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#ARG Discussion
silver sedge
Yeah ima be honest, I'm just gonna take a break until we get the next hint
As I have literally no more ideas
upbeat sonnet
As I have literally no more ideas
I have one
It's a bit far-fetched, but hear me out
Going off of the "Fluid Mechanics" theory, I've looked into Chapters 3, 6 and 2
The titles are as follows:
3: Integral Relations for a Control Volume
6: Viscous Flow in Ducts
2: Pressure Distribution in a Fluid
Now. We know it's supposed to be something we have all seen.
But we also know that it's not that simple
silver sedge
I am just stupidly confused on where youa re getting fluid mechanics from
upbeat sonnet
The titles of the chapters lead me to believe that this either puts us back on Chapter 3 in-game or in ventilation ducts.
I know it's technically the wrong timeline
silver sedge
I mean
upbeat sonnet
But just how much could Area-12's layout have changed in the span of 1 year?
silver sedge
Ig I might go look around chapter 3
silver sedge
But just how much could Area-12's layout have changed in the span of 1 year?
The layout?
I dont think at all
upbeat sonnet
The prints are there, they're surely not new
silver sedge
The only thing that would change is SL3
upbeat sonnet
SL3?
upbeat sonnet
And everywhere else in the world
But I see your point and I am now kicking myself for not thinking of it
Good idea
silver sedge
Well my point is Area-12 is in a radio quiet zone, so the existance of a radio channel
Would be stupidly obivous as being important
But then again, I dont see how
A radio channel would even work
upbeat sonnet
Well, radio frequencies are exactly that, they're measured in MegaHertz and have a wide scope of range
silver sedge
Well after a bit of googling my only idea is gone
upbeat sonnet
Holy shit
silver sedge
I was thinking the radio channel could be F.M 362
upbeat sonnet
This is one of those "might be something, might be nothing" moments
silver sedge
But that is above what is classified as a FM radio channel
upbeat sonnet
But the term "White Radio" can refer to espionage
upbeat sonnet
FM 362 is also a women's perfume, apparently
upbeat sonnet
lmao
silver sedge
I am still stupidly hung up on how we have seen the answer
Like bishop didn't say we have seen a part to the answer, or the next step
they said we have literally seen the answer but just dont know it yet
full rivet
it's possible the answer is something we've all said as well
which he could very easily check but we can't
silver sedge
it's possible the answer is something we've all said as well
Yeah we could have legit gotten the answer, but just put it in the password wrong
Legit no way of knowing or not
willow flame
Soooo, any new ideas or are we still on square one here
silver sedge
Soooo, any new ideas or are we still on square one here
Square one?
You think we made it to square one?
Man we are still on square negative 1
willow flame
I think we might be descending
willow flame
At this point I feel like I'm just becoming decorative.
silver sedge
At this point I feel like I'm just becoming decorative.
Oh bro I have just decided to wait until the next hint
As we legit have no way to figure anything out right now
willow flame
I shall continue
willow flame
going off previous passwords, it's likely alphanumeric, no capitalized letters, possible special characters such as - and _
willow flame
I think the answer to the riddle is simply just "white" I don't think there's any deeper meaning, unless it's a damned red herring. But what are we missing, what is 362
silver sedge
I think the answer to the riddle is simply just "white" I don't think there's an...
Thats what I was thinking
Plus also FM
silver sedge
white noise
well get brute forcing!
willow flame
Trust me, I've been trying tons of different combo's that I could think of using the information we have
willow flame
I'm gonna archive you
silver sedge
Denied
willow flame
I heard granted from the voice
silver sedge
I heard granted from the voice
willow flame
Already sent through deletions
silver sedge
Denied
willow flame
I wonder if there's a log of all passwords I've tried
silver sedge
What I would do
Is open your network tab
Clear anything in there
And then it will show an error message
Each time you enter into the password field
(If you get it wrong at least)
willow flame
cheers
shadow crescent
How’s it going lads
willow flame
I'm loosing whats left of my sanity- which is very little
shadow crescent
It definitely seems like there’s not much of a direction to go in at this point
willow flame
What is up with the left shoe thing too
I don't get it
Bishop, what is going on in that brain of yours, and can I borrow a braincell?
willow flame
65 tries, 65 fails
If it says find me, maybe then there is a little more than just white, it has to be a location right?
shadow crescent
Which would feel very “in game”-ey
willow flame
Its not gonna be an in game thing, it hasn't been before
willow flame
bishop, can you throw a guy a bone here, I'm not asking for the answer or too much. Just something more to work with or relate, I'm not seeing the hints, I'm not seeing any other answers in the riddle. A password length maybe?
hardy ingot
If you don’t figure it out in the next few days I’ll give you another hint
willow flame
Fair enough, I shall continue trying.
willow flame
Tomorrow is another day.
silent kite
im starting to think we shouldnt have made jokes about getting the house of leaves difficulty
willow flame
I'm telling ya, it's probably not that difficult as we are making it out to be, we just don't have enoug brain power to go around, and we get distracted a lot haha
novel gull
Either not enough, or too much
We tryna think outside the box, but perhaps the answer lies inside.
novel gull
If it says find me, maybe then there is a little more than just white, it has to...
I did think about dave describing something white
Like a sterile white room
Or a white light above him like mentiones before
It could also be white clouds
White for snow?
White noise?
Everything that may hint towards what hes perceiving
As for the 362, Could DNA be an answer to something (from one of those old phones where typing a number for multiple times forms a Letter. In this Case it'd be 3662, but it seems unlikely to just add another 6 to get DNA)
silver sedge
As for the 362, Could DNA be an answer to something (from one of those old phone...
Most likely 362 is a number in the password
As we have to remember its a password
silver sedge
I did think about dave describing something white
He also never mentioned something white, he mentioned something colorful that was constantly folding, but not directly "white"
silver sedge
We tryna think outside the box, but perhaps the answer lies inside.
Most likely, we have thought outside the box and we HAVE the answer
Its just asking the question, which one of our ramblings is
The answer
And how do we format it into a password
upbeat sonnet
Its just asking the question, which one of our ramblings is
Maybe it's all of them. Introducing: The Omega Theory!
