[Resolved] Heavy mace is OP now

[rigid snow]

please get rid of the 20% reduced stam BS.
OP as balls

[tight snow]

so do you get to take more stamina damage on block while using the heavy mace or does it deal more stam dmg?

[remote jetty]

the fact that heavy mace only deals 40 where as a stick causes 50 is a bit dumb and insulting

[rigid snow]

you take less

[proven rain]

ignore me and nerf quarterstaff stam reduction

@rigid snow hi bb

[dark jacinth]

really op? 😂 , I can't tell someone joking alot with this because mace is only good on 1 person, war hammer is funny different story, then they say "sword is op" what next they going say "oh short sword is op" as we all know short spear is going get their nerf again in speed

[gleaming vortex]

Most people complaining about this are greatsword Messer mains that are mad that weapons can compete with theirs now

That being said, reduce the stamina reduction to 10% because 20% is too much.

Also reduce the stamina reduction on shields from 75% to 40% and make axes do bonus damage to shields (intended feature btw)

[proven rain]

I agree with that lol. It's just the stamina reduction that's bullshit, people barely need to counter with it to win the stamina game

[gleaming vortex]

I like having weapons with different functionalities (one is better for winning on stam and one does better hp damage) but yeah the balancing needs to be tweaked a bit.

[proven rain]

it IS heavy mace that you don't need to counter with at all to stay net positive on stamina right?

or am I getting it mixed up

[gleaming vortex]

No you have to counter

It's just you don't have to counter as much

Quarterstaff you don't have to counter at all

[proven rain]

ahhh yeah it was QS disregard

idk why I thought it was heavy mace

I forgot because I usually just ignore QS users in duels lmao

[rigid snow]

"Most people complaining about this are greatsword Messer mains that are mad that weapons can compete with theirs now"

Gmace was on the level of GS and Messer before the patch, now its in another galaxy

@gleaming vortex

[gleaming vortex]

Only vs knight, hm vs vanguard with gs or Messer they were better

[rigid snow]

Participation trophies

[gleaming vortex]

Charity peasant hat

[rigid snow]

bruh

I beat kwazi and cryptic in same tournament

everyones hat is a charity

[gleaming vortex]

You lost to shinbop with a rapier

Noob

[rigid snow]

i beat you once with a brom

7 months ago

[gleaming vortex]

I beat you with katar (means nothing that weapon is fucking busted)

Ya they should reduce the stam negation to 10% and see if it feels better

[abstract topaz]

Or just remove it

[gleaming vortex]

🤡

[flat cargo]

This is why FFA will always be better

[abstract topaz]

Participation trophy

[gleaming vortex]

Consolation prize

[abstract topaz]

You're calling out so many people except me rn

[gleaming vortex]

Why weren't we invited to Twitch rivals

[abstract topaz]

IKR

Like why was a hat givin for that when it was filled with.people that don't play the game

[gleaming vortex]

Obviously they contributed to the community (took money from the developers and never played the game again)

The #1 winners for both na and EU were both actual chiv streamers so that's good I guess

[abstract topaz]

Crispyduck kwazi and bungee should have hats + A few people that make the community work. (Funk, Cody). Most Internal testers give shit takes and it's obvious they don't even listen to the smart ones.

The comp scene is literally just peasant hats so that why I'm pissed. CHIV HAS OFFICIAL COMP SCENE

[gleaming vortex]

Idk you seem a little biased about the individuals who deserve hats

You forgot all the console players they deserve hats too

[abstract topaz]

Oh yeah and hmace is OP

[hot marlin]

i agree

[tacit current]

I'd rather this meta where Blunt actually has a fighting chance (e.g. War Club, War Hammer, Heavy Mace, Maul) than return to the pits of Longsword/Messer only.

Find an answer for it before complaining about it being OP, would hate to see this turn into another Highland Sword situation.

[gleaming vortex]

its literally just a matter of "nerf it, but not that much"

dont take away the 20%, reduce it to 10%. If that still sucks reduce it to 5%

[hot marlin]

tbh you could reduce it to 10% and nerf the slash speed a smidgen and it'll be fine

[rigid snow]

The answer is to remove the stam buff

and it would be fine

[lucid shadow]

It's the slash speed combined with the stamina penalty when getting hit (as its blunt) that makes it hard to deal with imo

[lucid shadow]

Wonder how OP is the heavy mace special attack

[neat lava]

I agree this opinion.

[rigid snow]

The problem isnt with blunt weapons

2hh is fine, its hmace with the stam bonus

[flat cargo]

all the blunts are kinda OP, the hitstop into new swing animation is really janky, it needs to be smoothed out

[woeful flicker]

eh not all blunt, cudgel definitely isn't

[hallow sequoia]

just don't get hit bro

[elder cliff]

better advice is dont 1v1 somebody with a weapon designed for 1v1

if im rocking LS and axe or something, and see a MAA with a morning star, im gonna let some other poor idiot fight the MAA

[woeful flicker]

LS is one of the best weapons for 1v1

well, I guess it's still not the best matchup against morning star, but you can definitely win a lot of 1v1s with LS

[dire cypress]

LS is baseline meta

but MS is the only thing I will switch to mace to fight

[woeful flicker]

I use to main mace + throwing knife and now main heavy mace for duels just because of LS

LS is the one weapon that genuinely tilts me

[elder cliff]

yeah i like LS a lot but like gimmic said, im still gonna go mace for it in that scenario

or axe

to use my own example

altho ive been trying to get the sided maces so thats pretty much been my sidearm for awhile, its quite effective imo

very satisfying bonks

[granite meteor]

Greatsword better

[woeful flicker]

I switched from GS to heavy mace, heavy mace better

[granite meteor]

I disagree

[neat lava]

In duel heavy mace is surely Op.\

[dire cypress]

yeah, getting close to adding it to the 'no duel' list next to qstaff

the stam bonus it gets + the knight bonus is painful, and then some of the attacks seem to have desync issues

[wide swan]

yall sleepin on war club tbh

[trail garden]

i beat you in tbb2, wheres my hat!

[vital cliff]

youre bald

[trail garden]

Uncalled for

[vital cliff]

u rite

[rigid snow]

tbb2 didnt exitst hat nerd bicj

HA

lose to the right person at the right time

[trail garden]

Get me my retroactive hat that i deserve!

[vital cliff]

to cover up that bald head of yours

[rugged radish]

If it beats maul in a stam battle i would agree.

[main notch]

Resolved as of 2.8

[Resolved] Heavy mace is OP now

[rigid snow]

darn fucking tootin