#How will the merge affect things?

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shy summit
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Will everything be put into one big patcher or will I need to make it so I only get some things from one patcher and some from another?

Also what do I do about Wii Mail? The EVC, News and Forecast? I already have WiiLink24

amber salmon
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Everything will be transferred over to the Riiconnect24 services.

delicate crescent
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no that is incorrect

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Wii Mail you will have to repatch with RiiConnect24. Send me your Wii Number then you can run the RiiConnect24 patcher

EVC, News and Forecast will remain the same as RC24 for now

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As in EVC will run RiiConnect24 polls and News will still be RiiConnect24

brittle oyster
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pinned thread moment

pulsar violet
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real!

past saffron
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Leaving this here since it's pinned

brittle oyster
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🤑

steel plinth
delicate crescent
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current rc24 users have to get the wiilink patch for that

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We can’t just switch because there are too many cities

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it would break thousands of consoles

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well break their forecast

pulsar violet
willow lagoon
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I'll repatch

willow lagoon
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Nvm it doesn't works

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Its already registered

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I know i can patch using wiilink then riiconnect24

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Nvm

brave grail
quasi gale
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What do I have to do with my setup I only have riiconnect 24 I don't have Wii Link

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I only have the riiconnect 24 channels will the patcher be updated or something

quasi gale
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Hello?

nocturne mantle
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People who’ve already connected to RC24 don’t have to do anything

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It’s just WiiLink users who have to change stuff

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for the message board at least

raw edge
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(sorry)

quasi gale
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U made my night lol

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@raw edge

shell robin
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I'm assuming that Riiconnect and WiiLink services are going to be merged
will it still be using the Riiconnect24 branding and will i need to repatch channels for it to operate properly (i was using RC24 prior to the merger of development)

amber salmon
steel plinth
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will riiconnect forecast channel be discontinued or will it still be up for use

amber salmon
shell robin
edgy needle
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Question- what is the brand of this development project after the merger, is everything going to be called wiilink or riiconnect24?

edgy needle
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What if it was called RiiLink24?

edgy needle
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Rii and 24 from RiiConnect24, and Link from WiiLink

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A piece of both

steel plinth
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wiiconnect24

amber salmon
pulsar violet
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it was sarcasm bro 😭

edgy needle
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Do you guys think RiiLink24 is a good merged name of both brands?

steel plinth
pulsar violet
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wiiconnect24

steel plinth
worldly shale
pulsar violet
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wiiconnect24 better tbh

amber salmon
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It's already taken by Nintendo

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May I suggest Revolution Live 24?

pulsar violet
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nuh uh

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wiiconnect24

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🐒

stark gale
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😭

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it (kind of) makes sense but

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eh

stark gale
amber salmon
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Wiiconnect24 is already taken by Nintendo, we can't use it.

edgy needle
amber salmon
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Well I don't get it.

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I still think we should call it Revolution Live 24 if we were to rebrand.

brittle oyster
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it should be called wiiconnect24

amber salmon
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And I'll say this again
NINTENDO
ALREADY
OWNS
THAT
NAME

brittle oyster
amber salmon
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Well, I'm sure you've got the whole squad laughing...

stark gale
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its not that funny but still

brittle oyster
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Yeah I know it's not funny anymore but still

edgy needle
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All in favor of the RiiLink24 name?

carmine forge
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RiiLink24 isn't any different, but I'd rather have it sound like WiiLink24

pine brook
amber salmon
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No need, should've already applied. Mine showed NK's status.

brave grail
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Pyongyang was in RiiConnect24 version too. I saw that there are more cities, but I don't know if they are all of them

mortal stirrup
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would there be any harm in running that anyway?

amber salmon
edgy needle
pulsar violet
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whar

past saffron
mortal stirrup
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yeah tbh i like both names of the services

indigo blaze
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Question if somebody is using the new patcher for reconnect 24 will they need a discord account to link their Wii

mortal stirrup
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no

pulsar violet
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How will the merge affect things?

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(i forgor)

brittle oyster
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what would happen if the op of this thread deletes it?

olive canyon
pulsar violet
brittle oyster
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100th message

pulsar violet
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102

pulsar violet
topaz leaf
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How to working riitag channel on vwii?

pulsar violet
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you dont get one

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😹

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rip

brittle oyster
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never saw it

pulsar violet
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no

brittle oyster
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well I never saw it somehow

worldly shale
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Bomb

storm parcel
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make a new thread

limpid finch
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Is it wii to email (pc, etc.) Or wii to wii?

brittle oyster
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make your own thread

pulsar violet
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Gimme frog coins

worldly shale
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I was never book smart

neat dawn
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im money smart

worldly shale
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Makes me more intelligent

limpid depot
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ok to clarify im using Rc24 forecast do i need to switch to wiilink or can i stay?

delicate crescent
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you can stay but you get greatly reduced cities

limpid depot
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ok thx

hoary harbor
# past saffron

That thing from the forecast channel Is wrong. You are using riiconnect24 version if you had it before, and it will not change for you automatically. You have to patch wiilink's one manually of u want it. Riiconnect24 cannot change it because it will brick many wiis if they do that kind of update.

brave grail
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How can the Forecast Channel brick a Wii? (Besides a banner brick, obviously)

hoary harbor
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I don't really know, i'm not really smart.