(This is a joke btw)
silver sedge
I agree, lets get typign itno that password box!
full rivet
this would be a whole lot easier if we were trying to just solve a riddle instead of getting a password
silver sedge
Yeah
full rivet
it's really annoying to have to try 30 different things to figure out what's right and still not being sure if you actually just skipped over the answer
silver sedge
Like I keep looking at the riddle and the only thing I can think the answer could be is "Scarlet King"
And that MIGHT be the answer, but I have no idea how to turn that into a password
silver sedge
Yeah
I am pretty sure it isn't even the "real" thing the foundation is fighting in 5000
full rivet
It's definitely not
silver sedge
Yeah its only in other stories and just that one random youtube channel that makes shit up for views (cough, SCP Explained, cough)
full rivet
Because if it was it would have to be different from literally every single other interpretation of the Scarlet King whilst simultaneously having basically no connections at all
willow flame
I've tried well over 50 combinations yesterday night. I'm lost
full rivet
Yes, the Scarlet King, the entity that lives in the collective human subconscious and also has no relation to the number 7 or 9
full rivet
you are not the most valuable member of this team
willow flame
Yes
full rivet
besson would solve this shit easy
silver sedge
you are not the most valuable member of this team
Oh no I am 100% in the decorative catagory of dave's rating chart
silver sedge
Then you are not harnessing your inner dave
Dave doesnt know he is a box
Or at least he is gaslighting us into thinking he isnt one
willow flame
I'm gaslighting myself
full rivet
Cal, harness your inner besson
I need to move to france and get a medical certificate
omw
silver sedge
Did any of us ever look into the Useful, Soon to be useful, and decorative thing
Or did we all just ignore it as humor
silver sedge
I mean, dave did give us names
silver sedge
True
My brain just keeps thinking it is like asking who is useful, soon to be useful, and just decorative
silver sedge
I don't think it means one of us 💀
full rivet
?
full rivet
He's separating us into groups
full rivet
that's what that message was
full rivet
reaper stop lurking
silver sedge
But yeah now that I think about it
full rivet
you're creeping me out man
silver sedge
I dont know how you would get a password out of that
lusty vale
reaper stop lurking
no
full rivet
I dont know how you would get a password out of that
thas what i'm sayin
lusty vale
have yalls completed the thing yet
lusty vale
bru
silver sedge
have yalls completed the thing yet
Nope
lusty vale
Yalls gotta hurry up
silver sedge
I mean another idea I had with the numbers, is that they are meant to be like an order of dave's events
But I cant think of litterally anything that would come from that
full rivet
we just gotta give up for a few days i guess
silver sedge
I mean
I had another idea
If you think the first thing dave said to us after the riddle, in fact wasnt a joke
silver sedge
I mean another idea I had with the numbers, is that they are meant to be like an...
Then you could from this idea get that;
Dr. Hugo H. Carlisle = Useful
Dr. Bartolo De Angelis = Soon-to-be-useful
Patricio Salinas = Decorative
Now if that ACTUALLY helps us
¯_(ツ)_/¯
full rivet
Then you could from this idea get that;
Dr. Hugo H. Carlisle = Useful
Dr. Barto...
okay but that was describing us
silver sedge
I mean how do we KNOW that
full rivet
Hello Bishop's Boys. You are an interesting group. I have sorted you into the following groups:
silver sedge
Its an ARG, the lack of a period could mean something theoritically
silver sedge
Hello Bishop's Boys. You are an interesting group. I have sorted you into the fo...
He wouldn't just say
"Yo, if you place something in this order its the answer" 💀
full rivet
okay but that was directly addressed at us
silver sedge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Again, no idea why we are fighting about this. Its better than nothing, plus it explains the numbers
As if we think that the riddle is legit just "WHITE", then the only thing we havent solved are the numbers
full rivet
Again, no idea why we are fighting about this. Its better than nothing, plus it ...
because it really seems like nothing
silver sedge
Well, not trying to sound rude here man... You got any better ideas? 💀
full rivet
where would any of that go towards a password exactly
where would WHITE fit in
where would the riddle fit in
silver sedge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Again, if its a waste of time
Its a waste of time
I just find it better to just look into it instead of just sitting and doing nothing begging for a hint 💀
full rivet
We can actually just wait at this point now
Bishop already said he'll give a hint in a few days
lusty vale
Hello Bishop's Boys. You are an interesting group. I have sorted you into the fo...
"Bishop's Boys" 😭✌️
full rivet
shoot @silent kite
lusty vale
shoot <@691526445087850526>
who tf is that
full rivet
guy who made that name
willow flame
Shoot me while you're at it, I'm the one who made the patch
I'll be trying to solve shit again when I'm home tho
lusty vale
yalls better do it quick, they only gonna drop the roadmap when yalls solve it
silver sedge
yalls better do it quick, they only gonna drop the roadmap when yalls solve it
Well, this is only step 1 most likely!
And we are basically forced to wait a few days until the next hint, as we have tried legit everything dave has said
We have no more ideas other than outlandish ones
full rivet
yalls better do it quick, they only gonna drop the roadmap when yalls solve it
we will solve this phase in 3 months
roadmap dropping after 0.18
lusty vale
silent kite
guy who made that name
thats a bad thing??
full rivet
willow flame
You know, maybe Cal was onto something, maybe it is time for diorite pfp
willow flame
Listening to 529 Chill while losing whats left of my sanity. I will get the password.
Water rises
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to see
Everything beneath the stars
||362||
Hints(?):
Your heart rate suggests fear.
Your left shoe however suggests poor planning
C_A12: does the riddle have something to do with the on-site contingencies?
6762: Yes. But also, no.
Imagine there is no heaven. It's easy if you try. Imagine allll the people
Imagine there is no countriessss. it isn't hard to dooo. nothing to killll or die for. and no religion too.
6762: Maybe you can help me with something else. Have you seen Lundkvist? Nobody I talk to seems to know what I'm talking about. Nevermind.
6762: I want to go home.
6762: Dr. Bartolo De Angelis
6762: It is folding. over. and over.
C_A12: Is it cold?
