lost-ark-discussions

[quartz turret]

i cant clear tower

[wintry depot]

na not worth

[tardy tusk]

Wei mari

[wintry depot]

since months

[empty sleet]

i dont think i've seen this top before

[nova garden]

[obtuse oyster]

old skin

[tardy tusk]

Ark pass skin

was the first ark pass skin thay?

[obtuse oyster]

no

[quartz turret]

when are they adding kharmine to merchants

[obtuse oyster]

normal released skin

[tardy tusk]

normal???

[empty sleet]

they should add beatrice to the merchant in elgacia

[obtuse oyster]

shadow of stern skin

[shadow sonnet]

maybe impossible to give a number, but how long does it take to fully awaken a blue card from wandering merchants?

[quartz turret]

galatur to yorn

[empty sleet]

that too

[tardy tusk]

not to long.

[obtuse oyster]

depends on spawn rng, but under a week

[frail holly]

3 days assuming u hit all 6 spawns

[obtuse oyster]

if you're camping the merchant

[rugged lynx]

It's raiding itme

if I get jailed on this bard for a 4th week oin a row

[empty sleet]

maybe its you

kidding

[rugged lynx]

its my bad people can't count

[empty sleet]

which raid

[frail holly]

brel?

[tulip charm]

gratz, how early/late did u hit?

[lament vortex]

like 8% artisan

was 2.25% chance

[charred void]

[modest lichen]

[empty sleet]

what you mfs doing over there

[obtuse oyster]

skill issue

[supple parrot]

ur the common denominator

[stark thicket]

Carry issue

[keen copper]

setsura jr

[obtuse oyster]

gotta pick your carries better

[rugged lynx]

and with every RMT purchase you're the common denominator

[supple parrot]

[shadow sonnet]

doing lopang with only two triports is so tedious

[keen copper]

aura enjoyers

ill reup next powerpass probably

[hidden jay]

@obtuse oyster normal kaya?

[shadow sonnet]

can you still do that thing for 15$ 5-6 month aura

[hidden jay]

I support

[keen copper]

yep

[obtuse oyster]

sure

[lament vortex]

Sounds good

[hidden jay]

No room for you!

[lament vortex]

See i always get declined

[granite gazelle]

Dude I got a yearning slayer in my room

[lament vortex]

Ember hates me i knew it!

[granite gazelle]

Yearning slayer scared awya our support

[lament vortex]

@hidden jay

this what ya get for being mean

[shadow sonnet]

support shortage is gonna get worse with voldike isnt it

1620

[hidden jay]

Kimi took your place!

[shadow sonnet]

oh 1600 for normal

[cedar zealot]

Nobody will do nm

[keen copper]

[lament vortex]

Gimme one sec

[cedar zealot]

For the first time, nm won't give the same progression stuff as hm

A step down compared to earlier raids

[shadow sonnet]

ofc people will lol 1620 is insanely expensive

[cedar zealot]

Where nm gives the same stuff

But less

Spending gold on purple elixirs from nm, then later replacing then with legendary elixirs

[keen copper]

people are going to be doing nm 100% this narrative that nm is useless because it doesnt give the same elixirs as hm is so stupid

[cedar zealot]

Who designed this dog system

[keen copper]

multiple streamers have said its okay to do normal and use purple elixirs until you get to 1620

[stark thicket]

i picked you to carry.. weakling

[cedar zealot]

Yeah

Whale streamers

[shadow sonnet]

its 11 roll vs 14 roll, better to have some elixirs than zero (esp since itll make HM easier to do)

[nova garden]

When Akkan 10k

[cedar zealot]

To whom 200k gold is nothing

[stark thicket]

ice deleted my message once when i used this emoji @obtuse oyster

[shadow sonnet]

200k is probably a drop in the bucket compared to 1600->1620, no?

[keen copper]

200k is still not the most, considering if your at voldike, im gonna assume u have an established roster

as in you can get 200k in maybe 2-3 weeks

[shadow sonnet]

but yh people will ofc still doing voldike normal lol, maybe they wont use elixir (doubtful) but people will do normal if they arent hm ilvl ofc lol

but idk even normal seems very high ilvl for supports. isnt akkan HM support issues like insane

[cedar zealot]

It's insane on nm too

[queen grail]

People will for sure use normal elixirs in the start.

[shadow sonnet]

yh tru

[charred void]

dont worry, there will be enough supports in december

[cedar zealot]

After reset and 1-2 days, support shortage kicks in even for Kay hm

[charred void]

who doesnt like powerpassing a support with free lvl 7/8 gems

[shadow sonnet]

akkan nm maybe idk, but voldike is 1600

voldike release will be rough

holy shit this game would be x100 times better if supports didnt even exist

and game was balanced around 4-8 dps

[cedar zealot]

I keep saying make paladin heals an engraving

[wintry depot]

and then you do a big fuck to people that actually like to play support

[cedar zealot]

Or give healing skill runes

[shadow sonnet]

yh fuck them ngl lol

[cedar zealot]

[charred void]

with how bad support players are the game is already 3dps with a handicap

[wintry depot]

you fuck you

[cedar zealot]

Nah

If you have sup

You do more dmg

If you don't have sup

[shadow sonnet]

supports should just be gunlancer level "support"

[cedar zealot]

You can still play the game

And not play lobby simulator

Make healing skill runes

Do dmg > restore some health

Or let us carry more pots

[shadow sonnet]

yh

i bet the majority of supports are alts. when you can no longer really push alts to current content level cus its too expensive

