresses usually aren't based on raid-release, but rather Class-releases. "Road to Kamen" is the first raid-based express afaik

[hollow drift]

[queen grail]

In my country the cops most of the time are unarmed

[stark thicket]

they wanted cigarettes xd

[hollow drift]

i'm pretty sure you get a gun even as like a security officer in some places here

[empty sleet]

[shadow sonnet]

ah so basically nothing for voldike prob?

[buoyant wagon]

cops can get away with not carrying a gun in your country because the average person doesnt own a gun

[fervent ibex]

Well we're getting an Express for Souleater in November, right before Voldike in December. Doubt it'll go all the way upto 1600 though

Might be a 1580 express

or 1540 with 1580 support

[shadow sonnet]

oooh something in november

[fervent ibex]

something along those lines

[queen grail]

I remember when the cops here had guns on them (I don't remember the reason, I think they were trying to see how it worked out) It was so uncomfortable cops shouldn't be walking around with a loaded weapon on them

[shadow sonnet]

is this the same thing we got already? the one that gives 4 level 8 gems i have that on my main atm

[rugged lynx]

good fucking game

20 stones

not even close to 7/7

[obtuse oyster]

you don't need 7/7

[shadow sonnet]

you need a 9/7

[stark thicket]

i forgot also, 2-3 times a week my university sends out a message about theft/armed robbery, and someone getting r out in the woods on campus >.>

[shadow sonnet]

buy more peons and swipe more

its like 6/7 for 5x3+1 i think

or maybe 6/6 with perfect jewelerry

idk

[fervent ibex]

we dont know tbh. the next express chronologically (if we were following KR's expresses) would be Road to Kamen, but we defintely aren't seeing Kamen/Thaemine for like 6 months or something lol so maybe they'll just give us a duplicate of the one we have now?

[hollow drift]

one could easily flip the argument and say that the average american citizen would want a gun bc of how many cops are unafraid of shooting them, but the reality is that people just like guns and only the fuckin insane ones try to use the actual purpose of the 2nd amendment (the right to form an armed militia if needed for security and defense) as their justification, and they don't even get it right anyway

a lot of cops will even also admit that they became a cop bc they wanted a gun

[shadow sonnet]

idk whatever it is hopefully something, no way i can push any alts to 1580 without some express thing

i need 13mil more silver for 1580

from 1560

i think

just for my main

[hollow drift]

if you don't pull over for a traffic stop immediately when you do stop there's a nonzero chance the cop will exit the car and approach yours with his gun drawn

[fervent ibex]

going forward, now that we're catching up with KR, the only way to sustain multiple endgame characters would be swiping. Your best bet is to pick 2 "mains" and just push those as hard as possible and the rest should just generate gold in the 1540-1560 area

[hollow drift]

bc obviously the only reason to not stop instantly is that you're dangerous i guess

[robust birch]

I'll cut a stone for u

I cut 8/6s for fun

[shadow sonnet]

yh thats what im doing mayhem zerker my og main and scouter

[obtuse oyster]

yep or get insanely rng carried on drops

[shadow sonnet]

my zerker has 1.8mil shards 1558

[obtuse oyster]

or bus

[shadow sonnet]

idk how anyone can reroll

its so insanely expensive

[fervent ibex]

reroll, like change classes?

[obtuse oyster]

ye

[shadow sonnet]

yh

[fervent ibex]

i hear they're working on something like that in the future lol

but doubt we'll see it anytime soon

[obtuse oyster]

[hollow drift]

the state of the game when even jeff bezos himself thinks it's too expensive

[fervent ibex]

cant wait to change mains in 2026

[hollow drift]

[nova garden]

got a new item to let rot in my inventory

[fervent ibex]

yo

the hardest thing about Hanu

is how shit this map is

just stop making these fake ass Monster Hunter maps

and give us a big fat arena

with lots of space

[hollow drift]

but then how will they force u tow aste your resources and item slots on shit like flares and pheromone essence

[obtuse oyster]

hannu map is alright, minus like 2 platforms

[fervent ibex]

make the map so big that it'll still force you to flare

[hollow drift]

this game has too many like little inconsequential systems it could just delete entirely

[fervent ibex]

just so ur not wasting 30 seconds going around the perimeter looking for it

[hollow drift]

and useless items too who tf using luterras horn and scarecrows

[queen grail]

Scarecrows is used.