6762: It is beautiful. You must see it. Please come find me. You must see it. Then...take me home. And I will show you everything.6762: You haven't solved the riddle yet? Well that's a shame.
upbeat sonnet
okay but that was directly addressed at us
"Us"? So you do consider yourself part of A-6?
I knew you'd come around Cal, welcome to the team!
shadow crescent
Everything does not in fact seem under control
novel gull
I don't even think the Scarlet King exists in 5K
Isnt the scarlet king canon in every scp Lore? I thought it was one of those base SCPs that exist everywhere, just if its relevant or not depends on what your looking at. In this case i doubt scarlet king is has any relevance because in the original SCP 5000 article, it was never mentioned, so idk why 5k should.
full rivet
Isnt the scarlet king canon in every scp Lore? I thought it was one of those bas...
No
There's literally nothing that is canon in all of SCP
Not even the existence of the SCP Foundation
The Scarlet King isn't really even that common in most canons either
novel gull
Huh.. guess i was wrong then
Hmmmmmmmm
A colour thats folding?
Isnt.. that what white is? Like every color folding into eachother with the one experiment (irl) that some historic guy did... MAN I CANT REMEMBER
Wasnt it something with a prism?
Hol up
Okay so isaac newton did a Prism experiment in which he split white light into 7 colors
Which is also sun light btw
So.. if it was reversed
Wouldnt it be 7 colors 'folding' into white?
full rivet
combining
novel gull
FUK
full rivet
the folding thing to me sounded like a description of higher dimensional geometry
novel gull
Like 4 dimensional?
full rivet
which is part of the reason I think he was describing ITER-Psi
novel gull
Those 'illusions'
full rivet
Like 4 dimensional?
5th dimensional
novel gull
Huh..
full rivet
iirc
novel gull
which is part of the reason I think he was describing ITER-Psi
Okay i honesrly have to know wtf is iter-psi
I feel so lost with all these words
And i thought i was an SCP exoert bru
full rivet
Okay i honesrly have to know wtf is iter-psi
The inside of SCP-7555
novel gull
Ahh
upbeat sonnet
I love how you neither confirmed nor denied it, Cal
novel gull
But as i read scp 7555, i find nothing that resembles 'folding'
Did yall see the annc yet? Any hints in there perhaps
I looked over it, nothing lol but for the ones who want the date down in the left corner, ill put the brighter pic here
rancid spade
But as i read scp 7555, i find nothing that resembles 'folding'
What if SCP-7555 send Dave to Sirius B
silver sedge
We know Dave isn’t in 7555, he legit said so
novel gull
Uhhhhh... now i have to catch up on what sirius B is
Oh wait is that a dwarf planet?
Im confused, i really shouldnt do this after work
silver sedge
Ima guess he is joking
As that is not at all related to any hints we have
For all we know Dave could be high on LSD
Plus further more, that would require Dave to go into the future…
7555 hasn’t even come to earth yet
rancid spade
Oh wait is that a dwarf planet?
No, Sirius B is the star that SCP-7555 send not organic object that enter it.
rancid spade
7555 hasn’t even come to earth yet
Yeah, that makes sense.
novel gull
Now what was that with the shoe thing dave said?
Surely isnt to just be funny right?
Nvm i guess its just there
full rivet
I love how you neither confirmed nor denied it, Cal
its literally just the name for people who are in this chat
novel gull
Then you could from this idea get that;
Dr. Hugo H. Carlisle = Useful
Dr. Barto...
Are these the only ones that could get into these groups?
One idea might be that how many persons are in useful, soon to be useful and decorative is what the password is?
I dont think so though
A stretch
full rivet
that would take like a month to figure out if thats right so i hope not
full rivet
no idea
silver sedge
Are these the only ones that could get into these groups?
I got that based on the three numbers
silver sedge
Perhaps we went into this with poor planning?
Thats what I think it means
novel gull
May it be referncing us
silver sedge
I think dave was trying to tell us we were looking at it all wrong
novel gull
Well then.. what do you do if you planned something poorly?
full rivet
you plan again
novel gull
Usually what i do when i get something wrong in maths, i scrap the whole idea and start from scratch
silver sedge
I don't think it was a hint, I think it was him legit trying to tell us "Guys, you are looking at it completely wrong"
I think he was trying to tell us about like white
As that is important somehow
But we just overlooked it
novel gull
Or perhaps we looked so much into it that that is exactly what we shouldnt look at?
full rivet
No we didn't notice it before he said that either time
novel gull
Oh
silver sedge
Or perhaps we looked so much into it that that is exactly what we shouldnt look ...
Plus bishop reacted to the message discovering it
So it is important
novel gull
Yea disadvantage to join an arg in the middle of it
silver sedge
Bishop wouldn't trick us saying how stuck we are
full rivet
yes he would
novel gull
Not if he wanted us to continue and master this, right?
You dont tell a student hes almost right although hes completely wrong
full rivet
@wild wigeon solve this
silver sedge
As its in the future
full rivet
give us the password
novel gull
Im also just gonna quickly look at the teaser image
I brightened it, it has nothing except for a clear date in the down left corner
novel gull
Allmighty sir Bishop, grant us a Hint and my life shall be yours!
silver sedge
But there is nothing in it
willow flame
No, don't give us the password, we need information, lets not be lazy here.
full rivet
The only new info we got from that was that the raid started on the 19th
silver sedge
No, don't give us the password, we need information, lets not be lazy here.
Sir we have kinda gotten to the point where we are legit attempting to brute force it 💀
upbeat sonnet
The only new info we got from that was that the raid started on the 19th
How so?
novel gull
So this everything has to be before the 19th
full rivet
So this everything has to be before the 19th
No, this is set a year before the raid
silver sedge
So this everything has to be before the 19th
No, it has to be before the ned of 2019
The site says it is 2019
novel gull
Ok so 365 days before the 19th
willow flame
Sir we have kinda gotten to the point where we are legit attempting to brute for...
I've been brute forcing with some logic based on what we have been given, it's not going so well about 150 attempts in lol
silver sedge
I've been brute forcing with some logic based on what we have been given, it's n...
Man don't you recall me doing 362 failed attempts?