[wintry depot]

or get a friend who play 6 supports and never get to worry about it

[cedar zealot]

They are alts

5 dps 1 sup roster

[shadow sonnet]

[charred void]

there are not that many 6 support roster players

[empty sleet]

maining a supp is

[cedar zealot]

"sup trading - lf dps" Kay hm

Hilarious

[shadow sonnet]

cant wait to push my support alt to 1620 so i can watch other people do damage (i am a cuckold)

[cedar zealot]

Charge them money

To play with them

Fck dps players

[cedar zealot]

Including me

[wintry depot]

we are

[keen copper]

i wish loa supports were like ffxiv supports

[charred void]

i'm gonna make fat gold with voldick release

[cedar zealot]

[shadow sonnet]

i think im just going to accept that smilegate are making hard mode the whale mode, and normal mode the peasantmode

[cloud kestrel]

yeah this is the last time im doing challenge velganos wtf

[charred void]

i dont play 6 supports, i dont make duplicate classes

[tidal sleet]

Can you replace the normal elixirs with hard ones later

[cloud kestrel]

76% CF

[charred void]

well, technically

[wintry depot]

oh sad

techncally you have 2 pala no XD

[charred void]

i have 5 palas

1600, 1555, 1548, 1545, 1490

[empty sleet]

nerd

[charred void]

but on different region/roster

[cedar zealot]

They did that with brel akkan and thaemine

[empty sleet]

this makes me sad

[cedar zealot]

But they said it'll be different for kazeros

Guess we'll have to wait and see

If hell will be the whale mode

Or world's first race event mode

[charred void]

i mean a lot of people just do normal brel instead of hard

its just faster

[tardy tusk]

5k per person

[tidal sleet]

it will only be a small portion of the playerbase doing HM

[charred void]

per hour

[tidal sleet]

at release

it seems impossible to reach atm

[empty sleet]

is hard even worth bothering over? lol

[tidal sleet]

yeah it is

[tardy tusk]

[tardy tusk]

better elixirs.

[keen copper]

hm is for acc gamba

[empty sleet]

i mean for brel

[tidal sleet]

yeah anc accessories

and more gold

[tardy tusk]

an

[tidal sleet]

plus feeling of superiority

[tardy tusk]

if i do hm i just do 1-2

already got pet

fuck hm

[empty sleet]

yeah cube sounds like a royal bitch on hard lol

[tidal sleet]

i think G3 is the fairest gate on hm

[keen copper]

theres more going on but still not terrible

[charred void]

beautiful

[tardy tusk]

why u ew me

[tidal sleet]

its challenging and punishes you for mistakes

but its not that much harder

[empty sleet]

fair but without comms

[keen copper]

needing comms

[tidal sleet]

git gud

[charred void]

some people probably still using screenshare on clown g2 maze

[wintry depot]

i do because im dumb

[empty sleet]

whats so bad about that?

[wintry depot]

but hey i can use my second screen for it

[cedar zealot]

Like me

[tardy tusk]

i dont have the time for 1-4 hm

1-4 nm is just 20 min

moreless.

[charred void]

quick 20min

unless

[empty sleet]

if you dont play the way others play the game you're clearly

[tardy tusk]

i do with my guild so

[cedar zealot]

[tardy tusk]

at least the 3 supports and 2 main dps.

i have 1 1490

but that joever.

[tidal sleet]

I wouldnt do G4 HM without people who have cleared before

[charred void]

you're in a reclear party, 4 people alive, leader passes lead to someone in brel g3 cube at 20 bars and the guy uses nine instead of wei

[tidal sleet]

or at least 7 reclears teaching 1

[empty sleet]

i could probably easily join a reclear

but i dont trust people with brands

[tidal sleet]

G4 HM is currently the most difficult content we have

brands are fine in hm

theres way more of them

[cedar zealot]

Once voldis is out

[empty sleet]

stop defaulting to HM i've never done it

[cedar zealot]

It's gonna be more common for the average pug group to be able to burn down g4 hm brel

[tidal sleet]

maybe

idk

[cedar zealot]

As long as nobody dies at shandi, should be a much freer fight then

[tidal sleet]

People will still die before or at shandi

you watch

NM it doesnt matter if people die really

[cedar zealot]

The reason people still die at g4 hm

Is cause people who used to skip it

Are now trying to get that sweet raw gold

[tardy tusk]

remove instakill mechs and people will helps new players

easy.

[cedar zealot]

So it's basically a wave of inexp people

[tidal sleet]

G4 isnt meant to be an easy raid

[cedar zealot]

Flooding g4 hm reclear parties

[tidal sleet]

that you can just walk in for free gold

[cedar zealot]

Can do that with nm I'm pretty sure

If everyone's 1560+

[tidal sleet]

yeah if you get carried

[tardy tusk]

with the hellmode changes, move the instakill mechs to hellmode

[tidal sleet]

people still will die at shandi

or drop the single gold in the wrong spot

[wintry depot]

i mean people still cant do the mech at x0 in g2 hm so

[charred void]

its funny that wipe mechs always target the shitters so you wipe

[wintry depot]

i think i got only one clear that did it

[obtuse oyster]

@hidden jay ggs

[hidden jay]

Thanks for joining and tolerating my creepy guildmates

[tidal sleet]

weakest part of the structure causes the building to collapse

[hidden jay]

[tidal sleet]

pretty normal

[empty sleet]

is LOS 12 useful

[cedar zealot]

