lost-ark-discussions

[charred void]

im not talking about lvl 10 gem enjoyers pre brel

[uncut dirge]

and plenty had los30

[gleaming pendant]

The 82 mech confusing Susge @silver hollow

[charred void]

ye

i dont care about that people

im always refering to average

[cunning mesa]

i have to wait

[uncut dirge]

but they were the average that did g6 at the time

[frail holly]

naw average players didn't clear brel g6 hard

that's why they all quit

[uncut dirge]

i mean

[frail holly]

literally

[lean pewter]

I don't personally know anyone who had los30 on brel release

[uncut dirge]

we hit 1520 first week of brel release

hell, some people were 1520 before brel released in our group

[lament vortex]

[silver hollow]

i think well idk what they are saying ccuz i dont understand but seems like they have to go x3 and x3+1 to block the swords and then leave 1 mid to start stagger

[uncut dirge]

but they were omega sweatlords too

[lament vortex]

well you know me right

so you do know someone

[lean pewter]

[frail holly]

los30 on brel hard release was not common

[silver hollow]

@gleaming pendant cuz how else can they avoid the explosions and seems since it exploded it wipes and mech doesnt even start

@lean pewter HUH

[lean pewter]

glenn probably had it on valtan release

[silver hollow]

[lament vortex]

hard i was talking about normal

[cunning mesa]

i mean, people still wipe 5+ times in a row in vykas

with all the nerfs xD

[uncut dirge]

okay, you're right

[empty sleet]

[uncut dirge]

not many had los30 before brel normal release

there were some, but not many yeah

[steel minnow]

only tryhards

[frail holly]

barely anyone had los 30 at brel normal

[steel minnow]

and giga whales

[uncut dirge]

yeah i think what busydon said is right

[gleaming pendant]

Wow you are so smart

[frail holly]

brel normal the game was kickin tho

[uncut dirge]

it's the people that were doing card runs every week since day 1

[lament vortex]

[past ginkgo]

Thaemine will kill game in west lmfao

[silver hollow]

no seems like there is more to it ngl

[uncut dirge]

it wouldn't surprise me

not immediately

[lament vortex]

Sounds like a skill issue

[uncut dirge]

but the months after thaemine release

kinda like clown did

[cunning mesa]

eh, game was already declining as raids got harder. it just got up now with the changes

[steel minnow]

why? its gonna get nerfed quite a bit

[uncut dirge]

where people just didn't come back for the next boss anymore

[past ginkgo]

Average western sucks, yeh it's skill issue

[frail holly]

clown didn't kill anything

[steel minnow]

i mean its still very hard but

[empty sleet]

[uncut dirge]

clown basically made our static quit

[gleaming pendant]

Kinda cool to see the wipe mech tbh

[silver hollow]

lil bro doesnt know brel got nerfed 15 times b4 it came to the west xdd

[dull obsidian]

Wtf

[buoyant wagon]

i mean all they have to do is nerf thaemine normal

[uncut dirge]

partly because we had to split the group

[cunning mesa]

but i dont think western is that hard away from kr in skill

[gleaming pendant]

Launch into air then sword slice

[dull obsidian]

Jack has made it to 80 bars?

[frail holly]

yall don't realize mass quit didn't start happening until brel hard

[gleaming pendant]

Very anime

[uncut dirge]

partly because people just didn't enjoy doing it every week, so they weren't all that into brel

[silver hollow]

ye we dont get to have such experience ngl which is lame

[gleaming pendant]

Ya new mech

[cunning mesa]

we just have way way way less gear

[frail holly]

most fellas were just getting banned before then

[dull obsidian]

Dude they might actually clear wtf

[frail holly]

but said they were "quitting"

[buoyant wagon]

thaemine hard being balls to the wall hard isnt going to kill the game when less than 10% of the playerbase is probably going to attempt it

[uncut dirge]

nah it happened in waves

[silver hollow]

but their pull was so clean like idk

[uncut dirge]

after vykas there was a giant wave of quitting (could also be bot bans tho)

[silver hollow]

seems like a clear by tomo

[frail holly]

so many fellas were quitting because they actually got banned

[uncut dirge]

then a lot of players didnt return for brel after clown

[silver hollow]

GL solo 1v9 the boss

[uncut dirge]

and then after brel had been going for a while even more people quit

[frail holly]

starting like june of 2022

[buoyant wagon]

there werent that many people who got banned lmao

other than the bots

[uncut dirge]

and yeah hard brel is what was like the final nail

[frail holly]

ur wrong there were

[dull obsidian]

G4 normal patterns easier than G3?

[frail holly]

most of them will never say a word

[uncut dirge]

vykas!

[silver hollow]

seems so

[dull obsidian]

They're making it through g4 faster than g3

[silver hollow]

or they're just so good at it idk took em way less to legit have this shit on farm

[gleaming pendant]

I mean maybe g4 post 50 he go insane

[buoyant wagon]

and what were these pervasive bans for

[frail holly]

yes this was when people started getting banned

[silver hollow]

[uncut dirge]

also also jump start taught me why you need multiple chars

[buoyant wagon]

do tell me

[silver hollow]

exactly their g4 pace is nuts

[uncut dirge]

there are too many una dailies for skill points

[frail holly]

rmters were actually getting banned

[uncut dirge]

especially since you want to stack up leapstones on the main

[buoyant wagon]

best joke ever

[uncut dirge]

but you still need to do like 6-7 different una dailies to get your giants hearts etc

[silver hollow]

bro ngl seems like a 0 bar mech angle

[buoyant wagon]

yeah some people got hit

prior to july 2022 most bans were short temps that can get appealed down sure

[silver hollow]

or a hidden g5

[buoyant wagon]

after that they got longer but they didnt catch as many people as you think they did

[frail holly]

after that people had to rmt with real gold

[lament vortex]

