general-chat

[jolly marsh]

They sure melted over that one.

[fresh marsh]

I think the real reason I got banned was because a friend and I were messing about and idk he said something so I called him a pervert, it wasn't a big thing, but way later we both got banned after I had written "meow"

[heavy raptor]

Does anyone know when we'll get a 1680 chaos dungeon?

[fresh marsh]

Like, ok

[heavy raptor]

And guardian for that matter?

[wise arrow]

brel

[jagged trail]

They easily get offended over the smallest things

And it's not just eh loa official discord

Pretty sure all official game discords do

[fresh marsh]

Yeah, but they probably also held grudges after we trolled about Baker being the best streamer and one of their blue people responded that it seems like everyone's favorite streamer is baker and they will tell the team 🤣

That blue mod got deleted

[jolly marsh]

Weirdest thing to me on that discord was that there was this one Guy... grinch or something like that that constantly insulted people and apparently was free to do so.

[jagged trail]

Oh I know who you're talking about. But that's like in here

Le zerk yapper

[fresh marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGUmorf8Mjo

[jagged trail]

That came out into my recommendations

[jolly marsh]

Sure was just weird to me that other folks got banned for way less.

[fresh marsh]

Luna got demolished after that xD

AGS killed her

[fresh marsh]

They probably wanted to find any reason to get @obsidian ether and me banned after this

[obsidian ether]

[fresh marsh]

[rain imp]

I think roxx posted something on reddit that they are looking into the punishment again

its gonna be harsher

[torpid oxide]

[misty fractal]

Hello, are strongholds fixed? Or still you can’t log in?

[rain imp]

look at what the exploiter caused, a week delay of ignite, strongholds still locked

I demand a pint of blood and first borns

[terse forge]

is anyone not reciving any answers from the tickets?

[pine granite]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-cinema-suinema-absolute-suinema-hoshimachi-suisei-gif-2071363147000055421

[fresh marsh]

full silence

[rain imp]

@draks its been 3 days for me

[sterile estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-yinlin-anime-mommy-red-hair-sitting-gif-15799971686483475771

And now we wait

[fresh marsh]

that's roxx

[pine granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yinlin-wuwa-wuthering-waves-yinlin-wuwa-gif-854335614388045532

[sterile estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinxi-wuwa-wuwa-jinxi-jinxi-wuwa-gif-6888474920101217135

[pine granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yinlin-wuthering-waves-yinlin-yinlin-burst-yinlin-wuthering-waves-gif-9813986235890664310

[fresh marsh]

berry is a cute

[rain imp]

on some post some guy made about the punishment being too light

[pine granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075026450706599997/1295172526128758865/1.gif

[fresh marsh]

I can't tell if he means "the exploiting wasn't as impactful or effective.."
or if he means "the bans wasn't as impactful or effective .."

[rain imp]

its the bans weren't as impactful

[fresh marsh]

but

"impactful"

[wise arrow]

no.

[hybrid trail]

oh my god i had like 3 trillion purple quest still i didnt do yet, that'll push me to 70 instead of shoving another 20$ ags's ass

[wise arrow]

its the alleged dupe exploit that wasnt as impactful

not the bans

[fresh marsh]

yea u see

now we have one saying this, another saying that

I really can't tell xD

[jolly marsh]

Welcome to the Internet.

[fresh marsh]

this is as clear as any AGS message

[wise arrow]

why would they say bans are not impactful, that makes like 0 sense

[fresh marsh]

yea, but also, why would they say exploit being effective

the wording is awful

[wise arrow]

coz the initial reports said its 1000x worse than the boxes

[fresh marsh]

well, let's hope

[wise arrow]

and apparently it turns out its not as severe as initially thought

[fresh marsh]

or they are trying to hide it

[wise arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/oakdice-runescape-gif-18004007

[jolly marsh]

That one were probably only a very few individuals. But who is to say really tbe impact it had without data.

[sterile estuary]

Imagine AGS fix tomorrow for SH just end up deleting characters in SH altogether

Would be funny

[hybrid trail]

we'd be rolling back for sure this time then 😂

[sterile estuary]

It gonna be a fun day tomorrow for sure

[fresh marsh]

but they don't say anything, and just say they have to delay it

[sterile estuary]

Average AGS response

[dim ocean]

Guess AGS is on discord banning spree? first i got 24hour timeout for saying they dont care, and now after one hour of timeout i got perma banned fomr the official discord ? xD

these dudes on crack?

[sterile estuary]

Yes

Welcome to AGS

[fresh marsh]

that's normal in that discord

[dim ocean]

mate i only typed once since i joined that discord in over 2 years....

😄

[tight violet]

Wait we can't transfer till the 30th

[sterile estuary]

Man, LA community is not having it good.
L after L by AGS

[slow glacier]

amazon replied to my ticket that they moved my character to prideholme, and guess what.. char is still in stronghold and i still dont have access 2 days after

[sterile estuary]

U can't

[dim ocean]

they moved a different one for me too^^

[slow glacier]

i only had 1 tho

and its my main sadly

[pulsar cairn]

Anyone else not being able to play the music to go to their stronghold

[jolly marsh]

Roxx actually doubled down on two separate comments that the gold dupe wasnt impactful.

[rain imp]

@lal you must be out of the loop

theres always one poor soul coming in and being out of the loop for the entire week, but its ok game magazines and articles are picking up on it

[pulsar cairn]

So what's going on

[placid patrol]

I know it's probably been talked about to oblivion already, but this ignite transfer delay literally makes 0 sense.

[covert gyro]

TLDR: massive duplication exploit involving the stronghold so it’s been disabled for now.

#official-updates has more info

[rain imp]

@lal buncha long story short, buncha people exploited stronghold using ignite to legacy server, they getting punishment handed down from bans, permabans, roll backs etc, the stronghold is disabled

[pulsar cairn]

Oh my

[rain imp]

its a pretty big deal

[slow glacier]

delaying ignite transfers meanwhile they release aegir and i wont have access on my main, good job kekw

[sterile estuary]

They have 0 integrity.

Where are updates

Or anything

Bruh

[covert gyro]

It’s only infinite silver, gold, and honing mats

Not a big deal at all

[bitter creek]

bro I havent got anything from them in 2 days KEKW

[rain imp]

Perfect gears, 1700+ roosters

so this is nice for ignite, but wont this give the wrong impressions going into non ignite servers?

opinions?

[slow glacier]

i used chat gpt and contacted them in french, some friends said they got a response so i gave it a shot and it worked, they just never moved my character to prideholme(they did for my friends)

[hybrid trail]

had the same thought teavhing a couple people today

[rain imp]

@needs snacks no, because people at 1640 hits just as hard lol

[hybrid trail]

then again

once they transfer they get +20ilvl and hyper awakening and all that shit

so it probably evens out?

