#Return my multi-pass

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rotund atlas
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Last night a certain moderator removed my multi pass after I posted a picture of a plush of Cirno, the ice fairy from the popular videogame series touhou project, manufactured by japanese company Gift.

I think this removal was an overstep, as other moderators had never seen issue with similar things, even when they were active in chat.

trim pawn
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as other moderators had never seen issue with similar things
I can assure you they have

rotund atlas
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but anyways, you are free to do what you want, but it reflects badly on godot itself

steep elk
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IMO making a public thread over a mod decision is super poor taste. This should have been a DM conversation. Everyone can see this.

rotund atlas
steep elk
rotund atlas
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and yeah I don't agree with the decision, that's why I'm trying to get it reversed

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I don't think me or anyone else should have been subject to such decision

steep elk
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That's fine. Keep it private. Don't drag the mods through the streets. That's the problem here.

rotund atlas
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I don't understand anything you mean, I don't see what's wrong

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I don't see why I should keep it private since it's not a personal thing

steep elk
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Imagine you're at work, and one of your coworkers had their coffee priveleges revokes for spending too much time in the breakroom. Instead of going to their boss's office to talk about it, they instead send a company-wide email to everyone and making a show of it. Would that not be super uncomfortable?

rotund atlas
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this is not a company wide email though

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this is a specific forum to discuss community woes

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the equivalent would be me complaining in an HR mailing list

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which would be fair

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I will remove my mention of the moderator's name if that makes you feel better

steep elk
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Whatever man, I'm not the one embarrassing myself.

rotund atlas
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but the point is the same

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I am not embarrassing myself

plush ermine
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imo arguing with a mod is cringe

zenith lava
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Sorry for not attending to this before.

Firstly, to answer Seab's point: discussing mod decisions can be done in DMs, specially if the subject is heated, to avoid embarking the server in controversies that do nothing else but increase negativity.

But there's nothing inherently wrong with doing it publicly! We pride ourselves on being as transparent as possible, and discussing things publicly increases understanding for everyone who's interested, and allows a variety of point of views. As long as it isn't inviting sealioning or in-passing opinions, then it's all good.

Arguing with a mod is also not cringe, we're just people, we make mistakes, and we act mostly upon our best subjective judgement, which isn't necessarily the best. Just do it in the appropriate channels (not in the help or discussions where it's spam; here is completely fine).

Finally, regarding answering requests in general: do not answer around the question, please. Opinions about the subject take the subject astray, and in the ~ 50 lines here, there's 0% progress on the posed problem by the OP as a result. Please keep to topic.

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To get back to the topic:

The multi-pass role is predicated on:

  1. only posting your work, something you agreed to when you got the role
  2. posting in moderation (not flooding)
  3. current acting mod's best judgement

We understand posting things of your own life, or an article you're interested in, or other similar "not your own work" things are part of just normal discussion, which is why we don't instaban as soon as someone posts something external.

We do frown upon it when:

  1. the "not my own work" posting is too frequent
  2. the permission is abused with frequent postings of images, which disrupt conversations. That is even if you post your own work
  3. posting potentially inflammatory things that may trigger tense conversations; this is doubly true if the posting comes out of nowhere, and isn't part of an already ongoing conversation, and could be construed as creating flames willingly
  4. posting sexually suggestive images, and generally images that would be considered not PG-13. Plausible deniability does not work on us either; it's not "nudity" that is a problem.
  5. posting invitations to shit on someone, such as a tweet or public post by someone (exceptions for billionaires and politicians, who are fair game)
  6. selfies. We do not encourage people to post their own likeness on social media, nor to doxx themselves
  7. recurrence of the above; if you often straddle the line, then any seemingly innocuous image (in isolation) can be construed as one too much (in aggregate). We keep track of everything, so when a user is banned/role removed/etc, it's never or rarely because of one offense.
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There may be infinity point between 6 and 7, because it's not possible to capture in text all the potential nuances, and judgement is in the end reserved to the bias of the acting mod. But those should summarize at least the most relevant reasons.

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For your particular case: you have frequently posted images that are not your own work, posted selfies, etc.
As a consequence, your role has been removed.
Your role can be reinstated, as it has for other members, upon claiming that you understand you have that privilege to post your own work and progress, and that you will stick to that.