Children shouldn’t be staff for stuff that involves real life adult money.

[tulip panther]

like..?

[silver nest]

Disputes involving real money can easily be handled by minors.
What's the difference between an 18/19 year old handling a transaction dispute and a 15 or 16 year old?
Exactly - nothing. As long as a potential candidate is thoroughly vetted and assessed on personality, either party can handle transaction disputes just fine so long as money never flows through the transaction arbiter.

[hollow mural]

Because a 15 year old is a freshman in high school

Who has 0 concept on how money is and how it’s obtained in the real world

Same with a 16 year old

How is a 15 year old gonna decide if my money goes to someone but not know how hard it is to earn money in real life

[silver nest]

Exactly. Anyone around the age of 13 has experienced how money works, easily knows how to use money.
The value of money may be disputed from person to person and currency to currency, but at the end of the day; a transaction arbiter's only job is ensuring that a worker is paid and the client gets the item they paid for.

[hollow mural]

Kids are to busy in school clearly as well

And I stand by my claim

A child who is 15 has 0 understanding how money works

[silver nest]

Not necessarily. Most people at around 14 or 15 will have a side hustle to earn money. How else are they funding their daily dose of chips? Not parent's money unless parents aren't teaching their kids the value of money and making their kids work for it.

[hollow mural]

Definitely parents money 💀

[silver nest]

This is a flawed statement. Can you back this up with research?

[hollow mural]

Parents aren’t teaching their kids the value of money

[hollow mural]

Are you a teenager

By chance

I’d rather discuss this with someone who is actually an adult

[silver nest]

I'm 21 and I've known the value of money since 13-ish when I got my first job.

[hollow mural]

I don’t believe u

Can u dispute my claim with research

[silver nest]

You don't have to believe me.

[hollow mural]

Not even a retail store lets 16 year olds handle money

[tulip panther]

I stand with altera’s statements, as a 14 year old, I have plenty of experience with money, having worked plenty of jobs and making thousands of dollar in the span of months as a 3D modeler

[hollow mural]

You’re 14 so I can’t argue with you on this

You’re inherently bias

Nor do you understand where I’m coming from

[silver nest]

Ok, and? A 14/15/16 year old is allowed to work in a retail store to earn money. By spending that money, the child learns the value of the money.

[hollow mural]

Would you say the staff that handles money does that?

[tulip panther]

Though, what is this thread even about? What part of staff has any correlation with money?

[silver nest]

This is your suggestion. The ball is in your court to come up with research supporting that the average 14/15 year old doesn't know the value of money.

[hollow mural]

We can have research. Go ask the staff that handles money that’s 15,16 if they work a real life job

I guarantee over half don’t

[silver nest]

That's my point. Transaction arbiters don't touch the money in any way. Their sole job is making sure that the transaction is fulfilled on both sides.

[hollow mural]

Scam investigators

[silver nest]

And you think that you or your client will have to send them money in the event of some kind of transaction dispute? Hell no. That's not happening.

[hollow mural]

No my money is being held hostage

[silver nest]

By?

[hollow mural]

And a child told me “why don’t you just keep what they made?” There’s a whole dispute with clear evidence and this kid says “why don’t you just keep what eh made” said he’d review it and never did

[hollow mural]

An animator here

Derl

Whatever his name is

[tulip panther]

How do they get involved with real life money?

They just settle the argument in case of a scam

[hollow mural]

Because it involves real life money why are u asking this

[silver nest]

Ok, well, that's not the transaction arbiter's responsibility.
Their responsibility would be to make sure the animator sends you what you paid for, or ban the animator if they don't.

[hollow mural]

No that’s the scam investigators responsibility to get my money back

[silver nest]

That is not, in any way, their responsibility.

[tulip panther]

They don't claim the money to themselves or anything

[hollow mural]

Clearly this kid is not capable to their commitments

[hollow mural]

Ok you’re not understanding what I’m saying so lemme talk to the adult

[hollow mural]

Yes it is

They are determining if the “scammer” should return the money or not

The animator didn’t make what I asked and then said he got hijacked and when I opened a dispute all of it came back suddenly

[tulip panther]

Why are you glorifying yourself for being an adult?

[hollow mural]

How is this even a dispute the dude ghosted me for weeks

[hollow mural]

I’m not but a 14 year old can’t understand anything I’m arguing against

[tulip panther]

How does being a minor not allow me to state some arguments in this thread?

