code-discussion

[frosty sierra]

Hey I just finished all the tutorials of Brawldev. And I am having a problem what to do after this

Can anybody help me

[remote bear]

https://tenor.com/view/chimutan-chicken-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-15173158631897442446

[pastel breach]

build systems

[vapid crest]

anyone wanna network hmu

[high geode]

has any one had issue with packages not updating automatically and when publish to package is pressed? and this only happens to me when i test live but on roblox player i still have old code running. and i'm starting to think its some sort of package delay.

[steep anvil]

can i get feedback on my new networking library ?

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/roexpress-—-expressjs-style-networking-for-roblox/4646082

[wanton holly]

server side hitbox detection or client hitbox detection and server validation?

[stone rapids]

uhhhm that one

[normal grove]

You def designed it like express.js lmao

You had the example make me think it was some http networking library

Which I was considering making

How do you even make vertexes

Meh no what ima make my own http library in Roblox

Fk it sounds fun

[steep anvil]

yah, i use expressjs alot when making my admin panels and my websites i use mvc frame works in my games and well i lacked the a decent remote routing solution

[sour thunder]

can claude code make gui

[normal grove]

It made me wanna figure out a structure for my http module so I did and this is what I assumed would work fine

RbxHttpService/
│
├── init.luau ← Main module, public API surface
│
├── __Index/
│ ├── HttpClient.luau ← Core request logic, ties everything together
│ └── Config.luau ← BASE_URL, SECRET_KEY, flush interval, defaults
│
├── Workers/
│ ├── RateLimiter.luau ← 490/min counter + queue
│ ├── Batcher.luau ← Batches pending requests, flushes on interval
│ ├── Poller.luau ← Long poll loop, fires event callbacks
│ └── CacheWorker.luau ← TTL cache for GET responses
│
├── Utils/
│ ├── Retry.luau ← Exponential backoff wrapper
│ ├── Middleware.luau ← Pipeline, use() and applyMiddleware()
│ ├── Serializer.luau ← JSON encode/decode + error handling
│ └── Logger.luau ← Debug logging toggle
│
└── Dependencies/
└── Promise.luau ← Async handling (evaera's Promise lib)

[regal salmon]

yeah but its usually pretty obvious when its claude generated

[sour thunder]

everyones using claude and im just beginning to learn scripting

[regal salmon]

don't vibe code

[sour thunder]

i feel left behind

[regal salmon]

it's bad for you when you're a beginner

[normal grove]

I wanna remake or improve the http service

It sucks ass lowkey

Very limited

[sour thunder]

im half way into the brawldev advanced scripting tut @regal salmon

[normal grove]

Atleast you’re trying

[regal salmon]

when you're starting out, use it to ask questions or improve your understanding, but don't use it to write code for you

you will not learn if you vibe code

however if you don't care to learn, then i can't help you

[normal grove]

I would say use ai as a tool

Not as your writer

[sour thunder]

Idk I just want to make my game idea

[normal grove]

Or just something to give you a reference on how to build something

Which is what I only ever use it for

[normal grove]

Want to see some stuff I wrote

?

https://github.com/requestint/Past_work/blob/main/InputBinderService/InputBinderService.luau

Something easy to understand

[sour thunder]

Yes

[steep anvil]

here is an old attempt at making my own http module

[normal grove]

I’m on phone rn, what did yours do essentially?

I want to make one that allows you to make endpoints along with basic http networking

[steep anvil]

so you could prebuild your headers and use a chainable request setup

[normal grove]

Ooo cool thank you 😄

[sour thunder]

Holy are y'all pro software engineers

[steep anvil]

umm noo

[normal grove]

Do it for 4y - 5y and you’ll see why it’s easy

[steep anvil]

pretty much XD

[normal grove]

Or becomes easier

[normal grove]

Roblox did so shit on there http service

[steep anvil]

ide honestly say the hard part is just getting into a flow stat of mind

[steep anvil]

oh i agree

[normal grove]

I can agree on that

[normal grove]

Can’t even do basic pooling without making a module to do constant http requests

😭💔

What a bump service

[edgy plover]

yo twin, are you taking comms rn

[sour thunder]

How do u do that

[steep anvil]

its simple you just send a request at preset intervals to simulate real time communication

[steep anvil]

im interested but im code locked

[normal grove]

Yeah Ik I just wish http service already had a function to support it

[wanton holly]

ruh

[normal grove]

Without the extra work

[wanton holly]

server side hitbox detection or client hitbox detection and server validation?

[edgy plover]

why?

[normal grove]

Also uhh if you got anything more that you may find useful for me dm me them

You actually fucking know your shit

[steep anvil]

your welcome

[normal grove]

Holy crap thank you

[edgy plover]

yo twin dm me!

it won't let me

im in ur stream aswell

@steep anvil you play mini empires?

[remote bear]

they are just vectors with an added w for matrixes

[steep anvil]

yah

[edgy plover]

dm me twin

[edgy plover]

im makin a similar game

[sour thunder]

yo which codex plan do i buy

go, plus, pro which one

[wicked eagle]

expected folder? but got folder? 😭

[lime relic]

codex?

[sour thunder]

chatgpt coder

@lime relic

[lime relic]

😭

none of them what

[sour thunder]

everyone is using ai

even tiktok comments are pro devs now

fuck everyone alive

[lime relic]

???????

[wicked eagle]

do what to everyone alive?

[lime relic]

isnt claude better anyways?

[wicked eagle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/our-brain-are-shrinking-we-dumb-ass-now-ai-slave-7y8580ReeCeLrNa0Zb

[sour thunder]

bud

i have claude but i heard u gotta have the big three

1. claude

2. codex

[lime relic]

no bro i do it myself

[sour thunder]

3. gemini

[lime relic]

i dont even do roblox anymore im here to larp now ig

[sour thunder]

have u made any successful games yet?

[lime relic]

swapped to cyber

[sour thunder]

thats what i assumed

to larp?

i heard the entire field is getting replaced by ai

[lime relic]

it wont

[sour thunder]

🤣 why not

[lime relic]

attackers like you gonna use just as much ai

[sour thunder]

exactly

thats why the field is getting replaced by ai

[lime relic]

???