[rain imp]

yah it evens out

fair enough

[spark nymph]

yea I put in the french ticket, we'll see if it works out

[rain imp]

i literally carried a group last night in brel, thaemine and akkan on my 1640 alt

not my main

my ALT

[sterile estuary]

I got banned

Hahahahaha

[marble urchin]

Hi, if I play on the Ignite server, will I get to keep that character and move it to my main server of NAW Thaemine eventually? Don't really get the purpose of the ignite server for recurring players

[hybrid trail]

bro I love shitposting but yours reads way too seriously

[fresh marsh]

yes, you can transfer 1 character

[rain imp]

o hthey are delayin transfers a week anyways, i should read everything before asking questions

[hybrid trail]

i still don't know if you're shitting and just being 17 layers deep into irony or not

[rain imp]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-unfunny-dent-head-gif-20625569

[marble urchin]

Ah I see, do you think it's too late to start an ignite character now? I had no idea we could transfer lol

[sterile estuary]

I had to do that, they literally dodge questions about updates

[wise arrow]

how often do you wanna say "youre out" "im quitting" btw?

[hybrid trail]

nah it's not, you really only need 2 weeks

[sterile estuary]

Roxx came and just said will be fixed after patch

[marble urchin]

Okay sounds good, tyvm

[sterile estuary]

No update on anything

[hybrid trail]

we did 5 raids in total and that was enough to get to 1620

if we finished the 6th we definitely wouldve had it

but we decided to chill and just make 4 alts to ge tthe free 1580 gold chest and call it a day through that 😂

[coarse sinew]

i only started my ignite character like a week ago, you've got plenty of time

[hybrid trail]

just make sure to do ivory g1 and thaemine g1 to get your free 40 set elixirs and free lvl 3 transc on all gear

[rain imp]

mokoko bootcamp, i need new ppl to feed me loot by letting me carry them now

good times had by all

[marble urchin]

How about if I'm just a casual player, and haven't done content past Thaemine before? Would it affect my progression that much? And would it still be worth to make an ignite character then?

[sterile estuary]

How much gold for a buss?

[coarse sinew]

on ignite? carry me

[hybrid trail]

worth anytime for anyone!

[coarse sinew]

lift with your legs, not with your back

[covert gyro]

If you don’t have a full roster of thirty 1620+ characters already, it’s worth to make an ignite character.

[hybrid trail]

while i would recommened AT LEAST finishing g1 to get the free transcendence lvl 3, you can technically just play 3 weeks instead and finish other raids more

[marble urchin]

okok sounds good, thanks all!

[west holly]

Ask if I already have full character slots on my main server and I want to transfer 1620 from the ignite server, will they give me the slot for the new character or should I buy a slot ticket myself?

[jolly marsh]

Even then It is cause free stuff.

[hybrid trail]

but there are enough learning groups, not taking the free transcendence level would be a decent loss

[wise arrow]

youre not getting free character slots, ever

[covert gyro]

Hmm, guess you’d have to delete a character. Or maybe move one to universal storage then swap them.

[hybrid trail]

g1 is enough, you can do g1 easily no worries

[covert gyro]

Idk how their transfer system is going to work yet.

[jolly marsh]

I doubt you will get a free char slot.

[unborn dust]

Anyone else having troubles logging in on a character that’s in stronghold? I have tried reloading lost ark multiple times and it will not load my character in

[marble urchin]

haha hopefully, thanks for the help!

[hybrid trail]

excuse me

[rain imp]

uninstalling

ggs

[covert gyro]

I don’t think you will. But my example was if you had thirty characters. Not sure if they’re gonna use the universal storage system they had for server merges and stuff with this or not.

[covert gyro]

TLDR: dupe exploit so boxes and stronghold are disabled for now. #official-updates for more.

[jolly marsh]

We ran g1 without a sup. Its a freebie Gate, though it is annoying.

[hybrid trail]

i mean it'll probably tell you to make more space, worst case it'll tell you to go either delete a character or buy a character slot

i doubt it'll throw your ignite char into limbo

[unborn dust]

That’s fantastic because the character I need to hone on for aegir is stuck in my stronghold LOL

[rain imp]

are these the nerfs that KR recently got?

[covert gyro]

Should be fixed by reset tomorrow.

[rain imp]

what are people going to name this entire debacle

[covert gyro]

Nerf? Nearly my entire roster got buffs

[rain imp]

IGNITEGATE?

[marble urchin]

okok bet. another question actually, any issues with gatekeeping? or not really? do they provide cards sets and gems?

[wheat dock]

My whole plan went to shit as I’m sure many others did who were relying on ignite server gold for honing to do the new raid now we are going to be behind and can’t do new content for how long because of gatekeepers?

[rain imp]

[covert gyro]

The new pheon gate frfr

[hybrid trail]

man I LOVE being in the western version of the game- the koreans literally always playtest the game for us

[bronze blade]

How do you transfer 1 char from ignite to main server please

[covert gyro]

We don’t know yet

[jolly marsh]

Same. Swiftness enjoyer here.

[blissful spire]

dw its still giga broken in t4

[hybrid trail]

I'd be rich for every time ice wrote that in chat

[bronze blade]

Ok ty

[covert gyro]

Should bet on mizu instead

[west holly]

Thanks for the answers, I'll wait to upload it and when it's my turn to transfer it I'll see what happens if I don't have to delete my lowest character 😦

[covert gyro]

He’s been in here for less time than me but has more messages by a decent margin.

[sterile estuary]

I mean... Swift people are eating good

[hybrid trail]

sometimes it annoys me, but then I remind myself that not everyone keeps checking lost ark related garbage 24/7 on discord and reddit and the news and shit and just play the game

[wheat dock]

Gate keeping on ignite almost non existent, the second they move you over you’re done playing the game as everyone and their mother gatekeeps for no full trans set for raids that don’t need it. Considering they didn’t teach you how to do trans just gave them to you guys I’d suggest learning or you won’t find a party unless you want to spend 8 hours filling a learning party

[jolly marsh]

That is tough to answer for me tbh. I basically have a static and on legacy 307 roster with all (old) cards. So i barely run into pug problems.

[hybrid trail]

honestly ignite will probably be more chill once the vets leave is what i want to say- but I've seen plenty vets teaching

and mokokos aint teachin themselves lmao

[sterile estuary]

Yeah, a lot of vets actually make learning parties

Or join them

There are always few bad apples

But Ignite was really nice experience so far

[marble urchin]

yeah i can see that, unlucky but it is what it is

[hybrid trail]

can't tell, we only played for 2 nights then the ignite was over lmao

[marble urchin]

dang, thats impressive

im roster 121 heh

[covert gyro]

actually wait, reading this literally my entire roster got buffed

[sterile estuary]

Time to make Destroyer

[jolly marsh]

All but my FMH. But that shit is turbo broken.

