code-discussion

[fading pollen]

okok

but if the code is tested and seems functional in production, I should go for it regardless right?

[ancient root]

It won't break your game

Even if

[fading pollen]

okay! appreciate the tips a lot thank you :)

[ancient root]

When I used --!native it cut the time of math.sqrt / n^0.5 operations in half

I haven't seen any performance gain from --!optimise

It just makes debugging harder

[fading pollen]

that's actually pretty insane

[wooden harbor]

native just runs the code natively there's nothing crazy stop the glaze

[fading pollen]

hows it glaze he prolly tested it ig

[ancient root]

I benchmarked it

with 10,000,000 iterations

weird thing is that math.sqrt and n^0.5 got the exact same time almost every time

[fading pollen]

iirc i found out during my tests that math.pow is unbelievably slow compared do doing n^2

idk why

[ancient root]

you can heavily speed up n^2 if you wrap it in a function

so it'll be even faster

[balmy sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

[trim mango]

n^2 has a shortcut in the interpreter, that's why

n^0.5 does too

[balmy sorrel]

who cares about time complexity

[fading pollen]

wdym wrap it in a function? what would the wrapper look like

[balmy sorrel]

just add a ton of for loops and forget about it

[ancient root]

local function pow(n) return n^2 end

[icy bone]

real chads have O(n!)

[fading pollen]

doesnt that just add a function call overhead tho

[ancient root]

It didn't in my benchmark

it boosted the times

[balmy sorrel]

lmao

[icy bone]

my favourite time complexity

its o(nlogn)

cuz it sounds nice

[dark juniper]

there’s always that one guy in every field who will make some knowledge that’s basically completely useless and maybe 10 guys use it in the future at best

🙏🙏🙏

[icy bone]

Albert einstein

[balmy sorrel]

Albert and Einstien

[dark juniper]

nah he’s diff cause he actually made something insanely useful

And bro dedicated his life to it too

[ancient root]

math.pow is so fucking slow

[dark juniper]

bro set the goal when he was 12 got it done after the phd

[ancient root]

Wrapping it in a function is much faster

fractionally but still faster

[icy bone]

0.001 seconds faster

This is

Time we need

These are the issues

[fading pollen]

that's weird as hell but im ngl the gain is so marginal that i dont know if this is even intended lmao

holdon

[ancient root]

n*n is faster than all

n*n wrapped in a function is fastest

[fading pollen]

" 00:54:27.330 Without function : 23.313100000450504 - Serveur - Script:5
00:54:27.353 With function :23.56809999946563 - Serveur - Script:15"

[ancient root]

Here's with --!native

n^2 beats n*n in native

[fading pollen]

with function is slower lmao

[ancient root]

Try this

local mathpow = math.pow
local function pow(n: number): number return n^2 end
local function pow2(n: number): number return n*n end

local iters = 10_000_000

local sink1 = 0
local sink2 = 0
local sink3 = 0
local sink4 = 0
local sink5 = 0

local start1 = os.clock()

for i=1, iters do 
    sink1 += mathpow(i, 2)
end

local end1 = os.clock()

local start2 = os.clock()

for i=1, iters do 
    sink2 += pow(i)
end

local end2 = os.clock()

local start3 = os.clock()

for i=1, iters do
    sink3 += i^2
end

local end3 = os.clock()

local start4 = os.clock()

for i=1, iters do
    sink4 += pow2(i)
end

local end4 = os.clock()

local start5 = os.clock()

for i=1, iters do
    sink5 += i*i
end

local end5 = os.clock()

print("math.pow: " .. end1 - start1)
print("n^2 (function): " .. end2 - start2)
print("n^2 (plain): " .. end3 - start3)
print("n*n (function): " .. end4 - start4)
print("n*n (plain): " .. end5 - start5)

[fading pollen]

thats because a multiplication is faster than n^2 but that only applies to powers of 2, obv if u need huge powers ur not gonna do n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n*n

[ancient root]

n^2 is fastest in native

[fading pollen]

oh you do a +=

i js do local a = 2^2 lmao

local function Square()
    return 2^2
end

local Clock = os.clock()
for i = 1,10000000 do
    local a = 2^2
end
print("Without function : "..tostring((os.clock()-Clock)*1000))

local Clock = os.clock()
for i = 1,10000000 do
    local a = Square()
end
print("With function :" .. tostring((os.clock()-Clock)*1000))

personally i js have that

[ancient root]

I guess you can do that but it doesn't show the full picture

[fading pollen]

holdon let me try with ur specific things

[ancient root]

n^3 still beats

math.pow is still fucking slo

[fading pollen]

00:58:24.428 Without function : 30.420799999774317 - Serveur - Script:9
00:58:24.459 With function :30.65449999849079 - Serveur - Script:15

local function Square(i)
    return i^2
end

local Clock = os.clock()
for i = 1,10000000 do
    local a = i^2
end
print("Without function : "..tostring((os.clock()-Clock)*1000))

local Clock = os.clock()
for i = 1,10000000 do
    local a = Square(i)
end
print("With function :" .. tostring((os.clock()-Clock)*1000))

[ancient root]

You're meant to stop the clock before printing

[fading pollen]

overhead still makes the function take longer

[fading pollen]

oh?

oh i never thought of that actually

[ancient root]

print literally adds to the benchmark, making it void

[fading pollen]

i forgot print would add some time lmao

well the add should be constant given the nature of the print but holdon ur right

[ancient root]

os.clock() also adds some time, if you want most precise, cache os.clock into a local

[fading pollen]

00:59:37.392 Without function : 30.550299999958952 - Serveur - Script:10
00:59:37.423 With function :30.90920000067854 - Serveur - Script:17

local function Square(i)
    return i^2
end

local Clock = os.clock()
for i = 1,10000000 do
    local a = i^2
end
local End = os.clock()
print("Without function : "..tostring(End-Clock)*1000)

local Clock = os.clock()
for i = 1,10000000 do
    local a = Square(i)
end
local End = os.clock()
print("With function :" .. tostring(End-Clock)*1000)

still the same idea

[fading pollen]

that wouldnt change the final results, accessing os.clock virtually takes like one microsecond top

i get the idea for precision but that's pointless for this test since a benchmark with an accuracy of 1/100s would already be much more than enough

also i'm not even sure if it adds some time at all since according to you this is compiled and then interpreted, os.clock must have it's own bytecode and setting a variable to os.clock virtually changes nothing to that

[ancient root]

Only one way to find out

benchmark os.clock

[fading pollen]

like, if os.clock compiles to 0F FF FF FF idk, doing local Clock = os.clock is still gonna compile to 0F FF FF FF

if anything it adds the overhead of a variable but thats not rlly anything crazy

wait nvm it does add overhead lmfao

[ancient root]

Doesn't os.clock use windows as a layer to talk to find out how long it has been up?

[fading pollen]

i'm ngl i have absolutely 0 clue about how it works behind the bars

i'm sure its a bit more complex than that tho since it also works on phones and such

it's probably a more generalistic wrapper

[ancient root]

n^2 (function wrapped) wins majority of the time

With native math.pow finally catches up a bit

[fading pollen]

i'm really not sure how come it's winning for you, for me the function is clearly losing and that seems like the logical result

send ur code again rq

[ancient root]

local mathpow = math.pow
local function pow(n: number): number return n^2 end
local function pow2(n: number): number return n*n end

local clock = os.clock

local iters = 10_000_000

local start1 = clock()

for i=1, iters do 
    local a = mathpow(i, 2)
end

local end1 = clock()

local start2 = clock()

for i=1, iters do 
    local a = pow(i)
end

local end2 = clock()

local start3 = clock()

for i=1, iters do
    local a = i^2
end

local end3 = clock()

local start4 = clock()

for i=1, iters do
    local a = pow2(i)
end

local end4 = clock()

local start5 = clock()

for i=1, iters do
    local a = i*i
end

local end5 = clock()

print("math.pow: " .. end1 - start1)
print("n^2 (function): " .. end2 - start2)
print("n^2 (plain): " .. end3 - start3)
print("n*n (function): " .. end4 - start4)
print("n*n (plain): " .. end5 - start5)

paste this in the command bar

and open the output

[fading pollen]

" 01:04:58.216 n^2 (function): 0.029117499998392304 - Modifier
01:04:58.216 n^2 (plain): 0.029091499998685322 - Modifier"

well LMAO

[ancient root]

It might be my specs?

