Honk of Heroes (Multiplayer Goose Game)

[tight escarp]

Hello, I'm the creator of Honk of Heroes.
The gameplay is simply a dungeon where you'd need 3 specific roles Tank, Healer and DPS.
Each role is going to be equally important.
The bosses are going to have unique tactics and you have to work in a team to beat them.

Hopefully Godot 4.1's multiplayer capabilities can get me far. 😅
I'm going to update this post when I have something new to showcase.

[old girder]

Instead of a chat you could allow just different kinds of honks, hahaha, like: honk, HONK, honk?, hoooonk

It would be fun see how players would plan their actions like that

[tight escarp]

Haha I was thinking about that too. Since making a safe multiplayer game could prove difficult.

[hard folio]

Do you have any links for this? I have to explain myself

[tight escarp]

haha I have a discord server and a twitter but no Steam links yet!

I hope this is enough 😅 please be safe

[somber coral]

looks fun

[keen spindle]

I am loving the art style 🙂

[tight escarp]

Hey thanks guys 🙂

[manic rivet]

🤩

[magic thorn]

I need this

[tight escarp]

Working on it 😄

[umbral radish]

Looks cute ❤️

[gray cosmos]

The synchronicity is weird, I was talking the whole week how I want to get a goose irl, now this. They snap at your butt so I'm rethinking atm. Game looks fun too👍

[slim meadow]

this looks awesome

[tight escarp]

Some combat with the pals

[magic thorn]

I love how it looks like you just removed the bones from the goblin when it dies

It's just a puddle of golbin

[tight escarp]

best type of goblin, puddle goblin

[dense basin]

do you use open source spritesheet for the goose and weapons?

[tight escarp]

nope, I made them

[kind sphinx]

There aren't really any freely available art of that quality. Sometimes the technical quality can be high (Kenney, Lou Karlsberg etc) but it can't have this much personality

By virtue of being made for unknown uses

These are great!

The squash has excellent timing too

[magic thorn]

I just noticed, is this an autoattacking game? Like vampire survivors inspired?

[tight escarp]

Nope. You gotta chose your spell and confirm the direction of casting

[safe gust]

ir looks great, but can u share with me how did u make it multyplayer i am trying to do that for 5 mouunghts

[kind sphinx]

Do not ask specific people for help. Ask your question in the help channels, and people might answer if they can.
You probably want to reduce your question a lot, because this is too vague

[merry dune]

You: Honk!
Everyone else: ???
xD

[tight escarp]

The game is running with steam lobbies 👀 👀

[tight escarp]

Made some heals + buffs.

[wicked mulch]

This is kind of amazing

[vital haven]

This is actually so cool dude

[tight escarp]

Hey thanks guys ❤️

[serene elk]

You could make it so that, instead of text messages, you can only honk at different levels of intensity

Like "honk?"

"HONK!!!"

And my favourite:

"honk honk"

[old girder]

Honk!

[frosty lotus]

honk

[safe gust]

hey the game looks great but do u mind me asking how did you add multyplayer

[frosty lotus]

there are some amazing tutorials over on youtube & articles

[safe gust]

yes but i tryed everything and i wana see how you did it thats why

[tight escarp]

haha I've thought about it... this would make or break the game for sure!

[tight escarp]

Multiplayer can be super tricky, sadly Godot doesn't have 'out of the box solution' for the long run, but it's still possible!
Here's the video that started me off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0JLO_5UgQo&list=LL&index=2&t=2s

And later on I had to recompile Godot with GodotSteam and it's multiplayer/alpha branch that you can find here:
https://github.com/CoaguCo-Industries/GodotSteam/tree/multiplayer/alpha

And then you can use Steam's p2p to connect people.

[tight escarp]

Honk of Heroes (Multiplayer Goose Game)

[turbid lion]

is it a goose or a duck

[frosty lotus]

thats a duck

a very smooth one

[turbid lion]

🫡

[tight escarp]

Some movement & auto-attacking

[quiet hill]

i love this art style

[safe gust]

same

[tight escarp]

Happy New Year, hope you all get some coins!

[still arch]

Honk honk

[raw jungle]

honk, honk... honk

[old girder]

Hoonk

[hushed parcel]

Hoooooooooonk? Honkhonk

[leaden horizon]

just got here this is amazing lmao

[tight escarp]

Let's gooo honkers

🪿

💪

Blub blub

[leaden horizon]

Instead of text entering you should have a Honk Wheel™️

[tight escarp]

Select from Honk, honky, honka and many more diverse honks!

[hushed parcel]

Maybe with some emojis if you want so people have some ideas of what to use that type of honk for

[old girder]

Bluub

[tight escarp]

I do like goose emojis 🪿

[leaden horizon]

sorry i'm sure you already have a billion suggestions, Untitled Goose Game is just hilarious and I want to see your game be better 🙏

[twilit heart]

This is so freaking cute

[tight escarp]

Oh no worries I was just being goofy. I do like the idea and it sounds like fun 😊

[tight escarp]

No u

[tight escarp]

Do we like a goose with outlines?

[leaden horizon]

i think the no-outline is more stylized but in a multiplayer ARPG i think the outline "is better" for visibility

(i like it)

[robust flax]

Yeah, outline is better for the game.

