code-discussion

[night hemlock]

yes but if you call them from the client they're only visible to one person

[languid kraken]

Ye the server obviously will tell all clients

And animations replicate to all players by default

(Unless it is not a player animation)

[night hemlock]

True, but if you load them from the client then exploiters can steal them

[languid kraken]

So what?

They aren't that special there are gazillions of effects to steal

And if you do it on the server it will be very delayed

[night hemlock]

Depends on ping

[normal solar]

larp

[stable verge]

X

[heavy jacinth]

?

[unique needle]

Twitter basically

[heavy jacinth]

oh

any discord stuidos?

[fallen heart]

I need help

How do I learn how to script

[thick crater]

plenty of great tutorials and guides out there though i recommend you get more experience with a easier programming lanugage like Python to learn the ropes of programming and then get into scripting with Roblox's Lua code

[inland dragon]

What would you like to make

[fallen heart]

A FPS game

[inland dragon]

Python is harder then luau but far more powerful

[inland dragon]

Ok so

I’m on mobile so I may take a bit to type this

[thick crater]

It's like reading plain english for most

[fallen heart]

ok

[inland dragon]

Luau is easier for far more people

[fallen heart]

ok

[thick crater]

Depends, though @fallen heart I recommend watching some tutorials and creating some stuff on your own before actually going on to make a FPS system

[fallen heart]

So like a hide and seek game?

[inland dragon]

When you want to make a game, it’s not just coding that goes into it.
You have to develop models for the guns, have to make a map, make UI (User inteface) like buttons frames etc, animations and far much other things that all go into their own role

Programming is putting all these together.
You cannot js make a game js by knowing how to code

You need to start off with things that only take coding

For example a round system

[fallen heart]

Ok

[thick crater]

Build whatever your heart desires, just one that isn't complicated and can teach you many things

[inland dragon]

Search up brawl dev on yt and use his tutorials

[fallen heart]

So where can I learn?

Ok

[inland dragon]

For every video u learn smth try it out and experiment with it

[fallen heart]

Can I add you and DM you if I ever need help?

[inland dragon]

Yh

[thick crater]

Tutorials on YouTube, guides online (search up Roblox LuaU guides), read and learn how to read the documentation, etc.

[fallen heart]

Thanks

[inland dragon]

Also don’t use ai
Only use it if ur fully stuck and cannot find it on google
And when u do make sure it doesn’t write the code for u but explains the topic

[fallen heart]

Ok

So not what I was doing 5 minutes ago

[inland dragon]

Yea

Programming in it self is easy
It’s not hard at all
All it takes is consistency

[fallen heart]

ok

[fallen heart]

thank you

[inland dragon]

Np

[spice hill]

i dont agree with allat yap

[inland dragon]

Why?

[spice hill]

all those all nighters trying to fix my bugs in cpp

[inland dragon]

🤔

[inland dragon]

🤣

[spice hill]

😭

[heady sluice]

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[late valve]

u absolutely SHOULD use OOP doing that HitboxTemplate.New(WeaponData) thing is the best way. cuz think about it, u need to save data right? like u gotta keep a list of dudes u already hit so ur sword doesn't damage the same guy 60 times in one swing lol. OOP makes that super easy cuz it saves the "state" of the hitbox.
BUT... dont put it all in one script
u really shouldn't put :Melee, :Projectile, and :Area all in the exact same script. if u do that, ur gonna make what nerds call a "God Object" and its gonna be a massive headache later.
cuz the math for them is totally different bro:
Melee: is basically checking if parts touch (spatial queries).
Projectiles: are shooting raycasts every frame and using physics.
Area: is just a quick radius check.
if u cram all that junk into one script, its gonna be huge and break all the time.
what u should do instead:
u should do MULTIPLE module scripts but keep it OOP. kinda like this:
HitboxBase (just handles the basic stuff like dealing damage n checking teams)
MeleeHitbox (uses the base script, but only handles sword swings n punches)
ProjectileHitbox (uses the base script, but only handles bullets n magic)
doing it like this keeps it clean so u dont lose ur mind trying to fix bugs later.

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[granite summit]

Ur hitbox can just call the touched function with the roblox script signal supported :Once, no need to use OOP with hitboxs.

[late valve]

basically script A is waiting for script B to load, but script B is waiting for script A. so they just stare at each other forever and roblox crashes.
if u wanna fix it the legit pro way, u gotta use what nerds call "decoupling" or event-driven stuff. tbh ur hitbox script shouldn't even know what a PlayerState is. it shouldn't care at all.
think of the hitbox as just a dumb tool. its only job is to scan the area, find a dude, and yell "YO I HIT THIS GUY!". it shouldn't be doing any of the math or checking states.
so instead of the hitbox requiring PlayerState, u just make the hitbox fire off a custom signal or callback whenever it touches something.
since ur WeaponSystem is what created the hitbox, and WeaponSystem already knows about PlayerState, u just make the WeaponSystem listen to the hitbox. when the WeaponSystem hears the hitbox yell that it hit somebody, the WeaponSystem is the one that steps in, grabs the PlayerState, and checks the values.
doing it like this totally breaks the loop cuz the hitbox never has to require the PlayerState script ever again. the arrows only point one way now. plus it makes ur hitbox way more reusable cuz u can slap it on a falling rock or a trap that doesn't even use PlayerState and it wont break.

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[granite summit]

true, I was thinking of a system where you spawn your hitbox on activation of said tool, rather then enabling yourhitbox on activation

[late valve]

ur hitbox script shouldn't be the one actually taking away the health. a hitbox is literally just a sensor. it’s just an invisible box that says "hey, i touched this dude!" and that is IT.
cuz think about it like this... if u hardcode the damage stuff inside the hitbox module itself, what happens if u wanna make a healing area spell later? or like a bounce pad that just launches dudes in the air? if the hitbox always does damage, u cant reuse it for those things without making a whole new script.
but if ur hitbox just fires off a signal saying "yo I found a guy", then ur WeaponSystem (or whatever script made the hitbox) can decide what to actually do with that info.
if it’s a sword, the WeaponSystem hears the signal and deals damage. if it’s a healing staff, it hears the signal and gives health. if it hits a wall, maybe it plays a clank sound.
doing it this way makes ur hitbox completely reusable for literally anything in ur game, and totally stops those annoying require loops u were getting

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[late valve]

if it tries to grab the main PlayerState module to look up the victim, it loops again. that makes total sense.
so here is the pro move for that. u gotta pass the message up one more level, or use a middleman!
think about it like a chain of command. ur WeaponSystem shouldn't be the one checking the victim's state either. when the Hitbox tells the WeaponSystem "yo i hit this dude", the WeaponSystem just turns around and tells its OWN PlayerState (the attacker) "yo, my sword just smacked this guy for 20 damage".
then, u have one big boss script. like a top-level Server Script (maybe call it CombatManager or something). this big boss script is the ONLY thing allowed to require the main PlayerState module to look up everyone's states.
so ur attacker's PlayerState just shouts out to the CombatManager "hey boss, i hit this guy!". and the CombatManager is the one that actually looks up the victim's PlayerState and takes away their health.
cuz the CombatManager is just a regular server script at the very top, nothing requires it, so it literally can't cause a loop! u just bubble the info all the way up the chain:
Hitbox -> WeaponSystem -> Attacker's PlayerState -> CombatManager.
doing it this way means ur modules never have to look at each other, they just report to the boss script.

[late valve]

PlayerState[Enemy]:TakeDamage(), u still have to get that PlayerState master table from somewhere, right? which means ur probably putting require(PlayerState) at the top of ur WeaponSystem script so u can actually look up the enemy.
and boom, there is ur loop again! cuz PlayerState requires WeaponSystem, and WeaponSystem turns around and requires PlayerState to get that master table.

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[late valve]

since self.PlayerState is ONLY the attacker's state, ur weapon script literally has no idea who the enemy is or how to get their state. and if u try to require the master module to find the enemy, u get that loop again.
so here is the super easy fix using what u already built.
since ur WeaponSystem has self.PlayerState, u can just call a function on it!
instead of the WeaponSystem trying to look up the enemy's state, just make a new function inside ur main PlayerState script called something like :AttackEnemy(enemyCharacter, damageAmount).
then, when ur hitbox finds a guy, ur WeaponSystem just does:
self.PlayerState:AttackEnemy(Hit.Parent, Amount)
cuz think about it... that :AttackEnemy() function actually runs back inside the main PlayerState script. and the main PlayerState script ALREADY knows where the master table is! so inside that function, it can easily do PlayerState[enemyCharacter]:TakeDamage(Amount) without requiring anything at all.

