Project S-812

[unique hill]

24 now

22 by the time I send this message

[icy anchor]

21

damn

i

shouldn't

have

made

long

messages

[unique hill]

beep

bap

boop

bop

bep

bap

bloop

[icy anchor]

7

more

[unique hill]

6

5

lets not waste the next 3 ones on something random

[icy anchor]

Alright, but idk what should i say besides... Nearly ago i started to understand that i need really fast and optimized decals for my own game, because projected ones i have in 3.X don't do the thing so... found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFFZpmbhv6A

The only issue though, it's all using ImmediateGeometry that can become a damn bottleneck fast, so i downloaded the project (lovely MIT license) and changed it to use MeshInstance instead

It's working, now just gotta embed into my project

Why didn't i like the projected ones i had?

1. GPU overhead
2. Issues with lighting
3. Dynamic props still could get covered by them, like office chairs that can be picked up by player
   And etc

[unique hill]

theres that 3000 mark right there

some where idk what message specifically

but thats interetsting

I'd love to playtest ur game some time ngl

[icy anchor]

3000 mark is literal checklist against my implementation of projected decals, that's a great way to roast myself

[icy anchor]

I have ancient builds of the game, like, really ancient, they can be played well. About current versions? I have no clue how to upload 12 GB with my unstable internet

[unique hill]

lmao

i have a video from the first

first first

early early

prototype

of this game from a year ago

I ended up restarting completely somewhere along the way and then its become what it is now

but maybe I can send it here at some point

its how this single thread

has more messages sent in it than the #1149772367682355330 thread

and was made around the same time

[icy anchor]

I'd see that!

[icy anchor]

Btw i still have these uploaded, if you want, you can download them

[icy anchor]

Wait, really? .-.

I wonder if creation of Progress Dump became a reason for you to make this thread

https://discord.com/channels/212250894228652034/1149769901918138581

That was the start of "Progress Dump"

[unique hill]

it is the only reason I made this thread

I didnt have the idea of sending progress until I saw it

[icy anchor]

I'm glad to know that i'm not the only person that likes the older format more than current #1055700111562379296, and also glad that moderators actually found a good compomise to not clutter the channels even more

[frail portal]

Oh you also got the lighting issue with normal decals?

[icy anchor]

I'm using 3.x., i have no decals (officially), but i've used "Decal Co." that, as i understand, have been implemented in a bit more optimized form in 4.x. However, yea, i have issue with them, which is no surprise, it is impossible to get lighting computation right on a cube that will be projected on surface

[frail portal]

I'm using 4.1.1 and using decals on a surface causes any nearby surfaces to have issues with reflections.

left is with decal

[icy anchor]

Damn, i have a strong feel that mesh-based decals should be used for static geometry simply because these have no issues with anything, because it is literally a mesh

[icy anchor]

Sad

[frail portal]

it actually works with SDFGI

but then I'd have to keep that on

So I'll probably need to find a different solution

I'll probably have to submit a bug report

[icy anchor]

As long as you can provide them MRP - that's a good idea

And even if you can't, they are pretty supportive and can help you to investigate that issue and see how to fix it

At least that's what they did when i had problems with performance of audio

[heady thorn]

The amount of people that require such functionality is seriously low. There's way more things the team could better focus their energy on.

Live coding with others is overrated and rarely used in daily development. Just code your stuff, commit, open a PR and others can work with your code from there.

[wooden grail]

Are you the ping justice warrior or what 😒

[unique hill]

i honestly think that, if added, my team would seriously use that feature very often

[iron shore]

yes

[heady thorn]

I'd argue that your team have a flawed development process.

[unique hill]

we do

bc were in school so most of us barely have time to do things

im the only one who has enough time to consistently work on the game

hoping for us to be able to work faster & better during the summer break

we're just doing this bc we find it fun

[heady thorn]

I'd take a more stable development process over speed any time

My point being if everyone's changing everything in the codebase at the same time, there's f-all you can do to prevent horrible breaking changes

[unique hill]

by faster & better I mean faster and better as in the rest of the team learning how to utilize the engine to the fullest extent such that we can work together easily

[unique hill]

for this game specifically Im the only programmer for it

so the codebase doesnt get messed up

we do however have another programmer

but hes british so timezones are a thing

for other games im hoping to find a workflow so we can make changes without breaking things

[heady thorn]

Hence why you should use git

[unique hill]

I do

[wooden grail]

But if you split up and modularize your project enough (scenes, resources) git can basically become like a live collab

[unique hill]

fr?

[wooden grail]

Everyone can work on the project on the same time

[unique hill]

honestly, I barely use github

[wooden grail]

Just in different scenes

[unique hill]

its more of like a backup system for me rather than a collab system

so I dont really know much abt it

[heady thorn]

Still zero chance to rollback anything

[wooden grail]

It is possible to work on the same scene, but then be prepared for merge conflicts and manually editing the .tscn files

[wooden grail]

Wut? With git??

[heady thorn]

With live coding

Sorry, I thought you were advocating live coding

[wooden grail]

Im gonna play devils advocate here and say this might be one of the problems 😅

[heady thorn]

We're on the same page, good git usage is essentially like live coding.

[wooden grail]

Nono im on the opposite side, even though I find live collab cool 😅

[unique hill]

lil bit yeah

[wooden grail]

Its like a fancy feature but I also think its not necessary

[heady thorn]

There's like a million other things I'd rather see in Godot before a live coding feature tbh

[unique hill]

we used to make minecraft servers

and when we were making mc servers

i had another friend on the team who was a programmer

and so me and him used to VSC live collab and code scripts for the servers

and I think those were some productive times

so I think godot, if it had something similar would be excellent

discord screenshare with vscode might work too but ehh i dunno

[heady thorn]

I disagree. It encourages terrible programming practices.

[unique hill]

how so?

[heady thorn]

Everyone editing the codebase at the same time is a receipe for disaster

[unique hill]

not as in everyone

theres only 2 programmers on the team

it'd be two people theoretically

[heady thorn]

For you.

[unique hill]

but if youre saying as in a large team with multiple programmers

then that is an issue and I agree 100% with you

but this is more of a feature for smaller teams im talking about

[heady thorn]

But it'd encourage others to abuse it and think it's a perfectly fine way to work. It's not.

[unique hill]

hmm ur right

It would still be cool though

for example

might not be a good example but for example

in our minecraft servers

we had me coding the backend

[heady thorn]

Cool for pair-programming, sure. But trust me, it'd lead to nothing but trouble,

[unique hill]

the next dude coding a separate backend which is unrelated to what im doing

and the rest of them building levels and maps

what im saying is more

a real-time level collaboration

[heady thorn]

This is what git branches are for.