In certain gates yeah

Might as well work on the beginner card set since it's easier to farm

Deep dive

[charred void]

eww

[tidal sleet]

DD18 >los18

[charred void]

gatekeepers dont like that

[empty sleet]

DD good for deadgeye

[cedar zealot]

Toxic sup main gatekeeper

[empty sleet]

I did my first brel 1-2 today

still havent done kakul

[charred void]

wdym i literally invite anything

[cedar zealot]

You never invited me

[charred void]

its always 50/50 if the person sucks or not

[empty sleet]

Someone teach clown

[obtuse oyster]

no circulate

[cedar zealot]

Deserved

[charred void]

sorry that we have a long distance relationship 😳

[empty sleet]

Fat heal damn

[cedar zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-anime-embarassed-girl-gif-15974488

Alright bed time

[empty sleet]

Is this ok for starter brace

[cedar zealot]

For deadeye?

[empty sleet]

ya

[charred void]

you want 2x mainstat as starter

[queen grail]

:sniffa: do I smell someone sneaking their friend into Hanu carry

[empty sleet]

oh so like special and dex

?

[charred void]

if mean if this is your very first one thats better than nothing

[cedar zealot]

Just grab a 2x main stat, should be cheap on ah

[empty sleet]

or special and crit

[cedar zealot]

Doesn't even need to be that high stats since you will replace it later

[obtuse oyster]

that one

[charred void]

2 of what you need

[obtuse oyster]

^

[cedar zealot]

Spec crit for pistoleer

[empty sleet]

Im scared of hitting 1540 cuz engraves so nice to have ffree 5x3

[empty sleet]

could easily be an alt

[obtuse oyster]

engraving goes on till it expires

[charred void]

you keep engravings unti levent ends

[obtuse oyster]

not based on ilvl

[empty sleet]

WHAT

lets goooo

[cedar zealot]

Yes

But wait

This one ends on November

And then we get another one

[cedar zealot]

If it's the same like this one

[empty sleet]

once you reach 1540 you cannot change your style

is all

[cedar zealot]

You won't be able to use that

[empty sleet]

1580 plox

😄

[charred void]

try getting gold for accs to buy before the event expires

[obtuse oyster]

^

[charred void]

and the later you buy, the more likely it is that other people do the same

[empty sleet]

Is there an event rn

like

island event

[charred void]

i.e. no accs on auction house

[obtuse oyster]

or overpriced

[empty sleet]

omg

100 gold coins

i need

at least i have a stone for when the engraving ends

nice stone

[hidden jay]

Gonna do akkan

[empty sleet]

Bring me

[hidden jay]

[empty sleet]

(im 1505)

[keen copper]

surely i get into a hm akkan lobby this week

[empty sleet]

[keen copper]

[charred void]

me too

[cedar zealot]

What class

[keen copper]

gs

[empty sleet]

the fuck

[wary hemlock]

The engraving helper disappears after event right?

[cedar zealot]

Should be fine

[empty sleet]

yes

[cedar zealot]

Crit synergy

[queen grail]

Was more that they put the limit to join at 1560 and then sneaked a 1540 into it.

[keen copper]

i need better gems though

competing against full 10s

[empty sleet]

imagine having gems

I finally realized how useful hope amulets are

holy

my dmg is nuts now

[charred void]

i had that in clown happen and the grp disbanded in 3 seconds

[keen copper]

ill probably buy some level 9s this week

[cedar zealot]

This week I get my last lv9 on main

Good enough till kazeros nm

[keen copper]

f2p gaming

[empty sleet]

i aint got shit for cards either lol

[queen grail]

It's just cringe to do.

[charred void]

ye people have that on jumpstart already

it is

[obtuse oyster]

true f2p unlike chaun

[keen copper]

[queen grail]

Ice you Los30 yet? @obtuse oyster

[obtuse oyster]

nope

[queen grail]

Bruh.

[charred void]

for what

[queen grail]

[charred void]

dont you have like 20 bards

[queen grail]

Where is your nin's?

[obtuse oyster]

something like that

and my arcana

[charred void]

so no need for los

[obtuse oyster]

she needs it

[queen grail]

So you got Cliff/Spear and plan30 yes? @obtuse oyster

[obtuse oyster]

[obtuse oyster]

yeah

[queen grail]

[charred void]

man my brain is fried after 7 clowns, 7 brels, 2 kayangels today

[obtuse oyster]

but I'm not gonna waste exp on plan 30, but I could get it if I wanted too

[obtuse oyster]

it do be like that, 3 1-4 brels got me

[queen grail]

I only did 5 clowns and 1 kaya.

[keen copper]

ive done no raids today

[obtuse oyster]

did 3 1-4 brels and 2 kayas

[charred void]

7 kayangel, 1 akkan, 1 brel left for this reset

[empty sleet]

i've only done 1 brel nothing else this reset lol

[queen grail]

7 akkan 12 1-4's and 11 kaya left.

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lies-liar-bullshit-so-that-was-gif-15334130

[charred void]

wondering

[empty sleet]

yeah why does it say expected

[queen grail]

The fact that I still have not gotten one Sideral.

[charred void]

if someone ever got a sidereal from clown or kayangel

[obtuse oyster]

7 akkans?

[nova garden]

Expecting dissapointment

[queen grail]

Is just so dumb

[queen grail]

Yes?

[nova garden]

I’ve never gotten an Esther stone

[queen grail]

You also haven't done as much raid as me, so, shuss.

