lost-ark-discussions

[uneven mortar]

think abt it mountaineers with esther + 8 is spending this much time, and you have na/eu andies trynna do thaemoon with lvl 5 gems on ilvl

[tulip charm]

no time to play on a new server

[uneven mortar]

if sg isnt completely brain dead they will nerg thaemoon tot he ground

[nova garden]

holy

[supple parrot]

[nova garden]

g2 looks crazy mang

[dusty cloak]

lol you realize they're still figuring out and learning all the mechs?

[supple parrot]

just stop playin ur lopangs

[tidal sleet]

g2 looks awesome

[cedar zealot]

Are u playing on js

[supple parrot]

i might make a char

[cedar zealot]

Naw or nae

[supple parrot]

but not gonna play it much

[uneven mortar]

look at how fast they bring the hp to 135

[supple parrot]

naw prob

[cedar zealot]

[empty sleet]

thae raid looks extremely involved compared to the rest

[nova garden]

plz make one
i need to progress my gear somehow

[uneven mortar]

imagine doing that on ilvl lvl 3 gems like our average na/eu andies

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

they all have lv11 gems and sideral weapons like zeals

[dusty cloak]

it is supposed to be the hardest raid to date

[supple parrot]

idk wut class im gonna make

[empty sleet]

make a striker

[uneven mortar]

they figure things out so quick because they were flying through the mechs

[supple parrot]

hell nah

[tidal sleet]

make at scouter

[empty sleet]

why not man

[uneven mortar]

imagine having your igniter sorc friend getting 1 shotted and asking to restart because they cant dodge

[supple parrot]

im not making anything that req skill pts or runes

[obtuse oyster]

deadge class

[empty sleet]

surely nothing wrong with it

[dusty cloak]

they're also getting information from a group that's further along than they are lol

[empty sleet]

ima make you a deadge class

[nova garden]

they also have coaches watching like 10 different streams and sending them notes

[tidal sleet]

that was basically my akkan prog experience

even now sorc winds up dead more than others

[supple parrot]

i think im goin either pistoleer or loyal companion ss

[obtuse oyster]

[dusty cloak]

yea literally one of the groups was like we gotta go quick, everyone's getting notes from us

[dense canyon]

Is saint the only one progging g2?

[empty sleet]

does slayer req any horizontal prog

[dusty cloak]

there's plenty of groups doing g2 right now

[obtuse oyster]

yes

[uneven mortar]

exactly, thse guys dont have to deal with it because everyoen 1655 280k hp

[dense canyon]

Oh, I'm

[uneven mortar]

they are prety much ignoring normal atk lol

[nova garden]

predator not so much, punisher requires a decent amount, and 1.0 cycle requires a ton

[obtuse oyster]

unless you play pred @empty sleet

[empty sleet]

fuck

[tidal sleet]

just play pred

[empty sleet]

idk the difference so uh someone tell me which to play

[nova garden]

predator slayer doesn't really need much at all tho

[tidal sleet]

its zoom

[empty sleet]

[supple parrot]

what gate are they progging now?

[dusty cloak]

gate 2

[ancient tundra]

G2

[supple parrot]

how many gates total

[obtuse oyster]

punisher spec (big numbers), pred is swift (zoom zoom)

[nova garden]

four

[dusty cloak]

4 gates total

[supple parrot]

[tidal sleet]

saints in g2, memo crew g1, couple of others g2 as well

[tulip charm]

how come you don't have a single martial artist class

[supple parrot]

req skill pts

[nova garden]

but g4 is the same gold reward as g1-3 combined. I imagine it's gonna be despair

[empty sleet]

i think i’ll go punisher so i dont get used to swift dmg lol

[tidal sleet]

1.5 cycle is ok

[ancient tundra]

Punisher is fun

[tidal sleet]

but you need many runes to operate her properly

wealth runes out the wazoo

[dense canyon]

why would slayer req a lot of horizontal?

[dusty cloak]

1.0 punisher is probably the most investment you'll require in a character

[nova garden]

wealth runes and skill points

[tidal sleet]

to achieve 1.0

[dense canyon]

Ohhh

[empty sleet]

fuck

[dense canyon]

Idk what 1.0 is

[nova garden]

1.0 needs sea bounty purple wealth rune

[dusty cloak]

/slayer

[obtuse oyster]

1 cycle

[empty sleet]

i’ll try to not get used to swift dmg then and stick with that other one

[tidal sleet]

you want meter gen as much as possible. You cant even run purify, overwhelm or bleed in that build

[supple parrot]

just go 1.5

[nova garden]

to fill meter to full in one rotation

[ancient tundra]

Cause 1.5 is pretty much how u first start playing punisher slayer
1.0 is where you really get used to her

[dense canyon]

Ohhh I see

[obtuse oyster]

so one full rotation of skills

[supple parrot]

only losers play 1.0

[tidal sleet]

its literally just galewinds and wealth runes

[keen copper]

if ur not playing 1.0 cycle, just play pred honestly

[dense canyon]

Ohhh yeah I see now

Good thing I went ds ss

[cunning mesa]

[dusty cloak]

played 1.5 for a bit, felt bored so switched to pred

[dense canyon]

[nova garden]

15 days and I can run double counter 1.0

[empty sleet]

pred is just piano with avg dmg right

[obtuse oyster]

sounds like no purple wealth behaviour

[keen copper]

[obtuse oyster]

S tier dmg

[empty sleet]

oh

[supple parrot]

i have the 42 bounty 2nd focus for my zerker

show some respect

[obtuse oyster]

welcome to slayer

[dull obsidian]

any g2 clears?

[dense canyon]

You get a free purple from island tho

[empty sleet]

well fuck

[nova garden]

there's a reason why predator books are like 12k gold still

[dense canyon]

It's 100% drop

[obtuse oyster]

two purple

[empty sleet]

now i wanna swap my striker out for booba

[dense canyon]

[tidal sleet]

I want to get 5x3+1 so double counter gonna be tough

[nova garden]

i gotta recut rock for +1

not worth

[tidal sleet]

1824 spec requirement, im sitting at 1823 rn

[empty sleet]

next pp is so far though

[obtuse oyster]

[tidal sleet]

getting 100 qual +6 stuff gonna be costly

[nova garden]

wait, thought it was 1809

[tidal sleet]

no

[nova garden]

fuck

oh well

[cunning mesa]

imagine not having second purple wealth

im so good at this game someone praise me

[tidal sleet]

good job yumi

[empty sleet]

gj

[obtuse oyster]

[cunning mesa]

[cunning mesa]

why is that emote called ass slap

[empty sleet]

time to become a better slayer main than icy tomorrow

[obtuse oyster]

