code-discussion

[latent hearth]

yeah that's fine

it's just an organization thing you can do whatever you want

it does affect caching though so having more screenguis is slightly better for performance because an update to a UI element would only re-render the screengui that contains it

never tested this fact though

[graceful delta]

After 3 years, I finally discovered how to make things react to music/audio

[dense mauve]

after 6 months i learned how to mske a frame visible

[graceful delta]

well forgive me for taking breaks and the Roblox dev forum not being straight forward, having every time you google it just being "How to add music to your game!!!!" and this server just insulting you when you genuionely need help and not knowing how to remake ChatGPT in Roblox

[slender olive]

guys help, my game logic and everything is ruined after trying multiple times.

[somber vault]

If you don't want to code noone is forcing you to. More money for us 🤷

[oak verge]

that match is absolutely terrible 💀 what the hell

[near pasture]

@oak verge

[oak verge]

?

[near pasture]

letd play

/chess

[runic quarry]

You mean just based on volume?

[oak verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361347086674821301/1365460517602332743/attachment.gif

[runic quarry]

Or like pitch too

[near pasture]

RAAAAAAA

[graceful delta]

yes

[somber vault]

Fyi everyone does this idk who u talking to btw. Also if you ask smth basic expect to be insulted

,I mean you can search it up on youtube or mess around in studio and figure it out. Coding fundamentals you can watch yt for or smth.

[runic quarry]

Was it just reading PlaybackLoudness

[oak verge]

https://lichess.org/mF9ycTu4

[somber vault]

If smth is too complicated start smaller or do it in parts. I think I saw smth earlier that said make systems not games.

But I thought you do that for games anyways idk.

e.g you make a gun system or a physics system and can use them for different game ideas.

[cloud brook]

which is better for safety:
(large table data)

1. json encode (over 100k str len) and store it into datastore
2. json encode (over 100k str len), then buffer.fromstring it, then json encode it again and store it into datastore

from my test, that method 2 reduced the string.len upto ~3-5x but both still have the same byte size.

[latent hearth]

does it have to be json

because you can make it much smaller without json

[cloud brook]

so just serialize it into buffer instead?

[latent hearth]

yeah there's open source libraries for that

if you know what the structure of the table looks like beforehand you can make it very small

[cloud brook]

it contains vectors, cframes, numbers, string, arrays

[latent hearth]

im trying to find something i made using this a year ago
https://github.com/kampfkarren/protoc-gen-luau

but seems like it's disappeared

[near pasture]

I ain't pulling up 😂 😂 😂

[latent hearth]

idk whats popular today but you can use this
https://data-oriented-house.github.io/Squash

[stuck vortex]

guys i spent like half a DAY just trying to comprehend the BASICS of CFrame, am I a bit slow to learn scripting TvT

[idle horizon]

hello guys i am making controls similar to the football game FIFA, and I was wondering, should I make a gameplay server sided, wich means if your network is weak its not gonna affect the game fundamentals but mostly just delay your actions, or else doing half gameplay server half gameplay client, taking the risk?

and I dont know much about powers, nor physics, Innitialy I am an UI Designer / frontend scripter

[somber vault]

depends are you ai 🤨

[somber vault]

I think you anwsered your own question

[latent hearth]

keep it server-authoritative

[marsh kelp]

what's the basics for you?
I'm 2 years in and still don't fully understand CFrames

[stuck vortex]

Wait what 😭 I’m not AI

[somber vault]

susssss

[thorn arch]

Cframes are not intuitive unless you are familiar with linear algebra

Which most people aren't

[marsh kelp]

• and if you hate math

[thorn arch]

^ this is why most people aren't familiar with linear algebra

[somber vault]

Algebra and knowing cframes are a position in 3d space are two different things. you can js say its math which usually you can solve using parts ingame.

Unless ur tryna make smth with math then idk chatgpt it or smth. 💀

[thorn arch]

Nah cframes are pure linear algebra

[somber vault]

x,y,z

[thorn arch]

They are 4x4 transformation matrices

[marsh kelp]

anything you do with CFrames that isn't moving an object or rotating it, is a bit more complicated

[somber vault]

give an example

I need bigger brain

[thorn arch]

Transforming from global to local coordinates

Or vice versa

There's functions for it but still

[somber vault]

bruh what does that even mean. Are they not the same location. You could just clone it as a client object or smth.

[thorn arch]

Me when local can mean things other than client:

[somber vault]

❎

I refus

lol

😔

[thorn arch]

Local coordinates as in, the same cframe but with respect to a different origin

[latent hearth]

this is a problem someone posed in 2022

[marsh kelp]

bro... I don't understand it to give examples
but the functions I see and don't understand are: Dot, Cross, CFrame.fromMatrix

easier functions: ToWorldSpace, ToObjectSpace
and example code that I don't fully understand:

local function getRotationBetween(u, v, axis)
    local dot, uxv = u:Dot(v), u:Cross(v)
    if dot < -0.99999 then
        return CFrame.fromAxisAngle(axis, math.pi)
    end

    return CFrame.new(0, 0, 0, uxv.x, uxv.y, uxv.z, 1 + dot)
end

local function getSurfaceCF(part, lnormal)
    local transition = getRotationBetween(
        Vector3.new(0,0,1),
        lnormal,
        Vector3.new(0,0,1)
    )
    
    return part.CFrame * transition * EXTRASPIN
end

[latent hearth]

it used to be pretty fun solving things like this but now mfs just use chatgpt

[stuck vortex]

My brain is frying itself look at this conversation 😭

High level ahh

[thorn arch]

Dot and cross are just vector operations

Cframe.fromMatrix let's you construct the 4x4 matrix yourself

[marsh kelp]

I hope I can use gpt 😭 it doesn't spit anything useful for me
even the code above I got it from EgoMoose on the devforum

[somber vault]

is that like animation with math or smth

[latent hearth]

my solution
||

local function projectOntoUnit(u: Vector3, v: Vector3)
    return u:Dot(v) * v
end

local newPoint = target - projectOntoUnit(target - intersection, normal)

||

[thorn arch]

No

[marsh kelp]

I get the theory, but not how to use it

[somber vault]

thats what programmers do lel

[latent hearth]

this one isnt hard but it does require a solid understanding of vectors

[somber vault]

is that not the same word

[latent hearth]

maybe

there are harder problems but id have to dig pretty deep to find them

[marsh kelp]

to position a part using the raycast normal rotation? ( can't explain )

[somber vault]

Im sure theres easier solutions idk

[thorn arch]

Newpoint = result.Normal * (target-result.Position):Dot(-result.Normal) + targetPosition

[latent hearth]

that looks about right

[thorn arch]

Vectors and Cframes are extremely easy if you know how they work

[copper apex]

Linear algebra is so useful

[thorn arch]

✅

[marsh kelp]

@somber vault
https://devforum.roblox.com/t/wall-stickgravity-controller/432598
https://devforum.roblox.com/t/how-to-think-about-quaternions/143295

[copper apex]

Especially in my physics classes i see it everywhere

[somber vault]

I mean I havent dived deep into it but I get the basics ig. It just seems like understanding the question and than getting what methods do like dot cause I haven't used that yet.

