code-discussion

[timber cloak]

thats the only time someone asks that kind of question

[minor jacinth]

tf is an attribute

i gotta stick to my brainrot games icl

[timber cloak]

its basically a custom property

remember uhhh Object Values

Like the value class objects

[minor jacinth]

yeah i know that stuff

[minor jacinth]

idk roblox terminology icl

[timber cloak]

yea basically just a custom property

(which shoulda existed a decade ago)

[minor jacinth]

cant they see properties on a simple dex explorer script

[minor jacinth]

why would anyone create a custom prop

[timber cloak]

a lot of reasons, you can attach information directly to objects themselves and listen to changes in them

like other objects

shortcuts having to listen to changes in value objects or using remote event to send signals that stuff changed, you can just listen directly to changes from the object itself

[minor jacinth]

doesn't seem like ima need them for brainrot slop i guess

[timber cloak]

i mean, i recommend using them

streamlines a lot of stuff

[faint plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162762431072845966/1409550898086019072/image.gif?ex=69f21b12&is=69f0c992&hm=eaa54119f8da58bf61e3c8599bad50856032f02250a5f5e5d470828e1bc3ab5c

[minor jacinth]

stream what thats the thing i enable in workspace right

[timber cloak]

its basically a chunk loader

ngl

its a level of detail mechanic that offloads distant stuff and makes them lower quality, yk how games are

thats roblox's version of that

only really use it if you know your game has hella models and stuff in it

[minor jacinth]

oh i should impolement that

i got some users on 2gb devices that crash

[timber cloak]

make sure your structures are in model objects, then set the StreamingMode Property to Atomic

atomic is a fancy way of saying "if the player gets out of range, offload the entire model, not bits and pieces of it"

[cloud sail]

2gb mobile phones

[minor jacinth]

@claude fix all my errors

[faint plume]

-- // Services

local Players = game:GetService("Players")

-- // References
local  Part3 = workspace.Part3
local Part4 = workspace.Part4
local Part5 = workspace.Part5
local Part6 = workspace.Part6

-- // Variables

Part3.Anchored = true
Part4.Anchored  = true
Part5.Anchored =  true
Part6.Anchored = true
local locked = false

Part3.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    local players = Players:GetPlayerFromCharacter(hit.Parent)
    
    if locked then return end
    
    if players then
        locked = true
        Part3.Transparency = 1
        Part4.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Really red")
        Part5.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Really red")
        Part6.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Really red")
        task.wait(2)
        locked = false
    end
end)

Part4.Changed:Connect(function(property)
    if property == "BrickColor" then
        print("Part4 is now Red")
    end
end)

Part5.Changed:Connect(function(property)
    if property == "BrickColor" then
        print("Part5 is now Red")
    end
end)

Part6.Changed:Connect(function(property)
    if property == "BrickColor" then
        print("Part6 is now Red")
    end
end)```

can someone tell me whats wrong with ym code?

[viral light]

whats the error

[regal salmon]

what problem are you having

[faint plume]

I have none

[regal salmon]

if youre not having a problem then why would there be something wrong with the code

[mossy lynx]

Ai code

[bitter drift]

hey i got a question is it bad to polish your code with ai once you have the blueprint down?

[faint plume]

its not??

I made it myself I can show you my history also Im new to learning

and learning from documentation

[faint plume]

idk I wanted to give someone a pop quiz

[bitter drift]

touched fires a lot ig

thats the only thing i can really see

could cause some issues down the line

[mossy lynx]

It is lmao I don’t say it’s a bad thing but it is or it’s copy pasted code or someone else wrote it

[bitter drift]

how can you tell its ai?

[mossy lynx]

the labels my guy

this code is shit tho

[bitter drift]

oh like the -- // Services?

[mossy lynx]

@faint plume use modules

Learn how to use them I js started learning when I was better at scripting

Ur js spamming functions

Or use tables

My bad

[faint plume]

Thats not ai i can show proof through my history if you want to see proof

also mutiple people label their scripts services, and variables, and references.

[mossy lynx]

Sure man

But learn how to use tables/modules

[faint plume]

I dont think Im on that level yet

Honestly, that assingment was an assingment that one of my tutor gave me

[mossy lynx]

nah it’s easy

U have a tutor bruh

[faint plume]

ik what a table is and how it works

yeah

2 of em

[mossy lynx]

rich asf

[faint plume]

I want to learn scripting the manual way

no ai or anything

[mossy lynx]

Ai on top

[faint plume]

fuck no

[mossy lynx]

Not for writing code though

Js learning

[faint plume]

its only good for posting slop games that you dont care about

Im an investor

[mossy lynx]

nah fo learning

[faint plume]

why would i pay somone with %

[mossy lynx]

Not making scripts

[faint plume]

ai is ass for learning

once you learn from it you'll rely on it

learn from documentation and other scripters

[mossy lynx]

no u won’t

Dw u won’t reach professional like me ever

Cuz u don’t use ai

[slow hull]

?????

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326238561657425923/1498862772451152023/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_6.gif

[quaint spear]

Hahaaha lowkey agree w u, no one will actually help you to learn even basic shit

[thin mist]

nah people will help

ive gotten a lot of it

[faint plume]

???

professional with learnign scripting through ai?

yeahhhh LOL

have fun vibe coding

yt tutorials

and praticing

and vc

and chat

all exsist btw

[viral light]

@faint plume he aint a pro but you can definitely learn a lot through ai too

[faint plume]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[faint plume]

vibe coding is ntot he way to go

[viral light]

i didnt say vibe coding

[faint plume]

I feel like if you use ai you'll become to reliant on it

which is why I dont use it

I rather learn through tutorials and sturgglign to acutally learn

[manic sundial]

you know that almost every AI has access to the roblox documentation since they scrape the web and you can actively ask them to assist you in learning and point you to specific instances of the docs.

[faint plume]

yeah thats true but thats what scripting is resouring and researching

if you cant do that on your own then your just extremely lazy

you can get the same docs and information from roblox documentation and yt

[manic sundial]

"yeah guys if you cant use the tool that activley holds the information of the entire internet essentually you are lazy cause you dont want to spend 30 minutes finding a single dev forum answer on page 3 of google"

you have no clue what your talking about

[viral light]

that changes between people and wahtever their goal is but since you want to learn you probably wont become reliant on it

[faint plume]

defintion of lazy? and no one said you cant google it.

Google and ai is two different things

[faint plume]

the entire internet was using google before ai right?

or edge

then because of laziness and people trying to make their "life easier" they went to ai

[manic sundial]

yeah the entire world was manually weaving before people made to tool to weave stuff automatically so you should actually still hand weave cause otherwise your lazy guys

[faint plume]

Exactly.

My point

Thats why their so many vibe coders out here

[umbral scarab]

guys

[faint plume]

Because all they do is rely on ai

[zenith wyvern]

this is not right

of a comparison

[faint plume]

to answer questions they can figure out on their own.

[umbral scarab]

is it possible to use editableimage with surfaceappereance?