PC specific case

[fading pollen]

maybe i'm ngl, that's really weird

i get the same results when launching it in a script, function loses by ab it

[ancient root]

Weird

[fading pollen]

WELL wtv, computer science what can I say

ima go back to my stuff i need to focus a bit before i go sleep, goodnight brother

[ancient root]

gn

[hasty mesa]

that's noise

Roblox will inline loca functions

meaning
local function x()
print(1)
end
x()

just becomea

print(1)

[ancient root]

only problem is that it requires a variable

so it can't do that

[hasty mesa]

if you give it a variable it will still inline it

the only case is if it's var args

[fading pollen]

inlining is directly giving the assembly to the cpu instead of the function overhead right

[hasty mesa]

no it means the bytecode

is gonna be directly injected to where the function call is

instead of a function cl

[fading pollen]

oh right mb i defined it wrongly

thats what i meant tho js the binary not the assembly lmao

[ancient root]

It's still faster tho

[hasty mesa]

that's noise

from the benchmark

[fading pollen]

isnt that unbelievably inefficient tho

it inlines all local functions?

[hasty mesa]

not all

[fading pollen]

or only appropriate oneqs

[hasty mesa]

small ones

[ancient root]

how is it noise

[fading pollen]

oh okay lmfao

[hasty mesa]

because they have the same exact instructions

[fading pollen]

holdon i can js

[ancient root]

If it was noise it'd be varied results

But it's pretty much always faster

[fading pollen]

01 10 33.141 Time for 1 : 21.297299999787356 - Serveur - Script:7
01 10 33.163 Time for 2 : 21.687100001145154 - Serveur - Script:7
01 10 33.185 Time for 3 : 21.41000000119675 - Serveur - Script:7
01 10 33.205 Time for 4 : 20.56050000101095 - Serveur - Script:7
01 10 33.226 Time for 5 : 20.351300001493655 - Serveur - Script:7

for i = 1,5 do
    local Clock = os.clock()
    for i = 1, 10000000 do
        local a = i
    end
    local End = os.clock()
    print("Time for "..tostring(i).." : "..tostring((End-Clock)*1000))
end

ok i cant get rid of the stupid 10 but here

[hasty mesa]

they have the same exact instructions

[fading pollen]

wtf you have access to the actual assembly??

[hasty mesa]

thats bytecode

[fading pollen]

isnt bytecode just assembly but unreadable

[hasty mesa]

no

[fading pollen]

and vice versa assembly is js the readable version of bytecode

[hasty mesa]

asm is machine code

bytecode is similar to asm as its an instruction but its instructions for the interpreter

[fading pollen]

ohhh

[hasty mesa]

asm is instructions for the machine

[fading pollen]

so basically machine code from compiler bytecode for interpreter?

kind of?

[ancient root]

I ran it 10 times

[hasty mesa]

luau compiles to bytecode then if native is enabled the bytecode is compiled to machine

[fading pollen]

okay okay okay

and how do you have access to the bytecode? is this a website or smth?

[hasty mesa]

its a website

and luau provides tools

to read it

[fading pollen]

that's amazing

can i have the website rq? i'd like to save it for later

[hasty mesa]

https://luau.lonegladiator.dev/
https://play.luau.org/

[fading pollen]

yep that's perfect tysm!

[hasty mesa]

I swapped the order

[ancient root]

order matters?

tf?

[hasty mesa]

its the same instructions

what you are seeing is just noise

[fading pollen]

i mean notice how here it seemed to take less and less time

no idea why but

[hasty mesa]

you are just benching how long a loop runs

[fading pollen]

nvm that was my game starting

lmfao

[fading pollen]

isnt that kinda the goal here

to just bench a loop and see which loop took longer

[hasty mesa]

the local a = i does nothing

[fading pollen]

ohh no i know but i meant when benchmarking something small overall

[hoary cedar]

Doesn't that get optimized away?

[hasty mesa]

yeah

[hasty mesa]

oh yeah ziffix wdyt of my online compiler for roblox

https://haotian2006.github.io/LuauBotSite/playground/

[lament moss]

anybody tryna test a system w me?

[graceful cargo]

Background applications

Or other scripts if you are playing the game with Client instead of running it as a server

The noise could be due to loading

[fading pollen]

it was just to prove a point to someone dw i know

noise always happens in computer science

and in every science actually

lmao

[graceful cargo]

Yh but if you in theory stop all other process, it will give you the same value everytime

[fading pollen]

nope

even if you stop every single process and magically isolate every single thing, the electricity will still travel at slightly different speeds, particle alignement inside the computer will change, etc etc

physics are random by definition, so computer science will be too

[graceful cargo]

That in avg will be the same tho

[fading pollen]

in a perfect world the average will indeed converge to the same when you go to infinity, but from a case-by-case basis it will never ever be the same value

well it could, but the probability is like 1 in god knows how many lmao

[median carbon]

how do i improve more on scripting bruh

[cold marten]

make small game

[stable minnow]

I am trying to learn scripting/coding for years now... anyone got any tips for a beginner?

[turbid plume]

Don't use AI at the starting.

[stable minnow]

Thats what i started with lol

[stable mirage]

what am i seeing 😭

[turbid plume]

It's stop you from building logic, coding is mostly about logic.

[turbid plume]

Feels like a python developer created a calculator.

[stable mirage]

im starting scripting but if u start with ai u will rely on it to much so u wont be able to script on ur own that good

[crisp wind]

pro tip: anchor your scripts

[stable minnow]

How you do that?

[turbid plume]

Pro tip: always test your script.

[stable mirage]

smart just watch brawldevs tut on scripting there good

[crisp wind]

pro tip: set the brick color on your scripts to white

[stable minnow]

How did you guys learn scripting?

[stable mirage]

bro its the same with everthing just practice i started like 2 days ago

[stable minnow]

I started 2 years ago and it still feels like i am a newbie at it

[turbid plume]

Pro tip: Don’t trust the clien never put important game logic or security checks in LocalScripts.

[stable mirage]

let me guess u thought u were good at scripting so u stopped practice

[stable minnow]

NOPE, its the exact opposite I never really understood how to get good at it

its called laziness

[crisp wind]

just code sum light

‘’’
if player is hacking = ban
give me 1000 robux

create fun game : execute()
add money

publish()
‘’’

[stable mirage]

well thats prob why 😭 brawldev has a tut list for advanced stuff idk if that could help

[stable mirage]

i guess bro

[stable minnow]

Thats what chatgpt told me lol

[wise turtle]

like i guess

[stable mirage]

why u asking ai 😭 🙏

[turbid plume]

It's helpful man

[stable mirage]

idk but im a animatior tryna learn scripting but ive never liked the use of ai

[turbid plume]

Oh, that's why.

[stable mirage]

wym 😭

[stable minnow]

Thats one person I saw in 2 years of AI existance that doesn't like it

[turbid plume]

No offense I have some animator freinds scripting feels hard to them.

[stable mirage]

well yea its a whole new thing to learn

[turbid plume]

Use AI but not at the starting because at this time you are just a beginner and need to build foundation of logics if you skipped this part what code AI wrote you can't figure/understand and AI can't do complex coding therefore this is the limiting factor for people who are using AI at the starting.

[stable minnow]

thanks

I guess i gotta swith up my learning strats

[stable mirage]

no one likes ai bro only you 😭 and maybe to ask question but not to do full on scripts

[stable minnow]

Not sure of i can agree with that

[turbid plume]

I just saw my friend created a fps combat game using AI in studio within 5 min I was like Ahhh.

