#ARG Discussion

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full rivet
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he just said that

topaz violet
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I was attempting humor. Please let me know if morale has improved.

full rivet
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typo

marble sigil
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Humor is appreciated Dave 🙂

willow flame
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It has Dave, greatly appreciated

silver sedge
topaz violet
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I appreciate your containment efforts. They are adorable and have been archived.

silver sedge
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We just miss you dave

full rivet
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you're the only one getting archived here buddy

silver sedge
topaz violet
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In here: ❤️

silver sedge
topaz violet
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Your hearts say a lot.

full rivet
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do our hearts harden

topaz violet
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No but they suggest things.

marble sigil
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Like what, Dave?

topaz violet
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Your heart rate suggests fear.
Your left shoe however suggests poor planning.

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The shoe concerns me more.

marble sigil
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How can we ease your concerns?

topaz violet
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You are the ones that should be most concerned.

full rivet
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fix your shoe damnit

silver sedge
topaz violet
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Friends. Hopefully the helpful kind.

marble sigil
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How can we help then? Friends help friends, right?

topaz violet
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Find me. I will always help those who help themselves.

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There is troubling news. Troubling news, indeed. Trouble trouble trouble.

marble sigil
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What's troubling you, Dave?

topaz violet
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I can't talk about it.

marble sigil
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Maybe we can help you with this news when we reach you....are you with someone we know or are you by yourself?

topaz violet
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I don't see anyone at the moment. But I...

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I think someone has been taping me.

marble sigil
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You mean...recording you?

topaz violet
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Oh. Uh ... hm, yes?

full rivet
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are you being tied up right now dave

silver sedge
topaz violet
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No. I don't think so? I just can't seem to move. Something must be wrong. Highly unusual. So embarrassing.

silver sedge
topaz violet
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The same way everyone else does. What a funny question.

silver sedge
topaz violet
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A grown man like myself? An esteemed agent? Unable to walk.

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I'm sure it will pass.

full rivet
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when did you last walk, do you remember?

lusty vale
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what is inside of dave

south fractal
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38.8977 N, 77.0365 W refers to the geographical coordinates for The White House, in Washington, D.C. These coordinates represent the latitude and longitude of its location.

silver sedge
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south fractal
lusty vale
silver sedge
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silver sedge
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It is pretty far away

HXirXg4.png
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From DC

lusty vale
silver sedge
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Anyways I believe we scared away dave

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Oh nevermind

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He still is here

topaz violet
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The Whitehouse is lovely. I've been there!

south fractal
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Yea was a customary google check that i did not actually check. I did a different thing now xD

silver sedge
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topaz violet
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Reagan

full rivet
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You've been around for some time then, why did you decide to visit Area-12 this year?

topaz violet
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Area-what?

silver sedge
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lusty vale
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what does dave even do

topaz violet
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I have a job to do.

lusty vale
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name one thing you have ever done

topaz violet
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Poker. Though I'm not particularly good at it.

silver sedge
lusty vale
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DAVES A FED!?!?

south fractal
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Dave, what is behind the stars?

topaz violet
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I don't know what any of this has to do with poker.

full rivet
silver sedge
lusty vale
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Whens the last time dave payed child support

silver sedge
south fractal
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38°29'16.5"N 79°16'28.0"W my best guess is

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Or close too.

topaz violet
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It's "paid" and I don't have children. Not...not anymore.

silver sedge
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It is in the radio quiet zone, near the NSA Sugar Grove station

south fractal
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No

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Area-12 is supposedly in suger grove.

full rivet
silver sedge
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Dude, legit copy the coordinates from the email into the google search bar

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And it legit shows sugar grove

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💀

full rivet
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that's very clearly not the same coordinates

south fractal
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Put it into a long/lat calc and you get pishan

lusty vale
willow flame
marble sigil
topaz violet
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I'd rather not talk about it...

marble sigil
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That's perfectly fair.

topaz violet
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Nothing has been the same since

silver sedge
topaz violet
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since the fire.

full rivet
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When was the fire?

silver sedge
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Do you have any clues for us, like landmarks you can see?

topaz violet
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You haven't solved the riddle yet? Well that's a shame.

silver sedge
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No, sadly we seem to have a collective braincell count of one.

full rivet
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does the riddle have something to do with the on-site contingencies?

topaz violet
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Yes. But also, no.

south fractal
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Freedom.

marble sigil
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Dave, are...you trying to activate a contingency?

full rivet
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can we infer that means the water part is about one or more of said contingencies, Dave?

south fractal
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He literally asked to solve a riddle. Focus on that.

# 
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to  see 
Everything beneath the stars```
topaz violet
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silver sedge
marble sigil
silver sedge
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The furthest we have gotten is that it is not clouds

south fractal
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You've diverged as i've just finished catching up

full rivet
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Yes, because we're having fun talking to Dave

south fractal
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It's either the sun or the moon

lusty vale
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dave or arly who do yalls got in a fist fight

silver sedge
full rivet
south fractal
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Whale?

topaz violet
lusty vale
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oh yeah daves a box

south fractal
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Ocean.

full rivet
full rivet
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it helps a lot

silver sedge
full rivet
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yeah

lusty vale
marble sigil
silver sedge
full rivet
silver sedge
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Nevermind I didn't see that

full rivet
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He doesn't know the name, or he was deflecting

lusty vale
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wait how is dave typing he doesn't have hands

full rivet
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He can walk too

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Well, used to walk, anyway

silver sedge
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Well, we should get back to the riddle now ig

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Dave wants us to solve it

lusty vale
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was he a normal dude at one point

full rivet
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probably not

marble sigil
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I feel we got at least something out of this-

full rivet
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he refused to answer how he could walk and when he last walked

silver sedge
topaz violet
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Maybe you can help me with something else. Have you seen Lundkvist?

silver sedge
full rivet
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if this was 2020 it would be different

marble sigil
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You're talking about the Object, right?

south fractal
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Do we want to see Lundkvist?

marble sigil
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Object 5.

topaz violet
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Nobody I talk to seems to know what I'm talking about.