[zenith wyvern]

ai is like your dad doing homework for you and you end up failing the math test because you did none of the work and didnt learn anything

[faint plume]

exactly why I script manually and learn the hard way

your NOT acutally retaining none of that information when you script with ai.

and if you did good for you

[viral light]

you can still do fine on the test if you bother to understand how it did the homework

[faint plume]

but ai is a shortcut either way youll like to state it

[faint plume]

but most people dont and thats why we dont have any more talented scripters any more

[viral light]

there are a lot of talented scripters

[faint plume]

most of them put in "make this game for me"

[faint plume]

its becoming a shortage

based off everything I see

I run into a "scripter" they most likely vibe code.

Nah learn ts the hard way

[manic sundial]

Yeah but these people arent saying to only use ai when scripting are they? They are saying to use it as a learning tool as it can provide you examples of what to do then have you repeat it. You are activley not using a new tool that could assist you and make your life easier because you "Want to do it the harder way". I have scripted for 6 years and did the exact method you are talking about and it doesnt make it easier, not using AI is just stupid and activley makes it more annoying and difficult for new scripters to learn scripting. There is no point.

[faint plume]

MOST people dont do this.

Also its not stupid

before ai you had google

just google it

either way you put its still you putting a low amount of effort to figuring out a problem you could've done your self

[manic sundial]

I jsut explained the pains of googling it, you spend 30 minutes trying to find an answer that explains your problem from a single dev forum post on page 3 of google. AI already has access to that information they can explain to you whats wrong and how to fix it. People who ONLY use AI and call themselves scripters arent scripters. If you are saying that then yes, but using AI as an actual learning tool is a real thing and very useful.

[faint plume]

Then answer this

What do you do if chatgpt hallunicates?

[frail plaza]

optimal?

[faint plume]

Also for your portion here " People who ONLY use AI and call themselves scripters arent scripters. If you are saying that then yes, but using AI as an actual learning tool is a real thing and very useful." thats exactly what im saying

[manic sundial]

I dont use chatgpt so that wouldnt happen

[manic sundial]

I saw you responding to a guy who was asying that using AI as a tool wasnt real scripting no?

[feral steeple]

If you were learning from AI it'd probably be claude but if the AI hallucinates THEN you just look it up, AI is just a more efficient google

[thin mist]

what does this even mean

[gusty fog]

did you know you can remove the parenthesis here

[faint plume]

It means that its information starts to go haywire meaning its unreliable.

[frail plaza]

oh really?

never knew that

[faint plume]

Not really

Both can get you the same resources.

[feral steeple]

and AI does it quicker

therefore its more efficient

[frail plaza]

this is what the class looks like btw

[faint plume]

So, instead of me taking the time to go acutally find resource and feeling accomplished I should go to ai and immeditaley get the answer?

[viral light]

you feel accomplished by clicking links

[feral steeple]

So you're just a masochist?

[faint plume]

Theres no sense of accomplishments

[quaint spear]

Some may but can they boost your knowledge nah

[manic sundial]

what are you acomplishing by clicking links bro?

[faint plume]

I feel accomplished by doing the script myself

not by having ai do it for me

[feral steeple]

he wasn't saying to have AI script it for you he was saying to use it as a learning tool

[frail plaza]

he feels accomplished by researching and finding out how to do something on his own without training wheels

[feral steeple]

?

[viral light]

not clicking links is training wheels?

[faint plume]

Exactly, I feel like I acutally accomplished something

[faint plume]

To me thats still lazier

[frail plaza]

asking ai for all the info is infact training wheels

[faint plume]

You still take time to do the script yourself and feel more accomplished.

[manic sundial]

by clicking links you are activley looking for someone elses explanation or code snippet so you just feel more accomplished finding someone elses answer rather than just asking an ai?

[frail plaza]

i personaly prefer to do my own research and go on obscure sights/research papers to find out how to do things i don't know

it makes me feel more accomplished

[faint plume]

Even if I did "click links" my script would be accustomed to what I acutally needed for whereas ai would automatically give you the answers.

[feral steeple]

You could call it "lazier" but its literally just google except you dont need to click through links yourself, you get no educational value out of using google over AI

[frail plaza]

and gives me a deeper knowledge and understanding of something

[faint plume]

and at least I did it myself

[faint plume]

SO you get where Im coming from

[quaint spear]

Want to learn scripting, USE AI
Doing actual output do it, YOURSELF

Thats all

[faint plume]

HORRIBLE advice.

[quaint spear]

How come

[viral light]

so if i wanted understand how to get the position of a part vs a model vs an attachment, it would be better for me to do several searches/clicks in google opening more links, than to just get a summary explanation in one area, even though I will receive the same information

[frail plaza]

I didn't use ai and have made hundreds of thousands of robux from comms

just learn it yourself

[faint plume]

why do you think there's yt vids, documentation, and other scripters here? why do you think there's code help and code discussion here?

[frail plaza]

and grow a passion

[faint plume]

Its a reason all of this is here.

Its for your benefit and to learn

Ai is going to evuntally take that way from you.

[feral steeple]

ok but why watch a 30 minute video where the guy is taking forever to explain it when I could get all of the information I need in one paragraph

[viral light]

head canon

[faint plume]

Well me personally I watch brawldev

[quaint spear]

Well i learned scriptin 2019, but with ai shi it expanded my knowledge

[frail plaza]

Because in that video it gives you a deeper depth

[faint plume]

and alvinblox

and there amazing at explainign things.

[manic sundial]

"why the hell would you use google? Are you lazy? Do you not want to learn or something?? There is a library right down the street man!"

[little ridge]

indeed

[polar linden]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-ohio-respect-foxy-gif-17451501218491172722

[feral steeple]

I still have the ability to search if I need more extensive information, but if I want to learn something quickly and don't need to know all of it's ins and outs then whats the point of using google over AI?

im not saying to entirely abandon google

[faint plume]

Im sorry but as a beginner I WOULD never use ai when there's tools and resources already out there for me to learn. Call me a masochist or whatever but I rather feel accomplished by taking a day to learn something than take a 10-15 mins going to ai and not having a full understanding of what they're providing you.

[frail plaza]

it's like being spoonfed the answers

[faint plume]

quite literally

its tell you the shit as you go and giving you answers you could've understood by yourself.

[feral steeple]

Why does using AI mean you don't have a full understanding? Never said to just let it script for you, said to use it as a learning material and have it teach you?

[quaint spear]

Yeah go waste your time watching that video explaining a singlefunction that can be understood in a minute

[faint plume]

then later on you dont even know what the shit is telling you or providing you

[faint plume]

At least Ill have a deeper understanding of what im doing unlike some vibe coders out there.

[frail plaza]

the video explaining multiple use cases and the proper way to use the function, along with understanding the fundamentals of it and how it works

[feral steeple]

ok but vibe coders and people who use AI to learn are different

[faint plume]

your still a vibe coder...??

[frail plaza]

regardless, ai is shit and i'll stay reading wikipedias and devforums

[faint plume]

your learnignf rom ai

[manic sundial]

You litteraly just dont know how to use ai then. If you go to school and a teacher tells you about a way to solve something they dont think you are familliar with it immediately, They give you problems for you to solve yourself. Its the same way with AI. If you are trying to learn something through AI then you should ask for example problems with the stuff you just learned. You dont spend a whole day but you spend an hour or 2 learning something and then putting that thing to practice to understand it more.