Go do your raids

[nova garden]

Hey

[charred void]

icy you can buy them from vendor

[nova garden]

I’ve done Brel g4 once and clown g3 eight times.

[keen copper]

why is the db so far away

[nova garden]

I’ve done a lot of raids

[empty sleet]

wait you've done g4 but not g3?

[queen grail]

You do 12 kaya 12 abrel 12 clowns and 7 akkans weekly?

[queen grail]

Living on the edge.

[nova garden]

[obtuse oyster]

he's cooking

[queen grail]

More like getting cooked.

[nova garden]

No, but since I pay gold for my raids it makes it equal to that.

My rates should be increased since I spend so much gold.

[queen grail]

You shouldn't get loot from driving so much 🚌

[obtuse oyster]

cope

[nova garden]

I’m sure I’ll get a good drop this week.

I need to fund more buses.

[queen grail]

Anyone else also refuse to join grps putting KLC18 in their title for Sonavel?

[obtuse oyster]

I mm

[nova garden]

I just refuse to use pf for guardian raids

[empty sleet]

i dont even do monkey im not picky of who i get

[queen grail]

I don't mind PF, but no way I'm joining any party gatekeeping a guardian raid.

That just smells of bad players.

[shadow sonnet]

level 10 gems for hannumatan min

[queen grail]

The emotes for a GL during MVP screen.

[empty sleet]

how come we haven't gotten stronghold research or something to get a higher life energy cap?

[uneven mortar]

every fucking week

they need to fuck off with support already holy shit, no one wants to play them no matter what they do

[empty sleet]

just spend 40k and you wont have supp issue

[quick moth]

is it possible to get a gienah key ?

[uneven mortar]

just allow unlimited potion, give yearning as a raid buff

[obtuse oyster]

chaun said there is no support shortage

[empty sleet]

chuan has a static

[obtuse oyster]

ik

I'm memeing my boi

[uneven mortar]

[tidal sleet]

our support is away this week for our static

[charred void]

[keen copper]

imagine having a static

[tidal sleet]

hopefully can pinch another one from our friend pool

[obtuse oyster]

I have a akkan static

[tidal sleet]

I have both of my runs covered though which is nice

[empty sleet]

i think the closest im gonna get to a static is my guild lol

[tidal sleet]

we did both of htem in 1h45m last saturday

[keen copper]

ive pugged all 9 of my akkans

in total

not 9 akkan chars

[empty sleet]

uh huh

[obtuse oyster]

I've only on pugged 1 akkan so far

[empty sleet]

exposed themselves

rmt

[obtuse oyster]

but that's because I was touching grass

[queen grail]

This guy has had the grp up some time, and I know he has easily 10++ applicatiants

Guess he only want them giga juicers to save a min.

[charred void]

10min lobby, 5min boss fight

[queen grail]

Time to spend 10min as a support making a Sonavel grp and save 45 seconds.

[nova garden]

my average tree kills are around 5 minutes in mm

[keen copper]

why do wf aeros use this gem, like it doesnt seem worth it

just use that gem spot for another skill

igorning the fact its level 10, but just in general

[gleaming pendant]

there's no other usage for other skills

[empty sleet]

This is for gold right

[queen grail]

That event? Yes.

[empty sleet]

👍 thanks u

[queen grail]

What else you wanna use?

[keen copper]

spread cd gem

[queen grail]

No.

[nova garden]

spread what you say?

[keen copper]

[obtuse oyster]

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-angry-gif-24550380

[keen copper]

pd predator

[queen grail]

Akkan 19 honing, what a whale.

[obtuse oyster]

brel goof ball

[nova garden]

deserved

[queen grail]

[nova garden]

what in the fuck

[keen copper]

[charred void]

guy got mad about non-critting skills

i had a 18m brutal impact earlier

[gleaming pendant]

why would you wanna put a cd gem on that, it's already low enough as it is and you have 2 current occ skills to rotate, and they don't do much damage.

[charred void]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-angry-punho-fechado-de-gif-26104429

[queen grail]

Damn, It took so long finding a grp for sonavel.

A whole 15 seconds

[obtuse oyster]

the 17 to 19 stretch sucks

[queen grail]

Yeppers

[empty sleet]

holy it finally happened

[keen copper]

[urban obsidian]

[queen grail]

How many bards you got now?

At Akkan.

[empty sleet]

the fuck is this

500 first try

[urban obsidian]

Spy x family season 2 the 7th

[nova garden]

go fuck yourself

undeserved

[queen grail]

Pity system?

[queen grail]

Congrats little mokokok

[nova garden]

SHIT

[queen grail]

Be nice to the mokokok you bitch

[nova garden]

I'M NEVER LUCKY

[empty sleet]

[nova garden]

[empty sleet]

spent like 1200+ leaps and aint got shit

I am deadgeye

[nova garden]

yeah, and you just got omega buffed

i'm about to get nerfed two times in a row

[obtuse oyster]

1

[empty sleet]

Deadeye buff?

[shadow sonnet]

does enhance weapon deadeye still have to back attack

[queen grail]

I see.

[obtuse oyster]

I don't drop 100k+ accs

[queen grail]

[empty sleet]

ya

[nova garden]

me neither

[shadow sonnet]

[nova garden]

i'm never lucky

[queen grail]

You shut up Icy you dropped a 400k one.