[buoyant wagon]

good joke

[frail holly]

so it became harder to catch

[buoyant wagon]

[charred void]

https://youtu.be/jNn-GORFopc?si=AixmcZc3x8KlxL5y&t=83 hope we get this difficulty in lost ark too, game gets too hard

[steel minnow]

lately u cant even tell apart a rmter from a busser

[silver hollow]

hi thats me

[hidden jay]

Glenn why don't you smuggle medoo in a reclear run

[silver hollow]

wtf fake ember spotted

[frail holly]

most fellas who got banned just rmt'd random bot gold

[buoyant wagon]

out of like 20 people i know

[silver hollow]

glenn is a jailer i wouldnt raid with him

[steel minnow]

wow how do u know only 20 ppl

[buoyant wagon]

like maybe 2 ate a ban that was half a year or longer (perma)

[hidden jay]

Glenn is a juicer :o

Wa

[buoyant wagon]

rest never have been banned

[silver hollow]

no he cant swipe for skills

told me himself

😦

[dull obsidian]

I rmt from Chuan everyday

[lament vortex]

Do you have PLC 2.0 and HM clear

[frail holly]

yea that's cool 20 people isn't thousands that got banned

[buoyant wagon]

chuan is living proof they dont ban

[frail holly]

[buoyant wagon]

they have never banned thousands for rmt

[frail holly]

they have

[silver hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/despierta-ya-gif-6191108783379205749

[uncut dirge]

here's the list of una dailies you want to do for skill points:

1. pond of purification
2. tooki
3. shadowmoon
4. azure wind
5. whispering islet
6. wisdom isle

[buoyant wagon]

unless you count the bots

[silver hollow]

my akkan is cleaner than urs

[lament vortex]

only cleaner cause you are the janitor

[hidden jay]

But Pahlev has a char named chuanscousin
Where's yours

[frail holly]

anybody that rmt'd easily trackable botted gold would have got banned around june - july 2022

[silver hollow]

see ember he goes by tittles and cards L mentality

[buoyant wagon]

tons of botted gold slipped through

with enough laundering

[frail holly]

of course they didn't ban everyone that's not possible

[charred void]

glad we have jumpstart servers now without bots

[lament vortex]

issue is this gold gets spread into the market real quick

[hidden jay]

Janitor duty is very important tho

[silver hollow]

yeah jaintor 20% dmg cuz all my dps outside cosplaying youn

[buoyant wagon]

they didnt nuke thousands and they never have

[frail holly]

they did tho

[silver hollow]

i never janitor

[frail holly]

playerbase literally dipped

[silver hollow]

only in prog then i went out carried so never went bk in

[frail holly]

not because of bots they were doing those in waves

[buoyant wagon]

if they actually nuked thousands of rmters it would have been all over the news within rmt circles

[hidden jay]

Kimi is our janitor

[frail holly]

it literally was

[buoyant wagon]

and it would actually have put the fear of god ags into them

[hidden jay]

[silver hollow]

[lament vortex]

[silver hollow]

i would put mizu janitor and still be worried

[hidden jay]

She takes pride in it but she does a perfect job tho

[cunning mesa]

medoo didnt even add me yet

[frail holly]

bro the rmt circles aren't going on lostark gold and rmting like

[silver hollow]

ur fault

[past ginkgo]

Bruh they gotta make more channels on niheltalop

[frail holly]

i guarantee you that

[past ginkgo]

I'm fuming

[buoyant wagon]

i'm well acquainted with the chinese side of things

bans never happened in the number you claim they did

[frail holly]

they have bro these "rmt circles" never tried rmting on obvious rmt sites that were advertised in game

[cunning mesa]

wdym my fault

[frail holly]

but the ones who got banned clearly were

[formal fox]

Anyone have the link for SS community guide?

[lament vortex]

Imagine having Yumi as your friend ingame

oh wait

[buoyant wagon]

you realize that almost nobody actually buys from the sites spammed ingame right

especially since most of them actually scam you out of your money

[cobalt hazel]

go to the sharpshooter channel and they'll probably have it pinned

[silver hollow]

didnt ask

[cunning mesa]

[cobalt hazel]

or whatever the nexus/sharpshooter url is

[cunning mesa]

im asking now

[frail holly]

clearly all the fellas catching 6 month bans and 1 year bans were

there were a lot that only caught 1 month

[silver hollow]

my name in game is Emb3r

[frail holly]

regardless of the amount it seemed pretty random

[cunning mesa]

that looks like a lie

[gleaming pendant]

Lostark.nexus

[buoyant wagon]

i mean i know a couple of people who ate 6 month+ bans

they werent getting gold from those places

[steel minnow]

we got a glowie in the chat

[silver hollow]

when kae.nexus

[frail holly]

there was legit a whole forum talking about how they all were getting banned even though they were using notable plugs or whatever they call it

[cunning mesa]

still didnt accept me

[buoyant wagon]

have you ever bothered to think how ludicrous it is that tens of thousands of people were buying gold from ads spammed in game, and on top of that, ags banned several thousand of them

wow doesnt even ban that many people for buying gold per wave

[steel minnow]

deserved

[uncut stratus]

Have you ever thought?