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Nevermind.

full rivet
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it's 2019

marble sigil
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Woops, wrong person

silver sedge
full rivet
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what, not who

silver sedge
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The answer is no, we haven't seen him

full rivet
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We don't know clearly

south fractal
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Bjorn.

full rivet
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Yes

silver sedge
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Yeah if it is a what, then we do not know.

lusty vale
topaz violet
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I want to go home.

south fractal
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If we find Lundvisk, can you go home?

lusty vale
silver sedge
lusty vale
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oh

willow flame
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Don't worry Dave. we will ensure you get home.

full rivet
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The doctor may be dealing with the aftermath of 7528's containment breach currently

topaz violet
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What Containment Breach?

south fractal
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Do you know what scares Arly?

full rivet
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I'm unsure myself, it may be the one that we saw/caused/stopped, I kinda forgot, it may be separate.

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What is the current date?

lusty vale
topaz violet
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I don't remember a Containment Breach.

full rivet
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The date, Dave?

topaz violet
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Oh I

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You never asked before

full rivet
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Wait

topaz violet
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I'm flattered, but no

full rivet
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Okay that's not what I meant but that's fine

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What is the current day and month

topaz violet
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I'm embarrassed to say but I seem to have misplaced my watch

full rivet
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bummer

topaz violet
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I've been here a while

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Sort of

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Lost track of time

silver sedge
topaz violet
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Odd question.

silver sedge
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I have many of those.

topaz violet
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Is that a real question?

silver sedge
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That is a real question.

topaz violet
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Be serious. You're just talking nonsense.

silver sedge
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Fair resposne

full rivet
lusty vale
silver sedge
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100% not

topaz violet
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Imagine there is no heaven

full rivet
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done

topaz violet
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It's easy if you try

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Imagine allll the people

south fractal
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Dave, are you in the ocean?

full rivet
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john Lennon!?!?

topaz violet
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Who?

full rivet
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is john lennon in that box right now

silver sedge
lusty vale
topaz violet
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I don't know anyone named John Lennon. The song just sort of came to me.

full rivet
lusty vale
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whats daves last name

full rivet
marble sigil
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Dave, why are you looking for Lundvisk specifically?

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Is there something you need from him?

topaz violet
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@full rivet I was thinking...things may not have worked out between us but I think there's someone for you. In fact, I know just the person.

south fractal
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Dave are you inside 7555?

full rivet
topaz violet
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Dr. Bartolo De Angelis

topaz violet
south fractal
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Dave, is professor Toth with you?

topaz violet
topaz violet
full rivet
south fractal
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Dave can you say who you are with right now?

topaz violet
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You, of course

full rivet
south fractal
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In the physical space with you i should have said.

topaz violet
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I felt as though I did. But I must have been mistaken. It will probably make sense again when you see it.

full rivet
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Can you see anything, Dave?

topaz violet
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Yes

full rivet
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Could you describe the scene around you

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Please

south fractal
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Who is inside of me?

full rivet
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what

silver sedge
lusty vale
topaz violet
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I see...

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it is difficult to describe.

full rivet
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Try your best. I believe in you.

topaz violet
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It is folding

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over

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and over

full rivet
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Is it cold?

topaz violet
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It is beautiful.

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You must see it.

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Please come find me. You must see it.

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Then...

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take me home.

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And I will show you everything.

full rivet
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This was a wonderful chat, Dave. I believe I have a good grasp of where you are.

lusty vale
silver sedge
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lusty vale
silver sedge
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Damn the one article I havent read yet 💀

full rivet
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Though its strange for this time frame

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That happens in 2020

silver sedge
full rivet
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Maybe a change of timeline in-game, meta-wise, or a different timeline lore-wise

full rivet
silver sedge
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It could be another reality

topaz violet
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Imagine there is no countriessss

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it isn't hard to doooo

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nothing to killll or die for

silver sedge
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and he REALLY likes that song

topaz violet
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and no religion too

full rivet
# topaz violet Imagine there is no countriessss

One more thing, Dave; But how is Mneme dreaded by the race,
Who scorn her warnings and despise her grace?
By her unveil'd each horrid crime appears,
Her awful hand a cup of wormwood bears.
Days, years mispent, O what a hell of woe!
Hers the worst tortures that our souls can know.

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Is that at all familiar?

full rivet
topaz violet
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Am I to awake in horror and surprise?

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I believe you seek to immortalize the past in memory.

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The years long departed escaped my fingertips

full rivet
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Yet not sure I understand

topaz violet
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You will.

full rivet
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Right, then.

topaz violet
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I'm still very concerned about your left shoe.

full rivet
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Being told that again feels like it brings me no closer to understanding

topaz violet
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It just makes me uncomfortable, I'm sorry.

willow flame
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Goodnight Dave, thank you for the insight. For helping us to hopefully help you.

topaz violet
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Good luck.

silent kite
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well now im just more confused

south fractal
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Dave, is Cptn. Blythe Z. Souther there with you?

silent kite
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I think Dave is eepin

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the box needs his eep

south fractal
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:/

topaz violet
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I don't actually sleep. I just kind of sit in quiet for a bit and calm my thoughts. Then I feel refreshed and ready to go!

novel gull
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I see this whole arg Chat with people going insane up there, but nobody thought about bringing Tom frol game theory over here? Buddy will have this solved in a day

silent kite
south fractal
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Why not answer my question dave? D:

silent kite
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he likes me better :3

topaz violet
south fractal
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What about Adam Wheeler?

shadow crescent
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Mornin’ yall im awake again

full rivet
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i had him describe where he is already

sleek lance
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freaky pseudospace dimensions scare me

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im outta luck for this one

shadow crescent
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psuedospace yummy

tawdry veldt
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No idea what to do

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I have the website but don’t have any passcode

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Tried finding them a while back but got reminded just now because of the containment breach email

south fractal
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Level 1 code is any random input of numbers. Pick a number and it will work. Lvl 2 code is still unknown (i think) but thats what im presuming we are figuring out, kinda.