AS slap

[empty sleet]

well not even tomorrow anymore later today

[obtuse oyster]

but idk

[nova garden]

[tidal sleet]

im not sure memo is making g2 today

[obtuse oyster]

fr

[tidal sleet]

do they have a time limit? coming up 7hours now

[dense canyon]

Good thing I avoided slayer lmao

[empty sleet]

i play bard im used to piano

[dense canyon]

That spec seems insane

[tidal sleet]

you can run somewhere in the 1600-1700 iirc

[cunning mesa]

too late

[uneven mortar]

im too old to be doing thae hm

[cunning mesa]

i see it as an ass slap

[tidal sleet]

its just the specific build Icy and I are talking about require very high spec to achieve 1.0

[cunning mesa]

i cant be fixed

[dense canyon]

Erh, I'm running ds with 1660 crit and 480 something swift. So far so good for now

[burnt tree]

Do NM

[tidal sleet]

I like cruel pierce too much to switch to double counter anyway, it gives me underline on stagger every gate

[dense canyon]

Ah yea

[obtuse oyster]

[nova garden]

I'm only at 1811 spec

[tidal sleet]

pleb

[uneven mortar]

i need to find chinese team with only zerkers for my thae nm prog

[cunning mesa]

sorry

[tidal sleet]

[burnt tree]

Im only at 1848 sadge

[nova garden]

I'll have to rebuy two acc to hit that breakpoint

[uneven mortar]

finish this bad boy in 1 hour

[buoyant wagon]

cant wait to see bozo jar skin prices

[tidal sleet]

i can go to max -4 spec right now if I replace my punisher ring

[uneven mortar]

500k per piece

[empty sleet]

btw icy when do i get a normal person role so i get pings

[nova garden]

devs already said they're gonna nerf him after a bit, then implement the removed shit into hell mode

[uneven mortar]

jk you can prolly get the whole thing in 1m

[buoyant wagon]

most im paying is 200k

which is 800k for a set

[tulip charm]

they are straight up selling the full legendary skin sets right? i am guessing prob like 300$ a set

[nova garden]

idk, ping the guild master can say icy called him a bozo for forgetting your role

[burnt tree]

Yep they made Kamenussy extra hard on purpose

[obtuse oyster]

[buoyant wagon]

what

[empty sleet]

yeah idk the GM lol

[obtuse oyster]

almost 1mil gold for 2% dmg

[burnt tree]

Zheng is under a cave

[empty sleet]

nvm its on the side

[buoyant wagon]

it's actually one of the most cost efficient damage increases at this point

[uneven mortar]

800k for 2%

[supple parrot]

wait so u can just buy it with no rng?

[uneven mortar]

same efficiency as 9/7

[obtuse oyster]

no

[supple parrot]

cept 9/7 is not guranteed even if u spend 2 mil gold

[obtuse oyster]

a person gotta gamba it and then sell it to the ah

[supple parrot]

and ur gonna need to spend a lot of gold on full 6/3 accesories

[tulip charm]

[obtuse oyster]

yesss sir, get ready to not get your leggo skin till a couple months from now

[buoyant wagon]

skin prices are going to be so fucked with our population

[obtuse oyster]

yep

[buoyant wagon]

we're also split into 4 regions

which makes the population problem even worse

[tulip charm]

its not for me and anyways -_-, i have no gold and the only skins i have are ark pass skins, and i don't have a huge stash of older skins either

this is more for people like lin and nova

[obtuse oyster]

unless skin prices go down, there's no way leggo skins are gonna be cheap

[supple parrot]

Pistoleer actually looks kinda fun

Helicopta

[buoyant wagon]

they're not going to go down, there are enough rich players left willing to pay inflated prices

[obtuse oyster]

yep

[buoyant wagon]

i think pieces are going to be 100k at the lowest

[obtuse oyster]

I'm guessing 150-200k

[supple parrot]

Imma have to wait for ppl like wrekk to compete against one and another and lower the price

[obtuse oyster]

and if you're class is unpopular or has no whales

gg

[buoyant wagon]

150-250 was my ballpark estimate for week 1

[tulip charm]

lost ark player facing the obvious choice : buy level 9 gems or buy skins. hmm....will all pick skins lol

[buoyant wagon]

only have 500k on me, need to message chuan's cousins for more gold when servers are up

[supple parrot]

I mean at this point if u don’t have lv9s idk what ur even doing

[tulip charm]

btw were you able to clear g3hm this week? or at least put in some good prog exp? i am gonna attempt g3hm in 2 weeks, for now just gonna 1-2hm3nm

[buoyant wagon]

cleared

with what was basically a pug group

though it took 8 hours across 2 days

[obtuse oyster]

[buoyant wagon]

i think only half the people there cleared it and the others were prog

[tulip charm]

there is more g3hm pugs than 1-2hm pugs i think right now, alot of people just sit in g3hm and wait

[supple parrot]

How many pieces for weapon again? Is it 80 or 100

[buoyant wagon]

group was surprisingly decent for a pug group aside from the 3 that were friends

100

except that first db that we ran with for 3 hours

[tulip charm]

100 , sad, if it was 80 id be able to get it next week

[buoyant wagon]

christ that guy was fucking terrible

[supple parrot]

Dang so it will take a long ass time for me to get weapon

[tulip charm]

i am gonna have like 90 eyes after clear this reset

[dull obsidian]

Its always the DB's huh

[buoyant wagon]

1600 surge with no los30, did below 6m dps, had 0.7% demon damage, on the floor half the time, couldnt lantern either

[lean pewter]

chuan, how fast do you think your cousins will have stable supply on jumpstart servers?

[dull obsidian]

Sounds like me

[supple parrot]

6m

[buoyant wagon]

had to be an account buyer or handicapped

[empty sleet]

should i do a LP on my main roster or on jumpstart for brel

[tulip charm]

yes but not that long, 3 weeks i think after you hit 1600 for your weapon, compared to 5 weeks of normal

potentially 2 weeks if you do 1-3hm and win all the chests

[tidal sleet]

Imagine spending 9k on a 1600 acc only to be floor pov or dead

[dull obsidian]

no way 1600 ilvl accounts are 9k

[supple parrot]

Maybe 2 weeks I need to get the box from normal on my main

[obtuse oyster]

ishy fr

[stark thicket]

[tidal sleet]

A entry level T3 account is like 400 bucks

[stark thicket]

time for bed and another scary dream

[amber mantle]

hey everyone, ill return to the game with js servers and planning to play Slayer, which one do u guys suggest pred or punisher

[buoyant wagon]

you can get a gemless 1580 main and 5 1540 alt account for within $400

[tidal sleet]

You have connections clearly cos I was interested and had a look on a gamer site yesterday

[dull obsidian]

wtf?? my account is worth like $4500 USD?