[marsh kelp]

please don’t say it’s easy 😭

[somber vault]

lol

[latent hearth]

this one isn't vectors but it was interesting (i think)

[somber vault]

everythings easy once you understand it 🤓 👆

[thorn arch]

I see Pascal's triangle

[latent hearth]

💀

[somber vault]

thats a forumla though they doesnt explain anything lmao

[copper apex]

I think if u just know the basics of linear algebra its pretty easy

[thorn arch]

Not sure what he's trynna do though

[somber vault]

Me when person know math, Ah yes the photosynthasis forumla

[runic quarry]

The mathematical phenomenon of photosynthesis

[somber vault]

lol

[latent hearth]

he just wants to distribute the squares evenly around the 0 point

[thorn arch]

In a circle?

[latent hearth]

no, just a line

[thorn arch]

Huh

What

[latent hearth]

like

[marsh kelp]

yea I'm trying to learn it online
I didn't learn shit from public school they just told us to remember x, y ... even the gravity formula I learned it afterword

[copper apex]

Theres tons of really good books online

Linear algebra done right is really good

[thorn arch]

Yeah they ain't teaching you linear algebra, that's curved arithmetic

🙏

[copper apex]

I thought linear algebra was taught in college

[thorn arch]

Ok i think i kinda get what they mean

[latent hearth]

he has a given number of squares to distribute evenly along this vertical line (i.e. the distance between any 2 squares must always be the same)

and the center of the distribution has to be at a given point, in this case it's 0

[thorn arch]

Given a number N

[thorn arch]

Oh that's just a basic mapping function

[latent hearth]

the answer:
||

y(i) = d * (i - (n - 1) / 2)

where:
i is the zero-based index of a square in the list, starting from the bottom
y(i) is the position of the center of a square at a given index i
d is the desired distance between the center of each square
n is the number of squares
||

[runic quarry]

Isn't linear algebra about matrices and stuff

[marsh kelp]

Ty, I'll give it a read

[copper apex]

Yes

[oak verge]

what grade

[thorn arch]

math.map(i,1,n,-n/2,n/2)*40

[copper apex]

They get really theoretical down the stretch though atleast for me, things like vector spaces, eigenvectors, eigenspaces, diagonalization

[oak verge]

what does this function do exactly?

[thorn arch]

It maps from 1 range to another

[marsh kelp]

idk mate 😭 I just know that there's stuff that I learned from the internet that I should've already known in mid-high school

[oak verge]

so it creates like a region of possible values per 1 input? or what

[thorn arch]

For example if you wanted to convert a range of 0 to 1 to a range of -2 to 3

[runic quarry]

Rip Vro

[thorn arch]

Nah

It's just a mapping function

It takes a range and converts it to another range

[oak verge]

so it just codes a range of values..

[idle horizon]

sure thanks

[marsh kelp]

I think they only use the basics of it in gamedev?

not the advanced stuff

[thorn arch]

Yep

[runic quarry]

The most advanced vector math I know is just dot products

[thorn arch]

Cframes are 4x4 matrices so yes linear algebra

[oak verge]

what would anyone even need math.map for

[copper apex]

Honestly, those stuff are all you really need, you dont need to anything else

Atleast from what I know

[thorn arch]

Very common

[marsh kelp]

@somber vault @stuck vortex
don't look here
https://discord.com/channels/211228845771063296/1308882894302875768

[thorn arch]

Like for doing rng

[oak verge]

nope, alot of other important math calculations are necessisary in gamedev

[copper apex]

Looking at my physics classes, like we mostly just used matrices, dot products and cross product

[copper apex]

Of course theres a lot more but i don't really think you need all the theoretical stuff from linear algebra

[thorn arch]

Most of the math other than basic arithmetic in gamedev is infact just basic vectors

[copper apex]

Yeah

[oak verge]

not necessarily

[somber vault]

just finished a $200 comm! (usd)
was for scripting lol

js so happy they did not scam

[oak verge]

I had to make a probability algorithm for my obby game 💀

[latent hearth]

i think math.map didn't exist when i answered this

[thorn arch]

You don't need to know how cframes work under the hood to use them, but it will be way easier if you do

[latent hearth]

don't remember though

[thorn arch]

Maybe

I only found it recently

[copper apex]

U made ur own algorithm ?

[thorn arch]

I would just make my own mapping function when necessary

[marsh kelp]

any of you guys heard of Khan Academy? what do you think of it?

[lost turtle]

j

[copper apex]

Loved it but now that I look back at it, i only like the stuff where they explain concepts and not solve problems

I think when people look online to solve problems, it's plagiarism.

[thorn arch]

local map(value, r1start, r1end, r2start, r2end)
   local alpha = (value-r1start)/(r1end-r1start)
   return r2start+alpha*(r2end-r2start)
end```

^ this function is equivalent to math.map

Is just a quality of life thing

[copper apex]

The reason why i think this (for people in STEM) is that you go into STEM to learn how to become a scientist, I think you should learn on your own and figure out the problem via textbooks, you needa learn how to research when looking at a problem, you shouldn't look up a similar problem online to solve it, it is plagiarism.

[runic quarry]

I think it's good yea

There's also openstax textbooks which I find to be okay

[thorn arch]

What's it for

[marsh kelp]

for learning math

[thorn arch]

Oh

[runic quarry]

Just learning in general

[obsidian vale]

huh

[runic quarry]

They have other subjects too

[oak verge]

yes i arranged obbies into teirs, and used Binomial and Cumulative distribution to arrange it into a bias if its in a specific significance level, so pretty much, if I want teir 1 obbies, i would make a significance level (acceptance value) of 10, give teir 1 obbies a value of 3, teir 2 and 3 obbies with a value of like 1.7, then pretty much use a randomised value and the probabilty of the obby value being in the significance range, then multiply it by the value assigned to the teir, then interpret the range results, check if its above or equal to the acceptance value, and then it accepts the obby, then it clones that obby and positions it correctly in the game, so you get a range of obbies, for my game theres like over 20^7 variations for each match.

[thorn arch]

Just watch 3blue1brown 😁

[runic quarry]

He does have a good series on linear algebra ig

[marsh kelp]

I did, but when I'm too stupid I have to try many different sources :D

[latent hearth]

this seems to give incorrect results

local PROMPT_DISTANCE = 40

local function f1(i, n)
    return PROMPT_DISTANCE * (i - 1 - (n - 1) / 2)
end

local function f2(i, n)
    return math.map(i, 1, n, -n / 2, n / 2) * PROMPT_DISTANCE
end

for n = 1, 5 do
    local prompts = {}
    for i = 1, n do
        prompts[i] = f1(i, n)
    end
    print("f1", table.concat(prompts, ", "))

    prompts = {}
    for i = 1, n do
        prompts[i] = f2(i, n)
    end
    print("f2", table.concat(prompts, ", "))
end```

[copper apex]

Pretty much, when someone looks at a problem, and then go online to watch someone do a similar one or the same one and do it, then they do it like them, i think it's plagiarism.

[thorn arch]

Oh yeah the linear algebra stuff is great

[latent hearth]

my brain is too turned off to think about why it's wrong but it is

[copper apex]

I'm talking mostly about STEM majors

[obsidian vale]

Oh so you're supposed to bang your head against it while teaching yourself misinfo

[thorn arch]

Off by one error 🥀

[runic quarry]

The animations of the vector space are really helpful

[latent hearth]

yea that came to mind hold on

[copper apex]

?

[nimble ginkgo]

this little text transition comprised of just over 100 lines of code is why im still awake at 2:49 am

[icy void]

Hello everyone, is there someone who can help me set up the voice chat player and the hearing of player sounds in Roblox?