But make it so you can use it 3x times per fight

[hollow drift]

what do they even do

like whats the use case

[quartz turret]

no silver

[buoyant wagon]

if cops dont have guns on them here in the us, they'd be unable to do their job

even if you hate the police here you can't help but admit that uncomfortable truth

[hollow drift]

well that is certainly an opinion

[buoyant wagon]

i mean, the country is ridiculously armed to the point that it's entirely unfeasible to disarm the police

unarmed policing is only possible in places where civilian gun ownership isnt high (along with other factors like social homogeneity, strong safety nets, etc. that reduce crime)

[hollow drift]

it's not really that i don't agree with you and more that it leads into the gun control debate

[buoyant wagon]

[hollow drift]

which this isn't really the place for

[buoyant wagon]

lost ark dead game

what is there to discuss

[fervent ibex]

calling it a debate is a joke

"guns kill kids"
vs
"BUT WHAT IF THE GOVERNMENT TURNS ON US?"

[hollow drift]

lmao yeah

[buoyant wagon]

it goes deeper than that but sure

[hollow drift]

more mass shootings than days in the year so far back in like apr and rather than being "damn that's insane" people were like "well that's only bc the source used defines mass shootings as "four or more people being shot" which is too strict"

[tidal sleet]

Oh it's this time of the week again

[fervent ibex]

dont worry, i'll moderate this chat

my work here is done

[buoyant wagon]

this is now a honkai star rail chat

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991448701325291550/1125970612502933545/20230617_193207.gif

[hollow drift]

idk i'll step out bc again it's not that i really disagree with the point that police need guns in our current society and more that our current society needs drastic reforms around guns for everyone, not just cops, but i don't wanna get worked up OR get yelled at for offtopic

Instead someone should answer my question of what scarecrow does

[fervent ibex]

you use it to cheese some of the floors in the tower

and thats it

you can use it to grief some raids iirc

i forget which raids

and how

[queen grail]

I'm not going to say I know enough about all aspect of policing in US, but I for sure think there are areas they would't need to be strapped at all times, and also a proper education to become law enforcement, like years not just months and with a heavy focus on de-escalating and not escalating.

[queen grail]

Disgusting gacha game

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-face-cat-meme-cat-puke-cat-vomit-cat-coughing-meme-gif-22332765

[tidal sleet]

im almost at the ark pass yoz jar

surely its my time

[buoyant wagon]

theoretically you're not wrong but practically due to high rates of firearm ownership (and understaffing in many areas), having lethal force is pretty much necessary as a backup measure in case shit hits the fan

[fervent ibex]

surely

[buoyant wagon]

there's that famous video in the UK where some crazy dude with a knife gets cordoned by like 20 officers with riot shields...... yeah that's not happening here due to logistic/manpower issues due to how much larger cities (and the country) is

[hollow drift]

the second point alysandra made is the more salient one i feel - there needs to be more training that reinforces lethal force as the absolute last option, if we continue to exist in the country as it is now where gun ownership will be a volatile topic for the forseeable future

whatever your thoughts on the matter of their arms, the fact remains that our police resort to lethal force far more quickly than needed in the vast majority of cases

a lack of ability to deescalate is one of the biggest driving factors in our police brutality problem

[buoyant wagon]

my dms are always open for this discussion

i dont necessarily disagree since there's a lot of latitude between what constitutes a good shoot but is also simultaneously ethically questionable

and police act under the cover of legal good shoots far more often than they should

[wispy monolith]

[tidal sleet]

[keen copper]

[buoyant wagon]

undeserved

[tidal sleet]

Easy

Refined obliteration stone is the akkan ones right

[nova garden]

Yes

[tidal sleet]

A stack of them costs 42 bucks. Thats crazy. Imagine spending 40 bucks for 10 taps

I guess if youre buying stuff that way it doesnt even phase you I suppose

[nova garden]

Reminds me back of Argos days when it was literally like $10 per tap.

[nova garden]

Or was it $20

[valid turtle]

its mine

[tidal sleet]

thats actually insane

10x

[valid turtle]

5x

[tidal sleet]

oh

[valid turtle]

10x soon

[tidal sleet]

[valid turtle]

[humble heart]

Is there any way I can gear transfer a higher quality +0 brel armor to a +12 akkan armor?

[fervent ibex]

[tidal sleet]

Im doing 2 every 2 weeks atm

[valid turtle]

im doing 3

tbf

until 2 weeks ago

i had never cleared

[tidal sleet]

I only got 2 1580, cbf doing them on 1560s

[valid turtle]

so

5 clears since rework

[empty sleet]

is this clear g4?

