#add samurai and ninjas

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silent shard
lime sapphire
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Nooo

agile birch
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Wdym no. Thats a really good idea for their next major update

lean wedge
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šŸ™…ā€ā™‚ļø

agile birch
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Cmon šŸ˜‚

autumn garden
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Wanna play samurai? Go play For Honer

agile birch
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I dont understand the hate for the japanese. They are really cool šŸ˜‚

stoic hawk
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No thatā€™s alright, donā€™t need that. Thanks though.

pure saffron
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It's not about the Japanese it's about the game bro. The regions and factions are primarily inspired by European conflicts, ninjas and samurai just do not fit.

lean wedge
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Might as well honestly

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It would unironically fit alongside the other disappointing aspects

agile birch
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i have the feeling this will be something in the future. Yeah its primarily but there is not a restriction on that lol. Anyways i dont really want to make this into a big discussion

stoic hawk
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Carbonara

autumn garden
rare sinew
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don't think the game needs another faction right now

charred bridge
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Again with this? This is the third time this week (to my knowledge)

eternal bridge
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Think of all the money on skins and eastern battlepasses they could be making

plucky cradle
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thatd be awesome

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chivalry 2 luckily has personality but most swordfighting games are just boring european stuff

elder veldt
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eternal bridge
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Thereā€™s even precedent for it

neon reef
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Joining in this thread to dunk on the weebs

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You already got the three primary weapons that were used in medieval Japan

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The spear, the glaive, and the warbow

eternal bridge
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Iā€™m sorry mate the spear did not originate in japan

autumn garden
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He said primarily used

neon reef
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Neither did the musket but then it's also the weapon that made the sengoku jidai period so bloody.

neon breach
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Is this classes or just skins? It would be cool too see the skins

glad aspen
neon reef
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Katana lame. Swords were status symbols but still had valid use in combat. Katanas were only ever a status symbol and their only glory days were in the fanfictions of retired samurai in the days of the Shogunate.

plucky cradle
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why are larpers always so bitchy

neon reef
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Why do people need to push Eastern weapons into a historic European combat game
Y'all have For Honor and I guess Soulcalibur already

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Esp since the Eastern weapons are plainly not good enough to compete with European ones or are just an Eastern flavor of weapons that already exist in Europe

stoic hawk
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Post deleted lol

plucky cradle
neon reef
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Sounds like you might be more interested in a different game then.

plucky cradle
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boo hoo brah

rancid ridge
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šŸ‘

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Add Katanas
Haters will cope

eternal bridge
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Nothing says a PvP slasher game cannot have a variety of cosmetics from places around the world

neon reef
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Idk man, it's Chivalry 2, not Bushido 2 or Nindo 2, so idk what to tell you. I'd like to see more representation from Russian, Polish, and other Baltic/Balkan armor first, as well as some fancier stuff like Maximilian plate on Agatha before being concerned about expanding to other regions that massively juxtapose the style of weapons and armor worn and used in Europe.

Also flail. People have been waiting on that from CMW. And sling.

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Maybe there'll be some version of Chivalry set in Japan after Torn Banner stops active development on Chivalry and works on a new project. It'd be cool but not every weapon needs to be in this game. Again- there are other PvP games that cater to that fantasy, probably including modded servers in CMW.

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'Cause yeah, Japan, Korea, India, and China all had distinctly different means of fighting wars prior to the invention of gunpowder and fought with one another somewhat frequently in the East, but they're literally a continent away. It would be an interesting game to play but this isn't that game.

stone glacier
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šŸ’©

plucky cradle
neon reef
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SC6 has multiple characters that use some variation of a katana, one with kunai, one with tonfa, one with a bo staff, one with a dao, one with an Eastern longsword (Forgot the specific name for it), one with an oversized chakram, one with nunchaku, one with a guandao, and probably more I'm missing. For Honor has eight different Japanese characters and five different Chinese characters out of 32 total, making up a little over a third of the cast with Eastern representation (excl. two characters from the middle east).

neon reef
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I know you're trying to be offensive and dismissive by referring to anyone going "this game ain't it" to your request as larpers, but you come off as the worst kind of weeb, that demands a katana being in every game ever and crying "Cultural oppression!!!" when there are things where it just wouldn't fit

finite temple
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I would hope the artists that seem to be barely keeping up with three factions get time to focus on them over a fourth or fifth new faction that gets to not have any customisation

neon reef
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Also have you been to an SCA/HEMA bout, people are toned af from wearing armor and fighting with weapons for several hours a day multiple days a week.

plucky cradle
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@neon reef u lost me at sc6. not reading the rest. im happy for u or sorry thath appened

eternal bridge
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It doesnā€™t need to be a faction. They made viking looking gear without a fourth faction

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Honestly they can get away with a katanasword, and some kind of glaive, with a samurai suite for the knight class.

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Similar in size to the shit they made for Thayic Stronghold

finite temple
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which fits geographically. Tbh if they do Japanese themed stuff I'd wan them to go all in. All new weapon skins, armour skins, some sweet Japanese castle maps. That'd be cool but it'd have to be it's own thing, kind of like tenosia but with two separate factions

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they could honestly stretch tenosia to encompass a mongolian themed faction, and have them fight. Maybe base a new faction on more of a chinese aesthetic

eternal bridge
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Agatha got the vikings, mason gets the ashina clan, very simple

neon reef
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We really don't need a fourth faction.

eternal bridge
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Thatā€™s why Iā€™m not talking about a fourth faction

neon reef
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I'm responding to Badger.