[regal salmon]

my man

[lime relic]

i might be slow or are you just not good at writing bro

[sour thunder]

ur slow

[lime relic]

is it tuff

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710563050025123882/1465094744282763538/1_Hour_in_HD.gif

[regal salmon]

i did the same so i'm biased

[lime relic]

you my twin

[regal salmon]

ong yo

whatd you move onto?

[lime relic]

cyber sec

[regal salmon]

ahh very nice

[lime relic]

you?

[regal salmon]

i moved back to focusing on making games in unity

been doing it longer than i was doing roblox

[lime relic]

oh thats so fun

[regal salmon]

yess

[lime relic]

probably for the better man

seeing how roblox going now 😭

[regal salmon]

yeaahh 😭

steam my goat fr

[lime relic]

so much better

i occasionally use rpg maker but ive stopped mostly

gamedev not as intresting as networks

[regal salmon]

i tried rpg maker but didnt spend long enough on it to wrap my head around it lol

[regal salmon]

i still like making multiplayer games

and, like a mad man, i enjoy writing netcode

[lime relic]

its fun for making silly stories and making your friends play them

[regal salmon]

lmaoo i see

[lime relic]

youre like maybe insane

[regal salmon]

😭

[lime relic]

they put you in a big metal cage

[regal salmon]

probably for the best

[lime relic]

100% 🙂‍↕️

[wicked eagle]

if folder:IsA("folder") and folder.Parent == workspace then folder.foldingfolder:destroy() end yes

folder folder folder

[modest hound]

type machine working at it finest 😭

[inner wharf]

motor applies force before anchored state updates, idk anchoring need a time for chnage hes boolean, i can use task.wait(0.035) -minimum for change state of anchored

How counter that?

[wicked eagle]

did u fix it

[modest hound]

no

[modest hound]

we in vibe coding ❤️

[cursive crown]

does anyone know how to push someone upwards?

[stuck rose]

Seathed

[untold flax]

you're trying to instantly apply motor after it gets unanchored?

isn't there an event listener for properties so you can just wait until anchored = false

something like GetPropertyChangedSignal

[untold flax]

use bodyforce or velocityforce

[untold oxide]

how to add a streak icon above players head

billboard ui or attachment+surface ui

[hasty mesa]

billboard works

[untold oxide]

how do i design it tho

im having fitting the image label issues

do i do it while playtesting

[hasty mesa]

doing it in studio should work fine

just make sure its on scale

[untold oxide]

surface gui and attaachment wwill cause issues with perspective ig yeah

[inner wharf]

Sounds good

Ty

[inner wharf]

oh

[earnest hazel]

[waxen dew]

will momentum based movement always be janky in roblox

im trying to get it so while grounded its constant velocity but in air its momentum based

[static coral]

use custom physics

roblox physics constraints always gonna be a bit jank when u trying to do something complex

[feral night]

Btw did yall start scripting with a passion project in mind🥀

[minor aurora]

you ever tryna make one of those anime games shi

[feral night]

I didnt even try to💀

But i had it in mind when starting

And like 1 month after starting the reality check hit🥀

I was tryna solo dev a full scale rezero rpg game😭 i was insane

[earnest hazel]

everybody did

[feral night]

Lol

[minor aurora]

i think my first passion project was making a jojo game

and like the entire code in it was literally from a tut

[feral night]

💀

[minor aurora]

i stopped after 3 days

[feral night]

Did you atleast make any progress

[minor aurora]

i did

even made my own animations and stuff

but ig i broke some part of the code that i just archived the game

and its rotting in my archives now

[feral night]

Lol my first animation looked so chopped and i didnt even know what an easing style was😭

[minor aurora]

i legit spammed cubic easing style when i first learned it

like those goofy ahh bouncing shi

[feral night]

😭🙏

[livid maple]

learning by necessity is really the best way eh, just watching tutorials won't get u anywhere

[feral night]

So im not the only one who started scripting with a delusional mindset

[feral night]

Fr

[minor aurora]

im pretty sure i learned my first script when i was workin on a one piece game

still free models tho, but i learned some

[feral night]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-elite-elite-ball-elite-ball-knowledge-ball-knowledge-gif-9337371460101398527

[minor aurora]

i mean even now i still get like those 1 month curse

[feral night]

Lol

[minor aurora]

got an idea in mind and then just completely abandon it

[feral night]

Yeaa

It happens

Btw how much experience you got in scripting

[livid maple]

one of those games might blow up u know

[minor aurora]

i think like around 4-5 years

[minor aurora]

insert the diamond digging meme

[feral night]

Developing them is the hardest part💀 you cant make a full scale rpg in 2 months ALONE

[feral night]

Ur my senior then

[minor aurora]

eh honestly i cant even write like a clean proper code

[feral night]

Why

[minor aurora]

i dunno like my ideas just came in abstract

so like it just pops up in the middle of writing the code

[feral night]

Just ignore it

[minor aurora]

so sometimes i just use blackbox to properly rewrite it

[feral night]

Its the developer dillema

Let me tell u smthng

If u make a game

And in the middle of making it your like "why shouldn't i add another level"

And then that other level becomes 2 and 3

Its endless

Just focus on your task and getting it done before moving on to other things

Y feel me?

[minor aurora]

well my problem is with the task sometimes

kinda goes like

"how do i achieve this" and then when im trying to work on the other part of the script i just kinda like

oh thats how you do it

and then just slap it in

like no consideration at all

as long as no red lines in the outputs im doin fine

[feral night]

Finish the other part of the script and lock in the "thats how you do it" before tryna slap it in

Finish what you are doing before moving on to the other thing

Like in an exam for example

You are doing a question

Then you suddenly move onto another question because you remembered the answer to it

And when you go back to ur main question you forget what the answer you almost got was

Y feel me?

[minor aurora]

prolly

ill take that into account

thanks

[feral night]

K gtg cya

[waxen dew]

im not good enough

any libraries?

[ember anvil]

I want to enter a VC with someone and talk about scripting

[tardy pasture]

why

[ember anvil]

why not

if we both have free time

we can have fun

[tardy pasture]

cuz we scripters are very shy creatures

[fair siren]

Question, I've never worked on movement systems for games so it's fairly new to me. I wish to make a parkour system (wall running, sliding rolling etc) what would be a good place to get started on this? I've already been doing vector application for sprinting and sliding but i'm not too sure where to go for wall climbing, wallrunning etc.