[valid turtle]

ye

[empty sleet]

fuck

[valid turtle]

5clears hm

10x has its own achiev and pet

[fervent ibex]

this one for 10x

[empty sleet]

oh its hardmode?

[valid turtle]

mhm

[empty sleet]

yeah not getting that done lol

[fervent ibex]

yeah NM just has PLC title

[valid turtle]

sure you can

[fervent ibex]

its super braindead easy now

hard mode

go get those 10 clears

[empty sleet]

not anytime soon

[valid turtle]

i only have 3 toons that can do hm 4

[empty sleet]

idek g4 as is let alone hardmode

[valid turtle]

and im doing it as many times as i can

[empty sleet]

[valid turtle]

ah

well eventually

there is a bunch to learn but its doable now

before it was just...pain

[fervent ibex]

there's not much to learn now that parties are just always spreading meteors

meteor pattern is just "dont nuke" now lol

[valid turtle]

ya

which...is fine

lmao

[empty sleet]

hmm

[fervent ibex]

i still nuke 11 and 7

[empty sleet]

is g4 easier or same as g3

[valid turtle]

the amount of bullshit that happened before

[fervent ibex]

just to keep people on their toes

[valid turtle]

harder

[fervent ibex]

[valid turtle]

g4 is still hardest

out of all brel gates

[empty sleet]

well

[dense canyon]

G4 what?

[fervent ibex]

brel

[empty sleet]

so its gonna take me like 6 hours for a lp?

[valid turtle]

the nerf wasnt to her damage or her mechs

just to meteors

[dense canyon]

G4 brel is way harder than g3 brel

G3 is free if you know patterns

[valid turtle]

g4 has nasty overlaps

[dense canyon]

We talk about hm or nm, btw

[valid turtle]

fucking yellow knockoff pattern as you have to stand in safe zone

[dense canyon]

I guess hm

[valid turtle]

sometimes ur just fucked

[empty sleet]

wait you can fall off the map?

[valid turtle]

mhm

yep

[empty sleet]

i hate that shit

[dense canyon]

Yea

[valid turtle]

watch some playthrough of it sottac

[dense canyon]

Same as Valtan

[valid turtle]

ya but worse

[mint canopy]

You guys think the meteor nerf was necessary? They should add it back in Hard mode at least

[dense canyon]

G4 brel is something else

Endless mechanics

Over and over

[valid turtle]

i mean walking around in circles was stupid as fuck

so yes it was necessary

[mint canopy]

Perhaps

[valid turtle]

what do you mean perhaps

[mint canopy]

Maybe it should be a thing on Hard or Inferno

[valid turtle]

its bad design

to have to walk in circles

for 2 min

waiting for siderial or meteors

[robust birch]

I love circles bring it back

[mint canopy]

Fair

[valid turtle]

there is nothing skillful

about standing still

and walking back and forth

[fervent ibex]

G4 is less about the "stationary mechs at specific HP thresholds" and more about recognizing and dodging TONS of normal patterns, since pretty much all of her normal pattersn can stack and having too many stack at once will probably just kill you. in terms of actual mechs, G3 probably has more mechs than G4 lol

[mint canopy]

The idea was to know exactly where to place the meteors before yellow meteor

[valid turtle]

yes

but it was poorly implimented

because if you did too much damage

you just lose

so you are punished

[mint canopy]

True

[valid turtle]

for playing well

how is that good?

its dogshit design

[robust birch]

Do u guys like my new discord icon

[valid turtle]

sure when you are progging

its whatever

[empty sleet]

anyone else dced'?

[valid turtle]

but after you are past ilvl

lvl 10 gems

and know all patterns

[mint canopy]

Yeah your level 10 gems won't mean jack

[valid turtle]

then it turns into a waiting game

which is aweful

ya you literally clear at the same speed as an on ilvl team

because you CANT do more damage

[fervent ibex]

i wish they made G4 weekly again 😦

[valid turtle]

which is bad

honestly yes

i want the clear and the gold

[mint canopy]

How long has it been since it was turned biweekly?

[valid turtle]

start of this month

[fervent ibex]

just 3 weeks lol

[shadow sonnet]

does gate 4 basically average out to like 1.5k goldper week or something

[fervent ibex]

this would be our "second" clear of G4

[valid turtle]

so i got 3 clears 2 weeks ago

[empty sleet]

why they made g4 biweekly and doesnt increase the gold?