[frail plaza]

no

[viral light]

😭

[frail plaza]

a vibe coder

i someone

who uses ai

to code

not to learn

[feral steeple]

if I learn how something works from AI and then use it myself in the future that does not mean im a vibe coder?

[frail plaza]

different subject matters

[faint plume]

Okay so I have my terminology mixed up myb.

[frail plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/system-school-whatbrosendsme-brofailedonetest-failed-gif-9759460224506083272

[faint plume]

But anyways, personally I would rather take all day learning something and having a deeper understanding of it then understand it but partially.

thats the people who are going to make it in the long run.

[thin mist]

ragebait final boss

[quaint spear]

Peak debate, but hahaha yall have point

[faint plume]

I already apologized.

[quaint spear]

Have a niceday everyone

[faint plume]

I got my terminology mixed up

[feral steeple]

So you'd rather learn calculus yourself instead of having your math teacher explain it to you?

[frail plaza]

yes

[faint plume]

so heres the thing.

I said "documentation, yt vids."

are they not teachers?

[viral light]

my goat

[feral steeple]

I guess bro.

[faint plume]

your point made no sense.

[thin mist]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-low-raven-crow-real-science-low-i-q-gif-17338607635233300977

[feral steeple]

they are but AI is a teacher all the same, one you can interact with even.

[viral light]

@faint plume teachers are a shortcut though

[faint plume]

You can interact with coders and scripters all the time through code disuccsion and code help

[frail plaza]

I learned how to make a 3d engine just using forums and wikis, understanding the reasons and fundamentals for why they work the way they do

[faint plume]

so you admit that ai is a shortcut.

[viral light]

you could just read the hundreds of words on each page of a text book and have a much deeper understanding of the subject

[frail plaza]

yes

[viral light]

but if you used a teacher you wouldnt understand as much

[manic sundial]

No, they cannot respond to your specific strengths and weaknesses in a category or region of said topic. They are one and done videos that explain the topic in no more detail than needed.

[faint plume]

Um yes they can?

They literally have discords to help with your code and help explain you how your code could be wrong.

[manic sundial]

what kind of fucking youtube are you watching where it can understand your strengths and weaknesses

[feral steeple]

ok but why not get the same explanation from AI in 30 seconds instead of asking a question in a forum and it taking an hour for a response?

[faint plume]

so does hidden dev

[manic sundial]

yeah so just go talk to a human who TEACHES you, thats not a youtube video dude.

[faint plume]

So is ai an human?

Thats TECHINCALLY what you just told me.

[manic sundial]

In a sense it talks like a human, and can understand what you need, it is by every definition a human esque teacher

[feral steeple]

It gives the same explanation a human would 99% of the time

[faint plume]

unless i misunderstood

[faint plume]

A computer does not think like a human

and if you believe that then you've already lost the argument

[frail plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[feral steeple]

sure, but the output most generative AI give you today is meant for human consumption and is explained in a way for humans to understand?

[faint plume]

no.

[frail plaza]

It is explained in a way for humans to be able to easily use it with no understanding of the concept

[faint plume]

Its used to help you but its not the best resource

[feral steeple]

Not if you just ask for a better explanation when that happens but I guess man

[faint plume]

You still wont understand it on a deeper level

[frail plaza]

A majority of devforum posts explain the absolute fundamentals instead of just a code piece for whatever problem you have

litteraly just spoonfeeding you

[feral steeple]

Ok but AI can do that too if you ask it to??

[faint plume]

no

no it cant

[feral steeple]

It can though.

[manic sundial]

you should be a philosophy major if you really want to understand things on such a deep level man. You clealy dont want to change your opinion so there is no point arguing with you and i think that random should also see that

[faint plume]

again, you run into the problem with ai that it starts to have fallacies and hallunciates

[frail plaza]

And why would i waste my time with an untrustworthy source when i can just research it myself and genuinely gain a better knowledge on the topic?

[faint plume]

Isn't that a two way street?

[feral steeple]

30 seconds for an answer vs hours of researching

[viral light]

why would it hallucinate when youre just asking for an explanation

[faint plume]

to having a deeper understanding

[faint plume]

Ask the people who use it that also know that it tends to hallunciates and give you bad pratices to use while coding.

[frail plaza]

Hours of researching and understanding the topic at a deeper level, not only that but recognizing the people who put in the research and speaking with people who are professionals in the area.

so again

[viral light]

which bad practices

[frail plaza]

spoonfeeding vs actualy learning the topic

[frail plaza]

ai still uses pairs() yo

[faint plume]

for example, code-help and code-diccusion.

I feel like anyone who uses AI makes up any excuse for a short cut of learning

[frail plaza]

you're just regurgitating the same argument now

[faint plume]

MIGHT just be me

[feral steeple]

I'm not understanding the topic at a deeper level by spending more time on finding the same information, trust me I can research lol ive spent years coding in c++, but AI is just better than google in most situations

[faint plume]

than thats why you go to professionals

Let me ask you a question

if you have a broken car

[frail plaza]

i'd rather speak with professionals in the area and know who put in the research

[faint plume]

what are you prone to go to ai and fuck up your car even more or a mechanic who can acutally know where your problem lies and has a deeper understanding of it

[feral steeple]

I won't lie bro this might be a bad start to your analogy cars are easy af to work with

[faint plume]

it depends on the situation

point is

okay yk what new comparison

you want a hair cut

Who you going to ai or the barber?

[feral steeple]

the AI cant cut my hair so probably the barber.

[faint plume]

exaclty my point

[feral steeple]

ok but an AI can explain code to me despite not being able to physically cut my hair

[faint plume]

1. You reponse show a sign of laziness.
2. You understand that going to a professional who has a deeper understanding of a concept is PROBABLY the best road to go
3. You just answered this debate in your own words without admitting it.

[feral steeple]

Taking the more efficient option ≠ lazy

[faint plume]

Sure buddy

Sure

[manic sundial]

Thats a straw man argument buddy

He never said that

[faint plume]

He did say that though

[manic sundial]

your also spamming red herrings

[manic sundial]

no he didnt, you brought up if you would to an ai to cut your hair. AI CANNOT PHYSICALLY CUT HAIR CAN IT?

what is your argument dude??

[feral steeple]

"Yeah bro, I'd rather spend 5 hours than 30 seconds to get the exact same explanation word for word"

[faint plume]

Infact from his text I can infer three things " AI cant cut my hair" whose to say you cant learn to cut your own hair. "Probably the barber" the BARBER has the most knowledge on the topic therefore knowing better pratices.

[feral steeple]

I have no need to learn to cut my own hair, and I said "Probably the barber" because the AI is literally physically incapable of cutting my hair?

[faint plume]

but it can teach can it not? from waht you said earlier.

[faint plume]

Again laziness

[manic sundial]

so there is a differnce between wanting to learn something and a physical thing. You are asking if he wants to buy a service or not. Someone wants to go to a proffesional for a service cause they 1. dont have the tools and 2. dont want to mess it up like you said. But he is not buying a service when googling online, there is no threat of messing up really badly and damaging your own property if you dont go to a professional.