[unique hill]

rather than real-time code collaboration

Real-time code collab would lead to disaster, yeah

[humble blaze]

I think coordinating with your team who needs to work on what and using Git for version control is the perfect workflow for any sized team

[unique hill]

but real-time level collaboration I feel would be cool

[unique hill]

Ill see if I can get all of them online at the same time to have them learn this

[heady thorn]

You're overestimating just how useful it is

[unique hill]

bc as I said we're all busy most of the time

[heady thorn]

I've 10+ years working with both small and large teams on codebases of various sizes and complexity and highly recommend using git over any live-coding solution in all situations.

[unique hill]

i agree

I've got to go now

cya

[unique hill]

maybe I am tbh

[wooden grail]

this 💯

[unborn vale]

Git is so useful

[wooden grail]

Git is one of the most useful programmers tools out there IMO

[unborn vale]

10/10 would commit again

[wooden grail]

10/10 would merge conflict again 🥲

But thats my fault 😔

Merge conflicts are often a sign of missing separation I think

[unique hill]

true that

[unborn vale]

10/10 would fetch again

[unique hill]

experiencing a merge conflict on a branch only you are using

[unborn vale]

3am commit names lol

[heady thorn]

Most often it's just a case of people making changes which have been merged to master, and you're pulling those changes into your branch in which you've also made changes to those files

[wooden grail]

Or any other branch which is the same as the one your working with

[heady thorn]

Sure, whatever you're attempting to merge

[unique hill]

the very next day

this wsa from 2 weeks ago

[unique hill]

door

dev map incase ur wondering

[unborn vale]

door indeed

[unique hill]

it opens and closes

[unborn vale]

Then it is even more of a door

[orchid abyss]

truly one of the doors to have ever doored

[wooden grail]

pllsss more glow and bloom!!

I can still see stuff 😝

[unique hill]

true

PA announcement system model

incase ur wondering what all that in the background is

ive got all evironment models in one scene

without materials tho

[orchid abyss]

indubitably

[unique hill]

i wanna see who guesses what this is

[unborn vale]

w h a t t h e f u c k

[unique hill]

cmon

[unique hill]

guess

Im adding it into the dev level with the only purpose to show how it looks with materials

[unborn vale]

Idk man

it... is interesting

[unique hill]

it is indeed

[unique hill]

have u given up

[unborn vale]

Yes

[unique hill]

its a tree

🌳

[unborn vale]

Oh how wonderful

[unique hill]

indeed

I spent too long on this shader

[unborn vale]

I was thinking tree cuz I would imagine that the planes would be alpha cut but then again I thought that it wouldn't look that bad

[unique hill]

leaves texture made by my friend (whos the lead texture artist)

[unborn vale]

(without the textures)

[unique hill]

inspirted by The Witness's leaves

[unique hill]

yeah

[unborn vale]

I really like the tree (when there is textures)

Also a nice outline shader

[unique hill]

im surprised at how good this looks

i wrote this shader a very long time ago

and didnt check how it looks with the new graphics until just now

[unique hill]

ty its from godotshaders

i dont know the math that goes into all that (the outline shader)

but the leaves shader made by me

[heady thorn]

Be sure to contribute back to the community 😉

[wooden grail]

its not that hard I think

[unique hill]

wh

[icy anchor]

Amazing tree model btw

[unique hill]

ty!

its the tree addon for blender + geometry nodes for the leaves

which is planes scattered about

then a texture and material in godot

[unique hill]

beep

[frail portal]

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[unique hill]

bap

[frail portal]

bop

[unique hill]

bep

[frail portal]

bip

[unique hill]

bup

[frail portal]

bxp

[unique hill]

bzp

[frail portal]

bqp

[unique hill]

bwp

[frail portal]

bnp

[unique hill]

boup

[frail portal]

biop

[unique hill]

boip

[frail portal]

buop

[wooden grail]

You okay guys?

[unique hill]

bup blop bleep

👍

[frail portal]

bop boop beep

[unique hill]

bup blap bop blip 🍞

[prisma shard]

starting to get Mirror's Edge vibes hmm

[unique hill]

mirrors edge has trees?

ive only ever seen 3 videos abt mirrors edge

probably 4

omg it has trees and it looks almost exactly like mine what the fuck

why is my game so similar to mirrors edge all of a sudden

the closer I look the more similarities I find

this is unsettling

[wooden grail]

😮

Holy

This pic looks incredible

Mirrors edge is fucking beautiful

[unique hill]

Ikr

damn now I feel my game would look too similar to mirrors edge and be deemed a copycat without anyone even seeing gameplay

i gotta change up some shit

[unique hill]

whats the story of mirrors edge

i googled it and nowhere near the story ive got

so thats a relief

[wooden grail]

No. Being similar to Mirrors edge isnt a problem if your game is good

People might want a new Mirrors Edge type game

[humble blaze]

Yeah I agree, it isnt similar to the point of detracting from the project

[unique hill]

ye but if some random dude just puts out a mirrors edge game with a slightly altered storyline that isnt really captivating

[humble blaze]

You could even retool it as a selling point for fans of Mirrors Edge

[unique hill]

it would either have to have perfect movement or some unique mechanic

• copyright

[unique hill]

this is hypotethical I should add

[unique hill]

wouldnt that raise legal issues

[humble blaze]

As long as youre not directly stealing from Mirrors Edge (which does not seem to be the case) you should be fine

It's okay to have your work be inspired

It can make for a good hook for those that were previous fans of Mirrors Edge or games like it

[unique hill]

im bothered by how similar it is

and just how little actual inspiration I took

[humble blaze]

If its in reference to this comment I wouldnt let it bother you too much. The tree seems to be the only thing visually similar and even then it's stylized differently compared to Mirrors Edge

[unique hill]

true

[wooden grail]

yep

[unique hill]

i didnt take inspiration for the tree

but what I did take inspiration for

[wooden grail]

Yes

[unique hill]

is the design of my cityscape

i was basing it off mirrors edge but modified with some cyberpunk aspects in it

but still mostly mirrors edge based

[wooden grail]

No need to make something 100%, its enough to make something GOOD

[unique hill]

I need to make it atleast 95%

I don't feel like releasing a demo that is just mid

If im releasing something im making sure that its the best that I can do

and I know very well im no where near that as yet

still trying to get everyone online to learn godot

so when they do that'll offload alot of stuff from me

[humble blaze]

Thats still fine man, I think everyone looks at other games for inspiration and amalgamates those ideas with their own history, culture and thoughts. Thats just the creative process and I think your product stands on its own.