[eternal apex]

How’s this look so far

[stable mirage]

yea but if it gets bugs u wont know how fix cuz u rely on ai

[turbid plume]

Yeah.

[stable minnow]

True

[stable mirage]

make it like brawlhalla

[eternal apex]

Dawg BRAWLHALLA?

Who thinks of a game like that and thinks BRAWLHALLA

[stable mirage]

make people ANGRY

[eternal apex]

You saying BRAWLHALLA made me angry

[stable mirage]

well u could do smash bros but u dont want suied so

[eternal apex]

Well I just wanna make the system and somehow sell it

[stable mirage]

i have NO IDEA how to make that im new at scripting

[eternal apex]

2K and it’s all yours

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[stable minnow]

ask ai how to make one of those

easy

[stable mirage]

im broke thats why im tryna learn scripting i started 2 days ago

[eternal apex]

Well damn

[stable minnow]

Does stuff like that actually sell for 2k?

[eternal apex]

Dude anything can sell

It’s the system itself

[stable minnow]

Alr I am asking ChatGPT for a Tutorial on what ever you made

[eternal apex]

Go ahead

[stable minnow]

Should be a good way to learn right?

[fickle dirge]

a

[turbid plume]

I started learning lua few days ago, now I can write such codes with little bit of difficulty, I want to know is my code okay as a beginner?

local mainGame = game.Workspace:WaitForChild("MainGame")

local plate1 = mainGame.Plates:WaitForChild("Plate1")
local plate2 = mainGame.Plates:WaitForChild("Plate2")
local plate3 = mainGame.Plates:WaitForChild("Plate3")

local plates = mainGame.Plates:GetChildren()

local playerToPlates = {}

for _, plate in ipairs(plates) do
plate.Touched:Connect(function(otherPart)
local character = otherPart.Parent
if not character then return end

local humanoid = character:FindFirstChild("Humanoid")

if humanoid then
  local player = game.Players:GetPlayerFromCharacter(character)
  
  if player then
    playerToPlates[player] = plate
  end
end  

end)
end

while true do
local safePlate = plates[math.random(1, #plates)]
task.wait(10)

for _, player in ipairs(game.Players:GetPlayers()) do
local character = player.Character

if character then
  local humanoid = character:FindFirstChild("Humanoid")
  
  if humanoid then
    if playerToPlates[player] ~= safePlate then
      humanoid.Health = 0
    end
  end        
end

end
end

[gray mantle]

Its Hella simple what are you tryna get us to say exactly

[turbid plume]

Just wanna opinions if I am on right direction or not

[gray mantle]

Uhhh ig so, also just dont bother using pairs and ipairs

[turbid plume]

Okay

[gray mantle]

Id say your logic is a bit too extended, and you should use inverted ifs to shorten your code and indentation

I.e. player in your touched function is just

game.Players:GetPlayerFromCharacter(hit.parent)

You dont need to search for character and humanoid

And you can do inverted if like so

if not player then return end

[turbid plume]

Got it, thanks for the advice 👍

[thick radish]

very good. why do you need to reference plate1, plate2, plate3 in the first place.

[turbid plume]

Yeah I just noticed that too i removed that part now

That reference was useless i removed it

[thick radish]

and its very good, you made sure you check the model if its a actual character, not just a model

[turbid plume]

At first i thought i would use it somehow but at the end i end up using loops

[thick radish]

its alright to use loops ❤️

goodluck on your scripting journey

[turbid plume]

Thanks

[glossy flower]

ain't no way no one typed anything in 40 mins

[pine hearth]

Can someone help me with a InventoryUI? So when I equip a tool it goes into my backpack even though I have a script preventing it from going inside of my backpack for my InventoryUI and when I try to unequip it, it just's equips again.

[thick radish]

video please

[pine hearth]

Can't post video here.

[thick radish]

dms ❤️

[cyan palm]

hi guys, im trying to make this like bot, it posts an embed with a button, when u press the button it should show the next embed as ephermal, for some reason tho it's not working, the buttons don't work and i'm getting "unkown interaction", anyone know how to fix it?

[wanton pecan]

Try using a server with real programmers, pretty sure that'll get you better answers

[cyan palm]

lmao

[wanton pecan]

Sounds like a server-client communication issue to me.

[indigo umbra]

Can do any script, you can pay me after completing or we use mm ( I’m not going first unless you are trusted)

[wooden harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140593348978151464/1352726974245900299/attachment-6.gif.4e97af26e3de7b030ef78f5cd66bdc91.gif

[wanton pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-27609617

[wooden harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[shy cipher]

brother the message below you

[wanton pecan]

Respectfully im stealing this gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[icy heron]

💀

If total force is the same as extra force itll pass

Unless your variables are wrong that isnt how it should sork

[cloud brook]

his logic just doesnt work and not good

[idle stream]

Does anyone have a good advice how to make own economy system in robloxstudio?

[wooden harbor]

Economy like how

just money?

[wooden harbor]

that's too vague

[idle stream]

AnalyticsService ...

a good system

[unique sage]

? bit vague

[idle stream]

I mean how to use AnalyticsService or rather good analytic system

[regal salmon]

economy and analytics are very different

[idle stream]

I find it myself out

[final skiff]

guys im finding ppl to help me build my game, and potentially build a dev group. dm meeee

[wooden harbor]

"help me build my game" 🤡

[unique sage]

"Guys i want unpaid labor and potentially a whole group of people who work for free YOU message me"

[glacial girder]

guys i learn opengl old version

[odd bluff]

"people who take % pls dm me"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1434596307770671124/1441902225940025496/speedpaysinpercent.gif

[glacial girder]

guys what i do next with opengl

[grim void]

I just scripted this wheat system (32 lines of code), what do yall think

[glacial girder]

can you show your code?

[grim void]

sure

[polar zealot]

WHO NEEDS SCRIPTER TO MAKE MENUS OR SHOP GUI AND OTHER ESSENTIAL STUFF

[small prawn]

Theres prob a better way to do it but its fine

[final skiff]

dms

[ashen scarab]

whats better manual coding or using agents

[small prawn]

Manual

Wait wdym agents

Like ai?

[ashen scarab]

yea connect studio to vs code and rojo

and codex

the problem i face with agents is that they create instances for explorer this makes it very messy

[regal salmon]

a mix of both is the most efficient route

though i personally prefer writing code myself, i don't use ai to directly code very often

[ashen scarab]

pretty sure agents rn r not very advanced and can only be used to make slop like brainrot

[regal salmon]

but you shouldnt really just let ai code for you (aka vibe coding), you should use it to assist you instead

[regal salmon]

they are quite capable

just tend to make mistakes and write worse code than a knowledgable human would

[ashen scarab]

how can it assist me?

debugging?

[regal salmon]

it can point out problems you might not have noticed, help you understand topics you don't understand, write tedious code like data sets, etc

when it comes to debugging though, make sure you actually know what it's talking about and what you want

sometimes what it points out isnt unintentional

[small prawn]

Ive made the mistake of using ai for my code and trust me it gets really bad, and if u ever want to add features its gonna be hard because the ai code

I have completely restarted my game due to this

[mellow frigate]

anyone know a scripter who sells tycoon kits

[abstract sentinel]

progress on that project, made some cool designs and yeah working on the core gameplay rn

[rocky pecan]

how do you genuinely start learning luau

i do NOT want youtube tutorials those suck for me

[uncut nest]

yt tutorials work for me

dev forum and roblox official docs could also help

[rocky pecan]

whenever i try tutorials i forget everything after and stall

[winter oyster]

Anyone here want to make a slop game?