[arctic cliff]

I am happy as a SE main that plays NE instead of FMH

[sterile estuary]

Glavier Pinnacle

My old main

Hmmm

Maybe gonna go back to that one

[jolly marsh]

I would have gone for NE but i hate the extra thinking i have to do with snatch mode.

[arctic cliff]

i like it lol and i do more dps when i play NE compare to fmh i have both builds set up but i just perform like 1.5x as good on ne compared to fmh.

[sterile estuary]

Swift classes are usually more fun then spec

[vagrant crescent]

hey everyone i'll se you tomorrow during maintenance so we can chat again here xD

[jagged trail]

[jolly marsh]

Been a while since i last tried Ne. But the damage on FMH T skill made me wonder if they ever tested this.

[sonic hound]

hey guys. is the enlightenment point potion from the north kurzan adventure tome only for 1 char that claims it or for every char in the roster?

[sterile estuary]

See u tomorrow when your characters in SH gets deleted

[jagged trail]

Roster

[sterile estuary]

[vagrant crescent]

sadly none is there 😄 i don't need feast like u bozo

[arctic cliff]

the t skill on NE also does pretty good damage when you use it in soul snatch each hit of it does like 80mill for me

and it hits multiple times

[sterile estuary]

I may give a go to Souleater

[jagged trail]

You can fly on SE

[jolly marsh]

Don't know the numbers in higher brackets but my FMH on 1645 does 900 mil-1 bil on one T in burst.

[pine granite]

it doesnt really matter

bc of all the possible differences

ilvl, cards, gems, dd%, quality

etc

[jolly marsh]

Ye ofc

Lots of factors these days.

[jagged trail]

Any 0.06 demon damage players

[vestal prairie]

archdemon u mean

[jolly marsh]

What i can say my Aero is roughly equally geared and T skill is 180-200mil

[jagged trail]

[vestal prairie]

oh she stron stron

my t skill does 315mil avg

drizzle mance

[jolly marsh]

Well ye i Play WF. I heard Drizzle shotgun goes boom.

[vestal prairie]

yeah im undergeared but if I was more invested I'd probably be hitting 800s+

zero transcendence and tier 3 7s still

[wheat dock]

I think the delay will hurt the ignite playerbase more than help. They are already getting bored being refined in a box a majority of new players are mostly done with 1620 on one char if not two. Idk about yall but i feel this opens up the probability of the game getting stale and getting replaced in that time frame as a majority of gamers now switch if they have nothing to do on their current game that excites/interest them.

[hybrid trail]

I think the delay will hurt the ignite playerbase more than help. They are already getting bored being refined in a box a majority of new players are mostly done with 1620 on one char if not two. Idk about yall but i feel this opens up the probability of the game getting stale and getting replaced in that time frame as a majority of gamers now switch if they have nothing to do on their current game that excites/interest them.

[vestal prairie]

not ags's fault; if people didn't exploit it would've probably been on time

[jolly marsh]

Id really love to play drizzle but i hate being a Turtle.

[vestal prairie]

You're not; you identity skill keeps you mobile

[wheat dock]

But it is their fault LMAO. They could easily allow transfers as that system is already built and in place. They just have to enable it. They dont just make allowances and entire transfer systems on a whim at 4 am on wed

[rain imp]

Most actual new or returning ignite players gave up on party finder and went to solo hella quick, nerfing the raids and giving them more time is probably better

[vestal prairie]

People shouldn't have exploited; everything was on time

[jolly marsh]

Not as mobile as id like to be. I have one rule for all my chars: Can it run raid captain?

[vestal prairie]

Raid captain is a dmg thing not a mobility thing

[rain imp]

True, but also they should have tested and there shouldn't have been a fraction of the issues there has been

[wheat dock]

False. They took the last two weeks of critique and slapped a bandaid on a sinking ship. Regardless of Abuse of SH or gold glitch they honestly think adding a mokoko event without adressing the true issue with ignite "Teaching Capability" is going to help.

[wise arrow]

dude, its a week, not a year. actual new players wont give a flying fk as long as the boxes actually work again after reset. only people that burts out in tears over the delay are vets that cry about the 200k gold

[vestal prairie]

I mean we don't know how many people work at ags to suddenly keep things on time; they have to adjust and that's gonna delay something

[jolly marsh]

I know but i want mobiliy without skills. Hence i dont Play Db

[vestal prairie]

they didn't if you remember two weeks ago they did a pre-patch and it was delayed for a while

[wheat dock]

Im not a vet im a returning player. A week is quite a bit to not tuch a game and replace it because theres nothing for you to do.

[vestal prairie]

facts

[rain imp]

Then my suggestion would be to not release half done things in a rush, do it right the first time. Even if it takes longer.

[vestal prairie]

It was right dude why are you like not empathetic at all

It was on time

exploit was not planned

hence the delay

[rain imp]

Theres been like 100 bugs with this

[vestal prairie]

Never

[wheat dock]

^

Wasnt ready at all in the first place

[vestal prairie]

and stoopz made a video on how this is the worst in la history

[rain imp]

Everything was broken, trans, elixirs, raid didn't work, exploits existed

Shoot even the honing nerf was broken

[vestal prairie]

broken? wdym

[drifting barn]

1585+ honing was bugged

[rain imp]

Blue stones were charging the incorrect ammount

Full price vs nerfed for ignite

[vestal prairie]

full price pre-t4?

or post t4?

[dark sable]

chests active for ignite yet?

[rain imp]

Like, tell me you coded something and didn't login to try it once without telling me

[drifting barn]

after maint

[jolly marsh]

Lets not even talk abou the MSQ and on them ever treating Eu fair i gave up.

[drifting barn]

[vestal prairie]

no clue i hit 1620 and never touched the server again

[dark sable]

there's maint atm?

[vestal prairie]

MSQ wasn't an exploit though

[drifting barn]

tmrw/today depending on timezone #official-updates

[jolly marsh]

No but another broken thing.

[rain imp]

Nope just broken and untested, another AGS failure

[vestal prairie]

there's a difference between broken and exploit

exploit is taking advantage while broken means it's not operable

[wheat dock]

All in all i think pushing the transfers back a week is a punishment to new/returning players. Its already stale and new content is wanted. I will be playing another game and honestly doubt ill be back and my crew of 7 will prob be doing the same thing. And we enjoyed this game for once in 2 years.

[vestal prairie]

exploit is like oh hey it's working "the wrong way"

[wise arrow]

cya tomorrow at reset like a good boy

[vestal prairie]

They'll be iight its 1 week

[raw grove]

No it’s really not.They nerfed the raids so they can actually clear them lol. Had they transferred tomorrow they will get gate kept 24/7

[vestal prairie]

if not they'll probably come back idk

[wheat dock]

Reset of what shit that wont be transferred so there is no use in grinding ? Makes sense

[vestal prairie]

[jolly marsh]

Of course but it implies the same Thing. Stuff wasnt ready to be released like that.