[silver nest]

It is not.
From what I've read on here, the only responsibility that transaction arbiters have here is to make sure that a transaction goes through properly.

From your specific case, that means that the transaction arbiter makes sure that you get the animations that you paid for, and that the animator gets the money that the animator is owed.

The transaction arbiter does not hold your money themselves. The transaction arbiter can not, and will not refund you. Even if the animator is banned for scamming you.

[hollow mural]

You just got out of middle school

[tulip panther]

Does that make me unintelligent?

[hollow mural]

I wouldn’t call you dumb but I’d say you have only just completed middle school so

Take that as you will

[hollow mural]

A transaction that involves.. money?

[silver nest]

Yes, and? The transaction arbiter only enforces the terms of the transaction without getting involved financially. The transaction arbiter is a third party to the transaction.

[tulip panther]

I doubt school is related to this whatsoever. Where i'm from theres absolutely no economic studies, so school shouldn't be engaged in this conversation, or my age, I have a good understanding of how money works, especially around this server

[hollow mural]

Ok but this isn’t about middle man

[hollow mural]

Ok and I disagree with that but I’m not gonna argue with a 14 year old kid

[silver nest]

Transaction arbiters are third parties whether as a transaction arbiter or as a middleman.
Either way, neither hold your funds and neither can make the animator refund you. Only the payment processor that you used can. So if you want to force a refund from the animator, then contact your payment processor.

[hollow mural]

When I was 14 I said I could take Conor mcgregor ina. Fight because I did mma

[hollow mural]

No scam investigator

I want my money back and this guy told me “why u not just take what he gave you”

PayPal will shut this guys account down and I don’t really want that to happen. He’s a real dev but again he ghosted me made up a BS story and never gave me anything because he ghosted me I moved on and he only cared til I made a PayPal dispute

Scam investigator (a child) says “why don’t you just take what he made you??”

[silver nest]

You can only get your money back by forcing a refund from the animator by contacting the payment processor. A "scam investigator" can not force a refund. If the animator does not want to refund you, your only option is to contact the payment processor.

That being said, you were supposedly given what you paid for. That means that you aren't entitled to a refund anymore unless what you received significantly differs from what you asked for.

[hollow mural]

No I wasn’t given anything

[hollow mural]

I wasn’t given anything

[silver nest]

So if the transaction arbiter believes that you received something, but you didn't, then show that to the transaction arbiter to move forward in your report.

[tulip panther]

If you have a problem against a specific staff member, you can make a Staff Report Ticket by running the /ticket command in #cmds or in Bot DMs

A scam investigator analyzes evidence, not manages money, so their effectiveness isn't limited by age

[hollow mural]

Please I don’t have time to wait 59 years over roblox drama unless it’s about scam accusations towards me. One staff said I stole $10 from his mom

[tulip panther]

Age doesn't determine one's ability to investigate scams

[hollow mural]

That’s the thing is they didn’t even do that

[hollow mural]

Oh it absolutely does

I wouldn’t call a 14 yr old mature

Or capable of handling any sort of investigation outside their school drama club

[silver nest]

My argument. Age doesn't mean anything, personality does.

[tulip panther]

I would call myself pretty mature, professional wise

[hollow mural]

So you’d hire a 12 year old

[tulip panther]

I have been hired since I was 12 years old

Your point?

[hollow mural]

You’re saying if they’re “mature” enough they should be allowed on the staff

[hollow mural]

Oh brother that was a joke

They actually do that?

[tulip panther]

Staff is 15+, and yes, if they're mature, they should be allowed, the application is VERY strict

[silver nest]

I'd hire a 12 year old if and only if I assessed him or her positively.
That being said, I have to disclaim that you have to be 13 or over to be on Discord, so I'd ban that person from my server(s).

[hollow mural]

Oh my goodness 💀

How low would you go

10? 9?

If they’re mature

Or if they’re a really gifted kid)

[tulip panther]

As long as they posses the skill I'm looking for

[hollow mural]

You’d hire them?

[tulip panther]

And a specific level of maturity

[silver nest]

I think I'd draw the line at 13 to ensure basic communication skills are actually taught and the person had the chance to develop skills.