[hearty falcon]

im a beginner scripter can i have some help fixing this script i want to do when touched death then colour changes random

this is it

local Death = workspace.DEATH

local rng = Random.new(.Color3.fromRGB(rng:NextInteger(0,255),rng:NextInteger(0,255),rng:NextInteger(0,255))

)

Death.parent.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
if hit.Parent:FindFirstChild("Humanoid") then
hit.Parent:BreakJoints()
end
end)

its not working i need help debugging

nvm fixed

[nimble bear]

where did u get this from 😦

wow

[hearty falcon]

i made it

[dire haven]

nope ur on ur own

[gloomy compass]

local Death = workspace.DEATH

local rng = Random.new(.Color3.fromRGB(rng:NextInteger(0,255),rng:NextInteger(0,255),rng:NextInteger(0,255)))

Death.parent.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    if hit.Parent:FindFirstChild("Humanoid") then
        hit.Parent.Humanoid.Health = 0
        Death.Color = Color3.new(math.random(),math.random(),math.random())
    end
end)

smthing like this will work

replace "Death.Color" with something like "workspace.Part.Color" or smthin

[dreamy phoenix]

Do tycoon games go viral?

[gloomy compass]

sometimes

[hearty falcon]

CAN I GET SME HELP

im stuck rn

game.Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player)

local leaderstats = Instance.new("Folder", player)
leaderstats.Name = 'leaderstats'

local Points = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats)
Points.name = 'Points'

local xp = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats)
xp.name = 'xp'

end)

[gloomy compass]

okay so what's th eissue?

[gloomy compass]

what's the issue..?

[hearty falcon]

itrs not working

[thorny vessel]

Is there's some sort of free Mentorship

[hearty falcon]

i can only see value

i want to see points and xp

[thorny vessel]

I think it's lacking an int value

lemme check my proj rq

[hearty falcon]

ye i think it is

[night drift]

What are yall thoughts on vibe coding?

[hearty falcon]

whats that 😭

[night drift]

Using ai to help you with coding

[thorny vessel]

I'm also still learning so correct me if im wrong. This is my example:

game.Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player)
local leaderstats = Instance.new("Folder")
leaderstats.Name = "leaderstats"
leaderstats.Parent = player

local money = Instance.new("IntValue")
money.Name = "Money"
money.Value = 50
money.Parent = leaderstats

end)

[thorny vessel]

in this case, i think you should try adding an int value = 0

[night drift]

i think name should be with capital N

[hearty falcon]

ok

ive been trying everything to try deubug it

[night drift]

local leaderstats = Instance.new("Folder", player)
leaderstats.Name = 'leaderstats'

local Points = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats) 
Points.Name = 'Points'

local xp = Instance.new("IntValue", leaderstats) 
xp.Name = 'xp'



end)```

[hearty falcon]

cause im watching dev king because hes teachhing

[thorny vessel]

I learnt mine (still learning) from BrawlDev

[hearty falcon]

yea i finshed watching him

[thorny vessel]

then surely u must've watched about "playerstats"

[night drift]

Also it better to do the parenting after like this local Points = Instance.new("IntValue") Points.Parent = leaderstats Points.Name = 'Points'

[thorny vessel]

^
Yea I also recommend it. At the very least, It helps me know what values are and which instance is rooted this from

[night drift]

anyone got something i should try making im maybe intermediate started 2 weeks ago

[agile topaz]

horrible if you dont know the basic

[agile topaz]

why add more lines if you could just parent it instantly with the function

instance.Parent is old way and kinda fills your codes

[thorny vessel]

can u give me an example?

[agile topaz]

local Points = Instance.new("IntValue",leaderstats)
Points.Name = 'Points'

[signal narwhal]

Can anyone make a game with me

[thorny vessel]

What's the structure for the arguments? Are there more like (datatype, parent, ???,???)

[agile topaz]

yeah

(objecttypes,parent)

[night drift]

could cause some timing issues is what some have told me but i could be wrong

[thorny vessel]

For names and values, you'll manually need to assign it right or define

[night drift]

But what if you know the basics and more and can code?

[agile topaz]

yeah

you need to assign it manual

[thorny vessel]

ok ive learned something new. tysm

[agile topaz]

use it but minimally since you need to learn and stuffs

[thorny vessel]

btw, was I correct about giving them an intvalue first so that it will pop out on leaderstats or it can automatically display something without initializing int values?

[agile topaz]

yes as long its in leaderstats folder then it will show

[agile topaz]

local Death = workspace.DEATH
local rng =    Random.new(os.clock())
local rngcolor = Color3.fromRGB(rng:NextInteger(0,255),rng:NextInteger(0,255),rng:NextInteger(0,255))

Death.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    local humanoid = hit.Parent:FindFirstChildOfClass("Humanoid")
    if humanoid then
        humanoid:TakeDamage(humanoid.Health)
        Death.Color = rngcolor
    end
end)

random.new() is a seed

[hearty falcon]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[stuck bone]

Did anyone find a way to fix or bypass the Sky Destroyer AXEzz script issue

[north elm]

is it possible to do this guys
Player joins my game
They get teleported to another experience I don’t own
I want control over which exact server they join (not random matchmaking)

[magic spruce]

Isn't the roblox ai nice to scripting

[ancient root]

With const existing now, should we do const function functionname() end or local function functionname() end

[halcyon berry]

I think that u should use

local model  = hit:FindFirstChildOfClass("model")
if not model then return end
local humanoid = model.Humanoid
if not humanoid then return end 

[agile topaz]

😭

you dont need to verify if its a model

since anything that have humanoid will get killed

[surreal junco]

Guys

Hello

Good evening

[north elm]

does anyone here knows how to find a jobid?

[clever sapphire]

game.JobId

[leaden remnant]

is it dangerous to have a dataservice (the one from leif(youtube)) in replicated storage, it has client and server version but exploiter can get acces to it if everything is avaible for clientit right?

[kind notch]

i got recommended to make a discord acc and join this server how do i get image permissions

[agile topaz]

ReplicatedStorage got access to client so yeah

[leaden remnant]

but why do all tutorials have everything in replicated storage, its one of the most advanced profilestore wrappers i've ever seen, he cant be that stupid to put it in replicated storage

[agile topaz]

script that handle datastore always in serverscriptservice

he is just showing example and not for production use btw

[leaden remnant]

but it also has a client networker and dataservice

local server = require(script.DataServiceServer)
local client = require(script.DataServiceClient)

export type Server = server.DataServiceServer
export type Client = client.DataServiceClient

return {
server = server,
client = client,
}

[agile topaz]

why client need datastore access??

[north elm]

can i find the jobid of a certain game even tho i dont own it?

[agile topaz]

Just make everything on your own after seeing the tutorial usage

[clever sapphire]

"get access to it" is only true in the sense that clients can see the module's code. however... that is a complete non issue in this case since the code is already available online and open source

if you are worried about clients being able to "peek into the server code and freely change anything," then dont worry: that is simply not possible

module scripts must be required from either the client or server. when they are required, they exist only in that context. for example, the server gets their own server-sided version of the module. the client CANNOT see any mutated data inside of this server version

[clever sapphire]

dataservice is perfectly fine

if you really dont want the server side to exist in replicatedstorage, thats also perfectly fine

you can simply move it to serverscriptservice, then tweak anything that is required

[clever sapphire]

actually unsure

with exploits you could probably get the jobid of a server you are in

[leaden remnant]

so i can let it stay in replicated storage

[north elm]

can i dm you

[agile topaz]

btw ngl client for datastore fetching is weird

[clever sapphire]

it doesnt actually touch datastoreservice, i dont believe

it is solely for client replication of server data

[north elm]

can you write me a line of code that does that i just need it so i can rejoin the same server

[clever sapphire]

if it is relating to a game you dont have ownership of, then i wont

[clever sapphire]

sure

[leaden remnant]

are u sure, chatgpt says the completely opposite

[clever sapphire]

the only "security risk" is the fact that the client can see the code, which is not an issue at all. for example, ProfileStore itself is completely open source. anybody can see the code

same logic here

[agile topaz]

replicatedstorage is as secure as the script you have

[clever sapphire]

chatgpt struggles in many capacities. dont take everything it says at face value

[agile topaz]

make sure to actually verify remote and stuff in replicatedstorage

[clever sapphire]

let me show you an example rq

[agile topaz]

true AI is just text prediction algorithm

[clever sapphire]

@leaden remnant

each environment gets their own copy of the module

[leaden remnant]

i already moved my module loader into 2 versions, client verison and server version

[clever sapphire]

does not replicate between server and client or vice versa

[clever sapphire]

you can have a single module loader in replicatedstorage unless their logic differs in some capacity that constitutes separating the scripts

[leaden remnant]

for stuff liek dataServer:getChangedSignal("currency") for guis as example

[clever sapphire]

i believe he misunderstood what the dataservice client side was doing. its all g

[minor hazel]

is scripting the best way to go?