[faint plume]

Isnt that the same thing with code.

[feral steeple]

that makes no sense

I'm not able to learn everything, I have a finite amount of time

[faint plume]

Say for example ai gives you an unoptimize code and it makes your game lag. YES your using ai pratice you could probably fix it up but how would you know a better way to fix that code to its peak preformance.

[faint plume]

Time is only judged on how much effort you give.

[feral steeple]

???

buddy is NOT a philosopher

[manic sundial]

Your argument is irrational and you are saying that because someone doesnt want to spend hours looking for an answer to explain their problem and likely not find anything else, then they are lazy for rather going to an ai to find the exact answer they would have gotten. They are not getting a "deeper understanding" spending time trying to find an answer. They are not doccuments or something if they are on dev forums. Doccuments are different since that is a source of truth but dev forums are litteraly anything goes so using AI to find the answer you would get is the exact same thing as finding an aswer on dev forums. Do you understand that dude? like can this not get through your skull that they are the same exact thing???

[faint plume]

no

no you wouldnt

[manic sundial]

Yes

[faint plume]

going to a professional dev can teach you methods you probably wouldnt even think of

[manic sundial]

yes you would

[faint plume]

or ai probably wouldnt even think of

AGAIN cause its NOT human

[manic sundial]

theres no point in arguing with you once again

you are litteraly so stuck in your post here you will not change your option AT ALL

[faint plume]

If you say so

Continue to learn through ai

[worldly spear]

🍿

[faint plume]

its your choice

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-i-mean-gif-3535627793955785136

[feral steeple]

But it does not need to be human to teach me a simple concept that I would have found otherwise if I spent an hour looking for it.

[manic sundial]

i dont learn through ai cause i know everything i will litteraly need

[faint plume]

sure

sure you do

[manic sundial]

i ahve spent 6 years doing this and what you are saying is not needed

[faint plume]

it is needed.

[manic sundial]

i did the exact route you are talking about right now

[faint plume]

Debugging is a process.

[manic sundial]

it doesnt help me to do that rather than ask ai

[faint plume]

Also btw

game design is a thing.

for game design do you use ai?

[manic sundial]

oh really i didnt know that man thanks so much

[faint plume]

no

[feral steeple]

what does this have to do with anything??

[faint plume]

because its orginal thinking

[manic sundial]

no i dont use ai cause i learend my own game design

[faint plume]

sure you do

anyways

[feral steeple]

we're talking about having it teach you how to code

not if its good at game design or not

[faint plume]

coding starts with game deisgn.

[manic sundial]

i use ai to organize my code whenever im done writing stuff. You can also ask ai what is wrong with your code and it will point out why and what you should change

[faint plume]

you cant code good without good game design.

LOL

[manic sundial]

thats not true

not everything is a game you know that

small rpograms are good code but dont have "game design"

[faint plume]

if I was a 6 year developer I would love to know whats wrong with my code off my own knowledge

so with every issuse you have your just going to go to ai?

[manic sundial]

yeah most of the time its syntax

[manic sundial]

if its somethign i cant solve then yes

[feral steeple]

I guarantee you there are multiple people out there that would not make a good game by themselves but could code almost anything you ask of them.

[manic sundial]

and it fixes it and i learn from what it fixed cause i visually see the difference

[faint plume]

thats the thing you can solve it you just rely on it to much.

[manic sundial]

yeah i rely on it too much cause when i cant solve an issue then going to ai to find out what the problem is is overreliance

im just saying man have you ever thought what we are trying to say at all?

[faint plume]

Again, im sure a 6-7 year dev can figure out debugging

but

YOU

a 6-7 year dev

use ai to do it

So I this argument is pointless

[feral steeple]

the core of this argument was not his debugging capabilities 😭

[faint plume]

can you not read?

[feral steeple]

can you not read? "the CORE of this argument"

[faint plume]

hes using ai to figure out issuses that he HIMSELF could've figured out.

[manic sundial]

when did i say i use ai to debug everything??
I can easily debug something based on the error console gives its not hard to read those. The problem is when i encounter something that i DONT know how to solve after trying for a while then i WILL go to ai and it WILL explain to me what i did wrong and how i CAN fix the thing

[faint plume]

Your still using it

it deosnt matter

[feral steeple]

the core of the argument was whether AI can be effectively used to learn or not

[manic sundial]

so when you screenshot me saying something i CANT SOLVE that means i can solve it??

are you blind?

[faint plume]

this argument was started from someone laughing at me for learning it the manual way

then people who use ai to learn came at me trying to say that I WOULD take forever to learn even though my way allows me to gain a deeper understanding.

which is important in scripting

[feral steeple]

I didn't see that, so my fault on that but at this point it isnt the main point of the argument

[manic sundial]

yeah so i rather go searching for an answer that is a code snippet from like 4 years ago with no explanation on why its fixed? that doesn't help me dude, what you are saying makes no sense???

[faint plume]

Then go to acutal devs

??

[manic sundial]

how does it give you a deeper understanding

[faint plume]

whole point of code dicussion and code help ebign there

[feral steeple]

Why does taking more time to recieve the same answer word for word give you a deeper understanding

[faint plume]

Cause I would understand the full thing

[manic sundial]

no offense the people in this server are like you and dont actually help people a majority of the time, they are on higher ground like you since you think you are so much superior to those who learn with a different method.

[faint plume]

rather than reading it and going "mhmmm so this does this" and thinking I learnt everything

[manic sundial]

so you just described what sounds people make when they are learning something

[faint plume]

If I knew more than I knew I would love to offer help.

Im not on any high ground because im a beginner and STILL learning

so atp in time I cant help them

but when it comes time for me to help someone

I at least understand where they could of went wrong

how I can help them

and give them better methods

[iron kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dog-ai-gif-12041344661216578237

[feral steeple]

but AI will give you the same understanding if you just ask it to, you can literally tell it to explain every usage of something from the documentation in a more understandable way.

[iron kraken]

larp larp larp sahur

[faint plume]

im not superior to those who learn differently either. Its just in my opinnion I think learnign it manually gives you a full grasp of what you need to know.

[stuck trail]

Ur giving me nightmares

[frail plaza]

someone make a closing argument quick!

[manic sundial]

im telling you this is just not how it works dude. You are thinking that every person who uses ai plugs in problem and just copies input. that is called VIBE CODING which is not coding and no one here really likes. What im talking about is pasting your issues and saying "what is the problem here, please explain how i can solve this issue without giving me a direct answer"? That is direct asking for it to assist you in learning

[feral steeple]

^

[faint plume]

Then your coming on the scripts by yourself and using what you've learnt.

[feral steeple]

ok so you agree.

[faint plume]

In this instance I think I dont see a problem with it.

[feral steeple]

that AI is not bad when used for learning

this is what we've been arguing the whole time

[manic sundial]

thats what we are talking about doing man

[faint plume]

but you can also agree that my way of learning is benefical as well.

