#lost-ark-discussions
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Meanwhile people are spending 400k+ for legendary skins for the main stat

We are not the same
idk man, almost like honing cost gold or something
literally everything else LOL everything useful in this game costs gold
and getting 1600 and 1620 isn't cheap
Spending 800k on a build for 1830 spec vs 150k for 1800 spec is quite wild 
never said cheap
cant believe it lin exposes himself, hes not an ethical f2p after all
but keep denting

whales wont understand
Ye If everyone could just get max quality items on everything for free.
I could've spent 80k for 5x3+1 1825 spec
true, lets just all use salad accessories
but I spent 250k for 5x3+1 1834 spec
never said salad
but keep denting
I think for non spec classes it matters less
i knew it im the only f2p in my static
For spec classes the 1-2 on each piece adds up
dentwinter 
Especially if your bracelet or overall quality is low
to a whole 5-10 spec
i left everything on the field back im brel nm
You know you can get 80+ avg quality for quite cheap, It's just when It gets to 90/95+ quality the price really jumps in cost.
not a whale and not a rmter either, but its okay to cut some corners on rings and use blue/high greens to save gold, but its NOT okay to cut on earring and especially neck
now im like derrick rose out of his prime
5-10 spec actually does matter to me because my bracelet is low
yes, but my point before lin started denting
f2p like me cant afford it
yes, it was an example. but the point is in that example 40k isn't that much of a difference. across all your accessories its 2 weeks of raid gold
Previously at 1770 spec I’d not fill all 3 orbs completely every 3-4 rotations even with filler skills (or cooldowns would clip hard)
look what you did, now everyone is fighting cuz of you
there's no need to waste 200k to get a 298 earring when you can get a 295 and still hit 1800+ spec
but is the different of 20 spec across your accessories
but instead
he wants to dent
and think I said go get green
but what can I expect from NAW whales
me fr
When I was building my Wardancer, wich is my main, I could go for avg 10+ higher quality, and that would have cost me like 5++ times the cost of my original build 
That's just not a good economical take for me.
i mean yeah thats a big difference, the example given was 40k
You’re preaching to the wrong crowd anyways, anyone going for the minor increase doesn’t care about spending the gold
@urban obsidian
I wasn't talk to the whales to do it
me fr
the whales gonna whale on dumbshit regardless
even if there isn't much a difference from 1800 to 1830 spec
Obviously never logical
for slayer too
i mean people like playing the game and like to invest in their characters? is that hard to understand
subject to class 
But people will do that

why min max anything
I can run another sure
why go 5x3+1, its like a 5% increase for a few hundred k. just stay 5x3 relic
noone was talking about min-maxing
what do you think getting a few more stats is?
you have dayjob? 
I think you can do the chaos one?
If spec is in the question, 40k is never really a question unless you play some off-meta non-popular build, also, 40k depending on how much it gives you, Is also a bit of a waste even.
In the example he also said "2-4 difference between them" a 80 Quality ear piece has 288 Spec a 90 Quality one has 294 that's 6 stats, I don't think I either would have bought something for twice the cost for 6 spec.
depends on how many characters u have.
if you really want to minmax for leapstones
should i just do all the raids, even non-gold earning ones, if im trying to level a character? like 50>60
its like 6 cubes
Guardian Raid + Cube x2
yes
dailies count towards it too
yeah it wasn't twice the cost was my point it was literally 40k. i'm not advocating for paying double for something for a few more stats. I am saying 40k for the extra stats in this case is nothing.

ok so what here is against the rules
u should do dailies esp if u dont have many chars
@obtuse oyster I make room
someone please share
I dont think any raids is playable since lag is so fking annoying
Im too lazy to do dailies but sure u can
What?
WHY CANT I TYPE PROG BRO???
are you NAE?
sry that sequence of letters imitates a chinese groupchat service or smth
is naw fixed yet
especially
does argos give character xp? 
ye?
1472.5 and below yes lmao
zz so no
ok WTF lmao
@obtuse oyster When ready?
no wonder NAW all server ping is spiking right now its unplayable
yes, but 294 vs 298 (yes is still a difference) but if you can still hit 1800 spec with 294, you don't need to waste 150k more gold to get the 298 acc
i can type g2 prog but not g3 prog
banned
why cant you type g3 prog
i do the leapstone one in elgacia personally