[oak verge]

whats the difference between researching on a book and online 💀

[latent hearth]

okay my brain is still disabled i dont think its off by one

[oak verge]

how much ad creds do you have

[latent hearth]

or is it

[obsidian vale]

Where are the 100 lines

[thorn arch]

Nah it is

[nimble ginkgo]

lines of code*

[obsidian vale]

Oh I thought it was crack, mb

[oak verge]

probably just type writer effect, and tweening day / night

[nimble ginkgo]

[obsidian vale]

There are three transitions and a text effect

[copper apex]

When you study with textbooks, you teach yourself, a page can hold a 10 min video worth of information

[oak verge]

yea thats atleast like 50-90 lines of code

[obsidian vale]

How

[nimble ginkgo]

the typewriter effect is based in the center on the text instead of left -> right or right <- left

[obsidian vale]

How does your code look 😭

[copper apex]

It is dense, it is filled with information and with little tips and advices from the author

Not only that, it shows TONS of examples and practice problems

[nimble ginkgo]

do you wanna see it

[obsidian vale]

Yes

[latent hearth]

how would i fixi t then

[copper apex]

I dont why im getting questions marks lol its true

[obsidian vale]

Because it's not true in a broad context?

[marsh kelp]

isn't this a bad thing?

[copper apex]

How so

[oak verge]

i agree but disagree, youre talking about watching a video as research, most videos dont give you as much information rate as reading and interpretting the information yourself, as videos interpret the information for you but most likely simplify it making it too vague understand. I like researching WAY MORE online, i think what you meant was reading for research and information rather than watching videos. Online research will always be better than just reading a research book

[copper apex]

When u go into STEM, you learn to become a scientist, you need to learn how to research

[obsidian vale]

How do you learn to research?

[marsh kelp]

too much information in a small space can confuse more than help

maybe that's a good thing if you're reading to learn 100% of the subject

[copper apex]

Thats why you need to learn how to read a textbook

[runic quarry]

I mean researching online is a valuable skill

Just need to verify your sources too

[obsidian vale]

💔

Unreal points

[oak verge]

research in STEM is accepted more viably from online sources

[obsidian vale]

You need to learn to read a text book

[kind pond]

guys i can code and can make graphics for your games dm me if you have any work

[copper apex]

When i was talking about online, i was talking about people doing problems where when you watch it, you just copy their steps

[oak verge]

there are plenty of online textbooks

[copper apex]

You guys went sideways and made it broader and talked about RESEARCHING in general

[oak verge]

yea ofc thats dif

[nimble ginkgo]

click view whole file

[thorn arch]

math.map(i,1,n,0,(n-1)*d)-d/2

[obsidian vale]

You fell flat when talking about the entirety of STEM and ALL BOOKS and ALL ONLINE SOURCES

[marsh kelp]

but there's no learning in this 😭
they're just digging their hole deeper

[copper apex]

Thats just me, i think if you look online to do a problem, you watch someone do something similar OR possbile THE SAME one, I think its plagiarism, thats just me

[thorn arch]

;compile lua

Oh yeah that doesn't work here

[obsidian vale]

You're talking too broad for it to make any sense

[proper sonnet]

https://devforum.roblox.com/t/veteran-roblox-dev-just-launched-the-most-powerful-ai-game-builder-for-roblox-and-its-free-for-everyone-to-try/3856417/1

[oak verge]

that statement is just wrong, so just say "when you watch a video of someone solving a problem and copy their exact steps"

[marsh kelp]

I had to ask... why this?

Module.Init = function()

local FadeElements = function(Time, Target)

local Transition = function()

and not this

function Module.Init()

local function FadeElements(Time, Target)

local function Transition()

[obsidian vale]

local Area = require(AreaModules:FindFirstChild(AreaValue.Value))
Handle this a little more gracefully

[oak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-real-miserable-personabeys-personabey-gif-25244101

were absolutely cooked

[nimble ginkgo]

preference

[obsidian vale]

Does anyone know this aforementioned veteran dev

[nimble ginkgo]

is there a difference

[latent hearth]

still wrong

local PROMPT_DISTANCE = 40

local function f1(i, n)
    return PROMPT_DISTANCE * (i - 1 - (n - 1) / 2)
end

local function f2(i, n)
    return math.map(i, 1, n, 0, (n - 1) * PROMPT_DISTANCE) - PROMPT_DISTANCE / 2
end

for n = 1, 5 do
    local prompts = {}
    for i = 1, n do
        prompts[i] = f1(i, n)
    end
    print("f1", table.concat(prompts, ", "))

    prompts = {}
    for i = 1, n do
        prompts[i] = f2(i, n)
    end
    print("f2", table.concat(prompts, ", "))
end

[nimble ginkgo]

true

[thorn arch]

Slight

[nimble ginkgo]

wat is the differenc

[oak verge]

Its never too late for us to boycott 💔

[marsh kelp]

fair

is there a difference
don't think so, but most ppl find it easier to read the second one.

[nimble ginkgo]

honestly true, the local x = function() kinda clashes with any other variables around it

[obsidian vale]

I don't know if boycotting will be necessary

[thorn arch]

You can't define a method with the 1st way

[latent hearth]

compiler optimizations (not sure if they changed it so that both are equivalent)
and in the first one you would get a warning from your editor if you tried to call the function inside itself

[thorn arch]

🥀

[obsidian vale]

wow he's making nothing per week

[thorn arch]

It's

[obsidian vale]

❤️ great for him

I guess kids will finally be allowed to make low earning games and buy gag gamepasses

[thorn arch]

math.map(i,1,n,0,(n-1)*d)-n*d/2

[obsidian vale]

until it gets saturated because it can't do much

[thorn arch]

And uh

[nimble ginkgo]

"5k robux per week" ig its a lot if he's not dev-exing 💔

[obsidian vale]

also that ai model is definitely just a repurposed model

[thorn arch]

It's still gonna give nan for n = 1 i think

[oak verge]

thats not the problem . If its easy for him to make games with scripts and earn 5k rbx per week, then the game development market will soon become oversaturated and roblox's cost per effective games will go up due to low effort slop being produced

[latent hearth]

yea

[thorn arch]

Since it's not designed to handle ranges where start = end

[obsidian vale]

Yeah but he probably just got lucky

or he's just lying

he sounds like he's 12 and I don't know where he'd get money to market his game

[oak verge]

most likely "connections"

[obsidian vale]

How does a game even make 5k a week

That's so low it can't be consistent

[latent hearth]

5000 robux a week is only $70 a month

you don't have to worry about the market being saturated with people making $70 a month

[obsidian vale]

Yeah that means he makes 700R$ per day

with 1R$ per player

that's 700 visits

that's mostly 0-4 ccu

[oak verge]

to make 5k a week from a game atleast requires 30-40 ad creds, and a pretty addicting game, and for its possible ccu it has to do with a trend.

[oak verge]

this is unrealistic, what ccu consistently spends money on a game if it isnt trend slop

[obsidian vale]

That's what I'm saying

It doesn't make sense that it's even possible to make so little consistently

Your game is either dead or not

[oak verge]

if its trend slop the demographic is a kids audience, kids audiences have less robux, likely 30-150 rbx

so the passes and developer products have to be like 5-50 rbx

💀

so if its 5-50 rbx the average should be like 27 rbx spent, so 5k / 27 - > 185 players paying 27 rbx average per week

and since not all ccu would do that

its most likely a game with like 300-500 ccu

so he gets average 400 ccu

[obsidian vale]

Yeah that's not right

[oak verge]

why not

what ccu fr pays a game 💀

[obsidian vale]

Depends on the PCR

[oak verge]

PCR?