[umbral radish]

I choose no outline

[tight escarp]

The outlines do help highlight the character and it's easier for a none-artist like myself 😅

[hushed parcel]

Outline

Wait when did your honky honky get outside lol
Didnt notice

[tight escarp]

Just trying out technique. 🫣

[midnight fable]

Idk if this fits the style but I myself use broken outlines sometimes which also works for visibility

[tight escarp]

Yeah the visibility factor is what makes it attractive for me :d

Customization is here! 👒 👕

[midnight fable]

@tight escarp with broken outlines i mean like this. Like how i used black, broken outlines for seperating the background with player, but still keeping a style. Tho idk if it fits for your game. You could also try adding a light source or something from your goose to give the goose a more special aura that seperates the goose more (a lot of games do this instead)

[leaden horizon]

THAT IS AMAZING

[hushed parcel]

Bruh ur doing ur game very fast

I should do my game that fast

[tight escarp]

yeah I understand, It's not really what I'm going for.
I think full outlines give it more silly style 🙂

[tight escarp]

ty!

[tight escarp]

I'm focusing on the fluff, so it's the easier part to showcase. Don't feel bad 😊

[hushed parcel]

How long have you developed this game

[tight escarp]

at least 4 months.

[hushed parcel]

Ur still faster than me lol
I am doing a duck game and it's like 1 year old
Maybe becuz of times when i was gaming

[tight escarp]

Maybe goose games are just easier to make 😉

[hushed parcel]

Lol

[hushed parcel]

Btw I started recreating the multiplayer

Of my game

Couldnt do a lot
I just tried recreating the multiplayer spawner and syncer nodes from gd4 to gd3

Not even halfway done

[tight escarp]

that's game dev, things take time ;d

[hushed parcel]

Ok lol

[elfin kraken]

poking my head in here to say HONK, and also nice work

[tight escarp]

Honk and thank you 🙂

[tight escarp]

How's the forest looking so far?

[leaden horizon]

nice

[robust flax]

It does appear as if your keeping to a true grid and at the same time not, which makes the trees look a bit jittery (as they jump a pixel in the animation along with swaying)

[tight escarp]

I think the jump in a pixel is because of the gif looping?

[robust flax]

I can see the horizontal lines as the tree moved when the goose goes past.

[tight escarp]

I see your point. I might change how the shader works 🤔

[tight escarp]

Adding pets, just for fun.

[lusty tartan]

my closest association to crabs is rust lang

am i mentally ill

[hushed parcel]

Were u always controlling with tapping

[tight escarp]

Kinda, it's been an early integration

[raw jungle]

does this game have a Steam page or smthng?

[tight escarp]

working on it. I should have it soon 🙂

[tight escarp]

Necro-goose joined the party 💀

[hushed parcel]

o‿O

:)

Epic

Is it a prebuilt map btw

[tight escarp]

I made the tileset myself 🙂

[hushed parcel]

I mean the map isnt random right?

[hushed parcel]

Ping

[hushed parcel]

In my game it is and shops dont work bruh

[tight escarp]

oh yeah it's pre-build

[civic skiff]

im assuming you have to pay the steam fee to use this correct?

[tight escarp]

Yeah paying the steam fee gives you access to their API 🙂

[civic skiff]

dang. I've seen some people bypass it but that sucks. Wish there was a good way to do multiplayer for free.

[robust flax]

Servers cost money sadly. You could hook it up to something you own but then you're also letting people onto your server, so then you need to either sort out security or pay someone else to manage it.

[civic skiff]

Yeah. I've also been looking into using servers off of the hosts computer, but don't know how.

[robust flax]

I can't offer you any help other than to look up how to do networking for a godot game as I've never done multiplayer myself.

[tight escarp]

Heey Honk of Heroes has a steam page now
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2658580/Honk_of_Heroes/

Steam

Honk of Heroes

Your mission is to be part of a skillful group of mercenary geese tasked with vanquishing dark forces to proclaim a new era of justice.But the task will be impossible alone, join up with other geese to make your party complete.The party will always need three combat ready geese.Meet the Warrior"With wings spread wide, I take my place at the fron...

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[leaden horizon]

beautiful

[leaden horizon]

i shared this in like 4 other servers

btw

[tight escarp]

awh thanks a ton ❤️

[vapid yarrow]

This looks great! I think it would be nice if the items the geese are 'carrying' bounced a little when they moved around, since the geese already have some bounce to their animation.

[robust flax]

Any chance at a Mac build (I know steam said Windows only)

[tight escarp]

Hm I could try touching it up

[tight escarp]

For now it's a low priority, but I'll see if it's doable with a small team.

[robust flax]

[wary scaffold]

Wishlisted! Good luck 👍

[tight escarp]

Hey thank you, greatly appreciated.

[tight escarp]

Just a drawing I made for the game 😅

I just love the goofiness of this

[hard folio]

Only the true experience when played with desktop goose

[hushed parcel]

Gigachad ducks lol
*Geese not ducks

[hushed parcel]

Will it be pay to play?

Cuz of steam fees and stuff like dat

[tight escarp]

yeah it's not going to be free, but since it's coop game the price won't be too high

[hushed parcel]

Oh can't try then at least for half a year

[gentle sun]

Wishlisted! So excited for this 🙂 Happy to beta test with pals if you need

[tight escarp]

Thank you 😄
We are going to look for testers pretty soon and we'd love to have groups of friends testing it for sure.

Join our discord server, I can't post the link here, but check out my profile for it. Since that's the first place we will look for testers.