Those werent me just spamming it 💀
novel gull
Brute forcing has no use if you dont do it with some software, and its kind of not fun to do so
silver sedge
Yeah tbh, I have a feeling that there is no password format on the site, to stop brute forcing
novel gull
All we can do is organize and either find something new doing that, or wait until the next hint comes
silver sedge
But it is just making this impossible to do, expecially if we are looking for a password style answer
Like Bob_1234
Instead of jsut a word or phrase
novel gull
If we sort everything we have, we can make space for new info and also have a good overlook of everything
silver sedge
Yeah we've been doing that
@willow flame Legit sat in a VC for like 2 hours last night
novel gull
Poor guy
Hats off for the dedication tho
If i didnt work rn, i would definetly take it on too, every new angle is a new chance
upbeat sonnet
I've hijacked computers at work to keep tabs on the website
novel gull
Wait guys
Water.rises
Hidden.behind.the.toils.of.man
I.dream.of.flight
There.do.I.rise.to..see
Everything.beneath.the.stars
I replaced the Spaces with dots
As you see, 'there do i rise to see' has two dots (spaces) at the end
I didnt change it, check yourself
full rivet
yeah we saw that
novel gull
Is that a mistake?
silver sedge
Is that a mistake?
We honestly think so
I just dont think bishop noticed it yet to fix it
novel gull
Well, in morse codes (if we do _ instead of ..) i get a four
silver sedge
But can you get a code from that
As I doubt the code would just be the same number and then a random 4 💀
silver sedge
Something that keeps annoying me tbh
novel gull
As I doubt the code would just be the same number and then a random 4 💀
Oh pfffff
silver sedge
Bishop didn't say 362
He said 3, 6 and 2
I am still thinking we are NOT meant to be combining the numbers
novel gull
So then what are we sesrching for? Where are these numbers mentioned
silver sedge
Before dave joined
Before the ARG started
Anyways, the only thing I thought the numbers could be used for
full rivet
Well, in morse codes (if we do _ instead of ..) i get a four
not valid morse
silver sedge
Then you could from this idea get that;
Dr. Hugo H. Carlisle = Useful
Dr. Barto...
Is this
novel gull
not valid morse
Why
full rivet
wait nevermind I misread it
full rivet
.
.....
...
...._
...
E5S4S
novel gull
Is that perhaps a password?
Nope
Tried it
'WHITEE5S4S' and 'WHITE_E5S4S' are not it
As well as E5S4S itself
It seems so fitting for a password yet so random
full rivet
willow flame
Also tried a bunch of these with like _ and -
Sorry if that pinged, I don't remember if I disabled it or not so mb
full rivet
i literally just typed you can ping me
willow flame
Valid, some people get really pissy about it so yah haha
silver sedge
Valid, some people get really pissy about it so yah haha
I hate those people
Like bro, if you are sleepign or whatever
Just turn off notifications from discord
novel gull
Ok so we now know that morse might be used across everything?
silver sedge
You dont need to be that cronicly online
novel gull
So we look for every 'mistake' that might be intentional?
full rivet
if thats true imma kms
novel gull
Also thanks calliope for finding the other morse
silver sedge
So guys
Did you try putting the morse code
As the password
Like the actual morse code
novel gull
Ay i can due that, i have the whole log of Dave somewhere and ill try to Dissect each part
silver sedge
Not its translation
novel gull
Like the actual morse code
Unlikely id say
novel gull
Yeah but discord on phone is buggy so im doing that on whatsapp lol
silver sedge
💀
novel gull
Ay, dire situations require dire solutions!
silver sedge
Also for the riddle, another idea I had for it's answer was Circus... But it's context just wouldn't make sense yet if the 7528 breach hasn't happened
silver sedge
How did you come to that?
In the 7528 article, we basically get told that circus isn't an AI. He is just restricted into believing he is one. I don't understand it fully
But he strikes a deal with an anomaly to breach and solve Area-12's incoming EC problem (by just killing everyone EC was gonna harass)
full rivet
Not its translation
./...../.../...._/... doesn't work
full rivet
In the 7528 article, we basically get told that circus isn't an AI. He is just r...
circus
silver sedge
But that being an answer, wouldn't work yet
As the 7528 breach hasn't happened, and thus circus doesn't know he isn't an AI
Then again, other people do know
But idk
full rivet
his name is crius btw
novel gull
Ohhh crius
silver sedge
Its been a long day
novel gull
xD
full rivet
literally on screen at all times when in this chat lmao
silver sedge
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh
full rivet
affray has used morse before but only on one video and in scp-7555
that video was long before the arg
same with 7555
novel gull
Okay so ive so far noticed two rhings
- When it says 'Data Expunged' it works twice, then swtiches to 'Data Data Data - -'
novel gull
Oh so its a mistake then?
willow flame
It was to hide text between that had no importance whatsoever
novel gull
Okay then i guess the second is also irrelevant, as i had thought about how weird it was that every sentence had a dot, or questions mark or similiar at the ending except some sentences
novel gull
It was to hide text between that had no importance whatsoever
Yeah just seemed veryyyy Intentional
full rivet
1. When it says 'Data Expunged' it works twice, then swtiches to 'Data Data Data...
Those logs are written by archivist
It's intentional but he isn't making the ARG
novel gull
Hard to determine whats intentional and unchanged, and what is unintentional/mistake or added
Sorry sir Archivist
silver sedge
Ignore that
I told you it was gonna be confusing!
novel gull
No i think you can keep it there, nice little touch
willow flame
Aye, tis fine, it is what it is, wanted to add some flavor to the archives. But I'll simply keep it as direct information.
silver sedge
It should just be something more clear on why its there
novel gull
And now that i know it, i can Determine whats from Archivist and what isnt (i hope)
silver sedge
Aye, tis fine, it is what it is, wanted to add some flavor to the archives. But ...