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[late valve]

u gotta make a 3rd script. literally just a totally empty module script. nerds call it a "Registry" or a "State Manager".
all this script does is hold a table of everyone's states. it has absolutely zero logic in it.
like this:
StateRegistry (just an empty table)
PlayerState (requires StateRegistry)
WeaponSystem (requires StateRegistry)

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[wraith bridge]

why does my game say "this experience is currently not available"

[late valve]

If you mean when published maybe because you didn't respond to the maturity content quiz

You can find it In Roblox dashboard on you're game page

[wraith bridge]

Ok ill try that ty

[late valve]

how u should actually structure it:
just put them all in the same folder as siblings. that is the cleanest industry standard way. like this:
📁 Controllers (Folder)
📄 StateRegistry (the dumb phonebook)
📄 PlayerController (requires StateRegistry)
📄 HumanoidController (requires StateRegistry)
doing it this way means the Registry just sits there chilling. when PlayerController makes a new state, it just writes it into the Registry. when HumanoidController (or WeaponSystem) needs to smack someone, it just reads the Registry to find them. no loops, no weird parent-child rules, just clean decoupled code.

I just translate the things I write with ai cause i don't speak well english it's nothing too complicated

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[late valve]

Perfect

Don't worry if feels weird right now it's what you should do

Loop should be fixed

[late valve]

Thx

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[late valve]

No problem you can ask everytime you need even dm i don't mind helping

[heady sluice]

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[late valve]

I just did combat system for all the 3 years I've been scripting and using luau

[heady sluice]

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[late valve]

There's plenty of things to handle but now with the new libraries it's easier

And alone it's not easy at all

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[late valve]

Chrono right now for combat

But depends on what you're doing

If you have you're own framework don't change and keep pushing by yourself

[waxen gull]

Can I see the code by chance

[heady sluice]

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[late valve]

What code ?

[late valve]

Yep it's awesome

[waxen gull]

Your combat

[late valve]

No I'm not giving anything for free...

[waxen gull]

I don't want your combat to use

I just want to see the code

[cyan lantern]

damn i have never seen #code-discussion being this packed

be quiet afminbot

[acoustic tangle]

what do u guys think is the best most efficient way to make projectiles

[cold pebble]

whats the mathematical angle for pointing an r6 arm forward in dummies?

motor.C0 = CFrame.new(0, -1, 0) * CFrame.Angles(0, math.pi, 0)
motor.C1 = CFrame.new() does not help at all, it only points it backward

[icy heron]

use IK

[cold pebble]

i see thanks'

no one doing that

[cold pebble]

that makes them sideways

but im assuming i gotta adjust it

[cyan lantern]

maybe linear interpolation

[orchid arch]

metal object and some gunpowder

[lost gulch]

That’s boring lol

Simple code to show ain’t gonna hurt ya

sharing code and learning from each other is part of the process 🤷‍♂️

[deft coral]

drop some code

[wise turtle]

print("Hello World")

[bleak glade]

what elo is this

[cold pebble]

how did you guys learn coding can someone tell im curious

me personally i learned it through college and some tutorials

[wise turtle]

3k elo

[opaque thistle]

documents help alot

[wary sluice]

    game:GetService("AvatarEditorService"):PromptSetFavorite(GAME_ID, 1, true)

This locks the mouse if you're in first person, and I can't get around any way to unlock it. And this doesn't yield until player closes the prompt either. Can anyone please tell me if there are any solution for this?

It only yields until the prompt is shown

But there seems to be no way of figuring out whether the prompt closed or not.

alright imaj ust do custom prompt

with modal

[cold pebble]

thats kinda a limitation of the avatar editor prompts they lock the mouse in first person and theres no clean event for when it closes if its causing issues a custom prompt with modal gui is probably the best workaround

[deft coral]

There is tho

Theres an API for when any prompt closes iirc

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/ExperienceNotificationService#OptInPromptClosed

[deft coral]

Check above

Also set UserInputService.MouseBehavior to free or whatever

Every frame

Will force unlock

[cold pebble]

you can use ExperienceNotificationService.OptInPromptClosed to detect when a prompt closes but keep in mind AvatarEditorService prompts might still lock the mouse so a custom modal could still be safer for full control

[deft coral]

You can't do a custom modal though tmk

[cold pebble]

but you can make your own gui that mimics it for visuals and flow while avoiding the mouse lock

[dim compass]

you CAN use tween service

😎

[cold pebble]

im crine

[wary sluice]

Wow

Thanks for that

I was looking for exactly that

[wary sluice]

No... it doesnt work

It doesn't detect the favorite prompt closing

thats for notifications not favorite 😭

ohh gg i found this AvatarEditorService.PromptSetFavoriteCompleted

[wary sluice]

ye thats what im doing

[glacial garnet]

best start for learning to code? (ik basics of scripting but only bcs i work in frontend primarily)

[cold pebble]

learn while creating games is what i did at first

[glacial garnet]

yes this is the best advice i give to others when it comes to working on frontend

but did u use a guide along the way, if yes what did resources did u rely on

[tacit tendon]

My game isnt showing up in my Ads manager. Is it because I just set it as public?

[cold pebble]

yess mostly yt tutorials and devforums

[celest grove]

wait, you fr sent it in every channel?

[iron kraken]

[fervent belfry]

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Called by exceluyi

[celest grove]

TextButton.Modal = true?

[wary sluice]

No

[alpine blaze]

I can do all just dms man

[regal temple]

how do i scale buttons in a UiGridLayout

[celest grove]

Wdym no? If you want to unlock mouse for players who are in first person, you should set Modal of TextButton to the true

so mouse unlocks

[wary sluice]

there is no textbutton bro

its roblox core gui

[celest grove]

i js tested it out in roblox studio

it unlocks your mouse even if it's roblox core gui

[wary sluice]

Which textbutton are you talking about?

An invisible one?

[celest grove]

TextButton that you need to create in playergui

and size it= Udim2.new(0,0,0,0)

[wary sluice]

yes, well i am aware of how to unlock mouse

it's just i couldn't figure out how wil i unlock for avatareditor because i have to lock it again too after prompt closing

[celest grove]

just use event

[wary sluice]

. i found the fix

[celest grove]

game:GetService("AvatarEditorService"):PromptSetFavorite(GAME_ID, 1, true)

print('turn on modal')

game:GetService("AvatarEditorService").PromptSetFavoriteCompleted:Connect(Result)
  print('turn off modal')
end```

[celest grove]

oh alr

[wary sluice]

ye

thanks for trying to help

appreciate it

[celest grove]

np

[subtle finch]

is it possible to make it harder for exploiters to hookfunc

[molten jackal]

ngl i need sum assistance trying to regen this fence after i type in a code if u think u can figure it out dm me

[lost pebble]

not really. if a client has access to an event, they will be able to call that event with whatever arguments. you should focus on sanitizing the data sent from the client and making sure nothing is being manipulated. if it is, you could kick, ban, log them, whatever

[noble sonnet]

hm Im not sure abou t my carry system I think I need to smooth it out or something can somone offer any tips or ideas heavily appreciate any feedback

https://www.roblox.com/games/119832175887449/FightTestV2-TestBranch

@dense spade press tab bro

[dense spade]

mobile

[noble sonnet]

rip

sro no mobil; yet

@sullen jay press tab bro

[stark parrot]

yo

does this look like its AI generated

local Players = game:GetService("Players")

local player = Players.LocalPlayer
local playerGui = player:WaitForChild("PlayerGui")

local guiOne = playerGui:WaitForChild("one")
local guiTwo = playerGui:WaitForChild("two")

local openButton = guiOne:FindFirstChild("OpenButton", true) 
local closeButton = guiTwo:FindFirstChild("CloseButton", true)

guiOne.Enabled = true
guiTwo.Enabled = false

local function onOpenClicked()
    if guiTwo then
        guiTwo.Enabled = true
    end
end

local function onCloseClicked()
    if guiTwo then
        guiTwo.Enabled = false
    end
end

if openButton and openButton:IsA("GuiButton") then
    openButton.MouseButton1Click:Connect(onOpenClicked)
else
    warn("no button in GUI 'one'.")
end

if closeButton and closeButton:IsA("GuiButton") then
    closeButton.MouseButton1Click:Connect(onCloseClicked)
else
    
    if guiTwo:FindFirstChildOfClass("Frame") then
        local mainFrame = guiTwo:FindFirstChildOfClass("Frame")
        
    end
    warn("no close button in GUI 'two'.")
end

my manager usually hires the scripters but hes taking a vacation...

[versed arch]

yup...

ai..