[hollow mural]

Bro stop you’re 14 you are younger than my youngest sister I can’t argue with you on any of this. That guy on the other hand is 21

[tulip panther]

Lol why are you bringing age into this

So much

[hollow mural]

Ok see there’s a boundary

[hollow mural]

You just said you’d hire a 9 year old if they possess the skill you want

My boundary would be 17+ on money handling

16 you can argue but anything under hell
No

[tulip panther]

Age doesn't determine the validity of an argument

Logic and facts do

[hollow mural]

Yes itnfoes

[hollow mural]

Go find logic and facts on why you’d hire a 9 year old kid to do your work

[tulip panther]

Dismissing me based on age instead of addressing some points is just proving you don't have a real counterargument

[hollow mural]

I asked you to find logic and facts on why you’d hire a 9 year old child

If you can’t do that then don’t respond

[silver nest]

Correct, but not an outrageously high boundary such as 18. From 13 on wards, it can be reasonably assumed that one has accumulated enough social skills and maturity to be able to be a transaction arbiter or even take up commissions in this server.
Those who don't (and there are a lot of those too), they will simply be assessed negatively and not be hired. It's a filtering process. I can't justify 18 as a hard requirement because 13 (being quite young) is usually already enough time to develop all these skills.

[hollow mural]

Well you made a fair argument and I think my pov also makes a fair argument

I went through a situation that shows why I feel the way I do

[tulip panther]

I stated the requirements above

[hollow mural]

However NINE years old

[tulip panther]

A level of maturity and knowledge in a specific field

[hollow mural]

What about 8 years old

How low does it go for u

[tulip panther]

It might've been an exaggeration, you're right

But 12 years old is honestly my boundary

[hollow mural]

You say that now 💀

[tulip panther]

This is unrelated to your thread though

[hollow mural]

12 year olds need to socialize and go outside

You’re morally wrong

[tulip panther]

You made a thread for complaining about a staff member

Just make a ticket

[silver nest]

I don't think that you've made a fair argument.
Your argument just boils down to the fact that "children can't handle money" which is blatantly false.

[hollow mural]

If you can make a survey with your own staff that discredits me by proving at least over half of them have real life money experience

Then be my guest

However until then I think hardly any of them do

[tulip panther]

Most of them have jobs, if not IRL, they have a skill of sorts

E.g. scripting, modeling or building

[hollow mural]

Ok go and find a 13 yr old who can do that

[tulip panther]

As I mentioned previously, I've made thousands of dollars during my small career

Starting even at 9 years old

[hollow mural]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[tulip panther]

Do what?

Modeling?

I've been modeling for wayy longer than since I was 13

[hollow mural]

Go find one that can scoot

Script

[tulip panther]

Plenty of people can script

That are 13

[hollow mural]

Go find 1

[tulip panther]

Whats your point

I just turned 14 and I'm a 3d modeler

[hollow mural]

I’m saying you’re saying things that aren’t true

[tulip panther]

Is 3d modeling not a skill?

[hollow mural]

Just turned 14?

[tulip panther]

Oh its very true

[tulip panther]

Yes like 2 months ago

[hollow mural]

Are you a 2011 baby 💀

[tulip panther]

I am not

Don't see how this changes anything though

[hollow mural]

Sorry December 31st 2010

It does change it I personally just can’t take u seriously

[tulip panther]

How can anyone take YOU seriously when all you do is joke around about age and the year I was born

[silver nest]

https://www.betterfinancialeducation.com/what-percent-of-teens-have-opened-a-bank-account/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[hollow mural]

I wasn’t joking

[tulip panther]

I just gave you plenty of arguments on why minors can handle money

[hollow mural]

How many of these people consist of your staff?

[tulip panther]

I've been handling money for 2 years now, having worked with games like Tower of Misery, Cake off and Pls Judge

[silver nest]

I don't have to interview my staff about it.

[hollow mural]

Well sure you do

This is about your staff not the population of a country

[tulip panther]

Dude

[hollow mural]

I can make loads of points that contribute to the population

[tulip panther]

They all have skills

and knowledge in the roblox development field

They didn't get accepted for no reason

You're clearly new and have no clue on how hidden devs works

[silver nest]

I'm not going to bother my staff just because of your suggestion.
At least half of the kids population have access to bank accounts and can handle their money mostly independently or supervised.

