#ARG Discussion
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But yeah, I understand why a lot of the people who like ARGs, like the people who did the SL ARG
Just gave up
On this one
As as of now, there is only like
What
5 people trying now?
When there was 10-11 when it started
The riddle is very simple. I didnāt even write it. Itās based off of one that exists already. You were meant to solve that first. You might have expected it to be far more complex than it really was, and technically skipped a step by brute forcing attempts and trying to make ciphers. You werenāt supposed to go to the url yet. That was originally meant for the second step.
ARG also isnāt meant to be an overnight event or a constant source of entertainment. It lasting over the course of a week or two is intentional. And as Iāve said before, these ARG games are experimental. Seeing what works and what doesnāt. When we launch the full ARG campaign later it will have more people running and planning it than just myself. Youāll likely see a slightly refreshed Area-12 website as well.
I will remind you all: thereās no time limit or rush on this. None of you are rewarded or punished for taking too long or solving it first. No matter what youāre learning more and more tiny secrets and hints of things to come through dialogue and engagement.
If you want a hint for the riddle then consider anything man made that water can move up in.
Water tower?
Pipe
Sprinkler
It is most likely a pipe.
Tube is close
Anyways, yeah I expected most of that. Thats also why I want to make a comprehensive feedback document, not to like say "ur ARG is bad and it sucks11!1!!", but because I know you are just trying stuff out
Thatās totally tubular, Bishop
Slides go down silly
True
Hm
I mean what is a tube that is hidden?
I donāt think weāve brute forced anything this go-around
Iāve very much learned my lesson from the Arly incident
I mean, personally first bit of feedback. I don't think that WHITE thing could qualify was a second step
THAT I ONLY ALLEGEDLY CAUSED
I mean it was there, and we were playing around with number ciphers originally
We just happened to of figured out what to do with the numbers
Which is pretty wild to me. Once you have the riddle answer youāll understand why Iām surprised you found that first
Aqueduct
One of you said the answer in here already and Iāve said it a few times *not today
Those are normally not hidden
Honestly fair, cheers Bishop
Duct
I mean, better question what is hidden behind a toil of man?
I was thinking like vein, but those don't carry water they carry blood
Wordplay ā donāt read into it too hard
Should have seen that coming
Thats one of our issues, we overanalyze
Itās a good detail to catch but not relevant to the riddle
But the observation is correct
Overanalyzing is A6ās downfall :sigh:
||itās occurring to me there is no sigh emoji||

I got that one
If you guys just wish hard enough youāll get it
Wait, shaft?

We all have been talking about the fucking chapter 3 shaft
Iām starting to wonder if maybe just none of you are old enough to know the ancient ways
most likely not
archimedes screw
Conduit is pretty good
I saw we should mute krisp for that one
I meeaaaannnn
Also @hardy ingot Could you pin the riddle in here, so we don't have to go switching to 20000 channels to look at it š
Lmao I was just trying to scroll up to find it
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to see
Everything beneath the stars```
Flume
Flue
Vent spout
thanks
I wish some of us had some admin perms to specifically these chats lol, I get why we don't tho haha
Tbh there is now a perm to pin messages I believe

Someone said the right word in the last 20 minutes
So itās not a āsay it in the chatā thing I assume we need to use it as a password?
Or maybe a link like we tried with the White cipher
Mhm
Now THATS tubular
I mean wait, just to solve this. The hidden "format" in dave's page IS the password format correct?
Iāve given you multiple hints and you know how many characters. Short of handing it to you I canāt do much else
Only eight character one I sent was Aqueduct
Well aqueduct_362 aināt the password
Considering you found Dave before answering the riddle, try to keep your mind in the context of finding Dave

Ignore the format then
Yes sir!
I mean, I bet the format is correct
Else how would we know the amount of characters?
It just has to be something that would relate to how we found dave
I don't think the format is correct, if we are going on the premise that _ is NOT a special character
The answer to the riddle will solve the password but it also isnāt the password
Okay then that solves that issue
So an Aqueduct.
Now how would we get from aqueduct, to the dave page
Also Aqueducts normally don't raise water, (as thus they would need pumps)
So water cannot "rise" in them, unless its flooding I guess
Bishop put the clue in the Lost City of Atlantis
Our task is to invent time travel and prevent Atlantis from flooding
I mean lets quickly just do a bit of smart, bishop said he said the answer a few times in here... So lets just compare what we have said today
To what bishop has said
Smart? Whatās that
tubular Slide Aqueduct Duct Pressure shaft Cistern
Conduit archimedes screw Well Pump Riser Toilet Flume
Flue Chute Standpipe```
Are the words said when bishop says "Someone said the right word in the last 20m"
Wait
Something we all legit just overlooked
Is bishop said we know many characters
Yeah, he's talking about the password. But we aren't looking for the password
True
I mean what one of those would help us to the dave chipher?
Hell if i know but they all have to do with water and were all the words used in the last 20.