[stark parrot]

ok ty

too many "scripters" nowadays

[vast finch]

can someone help me fix a simple script for 50 robux

[inland dragon]

show script

[versed arch]

true

[vast finch]

alr one sec

[versed arch]

people usually use AI mostly because they haven't a clue on what scripting is

[stark parrot]

ill js postpone the project until my main scripter is back from vacation, 1 week aint that deep

[inland dragon]

this isnt ai

[stark parrot]

other guy said it is

[inland dragon]

how so?

[stark parrot]

idk if i knew i wouldnt have asked

😭

@versed arch whys it ai

[versed arch]

why would he put a boolean in FindFirstChild?

[vast finch]

@inland dragon

Idk why its not being found

[stark parrot]

ill wait for another scripter to respond to you cuz idk what that means 👍

[stark parrot]

@inland dragon

[inland dragon]

Findfirstchild is finding the child in the respective parent
Thats just finding the frame/button or any UI element in the parent guiTWO thats called "CloseButton"

[vast finch]

@inland dragon know how to fix it?

[inland dragon]

Send the script

[vast finch]

alr

[dry sleet]

Does anyone know to how to extract scripts from a rxbl file and put them into a rojo project?

[versed arch]

why is it recursive, though?

[dry sleet]

I sort of managed to, but not well

[versed arch]

i know what the function does, but why would it be recursive?

[vast finch]

@inland dragon

[inland dragon]

Perhaps the script was made 2 parents before the element or the script moves around? That is quite dumb, and if it was ai it wouldnt put it as recursive

I understand your point though

[versed arch]

actually

[inland dragon]

Whenever im debugging with firstchild i usually put it as recursive and even if that wasnt the problem, i dont change it if its a high-level script

[versed arch]

why are there functions onOpenClicked and onCloseClicked

you can just do guiTwo.Enabled = not guiTwo.Enabled

and it doesn't even have to be a function too

[inland dragon]

Yeah but they didnt use the functions either way
It looks like the person who made it didnt send the full code and also thats a big sign its not ai
Ai like chatgpt or claude would not make two functions, they would do the fix that you said

[hollow prairie]

yall why i cant send pics/
?

[vast finch]

@inland dragon do yk whats wrong with the scripts?

[inland dragon]

Looking at it give me a second

[vast finch]

bet

[vast finch]

maybe a bug or need a certain lvl

[hollow prairie]

bro i need someone to help me with very simple code

[versed arch]

so the guy who wrote it doesn't know what he is writing

[inland dragon]

Basically yeah

Or they're just someone who hasnt seen that fix before/is js starting to code

[inland dragon]

Its not a fix ill tell u that in a second the fix but the mouse.enter and mouse.leave is very buggy and you should use a third party module instead

[hollow prairie]

yall why when i take my tool its on the ground? its anchored

[versed arch]

tools mustn't be anchored

[inland dragon]

For the first picture, i need the full code of it

[vast finch]

alr ill dm can you help me fix it tho if its not a bug or how to use the third partij module

[vast finch]

dming or here

[inland dragon]

No

Search it up yourself

[vast finch]

bru

[inland dragon]

The code is ai

I dont like when people use ai to code

Learn yourself it will be much better and efficent

[hollow prairie]

bro its still on the ground

[inland dragon]

Does it have a handle?

[inland dragon]

Here

[inland dragon]

Rename the configuration

To something else

[vast finch]

I tried scripting 2 times its to hard

for like 2 weeks

[vast finch]

wdym

[inland dragon]

Why is it too hard

[versed arch]

like HandleConfig

[inland dragon]

Yes

[vast finch]

im a builder

and was a animator

[inland dragon]

Roblox studio may be confusing the handle with the configuration

[vast finch]

scripting is just not my thing

I watched vids

of tutorials etc

[hollow prairie]

ye it works, thanks guys

[vast finch]

did lua

but just wasnt for me

[inland dragon]

Watch brawl dev i think his name was

[vast finch]

I did

but didnt rlly help

[inland dragon]

While your watching you need to do the same thing in roblox

[vast finch]

I did that

[inland dragon]

Yeah it takes practice

[versed arch]

yeah, great guy, great videos

[inland dragon]

Its not a instant thing

[vast finch]

Ik

I did it for 2 weeks

just didnt like it

[versed arch]

learned my scripting from him

[inland dragon]

Like if you wanna get jacked it wont take you a week or two

[vast finch]

I dont got the patience while scripting

[versed arch]

make tiny projects

[vast finch]

I also did that

rain etc

[versed arch]

ex. a tool that changes color every click

[vast finch]

Also did that

its just not my thing

but why a module script?

@inland dragon

what was that again

[versed arch]

what part of it is confusing to you? is it the syntax or just in general the coding aspect of it?

[vast finch]

just didnt like scripting the coding aspect

dont got the patience for it

I did gui, building, animating and a little vfx

[inland dragon]

Give me like 3 minutes doing smth btw

[versed arch]

well, coding takes some patience and attention more than other skills

[vast finch]

thats why it doesnt fit for me

[versed arch]

you have to learn to be patient, then

[vast finch]

@inland dragon alr ill wait in the mean time do I just remove the normal script and put everything in module script?

respond when you can

[versed arch]

it was also boring for me, but coding isn't meant to be as stimulating as playing games

i've learned it mostly by deducing each aspect of coding

for example, what does local do

what can variables do, what data types are there and how can i manipulate them

[inland dragon]

??? send a full screenshot of the code i siad

[vast finch]

this one?

[versed arch]

where will i put this variable, what are loops, if statements

[vast finch]

or the gui?

[vast finch]

did that did not like it

[versed arch]

he means all of the code that isn't functioning

like the code inside of the script

[vast finch]

like the code from the normal script or from local

[versed arch]

if you're up for it i could teach you some of it if you're interested

[inland dragon]

The first picture send it all

[vast finch]

this is the normal script full

[vast finch]

thank you but I dont need it

[inland dragon]

Other script

[vast finch]

here are the 2 local scripts

the first one printed the error

on line 27

is it hard?

[versed arch]

warn prints out a warning-style message if the condition is false, meaning that something before line 27 is already making errors

[vast finch]

idk whats wrong tho

[versed arch]

right, so, what is the real issue here? is the sound not playing?

[mellow lagoon]

Can you show the error?

[vast finch]

sound is not playing

[vast finch]

I rlly wanna fix this for my game

it worked fine before

idk why it changed

[versed arch]

show all of the errors

[vast finch]

thats the only one

wait

[inland dragon]

change line 8 and put to return workspace:FindFirstChild("RadioPart", true)

[vast finch]

upper thing doesnt matter

the door

[mellow lagoon]

Is radio part directly in workspace or is it in a folder or something

[vast finch]

You fixed it

thank you thank you

[inland dragon]

no problem

[lofty terrace]

So bro really is the goat

[vast finch]

smart guy

[mellow lagoon]

What’s the difference in having the true vs not having it?

[inland dragon]

When childs are nested findfirstchild wont check for it

Lemme show u smth rq

[mellow lagoon]

Oh ok

[vast finch]

So I got another question

[inland dragon]

Worksapce > Folder1 > Part
Workspace > Part

If u do it without the True, it will only check folder1, but not inside of it
If u do with true it will check inside

[vast finch]

why is the light doing this

[inland dragon]

Multiple reasons

[vast finch]

ah

not the script?

might be because in the script its saying to turn to a certain side I think

[mellow lagoon]

Is it unanchored

[vast finch]

its anchored

[inland dragon]

my eyes 😭

[vast finch]

is it that bad

[lofty terrace]

so this essentially lets you find any part in the workspace without having to type out the path?

[versed arch]

why is it changing the rotation on the x axis? why are there cframes if its just one part?

[inland dragon]

searches all descendants, once, so yeah practically

[vast finch]

[lofty terrace]

Very informative ty

[inland dragon]

Np and use roblox documentation for more information/help

[versed arch]

THIS!!!