[obsidian vale]

Conversion rate

[oak verge]

as in the quantity of players willing to purchase products in a game?

[obsidian vale]

out of all players that join

average is 2%

[oak verge]

thats high for trendy slop games

[obsidian vale]

CCU is based on how many DAU you have and how long your playtime is

[oak verge]

its atleast like 15-30% for slop games

and it heavily depends on the price of the pass also

[obsidian vale]

30% you oughtta be next Jandel

[oak verge]

Nope, depends on the price of the pass, if its towards a kids demographic and the average price of passes is 5-50 rbx then it would make sense for the PCR to be high

[obsidian vale]

based on what

where are you pulling this out of

[oak verge]

for example look at these games and this genre

[obsidian vale]

Obby?

[oak verge]

the target demographic should be kids 12 and under, and the gamepass prices are often very cheep

[oak verge]

yes new platformers

theyre more like dynamic obbies

[obsidian vale]

You're giving really conflicting information

[oak verge]

people get them confused for static obbies which are like

[obsidian vale]

Do you know what the usual robux per player is

[oak verge]

Just take this game for example: https://www.roblox.com/games/16646849903/W11-Pogo-Obby

Check its demographic and average pass price

[obsidian vale]

You're making assumptions based on prices 💔

You can't even check its demographic

[oak verge]

you can literally judge its demographic by seeing the users per each server

[obsidian vale]

There are 800 players

[oak verge]

the way their avatar is , their typing patterns its good enough assumption

[obsidian vale]

by checking one full server, you've covered 4%

[tepid yacht]

how could i make like a drone be able to do flips its like a fpv drone it truns left right up and down but cant do flips?

[obsidian vale]

Not true either

[oak verge]

Ive played the game plenty of times and been through plenty of servers, so it would be more like 30-40%

[obsidian vale]

A lot of purchases actually come from people who have free avatars

[obsidian vale]

Yeah but your numbers are still bogus

[oak verge]

so youre just proving my point 💀

[obsidian vale]

I'm saying that they have Robux

to make purchases with

[oak verge]

exactly they have robux likely in the range of 5-100, becuase of roblox's cheap mobile option for 80 rbx

[obsidian vale]

also your point is completely wrong statistics

[oak verge]

and for some countries 40 rbx

[obsidian vale]

and that this game has noob avatars

[oak verge]

https://discordapp.com/channels/211228845771063296/1138164783967899678/1401509260009013350

[obsidian vale]

Yeah

that doesn't make your PCR 15-30% 😭

can you imagine how rich you'd be if that was true

imagine you get 100 concurrent, for 10 minutes

throughout the entire day

14400 visits

or players in general

at a

sub par rate

of 1 robux per user

you made 14400 robux

[oak verge]

15-30% = 22.5% average, 800 x 22.5% = 180, players average spending 5-100 rbx, lets say per day. ~ 48 rbx x 180 = 8.64k robux a day, which isnt far off for a game like this https://www.roblox.com/games/16646849903/W11-Pogo-Obby

[obsidian vale]

Those are completely made up stats 💔

[oak verge]

Even if theres some margin of error it should ofcourse be making atleast 3.5k+ robux a day

[oak verge]

1 robux per user is just so unrealistic and such a fake stat

[obsidian vale]

google it.

wait till you find out some games make 3

[oak verge]

its better to use robux per percent of players in its demographic, then break that down into robux per average user

[oak verge]

thats simply the most basic and vague average, so much so its margin of error is huge

[obsidian vale]

it's taken from real games

it's not estimate

[oak verge]

people have games with 500 visits and have made atleast 3 robux

[oak verge]

real games with different demographics, different PCR, different amounts of gamepasses, different style of games

[obsidian vale]

yeah

that's why it ranges from 1-3 or more

[oak verge]

so its a vague average that barely applies to your game unless its like theirs

[obsidian vale]

1 is sub par but it's not completely uncommon to have below 1 but then it's considered bad and you should work on it

[obsidian vale]

ITS ACTUAL STATS

FROM ACTUAL GAMES

[oak verge]

my statistics make sense and is likely

[obsidian vale]

Your stats are based on pulled out of ass

and very surface level scouting

[oak verge]

Btw those actual games include these 💔

your statistics are vague, taken from roblox's top games

[obsidian vale]

no?

[oak verge]

and if you know about statistics and average, the games with the largest user base heavily effect the average, especially considering their target demographics

[obsidian vale]

I mean top games probably don't have better stats I think, they just have a larger amount of players. But I don't know about that

[oak verge]

and to even aquire 1 robuck per user average youd need a fairly large amount of ccu, an interested demographic and a good enough PCR

[obsidian vale]

huh?? 😭

[oak verge]

large amount of players literally messes with the average measurement 💀

[obsidian vale]

no?

are you ragebaiting

the most common thing in statistics is that bigger sample means more accurate result

[oak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/mhhm-boss-baby-im-listening-serious-thinking-gif-19519530

[obsidian vale]

just because your game jumped from 100 concurrent to 1000 concurrent

doesnt mean users are any less incentivized to spend

[oak verge]

bigger sample also means more averaged results, meaning less accurate sampling, the other most common thing is massive sample sizes are awful and smaller sample sizes like looking at smaller games are better, as they can reflect the larger statistic

its called quota sampling

[obsidian vale]

more averaged results?? 😭

You know averaging isn't deducting or anything

[oak verge]

you realise that if out of 100 people, only 5 players donate 20 rbx, then the average taken by the sample would be 1 rbx per person

[obsidian vale]

yeah

[oak verge]

with a smaller sample you get more accurate results, that arent determined by a vague average, and you get more information per the statistic who donated in the 100 sample

thats the point of quota sampling

[obsidian vale]

PCR is 5% in your example btw which is still way too high but it makes sense because avg paying is low

[oak verge]

any reliable statistic uses quota

[oak verge]

"this doesnt make any sense!! his annalogy that describes exactly what ive been saying says something i didnt want to say!!"

[oak verge]

per the annalogy the PCR is 5% becuase the sample size is small

[obsidian vale]

No you just got closer to what I'm saying with your example

[obsidian vale]

Yeah

you are aware you previously said PCR is 20%

and then proceeded to claim that more players = worse stats

[oak verge]

youre proving my point as i literally stated for the average statistic of 1 rbx per person to match the average statistic of PCR 1% ish, the sample size of ccu would have to be at a threshold and way higher than the average newly released game, to get statistics like that the game would need to be of these statuses

[slender yew]

does this mean I'm experienced?

wtf 💀

why did it format like SHIT

[somber vault]

thanks master

[slender yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138164783967899678/1401514160897917028/image.png?ex=68908d46&is=688f3bc6&hm=800ab24716b7ee0bd74498d465ca1004377ff57953ebfabedfce7685fec8cc5d&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138164783967899678/1401514161120477224/image.png?ex=68908d46&is=688f3bc6&hm=91d7bb72b74784cbd44ea38b7ce23c2d7c4ac4d97b0fc83a68d052a2592f400e&

[oak verge]

im saying that per the stats you mainly accept (PCR ~1%) its too vague and doesnt apply to the majority of games, only unless it has high enough ccu

[obsidian vale]

except it's not made up

[marsh kelp]

wah? I thought you were gonna block me for this
... I mean, I would

[obsidian vale]

it's real

from actual games

[somber vault]

I couldn't block my belovered

[oak verge]

the average is completely wack and i already disproved it 😂

[obsidian vale]

and not surface level scouting of popular games

ok youre ragebaiting or stupid

[oak verge]

proof please

[obsidian vale]

im done w/ this

[oak verge]

easily folded

https://tenor.com/view/dr-stone-gif-22734784

[sharp finch]

Would this be a good roblox game?