[vestal prairie]

agreed

[sterile estuary]

Now u can actually clear G2 Thaemine on Ignite and use free gold and resources for Transc

[rain imp]

AGS spilled some oil everywhere, ignored part of it for a week after it was reported, and has spent the rest of the time trying to clean up the other 85% of the mess. My compassion for releasing untested broken exploitable garbage has run thin.

[raw grove]

This week will be a nice week for beginners to raid. And g3 thaemine will be free

[drifting barn]

g2 thae is clearable what do you mean

[arctic cliff]

well yea fmh does larger big numbers but you do a lot more consistent big numbers on NE imo, like my 3min trixion parse on my 1660 FMH 100 tran is 40 mill, my NE parse is 50 mill same level gems and all that for both

[wheat dock]

They are going to gatekept on echidna anyways , Nothing but full trans lobbys up for HM , Let alone 1-2 x10 title rec for Normal.

[raw grove]

G2 was easy, g3 was the issue

[jolly marsh]

We did that. No supports too

[sterile estuary]

Same

[raw grove]

They can do echidna g1 nm runs then it’s free

[sterile estuary]

It was rought without supports

[vestal prairie]

g3 and 4 will always be an issue

1 and 2 were not issues it was mechanical understanding

[jolly marsh]

Ye stuff you usually face tanked or spacebared hurt. A Lot.

[vestal prairie]

you didn't even need that much dmg

[sterile estuary]

U guys really don't understand how much time u gonna spend in G2 on Ignite

Not even vet players get it first try

[raw grove]

I cleared it on 3 characters …

[sterile estuary]

Because of lack of damage

[drifting barn]

I spent 30 minutes on it what

[wheat dock]

So you're suggesting that gatekeeping will be a problem anyways , Even though your point was 1 more week will aid in the gatekeep. Ignorance man straight ignorance. not to mention the straight up gatekeep regardless of your gear if youre anything under roster lvl 200 LMAO. INSTA DENY

[vestal prairie]

but your misunderstanding

it's not about dmg for g2

it's about mechanic knowledge

[jolly marsh]

We did one shot G2 tbf. But a couple people died.

[rain imp]

I'd say g1 has worse dps check than g2

Especially when u have 0 yrans

[raw grove]

They can learn the mechanics and join prog lobby

[drifting barn]

g1 is even easier than g2

[sterile estuary]

Well... When ur 4 teammates die on bridge run, I call it lack of damage

[vestal prairie]

people failed the counter mech more times then getting to the last bars of g2 like

[sterile estuary]

We were on 18 bars tho

[vestal prairie]

are you not understanding that

[sterile estuary]

[karmic bridge]

This is not necessarily true regarding roster level. It's a combination of a few things, but roster level - is not something many people take a look at. I play with people below that roster all the time and I have 12k hours.

It's usually a combination of low transcedence & gems.

[raw grove]

Yes it is especially behemoth lobby and echidna

[arctic cliff]

lol in all the g2 groups i ran evenm when i joined learnign parties to help i think we only wiped on the counters once

they mostly had problems on run getting shocked and dying there

[sterile estuary]

^

[rain imp]

Donate me a few lvl 10 gems my boi

[sterile estuary]

This

[vestal prairie]

Right but that's not damage dude

[sterile estuary]

Counter is never an issue

[wheat dock]

Remember we are friends lmao , Maybe not on East but on west Roster lvl is one of the main things looked at. If you are under 200 most people insta deny. I know this for a fact.

[vestal prairie]

has nothing to do with damage

raven is saying it's about damage for g2

it's not

[drifting barn]

its not for roster level

[vestal prairie]

[sterile estuary]

No, I said it is about damage when ur teammates die

[jolly marsh]

Unless you have a bard at pos 8

[rain imp]

Under 200 roster denied? That's actually wild gatekeeping

[sterile estuary]

Shush... We did

[raw grove]

Naw roster level is the #1 gate keep by a wide mile it’s not even close. They don’t even look at gems lol. If u see under roster 200 they are full juiced and a friend of someone in lobby

[drifting barn]

low roster usually comes with other more sussy things

naw is a zombie server

[vestal prairie]

everyone's gonna be bias when you are the raid lead

[drifting barn]

and if you get gatekept make your own lobbies

[vestal prairie]

[drifting barn]

its how I deal with it

[raw grove]

Yeah and no one joins

[rain imp]

Make alt, skip to punika, run tower, get roster level, delete, rinse and repeat

No more roster lvl worries

[vestal prairie]

Joeey sometimes making your own lobby isn't the answer either

my advice; make some friends that are decent at the game

[arctic cliff]

find static in discord

[vestal prairie]

spam noted

[raw grove]

Tower is good but it only gives like 2 roster level per character just saying

[jolly marsh]

This argument sometimes works. Not in Guardians though. You better off blindly apllying to +dps groups there. At least time wise.

[wheat dock]

A majority of people new/returning dont want to be slaves to the game for a stat that quite frankly shouldnt dictate competancy

[arctic cliff]

get yourself a friend who has level 1000 big brain and shouts out every single attack pattern in vc

[drifting barn]

I have never made a guardian lobby

[vestal prairie]

fair im suffering in that department frfr

[arctic cliff]

they play the raid entirely by sound cues

[drifting barn]

matchmaking is good enough

[vestal prairie]

debatable

[drifting barn]

I have never had any trouble what can I say

[hybrid trail]

anything below meta raids probably yeah

[drifting barn]

I'm talking about argeos btw

[wheat dock]

whats ur ilvl and Roster lvl :0

[drifting barn]

[bitter creek]

bruh my main still stuck on SH wtf is going on lol

[raw grove]

Lost Ark has the worst matchmaking of any game I’ve seen in the past few years across multiple genre

[arctic cliff]

i used so much knowledge transfers on my alts it really messed up my roster level progression

[jolly marsh]

You tried that on Argeos? I did it once...big mistake. I found all the rats.

[spark helm]

You're not going to get rescued... until tomorrow

[drifting barn]

tried?

[wheat dock]

West argeos matchmaking is fine. Maybe 1 dead lobby in 10

[rain imp]

Oh no I totally agree, just throwing some memeage lame farming method into the chat

[drifting barn]

I do matchmaking every day on argeos

[hybrid trail]

cant complain about argeos mm tbh

not enough people up there yet

so it's fine in general

[raw grove]

They will in 1 week

[jolly marsh]

You have an insane mental fortittude. Cudos to you.

