Snake, how do i add segments?

[random wasp]

oh ok

[wooden maple]

A signal tutorial will help you

[random wasp]

i think i should watch one and then get back?

[wooden maple]

But honestly, the growth delay doesn't seem like a big deal

[random wasp]

hmm

[wooden maple]

The signal thing is just to fix the growth delay

[random wasp]

well if youre really big it kinda is

[wooden maple]

Oh wait, that's the problem you were describing in the first place llmao

[random wasp]

nonono

two problems

one i dont really care actually

and one its kinda important

first one is the little extra time it takes for a segment to die, which i dont care

and the other is the long time it takes for the new segment to appear if youre big

[wooden maple]

Because eating the apple increases the score, which only increases time on the death timer of the newly spawned segments, yes?

[random wasp]

uhm

no

[wooden maple]

elaborate

[random wasp]

it because

suppose

you eat an apple at 10, 10

a segment is spawned at 10, 10

that segment will only be visible when theres NOT another segment at 10, 10

which takes a while if youre big

[wooden maple]

The segment at 10,10 will be visible when there's not a segment at 10,10

?

Oh

Let me ask this

You eat the apple at 10, 10

Do 30 frames pass between then and when you create a new segment?

[random wasp]

sorry the 30 frames is just an imaginary number for example?

[wooden maple]

yeah, that's like, movespeed

[random wasp]

ok, no, when you eat the apple the new segment gets created instantly

oh i saw the problem wrongly

you saw it correctly

[wooden maple]

Yeah, there's no reason to do that

Just only create segments when you move

So that there aren't overlapping segments in the first place

[random wasp]

yes

[wooden maple]

yeyeyeyeyeyey

[random wasp]

yes there arent*]

[wooden maple]

:o

[random wasp]

so instead of changing death timer for the next segment it should change for all the segments death timers?

[wooden maple]

I don't understand what the problem is anymore

[random wasp]

arrgh

is there a built in windows screen recorder?

dont wanna download obs

[wooden maple]

iunno

I just use obs lol

Describe everything that happens in steps

you move, you eat the apple

then what

[random wasp]

ok

lets say you only move in 1 dimention so its easier to visualize

lets say you also need 1 second to move

[wooden maple]

k

[random wasp]

lets say youre at 5 (position in 1d space)

apple at 10

[wooden maple]

yeah

[random wasp]

you have score 5 which means theres 5 segments + the head

[wooden maple]

each segment's timer is set to 5 seconds when it spawns

ye?

[random wasp]

last segment at 0 and you at 5

[random wasp]

yaeh move timer * segments

[wooden maple]

okedoke

[random wasp]

you move to six

all the segments lose 1 second of their life

segment at 0 dies

that continues, when you eat the apple instead of having 5 segments you have 6

[wooden maple]

????

[random wasp]

everytime you eat an apple you grow

[wooden maple]

Where do you grow

[random wasp]

well yeah thats fair

should be using technical talk

[wooden maple]

nonono go back to 9

[random wasp]

okay

[wooden maple]

the head is at 9

[random wasp]

yes

[wooden maple]

segments on 8,7,6,5,4

[random wasp]

yep

[wooden maple]

continue

[random wasp]

okay

so you eat the apple :o

[wooden maple]

you move

then eat the apple

[random wasp]

so theres a segment at 9,8,7,6,5

and the head at 10

[wooden maple]

ye

[random wasp]

then the head moves again, to 11, but instead of making all the segments 9,8,7,6,5 gain +1 seconds on their life only the segment created on 10 has +1 second, so in the same tick segment at 5 dies instead of living for 1 more second

[wooden maple]

So you have segments on 10,9,8,7,6

[random wasp]

yes

and you still visualy have 5 segments

BUT

the times look like this:
10: 6
9: 4
8: 3
7: 2
6: 1
5: dead

so you visually have 5 segments

next tick:
11: 6
10: 5
9: 3
8: 2
7: 1
6: dead
still visually 5 segments

12: 6
11: 5
10: 4
9: 2
8: 1
7: dead
5 visual segments

13: 6
12: 5
11: 4
10: 3
9: 1
8: dead
5 visual segments

14: 6
13: 5
12: 4
11: 3
10: 2
9: dead
5 visual segments

only NOW

15: 6
14: 5
13: 4
12: 3
11: 2
10: 1
now theres 6 visual segments

[wooden maple]

yeah, makes sense

[random wasp]

it took x seconds for x ammount of segments for it to make a visual difference

[wooden maple]