[uncut stratus]

[silver hollow]

will do once on

[buoyant wagon]

nah thinking is hard

[lament vortex]

main thing is people buy handfarmed gold

issue in KR aswell

[frail holly]

ags literally banned over 100k bots a day

[buoyant wagon]

yeah but that's not the topic of this convo

[silver hollow]

@gleaming pendant bro can they hurry the fk up and do something chatting bares for why

[buoyant wagon]

banning 100k bots is pretty easy when all it takes is some automation to detect repetitive activities

[silver hollow]

so boring 🥱

[frail holly]

yea and if ur getting gold from a banned bot very sus and you get flagged most likely

[buoyant wagon]

their contact tracing has always been spotty at best

and nonexistent once people used accounts to launder it

[formal fox]

Thanks

[buoyant wagon]

the main thing that gets you flagged for certain is if you commit credit card fraud to buy gold on exchange

[past ginkgo]

Also who said 10% gonna do Thaemine, most people already start crying when they have to hone for it with shit rates

[buoyant wagon]

that is the only time where you are pretty much guaranteed to be banned

[steel minnow]

its not shit rates there is allways guranteed honing if u get 100% pity

[silver hollow]

stop being a doomer u have plenty of time

[buoyant wagon]

thaemine is like 7 months away for us

[past ginkgo]

I'm not dooming, I'm fine though

Easy

[silver hollow]

[buoyant wagon]

10% of the existing population can definitely make it to 1630+

[silver hollow]

just be like queen and theamine ready 7 months in advance

[frail holly]

when thaemine comes out slayer will be my 2nd main with 9x7 stone and +8 esther

[silver hollow]

will start saving shards and bounds for lost ark 3

[frail holly]

where is the challenge guardian parties at

[steel minnow]

wednesday

[frail holly]

do people just matchmake?

bro what

everyone does that content on the same day?

[steel minnow]

what

yea

[frail holly]

dang

[steel minnow]

or wait for tomorow

[past ginkgo]

huh you nae, isn't it like 10AM

at your place

[frail holly]

yea it's like 9 am

i'm tryna raid

[steel minnow]

on a work day

[past ginkgo]

[buoyant wagon]

from 1600

definitely doable in half a year

[silver hollow]

8 mill shards

[buoyant wagon]

though if hard thaemine doesnt really get nerfed then entering on ilvl is going to be a very rough time

[past ginkgo]

[cunning mesa]

you get one shot anyways

so it doesnt change much

[silver hollow]

yh was gonna say

[left sierra]

they nerf embers already?

[past ginkgo]

Start doing your shard una now

[frail holly]

yea u get 1 shot from normal attacks

[silver hollow]

i am seeing 1655s getting slapped

wont makea difference

[frail holly]

hp is an after thought

[buoyant wagon]

you get around 5.25m shards from just chaos dungeons in 7 months if you do them every day

[frail holly]

dang everyday

[silver hollow]

who did the maths

LOOOOL

[left sierra]

what stage

1600?

[buoyant wagon]

1600, roughly 25k daily on average

[frail holly]

u get 2m from fate embers in 7 months

[silver hollow]

cries in pity

[past ginkgo]

Average scenario

[cunning mesa]

but we will have smth better than 1600 by the time thaemine will come to the west

[steel minnow]

guys u gotta calculate that raids give shards aswell

[silver hollow]

[past ginkgo]

ouch

[hidden jay]

Skill issue

[cunning mesa]

also yeah, time to do argussy weekly for those juicy 200 shards

[steel minnow]

i believe next one you will hit

[cunning mesa]

you too?

[silver hollow]

was ember's fault actually cuz wasnt watching my honing stream

[hidden jay]

Where

WHERE DID YOU STREAM

[silver hollow]

its worse cuz one b4 was 90%

[silver hollow]

i streamed to myself...

u werent there so

[lament vortex]

@violet finch is this you

[hidden jay]

STREAM IT TO ME

[silver hollow]

[silver hollow]

no u scare me

[steel minnow]

bro addicted to gambling

[frail holly]

what do u even do when u stream lost ark

the only thing available is dailies

[hidden jay]

[frail holly]

[silver hollow]

[lament vortex]

Ember is very nice in VC trust

[silver hollow]

i dont trust u tho

so

[hidden jay]

[silver hollow]

point invalid sorry

[cunning mesa]

nothing can be worse

[buoyant wagon]

never trust a discord mod

[left sierra]

1 tap

[frail holly]

true statement

[steel minnow]

i pitied +19

[cunning mesa]

my 2 before that one were also pity

[frail holly]

also never trust a deathblade main they're always missing their surge crits

[gleaming pendant]

LOL! NOOB

[silver hollow]

i pittied my +19 so its okay

[hidden jay]

What did I do to you

[silver hollow]

LOL

UR MUM

[steel minnow]

also this is worse

[buoyant wagon]

why did you think that message was targeted at you

[cunning mesa]

i feel so understood

[winged axle]

i will be having your gold

[frail holly]

discord mods be like

[silver hollow]

she was the only mod talking maybe

[buoyant wagon]

maybe nova touched me in the wrong places

[silver hollow]

i would believe that

[hidden jay]

You know I 1 tapped my 19 then 3 tapped my 20

Pittied 18

[silver hollow]

nova did unholy unspoken things b4 ~glenns words

[steel minnow]

ppl that dont put buynow price can suck my toes

[lament vortex]

i always hear this as the guy roasting the potato's

[silver hollow]

honestly thats where my luck went then

[frail holly]

they don't know how to sell leg skins

[cunning mesa]

i always bid

[silver hollow]

u were praying on my downfall

[lean pewter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQHNGa9RDg

[cunning mesa]

its cheaper

[silver hollow]

yes that one was funny

xdd

[steel minnow]

i allways buy now cuz dont have time to wait

[hidden jay]

Glenn can you send me gold

I want another 1580 alt

[lament vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ng5NEbbR4NI

[silver hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-7929301

[lament vortex]

pick one of mine

[cunning mesa]

bidders have the adrenaline of knowing their accs could disappear at any given time

[hidden jay]

I wish I could push my slayer to 1580 but that bitch got no shards

[steel minnow]

i dont like that

[charred void]

only 4 1580+ what are you, f2p

[cunning mesa]

but it saved me like 20k gold in a 300k+ gold build, so worth

[cobalt hazel]

20k gold

[silver hollow]

i forgot do u play pred or punisher

[hidden jay]

Pred

[silver hollow]

pret

hmmm

[hidden jay]

[cunning mesa]

im such a rat that i bid on a 4500 gold buy now accs to get it down to 3k gold

[silver hollow]

good choice

[spare onyx]

Is there anyone that has an downloadable excel sheet for weekly and dailies?