I’ve heard some are still experiencing issues, but seems like most of my friends are doing fine.
I mean, as long as you can hit the threshold that your class need, that's all that matters.
i have 1 una left to do 
that is my point
and has been my entire point
Sure, if you want to max out, then slowly build towards that, but that's expensive as fuck for most spec classes.
@obtuse oyster SInce yo uplay offline
there is only one in elgacia that give leap. i do 1 daily and let the other 2 become rest bonus, and then next day i consume the rest bonus with the 1 daily etc
i mean its a weeks worth of raid gold for another 1-2% of dmg. if you can afford it its not a bad way to spend your gold
You can quickly go from a 5k item with decent stats to 150k
not yet i was trying to solo hanu and ping is 1k+
you quickly run out of things to improve once you have the basics
at the endgame 1-2% damage costs alot of money
to the point where buying leg skins is better than everythign else 
u can do the silver one instead if its a char u arent active honing
Double feiton + elgacia for leapstones
my main runs with salad quality 
Man, wtf they talk about in saint’s discord 
is it bad ? 
i see nothing new?
i dont know how f2p like me can compete in future raids
How should we know? This Is not saint's discord.
You shut your 🦆 mouth 
wrekk not say hes f2p for one day challenge
That first thing I see when I open it up 
impossible edition
f2p my ass 
week 1 thaemine hm clear on soul eater in NAW 

i woudn't pay 140k extra for 3 or 4 spec, but for 40k gold? if the piece is low malice, i would pay that, but then again i take ages to buy acc, my alt arti took 2 months to buy the proper acc, u gotta be patient with these things
all jokes aside my stomach is killing me and when i take a piss its spicy
grandpa wrekk

bro wut y did i click this
im still keeping up 
never coming back
crit
And thats why i dont open general chat

Trash, crit, and under 1800, delete.
Crit swift, cheapest combination and under 1800.
I just wanted to see what saint’s discord was like. Now I’m scared.
I'm dead.
wait what class is this? i can't think of a class that runs 1800 crit
aeroimancer 
on some@of my char i got rejected straight away when applying pf

aero 
follow your dreams
this never happened when i was in my prime
Paladin 1800 crit 👏🏻
It’s from saint’s discord 
Just send me screen yeppers.

Imagine buying green stuff 
wait, what happened?
Nah, idk if I should send that here 
u dont have lv3 set, and ppl prob recognized ur name for doing zdps
thaemine toughest irl boss yet
but thats crazy to expect 16 hours of progging though
Do it pussy
🐱

Icy is a coward 
needs to be better then this one tho 

Lv.2 andies.
wdym middle of the pack
wrekk just banished to lantern duty

remember, 42 years old jordan still scoring 42 and 55 points before getting injured
yeah i'll definitely remember that i think 
wait how old was he on wizards

You can't make Wrekk go Lantern.
He will spend all that free time talking about how much of a f2p he is in raid chat.
when i was on my prime, my pride wouldnt allow me to
this is rediculous
Show your Arti 
Man
oh yea, i posted that yesterday, ill repost it for people that didn't see it
Someone wake me up when Akkan buses are 10k gold 
thats how he cleared week 1, stumbled into a group and got sent to lantern realm 
p
lvl 9 barrage damage gem los 30
i didnt lantern for my first clear

Don't take that guy
didnt you say you joined some chinese group
yes
and they banished you to lantern duty

fighter dps god
I'm sorry, declined 
@obtuse oyster this guy ;-;
mayb this is why hes doing normal

you know
is KR getting season 3 legendary skins next week? 😮
ICEE
you crueled

my taijutsu is actually built wrong

and i was going toe to toe with everyone back in brel nm
idk why this makes saint a villian? but maybe prog raiders in kr are just more hardcore
my taijutsu is using wrong engravings
shouldve gone with shock
its literally 4x3
*FI WD
thats what happens cheaping out
it doesnt make him a villain
Are people being mean to saint? 
holy fuck bronya used skill on herself 
im not buying new accessories until i can 5x3+1
https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/16ljbrc/comment/k13lw58/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 can read more here, comment from saint himself
Fair enough it's an alt but i hate when our mains get jailed by alts
i dont think saints a villain for this. people are just drama fishing in this lol saints right about wanting to raid 16+ hours a day for this, considering thats what it took the other clearers lol