Tube is supposedly the closest answer.
tube that is hidden, and links to trying to find dave
To be honest the only thing I can really think of in there is "Riser"
As that kinda makes you think of vertical
Which is how we found the dave page
Is via the vertical characters
Wait guys, I think we are stupid
What is one of the words that we said, that people normally wish into
And what is one of the words that was more commonly used back in the day
Its a fucking well
A wishing well š
Now how that connects to us finding dave, I have no idea
And even better
Something that one of us have said
Now the only issue... Bishop hasn't said deepwell, only well (then again we all have said well)
But deepwell does have eight characters
deepwell is the answer that makes the most sense, and I'm pretty sure we've all thought it
Now we just need to figure out
What the last three things are
As it is not 362, as we all have tried that before...
"why" maybe
Nope
Damn
I mean if we think about finding dave real quick
We have to go back to the email
The email said that archives has all the documentation required
So I guess we could assume we were meant to get into there, before finding dave
True
Plus we know that most archives were moved over to the deepwell
So that makes sense
Then this also makes sense if it is well
As "well" isn't eight characters, but we know that it can be turned into eight letters with "deepwell"
yah
It's funny because myself and spaceman were talking about deepwell last night, I think you were there too
maybe
deepwell also makes sense based on the hints dave got us, I wonder if the song "imagine" got stuck in the data somehow and thats where he heard it from lol
Now better question how the fuck did dave get into the deepwell š
Or what if we look at it on who made the deepwell?
As Dr. Deepwell makes no damn sense
Dr. Carlisle effectively made the deepwell
It could be either tbh
Johanna 5K
We just, dont have the last fuckin 3 characters
Unless they are 362, then we have nothing
@hardy ingot Found the password for facilities.
now we need the passwords for personel and archives
@hardy ingot did we solve the riddle the correct way?
Well, well, well⦠you finally did it. See, that wasnāt so deep, was it?
HAH HAH HAH, sorry, we are really good at overcomplicating things haha
thats mean
Iāll just tell you what order to concern yourself with things:
- Staff
- Archives
You have a few hints for now from Dave. Do your best to examine the clues you have for now, and use those to ask the right questions next time you hear from Dave.
Aye Ser
And congratulations
I did notice as well the hidden hyperlinks on facilities that link to staff and archives like you said
the password for facilities seems to also grant access to staff, but not archives
Lvl 1 grants clearance to the dashboard
Lvl 2 grants access to the staff portal and facilities
Beyond that you need either a direct staff account login or Lvl 3 - 5 clearance
Affimative
I suppose there is nothing further for us to investigate until Dave appears next(?)
Unless we have a staff login somewhere to access either drive or emails
The diagram in facilities is one Bishop posted blurred a while ago
The only doctors that Dave mentioned are Lundkvist and Angelis, so we may be searching for one of their passwords
Well Lundkvist has the title Professor and not Doctor, as thus we most likely are looking for angelis's password
Else it would be "Prof." as that normally the prefaces "Dr." title
In relation to the Deepwell, I have a hunch that it's Carlisle
His name has 8 characters to boot
?
That was used for the password already
deepwell_362
OH
Yeah, sorry. I was asleep when that happened and I'm at work now so I guess I'm a bit outdated
@hardy ingot Also, just want to tell you this as I now believe this is actually a mistake.
The "admin" button on the lvl1 page goes to the incorrect page, going to /admin and not /administration.
I know we aint to the part of getting into admin yet (most likely), but still something I noticed
(I noticed this a long time ago after snooping in the network tab, but I just thought it was irrelevant and we would never gain access to the admin page)
I have also been thinking about some of the random things dave has said with the perspective that we now need someones login.
I believe you seek to immortalize the past in memory. - A person whom wants their work or themselves to be remembered forever.
The years long departed escaped my fingertips - A person who is old
Your heart rate suggests fear. - Someone who scares easily, or is characterized as being scared.
Your left shoe however suggests poor planning. - Someone who generally has bad planning (most likely in "shit's fucked" situations)```
The only person that fits that bill, in my eyes, is Dr. Hugo H. Carlisle
```I believe you seek to immortalize the past in memory. - When Toth was yelling at Carlisle in the 7528 article, she makes it sound like Carlisle will do anything to secure the deepwell as a foundation win (and thus his win).
The years long departed escaped my fingertips - Forde mentioned that he keeps out of "Carlisle's receding hair..." to crius which implies he is decently old.
Your heart rate suggests fear. - In 7528, he legit ran away to a "bolthole"
Your left shoe however suggests poor planning. - But before running away, his plan to solve the breach was to "do nothing," which I count as "poor planning"```
"left shoe" could also be a nod to him literally running away as part of his plan
"Left shoe" could also be a not to the Left side, as in "opposite to the right side". Ethics Committee maybe?
"Untied" could represent something that was unethical?
I mean it could, but where is "untied" from š
Btw, on the map bit, Archives might be in Sublevel 3 (leads to archives pw lock) and Staff/Personnel sector in Sublevel 2(links to staff page)
There are hidden links/dots
On the image
Not ARG important but interesting
Bro idk I'm tired af from my job. I can't even remember the quotes right at this point
Yeah we already found that
Our current guess on what we have to crack is
Zamn ok
Staff (The sign-in)
Then Administration
Which will give us access to Archives
Well also could be the other way around where we get access to archives, but not to L5 archives
Something interesting though, the signin for the personnel page isn't like an offeset of it
It's url is "intruder"
We have to consider that we did this out of order as well, right?