[hard folio]

You can if you -sudo in #bot-cmd btw

[tight escarp]

https://discord.com/invite/rjZm2V5aFS

[tight escarp]

alright, thanks 😄

Little tweet ;d
https://twitter.com/MadNukin/status/1766463962286117089

mads | wishlist Honk of Heroes (@MadNukin) on X

how it started vs how it's going
#screenshotsaturday #pixelart #godot #honkofheroes

Twitter · Mar 9, 2024, 2:00 PM

[tight escarp]

Forest time

[serene elk]

It's dangerous to go alone, take this!

[digital hound]

Wow the details are unparalleled

[tight escarp]

thanks, it's been challenging to make the forest feel alive but I'm getting there.

[serene elk]

Congrats on making it into StayAtHome's Godot project of the year!

[tight escarp]

Hey thanks.

I think it's more of a weekly video for Godot projects rather than project of the year, but I'll still take it!

[safe gust]

when relise date?

[tight escarp]

I can't tell. Still working on the core of the game.

[safe gust]

oh ok then

[tight escarp]

Got a lobby starting area going 👀

[old girder]

Honk

[tight escarp]

Honk

[turbid lion]

Honk

[thorn drift]

Just here to Honk! ^^ 😁

[lusty tartan]

honk

[novel pier]

Honk!

[hushed parcel]

HoNk

[turbid lion]

ho-nk

[hushed parcel]

h-o-n-k

[lilac grove]

this is so big, i just got my multiplaye working using godots basic multiplayer system. Might be an obvious question but would this mean no one would have to port forward to connect?

also if its not to big of an ask, would you have any multiplayer framework tips in general? the documentation on this is pretty light and it has been an experience getting my game to work 😅

[tight escarp]

If you have the SteamSDK and you are using GodotSteam, you don't need port forwarding. 🙂

[tight escarp]

I'm actually just winging it so far, I don't have much multiplayer experience prior to this game. Just prototypes.
But here's a few tips:

• Keep track of all the objects spawned with the MultiplayerSpawner so each client knows what's up.
• Let MultiplayerSpawner handle your scene's spawning/destroying nodes, don't fight it.
• MultiplayerSynchronizer is not reliable if it's inside inside a scene that is not under the server's authority.

But if you got any more questions come over to my discord server and I have a nerd chat for that, I want to keep this thread mostly for updates on Honk of Heroes. 😄

[lilac grove]

I appreciate this so much :) that last tip is super useful and could save me some future headaches

[urban wedge]

love the graphics!

have you done any of the combat yet?

[tight escarp]

yeah I have. It's real time combat, fun times. Checkout the trailer, it start with combat.

[gentle sun]

Wait so did you build with p2p multiplayer in mind from the ground up or did you add in the latter afterwards?

[tight escarp]

I added it later. It was supposed to be hosted on a server, but that got too expensive and complicated.

[rugged coyote]

Impressive!

[tight escarp]

awh thanks 😊

[rugged coyote]

You were featured on "This Week in Godot"

I saw your game on Twitter before then, though

[tight escarp]

Yeah haha, I'm really greatful people liked it

We even won the weekly vote ;d

[rugged coyote]

(Guess who I voted for)

:)

[tight escarp]

haha thanks buddy, truly appreciated ❤️

[tight escarp]

Goose Banana 🍌

[rugged coyote]

lol the hands

Awesome

[lime holly]

Kinda looks like a hotdog

Maybe make the ends less red?

[rugged coyote]

Yeah more brown less red

And bananas usually only have one prominent end and one tiny one

[umbral radish]

Heh now cant unsee it

[tight escarp]

damn I can't unsee it now too...

🌭

[languid scarab]

i mean you could just leave as a hotdog and add a banana additionally lol

[tight escarp]

I was just building a an item holding system... I don't even need the hot-dog-banana

[rugged coyote]

You should keep it

Make it a bit more ambiguous

And call it "food"

[tight escarp]

haha and let the community argue about it, that's so diabolical, I love it.

[hard folio]

Bana Dog

[rugged coyote]

Actually I think it might be ambiguous enough

You'd just have to point it out somehow

[midnight fable]

Who are you: banana gang or hotdog gang

[tight escarp]

You got 24 hours, let's find out

[lusty tartan]

where is the "food" option

[tight escarp]

too controversial, had to axe it

[hushed parcel]

We are doing great :/
50-50

[lime holly]

Got in just in time

[hushed parcel]

Nooooo it didnt be a draw :(

And i lost

[tight escarp]

can't argue with the people's vote, banana it is!

[mental thicket]

Banana it is or thread is deleted

[hushed parcel]

If that person could had misclicked to hotdog...

[robust flax]

peppah

[rugged coyote]

Reveal the description!

[tight escarp]

The people have voted!

I think this might be the most interesting one, so good vote 👍

[rugged coyote]

Woah

Exploding eggs!

[lusty tartan]

i intuitively chose it because bees sound like a weapon and boots are, well, boots

[rugged coyote]

That's a double reveal

[tight escarp]

I though that's how most people picked it

[rugged coyote]

I picked boots :|

The other two seemed too predictable having played ToTK and BoTW

I was pleasantly surprised.

[tight escarp]

haha maybe the other two are super predictable 😅

[rugged coyote]

How much are you going with the Goose theming?

[leaden horizon]

isnt the entire game goose themed

[rugged coyote]

Meh not really

Just the player characters

They still use swords and shields and explore dungeons

I was asking because I think the items could benefit from some more gooseyness

[tight escarp]

I like the idea of being somewhat goose themed, I don't want to be too much on the nose.
I do like to take the opportunity if there is something clever, but mostly I like the idea of a goose in a regular dungeon game. Even tho the gameplay is not super regular 😅

[rugged coyote]

Yeah I think the pepper is a perfect example of a nice balance

It's a totally "normal" item, but it makes you lay exploding eggs

[tight escarp]

exactly.