silver sedge
full rivet
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I still feel like Dave is in ITER-Psi

silver sedge
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For when we get into the archive

silver sedge
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Also another thing, the website changed again. The formatting is a bit different on level 1 and the level 1 login page is black instead of red

full rivet
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that happened a while ago

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After we got the riddle, I think? It was at some point while talking to Dave.

silver sedge
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Yeah

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I don't think anything else changed, so I bet it is just a QOL thing

upbeat sonnet
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Grab the image and play around with it in an editor if you're so inclined

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But it's never "just because"

silver sedge
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Nothing has changed

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All the same background images

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They just deleted the one behind the level 1 login, leaving it black, and moved around the buttons on the top part of the level 1 page

upbeat sonnet
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Interesting

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Good work tho

silver sedge
# upbeat sonnet Good work tho

I honestly think that the L1 login page was either an error (Like they intended to replace the background but accidently deleted it), or just to make the two login pages look different to avoid confusion on which one we have and have not unlocked.

south fractal
willow flame
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white light

willow flame
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What oh what could the answer be, madness claims me. I shall find out sooner or later though.

willow flame
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Something I'm not sure if others have noticed. the first letters of each line in the riddle spells out the word "white" if read vertically, not my find but figured I'd mention it here to see if that means anything

rancid spade
# willow flame white light

White light, is it somewhat related to the foundation phrase? We die in the dark so that you may live in the light.

willow flame
south fractal
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@topaz violet
Code: White

novel gull
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im still voting on getting game theory on ts

south fractal
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Well we get another crack at it today/tonight. Bishop/Gab are on so Dave should be around soon enough im sure.

silent kite
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maybe if we try to converse with Dave normally we might get some hints

south fractal
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I think we should release the @shadow crescent . XD

hardy ingot
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You have plenty of clues for now

silent kite
full rivet
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We have at least part of the password

silent kite
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i think its more of a potential piece than anything

full rivet
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no it's definitely a piece

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the only instance of the word "white" in the 5k series articles is in "white supremacist," which is kinda funny

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Water rises
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to see
Everything beneath the stars

silent kite
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i wonder if dave thinks we will have a bountiful harvest

silver sedge
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Also just another random thing I noticed, the scrolling text has changed slightly. Now it only says "notify RCF if you see him" instead of if you hear about him

silver sedge
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So I have been thinking about the riddle, this is what I have come up with so far;

Water rises: I still have zero idea what this could mean in any way you look at it...
Hidden behind the toils of man: Hidden in the misery of man
I dream of flight: Wants to be set free
There do I rise to see: Wants to rise to power, like a god?
Everything beneath the stars: Humanity? Humanity hasn't left Earth yet, thus still beneath the stars.

silent kite
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perhaps the water rises portion means nothing

silver sedge
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It is a possiblity it is just there so that AI see it as "cloud"

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As if you look at it in that context, the answer would be cloud or vapor

silent kite
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i agree

full rivet
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Water rises: Boils, evaporates, both? Dave said the on-site contingencies are related to the riddle but also not, all of the contingencies except for the NRD boil water, and the NRD evaporates water.
Hidden behind the toils of man: Since this is coming from Dave, containment
I dream of flight: Wants to leave
There do I rise to see: Has to literally rise to leave?
Everything beneath the stars: Rising to simply look back at the world rather than searching for something higher.

silver sedge
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Thus why he said yes and no

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Most likely, Protocol Foundation is concidered

full rivet
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I did specify on-site

silver sedge
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A contingency

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Which is techincally, on-site in Area-12

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We knwo that sub-level 3 of Area-12 is completely classified as per protocol foundation, and thus most likely is one huge protocol foundation sublevel

silent kite
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yk what its probably the Winter contingency

full rivet
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Protocol Foundation is most likely already underway

full rivet
silver sedge
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We know it is

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Or at least it is just begining

full rivet
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If it's underway it's no longer a contingency

silver sedge
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True

silver sedge
full rivet
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I have been trying a bunch of passwords related to NRD

silver sedge
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Plus also, bishop reacted to the reveal of "White"

silent kite
silver sedge
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So that is clearly something on the right track

full rivet
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It is difficult to describe.
It is folding
over
and over
It is beautiful.
You must see it.
Please come find me. You must see it.
Then...
take me home.
And I will show you everything.

silver sedge
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I mean didn't we already decide that dave is in ITER-Psi

full rivet
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It's all I could think of which is relevant and matches that description, and we know he did end up in ITER-Psi at one point

silver sedge
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Also, we are aware that the dave we talked to, is 100% not the box

full rivet
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?

silver sedge
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Or at least he doesn't know he is a box

silver sedge
full rivet
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Dave is the box

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He convinces people to treat him like a person

silver sedge
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True

silent kite
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dave also comunicates through people in a sense

full rivet
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He's lying

silver sedge
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Well

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he also could not be lying

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He did send someone into psi

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That is who could be talkign to us maybe

full rivet
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Eh

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Doesn't align with what Dave does

silver sedge
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I mean we don't know what dave does

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As dave has some motive, everything he did in his article did SOMETHING to someone, or gave him access to something

full rivet
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He convinces people he needs help, he's never convinced anyone that they are him

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We are talking to someone who clearly believes themself to be Dave

silver sedge
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That implies metamemetics is either controlling dave (saying dave "magically appeared" in A12, maybe they even created dave), or using dave messing around to do things to better their goals

silent kite
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i mean dave does have the tag of "mischief"

silver sedge
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Like the one case where they got someone to steal some classified file from archives, which they most likely did not have access to

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Or getting A12's director to raise the funding on toth's research into object 5

full rivet
silver sedge
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Regardless I still am hesitent on the answer to this riddle being about dave, or about his location

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I feel like the END GOAL of this ARG, is to find dave

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And he will tell us everything he knows then

full rivet
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Actually finding it beautiful of his own volition

silver sedge
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I really feel like bishop is just watching everything we are doing and just constantly facepalming