[valid turtle]

and will get another 3 this week

[fervent ibex]

good question

nobody knows

[valid turtle]

excellent question

[mint canopy]

Sublime question

[valid turtle]

ask jeff bezos right here

[empty sleet]

its actually a ??? move

[valid turtle]

[dense canyon]

Idk why tbh

[fervent ibex]

what sucks is that they made it ACTUALLY fun, AND THEN they slapped a longer cooldown on it

do one or the other

dont do both

[mint canopy]

It's a move

[dense canyon]

Probably difficulty level of g4

[valid turtle]

i think they are trying to cut down on burnout

[fervent ibex]

[valid turtle]

on homework

so they use lockout

but they should increase gold

so it benefits you more when you clear

[mint canopy]

It's probably burnout

Hence they removed gates

[dense canyon]

Burnout yeah I guess

[valid turtle]

yeah they removed so many gates

[dense canyon]

Doing brel 6x times per week

[empty sleet]

its not difficult anymore

[valid turtle]

vykas is like...10 min clear now? max?

[shadow sonnet]

tbh idk what smilegate want. they want players to push their chars so they nerf old raids gold (valtan vykas etc). but pushing your chars to much higher ilvls takes absurdly long to pay itself off as well. then they also nerf brel gold basically by making g4 biweekly

[dense canyon]

Is kinda exhausting

[valid turtle]

the way the game is designed

[mint canopy]

I just wish the game didn't enforce so many alts down your throat if you wanna progress well

[valid turtle]

it pushes you towards exhaustion and burnout

[shadow sonnet]

they want you to spend money basically thats it hahaha lol

[valid turtle]

because of the way gold is earned

[shadow sonnet]

thats literally it tbh

[dense canyon]

You don't need that many alts

[mint canopy]

I'm planning to make 2 alts only

[dense canyon]

You can comfortably get to 1600 with 3-4 alts max

[mint canopy]

I won't make more I'll hate the game

[dense canyon]

Let's say 3

But it will take you a bit more time

[valid turtle]

my opinion is to make all 6 gold earners

[shadow sonnet]

3 is already a lot lol

[dense canyon]

No use to play 1 main 5 alts to burn yourself out faster

[valid turtle]

but thats just me

i like this game alot

[dense canyon]

3 is fine, trust me

[fervent ibex]

smilegate when they make a game centered around driving as many alts as possible into the grinder and then being surprised when players are quitting cuz they cant hone six characters to 1660 for the big raid and also cant make any gold from the lower raids eithers

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[shadow sonnet]

tbh idk how you have any life if you e.g. have 5 1540s and 1 main (1600+). like no way you have any friends or other hobbies

[valid turtle]

[empty sleet]

3 is the rest bonus rotation

[shadow sonnet]

maybe if you have an entire static where everyone has support alts you exchange

[valid turtle]

you think people here have lives?

[mint canopy]

[dense canyon]

Thing is

You don't do cd and guardian or unas daily

On your alts

You use rested bonus

[valid turtle]

i do

if im pushing them

[dense canyon]

You CAN ofcourse do it all

Daily

[mint canopy]

In the beginning you gotta

[dense canyon]

That's what I do

[mint canopy]

For the skill points, Giant's Hearts, etc

[valid turtle]

but if im not pushing them

[empty sleet]

yo jeff im your big fan

[valid turtle]

they can sit there

[shadow sonnet]

smilegate are basically making hardmode the whale (or unemployment 5 alt) mode. who will reasonably be 1620 for voldike release for example lol

[dense canyon]

But if you burn out fast, just use Rested

[valid turtle]

there aint no way ill be 1620 for voldike

ill be chilling in akhan for a while

[mint canopy]

I think with the JS server, they'll make it easier to get there

[valid turtle]

i wonder honestly how its going to be

[fervent ibex]

if you were akkan NM ready on release, i think it's possible, but just barely

i havent done the math

but it looks

"doable"

[dense canyon]

It is easier already

[valid turtle]

i had 2 ready for akhan

normal

[fervent ibex]

yeah i think you'll be able to get at least one 1620 by December then

[valid turtle]

but ive been selling unbound mats

[fervent ibex]

start funneling up

[shadow sonnet]

yh but thats normal. being voldike normal ready will be pretty easy compared to hm voldike

[valid turtle]

ya

whats normal voldike?