[ember anvil]

Understood

[ember anvil]

you're my friend!!

I was thinking about making a movement system

interested?

[tardy pasture]

he claimed you

lol

[ember anvil]

lmao

no I don't lie tho

[tardy pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-bulbasaur-catch-to-catch-them-is-my-real-test-gif-8604573703930341120

[ember anvil]

I've already made a state manager system

[fair siren]

I'm genuinely really stuck on the wallrunning stuff... 😭

Sprint and sliding systems are so damn easy but everything else SUCKS.

[ember anvil]

hmm

[tardy pasture]

local wallrun = true

there u go ez

[fair siren]

YOOOOOOO.

[ember anvil]

bro made it ez

[tardy pasture]

ik im da goat in programming

[ember anvil]

can you do vc?

let's chat about it there

easier

[tardy pasture]

bro really wanna chat with strangers

[ember anvil]

yeah dude

[fair siren]

It's a public thing I guess

[ember anvil]

ldjdldjdldj

[fair siren]

what vc

[ember anvil]

voice chat

[fair siren]

Yeah but which vc

[ember anvil]

any

[fair siren]

Hop in gen

[copper spindle]

Guys are you all bored??

Can we build something together for FUN??

Cuz, I'm pretty bored and unemployed now

[visual tree]

For .. f-fun?

[copper spindle]

Yea why not

[visual tree]

I'm working on stiff

Stuff

[copper spindle]

But I'm not

[visual tree]

I'm also in train rn

[copper spindle]

So what 🤨

[visual tree]

Np pc

[copper spindle]

[visual tree]

[copper spindle]

[visual tree]

[copper spindle]

[visual tree]

Hmm

[copper spindle]

Hmm

Why are you copying me

[visual tree]

Why are you copying me

[fringe urchin]

hi
i wanna relearn scripting( i tried twice i finished the beginners playlist from a youtuber called brawldev or smthn? and then i quit) but im not sure what playlist i should watch(the same or another one) and what i should do after i finish the tutorial(watch more tuts/go to the docs/make stuff)

[gusty fog]

this is a good place to start:
https://create.roblox.com/docs/tutorials/curriculums/gameplay-scripting
also this for fundamentals: https://create.roblox.com/docs/tutorials/fundamentals/coding-1/coding-fundamentals

[fringe urchin]

thanks ill check it out

[severe spoke]

guys can some one help me make a tycoon game ???? im broke but i will make ads

[golden coral]

what kind of ratio

[severe spoke]

maybe a tycoon game or a brainrot game*

[edgy plover]

@gusty fog your adding planes!?

[worthy cradle]

Guys does anyone know how long an application as a coder normally would take to get approved or denied?

[stone rapids]

72 days

[golden coral]

its honestly around the 30-40 hour mark

[worthy cradle]

Alright! Thanks

[blissful trout]

i dont know.

[sonic flame]

if i script for at least 3 hours everyday how long will it take me to start getting small commisions like 1k robux

[drowsy pumice]

10 years

[stone rapids]

most people in this server havent been alive for that long 😭

[drowsy pumice]

minidevs 😢

[tepid canyon]

does anyoen script here

[worthy cradle]

no we are all modellers

[drowsy pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384300672907874394/1453258529900073034/image.gif

[tepid canyon]

can you help me , i have a VERYYYYYYYYYYYY good idea bro

i alr got 3 investors

and i am a builder my self

[worthy cradle]

Then hire a scripter

[tepid canyon]

where

ouuu shi

[drowsy pumice]

under there

[worthy cradle]

i would suggest going to scripter-hireable

[brittle rampart]

Ya

[tepid canyon]

can you do rng games?

[brittle rampart]

ya

[tepid canyon]

dm me

[brittle rampart]

whatsup

[tepid canyon]

u gon get payed

[rigid kiln]

under where?

[drowsy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-laugh-laughing-homelander-laughing-kataman-gif-10975171266381486696

[rigid kiln]

u got me now u owe me 10 scripts of realistic physics and custom controller physics

[wary owl]

Any1 know any investors

[stone rapids]

hahaha

[stone rapids]

is that dexter morgan

[prime plank]

how can i sync claude with studio, and is it worth it (20€ a month(

[zenith wyvern]

sno

no, just learn coding

[prime plank]

i have 2yrs experiencr

im here to make money not to feel proud about being a coder

[near sonnet]

yo guys how do devs load all the assets besides a loading screen. Like how do u load every UI,Animation and everything without a loading screen

[zenith wyvern]

you dont

[near sonnet]

?

[zenith wyvern]

like why would you do this

[near sonnet]

for example if u join a game sometimes gui or smth doesnt load in in time

[zenith wyvern]

all you can do is wait until assets are loaded

aka a loading menu

[near sonnet]

There are games without tho

[zenith wyvern]

theyre not preloading assets like UI

theyre just efficient

[near sonnet]

alr

ty

[wicked eagle]

noob

[sonic juniper]

GUYS HOW THE HELL DO I MAKE BODYMOVERS CONSISTENT
.
Dashing using bodymovers ends up with not ideal displacement according to kinematic equations, and I assumed was because of friction (It wasnt) then I assumed it was because of humanoid forces affecting it (it wasnt)

And now im forced to script my own physics to move the player in an ideal way. Is that the only solution

Its some bs that I cant use their tools in an ideal manner

Only thing i havent tried is understanding how roblox handles physics updates, and why its so indeterministic

[spice cypress]

is a body mover a good idea for dashes

just like apply impulse innit

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-boys-butcher-1--k01KS66WAX989BYQ8JN6B4CKQRC

[sonic juniper]

Blud

[zenith wyvern]

use tween

[sonic juniper]

Blud?