[rugged coyote]

You do have a dedicated honk button, right?

One that just honks for the sake of honking?

An item that does some knockback (no damage) to enemies when you honk would be cool

[tight escarp]

actually we have that haha 😂

[rugged coyote]

:D Awesome

[tight escarp]

that's actually an interesting idea.
Even when you type something it will honk so that could be fun.

[rugged coyote]

Nice

[robust flax]

I still love this idea for the only method of communication

[rugged coyote]

Oooh that's a nice idea

expressive honks and no other communication

People will still of course use morse code

[glacial burrow]

(this is an incredibly silly idea so please ignore me lol) use a microphone to measure the volume of the player and convert the volume into different types of honks

[mental thicket]

"ARGGGHHH" -> HOOOONK
"arghh" -> Honk
"ah" -> honk
"ah" -> *honk

[tight escarp]

that's hilarious. It reminds me of a game where it will listen to your voice and whenever you'd say something it will jump. The louder the higher jump it does. 😄

[rugged coyote]

If you do that you can make it a setting

✅ Enable Voice Honks
[ Talking into your microphone will make your goose honk. You can still honk with the "honk" button.]

[leaden horizon]

get a honk filter for VC so all of your words become autotuned honks

[rugged coyote]

Haha that'd be awesome

I bet you could just cheat it by matching pre-recorded honks to the volume of the mic input

[long flint]

Looks cool. Does godot’s built in multiplayer handle synchronization? And things like client side prediction?

[tight escarp]

Sadly the MultiplayerSyncronizer doesn't work that well currently.
And there is no client side prediction built-in, but I didn't need it for this game.

[long flint]

Ah okay

[rugged coyote]

What happens if 2 people pick up an item at the same time?

[robust flax]

Well, ultimately one arrives at the server first?

[rugged coyote]

Is there a server? I thought it was P2P

What happens if one arrives at the server first but they still both arrive so they still both pick up the item? Do you have some sort of unique ID system in place?

[robust flax]

Ah, I thought it used Steam's servers.

[long flint]

This is generally done as whoever gets processed first in the update list, gets the item first. Now if it were P2P both players are running the same code and both players would run their own code first.

In which case, both players would get the item.

But if it was restricted to only one player,

Then you could simply give it to the host.

Or have both clients rng for it.

But realistically you could attach a timestamp to when each player's input arrived to the server.

Then sort by that timestamp.

So earliest timestamp gets updated first.

[rugged coyote]

Ah that makes sense

[long flint]

Some games to prevent people abusing of being placed in the update que first (First login is at the beginning of the queue)

They'll shuffle the queue every few seconds.

So no one single person always gets the first update.

[robust flax]

Minecraft works on a queue for pickups, those who logged in first get higher priority

[tight escarp]

THE KAMIKAZE BEES

[lusty tartan]

i knew it was a weapon!

[tight escarp]

It's a pretty fun one too haha.

[safe gust]

this gona be hard man, i can wait for the full relise

[tight escarp]

Captain Goose 🇺🇸

[tight escarp]

All you need is friends ❤️

[lusty tartan]

i don't have friends what do i do

[rugged coyote]

play with enemies

[tight escarp]

👆

It should be extra fun with enemies

[long flint]

Did you make the art yourself for this?

[tight escarp]

The tileset I found online, but the goose is proudly mine.

[civic skiff]

how did you come up with the idea of this game? Its so polished and the idea is really good i just cant come up with anything of the same quality.

[rugged coyote]

Not mads, but I believe execution is the majority of the difficulty. Any idea will do if you give it some love and execute it in the best way you can

[tight escarp]

You see Honk of Heroes and think it's polished but I don't see that, I see all of the ins and outs and what needs to be fixed and it's very far from perfect to me.
What I'd recommend is that you start playing more games, build that library in your mind.
No ideas are original, for an example Honk of Heroes is just World of Warcraft's dungeon system with Untitled Goose Game's goofiness.
Nobody is a genius, we just know how to combine already existing ideas and trust the process 🙂

[tight escarp]

Ideas come and go, but dedicated execution is priceless ✨

[civic skiff]

dang. I good info. I always think people just come up with games but it never seems that way. I just feel really guilty because im seeing all these games on here that i like but i dont want to straight up copy them.

I just can't seem to find any ideas.

[craggy palm]

I once played a game about you being a fish in a sewer saving and killing over fish, half way through there is a song sung by some larva about how infecting and eating meat is awsome. Think of any idea, someone will play it

anyway
HONK TO KILL

[wispy rose]

beautiful

brilliant

brilliance

[lilac grove]

honestly man, copying is great!! im not saying you should copy to be succesful, but especitally starting out you learn sooooo much by straight up copying some games or game mechanics

there is so many things you dont notice in games, and taking the time to analysis and make their systems teaches you so much. also on the plus sid,e you ussualy come up with fun ideas to make what you copied more fun

[civic skiff]

used this advice and it helped alot. The problem is the fact that I love ideas from certain games such as this one so much that I just want to make the same game changing a couple of things. And because ive seen the art and how it looks and I like it I want to copy it also, then it goes into a rabbit hole of me just copying the whole game...