[tulip panther]

Also, talk about maturity, "BigBootyDestroyer69"

[hollow mural]

And biologically kids 12-16 are more immature and reckless than the rest of the population

Your point means nothing

[tulip panther]

And also biologically, some children are more developed!

[hollow mural]

Exactly my point

You can’t make a claim based on the population not the group it’s targeted towards

Anyways

Back to adults

[tulip panther]

And my point is that staff is hand-picked from thousands of applications

They aren't some random kids

[hollow mural]

You can argue but this isn’t getting anywhere altera

If you can’t prove your staff at least half don’t have an understanding of real money then you can’t make the claim

You just agreed with my point unknowingly

[silver nest]

Not letting ANY kids become a transaction arbiter because a lot of kids can't handle money is unfair.
Additionally, transaction arbiters never lay their hands on money when handling transaction disputes.
Therefore, I don't see an issue letting kids handle these disputes so long as they are assessed positively in terms of character and they make judgements based on facts.

@tulip panther, I think we should quit talking to this individual. We've made our points.

[hollow mural]

You agreeing with a kid more than half your age that said they’d hire a 9 year old says all it needs to say

[tulip panther]

I agree—age shouldn't be a barrier if the individual is capable, responsible, and makes decisions based on facts. Handling disputes doesn’t involve direct control over money, just logical judgment.

[hollow mural]

https://tenor.com/view/gavel-case-dismissed-simpsons-gif-11209658

[tulip panther]

I just said that I wouldn't hire a 9 year old

This is off the topic though

We're talking about staff

[silver nest]

Excellent. @hollow mural, I bid you a good day ahead. @tulip panther, I suggest you do the same.

[hollow mural]

Thank you, you to.

No more 9 year old hires😅

[tulip panther]

too*

Mr. adult that has a lot of knowledge

But essentially can't see the difference between to and too

[hollow mural]

You continuing proves you’re immature

14 year olds amirite

https://tenor.com/view/gavel-case-dismissed-simpsons-gif-11209658

[gusty bronze]

can someone tldr

[hollow mural]

Tl;dr dumb argument that went on to long

[gusty bronze]

judging solely off the suggestion and not the messages since then,

who cares what age staff members are as long as they meet discord’s age req?
Hidden devs is in no way shape or form an authority when it comes to monetary disputes. Sure, we can investigate both sides of a story and ban an offender from this server, but other than that the responsibility of ensuring who/what you send money to is entirely your responsibility and duty.

Most cases presented to us by the community are very cut and dry. More complex and sensitive things are forwarded to senior staff members who typically are older. But again, someone’s inability to properly vet where they are sending their money is their responsibility. The age of HD staff in determining your case has zero bearing

[tulip panther]

Legit what we said

But SOMEONE just doesn't wanna understand that 💔

Because apparently children don't know anything about money

As if they're even involved in it

[silver nest]

.

[rugged pulsar]

Ban whoever made this suggestion

[hazy prawn]

Unfortunately, some teenagers know more on money than their own parents.. This all comes down to the actual person, not their age. I'd agree if a staff was 8, but that's just against ToS and clearly didn't happen here

[static rapids]

A lot of people who do commissions are between 13-18, would they not know how to handle the money they receive?

If you are such a grown adult, then you should be able handle your own disputes, and shouldn’t be complaining about this in the first place.

Were you yourself not competent at all when you were at this age? If not you’re projecting.

[supple oxide]

I disagree tbh
Theres some children who make more money than their own parents
Personally im 15 and i like to do ui as a passion and i get commissions to get money, instead of working at some place i dont like

[marsh dew]

i agree and some parents teach there kids how hard it is to get money and to consept of it from an early age just like my parents do with me

[inner sparrow]

legit brainrot suggestion

[supple oxide]

Fr

[wet oar]

Who else but children are going to be slaves on discord?

You aren't thinking about this fully

[hollow mural]

True my bad

[junior latch]

I rarely make it a point to comment on suggestions but this is related to Scam Investigation so I think my insight would be valuable. The Scam Investigation department is in no shape or form any sort of authority figure over disputes; our staff members merely act as agents to determine if a scam occurred and work hard to make resolutions between both parties as best we can. Not to mention, we don't let just anyone become a Scam Investigator. It is considered to be one of the most rigorous processes in this community and in my opinion it's the most rigorous I've ever seen on my time of discord just to ensure the impartiality that you so seek.