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We are going all over the place with most likely useless topics 💀

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Plus also something we need to remember, bishop said we have enough hints

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Which means most likely a TON of stuff dave said are hints, that we are looking over

shadow crescent
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I haven’t even done anything

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Yet

silver sedge
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Well saying that we have zero idea at all what the riddle could be

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Even though we have been given plenty of hints

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

silent kite
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i stg krisp if you attempt to kill dave like you did with the original arly

shadow crescent
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I NEVER ATTEMPTED TO KILL ANYONE!!!

silent kite
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LIES

shadow crescent
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Plus if I managed to kill a Keter level anomaly that’s a feat in and of itself

silent kite
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how is that any better

shadow crescent
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I myself would be classified as a Thaumiel class anomaly

silver sedge
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I dont think that will be that much of a feat

shadow crescent
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Aw man

silver sedge
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As keter just means hard to contain, legit nothing else

shadow crescent
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I didn’t know that

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Yeah I know that part

silver sedge
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This would be so much easier, if we had a password format

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Or even a length 💀

novel gull
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Oh shit im late to the party anyway, srry

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Thank you :D

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Funny enough i have no idea what this is about, where the arg starts, and where its supposed to lead.

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Oh no.. reading.. D:

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And your sure there is no 5 min recap video?

full rivet
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there is not

willow flame
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Sadly not

upbeat sonnet
full rivet
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i could make that

novel gull
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I dont have tiktok

full rivet
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will i though probably not

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Im a certified Youtube shorts user (i swear my algorithm is good)

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XD

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I.. can prove it!

full rivet
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no dont

upbeat sonnet
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Regardless, to answer your last question, the ARG doesn't "lead" anywhere, it's a constant, at least as of now

novel gull
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Hmm...

willow flame
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Going of this, to put it simply the Arg is also a way to tease the future of the game in a fun an interactive way, mostly things for the next update but also more than that. Also leads us into insanity

novel gull
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And what are the unanswered questions if i may ask? Reading the past chats kind of confuses me more

novel gull
full rivet
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We're trying to find the level 2 clearance code for area-12.org

upbeat sonnet
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Dave's messages should provide you with all of the information we have right now

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That plus the 5K-related articles on the Wiki

willow flame
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Don't forget 3 6 2

novel gull
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=/

upbeat sonnet
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Ah yes, that too

novel gull
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Anything else?

full rivet
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Main things are: 362 and
Water rises
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to see
Everything beneath the stars

upbeat sonnet
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I mean, you said you didn't like to read

novel gull
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I believe i have enough reading material for a year now. And if i really get into this i will have sticky notes all over my room

upbeat sonnet
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But there's a ton of reading material to be read

full rivet
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everything else is a hint supposedly

novel gull
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Well, if i may ask whats 362? And scp? An article?

full rivet
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It's a number Bishop spelled out

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So no idea

upbeat sonnet
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Yeah, we don't know yet either

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Okay, noted.

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Well, SCP 362 is 100% not what we are searching for.

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Because that scp is a Tshirt.

upbeat sonnet
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Give it a go, The Archivist really puts a lot of work into them, so they're well curated

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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From my.point of view, the only connection between scp 362 and the poem or riddle, may be that the poem or riddle references something old? Like a book? Or an old nursery rhyme or sometjing? Because if it is actually tied to the tshirt, then nostalgia would play a role.

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But, i have no context nor experience so this is just a wild guess

full rivet
novel gull
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Yeah the uhh water rises thingy

full rivet
#

oh

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Imma give it a go with the water rises thingy and how i interpret it

full rivet
#

Dave's description of where he is seems really important to me but I still have no idea how it would fit into the rest of the evidence

upbeat sonnet
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What do you think "Imagine" by John Lennon could have to do with this?

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I'm still ruminating on that

shadow crescent
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That is a wonderful question

full rivet
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That's what I was trying by sending On Recollection

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He did respond to it but didn't say anything about recognizing it, though not in such a way where he was saying he didn't

novel gull
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Water rises = Stress or urgency
Hidden behind the toils of man = maybe something hidden behind humanity, yknow in a psychological way???
I dream of flight = Wants freedom
There do i rise to see = free from perhaps urgency and stress.
Everything beneath the stars = sees the earth and anything on it from a new angle?

Thats my wild guess, also sorry for bad english lulz

upbeat sonnet
full rivet
upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Now i see what you all meant with going insane.

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
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Well can you atleast tell me where to start? There are like 10 logs to check out

upbeat sonnet
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From Crius-7 and up, but @willow flame might be able to shed a better light on the order in which to read them in

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They're all a fairly quick read

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And if you have any questions I'll be around for a bit, but it's a lot easier to explain if you have a bit of context first

novel gull
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I will start there and if i have any problems in putting a correct order or something ill just try to get your help again ;:F

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Wait wtf is that

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What kinda smiley did i put there

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I wanted to do a :D

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XD

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As you can see im already done, my braincells fried

upbeat sonnet
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Ah, it appears 7528 got your smile

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It happens

novel gull
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XD

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Average thursday

upbeat sonnet
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It's a Monday

shadow crescent
novel gull
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Its.. a thursday

upbeat sonnet
shadow crescent
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I thought it was Sunday

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In the year of our lord 1786

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Was that phrase common vernacular used in that time period?

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It might be older

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Maybe 1400s

novel gull
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I.. will sleep now.

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If i have time tomorrow i will read.