[tidal sleet]

Heah

[supple parrot]

[obtuse oyster]

[supple parrot]

Stfu icee

[dull obsidian]

Cya guys I'm going to spend that on league of legos

[obtuse oyster]

no rule breaking talk

[empty sleet]

can i break your rules

[tidal sleet]

[obtuse oyster]

if you eat this ban

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

ive had to put "no account buyers" on my brel 5-6 and kyangel titles lately, it helps sometimes

[supple parrot]

Zheng is so toxic

[tidal sleet]

Lol@supple parrot

Whoops

[empty sleet]

but is it a perma?

[dull obsidian]

[tidal sleet]

Sorry Chuan, phone clicked your name and atted

[left sierra]

Did u carry him or yeet

[obtuse oyster]

Temporarily-indefinite

[supple parrot]

Zheng is unironically the most toxic person I know in lost ark. Dude will just talk shit to ppls face before raid even starts

[lean pewter]

[buoyant wagon]

no he got kicked after 3 hours

[empty sleet]

might be worth the gamba

[left sierra]

3h

[buoyant wagon]

party leader told him to run defensive card set to stay alive

[left sierra]

How did he not adapt after 3h

[tulip charm]

good advice

[buoyant wagon]

apparently he misunderstood and only put forest of giants in and the 2 other cards were still LOS

[left sierra]

[empty sleet]

[supple parrot]

Why not kick after 2 pulls

[obtuse oyster]

fr

[supple parrot]

Why wait 3 hours

[cunning mesa]

eat deez

[buoyant wagon]

because we were running at 5 am server time and its kind of hard finding a replacement

[left sierra]

U ain't got deez

[empty sleet]

only 2 pulls is harsh no?

[cunning mesa]

i have some interesting news for you

[obtuse oyster]

nah

[left sierra]

[empty sleet]

was the lobby a reclear?

[dull obsidian]

[lean pewter]

[cunning mesa]

[left sierra]

Not sure I want to know

[buoyant wagon]

supposedly reclear but im pretty sure half or less actually beat it before

[dull obsidian]

serenade I push my supp in 3 weeks, carry me

[empty sleet]

ah

[buoyant wagon]

including me

[left sierra]

[cunning mesa]

life is rough

[tulip charm]

@buoyant wagon since you put in 8hours, for your group, when the first lantern guy is at 4bars, what is the hp of the boss outside for u guys on average? and did you switch out the first lantern guy at 3 bars or 4 bars?

[lean pewter]

go to bed

[left sierra]

I've 3 of deez

[supple parrot]

I mean how would u know if someone is reclear. Imma be joining reclears on my first clear too

[buoyant wagon]

i had the least deaths across all pulls along with lobby leader

[cunning mesa]

why would i

[lean pewter]

2 of those are just halves

[dull obsidian]

deathblade chonky tho

[cunning mesa]

im not even tired

[left sierra]

[cunning mesa]

also won another battle in warhammer

[empty sleet]

my db 1477 and almost has the hp of my striker lol

[buoyant wagon]

i mean i've progged to like 150 bars g4 before so i've seen the whole raid basically

[dim lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852619895119020033/939588627397218414/i016344842816-8x-RIFE-RIFE3.1-50fps.gif

[dull obsidian]

Oh yeh I need to watch some g4 video

[dim lark]

Fuck

[left sierra]

Sounds like some polish dude is looking at porn w speakers on the train I'm dead bro

[supple parrot]

Who here will play naw jump start? React to this msg

[empty sleet]

epic embed fail

[dull obsidian]

Epic embed brother

[buoyant wagon]

our biggest issue was we had no actual lantern player

[cunning mesa]

lost 400 killed 1000+

[dim lark]

Ur mom is epic

[cunning mesa]

im not clicking sussy links

[dull obsidian]

wtf thats all you had to say

I'm honing to 1600

[dim lark]

Go sleep

[lean pewter]

are you playing doomstacks?

[buoyant wagon]

pug zerker volunteered to do lantern and just sort of winged it after learning it for a couple of hours

[cunning mesa]

im playing vampire counts

[left sierra]

I'll do lantern

Walk around shoot eggs

[buoyant wagon]

but still kind of scuffed in addition to people just eating too many attacks and spawning too many pools

[tulip charm]

this is...strange, someone's gotta do the damn job and step it up

[left sierra]

Petrify ugly faces

[supple parrot]

What is there to learn for lantern.. u just walk in circles

[left sierra]

[supple parrot]

[tulip charm]

it spawns like 3 or 4x the speed of normal for puddles

[buoyant wagon]

yeah

[tulip charm]

and there is a big ass ghost inside following you

[lean pewter]

as lowest dps scrapper player I've been perma designated to lantern

[supple parrot]

That’s cuz ppl are face tanking

[left sierra]

Petrify it

[supple parrot]

U just petrify the ghost right

[buoyant wagon]

running again with same group this weekend and i hope we dont get jailed for too long

[tulip charm]

even if they don't facetank it still spawns abnormally fast

[left sierra]

Just play swift class

[supple parrot]

And everything else is same as nm

[empty sleet]

which gate is this lantern, about to watch it to see what you guys keep talking about

[left sierra]

Outrun it

[dull obsidian]

g3

[obtuse oyster]

g3

[tulip charm]

you can yea, but if your build isnt' swift you can't perm petrify it, its almost perm petrify if your not swift

[supple parrot]

Ya but u can just jsut clear em right

[buoyant wagon]

2 pulls is too early to tell if someone is shit unless you got very deep in both pulls and bible shows that they are zdps

[left sierra]

Shoot the 🥚

[buoyant wagon]

even then if they are zdps but stay alive it's probably worth keeping them for the time being

[supple parrot]

Not when u know they are doing 6m

[dull obsidian]

Dude its actually kinda insane

how much dmg the Koreans do

[left sierra]

Was watching Aly do lantern on gl I almosf fell asleep

[obtuse oyster]

elixirs

us in december

fr fr

[buoyant wagon]

db volunteered for lantern first, kept dying, then went outside, and then i saw his dps

[dull obsidian]

LOL

[buoyant wagon]

so i didnt see his numbers at first

[left sierra]

Should've stayed inside

[supple parrot]

[empty sleet]

well its a good thing i do zdps with support buffs so i’ll just run around doing mechs lol

[tulip charm]

sometimes you can get unlucky with the puddle spawns and they are too spaced apart during pilar rotation mech, plus in normal its like you kill 1, move, kill 1 move, in hm its not uncommon for you to stop your char, kill 3 puddles, move, kill 3, move, repeat

[rigid aurora]

@rugged lynx

[buoyant wagon]

his synergy uptime was atrociously bad also, i recall it was <40% but i cant be too sure

[empty sleet]

g2 looks fucking brutal lol

[left sierra]

@supple parrot just wing it don't listen to Zheng

[dull obsidian]

There is 0 way a deathblade syn is 40% LOL

[obtuse oyster]

HOW

[left sierra]

Pew pew eggs and run circle

[dull obsidian]

is he in Narnia

[obtuse oyster]

he just press spin cutter

[supple parrot]

Wait were u playing with Zheng

[dull obsidian]

wasn't he surgeblade?