Like, technically our next step was to find where Dave is/was
That is refering to the dave link
Yeah we are still looking for dave
But to get dave, we need access to archives (as the email states)
To get archives we need administration to unlock it
To get administration we need a password
And maybe somewhere int here the testing tab
Who knows
I mean yeah
I always said dave was meant to be the end goal...
Something I dont understand is this image
Why is it on the staff portal
There is nothing in it
The photo was also not even taken nearby where A12 is located
Have you tried playing around with it?
I am going to guess, and this might of been said already but I'm at work, but we still need to figure out how we get from white to the a1z26 cipher properly right?
Key word is properly
Someone did in fact say it, above, oh well
Any news?
Unless you're aware of what's going on, we solved the riddle and have access to staff and facilities
There's as far as we now
west virginia
Blue ridge mountain
Shenandoah riiiver
Life is old there
Older than the trees
Younger than the mountains
Flowing like a breeze
Do you think this is West Virginia's version of Rick Roll?
Wait wha
I guess I really suck at reading or something š
Well that now I can make a guess on why thats there
COUNTRY ROADS! TAKE ME HOME! TO THE PLACE! I BELONG! WEST VIRGINIA! MOUNTAIN MAMA! COUNTRY ROADS! TAKE ME HOME!
Cannot help it every damn time i read West virginia.
5K is ruining my life. At work today someone was saying that something was resonating and my brain immediately went "Resonating > SCP:5K Resonator"
it's working
The sleeper 5Kers are being made
Well anyways, I found where this was taken. It was taken somewhere inside New River Gorge National Park...
Now what that means, ZERO IDEA!
Probably not a whole lot haha
Well then what is the purpose of that image?
As it isn't there for zero reason
It could be decorative, I've already taken a look at the image and it doesn't seem to have anything hidden at the moment
I personally don't think so, I bet its something we are meant to ask dave about
As think about it, that is an offical and professional page
Why would there randomly be a photo of mountains on it?
Thats like opening your email and randomly seeing subway surfers on the side š
It's a picture of sugar Grove where area 12 resides, that's about all I can think of presently, we can ask Dave about it tho, and I'll have another look later
Its nto exactly at sugar grove from what I can tell. But yeah its in the general area
You get the point though
Yeah I do
I'll have a look when I'm actually home, nothing I can do while I'm at work lol
Oh there is nothing in
The image
I checked it like 3 times š
My bet its about where the image is, in which I bet only dave can answer
Indeed
new river gorge national park
oh wait someone already found that
my bad gang!!
They are links to the Personnel Page (SL Two Dot), and the Archive page (SL Three dot)
mb i didnt realize you guys already found them
no harm
All good, contributions are always welcome
Just for further context though, we have basically raided that website form top the bottom. But if you do find something you think is important, still say it
Just incase we didnt find it
i got a random url with a blank page
nothing on it
probably from when they made the website or somethging
Uh, what url?
As if it doesn't just go to a login page, it is 100% something
probably a remnant from the template they used in squarespace
i genuinely don't think it's anything
Not 100% sure, but I believe area-12.org was supposed to be a merch page
So that's probably why that's there
SO THATS WHY THAT WAS THERE
In the page source for all the pages in the site
There is a fucking "cart" to the steam page
Of 5K
I bet that is why that is there
But yeah saying this has the old header and all that, I doubt this is relevant, nice find tho
We'd have to consult Bishop on that, but the old version of the website had a community events page and whatnot
Yeah, it's a remnant of the original site. Nice throwback imo, cool to see that it's still there
the look hyperlink on the dave url will probably work when you guys find the normal way to that url
because i'm pretty sure you got it before you were supposed to from what im reading
From what I think
We got there WAY before we were meant to
But then again on the other hand, that was stupidly simple to figure out
And shouldn't really have been in the first riddle š
If its meant to be the end-game page
I assume you guys already got the weird access denied background
good luck! i was no help but maybe someone else will be
That is from the last ARG that was teasing the discover program
It has the discover program logo hidden in it
yeah the WhA_t_TH_4y-CA_N0T-C one
Yeah
as i said good luck!!!! hope you guys get it, i'll be lurking around here
We'll be seeing you! Stick around, there's much more to be uncovered in these Borderless Confines.
I feel like the passcode for the email or drive has to be one of the doctors righjt?
I personally think it's Hugo Carlise's email
But it could also be Lunkivist or Anglies
As dave said both of them
@hardy ingot I know you had said that we are waiting for Dave, but is there anything we can look for in the meantime? Don't have to reveal what it is, just a simple yes or no. Obviously I understand if you choose to pull a /shrug on us as well but ya know, no harm in asking.
I mean I bet we can figure whom we are meant to "hack" into
As bishop did say dave has given us some hints from when we talked to him before
So I bet a LOT of the random rambling that we thought just meant nothing
Were refering to a person
As we now know, legit nothing dave said was a hint to "well"
Plus further more, I highly doubt bishop would just leave us sitting here if there is literally nothing we can do right now
I mean, it is an ARG, sometimes there are moment of rest between parts if that makes sense
Oh I know, I am just saying even if that is the case
normally there is something small
To figure out
Fair
Now that could be "figure out where the image was taken" or might be "find who you need to gain access to the staff page"
But, I doubt we will be given literally nothing to look over
Lundkvist, Bartolo and Carlisle are likely our options
I personally believe its carlisle
Lundkvist doesn't make sense in this case, as from the dave page it hints we are looking for someone with the title of "Doctor" and lundkvist goes by "Professor"
I bet we might need him later though
True, and though I agree that we may likely look into Carlisle, where is the evidence to support him being who we are looking for
.