[clever sapphire]

it just creates a client sided copy of the data that is automatically replicated to and can be reacted to

[clever sapphire]

preference

[agile topaz]

i mean if there is array inside the module then its alright

[crimson drum]

why cant u just fire a remote event from server to make change instead of listening from the client

[agile topaz]

i thought it was directly grabbing the data from datastore 😭

[clever sapphire]

manually firing remotes for every insignificant data change gets extremely tedious and frustrating. thats actually one of the primary points that motivates datastore. rather than wiring all these remotes, you just listen via a signal

[minor hazel]

i mean, it is needed for everything so ig it is the one that gives the most and has a higher demand

[agile topaz]

remotevent takes server resource

which suck

[leaden remnant]

i have more client stuff in the dataservice , so it wouldnt make sense to make a remoteevent for that, i would have to fire it everytime sth changes , this is specific for "currency"

[clever sapphire]

yeah. its generally the highest yield skill, but its not generally the "best." but if you learn it to a high level, you will typically see much higher payoff than other skills

[agile topaz]

there is bridge module and stuff to do data transfer and not using remoteevent

[clever sapphire]

its negligible in this case

[minor hazel]

ig u have experience in it, u sound like u do

[clever sapphire]

youre paying a slight bit of bandwidth usage for extreme ease of use. you could even further decrease this by:

1. (unsure if leif's dataservice has this) preventing automatic server -> client replication of some paths

• use a networking module to compress the payload massively

[agile topaz]

if you do it as a hobby then sure

[clever sapphire]

i got a decent amount of experience

[agile topaz]

networking module is underrated

[minor hazel]

im actually looking to monetize it someway

[clever sapphire]

scripting will get you the most job offers and such

[clever sapphire]

if you are willing to put in some time to learn scripting, thatll be your way to go

[crimson drum]

do you make ur own?

[clever sapphire]

fr

[minor hazel]

well im actually going to study software engineering so ig i have to lol

[clever sapphire]

then for sure, go for it

[agile topaz]

Nah.. cause iam lazy but 5uphi Packet Module is good

[minor hazel]

should i start with lua tho? that way i can sell things from roblox in the future?

[agile topaz]

lua is good for beginners

[crimson drum]

yh but also learn some stuff outside of roblox studio

[clever sapphire]

just be aware that even though scripting on roblox is advertised in this "beginner level thumb sucking coding" package, there is a ton of complexity to it as you get deeper. but it is super easy to get into

[crimson drum]

just basic programming skills

[clever sapphire]

packet is a great module

[minor hazel]

aight tysm

i was also learning vfx, yall suggest to do both at the same time? or just focus on scripting

[clever sapphire]

you really dont need to create your own networking module unless you are running into a serious bottleneck or you just like recreating the wheel, which is also fine

[agile topaz]

lua got easy syntax than other languange

[clever sapphire]

vfx actually requires a good amount of scripting, usually

[crimson drum]

I just wanna learn and understand it more

[clever sapphire]

frontend scripting, at least

[agile topaz]

python is easy once you got more into lua

[crimson drum]

if i cant then oh well

[clever sapphire]

to animate some more complex parts of vfx

[crimson drum]

but ill try atleast

[clever sapphire]

then yeah, totally fine to dip your feet into it

it really isnt that hard to create a basic networking module with buffer serialization and deserialization

[agile topaz]

scripting and vfx kinda interconnect with each other if the vfx get more advanced

[minor hazel]

yeah i did like some auras and explosions, it looked kinda good actually, so ill just learn scripting

[minor hazel]

its perfect then

[clever sapphire]

its so simple that you can probably learn most of the implementation from the docs alone
https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/libraries/buffer

[agile topaz]

yeah

[clever sapphire]

if you plan to make any kind of "moving" vfx, you will need scripting. for explosions and auras, thats usually just raw vfx unless it gets complex

let me try and show an example of vfx thatd require scripting if i can find some on twitter rq

[minor hazel]

yeah i want to make those

[clever sapphire]

or actually i can js check syntax's work. hes goated

if you also have any curved projectiles or such, thats scripting

[minor hazel]

yeah i want to make those

ill just watch some tutorials on yt for it ig and start messing around

ty yall

[clever sapphire]

for sure. good luck man

[agile topaz]

gl on the journey

[tribal meadow]

For some reason I got banned from Rodevs for using "AI code"

Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/bBuRxLby

Can anyone explain what's AI about this?

[wise turtle]

looks fine

[tribal meadow]

Do you think this is AI generated?

[gloomy compass]

im surprised how they detected that code as AI

[wise turtle]

no

[gloomy compass]

i mean you cant detect if a code is by AI or not...

[tribal meadow]

I agree

[tribal meadow]

Oh okay

[night hemlock]

this looks entirely human

[gloomy compass]

ye cuz it's literally next to impossible. i mean what are you gonna check? plagarism in the code? yeah good luck. they finna gonna ban us cuz i used the local keyword 🙏

[tribal meadow]

lwk

some guy said that I could just wrap both the database code snippets in a function 😭

[night hemlock]

it could be ai because of some patterns, but there's definitely not any conclusive proof

[tribal meadow]

Idk why but I feel like my code practices were so bad they thought it was AI 😭

[gloomy compass]

which ones? i apparently can't see the code cuz pastebin is banned where im from 🙏

[wooden harbor]

The policy of banning People who uses AI is absurd. Its like banning the use of calculator in mathematics exam, just WHY. Check the quality of my work. if an Architect builds a solid bridge, nobody gives a fk what he used

[tribal meadow]

Okay man atp you're just changing sides 😭

[gloomy compass]

you're right about that analogy but tbh at most, AI creations should be moderated to some extents

cuz like it lacks originality and when you're using AI for say, a commission

it really is just scamming the person at that point

[tribal meadow]

You wrote this a few mins ago btw 🥀

[tribal meadow]

true

[wooden harbor]

wdym "lacks originality",

You gave me your requirements, and I achieved them all, What else you want?

[gloomy compass]

quality, my friend. quality. AI lacks quality.

compare a humans art vs that of an AI

you see a major difference.

[tribal meadow]

True, AI is pretty bad when you fully depend on it

[gloomy compass]

100%

i'm not saying it's not bad, use AI but don't overdo it.

[tribal meadow]

True

[gloomy compass]

wanna use it for your games as placeholders? fine. go ahead.
but don't use it for commissions, events, etc etc and if you REALLY want originality and some quality and "human" feel to any work, just don't use AI to do it.

[tribal meadow]

Some guy decided to alter my appeal to a scam appeal🥀

[tribal meadow]

That's very true

[gloomy compass]

anyways yap session ended. i should lowkey work on my game 😭

[tribal meadow]

Rodev mods are onto smth 😭

Alright man

gluck

[gloomy compass]

they on the breaking bad stuff

[tribal meadow]

lwk

[odd pollen]

As long as you understand all the code and can debug and edit seasminglessly it doens tmatter too much

[wooden harbor]

Quality is also a part of requirement, If the code quality meets the requirement, then it shouldn't matter

[odd pollen]

given the code isnt trash

[tribal meadow]

Yes

[odd pollen]

vibe coding gets bad when you have 100+ lines of code u dont even know exist or what they do

[wooden harbor]

I was banned from RoDevs because i joked about being on my alt

[odd pollen]

is rodevs even a good server

[tribal meadow]

Hiddendevs & rodevs are both bad

[gloomy compass]

that's the point. try getting an AI to make a game that has quality code and doesn't get crapped on easily.