Saints just wanna play the game
most likely yea, just blowing things out of proportions, i still stand by what i said yesterday, raid fatigue is a real thing, some people function differently after a prolong period of progging, most people play worse and worse, some people their concentration and focus gets sharper the longer it drags on
Fi brokie
No.
thats crazy 20 hours prog per day, i prog for 2 hours and i feel so tired
Eso4 spender is trash 
wtf someone bought a bracelet for 3k on jump from me, im rich! 
damn
Sharing is caring 
ya drama frogs are crazy
why would you play js on nae, when its gonna be dead like real nae server as well
nae jump is most populated tho

the place it will "jump" to wont be populated
Fuсk man
Sus
They’re putting in the flooring in my apartment so I’m stuck gaming in my room.
yall wanna do akkan rehearsal on jump for fun? 
damn its actually sad
i just read this, i think saint dealt with the flame/roasting? really well, basicly just said fk u all very politely

Necknt
you gonna fuck up your back with desk like that
its fine when youre young
but that elevation is not good
I’m stuck in my room while they’re renovating my apartment.
They’re ripping up the floors and stuff. I can’t be outside of that room 
For like the next three days 
agreed. nothing wrong with only wanting to prog 6 hours or even less, so you're progging on your A-game. issue with team Last Pull was that they weren't all on the same page. some people wanted 6 hours and some wanted 16. smart to disband and find likeminded people, and i dont think their friendship falls out cuz of this either, they're just different gamers
sometimes it feels like racing for stuff like top 10 can bring out the worst in people, in many different ways
no its world first gate 4 clear
its alot of stress
so its still upto anyone to clear
and when theres esther into the picture they gotta bring smth to blame
back then its like "oh guize its only 2% damage extra"
i mean there is no doubt that esther provides an unfair advantage. but it is what it is 
Did the devs clear without Esther
We don’t know
now its like "OOHH THIRAIN ACKSHUALLY GIVES YOU 30% , AND BALTHUSSY MEANS YOU DONT GET KD'D"

exactly, thats life you know
Undeserved 
8k 
Crisis evasion
some people can spend 60k in some game
Icant
UNDESERVED
you guys know how many raids I do now? I've soon done all raids from Valtan to Akkan on 6 chars and from Valtan to Kaya on another 6 chars 
i think its a bit disingenuous to have a race and also have a game-changing item like esther that can only be bought, but i suppose the same could be said for races irl if you could just buy better equipment
it is what it is sometime
they would liken it to F1, where some team are clearly better than others and have better engineers
like the team, not the driver itself
yeah thats what i was thinking about too
U can f2p Esther wdym
but yeah it kinda ruins the spirit of the competition

Korea had plenty of time
when the non esther guys plays their heart out being efficient
deserved, I'm helping mokoko's and doing old raids, and I'm not even charging gold like some other hearthless souls in this channel Cough cough chaun
and the esther guys just spams balthsuzzy
Have you done tax yet?
Its not a fun year this year

Then help me raid wtf
2024-2025 we get huge tax breaks
I usually get around 4-5k back, only 2k, and my wife only getting 200 bucks
you can't really fomo or compare with people that have sideral weapons, or to a lesser extent more geared players than you, all you can do is do the best you can with what you have, and try not to bring in ego. but its really hard for some people to do this
I'm just doing Vykas and Valtussy's, do you know them tho? It's not a bus 
You have to do your own taxes? 
Weird place you live 

we can do our tax any time from July - Nov, it auto fills on a government website and you add deductions. Dont have to pay a cent
Idk vykas
Do you know valtan G1 orbs? @nova garden I'm going there now.
Icy is valtan pro
Valtan is the only raid I know well.
Tbh, I could prolly bus valtan but I’m lazy.
is that even worth it now
No
Avg European tax system
It’s like 1k g tops
He's from NA
@nova garden Well, up to you.
Just saying that's like Europe
I’m at work

You have to do your own taxes in Aussy Aussy land too?
At least you do 2x orbs. Makes it faster
Always 2x orbs, and then wei while people do second orb for even faster 
E just said he don't
I basically log into a website, the government has all my investments, income and interest earned, I add deductions like travel for work and stuff

and then click go
Why not thirain?