Its loose, but its what I made out of some of the things dave said
Hmm, fair enough indeed
Now we just need to figure out what EXACTLY we are looking for
As the login page still just says "access code"
Not like "enter email"
or "enter login"
I have a feeling we will likely need both an email and a login pass
Tbh personally
I think the email login is a red herring, as we are not taken to an email page
we already know sorta how the emails are setup though based on 7528's article
True enough
Which implies cirus, or whoever is doing info security
Has detected us trying to "hack" into the email accounts
And is blocking us
Another path we might need to go on, is testing
As to me personally it just doesn't make sense that it is unused
We know;
We need to get into staff emails
We need to get into archives
To get into archives, we need to get into administration
To get into administration, we most likely need to get into staff emails
Or at least to get into the L5 section of archives, we need to get into administration
Plus also, it just feels werid that "Testing" would be hidden behind "Senior Personnel" (L3)
We should probably hold off on any other things for now bishop himself said we only need to look into Staff and Archives, Admin and Testing probably later
So its most likely some L2 personnel's login
Well, looking in might not be so black and white as that
I have a feeling it's sorta so we don't have another "found the dave page" moment, we'll see
.
Hm
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I just see this as a step
We need to concider
Now if that comes before archives, or after archives
Who knows
Then with testing, it just feels personally odd to me to neglect it. As we know that at some point in time, we need the rest of the pages
So why would testing be exluded?
It might be the end game, where we get access to a testing archive, but I do think we will use it at somepoint
It could be something to look into later, also we've already done stuff with testing technically during the previous ARG, sort of
We'll see
Well further more, I have been thinking about what dave was saying
Dave is being recorded
He cannot move
In a biological research facility, what does that sound like?
To me it sounds like testing
The things he is seeing, might be a reaction to whatever he is being tested on
Seems about right haha
That's what I thought
If we are looking for an email bychance, it likely ends with @a12.scip.net, key word is likely, who knows, I have no leads yet so.
Yeah I already tried some "standard" workplace emails for each of the people we think it is, like Firstname.lastname and all that
I am also now noticing I didn't try them with underscores
Hmm, we need to bypass intruder page methinks
I wonder if our boy Crius has anything hiding for us to find
I'm starting to think that too
As this really makes it feel like the password to the intruder page (and maybe thus the email)
Is not on the website itself
We can't just reset the password š
Then also the breach bunker thing is a bit random on the facilities page tbh
But, does make sense at the same time
But I also think the facilities tab is meant to be a roadmap to show us where to go; as it says we can download map data once we get access to the new areas
Hmmm
Also something else I am thinking, but is stupidly rough.
The image might be the "location" of A12
As it does kinda look possible
But also seems like a decent strech, as I doubt there is a way to actually geolocate that image, unless anyone here is insanely good a geoguesser š
(Or I am just stupid and there is a way to do that)
Another thing I don't really understand
Why is the entrance to A12 redacted to L2 personnel?
All of them went through it
Well, always a chance that they were unconscious when transferred to the site lol
Or bagged
aye
But regardless I do think it is a bit odd
As either way
Even if they were bagged, everyone knows it is the entrance
So what is needing redacting?
great question
Also if that is the location of A12, it 100% isn't literally the location...
Then again I dont know exactly when that national park exactly ends
Hmmm
@hardy ingot
Just wanna ask, is the error that "SAFE" is being refered to as a "Risk Class" here intentional? As "Safe" under ACS is a containment class, not a risk class
The correct "risk class" there would be "Notice" (for the first level)
Yeah, thats what I expected
Maybe the intruder password was the memetic kill agents we found along the way
I mean CRIUS probably would have been helping you still if it werenāt for Krisp
Big burn xD
Ah, right true enough
Damn, you really took that personally
We outta be careful so we don't accidentally put Dave in a boiler or light him on fire lol
I say we just hack the warheads
Solves all our problems
We will know where Dave is, as it wonāt be Area-12
Please do not the area 12
I'm sure we'll be able to safely find him without destroying everything
I call dibs on killing 542, that thing gives me the creeps
how about we dont kill anything except krisp if he manages to kill another ally
A reminder, Dave needs our help, help him help you
And frankly I don't think there is another Arly, I think he's gone
Or he just hates us now
Either or
Wouldnt be a strech saying we legit murdered him
No, Arly is gone, we murdered him, twice might I add, because people were impatient. Arly 12 is very likely not the Arly we know, he is still our buddy, but not our buddy
Still technically arly! š¤
The joke was its still called arly
Fair enough
I mean on the other hand, you could assume that crius or whomever made arly 12.. Programmed it to, you now
Not get fucking murdered?