[vast finch]

I find it not very useful

[mellow lagoon]

Same

[lofty terrace]

bet

[vast finch]

so uh anyone knows how to fix the switch

[lofty terrace]

Yesterday decided to learn coding at night for funsies so here we are

[vast finch]

[versed arch]

try putting the math.rad(30) into the Z axis instead

or actually check what axis the part has

[vast finch]

how do I do that

[inland dragon]

thats good u can do so much with coding

[lofty terrace]

Ikr, plus the happiness I feel when I actually understand wtf I am looking at

[vast finch]

when you get it it feels amazing

when you dont it feels like shit

[versed arch]

just... select it, ctrl x and then paste it in the third number

[lofty terrace]

Not rlly, bc that means you’ll learn smth

[lofty terrace]

My main goal really is to learn how to optimize code

[mellow lagoon]

You could also rotate it in the workspace to where to want it then copy that and just set it to that rotation when it activates

Example:oncframe = (0,0,30)

I don’t actually know if this would work I’m on phone rn so I can’t test

[versed arch]

offCframe * CFrame.Angles(0, 0, math.rad(30))

[vast finch]

which line

[lofty terrace]

the one where 30 is in x

[mellow lagoon]

Wouldn’t it be oncrframe

[versed arch]

😔

[inland dragon]

Become a low end developer then

[vast finch]

doesnt work

[lofty terrace]

deving for a hobby

if I ever go into something with big ambitions, I burn out before I even get there

[versed arch]

put the math function in the middle then

[vast finch]

um how

[inland dragon]

Why

[lavish sphinx]

Start with small projects

[mellow lagoon]

I made a easy to use system where you just call a function add a few variables and it will show a notification onscreen with formatting and will move up when other notifications get added would this be actually usefull for devs

[lofty terrace]

Too much to grasp I guess

You feel unaccomplished like 99% of the time instead of being happy with what you did for the day

[inland dragon]

start with easy stuff

[lofty terrace]

yep

[lavish sphinx]

What do you know?

[versed arch]

okay do you know how to use a pc

[vast finch]

yes

[versed arch]

ctrl x and paste it in the middle number

[lofty terrace]

Still have a lot a lot to learn

ngl popped in just to see who hangs out here

[lavish sphinx]

Me too

[lofty terrace]

hidden devs doesn’t get great publicity in some places

but all I see are helpful and chill people

[drifting vault]

Is anyone able to make a system where when a player joins my game get a base and then make another system where they can place brinrots on one part then a certain amount of money is desplayed on another part and only the owner can collect the cash by walking on the second part and it gets added to there current cash amount?

[weak radish]

for how much

[drifting vault]

depends if it works

[weak radish]

If it works, how much 🥀

who's paying for a system that doesn't work

[exotic phoenix]

and a ton of children asking for handouts

If you wanna save your time learn with AI

asking questions here is worth it if u wanna interact with others and maybe make some connections

but theres better servers

[fleet carbon]

Gong Service 😂

[ruby kite]

boi how dare u disrespec my tuff hd 💀💀💀💀😤😤

[pliant stump]

Where can I I learn coding ? 🙃

[ruby kite]

API documentation - experimentation

DevForum searches will also help you alot

[silk dune]

AI

[silk dune]

Ai is the best tool actually to learn fast and clean coding

[versed arch]

i've already explained it to him in dev discussion

[ruby kite]

I guess that's why my roblox assistant recommends me this:

local b = workspace.Part2 
local c = workspace.Part3 
...```

nahh but I do remember this

[silk dune]

Bro, you shouldn't learn it with roblox assistant but with Claude or Z.ai

[ruby kite]

I'm not learning it with Roblox assistant

That's code recommendation lol

Neither have I learnt with AI a lot when I first started programming

[icy heron]

sure bro give me 7 robux tho

[silk dune]

I have and i'm really good right now in 8 months

[ruby kite]

Claude is sometimes a bit of janky coming to heavy logic and physics. But it's good.

[versed arch]

AI is meh for me, it's a bit unreliable, I recommend reading the documentation on what you need

[ruby kite]

Same with other AIs, they're not that good in heavy physics dealing -

[silk dune]

Claude is good for beginners and Z.ai is for advances ones

[ruby kite]

True, tbh...

[silk dune]

That's yall opinion, but have you tried it before calling this cause maybe you tried a bad one

[ruby kite]

Wdym

[drifting vault]

sure lol

[silk dune]

Like have you tried some AI, ask them some questions about programming

[ruby kite]

I did. But, we're here about learning by artificial intelligence. It is good for beginners, but for advanced developers they'd rather use it to ease their time. Sometimes I've experienced this - AI does make some bloat code or code that doesn't make sense for yourself

[drifting vault]

Is anyone looking to invest in a game?

[silk dune]

Depends on how you prompt too, me i alaways make a prompt before a chat like "Transform you in a senior roblox dev with 15 years experience" and it changes really how it code

[silk dune]

But are you a experienced programmer?

[ruby kite]

Yep

[silk dune]

for how much years have you been coding

[alpine blaze]

Any experienced scripter I can ask for something?

[ruby kite]

Depends. I don't know but probably it has been 6 years+

[silk dune]

ye

[alpine blaze]

DMs

[silk dune]

So you've been coding since 9 years old wow

[ruby kite]

Lol 😭

[silk dune]

Serious project? Payment?

[silk dune]

Bro 15 - 6 equals 9

[ruby kite]

It's not an accurate data it could be anywhere but I started around 2019-2020

[alpine blaze]

not about that

But close to

[ruby kite]

Ye

[alpine blaze]

Need to decide something

Just check dms

[silk dune]

and how much are you willing to give

[alpine blaze]

bro 😭

[versed arch]

anything complex will make the AI shit itself and return the shit instead

[alpine blaze]

Check dms

It’s not about hiring u

[ruby kite]

it does say you need debug info, but when you provide, it fixes, however that stuff still breaks on your side

this is a massive issue for beginners tbh

[versed arch]

well yeah, it's bad at debugging

[ruby kite]

Requires you like 30+ replies to get a correct answer

[versed arch]

it's why i don't use it to code

[ruby kite]

If you don't have a prompt

[ruby kite]

same, it can't build the hierarchy we require

[silk dune]

Neither, I but IA is really good for dumb errors and errors in overall

[bleak hornet]

привет артурр

[fringe urchin]

yall is it ok to try and learn davinci with lua at once?
or like will i js not understand both

[shy cipher]

did you try telling it "don't make mistakes"

[shy cipher]

not a good idea, don't rush it

[fringe urchin]

which one u think is easier or i should learn first?

[shy cipher]

I checked out da vinci a while ago, looked like I entered iron man's suit or some shit. the interface was not intuitive at all, I had to actively look for stuff that I thought should already be in front of me (and I usually did not find it). I thought it was unnecessarily complex, and I didn't have any fun not gonna lie. but I do have a scripting background, and you feel galaxy brain when you finally start to understand stuff, and that is understandably entertaining. scripting does feel like a journey, and I guess it is more eventful. I'd say you learn lua (and luau if game developer) first

[fringe urchin]

im so bad at scripting that i thought lua and luau r the same thing lol

[shy cipher]

that's usual, I was about to give up at parameters. it's just standard procedure to me dees days

[fringe urchin]

how do i learn luau?
like what tutorial
someone gave me one but he said he didnt try it out and i got bored from the first video tbf

[shy cipher]

yeah roblox scripting videos are really boring and your attention falls off quick, you should focus more on material that has you actively doing the scripting, not watching someone else do it

that leads to something called tutorial hell, when you can't make your own systems but only what you see on youtube

[fringe urchin]

i found a python interactive course i kinda liked it but i dont think there is anything similair for roblox

it gives u a lesson and u do the rest

[shy cipher]

boot.dev?

[fringe urchin]

idk i dont think so

lemme check the name rq

can i send links here?

[shy cipher]

probably not

[fringe urchin]

its called programming 25 mooc or smthn like that

[shy cipher]

hold on my message got moderated for some reason

I'll resend it with better wording I guesss

[fringe urchin]

ok

[shy cipher]

I honestly don't even know what's wrong with it ngl

[fringe urchin]

lol i mean u can send it in dms or in a screenshot maybe

[shy cipher]

oh right screenshot

it's not violating any rules so it should be OK

[fringe urchin]

hopefully lol

[shy cipher]

this is what I meant to say

[fringe urchin]

whyd this get moderated lol

[shy cipher]

not one clue

[earnest bridge]

Too much truth

[fringe urchin]

hmm but what good resources r there?

[shy cipher]

it's kind of a badlands gonna be honest

[fringe urchin]

whats the resource u used?

[orchid arch]

h

[shy cipher]

you can find genuinely helpful resources on devforum, they can explain a lot of "niche" stuff, but sometimes not fully. now this might sound counterproductive, but AI is a good tool for learning, I'm not saying you should use it for vibe coding. big emphasis on learning. it's a bit challenging to find some answers for more personal or detailed questions, I remember being stuck trying to figure out how to get the direction between two vectors. I knew that there had to be a subtraction operation, but I didn't really know the order because no one taught me that. AI helped me there, and it also taught me stuff that I would have really needed to search (like how the datamodel works on a detailed level). I learned my "basic" scripting from youtube, which was pretty insufferable. I could only do what they taught me, not what I wanted to do. I didn't know stuff that should be considered basic knowledge, like knowing that strings are immutable. I learned the more complex stuff from reading books on programming (well I've only ever read 1 in-depth), used devforum and AI for the more set-in-roblox stuff

[fringe urchin]

what youtuber did u learn from

cuzz devforums r for like more specific stuff i think

[elfin timber]

BRAWLDEV

[fringe urchin]

hes the guy i got bored from from the first vid lol

his objectives seem like idk dumb or very easy

[pure nebula]

Hey, you should learn from Documentation.