[unique hill]

astonishing how far its come since its early prototype tbh

[humble blaze]

I dont know the inner workings of your team and how work is balanced on the project but getting everyone on that ASAP would be a good idea

[unique hill]

ill see how I can get the early concept video on youtube or sum

[unique hill]

its horribly unbalanced for now

but soon it will become more balanced

I still do things more than everyone else but mainly because

Project S-819 specifically

is my creation

so our work is like

someone comes up with a cool game idea

we make a quick concept

and if its good

that person is the lead of that game now

meaning some more of the load is on them for their game

so they work on what they want to work on better

well thats how its supposed to be

[humble blaze]

Ahh... I see

So out of everyone on the team, theres only a fraction (or I suppose just you right now) working on this project?

[unique hill]

currently everyone has contributed to the project

some more than others

like me and alpha (the lead texture artist of the team)

[humble blaze]

Do you guys have multiple programmers?

[unique hill]

yes

[iron shore]

wait rly?

[unique hill]

the other programmer is very not available because of irl stuff

and hes in england

so timezone issues as well

bc im in canada

theres like

a 6 hour difference

[iron shore]

isn't canada like really cold

[unique hill]

@sturdy void

[unique hill]

ye

we got maple syrup tho so that balances it out yeah

[unique hill]

im more of the front-end and slight backend programmer

[iron shore]

what is a maple syrup 🧐

[unique hill]

while kamino would do more backend

thats for minecraft servers atleast

he hasnt been available much for project s

but hes trying

[iron shore]

we don't have that here in the barbaric midwesr

[iron shore]

ooh what servers have yall made

[unique hill]

we had

TNPDupe which is our most memorable one and popular one by far

on Minehut

had to shut downtho

[iron shore]

i tried a bit of bungeecord and networking once but lost motivation

[humble blaze]

For your current situation I might look into developing some back end and designer tools to make the content aspects of the project a bit easier to implement

On my project I work on both the front-end and game content as well as my framework gd-cinder and all of its designer tools

Ever since I put my eggs into that basket I've been able to implement things a lot quicker and make more progress in less time

But ultimately I would really urge your folks to get on board and help out because this project seems to have a high bar to meet visually and it might end up taking forever if you are the only consistent participant in its development

[thin turret]

erm..

in the context of game dev what exactly does front end and back end mean

i can assume but I just wanna make sure

[sturdy void]

wut

[sturdy void]

same as it means in web dev or app development

frontend is the graphical interface, what the player interacts with

backend is the complex stuff that makes everything work

like movement or achievement systems are backend

frontend would be like rendering scripts

[humble blaze]

Yeah I think Kamino explained it better than I couldve

[unique hill]

bread

[sturdy void]

i know what project this is about but where did the 819 come from in the codename lmfao

[sturdy void]

i want to reiterate this is because im also a va for the game and as nether said, programming is hard cuz tz and we dont have a storyline or script completed yet lmao

so i can't do much for either role

[iron shore]

#1151311410882686996 tesitng

oh wow

[unique hill]

u do have the screenplay doc right

in there it shows the protagonist and it's a detail abt the protagonist

The 819

[unique hill]

^^^

Storyline is 5 percent done

Prob less

[unique hill]

for va u could do lil noises

like woahs and stuff

[prisma shard]

yes this exactly, combined with your futuristic cityscape background. but at the same time if your color palette is anything but pale whites with some color highlights you should be totally fine, since ME:C doesn't have a monopoly on scifi settings (just clean-white tokyo-cityscape inspired architecture and movement focused games)

plus you seem to be going for more of a line-art look so that should be sufficiently differentiating, especially if your gameplay is not overwhelmingly parkour related

otherwise you could end up competing with this guy: https://www.projectfeline.com

[wooden grail]

Is he still working on this?

[unique hill]

oh hey im actually following development on that game

its so cool what he did with unreal engine for the artstyle

but i dont think ill end up competing against him

[prisma shard]

as long as your game isn't a parkour simulator you'll be totally fine then. the cherry tree + scifi city combined just seemed very mirror's edge to me

but if that wasn't even your inspiration then no worries haha

[unique hill]

yeah cuz if it was parkour then I'd be fucked

Legal reasons yeah

[sturdy void]

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[unique hill]

ok man

[unique hill]

if it was a parkour game what would happen

[sturdy void]

i doubt much

because it wouldnt be a direct copy

[unique hill]

decided to make an unreal engine inspired dev texture

instead of the bright orange ones I had before

[sturdy void]

high quality dev texture >

[unique hill]

true

[unique hill]

reminder message that this thread exists

ill post an update eventually

[brisk pelican]

Yerr

Take ur time

[unique hill]

grime texture

👍

[brisk pelican]

Very nice

[unique hill]

made a water shader

im thinking of maybe flooding an interior so ill have an excuse to use thi

*use this

or maybe sewers as another way to use this

can also make waterfalls

[white current]

How do you make everything look so good and fitting bruh

[unique hill]

im a jack of all trades

but the 2 things im best at

is programming and 3d art

ive got no actual process to making things look good

im just winging it

change this change that

"this looks good"

and i keep it like that

[white current]

How did you make the water texture the way you did? I'm curious to how you usually go about things even if there's no real process

[unborn vale]

Are you using a UV texture right now?

[unique hill]

when I think of a new feature or idea, what I usually do is first think how I want it to work/look

then if I don't know where to start, i'd look for references

for the water specifically, I was going off of Source's water animations and looks

I used 2 normal maps

one scrolling down

the other scrolling left (or right I forgot)

and combining those gave me a ripple effect animation

then all is left to make it shiny, which was just a fresnel effect mixed with the other things

transparency is just the ALPHA value

[unique hill]

yeah, that way I can make waterfalls by scaling it weirdly

[unborn vale]

Very nice water indeed

[unique hill]

ty ty

id record a video to show you guys the animation of the water but im not at my pc rn

so uh

just imagine its moving fancily

[brisk pelican]

does it move?