[shadow sonnet]

1600

[valid turtle]

oh

[fervent ibex]

+15 akkan vs +19 akkan

[valid turtle]

ya i can have at least one there

for sure

[shadow sonnet]

hm is 1620. (whale mode)

[valid turtle]

ya

ill just chill at 1600 then

[fervent ibex]

i think more people will hit 1620 this time around vs when Akkan came out and people were debating 1580 vs 1600

[valid turtle]

no need to fomo

[fervent ibex]

NM vs HM Akkan had no real incentive except less time spent getting ur gear

but NM vs HM Voldike actually has real incentive

[nova garden]

surely i get something?

[valid turtle]

surely

[fervent ibex]

cant farm legendary elixers in NM

[shadow sonnet]

hm valtan/vykas/brel wasnt like this. even g4 brel normal week 1 wasnt whale mode

[valid turtle]

42 holy

[nova garden]

Goddamnit

[valid turtle]

lets see it

[tidal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-gif-27326947

[fervent ibex]

you forget that we ALWAYS had honing on easy mode

[nova garden]

Nothing

[fervent ibex]

how did i just hit three level 5 tripods without sage powder on skills i dont even need ...

[tidal sleet]

thats how it works

[empty sleet]

[tidal sleet]

random CD skill = go through no powder

[empty sleet]

gonna pitty every weapon hone now

[nova garden]

I could buy another 42, but I’m lazy and don’t wanna sail on my other 6 alts.

[tidal sleet]

main tripod on main skill = Fail 9 times with sage

[mint canopy]

You guys have Depp Dive 18 already?

JS server

[fervent ibex]

i thought that shit warranted bifrosts, since im doing it weekly

[tidal sleet]

some people do yeah

[mint canopy]

I do

[nova garden]

Yeah, I’m just too lazy to set up bifrosts.

[tidal sleet]

I have DD30 on main servers

[mint canopy]

[shadow sonnet]

I cant fathom new players making alts actually. They need to do vykas/valtan for weeks to get relic (im quite sure without any express). clown. level 5 tripods would takes months to get naturally from chaos too. the players i know got full tripods (inc me) on 6+ chars basically for free with xfer

[nova garden]

Takes two weeks to get full set me thinks

[shadow sonnet]

oh is it buffed now

[mint canopy]

On JS server some people already have full Ancient

[shadow sonnet]

thats not too bad then actually

[nova garden]

You get double mats for the first five clears per gate per character.

[mint canopy]

They probably bought the box from bidding

[shadow sonnet]

ooooh thats good actually

what about clown

[nova garden]

And that’s for everyone.

[shadow sonnet]

same as well?

[mint canopy]

Same with clown

Everyone should already be set level 2

[shadow sonnet]

oooh so just 2 weeks and youre full relic+clown level 2

[fervent ibex]

you can get full level 2 set in 3 weeks if you get every Bid Box

[mint canopy]

Pretty much

It's reinvigorated my desire to play the game

[shadow sonnet]

wish kayangel normal didnt take so long to get level 3

[mint canopy]

I quit right before Valtan came out cuz I realized they'd force me to make 5 different alts and it would burn me out

But the JS server with the bois is fun

[nova garden]

corpa

[tidal sleet]

Big money

I sold a purple predator book for 300 yesterday

[shadow sonnet]

smilegate nerfing gold from old raids kinda sucks tbh so few people wanna do that content now so its a bit of a dead zone although i see why they nerf it

[mint canopy]

Buy me a sirloin steak after this Icy

[nova garden]

Oh, a purple?

[shadow sonnet]

slayer is so op its stupid

full swift more bursty and more damage than igniter sorcs (i think)

[nova garden]

I sold like 20 purple deadeye books from selector bags for around 500g each

[mint canopy]

Is this JS server

[tidal sleet]

No

[nova garden]

Igniter sorc is still the highest 6-8s burst last I checked. But that’s assuming perfect rotation.

[tidal sleet]

Nobody plays js here as main server

[mint canopy]

Icy does

[nova garden]

I what?

[mint canopy]

You have an account on JS

[fervent ibex]

some KR streamers apologized for instilling that mindset early-on into the NAEU playerbase. Its cuz when KR was at the same level us, multiple alts were necessary, but with the NAEU release, we had honing on insane easy mode and we also had material events on 24/7, so there was really no need for any alts really. We just did it cuz KR streamers told us to lol

[nova garden]

I have four accounts in lost ark.