Just replace it with like "removed for continuity" or something
novel gull
Wel, then something else
novel gull
Is the elongated words only to make it seem like hes actually singing or humming? Or can it be actually decoded somehow
silver sedge
Like I am pretty sure I am G_A12
silver sedge
Some stuff is just omitted
Mostly yapping abotu the most wild shit ^
Completely unrelated
willow flame
Nothing is from me anymore, it's all just logs of what happened in this chat from people. The archives were made because information started going missing so I keep a transcript of everything I can get my hands on just in case
novel gull
Well ill still try to find some pattern or something
silver sedge
I wonder if bishop has ran out of popcorn yet
silver sedge
Well ill still try to find some pattern or something
Well remember, we have literally seen the answer, but just don't know it yet
Bishop didn't say "we saw the next part to the answer"
novel gull
I wonder if bishop has ran out of popcorn yet
He atleast has two truckloads for this absolute cinema
silver sedge
He said we have legit seen THE answer
full rivet
full rivet
Mostly yapping abotu the most wild shit ^
I think this is the best part
upbeat sonnet
lusty vale
I think this is the best part
Why did he say that😭🙏
silver sedge
Then again he also somehow managed to fumble the coords on the email
To first being the whitehouse
Then some random ass spot in china
full rivet
i think he was using ai to find where it was or something
I don't know how you could physically get that wrong
silver sedge
You could just put it into google and it'll open on google maps 😭
novel gull
Okay one other thing i found
lusty vale
I don't think that guy is a real person
full rivet
i wonder if he still has me blocked
novel gull
Why is 'Find Me' written in capital letters? Like why (F)ind (M)e, and not Find me?
Is that a mistake or....
full rivet
It's in title case and we've tried stuff relating to that already
novel gull
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh PAINNNNNN
silver sedge
Why is 'Find Me' written in capital letters? Like why (F)ind (M)e, and not Find ...
It also doesn't have a period
And I dont think that is a mistake
For that reason
novel gull
True
silver sedge
Dave has fixed all of his grammatical errors
full rivet
FM + whatever password stuff, FM radio, initialisms
silver sedge
BUT that one
silver sedge
FM + whatever password stuff, FM radio, initialisms
Can't be FM radio if we are using 362
novel gull
As i said earlier some sentences have no period even though the sentence before does
silver sedge
Goes outside of what is defined by the US as a "FM radio signal"
full rivet
Can't be FM radio if we are using 362
saying we tried that
novel gull
And its always at the last
silver sedge
Ik just saying
novel gull
Okay i will try and isolate sentences without a period at the end and perhaps find something???
Good idea or nah?
full rivet
i guess
silver sedge
(There isnt any)
full rivet
none of us know what we're doing
marble sigil
I gotta ask this cause idk at this point, but would the schematics of Area 12 have any prevalence with where this image was taken?
The new image I mean
Or am I overthinking it
full rivet
I gotta ask this cause idk at this point, but would the schematics of Area 12 ha...
actually wait
this area is in sublevel 1 in the current game
probably no relevance to the arg but that's interesting
upbeat sonnet
I gotta ask this cause idk at this point, but would the schematics of Area 12 ha...
Yes and no, although you can get a sense for where they would be, you can only "see" it through the sublevels' descriptions
marble sigil
Ok so I wasn't insane
novel gull
Quick thing, i isolated the sentences. Most seem like mistakes
silver sedge
I gotta ask this cause idk at this point, but would the schematics of Area 12 ha...
Also no, that image is taken in the "future"
novel gull
- 'Find Me'
- The Whole riddle has no symbols
- 'No but they Suggest things'
- 'Reagan'
- 'No' (in context of 'Me? No' )
- 'You never asked me before' (in context of Date)
- 'Im flattered, but no'
- 'Lost track of time'
- 'Imagine allll the people'
- 'Dr. Bartolo De Angelis'
- 'You, of course'
- 'Yes' (in context of can you see anything, Dave?)
- 'The years long departed escaped my fingertips'
silver sedge
Yeah most of those seem like mistakes
novel gull
Only Reagan, Dr bartolo whatever, The riddle and 'Find Me' seem relevant for me
novel gull
Dude let me be i got no english skills
silver sedge
Only Reagan, Dr bartolo whatever, The riddle and 'Find Me' seem relevant for me
Reagan was legit just because someone was talking about the white house
I think that is more character building
novel gull
Ah alright...
silver sedge
As he would have never said it if some dude didn't randomly talk about the white house
novel gull
Understandable.
Does the riddle with 'White' perhaps not contribute to the password directly?
Like is it perhaps hinting to something else?
silver sedge
I mean, I thought it was like a hint
To be used as like a crossword
Where you take each line and answer it
But nothing I could think of made ANY sense
willow flame
Note: I've updated the Transcript's for dave a little.
silver sedge
Like "H" doesn't have any good words for it
As me and Po-Bishop (not the real bishop, the fake one) think that if you look at the second line by itself
It's answer would be "Ambition"
But that doesn't start with H, so that just kinda gets rid of the crossword idea
novel gull
Whats does Dave consider as home?
Where is his home? Or what is his home?
He repeats it like 3 times, to take him home
willow flame
He's also mentioned the heart on a few occasions
silver sedge
Okay wait guys
I have a stupid fucking idae
Dave's PFP, that is a new image of dave right?
That doesnt look like the one on his file
novel gull
In his file?
silver sedge
novel gull
No
One is folded ( the file) and one is taped
Taped?
Didnt we hear that before? But i actually see no conenction to that
As he said recordinf
But he did kind of... hesitate ig?
silver sedge
Tbh I dont expect what I am gonna do is gonna work
Because that isn't the og image
Its discord's version of it
Yeah not, plus the image itself is to small
TO hide anything
Its only 32:32
silver sedge
Why is one of our goals to find dave tho?
Bc he will tell us "everything"
novel gull
Ig compulsion
novel gull
Is that confirmed?
silver sedge
It would be werid
If it wasn't
Saying that we got sent that email
Also the coords are irrelevant, they are just the location to A12
Which is already known
And we have already tried them
novel gull
Well
silver sedge
Plus its also on the website itself
novel gull
The email itself seems weird doesnt it?
silver sedge
We have looked through that whole email
novel gull
Like mid sentence saying that hes our friend etc?
silver sedge
Images and all
That is in his file
He cannot "breach" per say, as the director of A12 basically marked him as not being a threat
My bet is the email is just meant to be like an automated response to detecting he isnt in his storage box
Not a "OH FUCK WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE"
novel gull
Tbh, as far as my instincts rake me, it does kinda seem like all of em are on his side?
silver sedge
Well
silver sedge
Wellll
Plus, if you read the article
highlight after each of the notes
There is hidden text from metamemetics
Same with after "Help him help you"
silver sedge
But then again, wait
This doesn't make sense with the timeline
If we knwo its 2019
ITER-Psi and Object 5 don't exist yet
So any compulsion event past 7, could not have happened yet
Which means forde never was influnced to mark dave as not being a threat
novel gull
Also all i can think of reading the notes etc, is that dave influenced more and more people
silver sedge
Also all i can think of reading the notes etc, is that dave influenced more and ...