Also, I'm pretty sure we already have an age limit anyways. We don't just allow 13 year olds to join, I believe it's 14-15 year olds as that is the age we believe that you gain a certain maturity level.

Anyways, I think this sums up why this won't be considered and the suggestion should just be closed accordingly.

[neon violet]

damn i’m almost 18 and still unemployed (no one wants me)

[stray ginkgo]

I completely disagree, I’ve had a job since I was 15, and now am starting a business myself with some others. Just because a few people don’t know how, does not mean everyone.

[hollow mural]

This was almost a month ago brah

[toxic pike]

** Discord’s ToS states users must be at least 13 to use the platform. BBut even if someone is 13 or older, they are legally unable to manage financial disputes or handle transactions. Minors can’t sign binding contracts, meaning they can’t be trusted with financial responsibilities. Having a minor act as an intermediary or arbitrator puts both the user and the server at legal risk.

**Discord’s ToS makes it clear that miners shouldn’t be handling financial matters. It’s a legal issue that can cause real trouble 4 the server if things go wrong.

**

**Minors simply don’t have the legal capacity to handle financial disputes or make decisions involving money. In many places, contracts made by minors can be voided, and they aren’t accountable for their actions in the same way adults are. Even if a minor is responsible, their decisions can be legally questionable, and they can’t be held aaccountable like an adult would.

Argument: A miners lack of legal authority to manage money creates a huge risk for everyone involved. The server is exposed to liability bby allowing minors to be responsible for financial matters**

Miners don’t have the emotional maturity to handle serious disputes involving money. They mmmay make decisions based on personal bias or a lack of experience.
**
Miners are vulnerable to manipulation. Placing them in charge of financial disputes could easily lead to exploitation. They may not have the critical thinking skills or the ability to assess situations objectively, opening the door for others to take advantage of them.
**
it’s unethical and potentially illegal. Miners lack the legal authority, experience, and maturity needed for such important.. roles. This puts both the server and its users in a dangerous position**

Man the staff in this server need to be fired

[tulip panther]

Lol what are you talking about

"Miners" don't handle any transactions directly

Staff just settles arguments

[toxic pike]

Lol i mispelled cus autocorrect

[stray ginkgo]

I apologize for sharing my opinion.

[neon violet]

https://tenor.com/view/diamonds-minecraft-mining-gif-20393111

[silver nest]

So this is a whole load of crap. While there is some merit to what you're saying, transaction arbiters don't handle money. Money never touches the hands of a transaction arbiter. All a transaction arbiter has to do is make a decision as to who's right or wrong in a dispute. Then whoever is wrong should face server punishment if they refuse to resolve the situation amicably.
There's no legalises involved - just a decision based on facts as shared by both people involved in a dispute, with a transaction arbiter rendering a final decision. They don't touch money and don't need to be involved with contracts.

[hollow mural]

This guy is still on this almost a month later

[errant rapids]

i handle money better than my dad dawg i legit keep him in check

[hollow mural]

Chicken

Jockey

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-jockey-a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-baby-zombie-chicken-gif-11064815643349027904

[errant rapids]

the movie sucked ass

[neon violet]

shut it pixie

[errant rapids]

no

[supple oxide]

I disagree, i gotta tell u rn that i know kids who manage money better than their own families

And they go into this server to make money to afford a new pc or smth that they parents definitely wont give

[toxic pike]

My little sister is 14 and she doesn’t know the first thing about money

[supple oxide]

because she refuses to know how to make money

money is important later in life, so its good that kids are learning money while they at it, so they cam ues the money they make into college and learn how to manage their own money

[toxic pike]

0-0 im pretty sure that entire topic is opinionated it all depends. Half know how to manage money half don’t. Lol 😂 this conversation makes 0 sense

[errant rapids]

some do some dont whats there to discuss

[dense mulch]

im 15 and im making like 300 a day from my game i think other 15 year olds know how it would work too

along with that i still gotta deal with school so im no exception either

[hollow mural]

No ur not

[dense mulch]

hol on

Eh reasonable accussation i got donate game tho thats why

its avging like 100-150 ppl

[hollow mural]

Yea but ur not averaging 300 bucks a day

Believe me you’d not be here lol that’s nearly 10 grand a month

[dense mulch]