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Especially not as the "next major update" as OP put it.

finite temple
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we don't, tenosia needs serious work. Just spitballing stuff

neon reef
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Mason and Agatha still feel pretty limited in their skin selection by themselves, and Tenosia feels barebones, especially to people who aren't buying battlepasses.

eternal bridge
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Mason is more limited than agatha

neon reef
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Definitely, I feel bad for red team.

finite temple
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they at least get the coolest vanguard skin

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but it's balanced with the awful, awful footman skins

neon reef
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I'm not big on their lamellar which is about the best vanguard has to offer.

eternal bridge
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They need at least two more footmen skins

finite temple
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the tenosian veteran, i think it's called that now

eternal bridge
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Iā€™ve stuck with the default Mason vanguard skin with a nice heraldry and havenā€™t surpassed it

neon reef
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But again, Eastern Europe could see more representation, as well as Egypt, and Mediterranean powers like Greece and Malta.

finite temple
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That'd be cool tbh

covert sedge
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No one cares about them lmao

neon reef
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Would strongly prefer that over weeb toothpicks and the fuckin kusarigama

eternal bridge
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i just want a naginata glaive

gentle jacinth
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add orcs in the game while you're at it!

covert sedge
stoic hawk
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Listen Iā€™ve been saying this for ages now. They should add a shotgun.

elder veldt
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Honestly why aren't there helicopters?

lean wedge
gentle jacinth
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good, Chivalry 2 isn't For Honor šŸ’€

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why does everything have to be euros vs asia lmao

glad aspen
# gentle jacinth why does everything have to be euros vs asia lmao

Itā€™s because Devs canā€™t do (itā€™s hard) a good enough job of separating factions in a EU vs EU game.

Itā€™s usually just minor armor difference like Mason vs Agatha here.

When they introduce different ethnicities it allows instant distinction in armor, weapons, colors and voices.

There is no confusing a Tenosian with a Mason/Agathian.

Really it comes down to generic EU, Viking, Barbarian or Pirates in games like these before they lean into other counties.

neon reef
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idk, I feel Mount and Blade 1/2/Warbands do a good job of representing the difference between factions while still representing most of Europe relatively well

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Like with Butterlord you've got the Imperials ("Romans", though it's clear this still includes much of Germany) Khuzaits (Mongols), Aserai (Turks), Vlandians (French and Spaniards), Battanians (Northern Germans), and Sturgians (Scandinavians).

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Warbands takes place a bit later and mostly it's the same with some small renaming with Vaegirs being included as a representation of Eastern Europe in place of the Empire.

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Mongols and Turks are inarguably the East in our minds now but they were present as political powers within Europe as well in the medieval ages.

lean wedge
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nords only make up like a bit of a percentage of it

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armor and troop names speak for itself

neon reef
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Yeah you're right

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Most of my time in butterlord has been spent in the southeast where the khuzaits/empire/aserai intersect because mamlukes + khan's guard + cataphracts is such a good army

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Horse units are so ridiculous in that game vs normal ones- they need a bigger logistical profile for sure

earnest mountain
eternal bridge
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I want a katana and gun combo to cosplay as the glock saint isshin

lean wedge
gentle jacinth
neon reef
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Long before and after the Crusades

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The stretch of land between Turkey and Iran, the Arabian Pensinsula, and Egypt were effectively considered European powers of their own until the separation of the East and West and the end of the Medieval era from the fall of Constantinople.

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Since the Mediterranean Sea was the locus of European civilization for centuries after the Roman empire had started its decline.

gentle jacinth
lean wedge
neon reef
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India???

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Where tf are you getting India from?

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Right. The katars. Hate to say it given everything I already said but that seems to be a, uh. Weapon that's not indicative of the actual stage of combat the game's in.

gentle jacinth
arctic jolt
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Ahh yes, every game needs some sort of lunar new year or weeb shit in it.

bold wolf
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Looks familar doesnt it?

neon reef
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The disc-shaped belly plates were common in armor across the Middle East in the 15th century

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Just because they existed in India doesn't mean it's the only place that they existed.

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Persian no- Persian empire is 500BC Iran

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But whatever Iran was at this point in time during the rise of Islam, the fall of Constantinople, and the formation of the Ottoman empire- absolutely. But again, that area was a major European cultural center until the definition of what counted as Europe changed drastically after the fall of the Byzantine empire.

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With north Germany and the British isles seeing a lot more attention and maintaining more political clout and the English Channel and North Sea starting to get more trade.

bold wolf
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And Persian I use persian not as a reference to the Persian empire but simply ethnically, so Iran

neon reef
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In terms of that specific piece, yeah

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And it was definitely what the default Tenosian footman armor was modeled off of

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But I think credence is deserved to the broader style, and that pieces such as the footman's helmet (conical, with a point, and the long, double-spaded nose guard that goes through the visor) is distinctly Turkish.

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But yeah, I'll agree there's more muddying than I thought between the Mongols, Indians, and precursors to the Ottoman Empire in this game.

uneven shore
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No

lean wedge
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That helmet is universal in the indo/turco-perisan hemisphere

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If you are talking about the retractable faceplate thing, you don't see it often in anatolia

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Also, keep in mind the shape of the chilta hazr masha borrowed a lot from the mongol hatangu deel, which makes sense if you look into the history of Iran beforehand

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Especially the shoulders

neon reef
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Good to know, thanks.

zinc trail
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The original post being deleted is pretty funny

slow magnet
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wanna play samurai? go play chiv 1 deadliest warrior

neon reef
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Which to respond to a point I ignored earlier, is a tie-in to a commercial brand which is why they're in there