Oh yeah

Bm2 does do that

[spice cypress]

tween actually not a bad idea cuz it's sort of an animation

[zenith wyvern]

or cframe lerp works too

[spice cypress]

and that

[sonic juniper]

But again

No

[zenith wyvern]

physics-based dashing usually just results in you getting fucking flung

[sonic juniper]

So

[spice cypress]

yeah you want precise control over a dash

[sonic juniper]

Roblox is shit

[spice cypress]

unless that's obviously not what you want

[zenith wyvern]

yes

[spice cypress]

if you want something physics based then obviouly use physics

[sonic juniper]

☹️you cannot be srs

[sonic juniper]

No

[spice cypress]

oh ok 🙁

[sonic juniper]

Its that i have all the logical settings that roblox tells me to use

But

Its so bad that

It doesnt work ideally

💔

[zenith wyvern]

what i did for dashing was create a raycast with X magnitude (lets say 10 studs) so that it would tween to the end of that raycast, so if it hit something 3 studs infront of oyu, you'd only be tweened 3 studs forward but if it was 7 studs you'd go 7 studs

you do have to use a distance scale formula something so that a tween takes as long as it should depending on the distance youre going

cuz if you have a 1 second tween

taking 1 second for 3 studs makes sense but it should take longer to go 7 studs

more like 2.3 seconds

[spice cypress]

can probably use kinematics to work out the time

suvat type shit

[zenith wyvern]

no i had something really simple going on

it was some dumb shit like distance / time ion even remember

[spice cypress]

actually suvat for like accelration so yeah it's way simpler

[sonic juniper]

I tried both alr

[sonic juniper]

This is has alot of edge cases

[spice cypress]

im trying to do physics based movement atm, it's a lot of fun

[sonic juniper]

I just explained this part and why it doesnt work

[sonic juniper]

👀

??

[spice cypress]

i like things that move nicely

[sonic juniper]

Its consistent?

[spice cypress]

idk how to explain it

[spice cypress]

wdym

[sonic juniper]

For eg

[zenith wyvern]

state the

state them

i had a physics based system that used i believe assemblylinearvelocity and it works

i dont know what i did for handling the fling buginess but i fixed most of it

[sonic juniper]

My problem is that applying a linear velocity on the xz plane works for a good distance on the ground, but in the air, it moves an entirely separate distance, (because roblox is shit, not because theres 0 friction)

[spice cypress]

yeah i just set the assembly linear velocity every time before the physics step

[sonic juniper]

???

That

[sonic juniper]

Avoids this?

[spice cypress]

i mean that's not a roblox physics being shit, that's just physics being physics

[zenith wyvern]

that is literally just physics

💔

[spice cypress]

the ground has more friction than air

¯_(ツ)_/¯

if you want it to be the same ig you could first lift the player up a bit and apply a force to counteract gravity or smt

[elder owl]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-zeus-hoverers-zeus-genius-hover-einstein-gif-18134355799312387018

[sonic juniper]

Its that objects with moving collisions arent registered at the start, and that client side tweens arent replicated until the end (last time i tested) so it was only visible on the client and not the servee

[sonic juniper]

No it isnt?

[zenith wyvern]

wwweeeird

[sonic juniper]

It isnt??

[zenith wyvern]

what

[sonic juniper]

I just said

[zenith wyvern]

not falling for the bait

[sonic juniper]

That i have an ideal scenario

That there is no friction

That the humanoid is disabled

That logically

Kinematics should be able to be applied

It doesnt work

The distance varies by 1-3 studs

And for rare cases

4-10

Or again,

Am i missing something from why

Your guys' methods

[spice cypress]

is friction not still a thing even when you disable the humanoid

[sonic juniper]

Actually work

Oh

My

[spice cypress]

i would've thought everything has friction

[sonic juniper]

God

Bro

Are we not both averge people

Why do you assume that i dont know this info

Further more

[spice cypress]

no im pretty weird

[sonic juniper]

That doesnt matter

Either way

[sonic juniper]

.

[sonic juniper]

.

[sonic juniper]

.

Thats all i wanna know

What did yall do

You said

You applied an assembly linear velocity every frame

Yeah?

My question is

Why does that negate friction? And how does it move a consistent distance

Even in the air

Das it bro

🙏please help me fr now

[spice cypress]

well technically it would still be slightly affected by friciton cuz of substepping, but if you set the velocity before each physics step for the duration of the dash it will basically lock the character at that speed

[sonic juniper]

I see

Hm

The other guy mentioned

That physics makes you fling

How do you prevent that in ur code

[zenith wyvern]

u really dont too mcuh but theres some settings

[spice cypress]

well i have a seperate velocity variable seperate from the roblox one, i edit that one when doing my physics calculations, then when they done i set the assembly linear velocity to the other velocity variable. This is what i did for like a whole custom character controller tho, i had to do gravity myself and shit

[sonic juniper]

Hm

[spice cypress]

i got more control over it tho that way

it was nice

[sonic juniper]

Collisions?

[spice cypress]

got cool floaty gravity

i let roblox handle them still

[sonic juniper]

So

Hm

Hmmmmmm

So then my idea is

In order to move anything

I use that instead?

[spice cypress]

if you're setting the assembly linear velocity every frame you can't really get flung

since any forces that get put on you are overwritten

[sonic juniper]

Mhm

Hm

So then in ur case

What would you do for projectiles for eg

Would you choose to use the same logicM

[spice cypress]

how fancy are the projectiles

[sonic juniper]

Lol good point

Slow arrows

That home in

[spice cypress]

tbh you could probably get away with just anchoring the arrows and just updating their position

[sonic juniper]

Yeah

[spice cypress]

you would probably want custom physics for smt like that so it's predictable

yk easier to work out where the arrow will go when playing the game

so it feels fair

and by doing it yourself you can correctly get the arc of the arrow too if you want to visualise it

[sonic juniper]

This is

Really annoying

I didnt want the answer to be

"Yeah mate roblox js doesnt work"

But thanks so much

[spice cypress]

a really good way to do homing is to have the arrow always be moving forward and then use slerp to rotate it towards the target

[sonic juniper]

For clearing my doubts

[sonic juniper]

Yah

[spice cypress]

not a roblox thing, for things like this even in other game engines you would program it yourself for more control

[sonic juniper]

Thats the only counter 😭 i just wanted roblox to be simple

That was my idea when i came here

But clearly

💔

[spice cypress]

i think what you can do for the rotation is use cframe look at to get the target and then use cframe lerp

then for alpha use some multiple of delta

greek words fr

[sonic juniper]

It was just an example, im good with projectiles

I just wanted an all purpose "move object"

But its probably better to separate characters from everything else

[sonic juniper]

🙏

[spice cypress]

different problems require different solutions

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[near sonnet]

anyone has a solution for the frame not filling to the top?