[buoyant wagon]

yeah he was surge

[dull obsidian]

if he isn't clicking spincutter what the fuck? LOL

[ancient tundra]

It s been forever since i heard this word

[obtuse oyster]

fr

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

@ancient tundra

[left sierra]

Maybe he doing 7 orb surges

[dull obsidian]

We say Africa, Indonesia, Narnia, Mars whenever "Long DIstance"

[ancient tundra]

Wassup

[obtuse oyster]

you mean 2 stacks

[tulip charm]

i asked my question earlier, mainly because i am trying to get a accurate assement of what the dps outside is suppose to adequate, when the 2nd lantern guy has to go in
like is the boss suppose to be around 60-70bars when the first lantern is 3 or 4 bars filled? what is the dmg of an average group before the first lantern guy needs to come out and switch

[left sierra]

[dull obsidian]

"Bro wtf he just sent me to Narnia"

[empty sleet]

is there a guide on this whole synergy mumbo jumbo? heard of synergy but not synergy uptime

[dull obsidian]

"??? He just dashed to Indonesia"

[cedar crown]

Are we getting the graphical enhancement with this patch? The one KR got recently?

[supple parrot]

Just use abacus

[left sierra]

Just keep pressing ur synergy

[glacial marsh]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/party-synergies

[left sierra]

[empty sleet]

so my synergy uptime is the cd of my syn

[glacial marsh]

slightly out of date numbers wise

[glacial marsh]

ooh

[dawn yacht]

[glacial marsh]

a better one

[obtuse oyster]

you can only see uptime with the bible

[urban obsidian]

@rigid aurora PLAY ROBLOX

[obtuse oyster]

[tulip charm]

well, on average i am trying to find what the hp bar outside is suppose to be, lin said his group when the first guy had to come out he had the boss's hp around 40 bars, but there is no way average groups can output that much dmg

[rigid aurora]

hail no

[rugged lynx]

Roblox where

[empty sleet]

wtf is the bible lol

[dawn yacht]

[dull obsidian]

oh in KR you can give raid lead without it changing numbers now

that is so good

[empty sleet]

in game bible i know what it is irl dont anyone say anything

[rugged lynx]

Spent 500 hours On a Roblox game to never play it again

[obtuse oyster]

the hidden tech that is against tos and this discord rules

[urban obsidian]

@obtuse oyster wanna coach my bard gameplay

[dull obsidian]

Have mountaineers gotten close to g2 clear?

[empty sleet]

oh its that thing

[obtuse oyster]

press HT > wait till HT buff about to fall off > Sonic vibiration (make sure to brand inbetween)

[empty sleet]

im glad its not allowed otherwise people would see im doing fuck all lol

[obtuse oyster]

ez radiant

[urban obsidian]

then just spam 3 bar buffs right

[obtuse oyster]

yeah

[buoyant wagon]

dps to a degree is irrelevant because it's pretty much impossible to hit enrage but good dps makes start to 30 bars go a lot quicker and therefore less time spent redoing the gate when you restart, and less time seeing normal mechs = less chances for your team to fuck up and die

[rugged lynx]

noun
1.
the Christian scriptures, consisting of the Old and New Testaments.

[urban obsidian]

who needs healing

[supple parrot]

Why is bible against tos and rules. U hate God?

[buoyant wagon]

but if you want to know what's a good ballpark for what dps should be doing

[obtuse oyster]

2 if it's a good window or if you have a dent or dents that can't stay above 50% hp

[glacial marsh]

are you referring to normal or hard

[tulip charm]

i think most groups are at around 60-70bars

[glacial marsh]

i assume hard right?

[urban obsidian]

im letting yuzu die

[tulip charm]

before the first guy's gotta come out

[glacial marsh]

[obtuse oyster]

he about to learn the way of purple pots

[tulip charm]

normal the lantern guy dosn't even need to come out until tower

[empty sleet]

i dont think i have the combat stats to get radiant bard

[buoyant wagon]

i'd say on ilvl 1600 (without overhoned weapon, average level 9 gems, los30) shouldnt be doing lower than 9m by 30 bars, this excludes lantern player

[rugged lynx]

should I even do 2 bar damage buffs, I either only heal 1 bar or only 3 bar dmg buff

[glacial marsh]

on normal, 1 lantern is enough, should have 0 stacks at ~120

if not enough DPS, is DPS fault

[left sierra]

4.8 % wf buffs I coom

[glacial marsh]

guys

[obtuse oyster]

but you can 2 bubble if the window is good

[urban obsidian]

?

[obtuse oyster]

and dps are unloading

[left sierra]

Time to cook

[glacial marsh]

im ready to do 300K more on my GL tomorrow

[urban obsidian]

he cannot read it seems

[buoyant wagon]

above average players should be doing at least 11m

[supple parrot]

Is dps in hm basically same as in nm? Or a lot more bad patterns

[empty sleet]

is the dmg one even good to use

[dull obsidian]

I always spam 2 bubble

[left sierra]

Why u question mark

[urban obsidian]

its 4.2

[dull obsidian]

I have FI WD and Pred slayer

[left sierra]

Oh

[obtuse oyster]

you have the weird 60/40 swift/spec setup

[left sierra]

Same thing

[glacial marsh]

I should go to bed

[left sierra]

Still coom

[tulip charm]

almost exactly the same, the only additional pattern is the slow ass gullatine drops that can sometimes spawn in bad places to stall out melee players

[urban obsidian]

true 0x4.2 is still 0

[dull obsidian]

I'm 850 spec, 1550 swift

[buoyant wagon]

things hurt more and pools spawn significantly quicker, also more hp = more time spent seeing normal patterns

[left sierra]

What 0 sounds like a you problem

[rugged lynx]

I don't spam 2 bubble anything, as in like if I have a 2 bar dmg buff ready and a stagger check finishes is it worth it

[obtuse oyster]

yes

well

actually depends

[dull obsidian]

I never build up a third bubble

[obtuse oyster]

if they all unloaded on stagger

no point in 2bubbling

since they wont have anything up

[left sierra]

[buoyant wagon]

it's not a hard raid but it's punishing in the same sense as hm brel g6 in that early deaths really hold back your team especially if they arent cracked and juiced

[left sierra]

I want ice in my party

[dull obsidian]

its the annoying revives too

[rugged lynx]

Icee is a smart person

[dull obsidian]

wastes big skills and sometime sthey don't even die with that

[obtuse oyster]

if it was a counter

[buoyant wagon]

yeah revives are extremely cancerous once more than 1 person dies

[obtuse oyster]

and you only have 2

just send the 2

[rugged lynx]

I also took Justin's bard advice of brining stimulants

[buoyant wagon]

1600 players take fucking forever to die

[empty sleet]

pally’s dmg buff is selfish right

[rugged lynx]

that's the best thing ever

[dull obsidian]

@buoyant wagon how much tankier are they?