[civic skiff]

and I get bored with ideas so quick that its hard for me to continue doing something unless its actually fun and i get support on it

[hushed parcel]

Honk

[mental thicket]

Honk Indeed

[hushed parcel]

H O N K

[mental thicket]

H O N K

[tight escarp]

HONK

[mental thicket]

H O N K

[dense elbow]

honk

[mental thicket]

H O N K

[weak slate]

make the duck do a roll and able to parry, embrace the dark souls

and add traps

[serene elk]

i kinda think the duck/goose theme should be leaned into more

stuff like swimming, but no weapons being able to be held while doing it, would be kinda cool

[weak slate]

yeah swimming would be awesome

[tight escarp]

if there is anyone that would be able to swing swords and swin it's the geese 💪

Some self-love ❤️

[tranquil dirge]

That's a rlly cool way to implement heals :o

Do they heal enemies too if accidentally colliding with one?

[tight escarp]

Nooo, but maybe if the healer gets cursed. Healing orbs also heal the enemies 🥹

[tranquil dirge]

Ooh that might be cool

Or you could do a Minecraft-like situation where healing orbs do dmg to enemies? Like how healing potions dmg zombies

[tight escarp]

Hey that's interesting!
The only issue is healing players behind enemies, but maybe it hits an enemy and goes through it & it still heals the player behind it.

Or maybe creates a small explosion on inpact to heal/damage anyone in it's radius 🤔

[tranquil dirge]

I mean, imo, that may lend a more strategic element to healing? Like having make decisions like "ok the fighter's in a group of enemies, do I try and find a good angle to heal them, or just use my orbs to kill them faster and THEN heal them?"

Or at the very least make healing more interesting to do (I may be talking out my ass here so feel free to ignore me 👍)

[tight escarp]

I completely understand this way of design.
The problem is that I want to isolate each role's experience.
I want the healer to focus +70% of their attention on healing.
That way each role has a unique experience, even tho you can play the same dungeon it will be a different experience with each role.
But that being said, your idea could enhance the experience none the less, it's worth the explore!

[drowsy ember]

what if the healing orbs also healed enemies so you had to pay more attention to how you're shooting and be more strategic? But make it heal enemies for a lot less than players so that it's not discouraged

[tranquil dirge]

^^^

[tight escarp]

it's something that's been also mentioned on my server, it's something I want to explore in the future for sure 😄

[serene elk]

another thing you have to consider is that people don't generally like playing a healer

or any support

i think tf2 is the only exception with its medic class

[tight escarp]

I completely agree. That's why my focus is to make enemies that bounce off well with the group's dynamic and aren't just an obstacle for the damage dealer.

[drowsy ember]

maybe you can have the healer gain some offensive buffs when healing others so that they're more fun to play? Not like a constant damage dealer and not too strong but just something that comes in big bursts

like maybe if they keep up a good combo of heals they damage enemies in a splash radius around them and push them away

[tranquil dirge]

I've seen a concept of "defensive support" vs "offensive support" where it's like the difference between like buffing teammates (heals, extra dmg etc) and nerfing enemies (CC or anything like that)

Perhaps smth along the lines of an ability to slow enemies in an area, and then implementing an enemy that's rlly fast and hard to hit that is a lot easier to kill when slowed down?

So the support is actually valued outside of their ability to "make sure my health bar is full"

[coral solar]

Good evening Honkers. Where can I pirate this game?

[tight escarp]

Currently the healer is somewhat offensive-support for sure and that's the direction that would probably be the most fun 😄

[tight escarp]

It's not out yet, but if you can't afford it just DM me and we'll figure it out.

[coral solar]

No don't worry, I'm just joking. I think it's a really cool concept and the updates look great!

[tranquil dirge]

Looking forward to seeing where it goes 👍

[tight escarp]

haha that's fair ❤️

[tight escarp]

I'll keep posting 🙂

[soft oak]

Hello @tight escarp, just wondering, is this game going on Steam?

[tight escarp]

Yeah, I already got a page!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2658580/Honk_of_Heroes/

Steam

Honk of Heroes

Your mission is to be part of a skillful group of mercenary geese tasked with vanquishing dark forces to proclaim a new era of justice.But the task will be impossible alone, join up with other geese to make your party complete.The party will always need three combat ready geese.Meet the Warrior"With wings spread wide, I take my place at the fron...

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[soft oak]

nice, lol the game idea is really great 😄

love it

nice name to "honk of heros"

[tight escarp]

haha thanks, hopefully the gameplay is also enticing 😊

[soft oak]

yeah, the trailer looks really cool!

[hushed parcel]

Just looked at trailer and as torle says its really nice

[tight escarp]

Thanks boys, appreciate it 🙏

[soft oak]

np, shame it isn't for macOS though 😢

[tight escarp]

If I have the fund & time it should be easier to port, but for now it's lower priority 😔

[soft oak]

ok

[robust flax]

Would also love a mac build

My other question would be if there are plans to get it to work on the steam deck?

[tight escarp]

100%
I want the game to be playable with controller 🕹️

[robust flax]

[spark cypress]

Just discovered this. This is really, really cool, from the art style, to the atmosphere and cristal clear action. This is the game I should be doing instead of coding NodeJS workers for a random company. You're an inspiration 🙏

[tight escarp]

I'm really happy to inspire you 🤗
I hope you find the time to chase the dream ❤️

[spark cypress]

Honk 💪 🫂

[tight escarp]

Trying to make a rogue class, how does it look so far?