As such it might on a technicality hate us still
Fair
I do wonder, if we are interns, why would the website label us as intruders
I also wonder if we are even supposed to find an intruder password yet
is there anything for us to do?
Reading this is like watching the D&D players who have given up all sense of their characters and devolve into murder hobo's to solve all their problems.
xD
True
Gnashes teeth like some angry simian OOH OOH AHH AHH! ME THROW KRISP! ME BREAK! OOGA OOGA
xP sorry krisp. We do love you and your skills.
Shrimple, we are hacking into the system
Interns have L1 clearance
(Normally)
So when one somehows gains access to an L2 page, and then attempts to login to said page
Its gonna set off alarms
Then again that also depends on WHAT intern we are
As we might get level 0 (which, I honestly don't think exists here, saying the dashboard to A12 is L1)
We started with L1 clearance
But, you had to login to that page
And you didn't know the password...
Thus you hacked, the L1 page
But yeah it could still be a strech
It also could just be as simple as we are trying to login to someone's account from a "non-secure terminal" š
I mean, there is the testing page
Idk what we would find there, other than maybe like a transcript
That might have something interesting
Once more, bishop has said what to concern ourselves with, meaning it is likely irrelevant at the moment
Also, originally we did find the L1 passcode hidden within text
Now it is anything
Bishop said what we should be conerned into gaining access to, I don't believe he explicitly stated that we needed to be done to gain access
(Correct me if I am wrong)
It could 100% be a pro gamer move to have us trying to crack the intruder page, when we ain't meant to be
He already pulled it once with the riddle š
We were trying to unlock the archives page when we weren't meant to be
But yeah, regardless of what it is
I do believe we have the ability right now to do something
We just, dont know it
I am personally surprised there is nothing hidden in the website itself tbh
The only thing interesting is the mountain photo
@willow flame Okay I have a stupid idea that I want your opinion on
Dave is breached
Would staff go to a breach bunker
For a box
Being missing
(I personally think no)
Probably not, but hey, ya never know
But I just REALLY feel like that is trying to say something
As it just feels random
Something to look into for sure
I mostly don't think they would
Because the main page, doesn't have the "Containment Breach" message on the scroll
Most likely, if there was an actual containment breach "protocol" enacted, the scroll bar would have something similar to what is seen on the screens in-game.
Actually, concidering this, I bet I can make a prediction on what needs what to unlock;
Staff: "Staff Account"
Testing: Level-3
Administration: Level-4
Archives: Level-5
I bet THAT is the order we need to go into to get from A to B
Else it just doesn't make sense saying we only have four things to unlock. The only thing that would break that is if archives is split like the staff page is (where you can unlock it, but not all of it)
So, my best guess on who we need to use (if we need a person for each of them) would be;
-# based on the wiki clearance levels
Staff: Dr. Angelis (Only doctor dave mentioned to us)
L3: Lundkivst (His position requires a lot of information about anomalies, plus he is a department chair. I think that counts as "Senior Personnel")
L4: Forde (He is a site director... And we know he doesn't have any type of L5 clearance, saying he doesn't even know what is going on in SL3.)
L5: Some O5 OR Carlisle (Carlisle we know is working on the vector program, and based on the 7528 article, he also is doing a lot of other crazy shit... that would most likely be in SL3)
But that is also, most likely incorrect I bet the other clearance levels are gonna be a random access code again
And I am once again overanalyzing this shit
Iāll just tell you what order to concern yourself with things:
Staff
Archives
You have a few hints for now from Dave. Do your best to examine the clues you have for now, and use those to ask the right questions next time you hear from Dave.```
I believe we can just relax and alalyze the data we have available from the pages we have access to so we can write up a list of questions for when the time comes.
Really, the only two things I can make out as being 100% important from the website is;
- What is the photo on the staff page intended to be, what does it symbolize?
- What doctor is Dave referring to on the ???? page?
But if we take into consideration what Dave said to us before, that just made zero sense at the time, I then got a few more questions;
- Dave was very adamant on the "left shoe" thing, was this referring to us the ARGians being unplanned, or is he describing whom we need to use to gain access to the staff page?
- He also says a couple of phrases which suggest someone like Carlise being involved in some way, but only via context clues. Unlike Lundkivst and Angelis, which he directly referenced by name.
- Does his description of being an "esteemed agent" refer to himself, or someone else? As the only "agent" we are aware Dave has come into contact with is Souther (Security Chief) from the wiki article. HOWEVER Dave directly states to us that he has never met Souther, and doesn't see them as "helpful." (which implies they are irrelevant)
- Where is "Home?"
- What the dense fuck does Imagine have to do about literally anything we are trying to do? As that 1000% was not a hint for "deepwell."
- Why did Dave imply he is not aware of what Area-12 is, even though he has knowledge of those who work inside Area-12 and some of it's operations.
- What does the deepwell have to do with anything we are doing?
- How did Dave get access to the L2 password, if he himself seems not to know what Area-12 is?
- Was "Poker" a hint, or a joke to deflect stupid questions?
- Again the life old question, why should we be concerned about something, and what are we to be concerned about?
Although just cause there might be a limit on questions, maybe not bother with 7./11. As im pretty sure those were nothing.