From Akkan NM -> HM

[rugged lynx]

Blessed aura?

[empty sleet]

no the blue one

[supple parrot]

And that’s why u shouldn’t quality tap armor

[buoyant wagon]

my surge probably does like 30% to 1600+

[rugged lynx]

Thats a blue skill damage boost to him only

[dull obsidian]

wtf

[empty sleet]

thought so

[tulip charm]

[empty sleet]

pally is probably why i dont use the dmg buffs on my artist or bard lol

[supple parrot]

Prob takes 20 ppl to kill u

[last light]

How difficult is it for returning players to catch up to Akkan?

[dull obsidian]

I mean tbf

[tulip charm]

this is why they are nerfing g2 tienis boss dmg, didn't even know it did any dmg to begin with

[dull obsidian]

Entropy users deal dmg with positionals

I don't think they have positionals

[obtuse oyster]

fker does soo much dmg

[buoyant wagon]

@tulip charm anyways if you run bible, anyone doing below 8m who isn't lantern is extremely concerning, especially if it is multiple players

[left sierra]

Love artists the most since most of them can play it. Bards are a hit and miss just like pallies I only know 2 good pallys

[supple parrot]

Wdym by catch up? U mean honing?

[dull obsidian]

hit master probably does more to dead players

[last light]

Yeah, ilvl wise 🙂

[rugged lynx]

Well in particular 1540 is free right now, it might be hard for a new player if they have no Alts to get to 1580

[left sierra]

Not that bad

[empty sleet]

came back after leaving shortly after vykas and im 1516

[left sierra]

Came back 2 mo tha ago on a fresh account I'm 1575

[tulip charm]

i don't remb this

[delicate sandal]

i was disappointed hearing that that was the nerf i was hoping they would nerf his random erractic movements

[rugged lynx]

Um

[supple parrot]

There is express event that can get u to 1540 fairly easily with some additional support to 1580. But it’s still gonna take a bit depending on how much resources u have

[urban obsidian]

f2p

[dull obsidian]

What is the "minimum", "expected" and "high" dps?

[buoyant wagon]

shards are going to be the biggest bottleneck for 1580

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-gif-26462158

[supple parrot]

Jump start server launch tmrw

[left sierra]

Maybe 3 soon

[tulip charm]

wtf can't link

[rugged lynx]

Maybe if I stop spending all my gold on Alts I could have a 1580

[obtuse oyster]

well

[dim lark]

U suck

[obtuse oyster]

you would need to pick a main first

[buoyant wagon]

like i said earlier, for a 1600 with los30, average level 9 gems, 22 brel weapon, i'd say 9m is average with average hands

[lean pewter]

lin got 9 mains now?

[left sierra]

Stopped all my alts at 1500 and 1490 and saved 2 months for aero

[empty sleet]

i need to spend my gold on alts but was told to focus on main

[dull obsidian]

9m

[dim lark]

Tbh when I stopped improving my alts it was so fucking easy to push my main

[dull obsidian]

Damn so I'm omega pumping

[buoyant wagon]

11m if they have above average hands

[cunning mesa]

nobody wants me in their party

[dull obsidian]

I'm doing like 11m at 1580 lvl 9 gems

[supple parrot]

9 sounds low

[left sierra]

Stfu I always ask u but u go with ally except for your sf

😠

[lean pewter]

true

[tulip charm]

i have no idea how much dmg i am doing but i show up so thats enough

[lean pewter]

yumi gatekeeping

[left sierra]

Gangy

[lean pewter]

sup gangy

[supple parrot]

Just go download bible

[cunning mesa]

WDYM I ALWAYS RESERVE CHARS FOR EVERYONE

[rugged lynx]

1560 sorc is closest so that's my first

[left sierra]

Gonna reroll jp and go with hang

[dull obsidian]

@buoyant wagon can you send me what your dmg spread on REblade? I don't have bible

[last light]

Oh! Also, I know a lot of changes have happened over the past couple of months with classes, what are the top dps right now?

[left sierra]

Gang

[rugged lynx]

I could 1580 dead eye but that's

[buoyant wagon]

fairly good players that i know who are minimum 1600 without too much fancy shit like 9/7s do around 11-13m depending on class and rng

[obtuse oyster]

sorc gluck

[last light]

I heard SF and scouter are up there?

[lean pewter]

you promised 2 weeks ago and whenever I ask you "I don't have anymore chars"

[obtuse oyster]

you gonna be fighting all the lvl10s and lvl9 juicers at 1580

[lean pewter]

very sus indeed

[rugged lynx]

how about my dead eye

[buoyant wagon]

i need to see if i still have it

[left sierra]

Sf glavier scooter very broken yes

[cunning mesa]

just ask me later if i didnt fall asleep

[empty sleet]

sf is what again?

[cunning mesa]

im thinking of napping a bit

[obtuse oyster]

Seraph was pumping last akkan

[last light]

robust SF?

[left sierra]

Soulfucker

[buoyant wagon]

RE is so fucking painful on g3 hm though

[empty sleet]

oh right

[lean pewter]

soulfister

[left sierra]

Both r good

[rugged lynx]

Pistoleer?

[dim lark]

I wonder if there is any legit 1600+ with full 10s

[obtuse oyster]

EW

[supple parrot]

Glaiv is broken right now

[last light]

And is that the same case for scouter, both are good?

[rugged lynx]

I'm pistoleer

[dull obsidian]

EO Soulfist is highest ceiling in game but also has 0 fucking paralysis superarmor

[buoyant wagon]

12-14m is already a fucking struggle to output, have even dipped to 11.5 on some pulls

[glad relic]

chat when the servers come up, everybody is going to want to invite my reflux sorc

[empty sleet]

i remember deleting a glaiver

[dull obsidian]

I mean 12-14m on RE blade sounds pretty insane lmao

[rugged lynx]

Get her back

[dull obsidian]

We're getting another 5% too

[obtuse oyster]

pistoleer is good to since the rework

[supple parrot]

EO is nuts right now. But I doubt it’s the highest ceiling

[obtuse oyster]

his pistoleer isn't 1580 yet

[buoyant wagon]

it's a pretty back attack friendly raid but you get cucked by pools if lantern player sucks/team keeps eating attacks

[rugged lynx]

Worth 1580 before ssorc?