[wooden harbor]

Please stop giving stupid advices.

[fringe urchin]

idk i have a problem with docs i cant learn from them i need a course or someone to direct me and shi

[wooden harbor]

Documentation are not tutorials. They are reference material

[pure nebula]

It's not stupid it's true.

[pure nebula]

Reference material helps you learn.

[wooden harbor]

Not in a beginner friendly way.

[shy cipher]

started off with devking, found his tutorials hard to follow. initially thought the problem was with me for not being able to understandw what he said, he had me completely lost with his "remote events" video where everything just looked like magic because I wanted to know why it worked and not that it "just worked". then I gave up for a few months, tried again but this time I watched brawldev. had a better run with him, his videos are "detailed". but not quite. they're very long and require a decent amount of attention, brawldev usually doesn't give enough or just doesn't give anything for you to do after you watch his videos too. I think they're dragged on a lot, they're too long. could easily be 1/4th of the length considering they're not very information dense anyway. I got more burned out watching videos than actually scripting, which is a bad thing. I still think reading is better (which includes using AI to explain stuff, devforum, books, random blogs, etc)

[sinful badge]

learn the fundamentals (i've heard brawldev is good ?) and then try stuff out with the documentation by your side for reference

[wooden harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-writing-a-book-long-text-gif-12348665

[pure nebula]

I had learnt from it when I was a beginner.

[fringe urchin]

brawldev bored me out from the first vid

[wooden harbor]

You probably knew the programming fundamentals before

[fringe urchin]

uh everyone recommends him tho

[pure nebula]

C's syntax is quite different.

[fringe urchin]

idk maybe the first vid is js that boring

[fringe urchin]

i mean ig ill rewatch him

[wooden harbor]

Lil bro, its the concept that matters not the syntax. PF is same for almost all languages.

[pure nebula]

The syntax matters when learning a programming language.

[sinful badge]

you really just have to learn the fundamentals and then its a neverending loop of trying stuff out, getting stuck, and then finding the solution

[wooden harbor]

You're deviating from the point we were arguing about

[pure nebula]

?

How so?

[shy cipher]

everyone has a bit of bias. I'm standing strong with just reading. youtube is good, but it shouldn't be your main source of knowledge as most knowledge there is just surface-level (superficial) that most textual sources get more in-depth into. but learning programming isn't all about learning the language, it's also learning some hardware level concepts and definitions of stuff (like the singleton design in OOP). I think youtube videos are best at that, text references are hard to follow in that category unless you already have a solid programming background (which you don't). I'd recommend youtubers like fireship in this case

[pure nebula]

We're talking about learning Luau.

[wooden harbor]

#code-discussion message
That's irrelevant

[pure nebula]

Learning Luau includes learning its syntax.

[shy cipher]

I mean that's technically true

[wooden harbor]

Its not hard, alot easier when you understand the PF concepts.

[fringe urchin]

btw i watched brawldev beginners playlist like a few months ago but i wasnt sure what to do after so like what do i do after it do i watch the advanced playlist or do i idk do smthn

[pure nebula]

Luau's syntax is designed for children; it shouldn't be hard. PF?

[fringe urchin]

i usually quit after i finish the tutorials for some reason lol

[wooden harbor]

Its not the "syntax" thats designed for children. Its the Roblox Engine API that abstracts everything.

[lavish plinth]

these guys probably are kids

idk whats going on tho

[shy cipher]

those videos do cover the topics but don't give you any sort of task to cement the knowledge. the best way is to make what you want to make (while also being realistic with it). if you're not having any sort of fun while doing it, you're gonna be stuck in the water for a long, long time. personally, the way I got out of this was to challenge myself to make an admin system (I liked admin games back in 2017, back when admin abuse was still up). and I did enjoy it, had fun with friends using the system even if the code was insanely spaghetti and not maintainable

[fringe urchin]

i mean im learning coding because im very bored
i have a game idea but im pretty sure it requires good like knowledge
i also wanna do commisions sometime in the future if i continue

[lavish plinth]

i went from youtube > devforum/roblox docs > actual programming techniques/theories

[versed arch]

as with anything, start off with shit and after getting enough experience and time you'll be better

[lavish plinth]

yaaa

[pure nebula]

The syntax is quite simple though. You've got a point with the API as well.

[pure nebula]

?

[lavish plinth]

yea idk what was going on didnt erad up

sorry for rage baiting

[radiant cargo]

whats a good way to make a grab system for 2 players so it doesnt have networking issues

[pure nebula]

Rage bait?

[fringe urchin]

what did u like focus on in the devoforums and docs like what did u learn?

[radiant cargo]

body pos / gyro ^

[wooden harbor]

so is the syntax of C, C++, C#, Java, Rust, Zig, JS/TS,

once you know what you're doing everything is easy.

[pure nebula]

Yes.

[lost gulch]

Syntax matters 🤣

[pure nebula]

I have't programmed proficiently in Java, Rust or Zig.

[lavish plinth]

just whatever i needed at the time to be honest

i still look at the docs

and devforum

[lost gulch]

Yeah

[lavish plinth]

i looked at a lot of open resourced modules

[shy cipher]

don't try commission scripting early, and even if it feels like you're ready, don't take your word for it. I tried it. I regret it, I felt so burned out. stuff that looks straightforward ends up being a gap in your learning that you didn't really learn, and your starting commissions probably aren't paying good either. think about what you can put together with your knowledge, and make it if you think it's genuinely cool. most luau knowledge can carry over to lua, and I for the first time used it to make a calculator for my favourite game project lazarus so I can make an optimal strategy (with counters for stuff like "one-shot till round x"). this is the best way to learn coding, bored or not

[lost gulch]

and you experiment in studio for hours

[lavish plinth]

that helped me learn a lot

[versed arch]

Syntax is the program's rules, what one really needs to learn is basic stuff about programming in general, such as if statements, loops, variables and data types

[lost gulch]

You look at the devforms then you experiment in studio

That’s how you learn man

[wooden harbor]

Then i bet 100% you'll find rust very difficult because it eliminates the traditional buggy concepts like OOP, inheritance, insecure referencing with Traits, Borrow checker, Ownership etc.

[lost gulch]

You gotta execute in order to learn

[fringe urchin]

would learning luau like idk help me with learning python?
cuz i got college in like a year and ppl told me to start learning early cuz cs is hard or smthn

[pure nebula]

That's quite a drastic difference.

[rich token]

What type of payment methods do people use for comissions? Paypal crypto and what else?

[lavish plinth]

definitely

[rich token]

Crypto creates a mess with taxes

[versed arch]

learn the basics, that is all you really need for a foundation

[versed arch]

shitcoin

[wooden harbor]

Yea thats what im trying to say. If you got the fundamentals right, OOP, Data structure will be easy. And if you got them right, coding will be easy in almost every language

[shy cipher]

they usually pay in robux, but you should aim for group fund payment as they're painless, instant and taxless. gamepass payments are insufferable. the client can be on any platform if USD is the case really, so it's not just paypal.

[rich token]

If you want to get paid in USD then what other options do they use except for PayPal and Crypto?

[fringe urchin]

robux?
i feel like paypal would be better cuz what r ppl supposed to do with robux

[lavish plinth]

it can't be devexed though , right ? i've been wondering this

[wooden harbor]

Crypto if your country doesnt have Paypal, else just use paypal.

[rich token]

Paypal is infamous for freezing your account and stealing your money

[lavish plinth]

i can devex my robux but i don't know if the person i pay can devex it since they would have just joined the group for a commission

[fringe urchin]

i dont got a bank account anyways i need to be 18+ to get one and im 16 lol

[wooden harbor]

Then use Crypto SOL/USDC/USDT , Solana blockchain have extremely low tx fee.

[rich token]

But when you sell your crypto and if it is in large amounts like thousands of dollars banks ask for payment source and if you say "freelance work" they ask for receipts and stuff for proof that the income you recieved in crypto was legitimate and roblox comissions dont provide that

which creates a lot of problems

[wooden harbor]

Obviously. Money laundering happens 24/7. If you dont have the proof, then you probably are getting black money from illegal business/way.