Because boss is dedge anyway.

OFC IS THE SORC THAT DIES
xd
I got taxed 24k and my wife 10k this year, before deductions
@obtuse oyster
i got taxed like 48k or smth
i want to molest a duck when i see those shit
claim more


Humble bragging about income.
its not humble bragging jackass, im losing my fuckin mind
Tax is %based so?
do you have throw away private health insurance
lots of stuff could be claimed WFH too, you send that in as well
I claimed 40% internet whereas you couldve claimed 80

etcetc
i just keep track what i bought related to work this year and send it to the accountant
condoms for shop
did u run it alrdy?
yeah
no
I mean, it’s a shit load of mats for exchange.
lmao
you have IPs too so defos need accountant
imma run it after this lullaby



wtf is this gremlin
fr
its how he pays for all those massages
he doesnt make that raw, its including investment income
bet he makes more.
Wrekk is aussie too
hey screw you, dont stalk me 

ofc he does, he works hard and is on call all the time, plus he owns buildings and stuff

Fine, every other day.
only when i come to the office sometime
Degrading others for making money due to their effort is lame 

fupyy fake hes ghosting me
Wrekk fund me full 10s btw

exactly, i told these people i started the journey in this world with nothing, like i did in arkesia



theres this saying in chinese or korean right dragon born out of a creek
thats me


i was born from a creek
goldriver

more like crack 
ishy come prog g3 wiht me
ya jsut look at me, last week i was gatekept mokoko, now i am the gatekeeper 
i feel like your gonna like this class so much on the next soul reaper express your gonna make a pistoleer
i mean i dont hone my lopangs to 1580 like u
and get lv10 gem

that doesnt surprise me, sydney is a shithole
im myself f2p

Hurry up and gear on nae jump.

i am geared

Enough to bus me in Brel?
So late on raids
i mean, i did 30% in brel 

Tbh, I should really learn g2 Brel. It looks easy.
What you got?
Kill shape assignment (idk)
Walk through a whacky maze
Stand in color spears
What else?
Grab orb thing and type test
fuck, i am
where is that engraving guide thingy with the stones
This?
good enough, ty
its actually super easy now
reveling the wandering merchants is so nice, i just do a quick glance and see the cards i need 🙂
Ok
I pretty much know g1 since I play along with drivers.
this is giga outdated tho
You have G1, which is dogs, x3 pos square standing, and stagger

unless its in elgacia and you're on a character that hasnt done it
Now I just need to learn g2
Still fine for relic acc
Its on the region i dont raid 
just doing my daily mokoko log in, got other games to play 
G2 is typing test + stagger, then stagger whilst looking away or at the orb, maze - just run it to the golden marker, Shapes - kill 2 shapes which is giga easy now, and x0 which is stand in x3/+1 pos and stand in spear

G3 is more complicated to explain, but still doable

Valtan nerf, vykas nerf, Argos nerf, 
3 is pretty free once you understand the basics
just do damage and follow your team
around
like a puppy

stick with your party the whole time and youll get the mechs down
g3 is ez, just put on heavy armor and vital point
put overwhelm on every stagger skill

Theres 3 main ones, Break/catch (yellow), Stagger + Grab protection and stand in beam (Red) and Stagger cube (Blue
Ew
Then you have the 2 main stagger checks, which, if your lobby isnt shit, isnt hard either
So much memorization
theservers dont want me ot clea

pull up guys
Wait until I get home 
Maybe I should do practice Akkan on my main account
I need fusion material help T_T
to the excav mines you go
chat my new empress arcana is already cruel fighter
idk how to play it but i am just so great
ima pull you into my bed like this
chat im launching lost ark
Rainy boots
cant wait to do clown
Make sure you screenshot yourself getting cruel fighter mvp in raid
guardian 
guardian "raid"
Got u
perfectly balanced as all things should be
shiny
wym
i already have. i can't be stopped
Cant decide if reaper or shadowhunter, what are u guys sayin?
Pick what you want
@urban obsidian CritFury
thats actually meta for normal windfury
sleep irl
reverse critfury
if you go adr +1 you go a crit ring/earring