[nova garden]

nah, that was an ornate lie i made up

[queen grail]

[empty sleet]

Someone in my lobby got 100k o.O

sheesh

[nova garden]

[ancient tundra]

Be Nice to the mokoko

[queen grail]

@ancient tundra

[ancient tundra]

[nova garden]

i've been super nice to them writing guides and stuff

[empty sleet]

I know icy

[ancient tundra]

Ok fair

[nova garden]

but i haven't been lucky as of late, so maybe i'm doing it wrong

[empty sleet]

Its ok

[nova garden]

so i gotta be super mean now

[shadow sonnet]

this is legendary bard skin?

[queen grail]

How does that work? Isn't that like a person buying pastry going around writing a cook book for how to make pastry?

[nova garden]

icy toxic arc

[ancient tundra]

Best arc

[queen grail]

Legendary Wardancer Season 3.

[ancient tundra]

Aly did u see striker s

[empty sleet]

none of that looks like bard besides the gender

[ancient tundra]

It slays

[shadow sonnet]

thats such a dogshit skin lol

[queen grail]

So is your profil picture, but here we are.

[nova garden]

def a loser this time around

[queen grail]

[shadow sonnet]

i saw the warrior skins they all look good

[nova garden]

reaper and slayer winners

[ancient tundra]

Wd skin is better than s2 imo

Ngl

[nova garden]

blade also wicked

[empty sleet]

soulfist

[queen grail]

Imagine calling Warrior a good season 3 skin.

What was the direction to it? SPIKES AND BULKY!

[ancient tundra]

Summoner is insane

[nova garden]

true

[ancient tundra]

Ngl

[queen grail]

SF has to much, things on it.

[nova garden]

but i deleted sf
one of the few female classes i don't play anymore

[empty sleet]

you know

[queen grail]

If they simplified it a bit.

[empty sleet]

striker sure has a lot of shirtless skins

[shadow sonnet]

yes and it looks cool, destroyer gets a cool axe

[queen grail]

Destroyer looks cool, warrior looks trash.

[obtuse oyster]

?

[nova garden]

pally skin looks sick ngl

[obtuse oyster]

sf is fine

you smoking some good shit

[shadow sonnet]

tbh berserker skins are always kinda bad unless the skin is brightly colored, cus you cant see dark skins under mayhem effect

[nova garden]

if only they didn't have those leggings on

[empty sleet]

the warrior skins fit them

[queen grail]

Remove the blue and change pants

[ancient tundra]

Why does it give me time together vibes

Skin

[nova garden]

just remove pants

[empty sleet]

whats wrong with the necklace

[obtuse oyster]

aka you just want coomer skin

[empty sleet]

aly just wants 2 pieces of cloth for a skin

worse than icy

[queen grail]

I mean It's ALREADY a coomer skin, might as well make it a good one.

[obtuse oyster]

not even

[queen grail]

It just looks, weird.

[obtuse oyster]

it's more martial artist then WD and Scrapper

[queen grail]

Also, why is the necklace in that angle?

[obtuse oyster]

fr

[empty sleet]

personally the skin looks nice to me

[queen grail]

I just posted Wardancer saying It's nice and it has way more clothes on it.

Ya'll are wonky.

[obtuse oyster]

it's honestly the better of the 3 for the female MA

[ancient tundra]

Wd is the most covered one

[queen grail]

Nah, Wardancer won Season 3 off Martial Artists.

[obtuse oyster]

striker and sf takes the w for fighter

[queen grail]

Wardancer yes.

[ancient tundra]

Striker Wins for males

[obtuse oyster]

theme wise is just meh

[shadow sonnet]

this is actually a legendary skin? lol

[empty sleet]

the hooded cape thing, idk what to think of it lol

[obtuse oyster]

yea

kr season 3 leg

[ancient tundra]

U can prob hide it ig ?

[obtuse oyster]

yea

[empty sleet]

1 sec

[queen grail]

They need to make it so we can customise better, colour is a nice start but why can't we hide individual sections better, like cloaks and such.

[glossy river]

jump server worth smt?

[obtuse oyster]

no

[ancient tundra]

No

[empty sleet]

if i had a shirtless top and didnt have the balls its pretty close to that jar skin lol

[ancient tundra]

Okkk

Cool looking skin

[queen grail]

Are you saving up materials for soul eater? @ancient tundra

[ancient tundra]

Ofc

[nova garden]

i'm also saving

[ancient tundra]

And leg book

[nova garden]

i'm gonna replace one of my gs with her

[ancient tundra]

As soon as my wd is 1580

I giga save up

[queen grail]

Hope it's a fun class to play Will be my 13'th char.

[ancient tundra]

1561 so one day

She is

And she has really good looking skins

Too

[queen grail]

Not sure what I feel about the season 3 one

[ancient tundra]

Tbh i liked it

[nova garden]

i didn't like the s3 one, but the other one is fine

[empty sleet]

velg bitch here we go

[nova garden]

i can still obtain latex mommy

[ancient tundra]

Na fam

Run away

Don t do it

Not worth the pain

[empty sleet]

i've done it twice already whats a 3rd time

[ancient tundra]

I m skipping that mf

Since 2 weeks

[empty sleet]

free gold

[ancient tundra]

Lmao

[queen grail]

It's easy, just do it.

[empty sleet]

rather do velg than monkey

[ancient tundra]

I like monkey more

[queen grail]

[nova garden]

wtf

[queen grail]

Monkey is super easy what the?

[ancient tundra]

That is when ppl counter

[nova garden]

why don't you like monke?