Yea 300 is on a bad day

10k a month is bad lol

my dad makes like 4x me

[hollow mural]

Right

I don’t believe u at all

[dense mulch]

also 100k rbx is 300

additionally its not from one game

[hollow mural]

Yeah but ur not making anything a month lol

[dense mulch]

also u can search my game

[hollow mural]

Prove it

Nono

Stats

[dense mulch]

aight

[hollow mural]

I don’t think u understand ur claims urself

[dense mulch]

huh

[hollow mural]

150 people a day isn’t making u half that

Even a quarter of that

[dense mulch]

on a donation game it will

[hollow mural]

Nah

[dense mulch]

its bc every donation made u get 10 percent

[hollow mural]

And 150 ppl a day

Nah

[dense mulch]

how much u make

[hollow mural]

Even with 300 ppl a day ur not touching the amount u said

[dense mulch]

mfs just be envious

[hollow mural]

No ur just a liar

[dense mulch]

Aight ill send u ss

[hollow mural]

I don’t even care abt this post but ur claim was funny

[dense mulch]

?

also with 300 on a dono game u can touch double what i said

[hollow mural]

Yeah but ur not 😂

You’re claiming to be making over 100k USD a year off a dead game

Now ur tripping

No I think ur lying so not really

[dense mulch]

aight believe what u want

[hollow mural]

Saying 100k is barely above minimum wage proves my point

I don’t think u understand how much a difference is

And that’s also not true

[dense mulch]

40k

or have roles that do

[supple oxide]

Like seriously

Everyone has the right to make money

[dense mulch]

I agree

[supple oxide]

And their parents wont spoil them

Kids needs to know how to manage and make money

Not just be given to them

[dense mulch]

still dont rlly undertand flarps argument

[hollow mural]

U just showed me u hav 0 understanding of real life financiers 😭

[dense mulch]

huh

[hollow mural]

You just said minimum wage is nearly 100k a year

Said you make over 100k a year off a dead game

What else

[chrome cape]

Regardless of the kids maturity you wouldnt have a 12yr old run a bank

Even if they make a grillion dollars

[dense mulch]

12 yr different story

[hollow mural]

You said a gas station worker earns 70k a year

Maybe in fairy land

[chrome cape]

Sure 13-14

Point is if the brain can get better i want it at its best

Not developing

[dense mulch]

high school up kids are mature enough

[hollow mural]

😂

They won’t even let a 15 yr old at a cash register at McDonald’s

[supple oxide]

So why work at mcdonalds

[chrome cape]

When mature enough vs mature could be the difference between keeping and losing money it matters

Imo not age restriction but fs some sort of screening

[supple oxide]

When u can just work as a freelance

And make more money

[chrome cape]

Half the staff doesnt know how to properly interact in a conversation let alone run a server

[hollow mural]

And make 100k a year off a dead game 🤯

[chrome cape]

Its fine to keep them 16-17, just do a screening first

Make sure theyre not incompetent

[supple oxide]

Do u think 18 year olds will modeerste a server

[chrome cape]

Yes

[dense mulch]

nah fr i can gurantee most of this is kids

[hollow mural]

I was 14 when Covid started I’ll tell u that much 😂

[chrome cape]

Children shouldnt be used just bc its free labor

[hollow mural]

I’m in law school

[chrome cape]

If hiring older means the server has to use some of its money

[dense mulch]

if children wanna do it let them

[chrome cape]

Let them unless it effects my money

Go mod a chat not my bread

[hollow mural]

Most people here were toddlers during Covid

[dense mulch]

also i dont think server is making enough money to hire grown adults

[hollow mural]

These people don’t remember Walmart 24 hr service

[chrome cape]

190k members with 17$ server passes?

maybe we dont know about money

Whoever told u that has unfortunately fell for the same trap

If they make no money they dont have any to spend on the server!

[hollow mural]

This person said their dad makes 1 mil a year and that a gas station worker makes 70k a year

[chrome cape]

So it stays shit! How convenient!

[hollow mural]

They said their dead donate game makes 100k+ a year

What

[dense mulch]

do u habe any experience with a game?

[hollow mural]

Yes

[chrome cape]

🤚

[dense mulch]

which

[hollow mural]

Why else would I be here

[dense mulch]

name me any with above 1m visits

that U made

[chrome cape]

🤚

[hollow mural]

That I made alone?