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But i still have the riiconnect24 version

amber salmon
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Well I have the Riiconnect24 edition, and I'm able to look at NK's weather, so clearly it must have changed

brave grail
amber salmon
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Huh.

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Still, I don't plan on repatching

delicate crescent
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we can't brick your wii

past saffron
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Yeah the WiiLink Wii Bricker 3000 isn't out yet

carmine forge
hoary harbor
brittle oyster
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At worst case the forecast channel would just spit an error if something is not right

hoary harbor
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I misunderstood okay?

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I already told you that I know that i'm dumb and i misunderstood

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@brittle oyster i thought that I readed about it somewhere but once again, i was wrong.

brittle oyster
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ah ok

lucid ginkgo
edgy needle
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@delicate crescent Do you think RiiLink24 would be a good new name for the combined services since the RiiConnect24 name is phased out?

delicate crescent
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no i don't like it

edgy needle
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Fair enough

brave grail
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Why are you all so obsessed with "RiiLink24"?

unkempt scroll
lucid ginkgo
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This image should kill your riilink obsession

stray spear
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What about RWiink24

brittle oyster
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What about calculator24

lucid ginkgo
brittle oyster
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Yea

unkempt scroll
topaz leaf
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I HAVE A IDEA

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Riiwiilink24

neat dawn
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ew

pulsar violet
past saffron
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How about WiiLink 👍

pulsar violet
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WiiLink24

amber salmon
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Its
Already
TAKEN

pulsar violet
amber salmon
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You're not getting me with that joke. It's not funny. Never has, and never will.

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I am dead serious about this.

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This joke has been stretched far too long

pulsar violet
amber salmon
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Do I need to constantly have to do this to every single user here???

pulsar violet
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but yeah it’s unfunni now

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well brand isn’t changing lol

lucid ginkgo
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Mods should lock this thread now

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This is slowly crossing the line

pulsar violet
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no

stray spear
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RWink24

pulsar violet
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no

brave grail
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Stop. Really. It's not funny anymore. It never was.

pulsar violet
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yah

nova nova
late roost
brittle oyster
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Kiwi24 🥝

lofty sapphire
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So,in the end of the merging will we need to repatch some channels?

carmine forge
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Just to think that I was going to buy RiiConnect24 merch.

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from the redbubble

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If the name change happened after/if I bought it, I would've asked for a refund. The only reason I didn't was because I had trouble figuring out how I could get a pop socket on with the case. I encourage everyone who bought RiiConnect24 merch to ask for a refund.

past saffron
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Also the money made from it is not in our possession afaik

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That was a Larsen thing

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We cannot process refunds bro

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The name was held up for vote in the dev server with a majority on WiiLink

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With the hopes of unifying all the services (WiiConnect24, region exclusives and WFC)

carmine forge
past saffron
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I mean I could design it, but that wouldn't mean I'd go out wearing it 😭

carmine forge
past saffron
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Larsen is not a part of the project anymore and KCR was notified

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Beforehand

carmine forge
past saffron
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Overwhelming majority vote

carmine forge
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Mhm

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Alright, well, maybe that vote should've been earlier and decided which Discord server stayed.

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You're changing the name of a Discord server to your old one then having all your members going there.

past saffron
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It has less members

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We gave everyone ample room to switch to this one so it's easier to manage

unkempt scroll
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That's obv gunna annoy people, especially since rc24 been around far longer and is more well known than wiilink (no offence intended)

Also most of the work was and still is hosted/made/maintained by rc24 (giving credit to wiilink making the japenese channels and improvements to the nintendo and news chamnels), but credit is given exclusively to wiilink.. it's kinda a slap in the face to rc24 (again no offence intended)

Obviously I am slightly biased being here from early rc24 days however I still feel like it's been an injustice how it's gone down, in past major things like this have generally gone to a public vote and been on a majority rules basis which also has it's problems don't get me wrong.

past saffron
unkempt scroll
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There's still quite a few things run by I can't say name or message blocked

unkempt scroll
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Which I'm not complaining about just kinda weird

past saffron
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Personally I would've kept both names, but it wasn't up to me

unkempt scroll
past saffron
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Yeah absolutely

mortal stirrup
brittle oyster
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wiilink dlc

opaque magnet
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Hi! So, as of when this merger happened I think, My disc light, where it would flash blue when I got something in the mail, doesn't do that anymore. The light isn't dead, because it lights up with everything else, aka inserting a disc, being on usbloader, etc
and the setting is on in the wii settings
but it stopped working after the merger

worldly shale
nova nova
opaque magnet
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Kinda figured out that the issue is wii mail isn't receiving rn

storm parcel
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you are only contributing

brittle oyster
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but how will the merge affect things

carmine forge
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riiconnect24 is not part of the family, it just is thrown out altogether