[ancient tundra]

[empty sleet]

monkey moves too much for me

[ancient tundra]

Oh ye striker

[queen grail]

[ancient tundra]

Sorry to hear that

[robust birch]

Monke best content

[queen grail]

Monke is pretty predictable and easy to play around tho.

[nova garden]

i play monke on a pm gs, punisher slayer, and three pred slayers

[empty sleet]

maybe if you do it 90x a day

[ancient tundra]

Bro i love it when he jabs

[empty sleet]

[ancient tundra]

Free dps window

[robust birch]

I love the cutscene at the end

Hot monke ass

[ancient tundra]

[nova garden]

furry

[queen grail]

You mean he's easy if you do it 90x a day ye?

[empty sleet]

predictable

[queen grail]

Just learn his moves and then you will see how easy that monke really is.

[ancient tundra]

The purpose of monkey ig is to master dodging

Or idk

[obtuse oyster]

pattern recognizition and positioning

[empty sleet]

[ancient tundra]

Ye pretty much

[empty sleet]

dodging monkey is easy

being able to get my rotation done is not

[ancient tundra]

U play eso flurry ?

[robust birch]

It is if u know when he's gonna stand still

[empty sleet]

no

[robust birch]

And u don't have goober spinning him in circles

[ancient tundra]

Yee

[empty sleet]

oh

2 supps

[ancient tundra]

Should be fine

Surely

Enough dps

[queen grail]

[ancient tundra]

[obtuse oyster]

summoner is cooking but not with gas

[queen grail]

Honestly, if they changed MM to have an option to pick a role and only pair up when you had 1/3 sup/dps then I would MM all day.

[robust birch]

He's got mokoko buff he's gucci

[obtuse oyster]

just be the support

[queen grail]

What's the numbers on what's best in terms of surivability, I mean, I just go hp on all but is there some numbers behind what's best?

[obtuse oyster]

why did they intentionaly change from max hp to magic defense

[robust birch]

[queen grail]

I have 3 supports, but I'm not a huge fan of multiplaying the same class.

So I only play unique classes.

[ancient tundra]

Play reworked wd

One day

[queen grail]

Also, today I've been 20 days of no soda or candy

[ancient tundra]

[queen grail]

I still like my WD but would love a rework and buff.

[ancient tundra]

Same

Make fi not support

[robust birch]

Make reaper not support

[obtuse oyster]

definitely forgot to turn the burner on

[ancient tundra]

Wait why not communication overflow as +1 ?

[queen grail]

In theory swift classes should never be the main damage of a class same as how hit master shouldn't outdps equal geared/skilled entropy.

[obtuse oyster]

cope

[hidden jay]

My akkan went so fast

[obtuse oyster]

you're already out

sheeesh

[hidden jay]

I want more

[nova garden]

Take me with you

[hidden jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972160327754055720/1156777170560110712/image.png?ex=65163431&is=6514e2b1&hm=c05f6f43255ef2105f67a8f825fe3ddb0cbaa490cdad0b6f89f80ba7dce8d37c&

[nova garden]

You’ll be able to enjoy Akkan for hours

[hidden jay]

Our party was on the creen

[queen grail]

Why cope.

[obtuse oyster]

Radiant ayaya

[hidden jay]

All 3 gates

[ancient tundra]

@queen grail oh aly btw lazt g1 g2 clown i did i got 50% cruel fighter as fi wd

[queen grail]

Would be weird if hitmaster and swift had higher ceilings.

[obtuse oyster]

cause not all classes play the same or output damage in the same manner

[queen grail]

also, why G1-2? you did 3 too right?

[obtuse oyster]

same thing saying hitmaster should be lower then entropy

it's w/e the devs want

[ancient tundra]

I never did g3 ngl

Always wanted to try it

[obtuse oyster]

back attacking is not hard

progging, sure.

people 180ing, okay

[queen grail]

Back attacking is a condition, that's enough for it to be objectivly harder to pull up at 100% uptime..

[obtuse oyster]

but stop this shit, like entropy is some pinnacle hard class

[queen grail]

So you think a hitmaster swiftclass would be balanced if it also had the highest ceiling?

[obtuse oyster]

conditonal =/= should be higher ceiling

surge blade got nerfed and is what a high ceiling class

[queen grail]

The more hurdles you need to jump the higher the payout no?

[obtuse oyster]

no

cause most of these classes aren't hard

the gameplay isn't hard

you shouldn't be gimped from mvping because you want to play swift

or because you want to play hitmaster

[queen grail]

So if they buffed swiftflux to outdps everyone on equal skill & gear that would be fine design?

[obtuse oyster]

it won't be buffed out the ass, to become s++ tier because the devs have their own image of what classes should be performing at

should it be a solid class

yeah

is it gonna take 10+ buffs to get it there

yea

[nova garden]

legendary name wtf

[ancient tundra]

[turbid oriole]

[keen copper]

[ancient tundra]

[kind geyser]

do these give wings

[obtuse oyster]

aint no way

[empty sleet]

[kind geyser]

wtf

streamer privilge

[queen grail]

I can bet you, if they ever made something like Swiftflux into a powerhouse on equal skill/gear people would raise hell, and I main swiftflux.