[shy cipher]

lua and python are pretty similar in syntax, with some differences here and there (like how indents are an active part of code blocks, which is not the case in lua). the similarities you'll see are stuff like while loops and for loops (which functionally are virtually the same in both languages). and having a coding background anywhere definitely has an impact on learning other languages, especially if both languages in question are multi-paradigm (which basically means they're likely to be similar in the "flow", which makes learning the other language much faster because it feels "familiar"). learning luau does help with python, both languages have the same concepts executed with nuances and differences. and learning python helps with learning luau (to some extent)

[rich token]

How would you prove to them that the crypto you recieved was from roblox comissions though

to the banks

[fringe urchin]

cool cool
ig ill watch the second video hopefully it gets better
thanks for ur help

[wooden harbor]

I don't think you would get flagged for tiny commissions. But their are many ways of getting your crypto into fiat

[rich token]

I mean if you are a competent scripter and do big amount comissions then it can cause problems withdrawing thousands of dollars worth of crypto into your bank

[rich token]

what are other ways to get crypto into fiat?

[wooden harbor]

It really depends on where you live. In my country banks usually do not ask about Foreign Remittance

[rich token]

u are from dubai?

[lost gulch]

Yeah I guess learning Lua is helpful but you gotta experiment as well manage data etc

[shy cipher]

no problem, you can ask me if you have any problems with luau (my python language is very basic, just enough for me to talk about it). also I should tell you that lua/luau and python are multi-paradigm, but that shouldn't let you confuse some concepts. like when I was first learning basics of C, I didn't know why arrays and sets and whatever were not just called "tables" like in lua. then I learned that lua simplified those datatypes into one called a table. try to fact check stuff

[lost gulch]

Don’t watch videos that’s 2 hours long and then call it a day that’s called tutorial he’ll

[rich token]

Paypal is horrible for recieving payments sometimes they put your money on "Hold" for 90+ days one guy got 20k usd frozen in his paypal account and then his account was deleted lmao

[lost gulch]

You gotta take action and experiment stuff in studio

[lost gulch]

What about Wise?

[rich token]

never heard of it

[rich token]

do people use it for comissions on roblox?

[lost gulch]

Yes

It’s currently the best atm

[wooden harbor]

Where do you live?

[lost gulch]

Yes very much

[rich token]

A 3rd world shit hole lol

[wooden harbor]

Name the country

[shy cipher]

what I'm getting at here is that languages differ in how they execute stuff, which can sometimes affect how your code actually works

[rich token]

I will research this

thanks

[lost gulch]

kk np

What country are you in tho don’t say that about your country dude

people love there country

[weak radish]

How much did they pay you to advertise it

[fringe urchin]

thanks thanks

[lost gulch]

???

I’m just a normal guy man

[fringe urchin]

uhh i dont understand all that
i mean hopefully i will know what ur talking about once i finish the videos

[rich token]

there are lot of racists on discord dude i would rather not say

[wooden harbor]

Do you care about online racism or getting payment?

[shy cipher]

from my experience, the videos don't teach you remotely enough about "fancy programming english" and you have to go out of your way to actually learn what they're saying after some embarassing moments, well at least that's what happened to me

[fringe urchin]

everyone gonna forget after 10 minutes its ok

[wooden harbor]

Fyi, I'm from Pakistan.

[rich token]

im from india

[shy cipher]

oi same

[lost gulch]

Right now just do some stuff in studio and watch little bit videos on scopes, variables, for loops, while loops, tables, metatables etc etc etc

and functions

I forgot about that

[wooden harbor]

🤝

[rich token]

crypto is not a legal tender in Pakistan

[wooden harbor]

Doesn't matter

[fringe urchin]

u think claude is a good source?
alot of ppl hate on ai but when i tried learning python it explained some stuff that i didnt understand pretty well

[lost gulch]

Nice bro I hope you will be successful in your country

[wooden harbor]

P2P exists on crypto exchange. And it is being legalized now.

[surreal oriole]

Can somebody please explain to me how I can setup visual studio with roblox studio. and use claude or codex on top of that. Are there recommended tools? Should I use rojo for visual studio code integration?

[fringe urchin]

i think i know some of them i tried learning multiple languages i js always get bored

[rich token]

But they will ask where you recieved that crypto from and what was the source and if u cant provide receipts and stuff it will be a problem

[wooden harbor]

Visual Studio!? or VSCode?

[rich token]

Thanks bro u too

[lost gulch]

That’s where the laziness comes from you gotta be Self disciplined and consistent man. Thats how you will win man

you gotta work harder and smarter

[surreal oriole]

vscode, sorry 😛

[wooden harbor]

They won't ask you. FBR will ask you. You can just claim to be freelancer and thats it. Better yet get a Freelancer bank account

[lost gulch]

Best advice I could give you

[fringe urchin]

ye i can never get past it even when i have goals lol
hopefully i can idk learn this time

[lost gulch]

Is to work in the early mornings starting from 5 am or 4 am

[wooden harbor]

You just have to install an extension that will run a server to sync your files with roblox studio

[lost gulch]

that’s where there is no disturbing stuff in the background

Your Brain is sharp and focused at those peaceful mornings

[surreal oriole]

Alright, what extension do you recommend? Rojo?

[wooden harbor]

yes

[lost gulch]

Learn and work from 5 am all the way to your preference best thing you can do end work at 12 or 2-3 pm

[shy cipher]

AI is generally ruining the world but it is beneficial for programmers if they're using it to learn. it has basically gone through every single stack overflow post, and every mainstream programming book. it knows virtually all concepts that aren't fairly new. however, its efficiency at using that knowledge to make stuff is still not very good (for example chatgpt has a tendency to overcomplicate stuff that could be very simple into a spaghetti monster, which puts its place as a doodoo programmer but as socrates in programming knowledge). leverage this ability of the AI to your own advantage, use it as a teacher, which is quite effective if you prompt it right (so it's not jus stating facts but teaching it).

haven't tried claude though I've always used sir gpt

[lost gulch]

Claude is really good

Better than gpt

[surreal oriole]

Ok thank you, and then I should be able to integrate the codex/claude mcp server with the vscode? Or should I integrate it directly into studio? I saw there is a new feature

[icy heron]

it also loves to leak memory 🙏😭

not reallt a issue depending on scope but eh

[rich token]

Dude.. when u file income tax for crypto and you claim you are a freelancer and you recieved crypto for doing freelancing work they will ask you for proof like a contract, a receipt or something. They want to know why you are receiving crypto from a bunch of foreign crypto wallets

and for roblox comissions u dont get receipt or any proof

how will u prove it

[wooden harbor]

vscode is better

[shy cipher]

is it good for learning though? I've heard it's much better at programming but not the other way around

[icy heron]

your gonna lose your mind when I tell you there's a sales of goods tab in the transactions menu

[versed arch]

i see AI as just another distraction, the same way modern tech is also mostly just distractions that don't last long and end up in the dump having served no real value because they're built to break after a certain point

[shy cipher]

but you gotta admit it has some merit to it other than taking all our water and electricity

[surreal oriole]

Ok, thank you!

[lost gulch]

Yes don’t use gpt for learning Claude is really the boss as of right now I like it very much

[fringe urchin]

chatgpt became very dumb these last few months
its becoming dumber with every update for some reason

[rich token]

for crypto?

[versed arch]

i know, but it could've been done in a better way

[shy cipher]

our taxpayer dollars going into it btw

[icy heron]

Oh wait your talking about crypto lmao

[fringe urchin]

i dont pay taxes its ok

[lost gulch]

I recommend you to learn the programming language and experiment it on then you can use Claude for assistance so you can know if the code is right or sloppy

[icy heron]

assuming everyone is american smh

[shy cipher]

you can't become a billionaire if you're not evil and only billionaires can harness this tech, so I don't even know if it's possible to do it in a better way

[shy cipher]

(im not american)

[terse temple]

no it hasnt

[fringe urchin]

it has

[icy heron]

💀

[terse temple]

how much of an AI user are you

[wooden harbor]

Register with PSEB

[shy cipher]

ok AMERICAN taxpayer dollars going into it

[terse temple]

to tell if an AI can degrade or not

in quality

[shy cipher]

there for the gentleman I corrected myself

[fringe urchin]

i use it from time to time

[icy heron]

I haven't wrote a single line of code since '09

[icy heron]

thank you sir bedridden banan

[rich token]

What is that

[icy heron]

I am of the utmost gratitude

[fringe urchin]

every week or so
when im too lazy to search

[terse temple]

🥹

[fringe urchin]

everyone should start vibecoding and stop coding ngl

[versed arch]

corporate enshittification of the world and it's happening globally... there are so many things nowadays that can be improved, but nobody actually looks into the past for anything, even though sometimes, if not most of the time it provides answers to issues that existed a very long time ago

[icy heron]

Yes stop this digislop

[shy cipher]

AI has probably already read every devforum post you'd need, so using it to get this knowledge isn't a bad thing if you're learning and not skidding 🤢

[wooden harbor]

https://portal.techdestination.com/auth/register

[icy heron]

not the new ones but you can always ask it to just fetch lol

it's quite good at that

[fringe urchin]

yes but not chatgpt hes dumb

he literally couldnt answer a simple question

[shy cipher]

ya prolly only need the old ones though, but yeah that too

[wooden harbor]

And instead of crypto you can open a Freelancing Bank account which is far better and secure

[shy cipher]

I can generally find my way around it with better prompting, but it's overall I'd say it's not very pleasant but gets the learning job done

[icy heron]

gpt will answer 45 unrelated questions then give a extremely ambiguous answer

like vro

[shy cipher]

yeah my problem, need to poke it a bit to get what you want. is claude better at this?