[manic sundial]

no one is arguing for you to copy "blah blah" and then paste

[faint plume]

at least if you think so 🤷

[feral steeple]

Yes its just not superior

all methods of learning are beneficial

[faint plume]

To me Human > AI

to you AI > Human

[manic sundial]

its just not in my opinion. You learn slower and you arent learning much more or in depth. You dont learn more from sitting there on the docs just reading all day. You learn from testing out things you are messing with and AI is much quicker at pointing out where you went wrong and explaining to you "heres how you would go about fixing this and whats wrong"

[feral steeple]

Is there a concrete reason though

[faint plume]

Yes because, humans can deeply understand something and give better pratices.

[frail plaza]

can i tell yall, whether you want to use ai or not for learning, it's just your opinions, some people like to learn faster and have a more surface knowledge understanding and others want to take more time to learn to have a more in depth understanding.

your argument on both sides is pointless

[feral steeple]

What makes AI incapable of deeply understanding something

[iron kraken]

uh

[worldly spear]

Spread hate not love

[faint plume]

thats why you pratice inside of studio once you learn something

you dont just keep reading

[frail plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-bruh-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-higuruma-higuruma-hiromi-gif-6772381213627884903

[worldly spear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/449312743116505101/1204441596947341342/raciststudio.gif

[manic sundial]

and when something goes wrong cause you dont understand it you would rather then spend 30 minutes reading for something just so solve the one issue rather than an ai explaining where you went wrong and what to solve or the concept you are missing?

[worldly spear]

Ignore tha chat bubble thingy

[faint plume]

yes because at least then I understand my problem and how to fix it more clearer than another person

I can go to code-help or code-dicussion if needed as well

and they will teach me and help me.

[feral steeple]

but how is it clearer if its the same answer

[faint plume]

theres plenty different solution

[feral steeple]

you can literally ask AI to get all of it's info from official documentation

[faint plume]

but do you know how to fix it after you get that piece of answer from ai?

[feral steeple]

yes

[faint plume]

sure you do

or you can just go to ai and put in your script say "Hey Ai fix this" and not learn anthing

anything*

[feral steeple]

I'm not telling it to give me the code im telling it to tell me what to fix and give me a general idea of how to fix it, or ask it how something works

[feral steeple]

thats not what we were arguing about though.

[faint plume]

then why not go to code-discussion

or code-help?

[manic sundial]

your going back to the argument of people vibe coding, we arent advocating for vibe coding we are advocing to use ai as a teacher to explain the concepts yo uahve wrong and what to fix or learn

[faint plume]

thats what its there for

does ai and humans do the same thing

[manic sundial]

cause the people here are special bro, they dont help half the time

[feral steeple]

because I'll get a quicker answer with the same content via AI

[faint plume]

well thats true but if you search hard enough you can figure out your problem

i think I mostly do it for a sense of accomplishment

[manic sundial]

i never talk in this server for these reasons and it cause the people who are here to "help" you are almost never there to help you realitically. They can also not understand it so you spend 30 minuites jabbering back and forth and no one will apear with a solution sometimes

[faint plume]

something to make myself feel proud that "damn my code finally works"

[feral steeple]

I mean if you want a sense of accomplishment thats fine man but your method is not objectively better just because "AI bad"

[faint plume]

so your saying ai is objeectively better

?

objectively*

[feral steeple]

im not, im saying its not any worse than yours

[faint plume]

eh

again

[feral steeple]

they're the same thing pretty much except its a little more time-efficient

[faint plume]

im sorry but lowpoly is right

My opinnion wont say

sway*

[feral steeple]

I guess man

[faint plume]

Humans > AI

[iron kraken]

Humans > AI > Humans > AI

[feral steeple]

So humans are better than AI which is better than humans?

[iron kraken]

AI Human > AI > Human

[stuck trail]

Are you saying you prefer to go through a hundred web pages to find a solution

[feral steeple]

So reyy > AI > human

[faint plume]

Never said that but I prefer gathering the answers myself

[manic sundial]

just stop bro, these people will never budge if they get stuck in the ground he will not change his opinion even if given real evidence of a point

[iron kraken]

Human Ai Ai Human Human > Human Ai Human

[stuck trail]

🫣 wrong reply

[feral steeple]

oh i understand now ty

[stuck trail]

Oh its not

[faint plume]

Not true

if i had to rank it would be Humans>AI > Reyy

for now at least till I become better than AI

[manic sundial]

you wont be bro im sorry to tell you

[faint plume]

I

[feral steeple]

this was a civil discussion bro no need to do that

[manic sundial]

only gonna get better and its already at or better than me

its just not possible

[faint plume]

I will in a few years

[stuck trail]

Is this from searching the web or debugging
There's no real benefit when you can get the answers faster and possibly even more clear than whatever vague explanation an old web page has

[feral steeple]

I thought you'd been scripting for 7 years 💔

[manic sundial]

yeah it doesnt mean that its not better than me in many areas

i think you forget it knows litteraly almost everything

[feral steeple]

idk AI hasnt really overtaken me yet (atleast when it comes to making something coherent across multiple scripts)

[manic sundial]

do you have thinking mode on or the reasoniong mode or whatever?

[feral steeple]

does definitely explain things better than most people though

[stuck trail]

Roblox

[manic sundial]

its dumb without it but when enabled its really really scarilly good

[feral steeple]

oh thats a good question lol idk

[manic sundial]

i gave it the basic idea of the service design for scirpting and it made a relativelly advanced system that would have worked across like 12 different scripts

[faint plume]

not really

[manic sundial]

the system was poorly optimized and had some big flaws but it would have worked somewhat well

[faint plume]

its called reading and comprehending

[feral steeple]

I mean optimization isnt a huge problem icl thats easy to fix, big flaws though?

[stuck trail]

You can do the same using ai
You just skip the multiple searches part
Think of it as a more easy to use search engine

[faint plume]

no

that would be google

[manic sundial]

optimization design flaws like it would be sorting through a table of 200 players positions for every player to find distaces and what not instead of a simpelr thing like a grid to find general areas and distance. Its just not all there in terms of complete logic but its still really good

[stuck trail]

Ur getting the same answers just less effort

[faint plume]

so youd prefer a shortcut

[feral steeple]

ah

[stuck trail]

There's nothing wrong with a shortcut
It depends on what ur searching though, I prefer not being confidently lied to when it doesn't know

Ouu I dont know
Let me imagine it for you lol

[feral steeple]

be real here though if theres two routes to the city over, and you need to go there for some reason, are you taking the long route for a sense of accomplishment or the shorter route to shave off an extra 15 minutes?

[stuck trail]

Maybe he only feels this way because he's just starting
The fatigue of trying to find answers on niche topics will hurt later

Ai will sometimes give results ur search engine hides

[manic sundial]

dont argue with him h had no want to change his opinion we already had this argument like for an hour now its not gonna change his ideas

[stuck trail]

Lol

[faint plume]

not the same ting

in that case OF course I would take the fastest route

but its not the same thing

[feral steeple]

It is though, you're taking the harder way out for the same result (im done with this argument though ngl lets just stop talking about this)

[faint plume]

I think its best for both of us

[iron kraken]

no

resume

[misty valve]

anyone ever seen this weirdly glitching wall thing before? it only happens when i'm close of an wall on high graphics and happens almost 100% if i'm on low graphics, flashlight issue

[cobalt lotus]

thats so good

[night drift]

any good guides on data store i have been trying to avoid it but i gotta learn it but its confusing to me

[idle stream]

can someone explain me setmetatable for dummies?