[honest flower]

ScreenGui.IgnoreGuiInset

should be set to true

[near sonnet]

straight to the point, pictures, spoke freely, correct infortmation A+

[marble cosmos]

what are y'all's opinion on official class support

[regal salmon]

cool

[raven heart]

guys how possible is it to make a custom realistic rocket league physics in roblox?

[honest flower]

terrible

its just half assed metatable wrappers

[marble cosmos]

how do you know

[spice cypress]

they're prolly mainly just to help with typing cuz the typechecker all sorts of confused with metatables

i ruh roh tho

[honest flower]

because you can see the types of variables when you hover over them

[clever sapphire]

deadass?

[clever sapphire]

its pretty easy to get classes to work nice. but for beginners, sure

[marble cosmos]

classes aren't released yet, how are you able to hover over anything

[clever sapphire]

types can be tough unless youve messed around w em quite a bit

[marble cosmos]

unless there is some sort of beta thing

[spice cypress]

yeah, luau docs tells you how to type classes

that use metatables

[clever sapphire]

if they r just metatable wrappers, then im just sticking with metatables

not bouta disrupt my entire workflow for sugar

[marble cosmos]

its more so just to make your code look cleaner

its easier to just type "class", and cleaner

[clever sapphire]

i prefer metatables to classes

[spice cypress]

everyone is really familiar with the metatable oop pattern though so i don't think it will matter too much

[marble cosmos]

ig

[spice cypress]

it's like i don't bother with the new const keyword

it barely does anything and i save time by just not caring about it

[marble cosmos]

luau definitely didn't need const

[clever sapphire]

agreed

[marble cosmos]

but since its already there, there's no harm in using it ig

[spice cypress]

it will probably become more popular in the future, but since it's relatively new I don't think a lot of people are going to bother using it

idk if it's already a thing, but when they add like read only things that will probably have more use

[honest flower]

it really doesnt make your code cleaner

[clever sapphire]

agreed

[honest flower]

especially with how the method and data initializing is done

[marble cosmos]

typing class is objectively less work than the boilerplate metatable approach

[honest flower]

you have to use
function name()
and
public name

which are just unnecessary

especially since luau doesnt have private members

you also cant directly return classes either

[marble cosmos]

you don't have to call public on a function

or method

[honest flower]

you do

[marble cosmos]

you don't

[honest flower]

unless they changed that but as far as im aware you still do

.. huh??

[marble cosmos]

https://github.com/luau-lang/rfcs/blob/master/docs/syntax-classes.md

[honest flower]

isnt that what i literally just said

i cant tell if ur baiting or not

[marble cosmos]

you said you have to call public on a function bruh

you don't

[honest flower]

i did not??

lmfao

[honest flower]

oh well thats not what i meant

[rough cobalt]

How do I hire in the hire chat?

[marble cosmos]

i cant tell if ur baiting or not ngl

[honest flower]

i meant data in the class

either way thats still your fault cause you didnt understand what i said

[spice cypress]

i still don't understand what you said

[marble cosmos]

bruh you literally just said "you do" to me saying you don't

[honest flower]

because i was confused since i clearly did not mention you had to use public on functions

[spice cypress]

wait so are functions public by default?

[honest flower]

yes

[marble cosmos]

you put "public name" after the function

[honest flower]

its just the data that requires being specified as public

[honest flower]

brother

[marble cosmos]

yes

[honest flower]

😭

that is entirely your fault for misunderstanding

[spice cypress]

if you want it to be private do you have to use a private keyword

or do you just put no access modifier

[honest flower]

as far as im aware it doesnt even support private like always

[marble cosmos]

brother, and you saying "you do" after I said you don't is entirely your fault for misunderstanding

[spice cypress]

what's the point of having public and private then

[marble cosmos]

we're at a stalemate brother

[honest flower]

except MINE resulted from you thinking i said something i never said

dont act like an idiot

[marble cosmos]

still a misunderstanding

[honest flower]

brother 😭

u cant be serious

[clever sapphire]

i love hidden devs. rather than trying to productively converse, it becomes "your fault, not mine"

[clever sapphire]

maybe future plans

[marble cosmos]

ugh this dc server always causes conflict

[spice cypress]

i take it they won't have interfaces cuz you can just use types for that

[honest flower]

wouldve worked if the other person knew how to understand seperation

[quaint pine]

dummy.Parent = workspace
local humanoid = dummy:WaitForChild("Humanoid")
local Hrp = dummy:WaitForChild("HumanoidRootPart")
Hrp.Anchored = false
humanoid.WalkSpeed = 0
seat:Sit(humanoid)
humanoid.Sit = true
end guys im creating a dummy and making it sit altho why isnt it sitting on the seat

[marble cosmos]

dude just leave it alone, stop escalating

[quaint pine]

why is it just moving to the seat and not sitting on it

[honest flower]

theres a reason why i said 'the other person'

[clever sapphire]

no, its just that neither of you can have a productive conversation. arguments arent about being right or attacking the other. if you really cared, youd help the other party understand rather than desperately searching for openings to fault them

[honest flower]

if you dont want to be involved then dont respond

[quaint pine]

yo

[honest flower]

i did though

[marble cosmos]

you opened with negativity towards me, how am I supposed to respond to that

[clever sapphire]

you dont have enough self awareness. ill leave this here

[honest flower]

negativity obviously

[honest flower]

believe whatever you want to believe i guess

[quaint pine]

can someone help

[frigid prism]

does anyone want to test my game rq

[spice cypress]

there's no inheritance either is there with the new classes

[livid tendon]

ill play it

[marble cosmos]

#code-help

this is code discussion

[frigid prism]

alright

[honest flower]

as far as im aware no

[livid tendon]

guys if you dont hear from me then @frigid prism proly has my account

[marble cosmos]

they're still going to do it, just with another RFC unfortunately

[spice cypress]

it would make sense to not add inheritance considering that most modern languages have stopped using it

like go for example

stopped using it is a bad way of putting it, i mean like they don't have it at all

it's just interfaces and composition

also if they added inheritance they would then need additional access modifiers which would complicate it more

[honest flower]

i want a true oop implementation in roblox

private, protected, public, super, all of it

[marble cosmos]

defining a variable like this isn't unnecessary because you can add a type to it. Just like how other languages do it.