[fossil gyro]

Very smooth. Maybe give various animations for each blade though too (if there are other attacks or something). The same double-stab may get old.

[weak slate]

left click and right click for each blade?

[tight escarp]

agreed, maybe adding at least consecutive stabs could be pretty sweet

[fossil gyro]

Yeah, even if it's just a slightly new animation or, not even new. Have the timings of each blades' animation offset and or a combo of that and what Matt_ said above. It would do wonders to break up would could be a potentially monotonous visual.

[tranquil dirge]

How would the warrior and rogue differ from each other? Ik how games usually do it but im interested in how you're planning to implement it

[tight escarp]

The warrior is tanky but the rogue will be a damage dealer.

[fossil gyro]

I taught myself c# and Unity over the past 4-ish years or so and now I'm knocking on the doors of Godot and gdscript and boy am I glad I am. This is one of the coolest projects I've seen in a long ass time. (Wildlife ecologist by day here too) The visuals so far and the character sprites themselves are perfect. lol

Games like this are what got me into programming. Keep up the stellar work here!

[tranquil dirge]

Icic

[tight escarp]

awhh man, thanks for the kind words ❤️
I think the main demographic for this game will be wildlife ecologists 😅

[fossil gyro]

I may have shared progress of it from here with some other wildlife folks. 😄

Of course!

[tight escarp]

hahaha that sounds right 😄

[tight escarp]

apples

[fossil gyro]

That's a very pleasing little eating animation.

[tight escarp]

Egg thieves everywhere

[tranquil dirge]

"Honk honk honk" has such emotion to it

[drowsy ember]

Angry birds...

[weak slate]

capture the flag egg

[fossil gyro]

Nooo! Save the eggs!

[tight escarp]

new chat bubbles 🗨️

[long flint]

Woahhh

So cuteee

[tight escarp]

Awh thanks

[tight escarp]

Holding & dropping items is too satisfying 🤩

The amazing part is that all of this works multiplayer, really happy with it 🙂

[fossil gyro]

That's really smooth. Well done!

[drowsy ember]

ooo that's so polished I love it

[tight escarp]

thank you 🙂

[hushed parcel]

Maybe imma get this
About a week till my credit card arrives

[fossil gyro]

I think the part that really sells it for me is the little slide the items do with their velocity when thrown on the ground. Lot os fine details here all working very nicely together.

[tight escarp]

I think I'll need more than a week to finish the game 🙈

[tight escarp]

Thank you! I really enjoy this part of development, getting all those tiny details that make a game feel unique.

[fossil gyro]

It's hard!! I want to do something similar to this but I just don't have the time so it's quick n dirty games for me! lol

[tight escarp]

Yeah that's absolutely understandable. I don't think every type of game needs this sort of approach.

[fossil gyro]

Exactly! But when done right like here, chef's kiss

[hushed parcel]

Wanna be a tester then
But cant wait to touch this game

I just want to touch it
Demo or anything

[tight escarp]

I've been thinking about Early Access. It needs time but I think this game will be built best with a community playing it everyday.

[hushed parcel]

Wanna play it a bit

[hushed parcel]

U will be famous lol
U will have a big big community

Phew how could a make a good game like this

[tight escarp]

Haha I just want to make a fun game and not push away people with a too early of a build.

[tight escarp]

Just chip away every day, don't give up and sooner or later you'll get somewhere.

[hushed parcel]

Well i got somewhere
But idk where tho
And that every day part is hard to me lol
I had a time when i was doing my duck hard and now got back to mostly gaming mode

Maybe thats my problem lol

[tight escarp]

I actually have the same problem. I love playing games and if I start my day with gaming then my dopamine levels will be sky high and I won't feel like working.
Now I end my days with playing games and it's been working magic for my productivity.

[tight escarp]

Finally got the shop working and it immediately there is a customer!

[junior mirage]

this looks so cool

is there a quack button?

[tight escarp]

H is the dedicated Honk button 🙂

[compact ibex]

H for Honk!

[wary rampart]

I will be watching your career with great interest

[junior mirage]

[tight escarp]

It's already a fun ride 🙂

[rocky elm]

how did you do the hands?!

[tight escarp]

What do you wanna know exactly?

[tight escarp]

Thoughts on this new tileset?

[mental thicket]

Looks quite cool!

The smallest tiles might be a bit much

Like with all the lines

Like right here

[rocky elm]

like code wise how does the hand animation work?

[vapid yarrow]

The art style is topdown but I can't tell if the player's collision with the level is overhead (player can only walk where there is a visible floor) or topdown (player can go behind walls that are in front of them and be partly obscured from view). If it is the latter I think the dirt on the ground behind the square in the bottom left of the screenshot should be down where the base of the back wall would be.

[tight escarp]

Oh yeah I see what you mean. I can probably either fix it with lowering the saturation on the grid color or just making the grid larger 🤔

[tight escarp]

Maybe this helps clear it up?

[tight escarp]

The hands are orbiting around the goose and following the mouse direction.

[rocky elm]

wow!!!

ive tried making similar hands ages ago, never figured out how in a way that looks good

[vapid yarrow]

Ah yes, that makes it clearer I think.

[junior mirage]

this looks so good

[junior mirage]

will you make a demo or early access?

[tight escarp]

thank you 🙂

[tight escarp]

I want to target a demo first & with the feedback I want to go to early access.
I'll try to get the demo for Steam Next Fest 🤞

[tight escarp]

Here is an enemy I just added.