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Glad to have found this, FINALLY A PURPOSE TO LIVE!

shadow crescent
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Burdened with glorious purpose

willow flame
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I think the best way to read the logs is 7, 8, 7528, 9, 10, images, 12. Dave is the most current and only one really important for now until further notice

shadow crescent
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Waiting for the part in the ARG where Bishop sends us to the middle of Nevada to find a clue

upbeat sonnet
shadow crescent
full rivet
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We need to all turn our pfps to diorite thats what solved the SL arg

shadow crescent
upbeat sonnet
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The what now?

full rivet
upbeat sonnet
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They had an ARG too?

full rivet
#

It's still ongoing

shadow crescent
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I didn’t know SL had an arg

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I knew that had in game lore and stuff

full rivet
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but act 2 was solved

upbeat sonnet
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Yeah but they don't have Dave

full rivet
#

new scp for sl is almost definitely 953 though

upbeat sonnet
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As a matter of fact, disregard that comment, I don't want to open that can of worms

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Perchance

shadow crescent
#

YOU CANT JUST SAY PERCHANCE

upbeat sonnet
shadow crescent
#

Sims will no longer be prevented from evacuating the building due to band affiliation

full rivet
#

everyone knows mario is cool as fuck

silver sedge
#

Man how did this turn into fucking general chat

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💀

shadow crescent
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I never check general tbh

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This is literally the only channel I check

willow flame
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for real tho, boutta subject everyone to archival and maybe even deletions

shadow crescent
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Hence why I’m clearance level 0

#

NOT AGAIN

full rivet
willow flame
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First time?

full rivet
#

No i've said that alot

silver sedge
# willow flame First time?

Also btw, for the questions dave didn't answer, I would just say no response instead of [DATA EXPUNGED]. Ik its cool sounding, but it is so confusing for someone who doesn't know

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That it is just "Dave ignored u"

full rivet
#

more accurately it would be [EXCLUDED FOR BREVITY]

silver sedge
silver sedge
willow flame
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I could change it, but for now I choose not to, plus I'm not home and I hate discord mobile for editing haha

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I'll be back in a few hours to suffer again

silver sedge
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@hardy ingot Ima just quickly say, good job on this arg so far. You managed to stump the whole 5K community with a single riddle. (This isnt sarcasim or anything, actually good job)

full rivet
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no i don't agree

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i genuinely think bishop is bad at riddles

silver sedge
#

I mean, we all decided that we have one collective braincell

full rivet
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this one is the most interesting but i still can't get over the 0.14 one

silver sedge
#

Soooo

silver sedge
upbeat sonnet
full rivet
# upbeat sonnet Could you remind me of that one, please?

I'm the secret code ▇▇ can't ignore,
Four digits long, I'll leave ▇▇ wanting more.
Divide me by two, what do ▇▇ see?
Half of me remains, but still, I'm key.
Multiply by three, I start to soar,
My power unleashed, I'm more than before.
Add one to me, and I'll shine bright,
▇▇ answer's in me, a numerical delight.

upbeat sonnet
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Ah yes

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That brings back memories

full rivet
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there's really nothing there

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even with the answer

silver sedge
#

That is complete ass

hardy ingot
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in my defense: the first arg was an experiment for me to see how complicated I could make it, and how you would all engage (if at all). I remember also trying to make that one something you couldn't just brute force with chat gpt (not fun) -- and also require participation and additional context clues. so by itself as a standalone riddle, no. but with support from other clues, it should have worked

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I have since lowered the bar of complication for your convenience cal

upbeat sonnet
full rivet
silver sedge
hardy ingot
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they were very discreet. too discreet

silver sedge
hardy ingot
full rivet
#

May we get a hint

silver sedge
#

I mean, it's better than yesn't

hardy ingot
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password or riddle:

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yes

full rivet
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okay so i already knew that

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i didn't really think that was a super important question

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is the number 362 in its original form in the password?

silver sedge
full rivet
#

keyword should

hardy ingot
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you didnt like the last riddle format

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so i changed it

full rivet
upbeat sonnet
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Are you fucking kidding me?

silver sedge
#

So we legit have no idea what the password is

upbeat sonnet
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If this is it I'm nto going in for work tomorrow

full rivet
#

i don't know how helpful that will be

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IS the password the same format

hardy ingot
#

Fact: you've literally seen the answer already. You just don't know it.

silver sedge
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OKAY, that is somethign we can handle

full rivet
#

okay that's kinda how riddles work

hardy ingot
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just making sure, cal ❤️

upbeat sonnet
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Alright, I guess I'm going to work tomorrow

silver sedge
upbeat sonnet
#

But I thought I'd share with you all the same

full rivet
#

the problem is we don't know which thing is it

hardy ingot
#

All I will say is that I know for a fact you have all seen it

silver sedge
#

So that means it most likely is something dave said

full rivet
#

is it the same thing where we just need to find something in the logs to copy

upbeat sonnet
#

Hexadecimal color code #CBF is this sort of blue magenta

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But it could pass for white

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It's a color corrector, not an actual filter

silver sedge
#

Well

full rivet
silver sedge
#

Lets get scanning

upbeat sonnet
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I only know this because I'm a light tech

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But then again, how much does one know if one cannot find the goddamn password

silver sedge
silver sedge
upbeat sonnet
silver sedge
#

Anyways

upbeat sonnet
silver sedge
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Yeah

upbeat sonnet
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My brother

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I'm also a sound tech

silver sedge
#

Back to ze point

hardy ingot
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rude of you to assume they are a man

upbeat sonnet
full rivet
#

brother is gender neutral in this context

hardy ingot
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it most certainly does lol

silver sedge
#

Anyways, we know that it is something we have all seen

hardy ingot
#

broth-her

full rivet
silver sedge
full rivet
silver sedge
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And dave was decently insistent on his left shoe thing

full rivet
#

Bishop were we able to find the password just from the riddle?

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And the number?

hardy ingot
full rivet
#

what

upbeat sonnet
full rivet
upbeat sonnet
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Well, I have to go to sleep because I'm going to work in the morning apparently

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Boy I sure hope the password won't make me stay up all night

full rivet
#

bishop is any of this anywhere near on track or is it all garbage

📎 pass.txt
silver sedge
full rivet
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that was after i stopped keeping track of the passwords I was trying

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i have, though

silver sedge
#

Damn

full rivet
silver sedge
# full rivet

Yeah I tried a bunch of random things dave said, as well as a few combos of white and the numbers

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I have no idea what it could be

sleek lance
south fractal
#

SUSTINANCE!

shadow crescent
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AH

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Wassup y'all

willow flame
#

Soooooo, how we all doing

shadow crescent
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Dead

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I blew up

silver sedge
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But just don't know it yet

willow flame
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Funnn

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I think I remember reading that

willow flame
#

Alrigh, time to spend just about the next 3 hours contemplating this passwrod

novel gull
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To add real quick to the riddle, my biggest thought with that little knowledge and context i have on this arg is that whatever we are doing, we have to speed up perhaps? Yknow the water rises gives me the feeling of we have to speed up or we are gonna be too late to save something or do something I HAVE NO IDEA I SHOULD PROBABLY TALK AFTER READING ALL THE ARCHIVES.