[past ginkgo]

Time to tap some quality and lose all gold

lets go

[cobalt hazel]

why do you need an excel sheet for weekly and dailies

[lament vortex]

use Bynn Ark or Lost ark helper website

[cobalt hazel]

the game tells you what daily/weekly stuff you have left

[past ginkgo]

nvm LMAO

[spare onyx]

I'd like to track things like buying out guild shop on alts, checking in on guilds to support research and daily stone reward.
Which ones have done raids. Instead of going to the game menu and clicking on every single character to see which raids ive got left, i can see it on one single page

[past ginkgo]

From 59 > 94 seems legit

Gotta take that

[cobalt hazel]

https://i.imgur.com/xfYmXt1.png

why are prime oreha's such shit value for crafting lmao

[charred void]

wdym, they always sucked

[past ginkgo]

[steel minnow]

i sell the other oreha stones

i make bank

[charred void]

they gonna explode when everyone tries to last minute hone to 1620

1 day before voldick

[past ginkgo]

Excavate stuff tanking every day

[silver hollow]

are u gonna try and do hm voldi day 1

?

[charred void]

i have 3 1620 items

idk probably maybe no yes

dont care enough

[silver hollow]

nice

LOL

[charred void]

if i get there i get there

[cobalt hazel]

what is 1620 on a piece, +19?

[silver hollow]

idk

[charred void]

yes 19 akkan

[silver hollow]

good question tho

ew

thats expensive

[cobalt hazel]

so full +19 by december

[steel minnow]

u dont really have to be 1620 doe

1600 is fine for normal mode

[cobalt hazel]

worst part will be the leapstones tbh

[steel minnow]

[cobalt hazel]

everything else is fine

[charred void]

you dont have to be 1620

lmao

[charred void]

every modern gamer

[cobalt hazel]

you need like, 9k leaps on average

[charred void]

you dont have to be bro

[cunning mesa]

i cant even go to 1600 without running out of everything i have

[charred void]

sweating so hard minmaxing everything

but you dont have to be 1620 bro

[cobalt hazel]

https://i.imgur.com/2JYKLS0.png

[steel minnow]

i minmax everything that i can

[rugged lynx]

@cobalt hazel Are you rs yet

[cobalt hazel]

from where i am now

[tardy tusk]

dont requiere 1620 to use elixir system?

[cobalt hazel]

to 1620

will cost 1.6mil

not including blue stones

if i buy everything

[cobalt hazel]

after i get 1620 maybe

wait, 19 transfers to 12 right? not 13

https://i.imgur.com/Rgexlxe.png

1.7mil ez

assuming i dont pity everything

[uneven mortar]

jesus christ strata is now 5k per year, are they fucking joking

[cobalt hazel]

[uneven mortar]

they think we shit money or smth

time to increase rent again

[steel minnow]

what is strata again?

[uneven mortar]

err if you live in communal property like an apartment its managed by strata

[steel minnow]

basically just extra fee for land owners?

[uneven mortar]

err kinda

[gleaming pendant]

He need to rent his free estate given by aunt

[cobalt hazel]

generational wealth 😔

[uneven mortar]

its my own hard work jackass

i was broke when i was young you know

I got here by myself, all hard work, blood sweat tears

[teal herald]

1620 soon

[cobalt hazel]

(and rich relatives dying and leaving properties in their will)

actually what even is your job

[nocturne flower]

from what I have seen thaemine seems to be less puzzle type mechanics, it's a lot of reaction and random 1 shot attacks

[uneven mortar]

are you kidding me, i never got any kind of inheritance

[cobalt hazel]

all i remember is that you were on call for stuff

[uneven mortar]

nor do i need to

[charred void]

[uneven mortar]

im just a code monkey

just working at financial services atm since the pay is good even though projects kinda boring

[cobalt hazel]

fintech?

[uneven mortar]

kinda

[cobalt hazel]

kyc and all that shit

[uneven mortar]

[cobalt hazel]

[buoyant wagon]

the other half of the problem being on ilvl is getting gatekept by organized parties

not that many people are going to be 1630+

[gleaming pendant]

He sell his butt and inherit properties from aunt

[cobalt hazel]

hot, link OF where

[buoyant wagon]

and many of the parties want you to be at least 1640+

[uneven mortar]

[nocturne flower]

yeah for sure

[uneven mortar]

wouldnt i inherit from my own parents

why would i inherit from relatives

[nocturne flower]

thaemine in this state will prolly need that, these whale groups are getting destroyed in like 20-30 bars on gate 4

[uneven mortar]

beside i worked hard enough i dont need any inheritances

[empty sleet]

Why exactly is the light card set the best? Im having trouble to understand how the dmg is modified .
Like i understand its a base modifier but do things like crit dmg /back atack bonusses calculated after?