With 7, I think he said it a bit to much for it to be nothing
For poker, I do think that is more a "don't ask just see if he does it again" type thing
Maybe put it as a last q then in rating of importance.
Yeah
Plus tbh, if it is like the last time we talked to him
There was no limit on questions, he talked with us until we all got off
True but we do not know that those same parameters will be in effect this time.
He just either ignored or defelected stupid questions, or questions that most likely would give away to much
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I dont see why they would change
Because we got ahead of where we were meant to be. xD
I mean tbh, I don't think that has really given us anything anyways
We have had moments where we were limited with questions and time
The password format and "Dr." were added after we found it
And i loved wasting 1 of those 3 questions last time
xD
I wont do it again i swear.
Yeah tbh that is one thing I kinda hate about having limited questions
If the person running it decides to answer a stupid fucking question
Said by some random ass person who is either just joking around, or knows nothing about what is going on
xD we got 1 of our questions back because of that though.
It just ruins it for everyone
Cause i think it was reaper? was asking silly stuff.
Also when?
Dave only has talked to us once
You forget, this is the second arg
Oh I know
I am just saying Crius/Arly and Dave are two different being, as thus they most likely act differently
So far dave shows that he doesnt have a question limit, so most likely unless we get some major breakthrough and get unstuck he won't limit what we can learn to much
Arly was the same, but then a lockdown or something happened so we had limited time when he appeared
Ah
Thats again, his character as an AI. Just how dave works, I doubt something would be able to stop him from talking to us
Except if someone with a high CRV is trying to find him as well.
Then he becomes limited on time
I mean, not really tbh... A person with a high CRV has the same chance as someone with a low one
They actually would most likely have less of a chance, saying dave is legit helping us find him
So Toth is just plot armor?
Toth most likely doesn't care enough to find dave tbh
No but the point stands that we probably aren't the only ones "looking for dave"
I mean, all of A12 is... But yeah
If toth can, others can. Point im trying to make is that if they want, they could make it a limited timed theme.
100%
I still REALLY feel like we are somehow overlooking something obvious again
In saying that. I would still like to know the reason on the change of Dave's box. :/
@vagrant ginkgo Was the change to Dave's box artistic design or intentional ARG change? š
Bishop said it was a nice observation, but not important
So.... Who knows what that means for lore
I must have missed that msg.
But not important to this arg ig
change? what change?
Dave's an EKIA box, on the website Dave appears as a regular box
Related to the ARG not the wiki
Well actually
He said it wasnt relevant to the riddle, not to the ARG
.
That is what we mean
I mean, you know what would be a stupidly crazy revelation...
What if Dave can just become any cardboard box?
Like how 7528 IS any image that is close enough to its "infosignature"
I can dig it.
World of Dave.
The Dave is a lie
Yes
That 100% was worth spending 4 minutes of my life making
I would read the article about Dave a bit closer.
Also, in regards to some things that seemed like bad clues or irrelevant: chances areā¦they werenāt clues at all. And weāre not relevant. Sometimes these characters are just speaking to you and being who they are. Unless you ask the right things. Not everything they say is a clue. They are reacting to you.
Dave just likes the Beatles
wait did dave say anything about the Beatles
He sang "Imagine" by John Lennon
Yeah but he didn't say anything about the Beetles specifically
I mean, John Lennon is/was a Beatle
I think he's a person but ok
that's what They want you to think
Yeah, I do expect a lot of the things said not to be clues
Like the fire and the child support, I doubt are actually... Helpful
Me: Literally tells you that some info was irrelevant and not a clue. Gives an example of Dave liking the Beatles just because.
ARG Players: this is a clue
This was just poking some fun at the original Dave mission
Thank you Bishop haha
Yeah
its not our fault we are dumb
wait...
I am also now noticing that I said "I do expect" and not "I don't expect"
We're pretty adept now at burning things down.
its now just going to be a pattern that every time Bishop tries to idiot proof the arg we will find something we weren't supposed to yet and or get someone/something killed
It has been a minute since you heard from Dave, now that you mention itā¦
I mean in our defense, the dave page was kinda just
Painted to us
On the first step
Did dave get taped again? Is that why he isnt talkin to us
Shipping delay
Oh I can tell you
We are looking for a password of some kind!
We could ask nicely
Also this ARG is very unrealistic, the admin password isn't "admin"11!1111!1!1!1!1!!!!11!
Crius, could you kindly mark us as not intruders, I promise we are in control, everything is safe.
We just need today's sponsor, NordVPN!
Time to descend into madness once more trying to see if there is an intruder pass
Raid:Show legends*
The real question for this ARG isn't "Whats the password", It's "When can i buy a Dave plushie?"
Oooh. Thinking outside the box now
Maybe I'm onto something, maybe we were right, time to go to sugar grove and find Area-12, I'll find Dave there.