[drifting barn]

1660 120 roster

[hybrid trail]

hey man, glad it works for you

wish we could mm more often

[arctic cliff]

i had like one bad run in argeos a few days ago where we had no supp and one person died 3 times then the entire group except me died with like only 10% hp left and i had to carry them smh

[novel wasp]

I would never accept 1660 with 120 on my raids lol

[raw grove]

U did all ur advance honing to +10?

[drifting barn]

minus 1 piece

transferred it on accident

[vestal prairie]

im broke so yeah i did

[vestal prairie]

same

:Saddies:

[jolly marsh]

Okay i also Run 6 Argeos a day. So thats probably the difference.

[drifting barn]

I wouldn't either

[vestal prairie]

[drifting barn]

its just a different tier of people

people should play with people on their item level/roster/general investment

[raw grove]

Naw is close to gate keep under 300+ ngl idk how east is

[vestal prairie]

time to review lost ark steam charts

[karmic bridge]

@wheat dock It isn't. It's not something the average person looks at. I don't, and the plethora of people I know, don't look at it either.

I don't play on NA West, but I have been told that playing on NAW is like playing with a LAN Party. And if you aren't in the cool kids club, you are essentially denied. I play on NA East, so the culture may be different.

but, if your character profile overall looks nice in terms of Transcedence, gems and cards - there is no logical reason to deny unless you are equipping a title that most people achieved a long time ago.

[drifting barn]

that does expose you more to the rats

[rain imp]

Swiping a card for pixels really gives people some huge ass egos over others, some of these takes r like seek help level

[drifting barn]

I run 2 for now

[vestal prairie]

not gonna lie: gate keeping in behemoth is a bit unreal

I understand echidna HARD but normal echidna is fine to run the raid

[jolly marsh]

EU feels like better be above 200 and then people look at your stuff.

[vestal prairie]

we all have hyper awakening now and 20 free item levels of dmg

[karmic bridge]

Unless your roster level is in the low 100s, I see no reason to deny. I take 150-190s all the time. For all content.

However, if you know the raid, you can always make your own lobby. That is ultimately what I suggest.

[vestal prairie]

I disagree

[drifting barn]

this is how I have always avoided gatekeeping

[hybrid trail]

150+ seems to mean 1-3 chars long time player who's not completely braindead, who either took a couple breaks inbetween or just focuses on 1-3 chars and no horizontals

[arctic cliff]

i have over 3000 hours in the game and i only got to roster 210 just this week, i kted all my alts so it kinda gimped my roster xp

[vestal prairie]

I feel like making your own lobbies is like 40% success rate for hard content i.e hard echidna

[raw grove]

Tbh if I could transfer my roster to nae I would. Naw has 2 big player groups. Time whales/regular whales, and oce players no lifers. 90%+ of runs are HM in echidna and thaemine. Beginners have no business being here

[karmic bridge]

Agree to disagree. I've been through the ups & downs with a degenerate 12k hours.

[vestal prairie]

yeah yeah you have 12k hours

but whats the audience saying

[jolly marsh]

I dont expect the 1660s to Take my 1645 Reaper tbf. But a full 1640 party can stil slay the Dragon in under 4 minutes.

[karmic bridge]

If your character doesn't look like a rat, people will apply. But if it looks like a rat, well rats struggle. It is what it is.

High trans and tier 4 gems shouldn't be a call to action on "fuck this lobby wont apply to it"

[vestal prairie]

Depends

are you on the block list?

what about g4 thaemine

[arctic cliff]

what is a rat though like no trans, like is 110 trans good enough, or do you need 120 max trans etc

[karmic bridge]

Well I do 6 g4 thaemines every 2 weeks since Tier 4 came out. From my personal experience it hasn't been an issue.

[raw grove]

Rats are 50 flowers on naw

[drifting barn]

rats do cp 7

and think its good enough

cp7 or less

[rain imp]

I think we should all just play the game and have fun, nobody cares and your mom is probably disappointed in how much you've swiped. So let's just have fun

[vestal prairie]

you can keep saying from your personal experience like I know that

you've had a great time

[jolly marsh]

Rats have T3 event gems. At least main thing i see.

[karmic bridge]

Full armor should be enough, maybe a sprinkle of weapon (this is what my alts have).

[vestal prairie]

but that's not what im asking;

I'm taking about the joe that takes a bit longer then others to learn the raid and instead of surpassing that limit; he enters someone block list and they never see their lobby

decreasing the odds of getting into g4 as an example

what's gonna happen for aegir normal

[raw grove]

[drifting barn]

aegir normal is free

[raw grove]

Aegir nm g1 looks free, g2 will make the rats sweat

[vestal prairie]

[merry owl]

aegir is as free as advance honing

[vestal prairie]

Right but

[arctic cliff]

well im returning i have full on 4 armor pieces and i didnt realize you could transfer the behe pieces to the armor ones until its to late so i have transc 5 weap with +15 before i did my helm but everything else is at 20 helms at transc 3

[merry owl]

as free as making abidos orehas right now

[vestal prairie]

we're saiyng that from a perspective of raid difficulty

what's gonna happen when players apply

"your hairline is too long; decline"

🐀

[jolly marsh]

Thats perfectly fine.

[rain imp]

All I know is I didn't unlock advance honing before t4, now I'm in t4 gear and I'm in shambles

[merry owl]

is it as free as behemot the "trixion dummy dps"?

[spark helm]

The moment when you contact French side of Amazon to get unjailed from sh. They say they did it and nope.... still jailed.

[hybrid trail]

rapporting a dog- dangerous levels of bestiality in this game

[tight violet]

what

[rain imp]

Don't login to ffxiv

[raw grove]

[tight violet]

how does that translate to that

[arctic cliff]

yea i just dont have behe title so i was having probs getting into parties this week on NAW, but when i finally got in one i mvped in a party with mostly title havers and dps with full trans one dude was even 1680 and i outdpsed him to

[vestal prairie]

yeah but you shouldn't

because the raid difficult NOW is EASYYY

we have hyper awakening and 20 free item levels of dmg

but the raid isn't the problem and its difficulty

it's the players with overspiced expectations

[arctic cliff]

i was 1655 to when i applied

so not just the free 20 ilvls

[vestal prairie]

that's insane to me

[rain imp]

i wanna know how i join parties of ppl with my reflux sorc at 1645, deep dive 24, lvl 7/8 event gems, with other 1640's with better gems and los and i end up doing 28% total damage and swiping MVP

plz explain

[vestal prairie]

Like I get the terrors of the pre t4 but most of the player didn't read the patch notes

we get to experience t skills and ha early

so why aren't we abusing our free dmg on behemoth

why aren't dpsers recognizing support t skills buff dps t skill and ha ??

why aren't we recognizinng thats BILLIONS OF DMG

[jagged trail]

T skills pretty free

[vestal prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/beast-mode-wwe-wwf-wrestling-gif-24090114

if anyone has a brain they would read their T skill, dps or support and should start thinking how it's effective

if your raid leader says at X bar we're all using ha and exploding the boss

that's a sign of freedom

[rain imp]

i press T, it go boom

[jagged trail]

Me and my herd of cows

[vestal prairie]

Also if anyone is confused your T skill is called "Hyper Awakening Technique" so yes it's effected by support T skill

[jagged trail]

https://tenor.com/view/i-loveit-horse-head-thumbs-up-gif-9517002

[arctic cliff]

i rebound t skill to one of my mouse buttons

[rain imp]

i unbound t skill

too many buttons

[vestal prairie]

I almost ragequit from using T because I typically use it to auto walk sometimes

[fresh marsh]

true

[rain imp]

step 1, i press T
step 2, the boss sidesteps 2 inches
step 3, t skill misses
step 4, :depression:

[fresh marsh]

you're forgetting

[vestal prairie]

there's a step for emotional distress?