[spice cypress]

im just not a big fan of inheritance

[marble cosmos]

yes please

but roblox won't do that

[quaint pine]

whats this channel for then?

huh

[honest flower]

im more so talking about having to explicitly declare whatever it is

[marble cosmos]

its in the name

discussion

[quaint pine]

yea so i wanna discuss

[marble cosmos]

help is for help, discussion is for general code talk

[honest flower]

imo i think itd be perfectly possible to determine whether or not something is a function without the keyword being used

i dont really do programming languages though so maybe not

[spice cypress]

what do you mean like just do name()

[honest flower]

like
class Name
public method()
print("hello")
end
end

[spice cypress]

cuz that's how they work in the lox programming langauge, which is like a dummy language used for learning how to make programming langauges

[honest flower]

or even using
public type method

[spice cypress]

idm the function keyword

[honest flower]

not sure which is the easiest

[spice cypress]

i think it improves readability

[honest flower]

yeah, its a bit odd though

[spice cypress]

i suppose it's not technically a function, it's a method

[honest flower]

since as a user its easy to tell when its a function (?)

probably a different story for luau internal stuff though

[spice cypress]

i mean i suppose there's nothing wrong with getting rid of the function keyword

[marble cosmos]

when classes release, would you prefer them or the traditional metatable approach

[spice cypress]

it's not like c++ where you are going to get a most vexing parse

[spice cypress]

i would just stick to metatables

if i want classes then just use typescript

[marble cosmos]

how come

[spice cypress]

im familiar with metatables, and if it's just syntactic sugar for one then i don't like having 2 ways of doing the same thing

[honest flower]

if private exists ill use classes

[marble cosmos]

ig yeah

[honest flower]

otherwise there isnt really a reason in my opinion

[marble cosmos]

private would be great

[marble cosmos]

imo its because its cleaner

less code for the boilerplate

[honest flower]

fair

[spice cypress]

i don't really see the need for private tho, just prefix shit with an underscore if you want it show that it's private

[honest flower]

you can still access those though

[marble cosmos]

but i completely understand why people will still stick to metatable though

[spice cypress]

very unlikely to tho, it's a really well known pattern

or even m_ like in c++

[honest flower]

shrug, i still think that if theres a proper class implementation theres no reason why private shouldnt be added

[marble cosmos]

generally you want to only make public what actually needs to be public

so private would be nice because no more prefix crap

there's no reason to have a public function that isn't supposed to be accessed elsewhere

[honest flower]

also would like to be able to directly return classes

[marble cosmos]

^

[honest flower]

unless it got fixed you have to do
class x

return x

[spice cypress]

if you want to access the classes members do you have to use self.name or can you just do name

[honest flower]

i think it should be like normal oop,
self.name for public and name for private

[marble cosmos]

is export the only way?

[maiden cloak]

does anyone know where to find the collision group tab im losing my mind

[marble cosmos]

instead of returning it

[spice cypress]

cuz if you were able to just do name you would probably want to prefix private variables anyway to avoid having to type self everywhere

[honest flower]

export is just for types from what i remember

[spice cypress]

but if you have to use the self keyword then there is no need to prefix

[marble cosmos]

how do you even return a class then

[honest flower]

^

[marble cosmos]

oh

[honest flower]

this got showed to me by frooblar like a few days ago so maybe it changed

[marble cosmos]

i think it changed

[honest flower]

oh

[marble cosmos]

i don't like export ngl

[honest flower]

export is just very

eh

[marble cosmos]

then when you require the module, you have to write an extra reference

for no reason

[spice cypress]

i don't get why export is a thing, they could've made it so like you can define the type in the table you return from a module

[honest flower]

would look weird imo

[spice cypress]

yeah but export feels weird

[honest flower]

should just make a new system tbh

something like declare in typescript

[marble cosmos]

speaking of typescript, is roblox-ts even feasible for a full game

[spice cypress]

i don't see why it wouldn't be

[marble cosmos]

well its just the code that it generates

[solemn swift]

in c++ you can just make it private bruh

[spice cypress]

tho probably not a good idea if you start as like a solo project and then move on to wanting to hire more devs

[marble cosmos]

as well as when working with a team

[solemn swift]

the m_ is for clarity

[marble cosmos]

how does live team create scripting work with roblox-ts

does it just not

[spice cypress]

cuz they will be more familiar with lua than typescirpt

[solemn swift]

U could also use an opaque type

[honest flower]

its okay

[spice cypress]

yeah ik but m_ helps with local variables shadowing the class' members

so you don't have to use the this pointer

[honest flower]

its not really something i prefer but its decent if you like what typescript has

[spice cypress]

the code it generates isn't readable code

if you are using typescript you gotta sort of stick with typescript

[marble cosmos]

i mean typescript is awesome, but the fact that it has to convert it into luau

ehhh

[solemn swift]

it has upsides like being able to optimize a little better

[marble cosmos]

if only i could leave luau altogether, and have official ts support. just imagine that

[solemn swift]

i mean u use it for the types themselves which are a compile time concept

[spice cypress]

you also get access to npm packages tho i doubt a lot of them work

[solemn swift]

luau is like a bajillion times better than js

[spice cypress]

yeah lua is lightweight which is why it's used in roblox in the first place

[marble cosmos]

typescript

simply for its types

[solemn swift]

i dont know how good the compiler is though

[spice cypress]

it's supposed to just be a really simple langauge that interfaces with code written in c so that it can be embedded

[solemn swift]

tou know what ts transpiles to right

[spice cypress]

luau added a lot more features but it's still smallish

[solemn swift]

if roblox had ts support theyd have a js environment

[marble cosmos]

yes, but you don't have to code in js

[solemn swift]

which would be dookie

[marble cosmos]

you code in ts. and yes a lot of it is the same as js, but it is a breeze to work with

[honest flower]

lets just have the ability to use all of our own languages inside of roblox

[spice cypress]

you could technically build a vm for typescript so you don't have to transpile to javascript