[sand dagger]

Any beginner devs???

[ember nimbus]

they turn tables into wizards

it lets you make functions run for a table when you do certain operations like addition, multiplication, equality, iteration and so on

[idle stream]

and why I need it in OOP ?

[ember nimbus]

it uses the "index" metamethod to "fill in the holes" of methods

so your object contains the info about that specific object

but to access the methods, you need to redirect values that aren't defined in your class object to the class

[idle stream]

I dont understand any words 🥲

I have experince with java a bit

so I know some stufff about constructer, getter ,setter

I know a bit about lambda

[ember nimbus]

lamba calc will do nothing for oop 🙏

[idle stream]

okay

[ember nimbus]

local function Class:Method()
    
end

local object = {
    foo = "bar",
    bar = "baz",
}

object:Method()

without metatables there is no link between object and Class

metatables provide that link, so that any time to access a value in the table, if it is nil will check the __index of the metatable

it is like a sort of implicit symlink if you know what symlinks are

[idle stream]

and where to put metatable

so it is smth about
inheritance like in java?

[ember nimbus]

you can use them for inheritance

ig if you think of all instances of objects as classes then the metatables is what makes them inherit the properties from their parent class

[unreal nest]

Thanks

[idle stream]

so I can use it only for inherit or smth else ?

[ember nimbus]

local Class = {}
Class.__index = Class

local function Class.new()
    return { foo = "bar" }
end

local function Class:Method()
    
end

local object = Class.new()
object:Method()

what would this do

[idle stream]

constructor with method that create a object about class

[ember nimbus]

what would happen here ```lua
local object = Class.new()
object:Method()

[idle stream]

I think it will show a error because it need the setmetable?

[ember nimbus]

yes

so the setmetatable is to provide the link between the instances of the class and the class

[idle stream]

how you would prefer me to use construktor, methode, getter / setter in luau when I want a plotsystem?

[ember nimbus]

i don't use oop cus i don't like it

[idle stream]

you code in robloxstudio or in visualstudio?

[ember nimbus]

vscode

[ember nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fByFKZarNiI

[bitter widget]

is it alright if i used ai to make my entire game?

[faint plume]

use it as a guide

not as a replacemnt of you

who can script your own game

and just chose not

[idle stream]

I saw the video thx but imma try now to code a small plotsystem from scratch with OOP

can I dm you if I have any issues?

or I am stuck

[ember nimbus]

ask in code-help

that sleitnick video expains the metatable stuff well

and demystifies calling functions with colons

[idle stream]

okay imma watch it

[remote phoenix]

if it works it works

[dusky relic]

obj:func(args)
is fr just obj.func(self = obj,args)

[hoary cedar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/glmRyiSI3v5E4

Had to go and make that so confusing, lol

object:Method(...)

Is equivalent to

object.Method(object, ...)

Where self absorbs the first argument: object

[dusky relic]

https://giphy.com/gifs/different-UI7EYk96rzq24

[spring jungle]

I just spent entirely too long making a system to replace ordered datastores

It was driving me insane that I couldnt get the rank of players who arent in the top hundred or so lol

Id post the devforum link but Im not level 5

[toxic anvil]

I need aDeveloper

[hoary cedar]

Gotta loop through 'em. That's all you can do

[spring jungle]

Well thats what I changed

Made an external leaderboard server system

Designed to scale for big games and provide the missing functionality by just throwing it on top of your game

[hoary cedar]

An external relational database?

[spring jungle]

Does require hosting, but I optimized it for this use case to minimize hosting costs, should be pretty cheap

[spring jungle]

Yep

[hoary cedar]

How will developers afford the service?

[toxic anvil]

Is anyone interested in helping me develop my game? It's just for fun—I'm not paying any money.

[umbral carbon]

That's a bad idea

[spring jungle]

Its pretty cheap, you just need one server, and unless youre a front page game, that server can be pretty crappy, just like a few bucks a month

The server code is paid but its a one time negotiable price

I use it in my shit

I had a skill rating system in my game, hooked it up to the leaderboard, and made your global ranking an important part of the system

[umbral carbon]

How do you even communicate with these databases?

HTTP?

[noble sonnet]

I just finished fixing my ragdoll / gunsytem with my inventory rob/carry system can anyone see if they see any errors in the game overall?

[versed gust]

Is it reliable

The only external data stores services i’ve seen are aws

[dusky relic]

@spring jungle Did you want to be able to get every single person's rank?

[spring jungle]

Http, yes

[spring jungle]

From my testing yes
But you do need to host it, whether you use aws or not is up to u

[spring jungle]

Exactly, also get the users around people in the leaderboard

[dusky relic]

That's a horrible idea

1 million users and u are cooked

[spring jungle]

Nope, my board handles that

I wrote code to stress test it

With 25 million entries it can do thousands of rw requests a second

On a crappy host too

[dusky relic]

You're updating every single record when a player goes up in ranking, basically.

[spring jungle]

Its O(log(n)) complexity

[dusky relic]

Most of the time actually

Or am I going crazy

[spring jungle]

No, my system was made from scratch with a binary tree

[dusky relic]

Binary tree wouldn't prevent the cascade...

[spring jungle]

Makes it scale much much better

[dusky relic]

I think it might even make it worse

[spring jungle]

It can reduces complexity to an O(log(n)), it only has to update the nodes above it in my structure

If you dont believe that it works, you can test it yourself

But Im no programming noob

[dusky relic]

🤔

What does the root node represent?

[spring jungle]

Usually a user somewhere towards the middle of the board

Its an AVL tree

Auto balancing while maintaining O(log(n))

[dusky relic]

🤔

My brain's screaming that this wouldn't work

lemme investigate

[spring jungle]

The tree operates under a simple set of rules
All nodes to the left of a node are less than it, all nodes to the right are more

If the height of two children nodes differ by more than 1, perform some rotations to rebalance

If you store a count of child nodes on every node (which can be handled very easily, because changes only affect nodes directly above them, leading to O(log(n)), then you can find a node's rank by getting the count to its right, and moving up the tree, adding the counts of nodes based on if you moved up left or right

[dusky relic]

OHHH

I know what it is.

I thought the value you were storing was a person's rank

Instead of like their value eg. gold

[spring jungle]

No, the tree stores both

Kind of

I mean, it needs to store value, otherwise how would it sort

[dusky relic]

My mean yeah, by definition they do.

But if the value you were storing was for eg. a person's rank, in an AVL tree it would have caused a shit show

So just confusion on my part

[distant hamlet]

fuck is wrong with studio why is frames spiking like crazy

without even playtesting

holy shit

[wise turtle]

ur a skid thats why

[distant hamlet]

i never skid

this is a roblox skidding

[wise turtle]

nuh uh!