[hybrid trail]

step 0, play gs with shotgun t

fixed

[fresh marsh]

T skill throws you 200000000 km behind the boss and into the void

[forest totem]

if any luterrans still need this it's up now

[raw grove]

Tth gs to the moon

[rain imp]

you gamers right? learn to adapt

[hybrid trail]

FUCK this quest

and whoever designs these

[vestal prairie]

or watch log horizon

[karmic bridge]

Maybe I am an angel, but I don't really block people if I have issues. I just leave the lobby and move onto the next. But the reality of gatekeeping roster level.. just simply doesn't exist in my anecdotal experience (which is all anyone can speak from) . Unless the roster level is abysmally low.

[rain imp]

where my g3 theamine guide at tho

[vestal prairie]

You're missing the point db

[karmic bridge]

Sorry for the late response, I'm working atm.

[vestal prairie]

Dude your fine im not married to you

[ruby dew]

people are not discussing anymore

how boring

[vestal prairie]

only you can create conversations

[rain imp]

https://tenor.com/view/smokey-only-you-can-prevent-gif-24692534

[ruby dew]

wheres the exploiters x the dumbs

[rain imp]

if you rooster level 50 and you want to join a reclear group i mean why i take you over the guy who has rooster 300+ and lvl 70

[ruby dew]

i need entertainment

[karmic bridge]

The original discussion was gatekeeping roster level. I understand what your saying, but I see no correlation to roster level here.

[rain imp]

more power, faster raid, = more time to raid on alts

[hybrid trail]

goodbye final rapport tokens

[ruby dew]

thats a lot of oil

ngl

[rain imp]

@hybrid trail ever heard ov itameow?

on a real note, im 1645 with 111 roster, i usually stick to applying to group with other 1640's, maybe some 1620's, or host my own groups so i can know sidereal ussage for prog.

im able to get everythign done every week, maybe its a struggle sometimes but you learn to get over it

[vagrant venture]

[fresh marsh]

lol in my 100 i got like 2 flame ones

[ruby dew]

guys i think that

[hybrid trail]

fuck i couldve bought vitameow for that? where? i checked all meerchants

[ruby dew]

on npc at strong, you can trade rapport items

for vitameows

[hybrid trail]

oh

okay, almost thought i couldve traded rapport points directly for that

[rain imp]

@hybrid trail at your stronghold where the pet training npcs are

[hybrid trail]

providence stones i mean

[rain imp]

strongholds dont exist anymore

forgotten feature

[hybrid trail]

TRU

[rain imp]

rip 2022-2024

iam making a killing off these orehas i've been banking

[merry owl]

a yes, the song of "you are not going into aegir day 1 too"

[stark quarry]

is it advisable to do transcendance on the ignite server? like, do more than just unlocking the base 3

is it cheaper or something?

[rain imp]

its literally free

[vestal prairie]

anyone on na east need argeos support

[stark quarry]

wdym free

[vestal prairie]

[rain imp]

cause you can do it on ignite and not use any actual mats from real servers

[raw grove]

Literally free

[stark quarry]

oh, yeah but still need the mats on ignite

[hybrid trail]

i see they fixed the bug

thanks

[stark quarry]

or the gold

[karmic bridge]

Not cheaper. But your gold from ignite doesn't translate to legacy. So whatever gold you have, might as well spend it.

[lyric elk]

no reason not too, since you can't transfer for another week

[stark quarry]

oh true good point

[rain imp]

get your exliers and trans done on ignite

[hybrid trail]

i still can't believe i rolled 3x 5/5 bis elixirs on my ignite alt artist

with every gear piece on 99 quality

like wtf

pls

[vestal prairie]

holy

[rain imp]

why? it'll be my 25th alt and why stress over doing any thaemine over there when i can just bring it over and bus the alt

play on my mains and make gold ez more efficient use of time

[hybrid trail]

also can we quickly talk about how they start maintenance 2 hours later than usual

so my usual afternoon loa session is gone until the evening

they start at 9 in the morning usually now postponed to start at 11 + 6 hours like half of the day

roxx pls

[rain imp]

@hybrid trail are you eu?

[hybrid trail]

ye

[rain imp]

oh that sucks for you then need to come to u.s it'll be sleepy time for me and when i wake up game is on

[hybrid trail]

'merica

[rain imp]

we have better flavorful food than your fish and chips

Jolly youtube proved this by having ribs for the first time

[hybrid trail]

my wife's family migrated to germany because of the poisonous american food 😂

but we'll be visiting minnesota next year

cant wait to eat some cancerous unhealthy american borgers

[rain imp]

@hybrid trail theres your problem, you think we eat "Burgers"

[hybrid trail]

i need to see the land of the free and fat

[jagged trail]

double angus

[hybrid trail]

imma eat some fried chicken

maybe some fried watermelone

[tardy wigeon]

i hva a question

[hybrid trail]

yes you'll be banned

shouldn't have done it

[tardy wigeon]

what do you do in ignite server if youve reached 1620

[rain imp]

transcedence, elixer and wait

[jagged trail]

you do whatever you need to get the most out of it

[tardy wigeon]

i see

[hybrid trail]

vacation

[vagrant venture]

[hybrid trail]

[jagged trail]

horizontal contents

etc

[rain imp]

what cost us thousands of gold million

cost you like, chinese yuan

[real flame]

Anyone interest to play hanumatan trial??

[hybrid trail]

racist comment

[tardy wigeon]

too scared to do thaemine with not enough kwnoledge

[rain imp]

how is that racist?

[hybrid trail]

🇺🇸

[rain imp]

Chinese yuan is the currency you dimbledore

[tardy wigeon]

and theres no soloing option for thaemine

[hybrid trail]

🫡

[vagrant venture]

[jagged trail]

Oh, that's actually hilarious. Was alt tabbing and LOA crashed

[rain imp]

@tardy wigeon start a learning party? or find one?