[lean pewter]

yes

[obtuse oyster]

yea

[dull obsidian]

Hype 3 EO DOM with KBW no Raid is highest ceiling

[empty sleet]

dont wanna go through that whole process again

[buoyant wagon]

arcana in this chinese group i know does 20m

[rugged lynx]

he's only 1540

[obtuse oyster]

[rugged lynx]

What whole process

[dull obsidian]

I saw some 4 spender WD pulling 26m per second

[buoyant wagon]

granted its with 25 akkan but those numbers are still insane

[empty sleet]

0 ilvl - 1415

[dull obsidian]

hyper specialized party around him tho

[rugged lynx]

what ilvl was she before you deleted her

[empty sleet]

1345

[night badger]

What are the new ilvl reqs for brel?

[dull obsidian]

Is that emperor?

[buoyant wagon]

26-27m at the end of g4 also, can dm you a screenshot

[rugged lynx]

well ok that's pretty bad

[buoyant wagon]

i believe it is emperor, yes.

[left sierra]

@lean pewter let's reroll kr server and do theamine

[obtuse oyster]

damn, he pumping fr

[dull obsidian]

I mean g4 is insane in the bible lmao

[empty sleet]

it was a long time ago ok lol

[lean pewter]

leggo

[rugged lynx]

It's better than 0

[dull obsidian]

how much extra damage that guy taking?

[lean pewter]

we gonna get world first probably

[left sierra]

Easily

[dim lark]

U got like $100k to push for thaemine ?

[empty sleet]

i just remember glaive being fun but zdps so i nuked her lol

[left sierra]

Let's rob a bank and get us both full 25 and Esther 8

[lean pewter]

I have blackmail on chuan

[buoyant wagon]

finishing over 20m in g4 even with damage buff is still very fucking hard

[left sierra]

Oh chuan works too

[buoyant wagon]

because you have to overcompensate for your phase 1 performance

[left sierra]

I'll blackmail megashield

[lean pewter]

sounds good

[left sierra]

[supple parrot]

[cunning mesa]

[dawn yacht]

[supple parrot]

Just gotta hope for juicer group when I do hm

[dawn yacht]

Cope

[supple parrot]

[dull obsidian]

oh they're full dark + atro now in g2

[dawn yacht]

[dull obsidian]

dude that blue GL attack doing 500m

Shield charge ticking 35-40m per crit tick

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/yuuka-explain-gif-4177328825443096175

[heady notch]

U can +25 akkan gear already?

[dull obsidian]

ye?

[heady notch]

Not soft lock at 20?

[dull obsidian]

it just costs you a fortune

[gleaming pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-aegis-murrcord-twitter-persona-gif-20431465

[stark thicket]

[heady notch]

[stark thicket]

cant sleep

[empty sleet]

is there still blackmailing going on here

[lean pewter]

I told you to shoot your mattress, did you do it

[heady notch]

I thought it was a soft lock at 20

[dull obsidian]

do elixiers have some kind of atk/movespeed boost?

[buoyant wagon]

akkan 25 weapon will cost you on average 6m or so gold

[dull obsidian]

I swear even without the supp

[stark thicket]

lf carry

[buoyant wagon]

less if you saved up mats, more if you get unlucky

[heady notch]

Without mats?

[dull obsidian]

they still look so fast lmao

[heady notch]

Oof 6m

[buoyant wagon]

with 0 mats you're probably looking at close to 9m

[empty sleet]

its not 1490 for the whole thing right

[heady notch]

[rugged lynx]

@rigid aurora

[rigid aurora]

wassup

[obtuse oyster]

mno

no*

[empty sleet]

i still think i cant do g4

[buoyant wagon]

which as a result should come to no surprise that pretty much everyone who has 25 weapon is an rmter

[rugged lynx]

I am ready to go 0/8

[obtuse oyster]

basically the 1500 one became 1490

[rigid aurora]

ight

[buoyant wagon]

[empty sleet]

ah

[lean pewter]

are you 100% sure ice

[rigid aurora]

im hoppin go

on

[night badger]

but brel started at 1490 already

[empty sleet]

so i can probably do 1-3 but not 4

[obtuse oyster]

I can't read korean

[left sierra]

Can't wait to pug G4 brel

[night badger]

for g1-2

[dim lark]

I wouldn't trust ice

[rugged lynx]

why not

[obtuse oyster]

idk, god didn't give me the rng to be born in S.Korea

[lean pewter]

because it'd make sense to put whole raid at 1490, like that you have 3 1490 gates and then 30 ilvl leap to g4

[supple parrot]

Wait where u get this from. U got the numbers for how much mat u get?

[left sierra]

Ho much easier is g4 brel now

[hidden jay]

@silver hollow where are you

[rigid aurora]

@rugged lynx gimme your ubisoft username

[rugged lynx]

SightFocus

[empty sleet]

i can probably do g4 if the party gives me time to hone inbetween

[hidden jay]

Get over here and stream thaemine for me

[night badger]

We'll find out once game comes back online

[rugged lynx]

Sorry who is ram

[lean pewter]

if it comes back online*

[left sierra]

Rem

[rugged lynx]

bro deploys a lawnmower

[rigid aurora]

i added u

[empty sleet]

lost ark just gets deleted in this maintenance

[lean pewter]

I knew a guy who was called remtard

[rugged lynx]

invite

[night badger]

Not sure whether the game will apply a DR so you can't start meteor early or will heal up the arena so you can land next meteor

[left sierra]

I miss my taiju scrapper Called tuesday

Or thursday

[lean pewter]

what happened to her?

[left sierra]

Someone blackmailed me

[dull obsidian]

[rigid aurora]

i nivited u linair

[left sierra]

Let's leave it at that

[rigid aurora]

oh ur here

[buoyant wagon]

no, the game can't actually die or else i cant doom anymore

[glad relic]

wow maintenance is 8 hours

[left sierra]

[obtuse oyster]

kr patchnotes

[dull obsidian]

Maint is 8 hours?

[glad relic]

that's what it says

[charred void]

no its not 8 hours

[rugged lynx]

my ears why are you so loud

[empty sleet]

is it scrapper or wardancer thats booba striker

[supple parrot]

Did it say how much mats u will get?