I still think higher difficulty should have some form of rewards, and before you say back attack is not hard, sure, you can say that, but try and maintain a 100% back-attack with high uptime that's not exactly easy

[empty sleet]

10/10 summoner

[queen grail]

I'm not saying It's some ultra hard either but It's for sure harder than just, standing wherever at any and all angle shooting your stuff

[ancient tundra]

Striker curry

[keen copper]

1582 with expertise neck

surely you can buy the proper neck

[empty sleet]

wtf

[queen grail]

[ancient tundra]

Nice gem contrast

[obtuse oyster]

most attacks require you to hug or be close to the boss

[empty sleet]

[obtuse oyster]

and even kaya is annoying gate for hitmasters

[queen grail]

I don't really think that's because you're hitmaster tho.

[obtuse oyster]

didn't say it was

but saying it's hard to hit the boss as a back attacker when most of these legion raids the boss is realivitely stable

[queen grail]

Just said it since the "for hitmaster".

And sure, a lot of attacks require you to hug or be close to a boss, but a boss can be huge, he can hug walls, he can have attacks shooting on frontal/back etc etc.

[buoyant wagon]

entropy is just questionable design in a game where you can't hold enmity, bosses have random normal patterns, and there's no skill like ff14's true north

[queen grail]

Like Akkan, that raid is trash for frontal due to all the shit attacks there.

[obtuse oyster]

100%, agree random aggro with teleporting

unfun time

[queen grail]

True north?

[buoyant wagon]

negates all positional requirements for 10s, has 2 charges, 45s cd

[obtuse oyster]

but I don't think that should = entropy classes should be more rewarded for just hitting the back

[buoyant wagon]

all dps jobs in ff14 have it

[queen grail]

I see

[queen grail]

But then what's the point of entropy if not to reap a higher reward?

[obtuse oyster]

what's the point of anything

[queen grail]

Same as why slow yourself with spec if you can just be zoom zooming around and get the same damage?

[obtuse oyster]

why play scrapper when wd is better

why play sorc when arcana is better

[buoyant wagon]

why play db when slayer is better

[obtuse oyster]

^

[buoyant wagon]

actually true though

[nova garden]

What, what’s button combo after Brel g3?

[obtuse oyster]

like you can have different things for the sake of it being their

[nova garden]

Like to move to g4?

[obtuse oyster]

people that enjoy it will play it

[fervent ibex]

left, up, up, right

[nova garden]

Thanks

[fervent ibex]

the buttons are random

[obtuse oyster]

slayer was a mistake

broken ass class

spec and swift

[buoyant wagon]

slayer is just a horrifically imba class

[queen grail]

Classes gets balanced and tuned and changed, I wouldn't say that's the same as a conditional requirment to play a spesific way.

[buoyant wagon]

punisher used to be broken

now predator is broken

[obtuse oyster]

why do they need to heap a bigger reward

and don't say because conditional

[queen grail]

Most game has this design philosophy don't they? The more hurdles you have to jump over to do damage the higher the ceiling your damage can reach.

[obtuse oyster]

no

cause mages are always the best dps

yet people still play assasins and warriors

[empty sleet]

people only wanna do turtle huh lol

[queen grail]

You mean sorc or mages as a whole?

[buoyant wagon]

people dont matchmake challenge guardians if they can help it

[obtuse oyster]

the archetype

not for la

but for mmos

[lime dove]

bruh they needa rework life skills

[buoyant wagon]

because you get absolute mongoloids who queue into it with no engravings

or the wrong stats

[lime dove]

feels like it takes forever

to burn 10k

[queen grail]

I mean that's just objectivly wrong that "the archype of mages are always strongest".

[obtuse oyster]

they are designed as range dps with high dmg output

in most mmos

[buoyant wagon]

entropy having a higher ceiling is a mixed bag

old content favors entropy too much and that's not good

new content fucks over entropy too much and that's not good either

[lime dove]

back attack mage when

[queen grail]

I mean, I played wow for years, and as I said for classes still stand true, they get buffed changed balanced and tuned up.

[lime dove]

[buoyant wagon]

balance in this game is always going to be somewhat questionable because there's no dps meter

[obtuse oyster]

cause there's no way to balance all the classes

[buoyant wagon]

maybe the devs have something they can see in the background

but you have heinously imba stuff like punisher slayer pre-nerf

[empty sleet]

ah yes

[obtuse oyster]

they supposedly do

but I think it's just a performance meteric that takes avgs

[lime dove]

wtf 0 quality?

didnt know thats possible

[buoyant wagon]

they balance off performance metrics of the average player

[obtuse oyster]

but doesn't really work

[stark thicket]

Do you understand help me

[obtuse oyster]

when the avg player sucks on certiain classes like arcana

[stark thicket]

[lime dove]

Reaper

[obtuse oyster]

or are gig-carried by easy classes like co summoner or aero

[obtuse oyster]

nah, reaper was in the slayer bucket

giga-busted on release

[lime dove]

whats that

oh

[stark thicket]

[lime dove]

whyd they nerf it that hard

lol

[obtuse oyster]

no

[stark thicket]

supposed to be big brain

[obtuse oyster]

it's 10pm

I aint doing someone else hw

[lime dove]

lol

[stark thicket]

Im asking if you understand

[rigid aurora]

just chatgpt it

[stark thicket]

[rigid aurora]

?