[rigid hare]

are SH characters still bugged? 😮

[tardy wigeon]

i tried but it seems like everyone wants hw party

[jagged trail]

Not bugged

[rain imp]

@rigid hare yes

[jagged trail]

Stuck

Send a ticket if you need to unjail it

[vagrant venture]

where is artist nerf ?

[jagged trail]

You wish

[vagrant venture]

i pray everday for it

[jagged trail]

[vagrant venture]

[karmic bridge]

There's a guy on youtube who quit his NAW roster that he has a lot of hours in, went to NAE and has a much better time. Ignite would probably be your best bet if you go that route.

[hybrid trail]

that's a guardian and a chaos dungeon away from lvl 70 right?

[karmic bridge]

Yeah something like that.

[restive otter]

are the servers acting up?

[restive otter]

unrested chaos is 7m, rested is 14m

[final oyster]

After the patch can we go to our strongholds?

[karmic bridge]

Yes

[restive otter]

should be able to yes

[final oyster]

Ok cool

[restive otter]

no feast on aegir prog would be crazy

[final oyster]

Ye xD

[hybrid trail]

hella confused rn- i thought above 20 rest gauage it's consuming 20- is it now, or is it not? because i did chug a potion today to be at 50 and it did deduct 20, but I'm pretty sure i didnt get more than 7-8mil exp

now i feel like i remember it being 100 or smth?

[tight violet]

it consumes 40 with t4 chaos

[restive otter]

new kurzan front takes 40

[hybrid trail]

🤔

[restive otter]

because you do it once a day (consumes 100 aura instead of the old 50 )

so it makes since that it takes double rest bonus yk

[hybrid trail]

ah that was the 100 number i was thinking then

but weird, i should be at 10 rest then if it consumes 40

could've sworn i was at 50 and now at 30

[vagrant venture]

need my 200k gold

[digital widget]

[restive otter]

oct 30 bozo

I knew they were gonna delay it the second they locked sh

[distant heron]

Slayer getting buff will this put her on par with serk?

[vagrant venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033053449891364924/1080623701957017620/AgnisKokFireplace.gif

[restive otter]

NE buff with aegir

[vagrant venture]

nerf NE pls

[distant heron]

they nerfed breaker

[digital widget]

buff berserker

[vagrant venture]

nerf bersi pls

[tight violet]

oh np

[distant heron]

they buffed aeromancer

[tight violet]

my punch is gonna do 1.1bil instead of 1.2

[vagrant venture]

[tight violet]

or was it burger king they nerfed

[distant heron]

lmao se got nerfed

[vagrant venture]

mage nerf

im happy

[lethal wolf]

guys

where do i find email from support

[tight violet]

in your email you used to make your amazon account with

[restive otter]

fmh? yes

[distant heron]

yea

why do no one play summoner?

[restive otter]

it was needed

[restive otter]

some people play her

no reason really

look at soulfist

she's really strong, always was strong

rarerst class in the game

[rain imp]

i play soulfist

[distant heron]

deadeye got buffed big

[vagrant venture]

summoner

[distant heron]

Kinda have my roster
-scraper
-shadowhunter
-gunslinger
-reaper

[distant heron]

aeromancer

and prob slayer

glaiver got some buffs

[restive otter]

Mine:
-SE
-SE
-SE
-SE
-Wardancer
-Soulfist
am I cooked?

[vagrant venture]

as i said

nerf SE

[distant heron]

why se lmao

she cant be that fun

[vagrant venture]

i did on ignite

she is rly nice

[restive otter]

she got nerfed and buffed on diff engravings

[restive otter]

I enjoy her the most

I had 6 dps roster of diff classes but I got bored from all except SE

the moment I finish SE raids the fun is gone

[barren cedar]

I wanted switch to FHM recently, but after the balance patch gonna stick to my NE SE

[pine granite]

why

[restive otter]

rule 1 of lost ark

enjoy gayme

[pine granite]

it was a barely noticable damage nerf

[restive otter]

[vagrant venture]

@pine granite

[hushed comet]

can i transcend more than lvl 4 in ignite server

[pine granite]

@vagrant venture

[lyric elk]

yes

[restive otter]

u can swap if u want to, fmh is most likely still the stronger option

[tight violet]

clear g2 theamine

[restive otter]

but u can't trust korean parses for nothing

[pine granite]

im gonna stick with ne for now- more enjoyable

[restive otter]

WAY more enjoyable

fmh is hell

[barren cedar]

I hav skill issue always miss gullotine

[pine granite]

but it's harder to hit on fmh

?

[tight violet]

[pine granite]

classic chelper

[restive otter]

u just gotta get used to it

[tight violet]

you my guillotine on ne?

[restive otter]

depends on raid knowledge on when to place it

[tight violet]

miss*

[restive otter]

he meant fmh guys cmon

[tight violet]

ir wait

[restive otter]

ain't no way he misses on NE

[hushed comet]

do i need to do g3 aswell

[tight violet]

he doesnt mean ne does he

[tight violet]

yes for lvl 7

[restive otter]

g3 is for level 7

[barren cedar]

Gullotine miss while plying NE still bearable? Perhaps

[pine granite]

how do you miss guilo on ne

it's harder to hit on fmh

[barren cedar]

I hav skill issue

[tight violet]

what

[pine granite]

press it later then

[tight violet]

[pine granite]

or better yet just use scaffold tripod

youre not locked into the build tripods

it's just weaker for ne

but missing guillo is weaker than scaffold

[honest blaze]

Players that opened 15+ chests will receive a notice that they have received a 30-day suspension```
why ppl with 8-14 chests opened get 31 days and ppl with 15+ opened only 30?

[restive otter]

15+ might be perma

[vestal prairie]

they get more than that though

[restive otter]

30 day is just the start of their hell

[vestal prairie]

you gotta snipet the rest

[honest blaze]

my point is, why ags said 1-month and 30-days instead of saying 1-month twice

[pine granite]

dawg.

1 month is 30 days

[karmic bridge]

no it isnt

[honest blaze]

ofc not

[pine granite]

it is when you average it

[honest blaze]

technically 1month is 29.5 days

[karmic bridge]

no sir

october is 31 days

get it right

[pine granite]

which rounds up to 30

[vestal prairie]

[honest blaze]

wdym rounds up

why would u round up

[karmic bridge]

xdding

[pine granite]

because they arent going to ban you for half a day

[honest blaze]

why wouldnt we round up 14day ban to 30 day ban too

[pine granite]

technically 1 month is 28 days

because it's 4 weeks

but it isnt in reality

[barren cedar]

Ags shud just say ban for 720hours in this case

[honest blaze]

yeah

[karmic bridge]

no it isnt

what the

[pine granite]

do not say bc oct is 31 days

[honest blaze]

so since its october, we can assume 1month is 31days

[pine granite]

I mean

they said when the ban ends

[karmic bridge]

november is 30 days

[pine granite]

from if you look at people who were banned

[honest blaze]

then why ppl with less boxes opened gets 1more day of ban?