[obsidian vale]

What is this?

[sharp finch]

A game called dare or doubled dare i found inside of my favorite television show.

[obsidian vale]

Yeah no but what's the game like

[sharp finch]

First it pciks two random words that you have to do hten if u dont want4 to then you can do a double dare

which is just a different one ut its two words

the 4th segment is a longer word almost like a sentence.

[obsidian vale]

I mean

no idea how you'd implement this

but I think it could be a pretty good social experience

[sharp finch]

I would probagbly implement it inside of a hangout game.

[obsidian vale]

Definitely but how would you make dares that are actually interesting

and also still follow TOS

[sharp finch]

Something like "Collect 5 coins areound the map"

or "Eat hair"

[obsidian vale]

Yeahh I don't know about those

[sharp finch]

Ah

Do you want to work for percent?

[obsidian vale]

No

[sharp finch]

What.....

Why????

[junior pier]

hey, percent here

nobody wants to work under me.

goodbye

[obsidian vale]

Lower percentile average of obbies is 44 Robux per paying user.
At an assumed 10 minute playtime and assumed avg ccu 800 (due to peaks) that is roughly 115200 players in a day.
If the PCR was 22.5% there would be 25920 paying users at an average of 44 which makes 1140480. A DAY.

Do you see how that PCR makes no sense?

for proof, that is the Roblox given benchmark for 50%-90% of games in the obby genre

[oak verge]

flawed stats, one like i mentioned before there are different types of obbies, that yield different stats, two your argument assumes the rate of paying users is every 10 minuites, thats completely flawed. I mentioned that the rate of paying users on LOWER BOUND average was around 47 rbx per day for each paying user,and the PCR being 22.5% would overal result in 47 x (800 x 22.5%) = 8.46k robux a day

[obsidian vale]

You're a fucking idiot

[oak verge]

https://discordapp.com/channels/211228845771063296/1138164783967899678/1401510555449036950

[oak verge]

argument please?

[obsidian vale]

How am I meant to make an argument when you're just stupid and wrong

[oak verge]

😂 and no argument

good you conceid 😂

[obsidian vale]

the misconception lies in the fact that they do not have 800 players in one day

they have 800 players RIGHT NOW

and if 800 players RIGHT NOW play an avg 10 minutes

that means they will cycle through

[glacial condor]

You're not accounting for the fact that most of those players come back

[obsidian vale]

roughly 144 cycles

[glacial condor]

And aren't unique players

[obsidian vale]

I believe retention is counted into those stats

also no

most players do not come back

[glacial condor]

Depends on the game

[obsidian vale]

most would mean 50%+ retention

[oak verge]

so mind you your argument was that the lower percentive average of obbies in general is 44 rbx, once again a vague average statistic 😂 , and 800-500 users is the games DAU, hence why i literally said

[obsidian vale]

yeah it can be higher or lower

but never most

[glacial condor]

For something like deepwoken most players are returning players

[obsidian vale]

I don't think you can hide behind irony

[glacial condor]

Id also assume grow a garden has a lot of returning players

[oak verge]

😂 sure show your next argument

[glacial condor]

But I wouldn't assume a obby game to have a lot of returning players

[obsidian vale]

You genuinely believed completely wrong statistics and now are trying to sound stupid on purpose

[obsidian vale]

I can check if there's a becnhmark for it

[oak verge]

😂 youre genuinly melting and not adressing my claim

[obsidian vale]

D1 4,75% retention

on a lower percentile

[glacial condor]

Factor that in the calculations then

[obsidian vale]

it already is

[glacial condor]

Oh k

[obsidian vale]

also 5% wouldn't make a significant difference

compared to the completely wrong PCR

[glacial condor]

also you could probably check the avarage playtime of players instead of assuming

I'm preety sure there's a tool for that

[oak verge]

Today and yesterday btw , 23 hours timelapse

[obsidian vale]

Its an estimation too but

[oak verge]

still on average 800 DAU

[obsidian vale]

10 minutes could be generous

[obsidian vale]

Do you know what DAU is?

[obsidian vale]

since if they have a lower time and still maintain 800, that means they're cycling more users

[oak verge]

daily active user

[obsidian vale]

mhm

Daily

active users

not average concurrent

or concurrent

[oak verge]

great and i showed you little standard deviation in the users 😂

[glass panther]

Hmmm

[coral field]

are you a spammer

[glass panther]

Nah

I am new

[obsidian vale]

Weird

doesn't show that for me

I thought it'd be global

[oak verge]

infact if i send a timelapse of its user count per hour for another day it would be in the range of 500-800 users like i said 😂 https://discordapp.com/channels/211228845771063296/1138164783967899678/1401520800745525258

[glacial condor]

Same

[glacial condor]

You don't have to

Dude there's tools to check the playercounts of games

[oak verge]

fr?

where??

[obsidian vale]

He's not trying to be right

He's trying to be stupid to ragebait

[glacial condor]

https://www.rolimons.com/

[oak verge]

Sure bud, so once i get the tool and show you youll conceid 😂

[glacial condor]

You can even see new visits

[oak verge]

where do i search up the game

[glacial condor]

There's a search bar

Genius help

[glacial condor]

https://www.rolimons.com/game/16646849903

Here's the link for the game

You can see the avarage playtime is about 6-8 minutes

[obsidian vale]

makes that PCR look even more outlandish

[glacial condor]

The playercount only drops to 710 on the lowests

And there's about 1k new visits every hour

[obsidian vale]

also

there's just straight up a graph

that shows what Im talking about

[obsidian vale]

yeah that one

[glacial condor]

Sometimes it dips to 400 CCU

[glacial condor]

Well visits do include players that come back

[obsidian vale]

Yeah it does

[glacial condor]

Preety sure a visit is every hour

[obsidian vale]

I dont think its per hour because 1000 new visits per hour would be really weak

I mean put it into perspective

8 minute playtime, only 1000 users per hour

they wouldnt even be putting up 100 concurrent

[oak verge]

and the DAU like i said was 800-500 💀 , even considering 7.3 min playtime, that doesnt mean that per the average of 7.3 minuites there is a perchace per the PCR i mentioned 💀 , you automatically assumed i meant that per the 7.3 minuite playtime, approx 180 players would play and spend robux, despite how i reiterated that it is a likely 180 players within the spanned duration of 1 day, meaning per each session of 7.3minuites average a likely of one of those players will join and spend the proceeding 47 rbx

[obsidian vale]

also the description says

new visits every interval

so every little bar

is how many new ones

[glacial condor]

We don't know how long the interval is

[obsidian vale]

you do

10 minutes

[glacial condor]

Dang

[obsidian vale]

I mean do you think they would just make up the bars in-between the hours?