[brisk pelican]

wait nvm ahahaha

[unique hill]

lol

[unique hill]

https://imgur.com/a/WHB6yrr

here ya go

water

first video of the game and its just water

[unborn vale]

It looks so much better with video

Good job

[unique hill]

ty :D

i doubt ill be posting much videos here

also look at that ram level

insane

100mb

[unborn vale]

Crazy indeed

Especially compared to what it was at first lol

[unique hill]

it was like 800mb b4 i did all those optimization things

crazy how my fps on default is now 70 rather than 24

actually I think I have lighting set to highest

so prob not default

[brisk pelican]

Worth

[icy anchor]

Glad to see the vid! And also, weird enough, i used to post a lot of videos of water in my game, like swimming in it, new VFX, etc, i guess water is just captivating thing to record

[unique hill]

wator

very cool

now I just needa make splashes

[humble blaze]

Finally! This looks incredible, love the character controller

[unborn vale]

wa'er

[unique hill]

ty! i made sure not to show much of anything tho

its some simple movement for the char controller

[unique hill]

very hq texture indeed

[gray spade]

very high quality indeed

[unique hill]

👍

[unique hill]

https://imgur.com/a/eXdNCdf

repost: new startup animation

repost bc last gif was messed up a lil bit

[gray spade]

Woah, wish i could make intros like these

Figured i'd better remove the "artist" role from myself haha

[unique hill]

lol

[unique hill]

did you actually 💀

ur name was green before

[gray spade]

Yep

I'm really not an artist, not sure why i've claimed this role in the first place

[unique hill]

oof

art takes time to perfect imo

maybe u just need practice if you want to be one

[gray spade]

It would surely be great if i could draw art for my games myself, but what i truly enjoy is programming 🙂

[unique hill]

same

its this weird love hate relationship isnt it

disgusting errors that make you rethink your life and then when it works you feel like a god

Im finishing up some of the other aspects of the player then ill make an actual level thats not just showcasing the environment but actually has gameplay

[unique hill]

wildly off topic but i remixed a song and wanted to know how people feel abt it

if its amazing then ill make some soundtracks for the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0oMmaMnL68

acutally i remixed 2 songs

[unique hill]

experimenting with GI

you can see it gets a bit purple where the red and blue intersect

[unborn vale]

That looks sick!

Godot really has come a long way

[unique hill]

ikr! and this is default settings (atleast what I have it set as in my game)

running at a smooth 75

will test on low in a moment

[unborn vale]

Is this built in?

Like default for godot?

[unique hill]

yep!

VoxelGIs

[unborn vale]

Godot needs to do some better marketing

[unique hill]

even on low settings its beautiful

not my fps only being boosted by 15 frames lmao

and heres highest

virtually no difference

that is a good thing for me

a very good thing

[unborn vale]

Tbh I can't really tell the difference between low and high

Might be more apparent when playing the game

[unborn vale]

@unique hill How have you made that debug menu?

[unique hill]