[wooden harbor]

You just suck at prompting and giving relevant context to the LLM

[gloomy compass]

do me a favour, get an AI to make a good looking code.

[odd pollen]

what does this have to do with prompting

[gloomy compass]

any topic, a custom camera system, movement system, wtv.

let's see if it has "quality" or not.

[wooden harbor]

Trust me, you can get an AI to exploit the hardest kind of vulnerabilities (Stack/buffer overflow vun) if you know what you're doing.

[gloomy compass]

will it be full of bugs? lacking security? lacking flexibility? or will it actually be something the future will be built upon

[gloomy compass]

okay let's put it to the test then

[wooden harbor]

A cyber sec researcher got AI to exploit thousands of vun in open source projects including linux

[gloomy compass]

i forfeit-

[quick quartz]

is this about that new claude model?

[wooden harbor]

no

thats just to create hype

to justify their absurd plan prices

i believe

[gloomy compass]

can you provide source?

i tried searching it's just about mythos

[wooden harbor]

sure wait

[gloomy compass]

bro who the heck reacted with the pregman emoji 😭

💀

[odd pollen]

HEy claude, hack roblox and give me 1b robux 🤑

[gloomy compass]

nanana

[wooden harbor]

https://finance.biggo.com/news/O8pqOp0Bh5an-7GheDjX

[gloomy compass]

Hey claude, hack the white house and gimme 69 billion dollas

[gloomy compass]

bro that's mythos..

[odd pollen]

Bro they atually cant realess mythos or i will hack everythin 💀

[wooden harbor]

can you read?

its an old post

mythos just in keywords

[odd pollen]

its about opus 4.6

[gloomy compass]

ohh okay

[odd pollen]

lol sql

[wooden harbor]

Sql injection has nothing to do w sql lang itself

[gloomy compass]

well in that case ig you are right that coding wise AI is good but artistic wise it still isn't the goto if you want a more "human" look on things.

[wooden harbor]

AI is as good as the person using it. If your prompts are vague, it'll make assumptions which generates generic sub optimal code and behavior

[gloomy compass]

yeah, sure. i get your point.

[odd pollen]

Just ask ai how to prompt ogod

good

And make it prompt for you

[quick quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1493336858963345438/1493341188529455335/tungtunggod.gif

[gloomy compass]

i wish you failure

[gloomy compass]

big brain move muchacho.

[quick quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979078806692319252/1241510121830617088/togif.gif

[gloomy compass]

man how much do i have to yap to be able to post links :(

i want to unleash my degen meme list /joke

[odd pollen]

Do any of you hit your usage limits with Claude or codex

[gloomy compass]

i did once..? but only when i was using it for advice on some stupid thing..

[odd pollen]

Has anyone here tried to learn a memory language after something like lua or python

How hard is it

[gloomy compass]

i did

C is very easy tbh

[odd pollen]

People on Reddit say it’s not hard

[gloomy compass]

same for C++

not that hard

you get the hang of it after a while

[odd pollen]

Some people said learn C before C++ but others said that good C code is trash C++ so you’ll be wasting time

[gloomy compass]

learn C then C++

C++ is literally C with a few mor things

C gives you a good idea on memory management

C++ is like the upgraded tutorial

[odd pollen]

Kk

[gloomy compass]

ye

[odd pollen]

How how much experience u got with C and C++

[gloomy compass]

i got much with C but not SUUPER much with C++

like i'd say im decent..?

not the best, not the worst.

[wooden harbor]

Or you can skip C entirely unless you want to for some reason

[gloomy compass]

you can but i won't personally recommend that

C and C++ are very similar but C is good for beginners as compared to C++

learning C then going to C++ is a good strat imo.

rest is upto whoever wants to do whatever.

[odd pollen]

I’ve seen like memes about c++ template errors

[wooden harbor]

means you suck designing code and at creating generics

[odd pollen]

I heard meta banned template metaprogramming because it added unnecessary complexity

[wooden harbor]

yes extremely unmaintainable

[zinc sand]

any good public state managers out rn?

[wooden harbor]

Meta programming only sounds good in small scripts, in large production codebase it's a nightmare to manage

[bleak glade]

charm

[zinc sand]

oh yeah that's the one I'm looking at rn

you've used it?

[bleak glade]

use rc.5 it changes from atoms to signals

[zinc sand]

atoms bad?

[zinc sand]

I thought rc.5 was causing bunch of problems

[odd pollen]

How much experience do you have in c++

[zinc sand]

nvm I read it wrong

[wooden harbor]

idk 2 years, Only limited to simulations, games and servers

[bleak glade]

signals are just better

theres actual getters and setters instead of a single function for both

[wooden harbor]

its not bruh, have you seen the list of undefined behaviors something as simple as i = i++ is undefined, any assignment can happen first

[twilit parrot]

where do i find a scripter

[visual tree]

Idk

[gloomy compass]

did this guy get kicked or what

[quick dock]

is there is something I can open report UI for a player with or like at least roblox player list ?

[manic lichen]

instead of a terminal, can sitting down watching brawldev yt on a big 48inch tv and writing down code in your notebook be effective too?

[somber linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1292844286966108252/1464247816380616774/attachment.gif

[marsh osprey]

the goat himself

[marsh osprey]

Print("Hello World\n");

[somber linden]

Terry Davis Roblox Studio tutorial

[solemn dawn]

its sad he didnt make roblox on temple

and died

[fleet carbon]

anyone down to make a game, where you gotta throw your phone really hard, for points 🤔

[jovial moat]

Wait this might be the next best thing

Take my money

Add detection for when it hits a wall

For bonus points

[sturdy turtle]

Would anyone be interested in a rocket league heatseeker type game

[supple spindle]

dm

[hybrid basin]

that would be tuff

[lost gulch]

🤣

[lost gulch]

This is Roblox studio luau not the language C lol

[ancient moon]

quick question

Is it possible to add delay to weld?

[glacial vault]

Yeah, just wrap it in a task.delay:
task.delay(2, function() local weld = Instance.new("WeldConstraint") weld.Part0 = partA weld.Part1 = partB weld.Parent = partA end)
Change 2 to however many seconds you want the delay to be.

If it is what I think your trying to say atleast.

[ancient moon]

thats when u want to make the object/part to be welded

lets say i connect a part to the humanoidrootpart using weld

and i want that weld to have a bit of delay so like when i move the part will also move after the delay is done

rather than moving the same time im moving

[glacial vault]

Ah got it, you want a lag/follow delay effect not just a delayed weld. For that you'd use a loop that smoothly lerps the part toward the HRP position instead of a weld:

local part = -- your part
local hrp = character.HumanoidRootPart
local SPEED = 0.1 -- lower = more delay
game:GetService("RunService").Heartbeat:Connect(function()
part.CFrame = part.CFrame:Lerp(hrp.CFrame, SPEED)
end)
The lower the SPEED value the more it lags behind. A weld won't give you that effect since it moves instantly — lerp is the way to go for this.

I think I answered your question.

[ancient moon]

ye i see

i am using CFrame.lerp

but when used on server, it becomes bad

it aint smooth at all

so i use on client

but no one sees it

so how can i fix that/

[glacial vault]

Yeah that's a classic network ownership issue. The fix is to move the part on the client but use a RemoteEvent to tell the server the position so other players can see it. But honestly the cleanest solution is to just set the network
owner of the part to the player:

part:SetNetworkOwner(player)

Put that on the server when the part is assigned to the player. Once they own it, their client controls the physics and movement and everyone sees it smoothly — no RemoteEvents needed.

If it's an unanchored part this should work straight away. If it's anchored you'll need to keep the lerp on the client and sync position to the server periodically with a RemoteEvent.

Should be able to fix your issue.