Well, the notes are not left by dave
novel gull
Ik
novel gull
But they did say they are ruling the waves?
Like in a sense of control over masses of ppl?
silver sedge
Yeah, metamemetics
novel gull
Sooo metamemetics uses dave to use ppl?
silver sedge
Most likely to push their motives, yeah
Like for example, when dave was influcing forde
he got forde to raise the budget on toth's project
novel gull
Yeah saw that
silver sedge
Said project is researching object-5
novel gull
So couldnt Metamemetics be teying to control us too?
silver sedge
Something metamemetics are very interested it, so much that they legit kidnapped lundkvist
novel gull
In perhaps leading Box buddy somewhere where they want him to go?
silver sedge
Because he was gonna flag it as an infohazard
novel gull
Okay so my conclusion would be that metamemetics wants us to find dave and bring him to object5 ig
silver sedge
I mean we could also assume
The breach announcement is also meant to trick people affected by dave
To report him
By basically agreeing with them
As if you are being infulenced by dave, you see him as a friend
novel gull
But how raise money for a project for object 5 if object 5 isnt known to exist at all
silver sedge
But how raise money for a project for object 5 if object 5 isnt known to exist a...
That isnt the issue
novel gull
Like you cant think of something that doesnt exist
silver sedge
This is
Anything past that event, COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED YET
Because that event could not have happened
novel gull
So boxy compelled poor jay to enter Iter psi in this instance
silver sedge
Y e p
silver sedge
Box was left outside the room
novel gull
To.. watch?
novel gull
But boxy cant see can ir
novel gull
Ok this happens --> boxy goes missing --> boxy compells us to find him and bring him to ___
That correct like this?
silver sedge
But further Object 5 legit doesn't even exist on our planet yet 💀
silver sedge
Ok this happens --> boxy goes missing --> boxy compells us to find him and bring...
Well, it depends
Most of the time its more
Box compells someone to do something
Like go on a date, save him from a car crash, etc.
It tricks them into seeing what box wants them to see
novel gull
But further Object 5 legit doesn't even exist on our planet yet 💀
So it does exist in area 12 at the time of the raid
silver sedge
What raid
novel gull
The uhh 5k campagin thingy
silver sedge
Oh that is, FAR in the future
novel gull
It is set in 2020 isnt it?
silver sedge
The only thing that is in-game right now
That we can use in this ARG
Is the discover program
novel gull
I mean the teaser picture
silver sedge
As that cannoincally was started in I believe 2018
novel gull
Pffffffffffffffffff
Uhm.. yeah im out of ideas
Box tell us go find me bring me to ____
silver sedge
I mean the teaser picture
That image was taken on October 19th 2020, so yes
Object 5 existed
novel gull
While we tryna get a password for some website
silver sedge
I mean, I personally think that the end goal of this ARG is to find dave
As if we remember that this whole ARG teases the next update
novel gull
And where tf is he supposed to be
silver sedge
Why would we find him right now, so he can tell us "everything?"
That would imply this ARG only has one step
Which it 100% does not
novel gull
Seed are sown?
Dave.. compells? And suddenly everyone who got compelled has some positive outcome??
silver sedge
Seed are sown?
Refering to this
silver sedge
Dave.. compells? And suddenly everyone who got compelled has some positive outco...
I mean, if we look at the numbers real quick again
novel gull
Kill meeeeee
silver sedge
And then apply them to the events
novel gull
Yuh?
silver sedge
3 = If he thinks he's stolen it, he thinks it's true.
6 = He could not see what we'd done to them. None will.
2 = Secret secure, modifications made.
Now idfk what that could mean
novel gull
4?
silver sedge
But that is also how I got the "useful, soon-to-be-useful, and decorative" list
"You'll need it soon. Soon. Soon. Soon. Soon."
Is 4
novel gull
Cptn. Blythe Z. Souther will need her improved shooting skills soon?
silver sedge
Dave said souther is on a wellness retreat and is not important
novel gull
Everything we find is in some way debunkable
silver sedge
Is how the FUCK does dave know Lundkvist
silver sedge
Doubtful
Unless, dave (the personw e are talking to, not the box)
Worked at A12
Or in the foundation
Before becoming a fucking box
Or we also could be talking to someone being compelled by dave maybe
silver sedge
No
novel gull
Like boxy can eventaully turn them into boxy
silver sedge
That is refering to using forde to get that email out
novel gull
Awwww
silver sedge
To make boxy not a threat
novel gull
Ah makes sense now
silver sedge
But, I do think the idea that we are talking to someone being compelled by dave isnt that crazy
silver sedge
We know dave makes people see what he wants them to see, that COULD explain why he is discribing what sounds like a fucking LSD trip
novel gull
Might explain the 'confusion' when boxy said hes being taped and dave kinda hesitated upon the auestion 'you mean someones recording you?'
silver sedge
Yeah
upbeat sonnet
We know dave makes people see what he wants them to see, that COULD explain why ...
I've had a couple of those and I can say that I've never seen anything folding "over and over"
silver sedge
I've had a couple of those and I can say that I've never seen *anything* folding...
💀
But if we are talkign to someone who worked for the foundation
novel gull
He literally typed 'Oh.. uh.. hm? Yes'
upbeat sonnet
But hey, maybe I had a shit batch
silver sedge
The ONE issue I see with my idea
willow flame
"You'll need it soon. Soon. Soon. Soon. Soon."