using the Engine and Performance classes in godot

extends RichTextLabel


# Called every frame. 'delta' is the elapsed time since the previous frame.
func _process(_delta):
    var debug_dict = {
        "FPS": Engine.get_frames_per_second(),
        "FPS Time": Performance.get_monitor(Performance.TIME_FPS),
        "Object Count": Performance.get_monitor(Performance.OBJECT_COUNT),
        "Node Count": Performance.get_monitor(Performance.OBJECT_NODE_COUNT),
        "Orphan Node Count": Performance.get_monitor(Performance.OBJECT_ORPHAN_NODE_COUNT),
        "Draw Calls": Performance.get_monitor(Performance.RENDER_TOTAL_DRAW_CALLS_IN_FRAME),
        "RAM": str(Performance.get_monitor(Performance.MEMORY_STATIC) / 1000000) + "mb" + " / " + str(Performance.get_monitor(Performance.MEMORY_STATIC_MAX) / 1000000) + "mb",
        "Used VRAM (Total)": str(Performance.get_monitor(Performance.RENDER_VIDEO_MEM_USED) / 1000000) + "mb",
        "Used VRAM (Textures)": str(Performance.get_monitor(Performance.RENDER_TEXTURE_MEM_USED) / 1000000) + "mb",
        "Used VRAM (Buffer)": str(Performance.get_monitor(Performance.RENDER_BUFFER_MEM_USED) / 1000000) + "mb"
    }
    var strin = ""
    for i in debug_dict:
        strin = strin + "\n[color=#53d7a7]" + i + "[/color]: " + str(debug_dict[i]) + ""
    text = strin

```here ya go

[unborn vale]

So me just copy paste?

Thanks lol!

[unique hill]

lol np

[unborn vale]

Colour aint working lol

[icy anchor]

RichTextLabel and use "bb_code" variable

Not "text"

[unborn vale]

oh bbcode

2 sec

Yep it works now, thanks ❤️

[unique hill]

beautiful but u should change the primary color to reflect the color of ur game

or logo

change it up a lil bit yk

[unborn vale]

It aint plagarism if you change a comma

Then it is constructive reimagined content

[unique hill]

💀

[unique hill]

https://imgur.com/a/nJkKbbY

changed up the trees a tad bit

also here you can see it's wavy animation

can be turned into bushes by scaling it down and just clipping it through the floor

[plush turtle]

Very beautiful, very powerful

I like the head tilt animations

[unique hill]

ty

[unique hill]

Project S-812

[icy anchor]

That guy is flipping numbers

Recorded in 4K HD quality

[unique hill]

💀 💀

does not have story implications whatsoever

[iron shore]

wha

i actually looked at the title and knew it was wrong

before coming in here

[unique hill]

lol

[unique hill]

beep

[plush turtle]

Boop

[unique hill]

bap

[plush turtle]

Babip

[unique hill]

blap

[plush turtle]

Blong

[unique hill]

bwuoah

[thin turret]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM

[plush turtle]

boowomp

(i really like this project and hope someday it will be a full game because it looks very pretty with its style)

[thin turret]

HELPPP!!!
(I just crashed into a family of 5 but this project is also really cool)

[plush turtle]

epic fail
(the only thing i dont really like is the filter on the camera or whatever it is cuz it looks like the lens are dirty but maybe thats intended idk i just dont like it)

[plush turtle]

(like here)

[unique hill]

(thank you)

[unique hill]

(thats very much intended, and there will be a story reason for it as well)

[unique hill]

ur boutta be sued

my man

[unique hill]

(I'm hoping to split this game into chapters, and release the first chapter sometime during early 2024)

[plush turtle]

HEELP
(my rotator cuffs hurt from hitting people )

[unique hill]

(if im releasing the first chapter im making sure that it has maximum effort into it, but as most of my team are not yet on our christmas break, we don't have much time to do stuff)

[plush turtle]

( makes sense since the first chapter will be what most people will see and decide on that if they wanna go for the next chapters or not )

[unique hill]

(i'm planning on releasing a very high quality slice of the game, with most of the features I'd like to be in the full game finished)

(I'd release the first chapter for free though, if it gains attention then other chapters would be released as DLC on steam or something like that for a few dollars)

(kinda what Bendy and the Ink Machine did at first)

(if it doesnt gain much attention i might just leave it sitting there as a project for another day, but I believe it will get mildly popular)

[thin turret]

I got respect for you taking so much time to ensure the vis dev looks nice

We need as much good looking and well presented godot projects we can get

[plush turtle]

🫡

yeah godot market is lacking in pretty looking games

[unique hill]

i agree

ive focused enough on the visuals so i'm moving over to the gameplay now

making sure to smoothen out as muchof the rough parts as I can

[thin turret]

Yippie

[unique hill]

ill have to remodel the sci-fi city tho bc its kinda ehh

[plush turtle]

i really like the city panorama

but if you make it better then go for it

[unique hill]

if anyone wants to, I can accept like maybe 3 persons to beta test whenever the chapter is almost finished

[plush turtle]

first

[icy anchor]

I need more of Cruelty Squad in my blood

[unique hill]

definitely can but im not that experienced with modelling buildings specifically

theres definitely more detail to be put, even though its far away models

the windows are flat and the advertisements on the side of the buildings are just solid colours

[plush turtle]

i was a minecraft builder for like 4 years i think

[unique hill]

so those would need to change

[unique hill]

we actually made minecraft servers before going into game dev

[thin turret]

Pick me mr nether plug

[unique hill]

ehh

na jk sure

Idk ill see abt beta testers whenever the game is ready for beta testing

however is there anyone here using a mac

[plush turtle]

and if i got any lessons in building design from doing it is to make it have depth, make it have unconventional shapes , use different materials and throw random shit at it

[unique hill]

project s literally just does not work at all on macos

and no one knows why

though I havent re-tested it since only 1 person has a mac on the team and that person usually isnt on said mac

[thin turret]

That’s weird

Unfortunately i don’t own a mac

[unique hill]

a max

[thin turret]

[unique hill]

[plush turtle]

run a virtual machine

[unique hill]

i'd like to test it on mac hardware though

rather than Acer hardware

[plush turtle]

true

[unique hill]

aint no way this just happened to me

i coded something revolving around one specific feature

I found a bug in that feature

now I fixed it and everything else is broken

length of the script file

😭

oh nvm everythings fixed now

[plush turtle]

🫡

[icy anchor]

Nice size bro!

All scripts under 1000 lines are pretty easy to work with

[wooden grail]

Me, who is kinda used to opening a window in Rust using certain crates being over 700 Lines, APPROVES

[unique hill]

this sentence can be easily taken out of context 💀

also ty!

[icy anchor]

BIG SCRIPTS

[unique hill]

💀

[wooden grail]

@unique hill will save this in his personal folder

[icy anchor]

"godot homework"

[unique hill]

na

[unique hill]

how yall reckon this phone model looks

back view

[icy anchor]

Looks great

I don't know why, but it reminds me of audio recorder i made a while back

[plush turtle]

kinda hard to see which side is front or back from a quick glance

but looks cool

[icy anchor]

Reflectivity and specular should do the trick in Godot. In this Blender scene environment reflection is way too uniform and it makes the screen glass to be less visible

[unique hill]

^

[unique hill]

https://imgur.com/IbxEhs6

rain!

I thought it would be funny to kill myself at the end of the video

i cut the video before the death animation played tho

I did what @crystal patio is doing with his game and tried to mimic source's rain particles for this one

now ull have to wonder why theres damage in the game

[crystal patio]

what am I doing that you did??

[unique hill]

oh sorry what?

It pinged the wrong person??

I tried to ping @icy anchor

[crystal patio]

hahahaah my games dont look nearly as good as that hahahaa

[unique hill]

thats so weird I didnt even notice because I had streamer mode on

[crystal patio]

np

[unique hill]

lmao sorry for pinging you 💀

[crystal patio]

really good lookign game tho!

[unique hill]

thank you thank you

sorry again

[unique hill]

darn discord obs detection

[icy anchor]

Woah, cool particles dude! I was wondering how to make it work if you have interiors to walk inside

[unique hill]

oh shit

thats a very good question

[icy anchor]

You won't believe how often i wanted to ping you and ALMOST pinged someone else

[unique hill]

ill have to do a source and just disable it when ur inside lmao

[unique hill]

💀

[crystal patio]

no tto but in, but didnt they say they are gettign a sollution for that in godot 4.2?!

[unique hill]