Affray would make millions on that shit
I know for a fact that @upbeat sonnet is waiting for the resonator plushie
YES
I will give you my firstborn
Silence. I will not allow you to speak ill of the Resonator Plushie
Also yeah I dont think the US Government will accept "Dave told me to find him!" as a vaild reason to enter a NSA spybase
Space just pissed himself if he saw that

What
You're luck you were quick with it bishop, I was a second short of saving it
Did I miss something?
pings
Nothing here Spaceman, don't worry about it
I sensed a disturbance
Must've been the wind
Indeed friend, Indeed
Biiiishhhoooooop, how to password
Did you try to replicate dave
So that we can ask him questions
I fear I dunno where to find an EKIA box
IKEA is the closest we have, not quite right
Okay I have been going through what dave has been saying
And knowing we are looking for some sort of login information
I bet our best bet is lundkivst;
He is the ONLY person dave mentioned without being provoked
Bartolo from dave resonding to callie after dave misunderstood a question as a request to go on a date
So most likely a joke
Dave himself literally said Souther wasnt helpful
And that is all the people dave talked about
Now my only issue is the "Dr." hint on dave's ???? page. This is an issue as we know lundkvist most likely doesn't have a PhD based on his conversation with toth in 7555's article.
HOWEVER My best guess if we are looking for lundkivsts password, it is related to toth. As it seems like they are dating, and some people make passwords after loved ones.
yippeeeee, we're descending into madness again
@hardy ingot Can you confirm whether or not we are meant to actually be doing something right now, I have a feeling most of us think that we are supposed to be waiting for something to happen. I know we are supposed to look into Staff first, just curious if it's something we can do now.
Hm. I wouldnāt know. Iād ask Dave butā¦he appears to have left the server. What did you do?
We didn't do anything?? Where did he go??
Why'd he leave, did someone do something they shouldn't of?
We need to find Dave
š¤·āāļø somethings feels different
I am, Investigating.
somethings feels different
But what is it
What is different, what has happened, what are we not seeing
I've check through the website, nothing seems to have changed
Well, that'll be tomorrow nights problem, for now I will be listening in silence
in the image?
Yea
Yeah yeah I saw
one of them at least
Iām just looking for any changes in any of the related articles
generally don't search though people's sandboxes
Yeah thatās my bad
Doubtful, nothing so far has been on the wiki articles
The only change to an article right now would be fixing an error we reported in Daveās
And idk if Gabe has done that yet
What is the most likely thing that has changed
Is it something on this discord or the site?
He hasn't
nothing on the wiki has been updated
Most likely the site
I don't know how we'd find something that changed on this discord
If it was in the discord it'd likely of been an edited message from Dave or something, so it outta be the site
"You feel the world has changed"
Site seems to be down rn for me
has there always been a search bar?
I think so yeah
never saw it before
I dont think it does anythign tho
I think its just a squarespace default or something
yeah site's down for me too
Same here
Yeah they uh
really unfortunate
Most likely accidently deleted something important
Dave got mad and broke the site
Or it's disabled for "maintenance"
We would be getting an unauthorized error in that case
404 implies it doesn't exist
Not that we are not connecting to it, not that we are unauthorized
That it just simply, do not exist
Guess we'll find out later
The pages
On the website
Don't exist, they are not apart of the website
That is why it is saying "The page you are looking for has been moved or deleted."
Don't worry about it
Because it has been moved, or deleted
This is not your first day
š
I'm sure it'll be okay, probably just doing something, I'm sure the Arg isn't over yet, Bishop probably would of nuked us if that was the case
Nah I think they just made a mistake when updating the website
As the homepage is different
You can scroll and see the website footer now
And the password bar's animation feels a bit more "refined"
Or it could just be the website took what bishop said about something being different a bit to seriously
Plot twist: the website is anomalous
I mean, most likely is tbh
Could also be receiving an overhaul, Bishop did mention it might at some point. Again we'll probably find out later
Lot's of possible things going on
I mean, in the case of an overhaul. It would have been done in local browsers, so either two things happened;
- Someone accidently pushed an in-dev build of the website to the live branch of the github (or whatever they are using) (I think this is most likely tbh)
- They are taking down the website for an overhaul (this doesn't make much sense saying that the website doesn't do anything "important")
You could also blame squarespace
So most likely its just an accident and they are just gonna revert it and its gonna be all good
Well I had to try, I did not find dave
lol i tried too
@hardy ingot Just gotta ask...
The website being like this is 100% not intended correct?
-# It really seems like someone accidently pushed an update by accident.
I bet the website is being updated so that there's a button that sends a Resonator Plushie straight to your house
I mean
I meannnn
There be a shop icon
Yeah, what about the Resonator Plushie icon?
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
What is that
Don't worry about it
Don't worry about it
i think im doing somethging wrong
it needs a password when i go to the normal site
not the amnestic password but a real one
The site is likely still down for maintenence
Area 12 website when
Gabriel has the mischief role, we are so cooked
What hell is awaiting us oh almighty Bishop and what have we done to invoke your wrath
Wtf is harry blank here
So here for the morse code ?
whatās this :3
Yeah guys, it is 100% morse code
Saying that the file name
is legit morse.mp4
š
brightness + 2.75x speed
Man I have been trying to decode it going stupidly slow, why didn't I think of that š
i think 2.75 is still slow
Tbh its fast enough to tell apart what is meant to be a character
And what is a space
I doubt the location is relevant
As a lot of A12 looks the same
That could be any hallway
On any sublevel
Sooo I suppose restart means it's time to send all the archives into well, archives I guess and start new ones
Or restart at least the intranet because I suppose they won't be relevant anymore.