[wary rampart]

Love the jumpscare attack

[weak slate]

wheres the dodge roll 🤓☝️

[rocky seal]

ever played minecraft dungeons?

[tight escarp]

Sadly a goose can't dodge roll... 😔

[tight escarp]

nope, is there a similar enemy there?

[keen breach]

Looks awesome and the way it interacts with everything looks good too

[tight escarp]

hey thank you. I tried to juice up this example 😄

[lilac grove]

It would be nice if there was a semi transparent line right before it shoots since that seems kinda hard to predict where the laser will start

Rly cool effects so far tho!

[tight escarp]

that's fair!
I actually completely forgot about the telegraph part of the attack

[wary rampart]

Honestly I feel like that adds to it, you get hit the first time by the surprise attack and now you know to hide behind something or dodge while its opening

[rocky seal]

that only works if the book is nerfed to the ground

right now it is

but

i think it was for demonstration

[tight escarp]

I usually like being able to avoid hits in games, but since this game has a 24/7 healer then I can possibly get away with it

[tight escarp]

what do you mean with nerfed to the ground?

[terse plank]

I was checking out the website and found out that the social media labels can be cut off... Changing width to min-width in the <a> element fixes this! ^^

[tight escarp]

I didn't build the website, I used carrd.co to make it.
I can't seem to figure out how to fix it 😅

oh I think I fixed it, can you try again @terse plank

[terse plank]

Oh alrighty! Yeah, it seems to be fixed!

[tight escarp]

hey thanks for letting me know 🤗

[compact ibex]

if a bullet can dodge roll, what's stopping the goose?

(enter the gungeon)

[drowsy ember]

Bullets don't have a long neck

[tight escarp]

best explanation so far

[mental thicket]

So the goose has to flap it wings to dodge? Use them like a propeller to dodge in different directions?

Or break its neck

One sounds cooler than the other

[compact ibex]

just make it honk an ultrasonic wave that neutralizes bullets, its not that hard!!! /j 😂

[tight escarp]

The idea of the game is to rely on your team to get healed, so if I add dodge roll then it defeats the whole purpose of the game.

But now I really wanna see a goose dodge rolling 👀

[glacial burrow]

maybe the (only) healing goose can dodge roll?

[tight escarp]

but all the other geese are going to get jealous

[glacial burrow]

lmao

[drowsy ember]

More incentive to pick the healer

[mental thicket]

What if the geese can duck...?

like lower their head...?

[tight escarp]

I don't know about a goose ducking, sounds wrong 🫣

[mental thicket]

a goose goosing then?

[tight escarp]

now that's something I can see working

[pure wyvern]

that's just gonna make healer goose quacking op though

damage, healing, dodge rolling T-T

[pure wyvern]

what about jumping?

https://vimeo.com/347887373 just look at how strong geese are at jumping, ofc they can dodge lasers 💪

[tight escarp]

Never seen a goose jumping.. this was amazing 🤩

[weak slate]

jumping might look weird with 2d sprites because of the layer switching

say if you jump inside the beam, it would look wrong as the duck would just appear instantly on top the beem

so goosing might be better

what if instead the shield blocks the beems?

then the player can protect their teamates by getting behind the player with the shield

ooo

could open up some interesting team puzzles

maybe even portal like puzzles if you can deflect the beem haha

[pure wyvern]

I think archer needs some use, too
From what I've seen, they are just damaging enemies from afar, while warrior blocks the damage

Maybe some buttons that cannot be reached, but can be shot at?

[compact ibex]

today, i woke up and came on discord with one goal in mind

add goosing

thats what i wanted to say

now i can go back to sleeping peacefully

[tight escarp]

Yeah that's something I'm down to make for future puzzle

[tight escarp]

Little toxic bat

[serene elk]

Is the pool that the dying bat leaves behind also toxic?

If not, having it there might confuse some players

[tight escarp]

that's a great point. Maybe I can make it toxic or maybe lower it's intensity 🤔

[dusty meteor]

looking honkin'

[drowsy ember]

i think if its made a bit more transparent and maybe the fading shader/animation starts at a moment where there's less sludge then it shouldn't be confusing

[tight escarp]

Yeah I think this would help a lot. 👍

[rocky seal]

i hate poison so much

esp. since it's on death

[tight escarp]

At least they die 😅

[pure wyvern]

creeper
aww maaan

[junior mirage]

51 swan reactions even though there is a goose emoji

it be cool if there were different bats for each effect

like a goo for slowing
one for cold
one for fire

[serene elk]

or just make it fade quickly

[tight escarp]

I think at the time I created this post there was no goose emoji 🪿

[tight escarp]

I actually have different enemies for the other elemets ;D

[tight escarp]

that's a great point 🤔

[tight escarp]

Added a spawner for the toxic bats 😈

[serene elk]

that's so disgusting, i love it

[junior mirage]

reminds me of minecraft slimes its cool

[glacial burrow]

just a suggestion but maybe if you go to close to the spawner thing theres a permenant small toxic damage radius

[old girder]

I agree with that, would make really good use of all classes. The melee would need constant heal and the archer can attack from a safe distance

[tight escarp]

I like the idea. It adds some complexity to the enemy in a very simple way.

[tight escarp]

Great point. And the tank doesn't need to really pay attention to this enemy since it doesn't matter who it has targeted.

[rocky seal]

do those exist

[craggy palm]

Is there a class system in the game?
Cause being able to be a bard goose i recon would be really cool, this could be like a charector selector, where its just a wizard goose or something

[tight escarp]

that's the concept.
Currently I have only 3 classes for the upcoming demo. But the idea is to have meta progression & unlock classes 🙂

[craggy palm]

Could i ask what the classes are possibly?