[ancient moon]

woah

setnetworkowner?

so after i lerp it

i can just do that

and everyone will be able to see it

and plus

the client will handle the physics and stuff

which will make it look better

[glacial vault]

Exactly, but just to clarify SetNetworkOwner doesn't work with lerp directly. Here's the distinction:

If the part is unanchored:
Just do part:SetNetworkOwner(player) on the server and the client automatically handles the physics. Everyone sees it smoothly, no extra work needed.

If the part is anchored:
Network ownership doesn't apply to anchored parts. You'd need to lerp on the client and use a RemoteEvent to sync the position to the server so it replicates to everyone else.

So which one are you using — anchored or unanchored?

[ancient moon]

its a rig

and its all unanchored

[glacial vault]

Perfect, then it's simple. Just set the network owner on the server when the rig is assigned to the player:

rig:SetNetworkOwner(player)
Then do your lerp on the client like you already are. Since the client owns the network, their movement will replicate smoothly to everyone else automatically. No RemoteEvents needed

[ancient moon]

alr bro ty

[grizzled crystal]

what is the best way to code a projectiles? like should I fire instantly to the client and mark the time with getservertime then send it to server to fire for everybody else?

[glacial vault]

No problem

[balmy sorrel]

Client sends only what is neccessary to server (shot origin, shot direction, unix time or however you track time), server makes sure this data is possible, then replicate to other clients via that same data.

[grizzled crystal]

so I was somewhat right?

[balmy sorrel]

Pretty much

I recommend doing hit detection on the client and validating the projectile trajectory on the server

[plush oxide]

how does animating work in a viewport frame?

[grizzled crystal]

hmm what if client is lagging though?

[balmy sorrel]

you can (if you have a good caster) calculate the time it should take for the shot to hit said position and determine based on that how laggy a player is.

You can add a valid range of time for the shot to hit it's target like 1 or so seconds

if the client hits the target outside of the valid time frame from the time the shot was fired then you can choose to invalidate the shot.

[balmy sorrel]

Add a WorldModel to the viewport frame and parent the rig to the WorldModel

[plush oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[plush oxide]

can i still play the animation on the humanoid

or nah

[balmy sorrel]

yes

[pale jacinth]

so erm who ccan help me rq

with gui scaling problem

[glacial vault]

Yeah, whats up?

[pale jacinth]

erm i tried using the plugin but its not working

if you wonna join voice i can show

[glacial vault]

yeah

@royal hamlet

i could help you whats wrong?

[rocky skiff]

@glacial vault

big question

big very important question

[glacial vault]

yes

[mighty mirage]

What plugin...?

[rocky skiff]

can server scripts in roblox accidentally share state between sessions because of module script caching? bcuz i'm seeing data persist across matches when using modules as singletons. is require() caching causing this? or wha

[pine hearth]

Can someone help me with a InventoryUI? So when I equip a tool it goes into my backpack even though I have a script preventing it from going inside of my backpack for my InventoryUI and when I try to unequip it, it just's equips again.

[glacial vault]

Yeah require() caching is exactly the cause. The module loads once when the server starts and stays in memory the whole server lifetime so any state stored inside it like player tables or scores never resets between matches unless
you explicitly tell it to.
The fix is just add a reset function and call it at the start of each match:
function Data.reset()
Data.players = {}
Data.scores = {}
end

Call Data.reset() when your new round starts and you'll have clean state every time. The caching itself isn't a bug — just make sure you're not relying on the module to reset itself because it never will.

[regal salmon]

ai response 🙏

[broken grove]

can you explain more

wdym by between sessions

and what data persists

[rocky skiff]

so require caching isn’t the issue itself? it’s more that using modules as mutable state makes lifecycle management implicit but wouldn’t it be safer to scope state per match instance instead of relying on manual reset calls?

[rocky skiff]

ya lemme explain

[glacial vault]

Exactly right. Manual reset is fragile if any code path skips it or errors before it runs you're back to leaking state. Scoping per match instance is the cleaner architecture

[rocky skiff]

by sessions i mean like individual server instance. a match or round can restart inside the same server without the server actually shutting down. modules are cached per server process so anything stored in a module table (like player data cores wtv you got) will persist for as long as that server is alive. it doesn’t reset between rounds unless you manually clear it or recreate the state

[regal salmon]

just in case youre unaware, theyre just putting what youre saying into ai and giving back the response
seems youre essentially just talking to claude with a mediator

[rocky skiff]

i'm just going w the flow ngl

i expected a real reply but

atp i might js dip and ask claude itself

[regal salmon]

😭

[rocky skiff]

well okay thanks

[broken grove]

not claude

thats gotta be chat gpt

since its so willing to just hallucinate details

[glacial vault]

Send me something broken right now and I'll fix it live. That's the only proof that matters.

If you want to compete then ig.

[regal salmon]

[glacial vault]

Believe what you want.

Its not like ur helping anyone here 💀

[regal salmon]

i never said it wasnt helpful, i didnt reply because you already had
i'm just pointing out that you're using AI to respond and it's taking longer than if they went and used AI on their own

[glacial vault]

At this point your just rage baiting.

[regal salmon]

lmfao

this guy yo

[pale jacinth]

its the ui scale one like the one that add constraints and like unit conversion

[mighty mirage]

Ohh I see

[balmy sorrel]

Dugga

[thick radish]

gang, you arent creative when you used ai ❤️

you cant call yourself a coder/scripter if you used ai to do your nasty work

such a embarassment 🙏

[thick radish]

"Exactly right. that response looks like mine, im sorry. to know the difference between human and ai, you must check their stupidity."

[glacial vault]

who is u tho

[thick radish]

a scripter

[glacial vault]

just becuase i was lazy and i didnt wanna do it myself doesnt mean im not a scripter

like

[thick radish]

even your works are ai

[glacial vault]

your not even in my server how would u even know 💀

[thick radish]

i check it

and leave immediately

your anti-cheat script is entirely ai. even the description is ai. whys that

[glacial vault]

Alright so what are you proving like how are my scripts ai

dawg

explain how

[rigid cedar]

ragebait competition

[thick radish]

count on who won ❤️

[rigid cedar]

im good bro

[thick radish]

the only prove if you show the script

because i would like to show you the explaination

[glacial vault]

I dont need to show u nun lol

[thick radish]

too scared to show the ai's work?

[glacial vault]

because im not insecure I dont need to prove to a little kid like u on discord all day telling me im wrong like who is you.

[thick radish]

im not wrong or right. using ai to explain someone's help is bad because theyre outdated and not right all the time!

[rigid cedar]

i cant seriously read this and not think it's ai though lets be real

[glacial vault]

nah

[rigid cedar]

dude literally has an em dash in it too

[glacial vault]

I didnt say it wasnt

I admit it use ai?

[thick radish]

i will check your port again

[glacial vault]

alr

[rigid cedar]

and you expect people to believe your competency if you have to reply to a basic question on how module scripts work with ai

im just saying man

[glacial vault]

nah your 100% right though

[thick radish]

in your admin system, the button has the text "Button" on the center 💔

[thick radish]

use your own description beside ai because you have to show that your work is legit and knowledgable

[glacial vault]

that doesnt mean it's ai though like

[thick radish]

sure but i got the same result with ai

not entirely the same but similar

[glacial vault]

bro

[glacial vault]

doesnt mean nothing

[thick radish]

it does?

it really does

and i want to end this arguement right now

because this is nonsense to use ai to act like a developer

[glacial vault]

How if it isnt the same I could go to ai rn and go ask it to make a admin system that is the same

Like you dont make sense

[thick radish]

please do ❤️

and use the same prompt like you did on the admin system please.

[tacit plank]

whats going on

[glacial vault]

what im saying is that not matter whos admin system ai is going to try to get super similar results

[thick radish]

developers

[thick radish]

why do you think its not matter when the same style of yours and the ai is literally the same!