I pinged DuGringo on accident because I was using streamer mode as discord auto enabled it

[unique hill]

im not sure sure

I have many issues with particle collisions

so this rain particle doesnt use any

thats godot 4.2 dev6 btw

[crystal patio]

he specifically used exanple for a boat with water inside, that using this thing they will add wont have that problem anymore

[unique hill]

I didnt update my build yet

[crystal patio]

and showed a unity project that does that, no water int he boat

[unique hill]

hmm interesting

[crystal patio]

4.2 not out yet

[icy anchor]

In Source it was as a trigger func_precipation (maybe i mistaken in name) but basically the principle is... In their case, rain only works in that box their assign to. If is too far away, it get disabled. But i'm pretty sure there is... better ways because i used to HATE to work with it. Do you know that snowy-house secret in gm_liminal_space? It was hard to set up these triggers to avoid interior

[icy anchor]

My man is using in-dev versions! Respect!

[unique hill]

theres a snowy house secret?

I only ever found the abandoned desert house

and the liminal apartments

[icy anchor]

Desert house? I think you misremember it a little because i don't have any desert locations in there

[unique hill]

To be fair I never really focused on searching for them because that abandoned apartments (the parking lot one) was really aestethic

[crystal patio]

found it:

https://youtu.be/MW3IFMvDTCY?t=1641

[unique hill]

I can't remember exactly if it was a desert but I believe it was a house really deteriorated

[crystal patio]

current time, so click on link instead of title

[unique hill]

Definitely wasnt snow though

[crystal patio]

around 27:21 if you do click on link

if you don't*

[unique hill]

ooh thats interesting

[crystal patio]

promisse that was it, ill stop butting in now hahaha have a gretat day friends

[unique hill]

I'm not using a shader though

just built-in gpu particle system

[crystal patio]

no? 😮

woow

well nvm than AHAHAH

[unique hill]

all good, I have no problem with people joining the conversation

[unique hill]

id open gmod to show you but im not sure if it would work cause I have like 800 mods downloaded

let me try

[icy anchor]

There was one guy who recorded a video about that secret, i can send it instead

[unique hill]

ye do that

I believe I did misremember but im not sure

its been awhile since ive played gmod

[icy anchor]

https://youtu.be/WGVnIT6Phsk?si=byL9m42Rjas2u-hQ

If you checked this map right at the release date, there might be a chance you missed this one because it was added in update

[unique hill]

ohhh that was snow

I thought that was sand

tbf I did always have my settings super low on this map

just because of how laggy it was otherwise

maybe the particles didn't render or I missed it

[icy anchor]

I remember times when i didn't even have GT1030, i was playing this map with integrated GPU and... 60 fps. I had 40 fps on gm_construct back then. When i started to get occasional reports from players with good hardware about lags in this map, well, you can only imagine how much confusion it caused for me and how slowly it killed me inside because i had absolutely no clue why the hell that happens

What broken me completely is that gm_post_ussr was running with 60-90 fps on my current hardware, and my friend (as well as some other players too) said that he has 300 fps and he has 210 fps on gm_construct

[unique hill]

I cant remember exactly but I remember averaging 40-60 frames or so

on my normal settings I think

I still have that map downloaded actually

[icy anchor]

How?!

[unique hill]

unless it was taken down or something to that nature

[unique hill]

aw its not there anymore

[icy anchor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003051292

And yea, the gm_post_ussr i was talking about:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003051584

[unique hill]

yo thanks

[unique hill]

I do have a question

why do you take down your maps?

[icy anchor]

It was fun!

[unique hill]

fair

youve become a mysterious entity now have you, posting maps for a while then suddenly disappearing until the other map appears

[icy anchor]

Some people don't understand, some people think i went schizo, some people think i'm dead. And, probably, some other people understand why. I can't say that i regret anything because i started Garry's Mod mapping for the sake of learning more about level design and creation of environment props in a way i wanted to

gm_post_ussr is the map where all assets are made on my own, and it was a really, really valuable experience for me

[unique hill]

thats understandable

[icy anchor]

What i noticed so far that not really many people miss me and, most importantly, map developers overexaggerate the value of the maps and their statistics

[unique hill]

hmm, odd

people do also overexaggerate the value of something they made/upload as theres an attachment between them and the thing

[icy anchor]

I understand. But when they think that i'm mentally subnormal by removing "one of the most popular Garry's Mod maps," that feels weird for me because they had nothing in common with these maps, they didn't participate in their development, they didn't even play them, they just knew they existed and that's really all

In the end i just felt lonely amongst the community i made, feeling that i'm being ignored and so on

The only thing matters is the experience i've got and it is really useful for my current project, the project i've been dreaming about for about 8 years

[unique hill]

most people assume without knowing the facts, and I for one really liked the map and still do

I think its good what you did -- moving on to working on your game

your gmod time really brought amazing experience for you to utilize in the future

[icy anchor]

> and still do
Just know that Wayne Kerr (and some other people) reuploaded it as-is! I'm glad they did.

[unique hill]

and you are making beautiful work

can't wait to play your game honestly

[unique hill]

yep! Just subscribed to it and his reupload of post ussr

[icy anchor]

Glad to know!

[icy anchor]

Maybe, one day... I'll be able to upload 3358 game files to be played by someone...

[unique hill]

thats actually not much game files tbh

most games today have well over 10K

[unique hill]

this is astonishing

how does this game have 8.6K files

oh thats why

the .godot folder is insane

when you subtract its only 2.2K files so nevermind

[icy anchor]

I mean PCKs in this case, but yea

Sorry for russian, but it's 19.8 GB with 25.163 files and 1.032 folders

I thought 15.000 lines in modules will be enough

Everything went out of control

[unique hill]

Damn

id assume the game is quite finished for that amount of size

by quite finished I mean like 30% finished

this game isnt 10% finished i'd say

[icy anchor]

50% for sure, including all tools and assets

[unique hill]

I'd say ive gotten 5-7% finished

[icy anchor]

Maybe 60%, but i can't be sure

[unique hill]

if we're including tools and assets then solid 13%

maybe 15

[icy anchor]

For the amount of time you are working on the project (knowing the basics of the idea and file-count as well), it's fast

[unique hill]

I purposefully leave old prototype and testing ideas for people to find

most of those files probably arent actually in use

[unique hill]

Whats a good practice for assets? should I always save meshes as theyre on .res files or is that not needed

for example, the player mesh isnt saved as its own .res but its in a meshinstance node in the player scene

[icy anchor]

When my meshes cluttered the scene file size so hard i couldn't save it on my remote repository due to size limit, i just made some code to save it externally automatically

[icy anchor]

As long as it is comfortable to work with, it's all fine

[unique hill]

alrighty

I ask this because most of the assets I have arent actually saved as their own files

for example, the vent models seen in older screenshots are just saved as is their own scenes

then those scenes are combined together to form pre-made layouts I drag and drop onto rooftops

[icy anchor]

If you want example of my player controller scene, you can see it here

[unique hill]

thats extremely neat compared to mine

is the hud not a part of the player scene?

[icy anchor]

That happens quite often for me. For example particles most of times don't have their materials saved externally, but in scene file. And it works well too, no clutter, and etc

[icy anchor]

HUD, post-processing, legs, weapons, all of that stuff i initialize and control with code. That sounds like something crazy, but i got used to it and it gives me possibility to scale it up. Just subjective preference!

[unique hill]

should probably organize this