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I will screenshot them and read them while waiting at the barbershop lol

willow flame
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Main Information:
3 6 2 - Hopefully in this order

Water rises
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to see
Everything beneath the stars

Likely hints:

Your heart rate suggests fear
Your left shoe however suggests poor planning - Why?

C_A12: does the riddle have something to do with the on-site contingencies?
6762: Yes. But also, no. - No roses in december?
Imagine - Likely decorative.
Lunkdvisk - ???
ITER-Ψ - ???

MarkedForDeletion How do I retain my sanity? Why? Who are we?MarkedForDeletion

novel gull
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Could hidden behind the toils of man maybe be connected to the SCP 5k lore where the foundation found something while mapping the human... conscioussness i think it was?

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Due to my limited english knowledge i can barely keep up with yall XD

willow flame
#

I don't need sleep, I need answers

novel gull
#

But who was Dave talking to?

willow flame
south fractal
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Who is dave using to talk to us; is the question im curious about.

novel gull
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Can dave possess people?

south fractal
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Not persay

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But people talk for dave.

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"Dave wanted me to do "X"" is usually how it rolls.

novel gull
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Because what ive seen in the logs is him correxting a spelling mistake thats only readable not hearable

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So

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I kinda think it mustve been online right?

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Through typing?

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Or am i dumb again

south fractal
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The box, cannot interact with anything, it's compulsion affect is what makes people do things. If dave wants to leave the containment, the person who breached it will say "Dave wanted me to take him for a walk"

novel gull
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Oh?

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So it 'convinced' someone to type for him then?

willow flame
#

Most likely

novel gull
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As u see there he corrected the payed mistake

#

I HAVE PROOOF YIPPEEE

south fractal
#

Not quite. The compulsion effect makes the person in question believe they are having a conversation. But there is no two-way communication evidence.

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Dave has been on several dates with foundation staff after all.

novel gull
#

So its something like telepathy or hallucination?

south fractal
#

Compulsion

novel gull
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Aha..

south fractal
#

The Need to do something without any explination or reason

novel gull
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What i mean is the talking thing

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If you can talk with him without evidence of him talking

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If i understood your message right...

south fractal
#

Yae

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Yeah*

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A person with 0 tolerance / resistance to the compultion effect could believe they are dave.

willow flame
#

Cognitive Resistance Value(CRV)

south fractal
#

Yeah that

#

Then toth walks in and just kicks the shit out of "It's just a box". xD

novel gull
#

Okay so to recap, Dave talks with us, or compells us, making us Bishops boys?

#

Crius is dead, or just purged but perhaps fragments remain as we saw with crius 8

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But i dont see value in that information yet.

#

Our goal is to find out where dave is? Based on... the riddle with water rises?

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I heard someone mention white light (white because the first letters of the riddle) so i'd guess that maybe dave is in some sterile room with white lights?

willow flame
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ignore the "light" white is the only thing we have to go off of in regards to the riddle so far

novel gull
#

Hmm

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So then perhaps a white room?

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Or white noise that he hears (if he can hear) but that'd be a stretch

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What i could think off is that hes somewhere with water, perhaps water rising, or just some kind of danger for him or us where water rising stands for urgency

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Poor dave man

willow flame
#

how simple this password must be, 3 6 2 and a riddle, so simple, it must be in front of our faces, yet we are blind to see. Bishop must be enjoying this again haha. Oh well, we'll figure it out sooner or later, hopefully the former.

novel gull
#

So wait you persume 362 is part of the password?

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I though perhaps it actually had a connection to the scp XD

willow flame
#

Yeah it doesn't have anything to do with the actual SCP.

novel gull
#

Aww mann

#

Okay so what do we know about the password? The length and all

willow flame
#

We know nothing other than the assumption that it has to do with the riddle, 3 6 2 and the fact we've apparently already seen the answer

novel gull
#

Perhaps the rbg or hexa code to white?

#

Ok no

#

Hex is FFFFFF

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And rgb is 255 255 255

#

I doubt thats it

south fractal
novel gull
#

Ah XD

#

Im so stuck on this ARG

south fractal
#

Bishop's Boy's = ARG nerds

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😛

novel gull
#

My first ever to participate in it (other then the Buckshot roulette ARG but i didnt contribute much)

south fractal
#

There are 6 of us that carry the title "Bishop's boy's" lol. For now ;P

willow flame
#

Alas, tomorrow is another day, and one where I shall once more look into the password. For now I shall sleep

novel gull
#

Good night

#

I hope one day i can earn the title bishops boy

#

For now i shall shower and overthink about this damned password

#

I assume brute forcing is not a canonical answer, right?

willow flame
#

It is preferable to find the password the correct way, last two times we brute forced the password the results were. Undesirable

novel gull
#

Noted.

willow flame
#

And it's better to figure out how we gained the password instead of being random

novel gull
#

Just had a realization (nothing to do with this arg) but the foundation canocally exists in any a lot of dimensions across the multiverse. So if there was a dimension, where minecraft physics was real, then a boat would be the most powerful way of containing an entity, wouldnt it?

upbeat sonnet
novel gull
#

Ok daz crazyyy

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Do they use boats?