[sudden forge]

skid

[modern seal]

whuts a skid

[autumn oyster]

this is ridiculous

[modern seal]

i had a codebase like this before

overuse of modules is so annoying

[minor jacinth]

its slang for a sub 5 larping vibe coder

[modern seal]

literally horrendus

[tawny vigil]

yo i think his type is a tall girl

[autumn oyster]

i am maintaining two sources of truth all because i want to keep autocomplete and types while using dependency injection

and i am using dependency injection in order to split my code up more neatly

[tawny vigil]

just remember the 10k lines of code by memory are you stupid

[autumn oyster]

hm

i am way over 10k lines of code lol

this game alone is 25k lines

[tawny vigil]

than just remember all those lines of code

[autumn oyster]

hm

[modern seal]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-the-whole-generation-nuke-generation-funny-gif-16627422019090863434

[autumn oyster]

maybe

[modern seal]

nuke the whole codebase

[minor jacinth]

@claude compact his bummy codebase

[autumn oyster]

my codebase is beautiful

[autumn oyster]

lol are you insane

[tawny vigil]

i should learn typing

i dont know how to type

[autumn oyster]

there was talk internally at roblox i believe of implementing C#

and using that instead of luau

[modern seal]

onee time i inherited a codebase so ugly i thought it was obfuscated but on but when origional dev said it wasnt i thought he was a complete idiot

[autumn oyster]

was a great idea

[tawny vigil]

that sounds cool

[autumn oyster]

i dont know why they never went through with it

[tawny vigil]

cause c# is too sharp for roblox

[shell heart]

haha i get it

[minor jacinth]

Sub 5 lang

[tawny vigil]

god i wished larping never existed

[regal salmon]

probably because of the entire userbase already using luau lol

[tawny vigil]

so i can just hate on people without needing a word

[autumn oyster]

true but unity had a similar ordeal and they transitioned just fine

[tawny vigil]

why not just make luau legacy

[regal salmon]

if they replaced it, it would force all games to update to a new language most of them have never touched

[autumn oyster]

from js to c#

[regal salmon]

unity basically always used c# and js

they just removed js

[autumn oyster]

ah

[tawny vigil]

what if roblox switched to lua

[autumn oyster]

i still don't think it would be impossibly difficult to just give users both options and eventually deprecate luau and not let people create new games with it

[tawny vigil]

yeah

[autumn oyster]

it's not a bad language by any means but you genuinely need to be a genius to scale a huge game with luau and keep the codebase clean and conistent lol

[wise turtle]

probably because luau is much better for game dev

[regal salmon]

metatables

[wise turtle]

and as a language in general

[regal salmon]

no i dont think thats true..

[tawny vigil]

kill all luau organizing

[autumn oyster]

i dont think

[wise turtle]

its true

[autumn oyster]

thats true

[regal salmon]

?? 😭✌️

[autumn oyster]

right...

[tawny vigil]

i think english is the best for game dev

[wise turtle]

luau is a much better language

its the best language in fact

[tawny vigil]

how am i supposed to tell someone to make a game

[autumn oyster]

this feels like schrodingers ragebait

[autumn oyster]

he said that with chest, seen that we disagreed and went back on his original statement lol

[tawny vigil]

i really like programming language with good infratractor

[autumn oyster]

tractor 🚜

[half cobalt]

man i wish i had a scripter to work on game with i even have some solid modeling progress

man of only

i wish

[regal salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861804711370948608/1474192668132245515/smirk.gif

yeah if only

[tawny vigil]

man

scripters are so cool i wish they were real

[shell heart]

Hi

[tawny vigil]

Hello

[half cobalt]

what do you call a bee that produces milk

[tawny vigil]

what

[half cobalt]

Boo BIES!

YOU GET IT LAD?

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-tung-sahur-bleood-walk-bleood-triple-t-gif-2075239254636041119

[shell heart]

OOOH

[half cobalt]

YOU GET IT LAD?

[tawny vigil]

https://giphy.com/gifs/homelander-the-boys-series-XCnJomRltoy2lk5KMW

[half cobalt]

jokes aside

what would you wanna see in a duel game

like to make it stand out

[tawny vigil]

uh

clashing

i guess

and add larp material

[umbral carbon]

Well what's stopping someone from hacking it? There's no CORS

[idle stream]

is it possible to reach the max of creator rewards earnings?

[spring jungle]

Theres authentication

[umbral carbon]

Is that like a secret key?

[spring jungle]

Basically

[trim stone]

trying to get some scripters for my game should i try to negotiate 5-10% cheaper or will they not go like over $5-10 cheaper

[wide zinc]

yeah

i got someone down $50 once

[idle stream]

guys what is the different about** this** and **self ** ?

[thin mist]

is it not possible to set a player to use jumppower with scripts

nvm i got it

[honest flower]

nothing, just a difference between languages

[fossil ivy]

where yall find investors

[static coral]

same use but luau is less strict so u can use self as a variable name and the behaviour is a bit different

[idle stream]

can you also tell me why it shows in visual studio when I call getservice that the game shows wrong but in roblox studio not?

[static coral]

just use studio atp

vsc luau extensions are behind with some of the features

[lapis thistle]

Anyone know where the investors are?

[static coral]

or just dont recognize some syntax

[idle stream]

so just roblox studio

[fervent belfry]

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Called by Dngr

[static coral]

@lapis thistle

[static coral]

ye

[lapis thistle]

oh wow

[warm tinsel]

Is it weird to see a scripter annotate the type ": ()" to a function that doesnt return anything, instead of just omitting it

[still spire]

is 20 ad credits good for 7 days?

[topaz abyss]

yes, did u test ctr?

[compact echo]

maybe it looks simple but the hard is u have full control in this thing ( u could change or add new items for the updates like new brainrot/monster/character by only add the info and how to get and put the model in the folder u will not scripting anything else the info of the of the item like power and rarity etc) and it will show siny eff if the item has shiny buff like in the vid

and

[still spire]

no

[compact echo]

absolutely not

[proper flicker]

5 a day is the minimum

[still spire]

how much days

[proper flicker]

So you cant run 7 days anyways

[topaz abyss]

What are you on about

[topaz abyss]

20 ad credits a day 7 days right?

[still spire]

https://www.roblox.com/games/128104375790073 this is the game

[compact echo]

sometimes i spend 10 for only one day and i got like the highest thing 10 players so it's not that easy ( with high quality ctr thumbnail)

[still spire]

i have 20 add credits how much days i need to do

[compact echo]

two days and the highest thing 3 u could make more if u r just trying to test the ctr and bugs

[topaz abyss]

Get 50 and do 7 for 7

[still spire]

bro i dont have 20k robux to invest

[compact echo]

do some comms

[still spire]

i have 30k 😎

[still spire]

i will do 20 ad credits per 3 days

[compact echo]

good but u will not get the good result if ur goal is the official release

[compact echo]

this is good for test the ctr and bugs

[still spire]

this is not good rithg ?

[compact echo]

nah

this is what's called high quality CTR

[bitter harbor]

yo

wow

im

impressed

[compact echo]

not by me im just explain

[fair copper]

[tranquil prawn]

bro is not cyr

[still spire]

ik

[fair copper]

yo thats clean

[tranquil prawn]

u a student of him

[still spire]

?