versions folder is just where I export the game to whenever I need to beta test with others

its not counted as an actual folder in the repo

[unique hill]

wow interesting

I dont think i'd need to really be able to scale up much of my game

the things that would need scaling up are there to be scaled

i have 3 separate triggerboxes for example

a normal triggerbox for player collision

it can be set to work with a specific node and carry out a specific function

then theres an interact triggerbox

works the same way but you interact with it instead

and another thats just a normal triggerbox but it triggers a background level load

for kinda seamless loading

[icy anchor]

I've seen quite a bunch of huge project on Unity that did same thing and they seem to be doing fine. I had it once too, but changed things

[icy anchor]

.gitignore our beloved!

[unique hill]

!

[icy anchor]

I'm doing that this way because i had FPS project in Unity and realized a lot about what i need to do and what causes issues. So far, i've got the best progress because i don't get stopped on basic issues like, for example, adding a new character model

[unique hill]

not me spending 30 minutes trying to add a gitignore to a file that was already set to not ignore

[unique hill]

I most definitely have to use the player code for a npc at some point

and i am avoiding thinking of that bc the player code isnt scalable at all

for context, the player code has features that I'd like a npc to have at some point to be almost an even atagonist to the player

[icy anchor]

Nice triggers! I think i have only LocationTrigger, LocationTriggerButton, LocationTriggerCube, LocationTriggerButton, DamageTrigger, ExitTrigger, and... Probably that's all. Half of that stuff is deprecated!

[unique hill]

creating things to never use our beloved

[icy anchor]

They all were used at certain point, but i realized that they are not fitting well

[unique hill]

reorganizing rn and found a folder I dont use at all

[icy anchor]

You know, that may happen. You write it on paper, you imagine it, it's all good. You make it, play it. It seems to be good. Time passes, you develop more, and realize it is just getting deprecated because there are better, flexible ways to do that which fit the game and... Here we are!

[unique hill]

I used to have the games art style based around spider verse

and those are remnants of that time

Im using it????

[icy anchor]

As you see!

[unique hill]

why am I using it on a glass bottle matieral

i havent placed a glass bottle prop in months

ill leave that there for ppl to find i guess

I am so grateful

and so thankful

that they fixed the

"move one folder and your entire project is corrupted" bug

in the dev build im using

[icy anchor]

I'm not even sure why, but i rarely had to move the folder and mainly i had to do that with Windows file explorer

[unique hill]

I revoke my previous statement

godot just crashed on me

[icy anchor]

I'm a bit conservative person, as i see

[unique hill]

I had ZERO idea what I was doing

when I first started this

infact this is my 3rd ever project in godot

first one was a test

2nd one was a prototype of this one

the difference between the prototype of this and what it is now is wild

[icy anchor]

It reminds me of my own path in certain ways

First project in Unity was Escaper v1.0.. All characters in this game consisted of cubes like in Minecraft, all weapons were generated procedurally out of weapon parts, it was kinda clunky

[unique hill]

if talking about my first experience of game dev

i'd have to say Scratch

its a solid place to build a foundation

even if youre 6 or 5 years old

id honestly not be here if it werent for scratch and minecraft

i did play around with unreal engine 4 I believe

when I had a very shitty laptop

[unique hill]

what colour would "textures" be

what does it feel like

Im leaning onto a blue colour but materials also feels quite blue

could make both blue

oh god

godot likes to play mindgames with me

clouds.tscn works fine

why must you do this blue robot application

[thin turret]

time to boycott godot :/ :/ :/

[icy anchor]

Gonna download it lol
Haven't visited the first export of it for a long time

[icy anchor]

I still need to recreate old Steam green color pallete

[icy anchor]

git reset!

[unique hill]

ive used steam blue for so long I cannot begin to comprehend the fact that steam was green

though it makes sense

it was steam greenlight

I think

Im not sure Ive never used the old steam

[icy anchor]

My very first one was probably about making Garry's Mod Lua addons and some maps. I abandoned it right after. After that i made a huge private addon with 10.000 lines of code, was deeply disappointed in it, abandoned it, and... Here is Unity 5.6.7f1 on weak PC!

[unique hill]

oof

[unique hill]

I think a huge part of leading me into game dev would be creating minecraft servers

none of them were ever amazing

but they were good and I was proud

still am for some

[icy anchor]

Done better than perfect, right?

[unique hill]

if I can find an old screenshot i'd send it here

heres one of the first ones I made

this was taken in like 2021 or so

[icy anchor]

Looks great!

[icy anchor]

Still trying to get Escaper v1.0. screenshot and i still can't get it, probably gonna get really old one

[unique hill]

the jump in production quality we had made in just a year was truely astonishing

but then Minehut fucked us over and we had to shut down

very sad

I think I still have the files for TNPDupe

somewhere

anyways that was a very far turn off topic

[icy anchor]

Damn, i launched Escaper v1.0. and my PC had a stroke

But i got the images i wanted to send all this time

Honestly it could become a released game, but it was impossible to maintain it, so i abandoned and changed the concept entirely

[icy anchor]

By the way, what happened? It sounds like you guys were violently taken down

For... any reason, i'm still not sure why would anyone take servers that seriously

[unique hill]

it wasnt violent, just a series of unfortunate events

what happened was

we were very successful at first, but with the growing numbers of "dupe" servers, we needed to stand out

so we decided to hop on the backrooms trend

and attempt to develop a backrooms-like area

but soon enough we fell down a rabbit hole of "would our community be angry to wait so long for this?"

eventually we did release but by the time we did, most of our community moved on

we thrived for a little bit in that season, which was season 3

then we went back down for season 4, where we fell down the same rabbit hole but ended up becoming too ambitious

I, myself specifically fell down that rabbit hole much more as I was the owner and lead programmer of said server

at the time I was still learning new concepts in java and decided it was a beautiful idea to code an entire custom dimension

long story short, got too ambitious

ended up releasing a decent season but I wasn't proud

shortly after Minehut began to raise the already high prices they had

and their services were becoming worse overtime with the features we had and with their own issues at their warehouse

eventually we had to completely shut down due to lack of funds and players

right before minehut came out with their most controversial pricing change

which was subscription-based ranks

if we were planning on using minehut for another server

that right there put us in the ground for good

we did try to use Minefort (a separate host) to make a server but their community wasnt as large as minehut, and so that failed as well

[icy anchor]

Damn, i thought that making servers isn't that great thing to do, but i didn't even think it may be so bad for Minecraft.

[unique hill]

It was a great thing, if only we had proper funding

[icy anchor]

I did commission works for Garry's Mod servers which needed maps for their needs, and usually all of them had same issue - they didn't deliver content for people fast enough. All of them are dead, for many reasons

[unique hill]

we were using server hosts designed as free server hosts

and so we were never able to get many resources allocated for us specifically

i'm looking into VPN hosts, actually. As we still plan to make servers

with our newfound experience in game dev, we can use some of the skills we've gained since TNPDupe to create something truly special to us

and the music I make now doesn't sound like a jumbled mess of notes anymore

[unique hill]

Damn

It would've worked for us if I didn't get too ambitious and if we all had similar skills

by similar skills, I mean theres only 2 programmers on the team

3 artists and 2 musicians

(that was then)

theres 3 programmers 5 artists and 3 musicians on the team now

dont be fooled tho, its not 11 members

its 5-6 of us with multiple skills per person

[icy anchor]