full rivet
rancid spade
sleek lance
novel gull
#

No this is a minecraft SCP, what i meant is another seperate Foundation in an alternate universe where minecraft is reality

novel gull
silver sedge
novel gull
#

That i do know

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Thats why i dont play on those servers

sleek lance
novel gull
#

Generally anything thats beyond minecraft physics is janky

novel gull
sleek lance
#

It's REALLY hard to make an scp gamemode so you just rely on players to fill in where the restrictions stop

novel gull
#

Is it something from microsoft

sleek lance
novel gull
#

Oh k

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Then HRP is hard roleplay?

sleek lance
#

Close, high

novel gull
#

Ah, we used to call it serious, semi serious, and soft

sleek lance
#

Something like that

novel gull
#

Well i get what u mean, ive been in a lot of RP servers as part of staff, and if the player base wont participate you cant really do much.

sleek lance
#

Low rp = mostly game and High rp = mostly rp

novel gull
#

+1 Knowledge

sleek lance
#

Ive seen a rare few ultra high rp (informal designation) environments but those were mostly groups on roblox where you gotta like apply for stuff

#

Anyway were going off topic and I should also be going to sleep

novel gull
#

Yeah the SCP roleplays were pretty neat

#

Okay good night!

#

Hope you rest well.

silver sedge
silver sedge
silver sedge
full rivet
#

no idea why metamemetics is writing about it, no idea why its there

silver sedge
#

Yeah no I doubt it is just a dirty bomb if it is all hidden and in the (most likely) most secure part of the facility 💀

#

It 100% does something other than releasing radiation

full rivet
#

The fact there is a dirty bomb in an under construction part of the facility is weird enough

novel gull
#

Could it be some kind of Dead man sequence Warhead?

#

I dont know the context but if its put there by foundies its most likely a failsafe right? So it wouldn be just dirty but actually contain something to keep an scp from getting out (alive)

willow flame
#

I don't think researching into the contingencies too much would help, it was supposedly just a hint

novel gull
#

Ah...

#

I havent gotten further with the Password or where davey is

#

(Yes, Davey)

full rivet
#

David

lusty vale
#

Bro said David

full rivet
lusty vale
marble veldt
#

I heard someone mentioned Diorite.

full rivet
#

YOOOOO

#

#1384769435671330867 message

willow flame
#

???

full rivet
#

they're talking about us in the sl lore server

willow flame
#

Ah

#

4 and a half hours till I begin the descent again

marble veldt
#

Someone there mentioned someone here was talking about Diorite, which was a meme in the SL ARG (Deepwell).

full rivet
#

i was in the call for the start of act 2

silver sedge
#

We are already off-topic enough

#

We dont need diorite

full rivet
#

diorite strictly helps us

silver sedge
#

It 100% wont help us

full rivet
#

no, no

silver sedge
#

😭

full rivet
#

you just don't understand

silver sedge
#

Oh no I do

#

I've seen it first hand

full rivet
#

i lived it

#

it was beautiful

silver sedge
#

My bet the answer was yes and no because it is relivant to protocol foundation, in which the NRD is most likely related

#

You could also see it as concidering protocol foundation as a contengincy in of itself

south fractal
#

@topaz violet What date did you arrive at Area-12?

devout pendant
#

what’s this

silver sedge
silver sedge
#

So me and @south fractal were thinking about things everyone have seen. EVERYONE has seen this teaser image

q3PKHau.png
#

The real question is it just another random message ingame

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or does it actually mean something

south fractal
#

Ok guys, another thought.

What happens when water rises? It Floods. F
Or whatever the possible answer is, take the first letter and it might make a coded msg.

I haven't worked out the other letters but it's a possible avenue.

south fractal
#

From @silver sedge
Just some letter ideas we've come up with.

1TcPvwi.png
silver sedge
#

(We have decided that icraus is not the answer for line 3)

silver sedge
versed dock
#

reminded that this exists because of the email

silver sedge
#

We have looked at legit every pixel on that email

versed dock
#

yeah im reading the dave transcript

#

and im guessing our leads are all here or is there external tomfoolery

willow flame
#

Supposedly should all be here

#

Should all be in the riddle and may include the digits 362. Everything else should be hints

versed dock
silver sedge
#

All we know is that it goes into a password slot

willow flame
#

what if the access code is the friends we made along the way?

silver sedge
#

what if this was all just some intense gaslighting by bishop to see us all go insane?

willow flame
#

class g amnestics?

silver sedge
#

Y e s

willow flame
#

Seems legit

silver sedge
#

Hey guys I got bad news, the password is not "The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start."

HaGIRph.png RsECATv.png
south fractal
#

Might have to do the bishop summoning ritual.

willow flame
#

I believe the almighty chained god has nothing more to offer us. I don't want a direct answer, I think if anything I just want a password length. That is about all I can think of to ask without giving us too much, whether it is alphanumerical or not we should be able to figure out.

south fractal
#

Yeah i would like a parametre. Like i'm assuming the pw is for the ARCHIVES section of the website but no idea on length.

willow flame
#

I believe the website was updated so it's no longer "level 2 password" it is now "access code"

#

But yah, we are tryna get into archives

willow flame
#

Tomorrow shall be another day of research and testing, trial and error

novel gull
#

Wair so SL is... Secret laboratory? They have an ARG too?

#

Man SCP fanbase cooking nowadays

novel gull
#

Sorry caps lock

#

If you continued it with the FAI, the letters would be enough to form 'Failsafe' with the first three letters matching.

#

But i see no connection there yet..

south fractal
#

Water rises = Flood = F
Hidden behind the toils of man = Ambition = A
I dream of flying = Icarus = I
Was our guesses at the time. They could be entirely wrong.

novel gull
#

I know what would make sense in the terms of Failsafe.