[fringe urchin]

dude i asked him if i should drive or walk to a car wash thats 1km away and he argued for 10 minutes that i should walk
even when i told him that doesnt make any sense he didnt understand

i wasted like 10 liters or smth explaining it to him

[lost gulch]

I guess lol

[wooden harbor]

Use Cluade OPUS 4.6 with agentic env

[icy heron]

claude usually either gets it wrong so you have to clarify it or it actually gives multiple answers, but also it can actually admit it's wrong lmao unlike gpt which will say some random bs

[shy cipher]

oh it's doggy shit for ANY kind of advice, not just "overall", ANY kind of advice. its best to figure it out yourself or listen to a homeless man rant about his take

[fringe urchin]

homeless ppl r the best i always ask them for financial advice

[icy heron]

I could spend a hour telling gpt that yes, that function or method exists, or spend 20 seconds telling Claude lmao

[wooden harbor]

If AI gets an answer wrong it is always because of the lack of context awareness. Which is common when chatting and explaining to AI instead of it having access to the entire context / codebase / enviroment you're working on.

[shy cipher]

only thing I would say its good at is objective stuff that doesn't change like programming knowledge (the subjective part would be how you apply it I reckon, which gpt does horribly as usual)

[icy heron]

tell me your a vibe coder without telling me your a vibe coder

[waxen edge]

does anybody know how you can implement comments to get accepted as a luau programmer

[shy cipher]

we didn't even ask for a source but now I'll believe you

[icy heron]

What?

[wooden harbor]

Yes you must be talking about BS Benchmark.

[waxen edge]

like readability idk what they expect its impossible to get accepeted

[icy heron]

Holy fucking shit thank you

[icy heron]

catalogue every keyword

[grim rampart]

extra extra read all about it

[shy cipher]

you should explain how and why your code works, prove that you know what's going on. that's generally what they mean, by readability you should make it look prettier with comments that for example describe what a function does

[icy heron]

for --[[insert definition of the word 'for']] i --[[integer]].. etc

boom ez

[waxen edge]

yeah how do i make it look prettier with comments

[shy cipher]

I do --//heading// for headings which makes it look prettier but my last one got rejected because I had a comical amount of nested ifs (but that was last year I'm not such levels of chud anymore)

try something like that

[icy heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1173828778376573021/1411939001522192464/togif.gif

[shy cipher]

some people cover their headings with hashtags which takes a bit more work

[lucid hare]

comments are stupid

[shy cipher]

its dead code you can't expect it to be smart

[lucid hare]

it shouldve been written smart in the first place

[shy cipher]

100000ms latency gaming

[light fable]

I've making this game for 2 years rn

[lost gulch]

Interesting stuff you got there bro

That’s fire

[light fable]

this is nothing compared to new one

[rich token]

solo?

[light fable]

ye

[rich token]

u did gun model too or just script?

[light fable]

everything

[rich token]

dam

[shy cipher]

you got skill hope you safe and nothing suddenly happens to this bright mind

[rich token]

nice

[lost gulch]

solo dev

Bro is cooking

[shy cipher]

and he made the kitchen too

[light fable]

look at this new freelook i've added today

[rich token]

so when are u releasing it

[light fable]

released 0 players 🙁

[rich token]

can u send link

[light fable]

this is freelook kinda thingy

[lost gulch]

Yeah this is good I love that stuff

[light fable]

like what you are looking at is an upcoming update pretty much

[lost gulch]

camera manipulation is goated at most times as well

[rich token]

oh

[light fable]

not the camera the environment

ooops wrong channel

[lost gulch]

It’s ok

[light fable]

older engine

[shy cipher]

hello ubisoft??

[waxen edge]

Yo yall heard about janitor the open source module

[lost gulch]

I still gotta learn how Cframes really work. Since Cframe.Angels() involves trigonometry

[light fable]

cos mostly

[shy cipher]

Cframe.Angels() sounds like something everyone needs to learn

[lost gulch]

Yeah for sure

[wooden harbor]

To really learn CFrames, you have to look into Linear Algebra and the CFrame 4x4 matrix. How it works and how transitional 1x3 (x,y,z) along with 3x3 rotational matrix work together

[light fable]

here is a kinda great feature i mean for cqb a.k.a Close quarter battles

[shy cipher]

cframe has a 3x3 rotation thing and a 1x1 position translation thing if I'm not wrong

[wooden harbor]

how can you represent 3D space position with just a single numeric value.

[shy cipher]

thas what I was thinking

not gonna lie

[wooden harbor]

its 1x3 matrix in 4th column

4th row is identity

[shy cipher]

all brawldev told me was that it's some sorta frame and learning vector math left me with a very vague idea of how it applies to cframes

I'll look into it tomorrow

literally 2:30 AM why aren't you asleep yet

I'm gonna dip

[dusky relic]

When you aim don't make it push back

[vestal pumice]

First number times 10 million second number times 100 million 3rd number times 1 billion

[dusky relic]

Who needs help with CFrames?

I can point you in the right direction

[shy cipher]

we were discussing its mathematical concept (not really how it applies to roblox in a superficial way)

[wooden harbor]

like

CFrame =
| r00 r01 r02 x |
| r10 r11 r12 y |
| r20 r21 r22 z |
|   0   0   0 1 |

Position:
x y z

Rotation:
r00 r01 r02
r10 r11 r12
r20 r21 r22

| RightVector.x  UpVector.x   LookVector.x |
| RightVector.y  UpVector.y   LookVector.y |
| RightVector.z  UpVector.z   LookVector.z |

RightVector, UpVector, and LookVector form an orthonormal basis
because the 3×3 matrix is a rotation matrix.

[dusky relic]

Oh, don't....

CFrames are horrible from a math perspective

[shy cipher]

yeah I meant to say that rotation has the 3x3 thing and position has another one of those "group of 3 numbers" which I could only describe as 1x1 😢

[dusky relic]

Like dogshit, not hard

They should have just used quaternions

[shy cipher]

which is also dogshit

[vestal pumice]

Accident mb guys

[dusky relic]

No?

They're the best

[shy cipher]

well they do avoid gimbal lock and weird interpolation but I'm not gifted enough to really understand why they work

it's just magic number system for me rn

[wooden harbor]

That statement proves that you understand neither of them. Explain quaternions.

[dusky relic]

You're over complicating them

[dusky relic]

What is this dude saying, it's like saying explain matrices

[shy cipher]

I generally don't understand many of the concepts the guides bring up, I'm fresh into high school man 💔

[wooden harbor]

Explain it

[dusky relic]

@shy cipher do you understand 3D angular velocity works?

[shy cipher]

only know how it looks when you apply it

[dusky relic]

Like how it's represented in it's vector form

[shy cipher]

its for circular spinny stuff

yeah only the roblox scripting part of it

I made a sorta car once

[wooden harbor]

dodging the question now after BS take

[shy cipher]

some mathematician at the time called it a necessary evil too, nobody liked it until 3d graphics came around

I'm on the same boat

also I should be asleep right now

[dusky relic]

@shy cipher I'll explain it to you with a pen and rotate explanation. The unit vector of it points in a certain direction, and then based on the magnitude of the vector it dictates how fast it spins. So imagine "poking" the pen and then keeping it pointed in that direction and rotating around it

[shy cipher]

ain't the magnitude always 1 if its a unit vector

[dusky relic]

Why would I interact with a 14 yo..?