[chrome cape]

Mine is solo deved too

[dense mulch]

Nah even that u modeled for

[chrome cape]

🤚

[hollow mural]

Easy

Saber arena

[dense mulch]

sure are u makign money from it

do u have authority to even see how much its making

[hollow mural]

No because it was for a friend I didn’t want money

Yes

[dense mulch]

sure

[hollow mural]

lol

Okay go keep making a fortune off a 150 player deceased donate game

[dense mulch]

dont believe u ine bit

[chrome cape]

I solo deved game 20m visits + will full view of analytics i still back the opinion

[hollow mural]

Ok I don’t need a child’s approval

Lol

[chrome cape]

If u dont believe me feel free to check description

[hollow mural]

I believe u not the guy that says he makes 100k a year off a dead game 😂

[dense mulch]

aight i dont need a grown adults approval argueing with a 15 yo approval

[hollow mural]

His dad makes 1 million dollars a year

[hollow mural]

“Argueing”

Covid killed the education system

[chrome cape]

But notice the direction this conversation went in, it makes you wonder if it wouldve went differently with an adult

[dense mulch]

Bro is arguing abt typos

[tame sequoia]

😐

[hollow mural]

Do you make 100k a year off a dead game

[dense mulch]

ok

so

[hollow mural]

😂

[dense mulch]

u make nothing

[hollow mural]

Ok cool but do you make 100k a year off a 150 player avg game

Just wondering

[dense mulch]

sure

[hollow mural]

Ok that’s all I wanted to know thank you

[tame sequoia]

What age are you exactly complaining about when saying children?

[dense mulch]

15 yos

highschoolers

[hollow mural]

Idc abt this post anymore this guy is just not smart

[dense mulch]

U arent either

[hollow mural]

It’s funny to stand here and meme on a kid whose education system was infected by Covid

[hollow mural]

Okay Mr 100k a year off a dead game

[tame sequoia]

But isn’t it common to have the age minimum to apply as a moderator around 14-16

In most servers 😭

[hollow mural]

That’s the problem 😂

Would u want a guy who doesn’t understand finances like ebrahim0261 here

Look at chat and give me an honest answer lmao

I wouldn’t personally 😂

[tame sequoia]

In my opinion it just depends on how that user acts if it’s just overall dead beats then you might be in the upper hand 🤷‍♂️

[hollow mural]

I rate this servers staff 2/10

2 stands for the 2 adults

[tame sequoia]

There are a couple children who are smarter then adults in other ways if you think about it

🤷‍♂️

There must be a reason on why they got accepted in the first place that’s all I’m saying

[hollow mural]

In yapptistics like ebrahim evidently

[tame sequoia]

🤷‍♂️

[hollow mural]

Pfft they accept anybody lol

[dense mulch]

flarp even if i make 20k a year i would make infinitely times more than u

if u think abt it

also their is plenty games more successfull than mine that make more that are run by <18

also flarp u just turnt a adult idk why u are so strong on ur belief

[tame sequoia]

Isn’t an example of a user who made it big while young hazem?

He was 16 or 15 forgot when he made his pls donate game

Making thousands of dollars worth of Robux etc

[dense mulch]

yea but he different

[hollow mural]

No u wouldnt

Ur acting like I make 0 lmao

Ur sitting here saying u make 100k a year on a game that has no player base

[tame sequoia]

In Robux or usd

Because it’s been proven by quite of few people who doesn’t have many players in there game that makes thousands of Robux daily

[hollow mural]

USD

[tame sequoia]

Oh

[dense mulch]

i never said usd flarp just lying on my name

no game is making 100k usd daily dawg where did i say that

[dense mulch]

100 avg concurrent withno advertising is a player base your just being inconsiderate

[hollow mural]

i never said 100k daily i said a year

yet another strike back from ebrahim0261 proving my point

[dense mulch]

U seem to be the one striking back

lol

[hollow mural]

https://tenor.com/iT6gMPRoaCs.gif

[dense mulch]

also do u

make more than 0.