[marble cosmos]

at least from my experience

[honest flower]

easy problem solved

[spice cypress]

or compile it to luau bytecode

[solemn swift]

fheres no reason to do that cuz the types are a compile time concept

[spice cypress]

yeah

[solemn swift]

compiling it to luau byecode would be better i guess

[spice cypress]

would still be pointless

[solemn swift]

it will use an llm to transpile everything to rust

Rust is the future

[spice cypress]

rust just wouldn't work in roblox 😭

it would have to be a very lobotimised version of rust

[solemn swift]

it would cuz its memory safe wnd blazing fasy Bro

[honest flower]

implicitly unsafe

[spice cypress]

i suppose that they could just remove unsafe

and add extra things to make sure that it's sandboxed properly

[solemn swift]

rust if it was good

c++67 will add safe blocks

[spice cypress]

modern c++ versions are pretty memory safe

you got like smart pointers and shit

[livid tendon]

that what we all say until someone makes it happen

[spice cypress]

the roblox api is built around it be interfaced with lua aswell so it wouldn't integrate nicely with rust

[solemn swift]

Yeah but it pmo

because if i dont wanna do 200 heap allocations i have to resort to ub

[steady bluff]

wsg everyone what yall up to

[sonic juniper]

@spice cypress

local runservice = game:GetService("RunService")
local raycaster = require(game:GetService("ReplicatedStorage").Raycaster)
local params = RaycastParams.new()


local function LockHum(Character)
    --deleted for space
end

--

-- (u+v)/2 = s/t
local function UseKinematics(HRP: BasePart)
    local kinematicCxn
    
    local s = 30
    local v = 0
    local a = -1 -- set later
    local t = 1
    local u = (s/t)*2 - v
    
    a = (v-u)/t
    
    local old = HRP.AssemblyLinearVelocity
    HRP.AssemblyLinearVelocity = (u * HRP.CFrame.LookVector) + old.Y*Vector3.yAxis
    
    local velocity = u
    local timecount = 0
    
    kinematicCxn = runservice.Heartbeat:Connect(function(dt)
        velocity += a*dt
        timecount += dt
        
        local old = HRP.AssemblyLinearVelocity
        HRP.AssemblyLinearVelocity = velocity * HRP.CFrame.LookVector + old.Y*Vector3.yAxis
        
        if timecount >= t then
            kinematicCxn:Disconnect()
        end
    end)
    
    return kinematicCxn
end

local function raycastSafety(Character, alignOri, kinematicCxn)    
    local cxn
    cxn = runservice.Heartbeat:Connect(function()
        local hit = raycaster.Cast(Character.HumanoidRootPart.Position, Character.HumanoidRootPart.AssemblyLinearVelocity.Unit * 1.5, params, 0)

        if hit then
            cxn:Disconnect()
            kinematicCxn:Disconnect()
            Character.Humanoid:ChangeState(Enum.HumanoidStateType.Running)
        end
    end)
end

--

return function(Character)
    local HRP = Character:WaitForChild("HumanoidRootPart")
    local Humanoid = Character:WaitForChild("Humanoid")
    local Animator = Humanoid:WaitForChild("Animator")

    params.FilterDescendantsInstances = {Character}

    local alignOri = LockHum(Character)
    local kinematicCxn = UseKinematics(HRP)
    raycastSafety(Character, alignOri, kinematicCxn)
end

same problem?

the same friction thing occurs

so i assume i did sum wrong

cus what you said DID make a bit of sense

(I just dont wanna make it more complex to get what i want so i hope i was wrong)

[spice cypress]

i said that suvat was probably too complex for a dash

if that's what this is

you can just set the assembly linear velocity to a constant value every frame

i also used presim instead of heartbeat but i don't think it matters too much

[fair siren]

Hi so. I currently have a server script talking to my state manager. Trying to use it to apply a vector force to my character from server side based on the lookvector but everytime I apply it in game I get rubbed banded or it straight up doesn't work.. Is the only way to do something like that by having it in a localscript?

[cloud atlas]

set your vectorforce to apply at the part's center of mass

[hollow turtle]

what types of games are popular rn

[stone rapids]

ones with people

[hollow turtle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/weird-spongebob-oblivious-THj5QURAqrfyPcblu4

[jolly vessel]

Thats true tho

[near wasp]

who knows how to do a editable mesh

[twilit stump]

How do i get this function:

local SigmaTable = {
{[Name] = "A"}
{[Name] = "Lol"}
{[Name] = "This"}
}

local function Imaginary()

end

print(Imaginary("Lol")) -- 2

[regal salmon]

what do you mean?

[twilit stump]

Nevermind

[regal salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-forest-gif-25613852

[glacial creek]

traumatized pou

[limpid flare]

Who codes

[cursive crown]

so for my soccer game I wanna make a pass move should I use bodyvelocity or tween for passing?

[near wasp]

who knows how to do a editable mesh

[plucky brook]

Anyone know how to make a tree cutting and spawning system like oaklands and lumber tycoon

[stone rapids]

yeah

the people who made oaklands and lumber tycoon most likely

[plucky brook]

.

[noble mural]

.

[modern seal]

.

[noble mural]

.

[vestal linden]

i can make one how much money do you have

[plucky brook]

Depends how much u want, do you know how to make it like Oakland’s kind of

[vestal linden]

yes i can go to dms

[noble mural]

..

[outer monolith]

Does anyone here have experience writing a combat system for R6?

[young bone]

i

you should check out the new api in beta that makes editable meshes actually usable

it will revolutionize procedural generation in Roblox imo

CreateDataModelContentAsync

[next tinsel]

.../../../..__../

[near wasp]

who knows how to do a editable mesh

[cedar lance]

@pale condor hey, you open for hire?

[lost dragon]

Need help?

[noble mural]

hmm

[cedar lance]

nah just looking to hire

[noble mural]

tell

to hire

i can

do

what

uwant

[noble mural]

bro

[cedar lance]

lol

[regal salmon]

#marketplace-info

[ornate needle]

Anyobody knows some site game coders? 2D or 3d

[modest hound]

yi

[limpid burrow]

Guys i have some questions on exploitation

why is Putting some anti cheat in client script and placing it in startercharacterscripts, terrible for Moderation?

idk why but if i change a client script while in game from client

it doesnt change anything

so why do people say its bad for moderation

and or if there is a Exception

[rare wyvern]

I'm pretty sure the client can just delete it

[limpid burrow]

really?

lemme test

[rare wyvern]

i think so

[limpid burrow]

so does that mean i can place

write anything in a script and client cant delete the lines?

