Revise the code-help into a Forum/Thread

[rugged vale]

Can we revise the code-help channel into a forum/thread so we can keep each problem clear and organized? This would allow us to better understand each person's problem since the code-help channel seems clustered, making it difficult for people to solve their problems if someone going to interrupt that isn't related to the person's problem.

Reference

would be nice if the tag is like:

In-progress, Solved, Pending Review and Closed or whatever you you like

and add a tag about their problem like:
Scripting, VFX, Building, Game Design, Animation, Showcase and Modeling

[crimson dew]

Someone did suggest this a few days ago but refuse to elaborate 🤣

[spark gull]

The server had run both, the forum type and the channel type at the same time as a pilot but the forum didnt catch on

very few people like that style, including me.

This is not the DevForums.

[deft adder]

here's your help for the bubble sort algorithm: please find a better algorithm 😭

[deft adder]

i liked it for complicated stuff

advanced-code sucks

[spark gull]

..

[wet salmon]

Just because a few people didn't like the forum style doesn't mean we should ignore it! It's a logical way of organizing things, and it's much more appealing to look at than a cluttered channel.

And I'm not just talking about the forum style, but also the way we structure our channel. A lot of the other channels are too cluttered with random people asking for help; instead, we could have one help-specific chat for each topic, so people can easily see the specific problem they're looking for.

[spark gull]

I believe it was removed after a poll.

[rugged vale]

thank you ong 😭

[spark gull]

So no, it wasnt a few people.

[rugged vale]

I see thankk

[deft adder]

didn't the poll turn out largely positive

[spark gull]

I dont remember but i dont think solo would disregard an open poll

[deft adder]

haha funny joke

solo doesn't care

[spark gull]

Bruh

[oblique steeple]

then add it, atleast its more useful and active than #advanced-code

no one cares ab #advanced-code no one asked for it

we are asking for code help threads

[spark gull]

I didnt make it

[oblique steeple]

but u got my point

instead of adding what even five ppl are asking

this server adds something no one likely mentioned

i made similar thread to this with same idea

got told it was unpopular?

who cares

it was popular to the point it was filled with new threads

and it has its own + and -

u can seperately help one person on the same subject

instead of 20people yapping who knows ab what in code help

and you know urself code help becomes regular chat in the evening

[idle bluff]

No

[rugged vale]

but it would be nice to add it again tho

[idle bluff]

No it sucked

[oblique steeple]

it didnt

nothing sucks more than advanced code

i dont see the point of it

[idle bluff]

advanced code is code help but better but also worse because it's full of nerds

[rugged vale]

This is the second time I've asked for help with my issue on Code Help, but due to the chat cluttered, it's been difficult to get meaningful help from anyone

because we either get ignored or given half-help or incomplete advice from other ppl

[twilit bramble]

no one is going to help you with your 1k lines problem or with something barely anyone did or knows how to do

people who ask good questions get answers quickly

[oblique steeple]

define good question

[spark gull]

Relevant code, properly explained issue: expected behaviour, actual behaviour, any errors or warnings

And then answer any questions people ask to understand the issue

Most questions asked are an XY problem

Thats not good.

[oblique steeple]

i do agree with providing errors or warnings

but u must still know its code help

most newbies dont even know how programming works

and that it can give a problem in english

i even think

that newbies dont even know how to open console

[proven plank]

yeah I've had to tell people multiple times how to open their output

imo code help questions should really be a step above basic tutorial stuff

I usually just ignore questions like that now, and whether or not there's irrelevant stuff going on in chat doesn't affect whether I choose to help someone or not

not sure if I speak for all helpers with that but it's my take

[oblique steeple]

code help is code help

[proven plank]

it's a waste of time have someone tell you how to write a function when there's tons of tutorials out there already

[oblique steeple]

thats why the threads are good idea

for someone who wants to help eitherway

without being in anyones business in code help

[proven plank]

yh but they can just help in the channel?

I'm not saying I get pissed if I see someone else helping a complete beginner I don't care

you're not being in anyone's business by helping someone

[deft adder]

where you go i go

[proven plank]

basically my point is - I don't think the extra conversation actually impacts whether someone's question gets answered

whether the channel is dead or whether its got people talking doesn't change whether I decide to help someone when I see them ask

[deft adder]

when you see them taz

that's the point

you can't see them when chat is so fast pace and multiple questions are being asked and aswered at the same time

[proven plank]

it's not that hard to keep up - if I'm active in the channel then I generally do get to read every message

but yeah that is vslid

if there was only helping then if someone clicks onto the channel they're more likely to see someone's question than a random conversation

[deft adder]

there are people that don't even use reply so it just makes it even more confusing

[proven plank]

yeah lol

[oblique steeple]

most of the time code help isnt being used as code help

[calm sandal]

Why does only code get a help channel

this is biased treatment

[deft adder]

womp womp

it's the most active channel

[blazing onyx]

“very few” because the people that shit talk and go off-topic couldn’t do that anymore