This line reminds me of "There is troubling news. Troubling news, indeed. Trouble trouble trouble."
silver sedge
How does dave not know what A12 is
BUT ALSO know that A12 has on-site contingencies
novel gull
This line reminds me of "There is troubling news. Troubling news, indeed. Troubl...
5 soons, 5 trouble
silver sedge
Like I was thinking maybe we are talking to a D-Class, as they might not know what A12 is
If they were new
novel gull
BUT ALSO know that A12 has on-site contingencies
You know your in a hospital but dont know which one?
upbeat sonnet
He literally typed 'Oh.. uh.. hm? Yes'
Which implies that that is not what he was refering to
novel gull
Which implies that that is not what he was refering to
So he is being literally taped
silver sedge
Well then again, there is "Area-12" plastered on like every fucking wall in Area-12, so a Class-D would know where he is
upbeat sonnet
So he is being literally taped
We speak in hypotheticals here, but yes, that would be the gist of it
silver sedge
If.... boxy was mistaken to be an actual box?
Dave legit called me crazy
novel gull
Could that be why its saiyng its being taped?
silver sedge
When I asked him if the room he was in was made of cardboard
I honestly believe it isn't he is being "taped"
He is just embarrassed
That he is being recorded, and is trapped
novel gull
Recorded how tho?
silver sedge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
novel gull
Who records a box
silver sedge
I don't think they are recording the box
novel gull
Except he meant its taped via text?
silver sedge
I think they are recording the person handling the box
As remember, box cant do anything
Without someone
To take him where he wants to go
novel gull
So that'd mean 'dave' the person is typing, while boxy is embarassed for relying on the guy
novel gull
Thats what i meant
silver sedge
The box is a box
It cant have emotions 💀
Its just a box that makes you see things
And believe it is real
novel gull
But
So that'd mean we are talking with both a consciouss person and dave
So then, what is the things dave says and what is the things boxy says
novel gull
Typing with bro
Dont take everything literally
I mean we are typing with dave, but hes telling us his own aswell as boxys thoughts
silver sedge
I mean, if the box told the dude what to say, I would think he would mention that
silver sedge
I mean we are typing with dave, but hes telling us his own aswell as boxys thoug...
Well the issue with that assessment is that they think the box is a person or person like. So when dave is "talking to them" they think it is a normal coversation. So it would be werid for him not to mention "Dave told me to say this" (We can assume that the dude handling the box's name is NOT dave)
But then again
How the fuck does this help us
Find an answer
full rivet
Well no, I think the person typing
We're talking with Dave
upbeat sonnet
We have seen signs of resistance and attempts at survival throughout Raid on Area-12, but no actual survivors aside from the guards. Although possible, I have my doubts that someone is keeping Dave in a containment chamber or an interrogation room, much less with access to a computer.
full rivet
The text here isn't diagetic
silver sedge
So, why wouldnt he just have the dude
Who let him out
Take him outside
We know its possible
upbeat sonnet
The timeline completely slipped my mind, please disregard my comment
full rivet
Who let him out
silver sedge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I mean then again, yeah maybe if the person who let him out cannot actually leave
full rivet
There could be any number of reasons then
silver sedge
Then he would need a new person
Who can actually leave
The facility
But that also just makes me wonder, why wouldn't he just influence someone he KNOWS can leave
Like blythe again
If he wants to leave
silver sedge
I mean, what can we even access?
We dont even have L2 clearance
He is legit trying to give us L2 clearance
willow flame
Well it's not quite L2 clearance anymore, it's an access code to the archives
full rivet
still l2
silver sedge
Well I had an idea about that
I think it is still L2
I bet, L2 is the upside down triangle
L3 is the split triangle
And the L1 is most likely no triangle, or the warning sign
But either or
Even if dave is trying to get us to help him escape
HOW DOES THAT HELP US FIND THE DAMN PASSWORD 😭
willow flame
I'm just trying to find the hints given in the text we've received from dave, I am struggling
silver sedge
Yeah no we are legit at a brick wall
Oh also something compeltely unrelated to the ARG, that I just found funny
In the page source of all the A12 pages, there is something relating to the 5K store page, most likely a button or handler for one
But it is prefaced with "DUE TO THE ONGOING OMNICIDE AND SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, SHIPMENTS ARE EXPERIENCING UNEXPECTED DELAYS"
willow flame
Huh, interesting
silver sedge
Also another thing I noticed while breaking down the website
The /admin page, does not exist.
While the rest of the pages we access, we just get a 401 Unauthorized error when loading them
The admin page just gives you a 404 error
willow flame
Probably means the page might not actually exist yet
silver sedge
It means it doesnt exist yeah
willow flame
south fractal
Ok. Lets narrow the focus back down to a few things.
The riddle.
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to see
Everything beneath the stars```
Something we have all seen.
*"Everything is under control."* - May not be relevant. Part of updates/leaks. *
My thoughts.
Does it lead to;
The riddle + Something everyone has seen + *Everything is under control* = Password
OR
The riddle = something everyone has seen = *Everything is under control* (*) = Password?I doubt “everything is under control” is a hint, saying that the photo it is prefacing is taken in the future
I think that’s just bishop appeasing the non-ARGians with teasers
south fractal
Good point.
silver sedge
Ok. Lets narrow the focus back down to a few things.
The riddle.
```Water rise...
Also it is the latter, bishop said we have all seen the answer but just don’t know it
Not that we have seen part of the answer
silver sedge
Ok. Lets narrow the focus back down to a few things.
The riddle.
```Water rise...
Well, if we just narrow it down to that, we just get WHITE. Also a riddle that none of us can solve
south fractal
Thats only if we go on the first letter idea. But it is the most evident.
silver sedge
Bishop reacted to the "WHITE" discovery, so it has to be important
I highly doubt bishop would give us a red hearing saying how stuck we are
south fractal
Thats why i think its WHITE + something we have all seen = PW.
silver sedge
Maybe
It would also help if we knew the format of the password we are looking for
Is it just the answer of the riddle
Is it like an actual password like XXXX_12345
Or what
Because I feel like the answer is something that ONE of us discovered or just mentioned
But we just didn't input it into the password correctly
south fractal
I've tried so many combos xD
silver sedge
I'm coming to that conclusion because I know a lot of people have been staring at the dave logs for ages now, with no avail
But tbh, I feel like we should take a break from the riddle and all that
And figure out what 3,6, and 2 is
south fractal
What about Gab's PFP? We've all seen it, and it's an SCP. lol xD
south fractal
I know xD
silver sedge
If he just changed it
south fractal
Just grasping at straws.
silver sedge
Then I would agree, but I doubt it
But I think we should think of things that 3,6, and 2 could go to
As we practically know at this point it isn't meant to be 362, as that has gotten us nowhere this whole time
Okay I have an idea
south fractal
If only there was a 6th line to the riddle.
silver sedge
If only there was a 6th line to the riddle.