Well, rosters. Whatever.

[mint canopy]

When the game just came out, there were no events

I certainly didn't see any pre-Valtan release

[tidal sleet]

They are much more generous with events and free stuff now

[mint canopy]

Yeah I can tell

[tidal sleet]

It's easy to fill an entire roster with 1540s due to all the expresses

[nova garden]

Yeah, there weren’t events, but the login stuff and the events we got were crazy.

[fervent ibex]

Even back then, I felt like we had events back to back to back lol. But I think you're right, we didn't have many like pre-Vykas even

[mint canopy]

I peaked at 1397.5 when Argos was the shit, but it was really difficult

[nova garden]

My friend was malding for like 10 minutes straight about how he wishes he had our login events.

[mint canopy]

Had to do all islands, quests, etc

[nova garden]

Yeah, I did Argos week 1 of launch.

[mint canopy]

It was fun

[nova garden]

Guild mate had to fund me leaps tho

[fervent ibex]

argos is the only raid i didnt do on release

i was too busy selling leaps at 800g a piece LMAO

those fucking whales spent a fortune on hitting like 1400 on week 1 argos

[empty sleet]

i have no idea what time i did argos but i was there for the launch is all i know

[nova garden]

Getting to Argos g1 on week 1 was very hard to do.

G3 Argos week 1 was pretty much giga whale.

[mint canopy]

I don't remember if I did it week 1

[shadow sonnet]

mayhem was so giga busted argos early on lol

[tidal sleet]

Voldis hard on release is gonna be tough

Id rather focus on fleshing out my gems

[nova garden]

I was playing like 15 hours per day on launch. Friend needed to send me another 400 leaps so we could raid.

[shadow sonnet]

even if you somehow reach 1620 you wont get into groups probably as a dps

unless youre whale level 10 gem or static

[tidal sleet]

Im a static enjoyer

OCE has a couple of hardcore guilds that I am a part of

[shadow sonnet]

oo i see

[tidal sleet]

I just jump in with them

[gleaming pendant]

Community helper breaking tos?!

[tidal sleet]

But 1620 on release idk about that one

[gleaming pendant]

That's criminal!

[nova garden]

[nova garden]

I’m not multiboxing, so should be fine

[tidal sleet]

what about rmt

ive heard rumors that certain green names do that

[gleaming pendant]

How else does he pay for bus every week

[valid turtle]

[gleaming pendant]

You know the ans

[tidal sleet]

take him away boys

[empty sleet]

i pay for busses weekly, wish i rmt’d though so i would actually have gold

[valid turtle]

guilty until proven guilty

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HCdCeNt6RM&ab_channel=Sharpi_XD what the fuck? people get catfished in lost ark?

[gleaming pendant]

Green names doesn't rmt. Zerk mains does tho

Like chuan

[empty sleet]

sounds biased

[nova garden]

[fervent ibex]

yeah beware red names

they're all RMTers

[gleaming pendant]

You too

[empty sleet]

must be nice

[fervent ibex]

ayo

[gleaming pendant]

Slayer is also rmter

[valid turtle]

[gleaming pendant]

As seen a 1655 slayer

[fervent ibex]

jokes on you, i dont even main slayer

i just use this cuz i like the color red

[mint canopy]

I want to play Slayer but there's such a surplus of them it pushes me away

[tidal sleet]

Slayer mains are chads

Liking big boobs and proud of it is what red name means

[mint canopy]

Says the Slayer main

[fervent ibex]

yeah nothing says chad like drooling over virtual pixelated titties

[gleaming pendant]

Not you tbo

Tho

[tidal sleet]

Send me some level 10s kae

[nova garden]

10k gold

We f2p gamers need all the help we can get

[gleaming pendant]

I don't have 10s

Only 9 gamers

[tidal sleet]

How many 1580s u got now

Send me 1580s

[gleaming pendant]

5

[tidal sleet]

Lowkey sick of doing clown

I want to shove my whole roster to 1580

[nova garden]

I thought the hand in your pfp was their neck @gleaming pendant

Who tf I just ping

[fervent ibex]

Kaelang

also known as Gucci

apparently

[gleaming pendant]

?