[glacial condor]

Also 8 minute avarage playtime doesn't mean everyone plays for 8 minutes, players that quit immediately is counted into that statistic

[obsidian vale]

yes but that is average

and average works like that

[glacial condor]

I wish there was an indicator for each unique visitor

[obsidian vale]

its great for abstracting data while keeping it accurate

[obsidian vale]

what for

[glacial condor]

For gamesn

[obsidian vale]

yeah but like

[glacial condor]

It would help a lot

[obsidian vale]

what purpose

[glacial condor]

Idk why are visitors there

To check how many have played your game

[obsidian vale]

I mean it would tell you how fast a game is growing

[glacial condor]

If your game is a paid game it shows how many have bought it

Making a badge for it gets old

[obsidian vale]

oh im pretty sure you can see this

in the analytics tab

it seperates new from returning

[verbal coral]

Using AI to do test cases for you program is goated technique

[obsidian vale]

but honestly you're within 8%~ if you just assume theyre all new

[glacial condor]

Low-key w color scheme

[last hawk]

I need to make the camera collide with a tool that has collisions off in my game, does anyone know how?

[glacial condor]

I usually use a.i to clean my code up

Ai doesn't write good code but it sure knows how to clean it up

[verbal coral]

i put a lot of thought into choosing the colors 😁

[oak verge]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-bartholomew-kuma-one-piece-kuma-kuma-attacking-king-bekori-and-liberate-sorbet-one-piece-the-solo-revolution-gif-8815890636542126289

[last hawk]

yea nobody replying bru

[oak verge]

make a part, track the parts position to your camera pos, and then make them collide

[verbal coral]

ai is honestly so good at theoretical stuff 🙏

[oak verge]

good conceiding puppy

[verbal coral]

like back then programmers had to find textbooks

and relearn what they once new

but know i can just type in a prompt and relearn eveyrthing

[last hawk]

yea but the cam will still clip through right?

the part just wont

[oak verge]

then set up a collisiongroup for the part and camera

[obsidian vale]

Yeah I mean that's what it was built upon

but really do watchout

it will hallucinate if something isn't as common

or somewhat new

and no, you can't just give chatgpt the docs

you can, but it's not actually going to learn it

you'll just point it towards the correct thing

[lean ocean]

you can gaslight chatgpt its insane

[obsidian vale]

if it still doesnt have enough data about that thing

you're cooked

[lean ocean]

if u just say somethings wrong it will say you're right without thinking

even though its correct

[obsidian vale]

i mean yeah its a word predictor

you cant expect it to be good at proof reading logic

code formatting at best

[last hawk]

Ill try

[obsidian vale]

or creating common code from scratch

[fresh basalt]

yo, anyone know an estimate on the price for a sports game script

[verbal coral]

yeah i always try to tailor my prompt with wording that ive seen in literature/textbooks

[obsidian vale]

really good strat for getting it to use the correct sources

[oak verge]

just make the part's cancollide true again, then make it so that part has the default collision group off, and then for the part attached to the camera make it so that that part has its collision group off for default aswell, so the cam will only collide with the part

[obsidian vale]

It's really interesting how prompting chat bots work though

[last hawk]

eh

[obsidian vale]

It's like language crafting

[oak verge]

depends on the sports game

[fresh basalt]

afl

[last hawk]

Ill just put the camera into a different collision group than the tool

[verbal coral]

yo anyone got a good Tensor library for roblox?

[oak verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4iO-T59XJM&ab_channel=ByteBlox

[obsidian vale]

Tensor library for Roblox?

You're trying to train an AI native to Roblox?

[fresh basalt]

tryna make it really good not just bad scripts

[verbal coral]

No 😭

[oak verge]

whats the script about though, if its basic framework like movement and passing it should be minimum 27k

[obsidian vale]

ohh

i was thinking of

tensorflow

the app for creating ai models

[fresh basalt]

handballing, tackling, stamina, diving, kicking

[obsidian vale]

not tensor the math

[oak verge]

yea 35k minimum so ⏣ 35,000- ⏣50,000

[obsidian vale]

You can't really get a price like this since it really does vary from scripter to scripter

Reach out to several scripters to get several references

[fresh basalt]

im j tryna find a range not a set price

[obsidian vale]

Just don't mention your budget

Well yeah but there are a lot of details

[last hawk]

that will only make the part collide bruh. not the camera

[oak verge]

hence why i say ⏣ 35,000- ⏣50,000 .

[obsidian vale]

about "handballing, tackling, stamina, diving, kicking"

[oak verge]

This Fooly guys advice has been absolutely awful today

[obsidian vale]

I'm talking simulated ball physics for rollback

[last hawk]

the camera will still clip through and the part will just follow it

[obsidian vale]

custom character controller, stamina management

[oak verge]

then youre gonna need to make regions in which the camera cant be in, so if a camera is in a region CFrame, it gets pushed back from the vector direction its moving in

what is this even for bro

[last hawk]

gun system

I made...a scoping system but when you look too far up, the camera starts glitching through the tool

[fair copper]

u ever make a solid framework for combat then have to redesign it cuz it sucks after u made it

[verbal coral]

You’ll have to insert some constraints in your camera cframe update logic

And by constraint I mean algebraic constraints

[last hawk]

I...actually just used the roblox default camera logic

And changed the subject

[obsidian vale]

So was it solid or not

[fair copper]

an illusion

[verbal coral]

It sucks 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[last hawk]

what does solid mean

[obsidian vale]

In this context it practically means good

[fair copper]

dude fooly i completed my combat system

then i realized i hardcoded some parts

lol

[obsidian vale]

how do you realize that after??

[fair copper]

nah i mean i was gonna change them after testing

i just forgot to do the changes

[obsidian vale]

wew

[fair copper]

[last hawk]

my whole system is kinda hardcoded rn

[fair copper]

atleast it was good while it lasted

[last hawk]

But it should be changable

[fair copper]

now we make something cleaner

[obsidian vale]

Hardcoding is for tough guys like us anyway 💪

[last hawk]

the problem is rather that it aint safe from exploiting

[obsidian vale]

What kind of exploiting

[fair copper]

then it aint up for public release bro

[obsidian vale]

I mean you can get away with quite a bit

[last hawk]

Im just trying to make my own fun game, it pmo that I have to think about exploiters

[obsidian vale]

Just don't allow exploiters to ruin the game for everyone

or to ruin leaderboards

[last hawk]

ammo is stored on the client

[obsidian vale]

and youre pretty much good

[obsidian vale]

not that bad

but also a really easy fix no?

[verbal coral]

Ok of all things I feel like that’s the easiest to make server sided

[fair copper]

yeah u just need to add sanity checks

[last hawk]

phew

[fair copper]

for the ammo n all that stuff u got on the client

[obsidian vale]

like who gives a fuck if an exploiter flies around an obby for example

[last hawk]

that means checking if the ammo is a reasonable amount?

so anyways

[fair copper]

yea

[obsidian vale]

just keep track on the server

[last hawk]

Here is my camera logic

[verbal coral]

This is better than sanity checks @last hawk

[last hawk]

hmm

[obsidian vale]

Its not like they can shoot without going through the server

[fair copper]

yep u should leave the ammo calc on server

[verbal coral]

You can model everything analytically on the server as on the client for ammo

[fair copper]

and just display it on client

[obsidian vale]

its more responsive to have it on the client as well

[verbal coral]

You should do calcs for both server and client

[last hawk]

actually Im not making it displayed lol

[verbal coral]

So it’s responsive too

[last hawk]

for realism

[obsidian vale]

hardest part about this is deciding what to do once you detect a discrepancy

[fair copper]

hmm i havent played with ammo yet imma find out whats best

[verbal coral]

Well there’s rlly only one option…

[fair copper]

for combo i just use sanity checks rn

[verbal coral]

Sync to server..