Bro just had the same idea as me
south fractal
I was thinking it might've been the order of words to pick.
It was not
Hidden Toils Rises.
silver sedge
We have been trying to figure out what the "Find Me" line is meant to be
What if it is meant to be the first line of the riddle
So in that case, we get what
Hidden behind the toils of man
Everything beneath the stars
Water rises
Which still makes no sense
south fractal
I MAN RISES?
silver sedge
Hidden behind the toils of man
Everything beneath the stars
Water rises
Like this ALMOST makes sense tbh
Its jsut the water rises makes no damn sense
south fractal
Hidden everything water?
silver sedge
Yeah I don't think the numbers are meant to break apart the riddle
The only other thing I can think it could be in relation to is dave's compulsion events
But I dont see how those would help us
I wish we could ask dave
Questions
south fractal
Hahahaa probe the box for answers!
silver sedge
I just want to ask him if he knows cirus
beacuse the riddle COULD be cirus
Then again that would require cirus to know he isnt an AI, which I dont think has happened yet
south fractal
@hardy ingot Is it 362 or 3, 6, 2. Can you at least clarify that for us?
Cause that will at least narrow down how the numbers are used.
silver sedge
Okay so it is POSSIBLE that the answer could be related to cirus because 7528's breach was in 2019
south fractal
I mean, it might have known it before Krisp killed it. xD Dunno if it'll know of 12.
silver sedge
Yeah nevermind I doubt cirus is related
I can't think of how the rest of the riddle would fit into him, only that "hidden behind the toils of man" could relate to the fact that his secret was hidden behind the just craziness of the people who made him
willow flame
I don't need sleep, I need answers
silver sedge
I don't need sleep, I need answers
Well I mean, something we have also never looked into
Is if the answer is related to 7528, as I guess we all just thought that happened in 2020 or something
It happened in november of 2019
But then again also, legit nothing points
Towards 7528
Or legit anything else for that matter
willow flame
stuck in an endless cycle
silver sedge
stuck in an endless cycle
Ouroborus cycle 💀
willow flame
so WHITE and something possibly in this image
Bishop did say that this has good notes
silver sedge
so WHITE and something possibly in this image
"Hidden beyond the general scope of humanity and human life"
"finds not the stars but rather the world beneath them"
@willow flame ^
Again, both things we kinda already knew the meanings of
willow flame
Doesn't hurt to look at tho right, never know
silver sedge
I mean true
willow flame
Aye
willow flame
maybe the passcode is the memetics we found along the way
Where oh where could dave be hiding
willow flame
I wonder, could the password include special characters?
hopefully not because that makes it infinitely more unlikely to find
eheh.
willow flame
Back to it tomorrow. Sleep calls for work.
novel gull
I wonder, could the password include special characters?
WOAHHHHHHHH
Okay we can cross out special characters!
So basically its down to alphanumerical
Is that the hint tho?
Hope its something else towards the actual answer
willow flame
I hope that's not the hint because that only helps a little bit, means we don't have to be as fussy with combinations, but there are still so many possibilities and unknowns.
silver sedge
I hope that's not the hint because that only helps a little bit, means we don't ...
Tbh it doesn't help that much
Like sure we know there are not like underscores and all that, but there still could be spaces
Still could be a phrase and not a word
willow flame
If it was a phrase it would likely ask for a passphrase not passcode
silver sedge
True
willow flame
Now hypothetically going with the same logic, passwords are alphanumeric while passcodes are typically numerical no? Though I'm not sure if it's the same case here because of the riddle
silver sedge
Now hypothetically going with the same logic, passwords are alphanumeric while p...
I mean to be honest, its asking us for a access code, but also at the same a password.
Access Code is normally a number, while a password is normally alphanumeric (unless you suck at making passwords.)
willow flame
I might have something to look into later but I gotta go for now
silver sedge
I might have something to look into later but I gotta go for now
Denied, no work, all SCP:5K!
willow flame
Man I wish haha
silver sedge
I'm just lucky I work from home 90% of the time
upbeat sonnet
Have we tried translating "WHITE" into numbers?
Sound stupidly simple, but I'll give it a try nontheless
Alright, that's not it either
Found something interesting. Sublevel 2 has a Boosted Fission Contingency, as shown in the Area-12 diagram you can find in the Secure Facility Dossier.
Thorium, a Uranium alternative, reaches fission at 36.2 MeVs.
upbeat sonnet
I going insane here
If I do any more research on nuclear fusion and fission I'm afraid I'll end up on a list of some kind
upbeat sonnet
That was a possibility, yes
willow flame
It was never directly stated to be in that order, it's just assumed to be as that's how it was given
silver sedge
Found something interesting. Sublevel 2 has a Boosted Fission Contingency, as sh...
I mean wait, if we are looking for something that is related to contingencies but isn’t one, what about that event that randomly disabled some of the nukes in the cordon
Do we know what that’s about
silver sedge
Also after a bit of thinking, I think we can narrow the "time period" we are in by a bit more
We know its in 2019, but we also can say its before Novemeber 16th, as that is when the 7528 breach happened, and dave doesn't know about the 7528 breach, which means it most likely hasn't happened yet
But then again, that dont help much 😭
sleek lance
Found something interesting. Sublevel 2 has a Boosted Fission Contingency, as sh...
this is like gta fans doing quantum research on gta5 because they're losing their minds waiting for 6 type shit
silver sedge
this is like gta fans doing quantum research on gta5 because they're losing thei...
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Well wasnt it '3,6 and 2' not '362"
it was each number as a seperate message