[obtuse oyster]

which is you asking me about your hw problem

[lime dove]

[stark thicket]

teachers have dev accounts and can pull up info on if/when it was typed on chat gpt

[rigid aurora]

something something change it around

[stark thicket]

I have a feeling ice just doesnt like me

[rigid aurora]

im also sure theres no way they can check

[stark thicket]

[buoyant wagon]

because the devs honestly are not that great at balancing

[rigid aurora]

buff aero

[buoyant wagon]

and creating weak and strong classes pressures people to reroll

[lime dove]

unlucky

[rigid aurora]

buff sorc

[obtuse oyster]

definitely

[nova garden]

Buff slayer

[buoyant wagon]

so there's not that much incentive to keep things overly balanced

[obtuse oyster]

whales love that meta chasing

[rigid aurora]

nerf slayer to the ground

[ancient forge]

Whats the best way to get people to do lower level abyss dungeons if at all?

[buoyant wagon]

also kr has a much more negative stigma against dps meter

[obtuse oyster]

card run to yorn in pf

[rigid aurora]

put in title "card run to yorn"

[stark thicket]

buff pally so i can play dps pally

[buoyant wagon]

so players cant actually point out the bullshit balancing decisions

[ancient forge]

ah kk ill have to try later when i unlock more of them 😦

[obtuse oyster]

giga-nerf slayer

let all these meta andies drop the class

[rigid aurora]

nerf bard

nerf all supps tbh tired of these supp shortages

lemme run 8 man dps

[obtuse oyster]

here to stay sadly

[lime dove]

any tips for fishing net casting

[rigid aurora]

go to spot, set net, wait idk

[stark thicket]

i ordered something from doordash for my all nighter on hw... the dashers name is chad, but chad is lost

[buoyant wagon]

supports are just fucking unrewarding to play and gear

[lime dove]

@rigid aurora the space bar thing lol

[buoyant wagon]

you cant even tell how well you did without 3rd party programs lmao

[rigid aurora]

oh

oh yeah

i lowkey forgot that existed i havent net fished in foregver

[nova garden]

That’s also fine since prices for items will drop.

[lime dove]

u just skip it?

[queen grail]

[rigid aurora]

why tf is aly playing league

what did you guys do to him

[lime dove]

tft is not league

[lime dove]

lol

[rigid aurora]

it is the same exact thing to me bro

both are shit

[lime dove]

[obtuse oyster]

I wouldn't say it's unrewarding to play, there's definitely more they can do for feedback on performance post fight or during fight

[rigid aurora]

me and icy the only ones that have never played league here i swear

[buoyant wagon]

okay maybe not unrewarding to play

but definitely unrewarding to gear

[obtuse oyster]

there's really nothing that can do about that

unless they do some crazy stuff

like crit buffs and crit heals

[buoyant wagon]

they made supports too strong

[rigid aurora]

i mean they can buff dps build so its actually viable or do something liek dmg buff related or wtf

[buoyant wagon]

and now they are stuck in this weird position where they can't really make them do more

or else they have to make raids harder

and they put themselves in the hole of having to make supports strong because there is no battle res

[queen grail]

League?

[obtuse oyster]

for sure, plus a lot of class playstyles revolve around yearning so they can't even mess around with making new set effects to amp of the feedback for playing support

[lime dove]

BRez

[buoyant wagon]

and the other part is

[queen grail]

You just say that since you're bad at it

[lime dove]

i miss that from wow and ffxiv

[buoyant wagon]

because this is a p2w game

[rigid aurora]

i have never played league

[buoyant wagon]

they are afraid to make sweeping changes even if the game reaches point where making changes is warranted

e.g. post thaemine

[queen grail]

I mean, with your grandma reactions you can't play TFT

[rigid aurora]

i bet i would be a tft or league god tbh

[lime dove]

Too old ?

[rigid aurora]

first game on im masters level or whatever

[lime dove]

tft possible

[obtuse oyster]

always gonna be struggle for that, the old vet playerbase is always gonna be resistent to sudden change and gradual changes take forever to be anywhere meaningful

[lime dove]

no way in regular league

[mint canopy]

What's worse than being a League player is pitying Ancient gear

[rigid aurora]

whatever ranks are above diamond in that game i'll be in that level cuz diamond in every single game is noob territory now

[lime dove]

when u realize how much the other 4 ppl in your team influence your game

[mint canopy]

[obtuse oyster]

iron

[rigid aurora]

IM IRON ONE

[buoyant wagon]

more so because people paid to get where they are and nobody wants what they paid for to be invalidated

[sleek chasm]

you really are

[buoyant wagon]

it's an expectation that people live with in gachas but not so much in mmos

[rigid aurora]

odin crutch user btw

run faster to fights mercy

[sleek chasm]

my troll tactic btw

you still can't even outfrag me

says something about you

[rigid aurora]

pro tip you can bring out your knife to rotate faster

[opaque falcon]

ny kayoko haver?

[rigid aurora]

i was 6 kills above you before my power cut out

[cedar nymph]

how did they nerf the new gate 4

[rigid aurora]

🥱

[sleek chasm]

lol cope

[rigid aurora]

ny mutsuki

im broke

cant get kayoko

[obtuse oyster]

yellow meteor drops based off of time instead of hp bars

[opaque falcon]

damn

idk if its worth spending the rest to spark mutsuki or just save,.. 80 points rn

[cedar nymph]

they drop at set times now?

[rigid aurora]

eh

[obtuse oyster]

yeah

[rigid aurora]

if you need blue dps you can go

[cedar nymph]

oh

[rigid aurora]

otherwise save tbh

[mint canopy]

That's a big yikes

[rigid aurora]

mutsuki and aru are limited though so

[mint canopy]

I was ready to first time Brel G4 with that mechanic