[tacit plank]

specify

[thick radish]

using ai to act as a developer

[tacit plank]

like ai scripts

[thick radish]

not mostly

[tacit plank]

using ai for anything else but scripts is uhh

[thick radish]

i will ask claude to generate a admin system ui and give you the result

[tacit plank]

bad

[glacial vault]

Senior devs at actual studios use Copilot, Chatgpt, everything. using a tool doesn't make you less of a developer, not understanding what you built does. I can explain every system in that admin system line by line the rank hierarchy, the remote event. system, the tween values, why the overlay is a TextButton and not a Frame. can someone who just copied AI output do that? ask me anything specific right now.

Like

your honestly wrong

[tacit plank]

i feel as if your some "ai bro"

[thick radish]

you can explain it to me right now?

im ready to ask questions

[glacial vault]

okay ask me lmao

[thick radish]

dont use ai ❤️

[glacial vault]

You dont have anything.

[thick radish]

how would you make a Announce button in that admin system. how does it work

[tacit plank]

text button

and script

[glacial vault]

Exactly, because you think its ai but its not.

[thick radish]

thats not the answer im looking for, quit stalling and answer it immediately

[glacial vault]

Im answering it right now hold on you messed me up

[modern seal]

ai is okay imo under a few circunstances

• codebase is heavily obfuscated unreadable
• slop game who cares tbhh
• debugging tool

[thick radish]

waiting for the ai's response

[tacit plank]

is it okay for like placing notes

if its a huge script

[glacial vault]

the anounce command fires a remoteevent to the server which then like broadcasts it to every client and then each client has a listener that slides a banner down from the top showing the message

like

[modern seal]

commenting ?

[thick radish]

its okay to use it for optimization and debugging! not using it for everything

[glacial vault]

give me more question

questions

**

[tacit plank]

yeah but like it explains a certain amount of sections in a huge script

maybe for when i forget

[tacit plank]

yes i mean comments

placing comments

[thick radish]

how about this, how did you "Implement" the ban system, not acting as a kick but actual ban

[thick radish]

ai is weak when it comes to huge line of scripts tho.

[tacit plank]

i mean it could possibly comment correctly

[rigid cedar]

stronger LLMs nowadays are really strong at writing code but still requires a lot of supervision and guidance

but if tuned right or used correctly you can save yourself a ton of time actually writing the code

[thick radish]

have to prompt it perfectly and bit of a reprompts

[tacit plank]

maybe

[glacial vault]

The ban stores the player's UserId in a BanList table on the server. When the player joins playeradded checks if their UserId is in that list and kicks them immediately if it is. So even if they rejoin they get kicked on entry before they can do anything its honestly common knowledge.

[tacit plank]

i do know how to comment btw

just saying

sometimes i js get confused

[rigid cedar]

having actual technical knowledge allows you to cut down the time you spend on designing the systems and fixing usually obvious design or technical flaws which still is much better than writing code yourself if you understand the underlying design

[thick radish]

its not honestly basic common knowledge.
never knew you talk so slow.

[glacial vault]

The only reason I have used ai for the description of my scripts beacause it makes it sound more elegant

[glacial vault]

Im thinking what to say.

[thick radish]

but that would ruin your own hardwork 💔

[rigid cedar]

and personally i use ai all the time nowadays saves me a lot of time writing code i cant be bothered to write myself as long as i vet it

[thick radish]

same here ❤️

[tacit plank]

elegant??

[glacial vault]

Is that bad now

[glacial vault]

Yeah.

Im not a writer,

[tacit plank]

why u need it to be elegant

[thick radish]

yes?

[tacit plank]

sad

[glacial vault]

I dont know because I like it?

[thick radish]

describing is not the same as writing

[tacit plank]

make it elegant for a script inspector

[rigid cedar]

yall are just witch hunting if you believe using ai to write an elegant description isnt actually valid

[tacit plank]

nicce

[thick radish]

its not like william shakespare writing

[rigid cedar]

not that i believe he's not using ai to reply to your questions but it's a step too far

[thick radish]

please look up 💔

[tacit plank]

i think that would be funny

[thick radish]

it just looks unnatural, "Exactly right"

[glacial vault]

Bro

[thick radish]

becuase look at this gang

[glacial vault]

I dont know what to say anyone you ragebaiting at this point

[rigid cedar]

ragebait competition

[thick radish]

no keyboard has "—" key

[thick radish]

not ragebaiting, giving you the taste of reality

if you want to rely on ai entirely, go for it. its just laughable when you want to vibe coding and be called "Professional coder"

[tacit plank]

okay hes calling himself a coder while using ai

ragebaiting you

lol

[thick radish]

thats like microwaving frozen food and called yourself a professional chef

[tacit plank]

exactly

[thick radish]

https://tenor.com/view/shinee-taemin-shinee-taemin-meme-shinee-meme-gif-14697463423777076474

[glacial vault]

what

[glacial vault]

r u dumb -

[thick radish]

cant you look for a minute please

[glacial vault]

like it snot

[thick radish]

@tacit plank check at it ❤️

whenever its a — or -

[glacial vault]

--

its possible

like

[rigid cedar]

an em dash is not two dashes bro

— -- -

completely different symbol

you need to hold alt and press 0151 on your numpad to type that in anything other than a word processor lol

[glacial vault]

I didnt say what i said earlier wasnt ai im saying my work isnt ai

[thick radish]

true, thats my wrong there. why would you use ai to describe something when you got a brain

god gave you a brain for you to think, not ai ❤️

[tacit plank]

im back

AI uses M dash

dead giveaway

[thick radish]

too bad ❤️

[glacial vault]

Your right a 100% but I honestly feel like I could get a better description from ai because its almost perfect.

[rigid cedar]

perfect is an overstatement

[glacial vault]

you can write better than ai?

[thick radish]

no need to be perfect! this is not a interview or something

[glacial vault]

I guess.

[rigid cedar]

not me but many great authors can

i enjoy reading really well written works like those

[tacit plank]

hes not getting a job anyway

[thick radish]

i made a story about 2 stickman fighting each other

[glacial vault]

I mean your the one who's saying it though

[rigid cedar]

course, doesnt mean i need to be able to write at that level

im just an admirer

[glacial vault]

What r trying to say lol

[tacit plank]

bro

read it

[glacial vault]

Idk if its an insult

or something good.

[tacit plank]

depends how you interpret it

idk you

[glacial vault]

Okay

[glad apex]

why is it that when i print tostring(PlayerData) (module) it will print 2 different things
playerdata.profiles (a table) has data inside of the playerdata module itself but when referenced externally it has nothing

[thick radish]

is it server to client or server to server

[glad apex]

server to server

a module requiring another one

[thick radish]

make sure the instance are the same ❤️

because same thing happened to it. i have to use it in server to server

[glad apex]

what do u mean

[thick radish]

if you have 2 instances, they have different references

[glad apex]

when the table changed in playerdata it should change across all points its being referenced no?

nvm i foudn the problem my bootstrapper is broken

[thick radish]

yes it does ❤️

bootstrapper has that problem?

[glad apex]

bootstrapper is supposed to load the thing first but another module loads it first instead

[thick radish]

ahh alright. thats interesting, glad you solve it yourself ❤️

[merry hull]

Is there any solution to preventing user from flinging

my dash code use BodyVelocity and MaxForce

[cold lion]

how to get the fav prompt and group join prompt

[merry hull]

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/GroupService#PromptJoinAsync

This could work

[idle stream]

Guy what is UIAspectRatioConstraint and how I can work with them? Have any one a good tutorial or smth for me pls

[dense spade]

very informative 👍

why is ur icons like that

[lost burrow]

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/vanilla-3-the-pragmatic-icon-set-for-roblox-studio/935745

[idle stream]

bc he is cool 😎

[dense spade]

oh cool

[idle stream]

@lost burrow any chance that I can get premission to send images?

test

nvm

[drifting ice]

hey guys is it a good way to learn code to find a copy of a game i like and look at the code and learn from that?

my friend advised me to do this

[clever kindle]

yes it is

but if advise

you have a good understanding of the basics first

otherwise you won’t understand any other game you look at

[drifting ice]

i did a tutorial series and i somewhat understand what stuff does