My screenshot above is a reaper
U say reaper pumps?
Uh
It’s fun and does good damage.
first bingo was literally on the fucking boss tile
i feel like that goes against the narrative here
Reaper is prolly one of the most fun classes I’ve played.
fun is subjective
It just requires a lot more work to deal decent damage.
but i've never seen anyone say it does good damage
All classes do good damage, just you gotta work harder for some.
The only class that did shit damage no matter what was pistoleer, but that’s been changed with a buff.
bro what
How’s your clownge?
I want to kms
Many work just to stay relevant, meanwhile slayers just sing payphone and press and win
So not good
how can we fail bingo
Slayer weak bro
leave
Need buff
and I get kicked after carrying
then I get denied over a 1511.66 aeromancer
HAHAHA

I love this video
that aeromancer is me
You are the issue
ty for your spot

almost missed mokoko event, was just watching stoopz play 
just finish g1 
is that jump start?

holy shit I outdmged the 1595?
Was it rosey?
1595 RE?
nice slayer annihilator
wait so who else have their static broken?
That slayer must’ve been legit afk
all the english streamer?
everyone except atk and benji
they running with mint
that striker streamer
this game is so easy, did all my raids this reset, goes to do a valtan on my slayer 1490 lopang, gets jailed in g2
How tf you get jailed in g2?
did you pick me from the ground yet?

cant catch me
surgeblade
This mokoko event is not looking good
where is ur gold
i respect the hussle but its only 1k now...?
i mean 1k is still 7k

someone is stealing
more than other busses
depends on region
yeah i stole them and going to throw a party
there are more g3 groups with supports then 1-2 lobbies -_-, also boobajenny?
same thing happened to me, day 1 10.5k gold, every day after is 5 coins, today got 6 coins
we got nerfed
idc about the mokoseed event nerf, what i do care about is the ember stealth nerf, without it i can't get silver anymore and will be broke soon


👍


With blade + destruction path
i used blade with elation 
I did blade + triple sustain
Gep+luocha+ bailu
Destruction path
Came back and last boss was dead
i dont have geppy 
Maybe I got lucky
then got nuked at last phase 
Idk
helpin mokokos 
Is epidemic lantern mech in g2 punishing?
wdym ur the mokoko
i accidently changed the area before boss room, so i didnt get to upgrade my blessings 

no lantern in rehersal
perfect for zheng


someone probably went to go buy all the books on the market and ignored the prompt that says like "ur buying higher than average price"
i don't die to this anymore for the last 2 weeks -_-
no ghost or poop in football either, so perfect for rosey, can literally go afk
Wait, no shot someone actually bought for 5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8Un-7uQ-s&ab_channel=Kanima its verrrrrrryyyy norrrmal, yep
Thaemine raid is one if not the most difficult raid ever released yet in Lost Ark. How difficult it is were unexpected and due to the weekly limit, players are worried about not clearing. These pressure leads to a lot of static having difference of opinion and disbanding. In this video, Kanima talks about Thaemine breaking many statics in KR ser...
I mean, sold an EW deadeye book the other day for 1.2k 
I got my lockout ticket yay
is the wandering merchant bugged? ii cant find malone
KR lost ark players have never hardcore progged a raid in another mmo and it shows