[shy cipher]

sounds racially motivated

[wooden harbor]

For your dmas, you get direct access to basis vectors with CFrame which is far better than having to compute it. Transformation becomes simple matrix multiplication instead of complex equations with inversion. Third they are used to represent rotation only

[dusky relic]

So we have our vector for eg, <30,12,5>, it points in the unit vector of that and spins as fast as it's magnitude

[wooden harbor]

Just admit you didnt understand the concept instead of attacking me personally. FYI learn to engage in arguement and understand logical fallacies

[dusky relic]

It spins clockwise by convention.

[dusky relic]

Stop yapping, it's past your bedtime bro

[shy cipher]

buh a unit vector preserves the direction by dividing the "original" vector by the magnitude which makes its magnitude after the normalisation operation equal to 1, which like I can guess why you'd need the direction, wouldn't the speed be constant at 1 every time why are we using unit vectors

[cyan lantern]

i still suck at raycasting

[shy cipher]

be quick vro I need to go sleepy 😔

[elfin timber]

My cortisol is trough the roof because i cant fix a simple bug and now im going to sleep. I bet when i wake up tmrw and look into it ill find it

So frustrating

[dusky relic]

We have our vector <30,10,5>, we take the unit of that to get the direction of the axis it spins around and then we take the original < 30,10,5> and take it's magnitude for how fast it spins

[wooden harbor]

Its better to educate yourself than pretending to be smart and using terms that you dont even understand

[shy cipher]

my problem is that the magnitude is always 1 so how do you change the speed

[hearty lion]

or you simply apply a force that makes it spin at <30, 10, 5>

[shy cipher]

well?

[dusky relic]

bro you don't even know what an isochoric process is

[shy cipher]

no offense

[dusky relic]

We're taking the magnitude of the original vector which isn't necessarily 1, are you asking does it rotate?

[wooden harbor]

That is secondary level garbage

[uncut marlin]

1 sided beef btw bro

[wooden harbor]

You must be around 14 yr old max

[dusky relic]

20 sadly

[shy cipher]

you originally said we'd use a unit vector, but unit vectors always have their magnitude as 1 so you can't really change the speed if the speed depends on the magnitude

[wooden harbor]

Other person too dumb to even answer me coming up with cheap sht

[dusky relic]

Oh I see the confusion, we take the unit vector of the angular velocity, and then we take the magnitude of the angular velocity

[shy cipher]

the angular velocity is also a vector I forgor

[dusky relic]

Yes it is

It's represented as a 3D vector

[shy cipher]

so you use the normalised angular velocity vector for direction and the magnitude of the "original" vector for speed?

[dusky relic]

Yes

[shy cipher]

it's technically another velocity right because velocity is speed + direction

I've seen it as speed * direction in scripts thoough

[dusky relic]

Wdym

[shy cipher]

we computed another velocity value right

[dusky relic]

We calculated the magnitude, which represents how many radians per second it'll rotate

If the magnitude of the vector is 10, it'll rotate 10 radians per second

[shy cipher]

don't see the correlation between magnitude (straight line) and a radian (180*pi/ some number I don't remember) which should be able to lie on a circumference

[dusky relic]

Angular velocity, the way we represent it, is merely a convention.

So basically

We have axis_of_rotation*radians_per_second = angular velocity

[shy cipher]

won't that give you the speed instead of the velocity? that should give you one whole number, not a full vector with a direction and magnitude

[dusky relic]

@shy cipher I think you'll understand exactly what I mean if you implement your own angular velocity

[wooden harbor]

you suck at explaining

[shy cipher]

I'm drowning

[dusky relic]

How much time do you have right now, if you have enough I can help you implement it

[dusky relic]

I'm trying to improve it

[dusky relic]

It'll take 5 minutes tops

[shy cipher]

I should be going now, dragged this on for too long. can I ping you later?

[dusky relic]

Dm me

[shy cipher]

technically I could stay for about 30 minutes but that wouldn't be very sportsmanlike considering I've gone past the 3AM mark

a schedule exists

[wooden harbor]

By definition the Angular Velocity (Vector) = magnitude (Scalar, Which represents rad per second means velocity) * unit_vector_of_axis_of_rotation (Vector)

For example if a ball is spinning along Y axis at 5 rad per second its unit vector would be (0,1,0) and magnitude 5

So

Angular Velocity Vector = (0,1,0) * 5 = (0,5,0)

[dusky relic]

can you join a vc really quickly?

[shy cipher]

my account's on limited access till 15th march because it thinks I'm a bot (I have proton vpn which randomly connects to a random country in the background whenever I have wifi), so it'd best be on an alt too which is just more time taken

[shy cipher]

I personally don't mind but my mic will be off

[dusky relic]

That's fine

private-2a

[shy cipher]

isn't the axis of rotation something like X or Y or Z instead of a full vector on its own

[shy cipher]

oh I gotchu let me get my headphones

[silent wasp]

Guys what could I make that would be good enough for me to get luau programmer role

[night hemlock]

Does anyone have information as to the exact processing power of BulkMoveTo() compared to that of MoveTo()?

https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/WorldRoot#BulkMoveTo

[olive steeple]

anyone have an idea of like how to make a npc glow circle like a cirle on the ground that glows and surrounds and npc

[void tusk]

you should benchmark it if you care enough

pretty sure Model:MoveTo uses BulkMoveTo though

the difference will be miniscule

[hearty lion]

no i'm pretty sure they're completely different

[lost gulch]

Is having a module loader in your game very good to have?

[wooden harbor]

like what it does?

Modules are executed once anyway

[lost gulch]

that’s not what it exactly does btw

I’m seeking knowledge from someone that already knows module loader

[tough belfry]

bulk too is more efficient for more parts but it does not repsect physics its a teleport

[lost gulch]

so don’t reply if you don’t know what it is

[wise turtle]

no

[lost gulch]

And you to

❤️

@light fable check DMs rq

[weary socket]

I actually like them alot, I think the #1 benefit is you can like, control which module initializes first. And every module has functions that you can use from other modules, which lets you build your game in a more structured way, so i would recommend anyone to atleast make their own module loader

But on my first point u can definately do that with just a normal muti script setup so idk 😛

if you like adding Service to every lua file to look cool, then you def gotta use a module loader

You cant be hanging out with the weird multi script architecture kids, right

[lost gulch]

cool stuff to know my friend

thanks

[steady wren]

guys as a beginner scripter is it ok to rely a lot on tutorials to do certain scripts?

[lost gulch]

sometimes depends

[wooden harbor]

its just a redundant step in my opinion. You can init script in any fashion. You only need module loader when you have 20+ scripts and requiring them gets messy. Only then it makes sense to have module table

[steady wren]

im watching a tutorial how to create a plot system

[weary socket]

this is true, but i think trying atleast to make your own module loader is fun, so i recommend it on the basis of having fun, and looking cool (lol)

[lost gulch]

kk

[static sage]

just use chatgpt

[wise turtle]

i don't see a world where a module loader is good

[lost gulch]

no

[steady wren]

i dont want to be gpt dependant

[static sage]

i learned w chatgpt and now ive gotten advanced

like it comes naturally

[lost gulch]

yup

[static sage]

if youre able to pick up on stuff

[lost gulch]

yeah you can follow along while you type along with them btw

[steady wren]

i just use gpt to help me with some logical struggles

[static sage]

it took me like a year to learn most stuff

[lost gulch]

and then after u understand whats going on

make another task to make another one on ur own

[steady wren]

yeah like i understand everything, but its rlly hard to create from nothing

[lost gulch]

it has to be different from the previous

[lost gulch]

hmm

[wooden harbor]

Centralized dependency access

instead of spamming require for each module

[static sage]

i recommend trying to make something completely out of your skill gap

[lost gulch]

yeah

[weary socket]

i think at the very least if you're typing it all out by yourself, then u can rremember it better than just CTRL + C'ing it, and ofc try to understand it too

[lost gulch]

module loaders are a life changer for organizing code etc

[steady wren]

i tried doing a hitbox system, it kinda worked but it was lame lol

[wise turtle]

this isn't very useful for me because i use auto-import so requiring a module is even faster than going through the centralized registry

[steady wren]

ok

[lost gulch]

you have the same principle in the game

[wise turtle]

also most module loaders do not cache the module its simply the load the modules and provide a single entry point

[lost gulch]

up to your preference as well

[wise turtle]

auto importing the module itself is faster than auto importing the loader and then getting a module

from a dev exp standpoint

[wooden harbor]

Sometimes you need deterministic init order

[weary socket]

nah dont use some random dudes' module loader, the only thing giving you organization benefits is just modules in general, i think its good to transition from just "Scripts + bindable events" to "Scripts with modules where each module can be built on top of other modules", thats all

[wise turtle]

you can get deterministic init order without a module loader