[buoyant wagon]

i wouldnt be surprised if some groups asked for bible logs

[uneven mortar]

made it all here by myself

[buoyant wagon]

or a gameplay video like saint's group did

[nocturne flower]

lol yes

the attack patterns seem random, like weird double chariots some times

[uneven mortar]

you know those saying dragon born from creek

[cunning mesa]

its the set that gives the most dmg

[uneven mortar]

tahts me

i was born from creek

started in arkesia and real life with nothing

yet here we are

[frail holly]

i miss the lailai times those were the days

[nocturne flower]

it's almost as if they have taken d4's uber lilith then cranked it up 10x

[cobalt hazel]

light set and dark set give the same multipliers, but for our current content, more of it is light weak than dark weak, being weak to a specific element is another 10% damage

[buoyant wagon]

honestly the thaemine prog is made a lot rougher by the fact that hardcore raid progging doesnt really exist in Korea

wow isnt really popular outside of middle aged dudes

ff14 never really took off

[cobalt hazel]

ffxiv hardcore prog is a different level than lost ark

[nocturne flower]

100% this lots of KR WoW mythic raiders are trolling all the lost ark raiders lol

[buoyant wagon]

this game never had a raid that required over a week to prog

and this being a p2w game has created a lot of players who swipe to compensate for skill issue

[cobalt hazel]

these lost ark "hardcore raiders" wouldnt be shit in ffxiv without their esther weapons and stuff

[lime dove]

what about release brel and thaemine or akkan

[buoyant wagon]

akkan cleared in 24 hours

brel took 3 days

[frail holly]

dang brel took kr 3 days

carried by stats

[nocturne flower]

to be fair i don't think captain jack or handongsuks teams are using sidereal

[frail holly]

wait u mean hard brel or normal brel

[buoyant wagon]

hard

[frail holly]

cuz they didn't release at same time right

[mental needle]

?

[cobalt hazel]

isnt captain jack's group 6x sidereal weapons on their dps lmfao

[buoyant wagon]

not at the same time

[cobalt hazel]

and the main reason they even cleared in the run that they did, is because of the sidereal weapons

[buoyant wagon]

captain jack's group has multiple esthers

they're not all 1655 like mountain club is though

[nocturne flower]

oh damn i am blind lmaooooo

[frail holly]

how strong is side weapon

[buoyant wagon]

2nd and 3rd clear didnt rely on esthers

[mental needle]

Nah dw ester bal cheese totally didn't carry them in 210

[cobalt hazel]

side weapon is 4% higher base damage, along with 30% increased damage for 10s when active, and then some other shit

[lime dove]

oil princes

[frail holly]

100k dollars?

[buoyant wagon]

balthorr is what matters on the weapon for thaemine prog, as opposed to the dps increase

[frail holly]

per char?

[cobalt hazel]

balthorr weapon is basically an extra support awakening but stronger

[nocturne flower]

handongsuk under 200 bars now

[buoyant wagon]

because it gives push immunity

[empty sleet]

Its expensive

[lime dove]

these guys r like big ceos or sometihng

[empty sleet]

Not sure if 100k but i guess its around it to max it

[lime dove]

[cobalt hazel]

esther 8 is what, 70k usd at current KR material prices

[lime dove]

casually drops 100k

[cobalt hazel]

[buoyant wagon]

its like 40k or so in kr im pretty sure

[frail holly]

70k usd

[buoyant wagon]

to max an esther

[frail holly]

that's a lot of work

[empty sleet]

Ok my assumption seemed almost correct x)

[cobalt hazel]

idk, i got the number from saint's post

[steel minnow]

pocket change for a guy like me

[cobalt hazel]

from earlier

[nocturne flower]

everyone keeps wiping at like 190ish bars on gate 4

[frail holly]

40k pocket change brodie makes 100k a month

[lime dove]

lol

wtf

1.2 m a year?

[frail holly]

[nocturne flower]

on par with ffxiv savage raids?

[empty sleet]

Cant even affors a pc that takes less than 10 mins to load into clown x)

[buoyant wagon]

well the other thing is

while some of the people going for world first thaemine are very good players

a lot of them are also painfully average players carried by ilvl

whereas week 1 savage raiders in FF14 tend to be more uniformly skilled

especially since raid logging is an actual thing in that game and you cant whale gear for an advantage

[nocturne flower]

100% agree

[buoyant wagon]

kr players are much more reluctant to use bible to measure themselves

and absolutely dont want to be caught admitting they use it lest some person reports them

[uncut dirge]

lucky mokoko on jump start

[buoyant wagon]

people snitch a lot more in east asia

[uncut dirge]

the friend i'm playing jump start with got a lucky mokoko today as well

[buoyant wagon]

jp side of ff14 is notorious for it, for example

[cobalt hazel]

wheres my lucky mokoko smh

[buoyant wagon]

outing people using mods and such

[uncut dirge]

i just ask other people to measure it for me

and then i know

[cobalt hazel]

JP world first TOP clear

they were forced to delete their shit by the GMs

[uncut dirge]

imo being against dps meters is being in favor of more gatekeeping

[frail holly]

[uncut dirge]

because if there's no objective measure, then people will use rules of thumb

that are always going to be less accurate

[buoyant wagon]

first TOP clear was actually fucking egregious

[teal herald]

[nocturne flower]

oh yeah that zoom out mod drama right?

[uncut dirge]

it does lower toxicity tho

[buoyant wagon]

with the mods they used

[teal herald]

nice lego skins

[uncut dirge]

below 250 roster level? not invited

[buoyant wagon]

not that, that was a well deserved outing

[teal herald]

@charred void

[cobalt hazel]

all the memes were hilarious

[buoyant wagon]

but jp netizens have gone on crusades over people using parsers while streaming

[uncut dirge]

yeah zoom out mod sounds like actual cheating

[buoyant wagon]

or customization mods

[nocturne flower]

damn lol

[charred void]

imagine rolling so many scam jars and you end up selling the skins for 50k

[nocturne flower]

nude mods 🫡

[charred void]

dropped from 150k day1 to this

[uncut dirge]

everyone should use em!