[fair copper]

melee tho

[obsidian vale]

yeah

I'd probably try something like a remote function from client to server

then spawn another thread for the shooty part

and return the correct ammo

[oak verge]

yea so just make it so that the camera cant be in the region of the gun. I recommend making the CFrame region this ```lua
local gun:Model = --[[your gun ]]
local region = workspace:GetPartBoundsInBox(gun:GetPivot(), gun:GetExtentsSize())
for _,v in pairs(region) do
if v.CollisionGroup==""--[[you desired collision group]] then
--now push out the camera from the camera vector its facing--
end
end

[obsidian vale]

to match it on the client

[last hawk]

hmm

[fair copper]

im using packet module instead of remot functions so my server to client is fast ngl i'd use that to my advantage and design the combat around it

[verbal coral]

Remote functions r highkey scary

[obsidian vale]

How come

[last hawk]

wait let send a video how the scoping is

[obsidian vale]

I mean you could also make another

[fair copper]

client can fire them fake

[obsidian vale]

remote event

[last hawk]

I also frogor to mention that aiming isnt view modelled, but the arms actually move into the direction of your camera

[obsidian vale]

but a remote function would make the use really nice

[verbal coral]

More overhead than remote events and unreliable

[obsidian vale]

Idk if they have more overhead than remote events

[oak verge]

all you need is the region which the camera cant enter, and a part which tracks the cameras location, then if the part is in the region where the camera cant enter, you can just push it back by overwriting the cframe of the camera, for testing purposes you can just reset the cframe of the camera back to the head's cframe.

or to the cframe before where it starts to glitch out

[verbal coral]

Well the server doesnt need to tell the client anything until the player stops firing the gun, rather than sending data every shot

[obsidian vale]

local function Gun:Shoot()
  self.Ammo -= 1
  self:UpdateDisplay()
  local serverAmmo = ShootFunction:InvokeServer(self.Id)
  self.Ammo = serverAmmo
end

something like this

[verbal coral]

So I think it’d be better to just use remote events

[last hawk]

hmm

[verbal coral]

Doesnt need*

[last hawk]

yea but Ill finish the other mechanics first

[tidal bolt]

the server NEEDS to validate the hits

[obsidian vale]

yeah but I dont think thats too different

[tidal bolt]

if you let the client decide the hits it's basically exploiters' paradise

[obsidian vale]

from just firing a remote back

[oak verge]

yea so when that happens just offset the camera by ```lua

Camera.CFrame*CFrame.new(0,2+(gun:GetExtentsSize.Y/2),0)

[verbal coral]

Well for semi automatic firing there will be no discrepancy unless you’re using unreliable, or if the client is cheating

[last hawk]

yea but wouldnt I need to set the camera type to scriptable for that?

[glacial condor]

Might be firing to the server too much

[obsidian vale]

Yeah no remote events would be fine

just that this is really easy to use

[glacial condor]

It's better to check if you can do everything instead of only the ammo

[runic quarry]

anybody up to playtest some volleyball

[oak verge]

nah scriptable is useless, the camera can still move around and change cf

so you dont have to change it

[obsidian vale]

You could even use attributes, there'd be a slight delay but doesn't matter since I wouldn't expect client desync to happen often

[verbal coral]

No what I’m saying is that the server doesn’t need to communicate to the client at all in this case

Only the client sending the server signal to fire

[obsidian vale]

It's more of a protective measure

[last hawk]

how do you make these fancy ahh code messages btw

[obsidian vale]

so the client doesnt get stuck with a softlocked magazine

[last hawk]

Right now Im only working on semi auto firing

[obsidian vale]

literally everything can go wrong on the client

[verbal coral]

There will be no desync tho

Unless client is exploiting

Remote event firing is reliable

[obsidian vale]

if I cut my wifi and fire a remote it probably might

[last hawk]

the whole thing is consisting of remote events

[verbal coral]

It won’t

[last hawk]

[obsidian vale]

how come

[obsidian vale]

ok lets say you also rate limit the gun

[last hawk]

ooo

[obsidian vale]

the client has a lag spike

they sent 20 requests for shooting at once

[verbal coral]

Because the client doesn’t stop sending data until it has received from the server affirming that the server receives it

[obsidian vale]

due to that

the client now has -20 ammo

but they only really shot 2

[verbal coral]

No all 20 will go through unless you disconnect

It will just take a while

No remotes are dropped

[obsidian vale]

That's not what I said

[obsidian vale]

@verbal coral

because obv youre not going to allow inf fire rate

[last hawk]

so I replace "gun" with the mesh name here?

[last hawk]

oh yea it allows inf fire rate too at the moment

😭

hopefully should be an easy fix

[fair copper]

💔

[verbal coral]

The server can send a signal to the client that it has rejected the firing command in that edge case, but for all normal cases the server can simply not reply

[fair copper]

hardcoding or vibe coding

[verbal coral]

To save bandwidth

[oak verge]

no with the gun model

[obsidian vale]

yeah that would be a remote event way

[last hawk]

thats the mesh na-

alright yea

[obsidian vale]

a single number isn't really an issue

but yeah I guess you'd save a few bytes of bandwidth

[verbal coral]

No you would only use remote if you know you’re getting a response

But the server dictates that, the client doesn’t know

[obsidian vale]

that's

what I just said

[verbal coral]

Oh I read it wrong mb

[last hawk]

and what does getextentssize do?

[oak verge]

pretty much returns the vector3 size of the model

[verbal coral]

Holy moly atp I just refer to remote events as remote

[oak verge]

its like using Part.Size

[obsidian vale]

so its either send a little more packets for your convenience or don't

[oak verge]

but for model

[verbal coral]

Like remote function doesn’t exist in my mind

[obsidian vale]

I mean theyre really cool for interface or reloading

[last hawk]

Dont you need () at the end of a function?

[oak verge]

yea you dont need it for gun:GetExtentsSize

[verbal coral]

💀

[obsidian vale]

nah man you gotta trust them

[last hawk]

who

[oak verge]

freak i mean yea you need it

[oak verge]

why is bro still adressing me

[verbal coral]

You spelt receiver wrong btw

[obsidian vale]

the person who told you you don't need to use brackets

[oak verge]

couldve swarn you blocked me bc you melted

[last hawk]

AAAAAAAA

[verbal coral]

It’s okay there is a replace all feature in Roblox studio

[obsidian vale]

yeah make sure your settings are corrected

[carmine hornet]

fellas
promise module
good or bad?

[obsidian vale]

I accidentally switched every event name to the same one by accident

[oak verge]

bro the code isnt verbatim i just gave it as a reference

[last hawk]

bruh

Im still learning lua

[verbal coral]

The module itself is fine but tbh it’s redundant, just manage your signal connections properly

[hot prism]

Lf someone who wants to make easy games together (I am a modeler)

[carmine hornet]

thanks for the feedback

[oak verge]

its GetExtentsSize().Y/2 mb

[last hawk]

so you do need the brackets

[obsidian vale]

[oak verge]

si

[obsidian vale]

I mean I dont really use promises

but if it manages your signal connections for you

why not

[oak verge]

bro i forgot to add it 💀 i literally added it here https://discordapp.com/channels/211228845771063296/1138164783967899678/1401531880616235008

[verbal coral]

Idk I feel like it’s just

Not hard to manage

[last hawk]

you said I dont need it

[obsidian vale]

I mean they would definitely help me if they were cross context

[oak verge]

you do

[obsidian vale]

whenever I need to wait for a response from the player

[oak verge]

does it work

[obsidian vale]

but also time out

and also account to the fact they could leave

like 30 lines extra and several connections

[last hawk]

it says the function doesnt even exist

[oak verge]

model:GetExtentsSize() does exist, unless what you added to it just isnt a model

[last hawk]

oh

OH

yea no I think I dont even need it if it shall only collide with the receiver lol

[verbal coral]

non —!strict user detected

[oak verge]

show me if it works im curious

[obsidian vale]

strict is so annoying because I have to keep adding that it's an instance AND it has these elements

[verbal coral]

The humble ::any

Wait if it’s an instance you can lowk cast it to any descendant of instance

[oak verge]

whats the actual point of ```lua
@native

[verbal coral]

And it doesn’t error

[obsidian vale]

pretty sure it compiles it to machine code

[frail oyster]

Hey, can someone help me make sense of why scripts work in solo play test in Studio but not in the game, team test or "Local server" test?