Well, i hope you'll have a better luck with the next Minecraft server!

[unique hill]

ty!

[icy anchor]

I'm absolutely not sure how all this stuff works, so i can't tell much.

[unique hill]

one way it works is that we need to secure a server host before we start developing

[icy anchor]

I had really negative experience with Garry's Mod servers and it was like a dead place. I don't think same applies to Minecraft, but i have really low expectations

[unique hill]

as none of us have any machines capable to run a minecraft server, either that or the person is unfamiliar with the backend

im the main backend guy, with @sturdy void being the other

most of us are in north america so we can't connect to kami's server with our 200 ms ping

because he's in england

[unique hill]

there are some really good minecraft servers that don't get the attention they deserve, same with garry's mod

but recently with minecraft

there are more and more unique servers coming up the ladder

MCCI (Minecraft Championships Island) is one of those

a very good one

insane the amount of effort that team puts behind their server

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1zWQoitig

all of that gameplay footage is minecraft, not any 3d render or similar

[icy anchor]

I feel like the Minecraft servers entered the trope of senseless pursuit that i noticed in Garry's Mod servers. Generally, Garry's Mod servers always were attempting to use Source in ways it wasn't designed to, because they wanted to push through the limits. In fact, they could make a fun server without doing too much of a stuff, but instead they just were overcomplicating everything. Damn, in rp_praetorian_cygnus, i had to make navigation mesh for 52 hours straight, for nextbots they barely used. And the more i look, the more i notice it all around game-dev related stuff. Even i do a lot of overcomplication, Escaper v1.0. had only like 4000 lines of code, but it had a lot more than i would even expect. Is it bad in my opinion? It's not bad if you accept failures as-is and if you enjoyed the development process itself. And i see you enjoyed it!

[unique hill]

maybe, but it seems as if people play the unique thing more

at the end of the day, the simple and fun games still get the most players

just look at hypixel: bedwars has had 5-8K players consecutive every day since its additin

however skyblock has 32K players and skyblock isnt simple so 🤷

hypixel's skyblock, that is

its a MMO RPG in minecraft

makes sense why it has 32K players

[icy anchor]

That is also a thing i noticed lately. I tried to analyze what makes it good, what makes it bad, and, you know what? It's just a fucking lottery.

[unique hill]

its not a lottery if you have a high quality product

and release it at the right time

but the issue is to know when that right time is

[icy anchor]

If i will ever release my game, and if it will fail, i'm going to be extremely thankful for making it to release

[unique hill]

TNPDupe gained immense popularity I think because of many reasons

but specifically one

i had worked on a previous dupe server, as head developer

that owner became kind of corrupt to put it simply without detail

so I left the server and took my code that I had written for the server

i wouldnt take my code just like that, there was a large disagreement in regards to how they treated us

@sturdy void was also a developer with me on that server and took his code as well

that owner never appreciated us

but he never knew just truly how much work we did for him

when we took only the files we made

their entire server stopped working

so there was a big gap in the dupe market

that I filled

i think that same dude ended up switching personalities very quickly

was a nice learning experience for him to appreciate his staff

im being purposefully vague as I dont want to single anyone out

[unique hill]

I believe your game would be a great success

there hasnt been (to my knowledge) any great godot fps games recently

[icy anchor]

Team communication seems to be such a hell for most of times ._.

[unique hill]

love it when it works

hate it when someone threatens you and assumes you can't do anything about it

that is what they did btw

organizationnnnnnnnnnn

[icy anchor]

Something like that happened in my previous team

[icy anchor]

Lovely colors

[unique hill]

still got some work on it

[icy anchor]

Cruelty Squad is the only one in my mind now. Road To Vostok still doing the porting. Leaden Sky that is shared here still in development too

[unique hill]

completely forgot about those

[icy anchor]

At this point i'm just going to be happy to see my dream come true, that one weird dream i've got when i was 12 year old kid

[unique hill]

:D

mustve been a vivid dream to be able to turn it into a game

[icy anchor]

Probably!

It's so damn weird to think about how much time it takes to this point, but anyway, i guess it should be this way

[unique hill]

how long has it been in development?

[unique hill]

also youre not going to take this one down after releasing are ya? 💀

[icy anchor]

The current one? Started as Godot playground at May 2022, with no intention to even use Godot for full-sized game. Development as a whole started at August 2022, when i actually decided to make a shooter, and i wanted to make a much simpler one. But the more i worked, the more i realized that i can do more and... Here we are, down this deep rabbit hole

[unique hill]

i think I just broke all the UI elements

[icy anchor]

GameJolt page wasn't a serious thing. Garry's Mod maps are not a serious thing either. Commercial products, on other hand, way more serious in all ways, so i guess i can't

[unique hill]

oh wow

[unique hill]

amazing

[icy anchor]

When production environment goes down because of interns/juniors mistake, usually this is a problem of the higher-ends who are responsible for setting up a production environment. Valve didn't take Steam Workshop seriously, to the point they given that big, juicy red button for users to use. Do you think they will allow me seriously remove the product without contacting them directly and telling exact reason why? I've rarely seen cases when products were removed like that, more than that, i know only one case: GTA trilogy. And even in this case, those who bought the original trilogy, still have these games in their libraries so they were not removed

[unique hill]

If given the opportunity, with no barriers, would you voluntarily remove said game from steam

if for example it reached to the level of popularity as your gmod maps

[icy anchor]

If i'll face consequences, lawsuits, or other shit like that - sorry, this is not a way, plus i'm going to feel bad if people paid for the product they lose as result

[icy anchor]

Popularity of my maps was fake for the most part and it can be clearly seen in statistics of Wayne's addons

[unique hill]

huh?

im not quite sure how steam workshop works in regards to statistics

[icy anchor]

Earlier - almost 200.000 subs on gm_liminal_space. Now? 10.000. Barely a percent of people who actually needed it

[unique hill]

omg im going to commit a murder

Ahhh okay

[unique hill]

dont know what im going to do about this

jesus christ

[icy anchor]

Also, what did they do to that fancy dependencies window? Earlier you could fix dependencies

Or it is a special one i've never managed to see

[unique hill]

they updated it I think

I may know the cause of the broken menus

[icy anchor]

I hope just in case you can reset these files

Or download them from GitHub, i've got my fire textures broken and i just downloaded them from certain commit

[unique hill]

three things those scenes have in common

they all used one specific shader at a point in time

a shader I just deleted

I dont know if theres remnants of the shader in the tscn files

so im inspecting

[icy anchor]

I feel like they literally downgraded the dependencies window

In Godot 3, even if you missing something, you can open that scene ignoring the error or after fixing it by redirecting the path to dependency

[unique hill]

WHAT

[icy anchor]

I mean, don't get me wrong, Godot 4 is better than Godot 3 in many ways, but this thing doesn't look right

[icy anchor]

If you want, i can just show you, one second

[unique hill]

AH

[icy anchor]

Gotta open the project and replicate

[unique hill]

I think the .import file for the main menu got fucked somehow

any idea how to fix?

Because I don't

I may just delete all import files and see what happens

I deleted the entire .godot file

folder*

[icy anchor]

That's what i mean, you can just ignore it and still be able to open the scene

[icy anchor]

If you have recent commits, just discarding the changes in these files

[unique hill]

wtf did they do to the error message

[icy anchor]

I have a guess

[unique hill]

thats so astonishing bro