#

Thanks to my girlfriend, i managed to find words fitting for the riddle to form 'Fails'

#

But

#

As you see, its not enough for failsafe

#

There is the possibility, if we found more words to decode perhaps. But ultimately if we look at the words you chose, we also have mental meanings.
Flood = Force
Ambition = Desire
Imagination (instead of Icarus) = Spark
My girlfriend said Lofty, i say Lift perhaps in a form of elevator or getting lifted (which would fit if Dave was a box, getting lifted) = Ascent (Perhaps over your own limits)
And lastly i didnt understand this but she said 'scope' meaning... the scope of life? She also said it corresponds to = perspective

#

This is what we made out of it

#

If yall think this might lead somewhere, imma get a dictionary and one of those word finders to search for other possibilities.

silent kite
#

I wonder what people think we sound like from the outside looking in

south fractal
novel gull
#

They'd probably think about us like the detectives in movies who go crazy about the murder of some relative or friend

novel gull
#

Wait have you even tried to use the alphabetic numbers of the word 'White' as a password?

#

It would be about 2389205

#

If i did it right

#

Meanwhile my gf is trying to fill in more words to find possible solutions, We will try every method i have ever heard of. I think in about an hour or more we should have something to try

#

Also the riddle reminds me of the 5K campagin mission where water rises. Theres an Elevator.. hidden behind the toils of man -> perhaps the firefight we have there. But nothing else supports this, and i genuinly doubt dave was in that mission somewhere all along

south fractal
silent kite
#

and sadly nothin

novel gull
#

Aww man

novel gull
#

Can u just tell me which website yall are searching the Password for?

#

So i can binge try some ideas i mightve gotten

south fractal
#

Other than the area-12//Archives section, we've just been disecting dave's logs.

# 
Hidden behind the toils of man
I dream of flight
There do I rise to  see 
Everything beneath the stars```

W
H
I
T
E
#

So we went from there

#

And ended up at crosswords lol.

silver sedge
#

But I personally do think you are a bit overfocused on the contengigency thing

#

Dave said it is related to the contingencies, didn't actually say it WAS a contiengency

silver sedge
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It just doesnt make sense in any way for it to be a password

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But then again it could also be the answer

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But its impossible for us to know at this point because we dont even know what we are looking for

silver sedge
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In every order it can be placed in

silver sedge
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And we know what all but the NRD is, the only thing we know about the NRD is that it releases radiation (presumably) only inside of the main mountain structure (considering the size of A12 and the spread of the other, more explosive failsafes)

silver sedge
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The only thing in-game that has happened so far is the discover program

silver sedge
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Imagine describes a utopia, where there is no countries, no religion, etc.

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Just everyone is happy and there is no violence and all that

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No war, no fighting

willow flame
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Just like what the cure is supposed to do in some sense no?

silver sedge
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Plus I don't think the congengincy hint is the NRD

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As that in itself is an on-site contengincy, so why wouldn't he just say yes?

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I think he is referring Protocol Foundation, which is an contingency to kill all of humanity

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As from the sound of the 7555 article, it isn't something that they just "created" for the new threat they discovered

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It makes it sound like it is something they had a idea about, but never used it

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Also another idea I had

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Eh nevermind

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It wouldnt hcange anything

willow flame
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Either way good notes

full rivet
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I thought a while ago if you take the riddle super literally it could be referring to the prison section

silver sedge
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How could dave be predicting the future

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Nothing we know says dave can predict the future

full rivet
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timeline's already fucked if lundkvist is missing

silver sedge
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I mean we dont know if he is missing

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Dave just said he hasnt seen him in awhile

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He could just be busy

willow flame
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I was about to say that to haha.

silver sedge
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Some people might have not even played the A12 mission

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If it is something to do with the game itself, by bet is that the thing we all have seen

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Is the image you see when first launching the game

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As this is something EVERYONE who owns the game, has seen

tegxrRi.png
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Also yes I know you can find this in the canals

full rivet
silver sedge
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Yeah thats why I think its something dave has said

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Or something we all have seen before

full rivet
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Which means the answer is not directly related to anything there, including the contingencies thing

silver sedge
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Well, my assuption is that bishop meant all of US

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Not everyone, so bishop knows we have read

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most of the 5K articles

full rivet
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I think we're the only people here as of now who have

silver sedge
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Either or, there is nothing in the articles

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Directly

full rivet
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Fear Me is capitalized

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wait

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lmao

silver sedge
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Yeah I saw that

full rivet
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Find Me

silver sedge
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I just cant figure out

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Why

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There is also two spaces before "see" in the riddle

full rivet
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I assumed it was just the title and that was why a while ago

silver sedge
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Well I mean, bishop has edited every message

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That was not grammatically correct

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From dave

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Or whoever is running dave at least

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"Find Me" is not grammatically correct

full rivet
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It is if it's title case

silver sedge
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Exactly

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My point is it isn't just a random thing dave said

full rivet
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no one would ever do that

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for a puzzle

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I hope

silver sedge
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Yeah nah

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It was an idea

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That sucked ass

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We couldnt get past the first two letters

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Its just annoying that we don't have like a password format or even a length

willow flame
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We'll just keep at it till we get it. I still fully believe it is so simple and right in front of us we just can't see it

upbeat sonnet
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Taken from Wikipedia:

Frank M. White (September 26, 1933 – March 12, 2022) was an American engineer and Professor Emeritus of Mechanical and Ocean Engineering at the University of Rhode Island. He was a professor in the Mechanical Engineering department as well as the Ocean Engineering department – which he helped found in 1966 as the first department of Ocean Engineering in the United States. He was the author of the popular engineering textbook "Fluid Mechanics" (now in its 9th edition) as well as three other textbooks on the topics of fluid mechanics and heat transfer.

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F(ind) M(e) WHITE

silver sedge
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If we are looking for a name, it would be in one of the 5K articles

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Its a good idea tho

upbeat sonnet
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Real life? No, I'm not interested in the engineer's name. I'm interested on the concept he wrote on. Fluid Mechanics. The name is a nice coincidence though

silver sedge
upbeat sonnet
silver sedge
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Yeah I still don't really understand where you are getting from by that, but whatever it is can't hurt

upbeat sonnet
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Y'know, I've been labelled has paranoid a couple of times

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But chapters 3, 6 and 2 of Fluid Mechanics kind of spell out a message to me

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Bishop is gonna have a field day with this, I bet

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But fuck it, I'm here for it

novel gull
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What. My brain not brainin