Twin what happened while I was taking a history test
How much of the video was analyzed?
why is there no audio in the video, am I tripping?
ah, i didn't notice that
I gotta monitor general and 5K chat for archives now lol
Looking into SCP 3125 is probably a good idea
No way 3125 and 55555 being on the same page is a coincidence
Noted
What page are we talking about?
the actual scp 3125
I am so confused where we got both of those numbers š
Via reading the log that area-12.org gives us after inputting the password "pattern"
youmust_CONSUMEChRIUSCONSUME_change_SILENCEDINFERNOCeONSUMEIPPSWITlCHCONSUMEKRISPKLANKCONSUMEXDREAPpERCONSUME_the_CALCONmSUMEBEISEVEN114CONSUMEODDLYDELTACeONSUMEANbDRONICUSSARKCONSUMEROJuAHELCONSUMEWARdFARE6273CONSdUMECONTEFORCONSUiMEWEAVINGSTEVECeONSUMEDsINKO_path
spells out "help me buddies"
I believe this was used in the first ARG
The previous level 1 clearance code is also in here still, so it's the same
1126273
Yeah that sounds like arly
Saying we killed arly
I dont think that is helpful
That's 7528 with Arly kinda mixed in the background noise
But yeah, that's from the first ARG, likely not as relevant, maybe the password will be buy who knows
Any page is 7528
Ah
Yeah its legit just the 7528 thing
From the game files
I am still also stupidly confused
On what the last thing we were doing dave was about
Like did it just get randomly fucking retconned
Are we still looking for dave, but something just has happened?
Yeah when you used to put in an invalid URL it would bring you to an error page, then redirect to a search page
They pushed an update to disable the search and add 7528 to invalid urls
When you used to used to put in an invaild URL, it would bring you to a "Acccess Code Required" page
The whole website has changed
From what it was
My guess is it was a default error page from whatever template they used to make this
We used to have a facility map, a email system
A secret page with dave on it
Wait @willow flame
Hear me otu
The Dave storyline is either put on hold, retconned or we are taking a new direction
"Intruder"
We kept thinking the intruder was us
7528 has now fucking consumed
The A12 website
Be was the intruder
For the second time š
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I do hope we'll get to sort of continue for where we left off, I was actually really hyped to do email searching and drives, and the direction it was going.
Maybe this is just a new more streamlined route, one can only hope right
Yeah idfk
Oh, found something else
It just seems to much of a drastic change
To be related
I really think they just retconned dave
I don't think you understood what I was getting at
And the text it read at the top is "hereforyou" instead of "Consume"
https://area-12.org/hereforyou
returns a positive status
You don't need to put them in spoilers
NOne of us care for spoilers here
Also we are aware, its from the old ARG's dave page
So yeah tbh
I think the goal is still to find dave
We just kinda have been
Oh, nevermind, hereforyou is universal now, no longer consume
That's still 7528, just not as angry
Well my point is the gif is
Clearly broken
If it is still 7528
š
Then again might just be me
Dunno why it's not working for you
Its blocked by my adblocker
Of fucking course it is
Wait
Guys
Guess what was updated last night
(Faultline if no one can tell)
did anyone look through 3125 or whatever it was i found
Either way, I really do hope our work wasn't all for naught
I will go fuckign insane if we sat for two weeks
To answer a bullshit riddle
And it turns out to have been retconned
I'm not quite sure on that yet, it could be the actual SCP, but it's unlikely since that specific anomaly isn't at area 12
Its a bit odd to be connected in my personal opinion.
As int he 5K lore, we don't hear about antimemetics
Only metamemetics
Might be a red herring
Okay so the only thing
They updated in the faultline document
Was changing Ghasemi to Khosravi
And then back again
Wa
Oh I didnt go back to the current page revision
Yeah I guess they changed CROW's name
Huh
Also why do I feel like I have seen "ŠŠŠ Š”ŠŠ£" somewhere
Regrettably I have to go to work now, if there happens to be any updates or breakthrough's would people kinda notify me the best they can?
Okay this is my first time hearing about this ARG can somebody catch me up on whatās happening
Welcome in welcome in
Right now it seems like thereās been a hard pivot from what we were originally working on in the ARG, with the website we were trying to solve seemingly undergoing major changes
Not too dissimilar to say starting a new chapter in my eyes
There have been a few previous acts of the arg, I joined around act two I think so my knowledge is far limited compared to my friends here
Ah, yeah the Deepwell ARG SCP SL has been finished now and just learned that 5K was doing something similar
Yup! Weāve had this arg going for longer than a year I want to say but I could be wrong
Well, we currently have no idea
Lmao
A few days ago we were attempting to find dave (SCP-6762)
Yeahh
Now it seems that has most likely been randomly retconned and canceled
For this new ARG
Yikes
Potentially
Where it seems that SCP-7528 has (once again) taken over the A12 website
Maybe a reality warping event happened on site?
Or the intruder thing actually meant something
Didn't dave
Say that he didn't know about 7528's containment breach
We are in the breach
That is in the wiki articlef or 7528
Its in 2019
That is what dave was trying to warn us about
Interesting
Thank you Gabriel, I think some of us were very worried everything we just did was for nothing haha