;D

[pine granite]

ok ok ok ok scalp how many weeks are in a month

[honest blaze]

4.4

[pine granite]

let me be more specific then

how many completed weeks are in a month

[honest blaze]

how many full hours are in day?

[hybrid trail]

about three fiddy

[pine granite]

two wenty four

[honest blaze]

no like

not the full full day like day

[pine granite]

[honest blaze]

but when theres sunlight

[honest blaze]

propably 3

[pine granite]

it's 4

[vestal prairie]

It's nice i get two days off work for patch notes and gaming

[honest blaze]

because sometimes month starts with wednesday and u dont complete full week

[scarlet grotto]

lowest iq "discussion" ive ever seen

[hybrid trail]

average american discussion

[pine granite]

a full week is 7 days

[honest blaze]

excuseme

[pine granite]

it doesnt matter if it starts on monday or not

[honest blaze]

full week starts with sunday

[karmic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-cat-wizard-gif-2169800072137285708

[pine granite]

...

[honest blaze]

its like saying full week is 7 days, but it doesnt mean that only counts wednesdays

[karmic bridge]

y u so dum

[barren cedar]

Just break it down into sec, it more precise 1 week has 604800 sec

[honest blaze]

by default week is time unit that counts all 7 different days in particular order, starting with sunday for NA and starting with monday for EU, right ?

[pine granite]

scalp release a tfm guide on oct 30th

[karmic bridge]

release dn

ty

[pine granite]

alr

[pine granite]

no

[honest blaze]

so

[pine granite]

it's any order

it's just 7 complete days

starting any day

[honest blaze]

if i say "in a week" can it be same as "on 7th wednesday" ?

[pine granite]

no

[honest blaze]

why not

[pine granite]

because that would imply 7 wednesdays after

[honest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

😄

[pine granite]

because saying "on the 7th wednesday" is 7 wednesdays after

[honest blaze]

weeks u mean

7 weeks

[pine granite]

7 weeks is 7 wednesdays

[honest blaze]

no

yes

but 7.5 weeks

can be 7 wednesdays

but can also be 8

[hybrid trail]

weirdest shitposting I've seen in some time

🔞

[honest blaze]

yea im bored sry ;D

[pine granite]

tldr a month is 4 complete weeks

i.e. 28 days

[honest blaze]

u cant say like that

[tight violet]

are you still yapping about how many weeks are in a month

[pine granite]

that is the literal definition

[honest blaze]

month contains 4 complete weeks

month ISNT 4 weeks

[scarlet grotto]

sourcE? XD

[pine granite]

do you need a source for there being 60 seconds in a minute too

[honest blaze]

but its like saying that 1 minute is 55 seconds

1 minute contains 55 seconds

but it isnt 55 seconds

[hybrid trail]

going to bed without prepping stronghold

[pine granite]

no...

[soft herald]

[honest blaze]

yes...

[soft herald]

and i cant see the guest book update

[scarlet grotto]

: a measure of time corresponding nearly to the period of the moon's revolution and amounting to approximately 4 weeks or 30 days or ¹/₁₂ of a year
key word: approximately

[soft herald]

https://tenor.com/view/sloth-hammock-relaxed-gif-13190833

[pine granite]

which is 4 complete weeks yes

[honest blaze]

contains

we cant equalize these 2 units. month always has 4 weeks but month is not equal to 4 weeks

[rain imp]

WTF is going on in here

[karmic bridge]

its over boys

[scarlet grotto]

oct. 1st:
"see u in 1 month bro"
"ok bro"
oct. 29:
"where r u bro?"

nov. 1st:

"where r u bro?"

according to you they should have met on the 29th instead of nov 1st

[pine granite]

if you said see you in 1 month on the 1st

then most people would expect you on the 1st

[honest blaze]

and you would be in 4 weeks

;D

[pine granite]

a month is 28 complete days / 4 complete weeks + a few days

[honest blaze]

that was my whole point

[scarlet grotto]

so you were wrong

:-D

[pine granite]

no?

I never said it was absolutely 28 days

just 4 complete weeks

not once did I insinuate that it could not contain an incomplete week

[placid patrol]

8.33% of the time it contains exactly 28 days

[safe mica]

people just like arguing over anything these days

[jolly marsh]

Unless...

[placid patrol]

I noticed it the moment I hit send

6.25% of the time

[pine granite]

i.e. not exactly

[honest blaze]

is

[pine granite]

❓

[rain imp]

I'm losing braincells

Plz stop

[pine granite]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-cinema-suinema-absolute-suinema-hoshimachi-suisei-gif-2071363147000055421

but it's fun to argue with randos

[rain imp]

Fair enough

[pine granite]

pick the side they arent on

it passes the time

[honest blaze]

indeed

its even more fun if i know im right and u trying to prove sth else

;D

[restive otter]

nah berry is right

[honest blaze]

nah

;D

berry is on my left

[rain imp]

A month is now 47.8 days long

Why? Cause I said so

[lunar jay]

what's the gold difference between theam and echi?

should we drop theam?

[restive otter]

me answer during physics exam

[honest blaze]

thaem is better only with g4

[restive otter]

ig g4 do thaemine, no g4 do echidna

regardless your ass is doing echidna anyway

gold or no gold

for t4 mats

[jolly marsh]

Now do the calculation where we skip leap years😆

[pine granite]

aegir behe echidna and thae instead of behe for g4 weeks afaik

[honest blaze]

but if im not mistaken 1-3 thaem = 1-2 echidna

in terms of gold

but echidna gives t4 mats

[pine granite]

you dont drop echidna

[honest blaze]

but thaemine allows u for g4 for extra 21k

[pine granite]

once every 2 weeks

[honest blaze]

and behemoth is 18k so u drop behemoth ig

however its t4 mats

idk man

im so lost

[restive otter]

do all baka

[pine granite]

yes you drop behe for thae when it's g4

[rain imp]

Run whatever makes you happy

[honest blaze]

i want to do raids when it was simple

valtan vykas kakul

then vykas kakul brel

then kakul brel kayangel

[jolly marsh]

I dont bother with g4. Theres only so much time i have and want to Invest. Did the same with Brel back then and im doing fine.

[restive otter]

bring back kakul 2.0

please sg

[pine granite]

it still is

[honest blaze]

oh yeah we need kakul hm achievement

[rain imp]

I wish more groups did brel g4, especially hm, I want my pet

[pine granite]

thae just gives slightly more gold on g4 weeks

[honest blaze]

its not, u gotta sacrifice something