[tight escarp]

The only finished classes right now are the main ones. Warrior, Cleric & Archer.

I have Necromancer, Barbarian, Bard in the works

And I have a bunch of more classes in the backlog

[craggy palm]

That sounds really cool, i wish you the best of luck on those classes
Gonna buy the game as soon as it comes out, looking real good

[craggy palm]

when might the demo be?
No rush just a idea could be cool

[tight escarp]

I want to release a demo for Steam Next Fest. That's Oct 14

[weak slate]

😤

[craggy palm]

WOOOO, excited

[rocky seal]

pog

[tight escarp]

woaaaah @weak slate this is amazing!
It's so well made, I absolutely love it 😍

[teal crag]

Nice!! Can't wait to see it

[weak slate]

Thanks 💪

I really want to do that toxic bat next

[tight escarp]

How long did this take you?

[tight escarp]

oh that might be super complicated 😅 but it would be really fun to see

@weak slate do you mind if I post this on Twitter? Or if you got a twitter I can just repost it

[last viper]

https://x.com/Matt_on_a_trey/status/1810300529261650349

Matthew Goodman (@Matt_on_a_trey) on X

fan art for Honk of Heroes 😊

Twitter · Jul 8, 2024, 1:10 PM

here 🙂

[last viper]

haha im working on it, you should post a meme where its "how you think you look vs how you actually look" and its your illustration and my 3d model

[tight escarp]

but it turned out so great 🤩

[last viper]

haha thanks btw could you give me a quick sketch of how the bat eyes look?

im thinking is like pac man with a sphere in the middle?

[tight escarp]

this is how it looks.
The black dots are it's eyes

[weak slate]

Ohh

I thought the green bit was its eye

[tight escarp]

yeah I'm not the greatest artist 😅

[craggy palm]

good programmer though

[craggy palm]

Just gonna leave this here

@last viper im not good at blender, gonna make a better model, but made this in 10 minutes. just wanted to do something

[tight escarp]

This looks adorable. For a split second I actually saw Shrek. It's early in the morning here haha

[craggy palm]

3d honk of heroes

[tight escarp]

the sequel ;d

[craggy palm]

In all honesty i dont think the game would be better if it was 3d, its got a nice 2d charm

[craggy palm]

btw you got a honk feature?

[tight escarp]

press H to honk

[craggy palm]

nice

[trim dove]

Peace was never an option 🔪

[tight escarp]

Fire enemy 🔥

[glacial burrow]

wow that looks good, I would say I think it shoots in one direction for too long though

maybe take a second or two off

[craggy palm]

what if it tracked the player slightly, for like 0.2 seconds

[glacial burrow]

that also could work

[craggy palm]

or it does like a spin to try to track the player

[craggy palm]

im modeling that cute boy

[tight escarp]

Thanks guys.
The idea of the enemy is to provide a static area where the player doesn't want to enter for a few seconds.
It just happens to be a vomit enemy 😅

I'm trying to keep enemies simple and when they combine with other enemies that's where the complexity ramps up

[tight escarp]

let's gooo 😄

Here's a better example of the enemy

[glacial burrow]

it looks very cute without aany fire coming out its mouth

[rocky seal]

fire and poison dmg need to be way nerfed imo

[craggy palm]

thanks.

[craggy palm]

wdym, looks balenced its a strong enemy

[rocky seal]

fire and poison are really annoying and don't make for fun gameplay

when you die seconds after defeating all the enemies

[craggy palm]

So decrease how long the debuff is on the player

[rocky seal]

No, usually just when you get the status effect lose a huge chunk and then lose a tiny bit from fire and poison

makes the effect recognized

but they're just not effective ways to increase difficulty without being annoying

[craggy palm]

Then increase the fire damage, decrease how long its on the player, and make the enemy only do fire damage

So you only take damage when in fire

In the end its the devs choise

[rocky seal]

when inside the attack, take a ton of damage (with a lot of grace frames of course) and then take a tiny amount from fire is how i like to do it

makes combat feel more fair

[craggy palm]

Kinda the idea i had with being in the flames would be hotter, so you take more damage, then you take small damage outside of the flames

[tight escarp]

yeah I can agree with this.
I'll balance the game once I have more people playing it.
I'm very attentive to those details, I just need data to backup those concerns. 🤓

[craggy palm]

If you need any testers to just test really obsure bugs i can help, like trying to chain powers and break the game, Im good at that

[tight escarp]

Map for my randomly generated dungeon

[keen breach]

🔥

[craggy palm]

i have an idea for the druid class, When they polymorph, instead of changing animals, the goose just puts a sheet over its self thats painted like the animal

[tight escarp]

I like this, but I have a different idea for the druid class, was thinking what if the goose transforms into a human.

[craggy palm]

haha

[tight escarp]

Shield Buff.
I'm wondering if you guys understand how this works just by looking at it 🤔

[mental thicket]

Is it like another healthbar that has to be depleted befor you can do "real" damage?

[rocky seal]

it's like a minecraft dungeons wildfire

[tight escarp]

Yeah. But each hit cracks/breaks the shields, now matter how powereful.

[mystic fog]

dude this looks so fun

[tight escarp]

Thanks, it's fun making it appealing 🙂

[tight escarp]

Healing buff ❤️

[keen breach]

Looks sick man