[charred void]

its 8+8 hours

[obtuse oyster]

I don't think they have the gear material changes listed (or if they do it's in korean)

[left sierra]

It's 16grs

[rigid aurora]

you can turn down voice volume

[dull obsidian]

bro I'm about to go play league wtf

[glad relic]

i can't wait until everybody praises me for being reflux

[rugged lynx]

ATTACK

[dull obsidian]

@buoyant wagon are you
RE3
Grudge 3
CD 3
SC 3
AM 3
ADR 2?

[glad relic]

i'mgoing to log in as royalty

[obtuse oyster]

WD

[empty sleet]

praise dn

[buoyant wagon]

yes that's the 5x3+2 build for re

[dull obsidian]

damn you must pump

[glad relic]

i do

[buoyant wagon]

no, this class is actually dog when playing with whales who have hands

[dull obsidian]

what is your average surge?

[empty sleet]

ah

[buoyant wagon]

ever since i installed bible i am more depressed about my class choice

[dull obsidian]

I never see 100m

[buoyant wagon]

in a party?

[dull obsidian]

ye

only time I ever see 100m+ is when I atro

[charred void]

dont worry db gets buffed when they release male deathblade in 2029

[buoyant wagon]

pretty sure i've seen upwards of 120m with dark grenade and support buffs but no atro

[dull obsidian]

holy

[thick pendant]

And now for Everyone that plays this game true favorite game of all time.

https://tenor.com/view/itachi-fortnite-itachi-fortnite-itachi-uchiha-naruto-fortnite-gif-26051391

[dull obsidian]

I think I can hit around 105 if I equip my dmg bracelet

[buoyant wagon]

without full complement of support buffs 100ms

[obtuse oyster]

I got a 100mil today on my red skill on arcana (without atro)

[dense abyss]

8 hour maintainance

[dull obsidian]

I'm just using 7.9% crit rate bracelet

7.9% crit rate too good to give up lmao

[buoyant wagon]

my variance is also very high

since critless bracelet

[dull obsidian]

I think I have a 75.65% crit chance by myself?

in my party I usually have 2.1% crit bracelet on supp and an FI WD

I think I can wear the dmg bracelet

[glad relic]

should i play empress arcana

[rigid aurora]

LOL

[rugged lynx]

WHAT IS THAT

[dull obsidian]

I thought you were a swiftness main

[rigid aurora]

ok so linair

[dull obsidian]

Go emperor

[glad relic]

i am

i am emperor. it is great

[dull obsidian]

then don't play empress

[buoyant wagon]

im at around 61-63% crit in a raid setting on average

[rigid aurora]

for her you have to get as close as possible and melee her so her shield gets tilted

you can shoot her foot during that

[dull obsidian]

[buoyant wagon]

that is with striker and gs in party

[rugged lynx]

bull shit character

[glad relic]

but i want to try out a spec build. since arcana is lower ilvl alt, maybe i can try it

[dull obsidian]

I think I'm around 74?

[glad relic]

what is the best spec build

[dense abyss]

go ahead

[silver hollow]

[glad relic]

is spec jewelry gonna break my wallet

[dull obsidian]

Idk I really want to just giga roll bracelets

just buy 120Spec + Vital/Dex 3 liners and just roll

[glad relic]

i also don't have engravings

[hidden jay]

My thaemine stream

[glad relic]

i changed my mind i'm staying emperor

[supple parrot]

Switch to surge?

[buoyant wagon]

my g3 dps also tanks though because i run around killing tentacles to be a team player

[silver hollow]

oh i forgot about that i fell asleep LOL

[dull obsidian]

if you search market often they can be as low as 12k

[dawn yacht]

its medoo2

[buoyant wagon]

9/7 is on super charge, cant switch

[silver hollow]

where we watching

[glad relic]

the first legendary engraving i got was raid captain.

[supple parrot]

Shouldn’t have cut that stone

[glad relic]

that's how much of a swiftness enjoyer i am !

[silver hollow]

Stfu ken

[dull obsidian]

Just cut another 9/7

[buoyant wagon]

fuck that shit, not another 3.5m+

[dull obsidian]

DUDE

I'm about to fucking swap to RS main

[buoyant wagon]

some people i know spent upwards of 10m

[rugged lynx]

amazing coms yuzu, to my right and I die to my left

[supple parrot]

That’s not even much when u rmt

[dawn yacht]

medoo ded now we got medoo2 from wish

[dull obsidian]

Its actually so fucking disgusting that my RS does like 1.5x the dmg of my RE blade with 2% effort

[silver hollow]

[urban obsidian]

watching saint prog on my tv

[silver hollow]

Mf kae man where is he

[glad relic]

does empress not run spineflower?

[lean pewter]

Medoo from wish is a thing ever since region merge

[glad relic]

is spineflower not a good attack chat

[dull obsidian]

neither use spineflower? wtf

[obtuse oyster]

no

[urban obsidian]

@silver hollow you joining neko on nae js?

[dull obsidian]

spineflower is a pvp skill

[stark thicket]

what u play in jumpstart

[glad relic]

i use spineflower in chaos dungeons and it hits really hard

[buoyant wagon]

RE blade only looks good in the first 30s of dps

[obtuse oyster]

and chaos

[dull obsidian]

[silver hollow]

@urban obsidian huh

[urban obsidian]

It’s our guild brk

[silver hollow]

who tf is neko

[buoyant wagon]

like start of g3 to first stagger mech at 200 bars, i can pull around 22-25m

[dull obsidian]

I just run 8 wealths and pull emperors

[stark thicket]

play nae jumpstart

[dawn yacht]

medoo from wish is a thing like liam the wisher playing the witcher

[silver hollow]

I will XD

[obtuse oyster]

[dull obsidian]

Do you surge at the start of the fight to begin rotation?

[silver hollow]

@hidden jay

[urban obsidian]

It’s our guild neko, and alt guild is mika

[dull obsidian]

Or surge -> awaken - surge

[buoyant wagon]

no, im not sweaty enough to eat stimulants

[stark thicket]

Where is regular medoo.. why do we have wish.com medoo3

[dull obsidian]

I like saving my awakening to surge-awaken-surge during the 160 lasers

[hidden jay]

[silver hollow]

[gleaming pendant]

Just main EO and you will sweat the same ez ez.

[glad relic]

damn empress uses raid captain?