[verbal coral]

It’s faster especially w math and sh, supposedly

[obsidian vale]

it doesnt help with api use but if youre doing a lot of math it might help

[verbal coral]

Yes native code generation

[oak verge]

doesnt it help with the processing speed of complex code

[frail oyster]

Why is solo play test in Studio different from all the other options? I don't understand

[obsidian vale]

it helps by compiling to machine code

but the API doesnt get any faster

mostly just math operations

[last hawk]

uhh

[verbal coral]

I can’t tell for certain but for me it’s usually race conditions, as in your code only works if certain things load faster than others

And solo play test usually facilitates that

[last hawk]

I need to put it into an if loop to only set the offset incase the camera actually clips through right?

[oak verge]

yes

[last hawk]

how would I check that?

[verbal coral]

Math

[frail oyster]

Weird.. I've made a money, XP and leveling system and want the level to be on the players overhead GUI aswell but for some reason it works correctly in studio solo play test but not for any other way (in game, team test, local server test) and I've tried to make it work by adding more waits and stuff but it doesn't change anything sadly :(

[clear obsidian]

Hey Guys i am new scripter i started yesterday

[frail oyster]

Nice man good luck

[clear obsidian]

Thanks

[oak verge]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bAtqSc2y-wY 🥹 🤤

bro who keeps sending that 💀

[last hawk]

But I prefer meth over math

[oak verge]

crypto pics

[last hawk]

🙁

so anyways

what type of meth uhh math

[oak verge]

actually yk what, theres a better, less demanding method

but its prob gonna be less accurate

Keep the region of the gun model thing.. but instead make a set of upper and lower bound cframes

for where the camera cant be

and constantly run on client with runservice

to push it out

[last hawk]

what does that mean

[oak verge]

otherwise youll need to loop on serverside aswell, with multipel scripts

[last hawk]

the whole thing is already running on client

[sharp finch]

how code

[last hawk]

is bro cooking the entire bible or wha

[sharp finch]

is this jump possibly im scared

[oak verge]

local gun:Model = --your gun
local camera:Camera = workspace.CurrentCamera
local runservice=game:GetService("RunService")

runservice.RenderStepped:Connect(function()
  local CFrameSet = {}
  local gunCF=gun:GetPivot()
  local gunSize=gun:GetExtentsSize()
  CFrameSet[1] = gunCF.Position+(gunSize/2); --< frontofGun
  CFrameSet[2] = gunCF.Position-(gunSize/2);--<< back
  local CameraCFpos=camera.CFrame.Position
  
  if ((CameraCFpos.X>=CFrameSet[1].X) and (CameraCFpos.X<=CFrameSet[2].X)) and ((CameraCFpos.Y>=CFrameSet[1].Y) and (CameraCFpos.Y<=CFrameSet[2].Y)) then
camera.CFrame=CFrame.new(camera.CFrame.Position+(gun:GetExtentsSize()/2)*1.3)
end
end)

--pr som'

[last hawk]

it still clipping

[oak verge]

show

[oak verge]

debug it then, add print function at the start of the if mouse down thing and above the end) and add a print inside the if statement i sent you

if nothing prints in the if statement that i sent you then its likely juse to do with the indexes

so just switch this

[last hawk]

uh ok

now it does do something

[glacial condor]

Add an offset for the arms

Position the gun forward half of the arms size

The arms size would be the collective size of all the limbs

The upper arm the lower arm the hand

[green valley]

what yt channel or website should i use to learn scripting

[glacial condor]

Ask chatgpt with the search feature enabled

It's a better google than us

[sleek crater]

guys uhm
I've started scripting 3 months ago and I can autonomously make combat scripts w even raycasting am i doin good or am i lowkey slow

tryna get a lil insight from people who are much more advanced than me ty.

[swift plume]

Any beginners that wanna make a parkour game

[green valley]

but what did u use

[glacial condor]

It was so long ago I don't remember

[somber vault]

guys

how can i learn coding

like should i use tutorials or?

[green valley]

idk i think brawl dev tutorials

[somber vault]

k

[twin basin]

GPT (for theory only). Beginner videos are also good. Then there's devforums which I would just use ai for instead

[young rock]

does shell ejection look bad?

[twin basin]

It's good but I think it shouldn't fly off so hard

[young rock]

hm

how about now

[twin basin]

Yeah that's good

[sleek crater]

it looks more natural

tas p cool

[somber vault]

cool

but why in the reloading anim does the players hand enter the camera

[sleek crater]

so uh

brawldev tutorials 100%

[somber vault]

kk

[sleek crater]

started watching em around 3 months ago

[young rock]

what?

[young rock]

uh ik the animations are bad

[sleek crater]

*that's pretty cool

[somber vault]

k

[young rock]

i just took them from the toolbox

[sleek crater]

so i think u should

[young rock]

oh thanks

[sleek crater]

watch brawldev tutorials till you master the basics

[sleek crater]

👍

[sleek crater]

Which is uh, quite hard @somber vault imma be real w ya

[somber vault]

im doing it rn

[sleek crater]

ok so

what you do not wanna do is watch a tutorial and not code

[green valley]

should u do the advanced playlist too after u finish the basic one

[sleek crater]

u watch a tutorial then go code the stuff in ur own way

[sleek crater]

yeer

[somber vault]

k

[sleek crater]

advanced stuff is much more fun

compared to basic

it's like, the basic playlist is fun but the advanced one really just is sum else

also @green valley @somber vault take breaks btw

[balmy arrow]

how does one find talented/experienced scripters

[sleek crater]

if you're too tired to go script, then don't scirpt

or if you just don't want to

[balmy arrow]

i have so much money everyone in #scripter-hirable are so ass 💔

[green valley]

alr

[sleek crater]

u can burn urself out quickly if you try to delve too deep into the unknown

[somber vault]

k

[sleek crater]

I mean, maybe the standards you're lookin for might be a lil high 🤔

though, you can probably see someone there

(might have to scroll a lot)

[balmy arrow]

i dont care i have the money so PLEASEE 🙏

[lean ocean]

why does it always go same velocity same direction

or am i tripping

[young rock]

it does

[sleek crater]

what's the stuff you're even tryin to make scripters do tho :

[balmy arrow]

i scrolled the ENTIRE channel everyone of them is not what im expected, i have wayy too much standards

[sleek crater]

If I can ask

[young rock]

does it look bad

[zealous gorge]

https://youtu.be/0ktS0snM32U I am not sure what could be the issue. The video file below is how the cutscene should play out but in the yt video, it does not work.

[somber vault]

i think u shared the wrong file

[zealous gorge]

The video file is how the cutscene should play out..