[rare wyvern]

deleting the script would stop it from running

I'm not sure if anything has been done about that by roblox in more recent times

[limpid burrow]

oh dang your right

[rare wyvern]

but if you had a local script that's performing whatever kind of check then any exploit can just delete it to prevent that

which is why server side anti cheats are the only truly reliable thing for the most part

[limpid burrow]

yeah that sucks

[rare wyvern]

it's not hard to prevent most exploits either way

[limpid burrow]

does roblox server authority even do anything?

[rare wyvern]

it stops them from doing things like flying or teleporting I'm pretty sure

haven't tried it to know if there's any issues

but it basically just prevents the client from manipulating their character in certain ways

[limpid burrow]

i tried it, AND BY GOD

[rare wyvern]

it pretty much prevents most of the exploits that aren't caused by a game dev's own code having some kind of vulnerability

[limpid burrow]

IT F ING SUCKS

[rare wyvern]

I would imagine server authority might increase input delay or something

[limpid burrow]

im using a dash ability and i eep getting teleported back

if i jump more than one time

i get teleported back

[rare wyvern]

yeah i don't really know what you could do about that

it could be ping related

[real karma]

do I create animations for fake arms in the camera instance or is it possible to use animations which have used a whole dummy model and not fake arms or whatsoever

[warm seal]

Any scripters here that are experienced with combat and vfx related stuff?

[regal salmon]

#marketplace-info

[regal salmon]

just ask your question, itll save you time

[strong sigil]

occlusion

[warm seal]

I need to send some videos too

[regal salmon]

you have the correct level to do so

[warm seal]

Theyre long tho

U mind if i dm u?

[regal salmon]

sending them here wont be any different to sending them to someone in dms

servers dont have a separate size/length limit

and if theyre too big, just send them through a file sharing service like youtube or streamable

[gaunt pagoda]

"anti-cheat" client scripts are complet BS. dont use them. all anti-cheat must be on server

[regal salmon]

i doubt i'll be able to answer your question, i'm just trying to make it easier to find someone who can

people are going to be more skeptical about responding to something vague asking for proficiency in a skill because it may end up being a waste of time/embarrassing if they fail to know how to do it

so presenting your question upfront allows you to get people who actually know what they're doing rather than people who think they might but also could not

more explanation here: http://dontasktoask.com/

[warm seal]

But when put in game they look like this

So these are the vfx and animations for my game

Any idea why it does that and how to fix it?

[iron oyster]

looks pretty good

[iron oyster]

does what and what?

is the ingame version different?

[warm seal]

Thanks

[warm seal]

If u watch the clip i sent u will see but basically the vfx in the game looks off and blurry and just not smooth

[iron oyster]

this looks like a mix of multiple facors, are you not accounting for the particleemitter's emitcount and emitdelay?

[warm seal]

Eventho the original vfx looks good

[iron oyster]

VFX plugisn tend to put them as attributes

also its because of lighting

your in game lighting seems like it has some either depthoffield effect or blureffect on top

also the bloom is very high

[warm seal]

So what would u recommend we do?

[iron oyster]

well adjust the in game lighting ofc

[warm seal]

Alr thanks!

[agile verge]

@lavish spear cool
is it editable mesh?

[lavish spear]

🤷‍♂️

Half yes

[agile verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286797255826870303/1350196379880001636/togif.gif

[lavish spear]

WHAHAHAHAHA

[agile verge]

what does that even mean

[lavish spear]

I mean it half Yes

[agile verge]

whats the other half?

[lavish spear]

Secret

Shh

[agile verge]

ok

[patent sonnet]

how much would it cost to hire a scripter to make top notch ui animations, like make it super responsive and satisfying

[tropic fiber]

alot

[patent sonnet]

usd

[tropic fiber]

$alot

[patent sonnet]

a lot doesn’t help

a lot could be like 10 grand or 100 bucks

[tropic fiber]

well it depends on how you want the person to code it, they could be doing your ui using reactivity with libraries like vide, fusion or roact

which will cost way more

[patent sonnet]

no clue what any of those mean

i’ll research a bit tho

[tropic fiber]

dm

[stuck rose]

i died

[nova yarrow]

@tropic fiber wat does fullstack beginner mean

[nova yarrow]

thats so easy

so probably not alot

[azure coral]

100-1000 robux

[tropic fiber]

fullstack stands for a developer coding in both the backend and frontend (or server and client if you don't know what backend and frontend mean)

[wicked eagle]

700k

usd

i mean

gbp

[near wasp]

does anyone how to do editable meshes

[wicked eagle]

yeah

[feral night]

Like 20k rbx max

Ui animations just require using tween service

Tweening the size up and down, moving it, etc.

Its like an hour or two job

[silk crypt]

id say it takes 30 mins unless its like a bunch of ui

[wicked eagle]

an hour for tweening?!

[feral night]

Yea thats what im sayin

He did say "very high quality"

So yea

Adds up to an hour

[silk crypt]

it costs 20k robux though? its like so easy to learn i learned it in 5 minutes by just seeing examples

[feral night]

I said max

Like max pay him 20k

If its a bunch of ui's etc

[whole condor]

Did those toxic people finally get muted

[wicked eagle]

we lowk just making up numbers

[feral night]

We still have a 12 yr old with us

[whole condor]

?

[feral night]

Sadly☹️

[feral night]

This guy

[whole condor]

Oh that’s one of his friends

[icy lake]

what are y'all talking about

what's 20k robux

[wicked eagle]

why are you still hating

[silk crypt]

tweening ui

[feral night]

Tweening ui

[icy lake]

let me see the ui

[silk crypt]

no just overall tweening ui, as in how much it costs

[wicked eagle]

im just correcting your crazy ideas of how much effort TWEENING a UI is

[feral night]

Someone asked how much it cost

And we answered

[icy lake]

it depends

people do UIs really differently

[feral night]

Btw why does bro have the "not hireable" role💀

[icy lake]

so it's not as simple as just one tweening line

[silk crypt]

@icy lake

[feral night]

Yea

[wicked eagle]

cuz im busy with other projects

[feral night]

He did say high quality

[wicked eagle]

its pretty self explanatory

[icy lake]

really depends on the UI and what you exactly want but tweening UI isn't easy

could be up to 50k robux