[buoyant wagon]

yeah there have been cases of people casing out twitter for people using stuff like nude mods

and reporting them

[uncut dirge]

world of warships actually allows customizations of ships

[empty sleet]

Rolled 25 diemantled all my skins and got 0 leg x)

[uncut dirge]

like they actively added ways for players to modify the looks of things with local mods

[uncut stratus]

Well yes, however, what if you weren’t shit

[buoyant wagon]

which is why modding communities recommend you to never show your ign in your twitter and insta stuff

[uncut dirge]

meanwhile they make money from selling skins

[empty sleet]

Aint worth to roll just buy

[uncut dirge]

but there's one type of customization they dont allow

[cobalt hazel]

some erpers deserve to be called out though

[uncut dirge]

which is if you add markers onto skins on where to shoot

[cobalt hazel]

the ERPers that made the big ass advertisement with official SE/FFXIV logos in the US

[uncut stratus]

@al- oh wait he’s banned

[teal herald]

[cobalt hazel]

with a modded outfit that wasnt even released yet

[nocturne flower]

would be funny if the last thaemine mechanic casts a raid wide debuff dropping all ilvl to 1500

[buoyant wagon]

you know what's the truly funny part about the world first TOP drama

[uncut dirge]

that actually sounds like a potential lawsuit

[buoyant wagon]

nobody would have found out if that group didn't piss off their 9th man

apparently they were going to shaft him out of a clear the next lockout or something

so he outed the whole group

[nocturne flower]

daamn

[cobalt hazel]

100%, but the people who made it were defending it with their lives on discord

average erp discord mod moment 💀

[frail holly]

naw let em cook ERP is fine amirite

[uncut stratus]

Outted them for doing what

[nocturne flower]

my friend used to run a "club" in ffxiv

[uncut stratus]

Ok stop right there

[buoyant wagon]

using extensive 3rd party mods such as an extremely zoomed out view that made their raid progging a lot easier

[uncut stratus]

So they’re shit

[uncut dirge]

basically it's like playing with a 21:9 monitor

[cobalt hazel]

worse than that tbh

[uncut dirge]

i was baiting

[uncut stratus]

Yo just play with a 27-4

[tardy tusk]

@cunning mesa

xd

[uncut dirge]

does the game go beyond 21:9?

a lot of games that do support wide screens will stop at some point

[uncut stratus]

Idfk

[buoyant wagon]

its not an issue of widescreen aspect ratio

[cunning mesa]

idk how they didnt expect to have windows of doing nothing when the class has the biggest burst in the game

[buoyant wagon]

the addons the world first team were using allowed for a zoomed out camera view that no monitor could achieve

[tardy tusk]

literally.

[cobalt hazel]

that reminds me, i have to login to ffxiv to keep my house

[random ginkgo]

How were they gonna shaft him from the clear

[cunning mesa]

also that person probably doesnt have maxed spec

[tardy tusk]

its js char

[cunning mesa]

that makes hype cd longer

[tardy tusk]

prob 1550 spec

around 18 secs

[buoyant wagon]

their 9th man was their vod reviewer and since raids are 8 man he wasnt in the party for the first clear

[cunning mesa]

iirc my hype is 10s with 1820 spec

[buoyant wagon]

the agreement was they'd slot him in the next week and get him his clear

[random ginkgo]

Sounds fair

[buoyant wagon]

but the group reneged on that so he aired out the dirty laundry

[uncut dirge]

this is why the whole power pass thing is a shitty way to run a game

players will make characters they don't enjoy but now have no real way of rerolling

[random ginkgo]

Shitty static tbh

[cobalt hazel]

man im not used to how fast ffxiv starts up

[uncut dirge]

pay up $60

[cobalt hazel]

game loads up instantly

im used to waiting 5 minutes for lost ark to open

[uncut dirge]

i will boot up poe

[astral folio]

Someone German ? Need some help

[uncut dirge]

and then boot up lost ark

[uncut stratus]

It’s a tool to up your playtime so the game has bigger play hours

[cunning mesa]

i kinda agree. pps exist to milk money

[uncut dirge]

i can run half a map in poe before lost ark starts up

[buoyant wagon]

moral of the story - dont fuck over your 9th man

especially if you have skeletons in the closet

[uncut stratus]

How’d you find out about that?

Are you in my walls?

[buoyant wagon]

[cobalt hazel]

[uncut dirge]

maybe he's just in your closet

[buoyant wagon]

the only reason my sub has been active for the past 2 years is because i need to keep my house

[cobalt hazel]

sounds like you spent $100 more than you needed to

[uncut dirge]

beatrice is the Watcher, right?

[cobalt hazel]

auto demo was cancelled for like, a year

[buoyant wagon]

i mean

[cobalt hazel]

because of the russia/ukraine thing

[uncut dirge]

after doing elgacia quest and seeing the other 3 prophets

[cobalt hazel]

i didnt have my sub running during that

[buoyant wagon]

i still logged on every now and then for stuff

[uncut dirge]

i can see why they picked beatrice to get the most important job

since the rest of them can only speak in riddles

[buoyant wagon]

$15/month is chump change anyways

[cobalt hazel]

only subbed again recently because they enabled auto demo again

[uncut dirge]

man

[cobalt hazel]

are you paying for the full sub too lol

[buoyant wagon]

yeah

[uncut dirge]

how much should a $60 game cost now after inflation

[cobalt hazel]

instead of the starter version

[buoyant wagon]

my average lunch costs a lot more than $15

[cobalt hazel]

sounds like you could have ate a few extra lunches instead

[buoyant wagon]

maybe if i lived in SEA

[uncut dirge]

subscription needs to be $25

[buoyant wagon]

lunch here is easily $20-30

[cobalt hazel]

now put in minimum wage

1999 minimum wage, what would it be now

[uncut dirge]

my country's minimum wage from 2004?

lemme see

[cobalt hazel]

US minimum wage was $5.65 back in 1999

now its $7.25

[uncut dirge]

in 1999 minimum wage was €0.47 an hour

or €80 a month

[cobalt hazel]

https://i.imgur.com/REA1rq5.png

if minimum wage followed inflation

it would be $10.41

[uncut dirge]

this would be estonia's minimum wage in 1999

[empty sleet]

lol, im loving these chaos dungeon changes

[uncut dirge]

grats

[river wolf]