[hollow mural]

yea

https://tenor.com/r1HsPuXEjkW.gif

[dense mulch]

from what

[hollow mural]

from a job what else 😂

[dense mulch]

what job

[hollow mural]

what r u trying to prove

bro im not telling u anymore than that what tf do u do 😭

[dense mulch]

What

[hollow mural]

dont u have homework

thats ur job brotha

[dense mulch]

Done it all

[hollow mural]

go do the extra credit

[dense mulch]

Did it all

school to easy

[hollow mural]

thats a problem evidently they gave up on the education system 😭

"my dad makes like 10x that"

[dense mulch]

huh

Who told u they gave up

[hollow mural]

i diid

they gave up based on how u think the world works

[dense mulch]

How u think it works

[hollow mural]

u make nothing and sit on ur moms 2.4g internet connection thats fine ur 15 but u gotta understand youre 15 you dont know what the real world is u clearly have no grasp on money

[dense mulch]

U dont even got a job

[hollow mural]

yep ur right im a jobless person living with my mom with dinner made for me every night by my parents 😭 😂

https://tenor.com/gVi1bDmaYfg.gif

[dense mulch]

And u 18 talking abt sum u sit on ur moms wifi

[hollow mural]

totally

[dense mulch]

yea i do im 15 so what

[hollow mural]

yes

ur still

a very young child

take some economic classes

[dense mulch]

alright this is straying from the original purpose of this forum

[hollow mural]

u proved the post a while ago

when u said "my dad makes 10x that 🤓 "

[hollow mural]

💀 this to

even worse

or the 100k being minimum wage

0 understanding of money

wait til u meet the tax man 😭

[dense mulch]

i think this over what the outcome is that flarp is inconsiderate and has a one way perspective on how the world works and that the original statement is wrong and that things should stay the way they are

y thats it anyone just viewing this

oh yea and flarp likes arguing with 15 yos

[hollow mural]

😭

💀 💀

😭 💀

[dense mulch]

ss aint proving nun for

u

[hollow mural]

"im done with this 🤓 " keeps talking anyways

[dense mulch]

still anyone viewing this js ignore flarp

[hollow mural]

i think this over what the outcome is that ebrahim0261is inconsiderate and has a one way perspective on how the world works and that the original statement is wrong and that things should stay the way they are

[rustic depot]

more like robux

[warm summit]

shes not wrong

whether u have knowledge on how money works or not, it should be handled by someone whos 18+ or even better, 21+

u dont see the government sayin otherwise when it comes to these, no matter wat kind of prodigal u r

no matter the criteria

u have to be 18+ to conduct an actual business

open a self-custodian bank acc

open a company

[supple oxide]

Doesn’t matter, its commissions

[tulip panther]

lol wgat

they don’t process anything money related

they just settle devates

debates

[supple oxide]

im 15 and i make money/robux from UI

and i dont want to work at a fuckin fast food so ye

• like almost everyone in this server who does commissions is under 18

[silver nest]

How many times to I have to say that this server's scam team does not directly touch the money at all?

[tulip panther]

lol I swear

People just ignore whatever this thread is about

[dense mulch]

Nah fr also most ppl who are 18 don’t rlly know too much abt money as they just graduated high school I would say the majority of ppl 18+ just have work experience at like McDonald’s

[dense mulch]

This is true too

I think the person that started this was just trying to be controversial.

[hollow mural]

Stop talking bro

Don’t make me grab what you’ve said here

[hollow mural]

“My dad makes like 4x that 🤓 “
“Gas station workers make 70k a year 🤓 “
“I make $300 a day off a 100 player game 🤓 “
“100k is minimum wage 🤓 “

“I’ll send a screenshot 🤓 “ never does

I don’t need to prove that

Because idc

More like 100 maximum

[toxic pike]

But when kids make money it’s not the kids directly making the money, they have to agree to a specific type of license to do so, which is handled by their parents.

[rustic depot]

why wouldn’t she be tho lol

[toxic pike]

That’s just misjudgment of character we ain’t perfect and lawyers definitely aren’t either

[rustic depot]

Exactly

also she’s like 18

waiting

[dense mulch]

For what

[rustic depot]

you just said wait a min

[dense mulch]

What makes u assume that?

[supple oxide]

No they dont

[hollow mural]

The fact you said you get 150 avg and said u make $300 a day and over 100k a year off a dead game

In fact I think ur lying entirely

More like u can’t

But that was expected

Lolz

[hollow mural]

I don’t need to because I don’t care but u keep arguing about ur non existent success you should be expected to show evidence or else everything u say is bs

[hollow mural]

U have no money

Stop it