maybe someone used it for a bus purchase?
you really cant sell books for busses
cuz anyone could buy it and you cant choose which book to buy
you always have to buy the lowest cost
tbf hardcore progging in a mmo in 2023 
right yeah
i am sure when it comes to NAw it will be nerfed like doing stars in g2 brel
i used vast majority of my engraving chests to try to empty my storage and i really didnt get anywhere lol
there's no incentive for them to nerf hard significantly
it's not required for any progression
and it's also what is essentially a final raid tier
library staying strong
they've already said they're gonna nerf hard lol
after a certain amount of groups clear
Prolly after 10 groups for top 10
have a bunch of shit at 6 now that i'll never use lol
the most realistic nerf that hard will get is maybe a nerf to incoming damage
wym
normal is more likely to see mechanical difficulty nerfs
1.6 mill dmg inc is perfectly fine
i decided to do a hanumatan on my 1580 sorc
its an end game raid after all 
i did 73% of the damage
yes hanumatan is despair now
That’s why I run monke on my slayers and chill.
I can carry dps 
i hope they dont significantly nerf hard
thats why i dont run guardians at all 
well thats a big fat lie
would be nice to actually have that hardcore challenge for once
can i use chaos dungeon potion before doing chaos dungeon for the day?
eg make it 200/50?
no
uuuugh i have a 1490 alt that i don't want to play pf waiting sim on, should i buy a bus...
i thought thes ame thing
yes
but i found a 1-2 group
chuan needs to feed his family with busses
i found 2 1-2 groups on my 2 1490s
i agree, even if i can't clear it ill prob just do normal 1-2, 1-3 on thaemine to progress the gear and slowly hone up and gain exp, pretty sure no one else agrees on the west though "where is my 1620 free powerpass to endgame???"
hard isnt needed for progression, therefore there's little incentive for large nerfs

it's needed if you want to transcend gear past +3/4 
zheng is gonna be 6x 1655 for thaemine launch
where sight focus
wym
@empty sleet 
mokoko
what
i can see nova doing this, then lin getting sideral +10 2 weeks later
why do you keep screenshotting me
wdym i'm f2p, you're the only whale here
lol what
rehearsal 
EW sucks 

chuan chasing meta so hard 

used to make fun of scooters and deadgeyes. now is obsessed with them
I still make fun of scooters
ever since last year when I saw a scouter do half a bar to vykas with his main dps ability
jump start into new gatekeep server

ironic cause everyone is a mokoko
g2 jailge go crazy fr
''mokoko''

lol

bruh idk why when i join lobbies with ''learning'' i also dont get accepted

like bruh



Oh
class?
Shit preset?
SH
Ah
I thought ppl dont rly gate keep off class lol
They do
also you can get rejected for any number of reasons
just play what u think is fun
including people waiting for friends
Because most of the time it’s the 69420 other reasons why you’re gatekept.
Class gatekeeping isn’t really a thing, 99.69% of the time it’s something else.
from a valtan hard
will you get gatekept from some parties due to class choice? yeah, it'll happen
will that be the reason why you can never find a party? no
shadowhunter is not one of the gatekept classes lol
Los60 lv11 gems juicers only
me watching a sorc actively run away from my heals while they're on 20% hp
zheng is toxic to pugs
They don’t wanna give you mvp
I do it too
they were barely attacking as is
sup shortage on js 
i thought there was too many supps on js
why would there be too many supps on js
vast majority of new players dont want to be a support because its boring as fuck
and the vast majority of veterans aren't rolling a support first because supports cant carry a raid by themselves
game trolled me with that expertise
relic gear doesnt matter anymore right>
since it gets replaced so quickly
?
do ppl even buy it
no
well its jumpstart
so accessories aren't really important unless people are making more than 1 character
lol o
damn dude
I did my chaos dungeon today
and imy inventory was full
I thought the drop wud go to my mailbox
it didnt 
rip loot
I sold a relic earring a few weeks ago for 165k 
lol jump start?
oh nvm
few weeks
is ee
Indeed


damn

i sold a relic for like 100k to
I’m holding this on js servers 
i regularly sell relic accessories for 300-500k

they tend to be expertise and domination also
I got 95q awa6 exp3 swiftness earring, only sellable around 40k
I remember my first relic item I sold for 150k, most of the time though I sold access for 5-10k regularly.
Since pred is so popular, hopefully I can bait some whales.
Was so happy when I got it, until I saw the AH price
Only issue is that I can’t list it.
because most people use awakening books
meaning the +6 awakening is useless
I legit don’t have enough gold to list what I want to sell it for.
on NAW?
Nae jump
ah, would anyone even buy anything for jump?
Anyone has the KR link for kindergarten arkpass?
Yeah
in 3 moths they engraving dissapear
they're not going to sell fast though

because the only people who want to buy accessories on jump are sweaty people making multiple characters
That’s why I’m holding until engraving sup starts to run out 
Need to fish some whales
