[tranquil prawn]

do yk who CYR is in the first place

[still spire]

yes

[tranquil prawn]

alright now are you a student of CYR

[modest hound]

having dictornary as data bad idea?

[mossy lynx]

its not vibe coding and I mean use ai for the basics not crzy stuff but u can easily learn functions and stuff from ai and from there learn more advanced stuff from docs and practicing

and even if it is a shortcut thats js helping u learn faster?

[static forum]

Anyone wanna make a fun project

[mossy lynx]

im making one rn tryna help

its based off a random anime, I watched it cz i was bored and thouight it was a good game idea

[static forum]

DMs

[young granite]

datastore? i think good idea

[mossy lynx]

ur making a tougen anki game no way let me dev

[modest hound]

yes

[static coral]

this is most reliable way but im just saying, adding more to it in the future is a pain in the ass

if you plan on adding a lot more entries and updating it then rather use attributes for your sanity

[modest hound]

they are persisant values

[static coral]

do u mean constant

[modest hound]

its js stats names race and stuff

[modest hound]

yea

[static coral]

ik

i meant like

not adding to it with code, adding to it manually in the future when u update game

is painful if there are many entries

and when u add a new field u need to go through and add the field to each entry individually

[modest hound]

well thats why i wonder if dic is a good idea

since adding new stuff will be per entry

also i heard attribute spamming is a bad idea

[static coral]

yeah rather use folder with subfolders and the fields as attributes

[static coral]

nah just make utility function for converting the attributes to dict

[modest hound]

i mean stuff like stats and race gotta be constant accross sessions

[static coral]

wait is this like player data that goes into datastore or just stats

[modest hound]

Downed

[modest hound]

these are stats entry yea

data

[static coral]

huh

[modest hound]

its points u upg

it says stats 😭

[static coral]

like u mean game stats? not datastore entries

[modest hound]

its dic of data per race so ur gameplau will have Ur race and and therre stats

so if ur oni u will have sanity blood etc Stats

[static coral]

i dont get what u mean but ill say this:

if its player data that will be saved to datastore then rather use dictionary

if its just game stats that arent changed with code then its fine as dictionary if its small but if there is a lot of data i would recommend folder with subfolders with attributes

[modest hound]

they are the stats

u upg

[strange herald]

i js realized you can use roblox studio as a calculator to make your homework

[modest hound]

well calc is js a lil computer doing calcs

[strange herald]

i'll keep this is mind

[static coral]

can do that with almost any programming language

[strange herald]

yes

[modest hound]

wait could this be a neat way to learn math in devs

[static coral]

use dict then

[strange herald]

https://klipy.com/gifs/johnson-johnjohn--k01KQ51P28KFSYPFNBGF6C9GGXP

[strange herald]

fr

[modest hound]

stats are player data yea

they not attributes

[mossy lynx]

It’s easy to script too

[strange herald]

what is easy to script?

[mossy lynx]

Calculator and math stuff

[strange herald]

oh

[mossy lynx]

Js put base rules like circumference, radius, diameter

[still spire]

what is the best 20 ad credits for 4 day or 5 days

[mossy lynx]

Num1 * 2 * 3.14 and put in num 1 it’s simple

[proven ridge]

As u can every coding language, takes 0 knowledge

[woeful latch]

yo wsp

what does functions do

[strange herald]

functions give you a block of code you can use again like

[woeful latch]

like
print ("Hello World!")

[strange herald]

functions are like shortcuts for a block of code you create so that you can use them many times without having to write it all again

[strange herald]

that's not a function itself but you could make a function for that

it would be

[woeful latch]

so its like a variable right

[strange herald]

yes

[woeful latch]

like short version of code

[strange herald]

local function Shortcut()
print("Hello World")
end

[strange herald]

yes

[woeful latch]

can we repeat functions? like instead of copy pasting it to make the line of code repeat, we can do like function x3, so it repeats 3 times

[strange herald]

Shortcut is the function name

yes, that's the point of functions. imagine you have to print ("Hello") a lot of times

[hot kernel]

does anyone want to help me

make avatars on my clothing game

i cant pay much but 500

just place manicans

[woeful latch]

thats hire channel

#clothing-hirable

[strange herald]

instead of writing
print ("Hello World")
print("Hello World")
print ("Hello World")
print("Hello World")
print("Hello World")

you can just create a function and re use it

[woeful latch]

oh ye

[strange herald]

local function printing()
print("Hello World")
end

printing()
printing()
printing()
printing()
printing()

[woeful latch]

ah alr

[strange herald]

because to use a function you made you have to write the function's name and ()
(FUNCTION NAME)()

[woeful latch]

wait so we dont need to keep anything in the ()?

[strange herald]

you don't necesarily have to but sometimes yes

to explain it's like

[woeful latch]

what do we keep inside it for function name

the ()

[strange herald]

per example if you want to make a sum inside the function

you could write

wait actually i forgot it's something i never do, i genuinely never put something inside the () so i forgot how to do it

but you should watch this video

[woeful latch]

ok

[strange herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcxHckKcQxQ this video is mostly about math but it has a part explaining the functions thing if i remember right, let me check when it is

skip to 3:28

and it'll talk abt what you can put inside the ()

it's basically a cointainer for info

but check it

[woeful latch]

alr thx

[strange herald]

np!

[woeful latch]

how do i sent screenshots here

[strange herald]

you can't send images here yet because you're bronze I but you can DM me if you want to

[mossy lynx]

who here can teach me frontend for combat systems/fighting In general such as physics and stuff

[zenith wyvern]

physics is not frontend

this is why youre a vibecoder

[mossy lynx]

Right

[zenith wyvern]

you do

[mossy lynx]

It is in combat systems

[zenith wyvern]

arguments

[mossy lynx]

Knock back isn’t frontend?

[zenith wyvern]

physics in combat systems wtf are we talking about

no it isnt

[mossy lynx]

so what would it be

[zenith wyvern]

knockback is a backend system

[mossy lynx]

Cuz I’m not good at that and I consider it fronten

Oh fr

[zenith wyvern]

backend is mechanics frontend is visuals

[mossy lynx]

yeah Ik

so wouldn’t it be frontend cu the backend is knocking them back the front end is making it look good

[zenith wyvern]

no?

knockback just refers to the knocking them back aspect

its not a frontend system

[mossy lynx]

you know what I mean don’t be a nerd

[zenith wyvern]

no i don't

you genuinely were just outright wrong

[mossy lynx]

I’m not lmao

[zenith wyvern]

im not even being nitpicky

physics is not a frontend system

its a backend syste

[mossy lynx]

by physics I mean making it look good

I said frontend systems like physics such as making physics look good

not js “teleport here”

[zenith wyvern]

this makes no sense and no one would assume this

[mossy lynx]

The visuals on the movement

[zenith wyvern]

correlations of a politicians

state what you want

[mossy lynx]

Yes they would I said frontend so they are gonna assume that

[zenith wyvern]

the frontend of combat systems clarify further

[mossy lynx]

Ru dum? U can’t make assumptions

Ur a bum