[dull obsidian]

its an option yes

[dawn yacht]

[urban obsidian]

I need servers to not come up early

[buoyant wagon]

standard rotation -> surge -> open

[urban obsidian]

Bc I’m going to practice I’m 2 hours

[buoyant wagon]

open as in dependent on boss moves

[silver hollow]

BAN THIS GUY

[glad relic]

how do arcanas get move speed

[rugged lynx]

did that just get deleted

[stark thicket]

where did medoo message go

[glad relic]

o wait scratch gives move speed

[silver hollow]

[glad relic]

i run that ability on emperor

[stark thicket]

[dull obsidian]

I like to just Axel -> Spincutter x3 -> Maelstrom - Open

[buoyant wagon]

if boss flies far away and i have dash over, i go back to normal rotation

[dull obsidian]

I rarely use my awakening other than to surge twice really fast

[buoyant wagon]

i usually save awakening for a bit in case i get cucked and miss a hit

[dull obsidian]

or if I really fuck up and miss too much

[buoyant wagon]

otherwise i awaken before boss teleports to middle at 200

[heavy oasis]

Getting the pitchforks ready?

[dull obsidian]

I didn't really like doing that

[buoyant wagon]

then use the orb gain from awakening for free surge before boss drs

[glad relic]

if empress uses raid captain maybe i can play empress !!!

[dull obsidian]

oh you do that at 200x?

I do it at 160x where there is big buffs

[buoyant wagon]

well yeah it's free dps uptime

[obtuse oyster]

you can play RC

but I personally recommend the barricade build

[buoyant wagon]

awakening isnt even that much damage anyways

[dull obsidian]

yeh but the follow up surge is good

[glad relic]

i only have 1 prot rune and i have legendary raid captain so i will play that if i decide to try empress

[buoyant wagon]

i mean RE doesnt really care about lining up with buffs that much

it's really just greed uptime as much as possible

[dull obsidian]

I mean ye?

But at 160 there is a lot of buffs

I usually take bottom laser

So I can get to back really fast

Unload everything - Surge - Awakening - Axel - Surge - Unload everything

[cunning mesa]

time to sleep a little

but im still not tired

[rigid aurora]

lol

its kinda funny trolling ppl like that

[buoyant wagon]

no right or wrong way to awakening, personally i think it's better saved to salvage a rotation if you get cucked by boss moving

which happens a lot on RE in g3

[dull obsidian]

yeh its really nice

[silver hollow]

[stark thicket]

can't link the spider I saw in my house.

[dull obsidian]

I either use it at 160x, someone getting grabbed (the last 3 hits usually out of DR), repositioning or if I get fucked o ngauge

[stark thicket]

[silver hollow]

Good cuz no one likes spiders

[rigid aurora]

@rugged lynx whats your actual region

[rugged lynx]

OCE

[rigid aurora]

we can go there after this match

ok

[dull obsidian]

if its really bad I use it for superarmor

[obtuse oyster]

[dull obsidian]

RE awakening is kinda pepega? lmao

Not a dmg awakening gg

Jail free card awakening

[cunning mesa]

[buoyant wagon]

yeah it's not a damage awakening

[dull obsidian]

I actually think

[rugged lynx]

its fine

I got 3 kills its ok

[dull obsidian]

The FI WD in my static pulls like 12-14m per second on g1-3 NM

[rugged lynx]

3 kills and 3 kills only

[dull obsidian]

His uptime is fucking nasty

[rigid aurora]

[dull obsidian]

@quaint lava Wtf did you play MS2?

[buoyant wagon]

yeah those are pretty insane numbers

[rigid aurora]

i feel bad bro

[dull obsidian]

Nvm wrong guy

[dull obsidian]

Umar Laz, lvl 10 gems, positional wardancer

His sweeping kick is like 100-120m on 9-11s cd, FHF is around that on a 4s cd

[buoyant wagon]

i can never outparse equally geared striker with hands

[silver hollow]

DAMN the raid looks like they are playing a different game

[buoyant wagon]

it's actually

[silver hollow]

Gib theamine now

[dull obsidian]

1.0 Cycle Slayers who have hands

[buoyant wagon]

everyone is on predator anyways

i also cant beat those

[dull obsidian]

pred is impossible to beat istfg

[glad relic]

wow empress doesn't use stream of edge. i hate that skill

[dull obsidian]

Unless you heavily outgear/outperform

and even if you outperform they beat you on equal gear

they can unga bunga and then brutal + guillo for 300m

[buoyant wagon]

this class is really just fucking depressing at the high end

[dull obsidian]

dw dude the next 5% saves us fr

[buoyant wagon]

you can output nice numbers but most everything else outputs nicer numbers

[empty sleet]

dont they both use same

[buoyant wagon]

also with less effort

[dull obsidian]

holy shit if they just make fatal wave an actual skill I think our dmg goes up a lot

moonlight sonic I just never use 100%

I only hold it for like 30-50% of the duration if I'm lucky

because blitz rush and SA have so much higher priority

and I need to get to next surge

[empty sleet]

moonlight replaces the skill that allows you to jump over bosses right

[cobalt hazel]

no

[dull obsidian]

no

[rigid aurora]

@rugged lynx

[cobalt hazel]

it replaces wind cut

[rigid aurora]

i feel so bad bro

[dull obsidian]

Windcut = Moonlight Dogshit

[rigid aurora]

these guys are just trying to enjoy a nice night

[empty sleet]

oh i see

does windcut even do anything in terms of gauge

[rugged lynx]

leave some kills for alex

[cobalt hazel]

both deathblade builds are despairge, new players should honestly just stay away from it

[rigid aurora]

ok ok

[rugged lynx]

bro has 0

[rigid aurora]

i'll let u guys do ur thing

[dull obsidian]

surgeblade is fine I think

[cobalt hazel]

wind cut is for surge stacks, not gauge

[dull obsidian]

reblade is true depression because of the effort required

[empty sleet]

ah

[cobalt hazel]

surge is barely fine

heavily backloaded and they gutted lower stack surges

[empty sleet]

i’ve had my surge character for a while, but idk if shes worth keeping lol

[dull obsidian]

I think if surge can go back to 14x they're back to S tier lmao

[empty sleet]

after i get my main up i might just replace my sh and db

[dull obsidian]

I might play surge at that point too

[charred void]

surge db just needs some surgery

[cobalt hazel]

with how strong the top tier classes are right now, and how raids are currently desgined, they should absolutely go back to ~14 stack surge rotation

like, g2 akkan if your dps is high, you get one and a half surges before football lmao

[empty sleet]

wait you only used to need 14?

[dull obsidian]

wow mountaineering almost beat g2?

[stark thicket]

No u

[cobalt hazel]

g2 akkan is actual despair sometimes as surge

[dusty cloak]

how far did they get?

[dull obsidian]

38x

[buoyant wagon]

both are kinda right now compared to other classes

[dusty cloak]

oh

[buoyant wagon]

and how strong ranged hitmaster is in general