Not a glitch, but I can see how that might be undesirable

[random wasp]

yes, not a glitch

understanding the error fully now makes it more easibly understandable

[wooden maple]

Show me where you're increasing the score

[random wasp]

still dont quite know how to fix

[random wasp]

function called eaten_apple

on head.gd

[wooden maple]

Perfect, that makes this easier

[random wasp]

oh i think we didnt talk about that call deferred right?

[wooden maple]

lol what is call_deferred

[random wasp]

used a little bit of chat gpt, for some reason the function add segment and start death timer werent working inside the function eaten apple

call deferred makes x function execute instantly when declared

[random wasp]

i just realised that happened because the functions werent declared when eaten apple is ran, probably

[wooden maple]

That's how functions usually work

Oh

Depends on how you're using declared

I forget what that means in coding

[random wasp]

fixed it lol

[wooden maple]

This is wild because your start death timer function should be causing errors

[random wasp]

add segment and start death timer where below eaten apple

i dont think so

[wooden maple]

Oh, cause you're declaring segment at the top?

[random wasp]

i am

[wooden maple]

okedoke

[random wasp]

uhmm

logically something like

you add 1 second to all the segment timers when you eat an apple

[wooden maple]

Ok, so timers and buttons both use signals

You have a timer, it goes off, it sends a signal to the thing it's attached to to do something

You have a button, player clicks it, it sends a signal to whatever it should to do some stuff

[random wasp]

maybe like this?

[wooden maple]

You should not add a segment when you eat an apple

[wooden maple]

You add segments when you move

You might also just put _start_death_timer() inside _add_segment()

[wooden maple]

because you start the death timer when you add the segment

[random wasp]

ok got overwhelmed

first thing

remembered why i used call deferred

because this error shows up otherwise: (although it still works)

secondly eating apple should just change the death timer if i understood it?

[wooden maple]

Yeah, with a signal, but we're not quite there yet

[random wasp]

wanna see the codes?

[wooden maple]

Cause you should delete lines 25 and 26 prolly

[wooden maple]

Ye sure

[wooden maple]

Ok cool, probably purge 25 and 26 from the face of this earth

Then watch a tutorial on signals

I think the gist is that you create a signal at the top,
connect the signal to each segment you create,
write a function inside segment to add time to it's death timer
signal_name.emit() inside _apple_eaten()

I don't remember how to connect signals

But the tutorial will prolly tell you all about it

[random wasp]

ok, wanna continue tomorrow?

[wooden maple]

You should be good from here

There's a p good main menu tutorial I can send

[random wasp]

k, getting kinda sleepy now

[wooden maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx3iyz8AUAE

ok nigh nigh

[random wasp]

GINORMOUS GIGANTIC BIG STRONDOWS EPILEPTIC thank you, bro you putting so many lumps in my smooth brain

[wooden maple]

yah

[random wasp]

im remaking the game and its now so much clearer

so much cleaner

[random wasp]

@wooden maple BROOOO I MAY ACTUALLY HAVE DONE IT DID DADTADDI DONT KNOW GRAMMAR

the visual ammount of segments get changed the next tick after eating an apple, i even felt a cool in my body when i did it, it does though kinda glitch after but stabilizes im gonna record a video and show

[wooden maple]

Congrats man!

make sure to mark this post as solved

[random wasp]

not solved

have you not seen the video?

[random wasp]

@wooden maple please i have no idea why this is happening

[wooden maple]

Oh my bad

[random wasp]

help please 😭

[random wasp]

ARHH I THINK ID IDIDID IT

i aisdoasd cant even describe how, i put the death_timer definitions and changes all of them inside segment.gd instead of the head.gd

i think, its the last step

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