[uncut stratus]

L

[cobalt hazel]

ironically the UK has actually kept minimum/living wage above inflation

one of the few things they kinda got right

[river wolf]

tomorrow weekly una token resets

[uncut dirge]

UK also has like 3 minimum wages tho

wait no, more

[uncut stratus]

[uncut dirge]

you can pay young people less than real minimum wage

:)

[teal herald]

[uncut stratus]

Report him

[charred void]

[cobalt hazel]

im talking about minimum wage for most workers i.e. 23+

theres different minimum wages for younger people

[uncut dirge]

as long as they're not an apprentice that is

[cobalt hazel]

apprenticeships are scams

unpaid ones anyway

[river wolf]

i hear the higher the number the better it is

[cobalt hazel]

and especially ones where you have to pay them to do an apprenticeship for them

[charred void]

apprenticeships are like lost ark busses

[uncut stratus]

[uncut dirge]

UK minimum wages:
23+ £10.42
21-22 years old: £10.18
18-20 £7.49
16-17 £5.28
apprenticeship: £5.28

very cool system

[charred void]

ye poor uk

[cobalt hazel]

£10.42 is higher than the minimum wage back in 1999 when adjusted for inflation

[charred void]

wondering how the life is in like uzbekistan

[river wolf]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1022040165033705503/1022042128236412928/NinavSiderealWankge.gif

[uncut dirge]

is this a joke about immigration that i missed

[cobalt hazel]

i need to renew my irish passport

so that i can freely travel through EU still

[tardy tusk]

yo wtf

sauce

[cobalt hazel]

my irish passport has been expired for like 2 years now

i think the limit is 5 years before i have to go through the entire application process again

[teal herald]

blocked

[random ginkgo]

Renewing should be easy tho

[cobalt hazel]

ye, just send it in with a new photo and £82 or something

[river wolf]

[cobalt hazel]

ive just been too lazy

[uncut dirge]

i'm kinda surprised we could hit level 60

so quickly on jump start

[charred void]

this is 2 weeks on naw regular server compared

[uncut dirge]

interesting

[river wolf]

ran out of fusion so i cannot hone anymore

[gilded ember]

Is deep dive 18 better than los 18?

[uncut dirge]

that's an interesting question i'd like to know the answer to as well

[charred void]

its better

some things make los 18 better

[uncut dirge]

yeah on sorc los18 is better

[fair mountain]

Its worse always

[teal herald]

meanwhile min in poland 4,36 £

[uncut dirge]

communism will do that to ya

[teal herald]

fair life like always

[gilded ember]

Why when dmg is 1% More and kayangel Deal light Not dark dmg

[charred void]

just dont bother

[obsidian lava]

hmm how long this lucky mokoko event lasts?

[charred void]

there are some sweaty min max data out

[void tulip]

I was paid 10 pounds (roughly 12 usd) at a store I worked at

[charred void]

equip deep dive 18 if you have

[void tulip]

I live in the US so yeah

[fair mountain]

Deep dive is additional dmg ( scales with weapon quality yearning etc) los its just that %

[charred void]

swap to los 18 IF the boss is allergic to holy

[teal herald]

where ppl

[void tulip]

9 pounds 69 pennies

[dusty cloak]

wrong

[dusty cloak]

los 18 is always better

the situation is in deep dive 30 vs los 18

not deep dive 18

los 18 is always better than deep dive 18

[fair mountain]

Deep 30 is slightly better than los18, deep18 no way

[gilded ember]

So los scales different?

[charred void]

yes

[dusty cloak]

LOS is flat % damage increase

While deep dive has different calculations

[gilded ember]

Okay thanks

[empty sleet]

How about 3 cards of the back atack set maxed +3 los maxed for switch to light dmg on entropy classes?

[charred void]

you need 6 los cards equipped

equipping 3 gives you 10% dark dmg reduction

[empty sleet]

Ok never mind then

[void tulip]

oh god the card system

I dont even pay attention to that

like imo the percentages are just so small, like 15% is not alot when the damage number is, well big

[buoyant wagon]

some back attackers like wardancer and striker use back attack set with fate of the lazeniths

but only because they actually benefit from elemental damage

[teal herald]

best pack

[buoyant wagon]

15% damage from los30 is a true 15% damage increase

it's an entire engraving

[silver hollow]

0 progress made

[void tulip]

OH THEN ENGRAVING

HOW COULD I FORGET

I dont even pay attention to that shit

[charred void]

[muted wraith]

man the amount of trash people this game attract as f2p is unbelievable, even you cant have human level discussion with them

[cinder plume]

I'm 2 balthor spawns from DD30

[charred void]

welcome to f2p online games

[frosty sphinx]

normal humans in a korean mmo? they dont exist

[empty sleet]

You can buy cards twice if he spawns

If your fast enough

[cinder plume]

Yeah I'm 4 short, gotta double buy both

[muted wraith]

its sad and so freakin frustrating

[charred void]

it is

[void tulip]

I just want to finish the campaign

get the key to the ark and overthrow regulus and well, sounds like my lucifer arc

but yeah

isnt regulus the big bird dude instead of the zeus statue they made lmao

really creative there amazon, really creative

[uneven mortar]

you know i realized most of my tome is 80%

[cinder plume]

We gotta slap kazeros then regulus then armen, side quest to yeet the sacrians, then take kharmine to pound town

[tardy tusk]

[teal herald]

coming 2028

[empty sleet]

Btw is there some kind of list where i could see wich quest gives cards for los?

Quest/tome…

[void tulip]

that was sarcasm

when I went to the temple of light and saw the statue of regulus, I legit said 'that's fucking zeus"

[teal herald]

who tf is regulus

[tardy tusk]

We have a statue of regulus?

wtf

[cinder plume]

Part of the elgacia quest right?

[void tulip]

yeah

[tardy tusk]

in elgacia?