[tidal sleet]

Weird taste but I respect it

[gleaming pendant]

Oh the spitting water

[nova garden]

I thought the hand was a neck

[fervent ibex]

he thought the pfp had a triple chin

[mint canopy]

How painful that I didn't get Heavenly Harmony to do do the Una on Whispering Islet

[rugged lynx]

I'm so hungry rn

[quartz turret]

so poorge

[rare quartz]

There's cat fish in any game

[tidal sleet]

I should cat fish someone. I need gems.

Icy send me thigh shots so I can bait people.

[stark thicket]

[stark thicket]

how many gold is this doesnt look like much

[mint canopy]

It's 10k

[stark thicket]

i count 820 gold

[fervent ibex]

he hit a lucky mokoko seed

it usually gives 10k

[rare quartz]

U literally have a perfect catfish material next to you. Lmao. Tell your wife to talk in mic now and then to make it believable you're a girl

Ez gems

[tidal sleet]

Perfect

I'm on it

[rare quartz]

And change your name to mommy raven

Done.

[cunning mesa]

thats a bad thing

[tidal sleet]

Shake what ya mother gave ya

[rare quartz]

Gotta use what u got. That's how u win in life

[nova garden]

10k

Each one of those coins is 20g rather than the normal 5.

[rare quartz]

Like icy. Using what he's got to earn big monies

Icy can easily catfish people. Dunno about his voice tho.

[rare quartz]

Icy. Can u make a girly voice?

[nova garden]

People say I sound like a 40 year old man on voice.
When people see me, they think I’m like 16-18 years old.

[rare quartz]

So u have the looks to catfish people but u don't have the voice. Still doable

[turbid oriole]

https://tenor.com/bxFpc.gif

[robust birch]

Little do they know you're really 64

[nova garden]

Why do people always think I’m a boomer here?

[cunning mesa]

arent you?

[nova garden]

[robust birch]

64 pretty old, def boomer territory

[tidal sleet]

I bet icy is 23

[robust birch]

22

[tidal sleet]

I'm on the older end here, 32 this year

Hello fellow kids

[robust birch]

Boomer

[nova garden]

Boomer

Well, I’m close to 23 so not bad.

[robust birch]

I turn 24 today and I'm having a quarter life crisis over it

[tidal sleet]

Bet, give me a 10

Just live your life by your own standards. Then you'll never has existential crisis

[nova garden]

Time to search for asmr for bedge

[supple parrot]

ne1 on nae jump? come come quick run

i will carry

[fervent ibex]

is that... Woogzie LOL

[turbid oriole]

https://tenor.com/bxFpc.gif

[supple parrot]

who?

[turbid oriole]

hi shawn

[fervent ibex]

omg it is him LMFAO

[supple parrot]

[fervent ibex]

its Woogzie

[supple parrot]

who is woogzie

??

[fervent ibex]

he got caught RMTing on stream

the meme of "just sold a 300k scrapper neck" comes from him

[supple parrot]

oh really LOL

is he streaming

[tidal sleet]

Oh that dude

Hahahah

[fervent ibex]

yeah hes streaming

i checked

[supple parrot]

oh LOL

[fervent ibex]

hes in ur lobby

[supple parrot]

dang im in a rmter lobby

[fervent ibex]

im dead

[supple parrot]

yikes

[fervent ibex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/y3ecso/nice_lies_lul_video_sent_to_me_i_didnt_make_it/?rdt=47605

[supple parrot]

if i says something about scrapper neck

will i get kicked

[fervent ibex]

LOL idk

i never watched him

[supple parrot]

im not gonna risk it

its harder to find a group

[fervent ibex]

i just recognized the name when i saw it

thats a good fucking meme

[cunning mesa]

wtf you are my age

[tidal sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/4k-caught-caught-in4k-caught-in8k-8k-gif-20014426

[cunning mesa]

what if my standards are way too high

[tidal sleet]

I remember watching that video ages ago

[tidal sleet]

Sounds like something you should sort out with yourself

[gleaming pendant]

feel at home ain't it?

feel related to the lobby leader

[cunning mesa]

but thats the only way to improve

[supple parrot]

[cunning mesa]

cant get better if you dont set unrealistic goals for yourself, like learning a language in a month

[tidal sleet]

Sure

[supple parrot]

no one even watches this guy he has like 7 viewers

[tidal sleet]

Live by your own standards

[supple parrot]

scalp has more viewers than this dude

[fervent ibex]

yeah the reason it was a big deal was because he owned the NAE Bus Station discord

hes not twitch famous or anything

[supple parrot]

we filled!

time to carry this brel