[charred void]

this game has story?

[cinder plume]

Stop shift G'ing

[tardy tusk]

i mean yes

a good one ngl

[teal herald]

[charred void]

really?

good?

[cinder plume]

Elgacia story was really good

[charred void]

kekw

[teal herald]

story in la kekw

[void tulip]

stale story

it could of been good

[tardy tusk]

oooooooh

[void tulip]

but good lord they like to sexualize the women

the queens be um

yeha

[tardy tusk]

the statue lauriel destroy?

[void tulip]

might as well be boku no pico

[tardy tusk]

[empty sleet]

I kinda lost the story after the lailai arc it haunts me in my dreams

[void tulip]

sigh

imma take a screenshot when the game is done installing again

[charred void]

wait until you see the ingame skins

[cinder plume]

USA booba sword queen

[void tulip]

that is what im talking about

korea be on something idfferent

[tardy tusk]

i mean gachas have worse skins

[void tulip]

then again they're facing potential extinction everyday due to their northern crack head brothers

so might as well enjoy life while you can

[empty sleet]

I mean i only play male chara but the skins are not all bad lol

[buoyant wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-xokas-gif-24804438

[void tulip]

same

[tardy tusk]

bikinis goddess

[void tulip]

bersker my beloved

big boi sword

but good lord i wish you could kill the end game boss

and steal the loot

without armen interferring or the other dude

[cinder plume]

In lost ark 2 you'll get payback on Armen for all the kill stealing

[void tulip]

I should play my berserk character and level him up

[void tulip]

coming 2050

[violet finch]

am rich

[lime dove]

why cant we enter the legion raids again with friends after we have completed it once?

just make it so no rewards after first time

[violet finch]

Why don't we let the bussers bus

So they can earn infinite gold

[lime dove]

[nova garden]

Real

[lime dove]

oh

forgot thats a thing

rip

[nova garden]

It would prolly make prices so much cheaper

[cunning mesa]

can always make more chars unless you are talking about akkan

[teal herald]

i hate this stupid game

[lime dove]

thats the issue

[teal herald]

remove yearning and give everyone 10% as

[lime dove]

it makes it so almost forced to make multiple chars

[cunning mesa]

well, thats the design goal

they want you to play multiple chars

[lime dove]

not what i last heard

but damn thats tragic

[charred void]

man naw is really special

[cunning mesa]

so you can try out different classes and swipe more

[teal herald]

design = your new 2nd job

[nova garden]

You gonna grab mokokos?

[charred void]

joined brel g3 reclear, we wiped twice before the first mechanic, wiped on blue cubes

[teal herald]

toxic zerk

[nova garden]

[teal herald]

[violet finch]

Why didn't you invite me there

[nova garden]

I always gatekeep zerks

[charred void]

on naw?

[violet finch]

I have a 9 7 rock account I bought in NAw

[nova garden]

They’re always toxic

[teal herald]

[cunning mesa]

after this week im mentally at that point ngl xD

D: wtf thats too toxic

[trail tendon]

https://i.imgur.com/8O6cp2Z.png

now we wait

[charred void]

didnt fill

[trail tendon]

ok man sure ill buy the last two

everything else was just manual labour

[trail tendon]

[fervent ibex]

they've added a trading channel to the discord

[nova garden]

That they did

[lime dove]

@violet finch r u playing jump start

[fervent ibex]

zz why doesnt this game just allow proper cross server trading

im never gonna find shit on my dead fucking server

[violet finch]

ew

[lime dove]

[fervent ibex]

gonna be hard to convince someone to "gift it to my stronghold, and list a gem, i promise i'll buy"

[trail tendon]

were u the sorc chilling on zinnervale at 3am last night

[charred void]

[trail tendon]

most i got was 40 at this event

[lime dove]

i heard that 10k gold from that event is very common

can u guys confirm

[violet finch]

All lies

[trail tendon]

shroud went there fo the first time ever on stream

and got 10k

[lime dove]

orly

maybe on jump start it has increased rates then

[violet finch]

have yet to get one

[lime dove]

cause ive only heard from Jump start

[empty sleet]

Very common if you’re me

[fervent ibex]

me and my friend both got 10k. i wouldnt say its very common, but its not uber rare

[cunning mesa]

you could never get it. but so far everyone seems to be getting at least 1

[fervent ibex]

uber rare is the 100k drop

[lime dove]

ive only done it once since js

so rip chances

I didnt know about it till 2 days ago

[uneven mortar]

oh damn

[lime dove]

ohh i heard of that

[uneven mortar]

is this the f2p blessing

[lime dove]

its k soon enough

how r primal islands?

[fervent ibex]

kinda cancer tbh

[frosty sphinx]

its not that bad lol

[fervent ibex]

the weapons are constant push back so if you get hit once without your spacebar you're pretty much 100% gonna die lol

and u cant retaliate while getting pushed back

[frosty sphinx]

? just farm mobs get battle item and upgrade weapon and get an easy top 1-3

done for the week

pretty free

[fervent ibex]

u never run into any players????

[frosty sphinx]

i do

[fervent ibex]

im constantly running into players

[frosty sphinx]

with upgraded wep and battle items, easy kill

ure just not really playing it then

[lime dove]

[fervent ibex]

i run into more players than dinos

[frosty sphinx]

fighting at lvl 0 with no items lmao

[fervent ibex]

zz

yo how can i fight mobs when i spawn next to 2 people

[lime dove]

@violet finch come NAE jump start I carry you

[frosty sphinx]

run away

its only bad if u run into colluders

[violet finch]

got kicked out of party for chaos map

[fervent ibex]

im always getting run down by players half way across the map

[violet finch]

Pass

[empty sleet]

Lol

[lime dove]

chaos gate?

[cunning mesa]

you run away

[empty sleet]

Kicked because esther wep