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It was better when they had RiiConnect24 as a WiiLink service

past saffron
carmine forge
past saffron
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What

carmine forge
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I do not want a WiiLink24 banner

past saffron
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It is our server

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There's no way to change that

carmine forge
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There wasn't a RiiConnect24 banner

past saffron
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I have new banners designed

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But they haven't been implemented

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Because changing banners is a drag

carmine forge
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Is there a setting I can change to remove the WiiLink banner?

past saffron
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I don't recall there being one no

carmine forge
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I also didn't agree to this TOS when I downloaded the Nintendo Channel off the patcher.

vocal sparrow
brittle oyster
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yeah

carmine forge
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@brittle oyster

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Like what's the point of acting like a company if you're gonna make some people agree to the TOS but not others and enforce it on everyone?

unkempt scroll
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It's essentially by using the service you agree, idk why it's worded weirdly

vocal sparrow
# carmine forge Like what's the point of acting like a company if you're gonna make some people ...

*RiiConnect24's Nintendo Channel having a WiiLink logo on the thumbnail
I think it is the way the Wii Channels are set up, they are updated on the server side until they are updated again. (which explains why Deliveroo still shows on there iirc) When the merge happened it switched some channels from RiiConnect24 to WiiLink automatically without notice.

What is the point of the ToS if it is gonna be ignored?
I don't even know, this is a fan service so expect rough transitions

[Don't have a problem with either by the way]

lucid ginkgo
hoary harbor
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I noticed, that when they made the switch, (i had all riiconnect24 services) , mii contest channel and nintendo channel didn't work anymore properly. Mii contest channel had no contests, and nintendo channel videos weren't working, and just a tiny percent of the videos that was before the switch, was there. I think that those problems haven't been solved at least to this day when i send this message.

hoary harbor
vocal sparrow
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Or well takeover XD

hoary harbor
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No, nintendo channel videos do not work nowadays

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And the staff knows it

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Same with cmoc not having contests

vocal sparrow
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I mean they functioned at the time, the videos on both were buffering every 5 seconds and CMOC had a few contests after the merge iirc

hoary harbor
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Yeah..

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But i just want them to work..

vocal sparrow
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So true XD just make the channels work

brittle oyster
vocal sparrow
carmine forge
# vocal sparrow > **RiiConnect24's Nintendo Channel having a WiiLink logo on the thumbnail* I th...

When you say "switched" are you referring to the RiiConnect24 services using the same server as WiiLink just so you're not paying for two hosting services? I also feel like how a TOS normally works is that there's a pop up that does not allow you to move past it until you agree to it. I realize that this is far fetched for a revival service, but there are many ways WiiLink can force RiiConnect24 users to agree to their TOS.

vocal sparrow
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When I said switched I meant the channels switch from the RiiConnect24 server to the WiiLink server done by someone. The ToS on Wii cannot be shown again after already agreeing so they can't make a new agreement iirc. They could have however sent a Wii Mail letter notifying the users.

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
vocal sparrow
unkempt scroll
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Alot of sites simply state in their TOS that by using the service you agree, and if you don't you will stop using it

vocal sparrow
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and if you don't you will stop using it
What aloz meant is that they switched his chanels without permissions given by another ToS I think

unkempt scroll
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I don't even remember rc24s tos but I'm sure it covered this

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If it didn't then I guess you're right notice should have been given but realistically not required, though maybe in the EU I'm not 100% on their laws but they are alot more strict on digital spaces

vocal sparrow
carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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I think I remember it being on the dns which personally I didn't read lol

carmine forge
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I think it really just potentially allows Wii Sports Resort to use CMOC Miis in Table Tennis.

unkempt scroll
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It used to help connections speed up slightly with wiimfii as well as allow use of the mk channel competition stat's amoung other minor things

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Now it's almost entirely redundant

carmine forge
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But L####n pushed that the DNS allowed RC24 channels in general to have better performance.

unkempt scroll
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Yea I'm not sure why it's even still up

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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Idk the details of it but L did say that it made the connection work better somehow iirc

carmine forge
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He did

unkempt scroll
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But yea he did work with a lot of people from other projects behind the scenes to make these things work

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Drama aside I miss his implementation of improvements

carmine forge
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I did as well

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but I feel like he wanted to take credit for a lot of the stuff he did

unkempt scroll
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Is wiilink not doing the same

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The whole rebrand still bothers me lol cause it went from minimal credits to big a** banners of wiilink everywhere

vocal sparrow
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The big banners with WiiLink are on it's website only, and on Nintendo Channel because they haven't updated the thumbnail

carmine forge
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I think different staff members switch between being the spokesperson. In the early stages, grunt was the main person who was making announcements, but now he's staying down.

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I was not expecting grunt to actually type in here lol

unkempt scroll
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Oh you mean in that regard iirc it was mainly L and kc running it prior

prime rampart
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except now I have much more important shit to deal with in relation to my own life that trumps this community

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I've done my job for the most part

carmine forge
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I mean, the RC24 channel was just him talking. I enjoyed his content, but there wasn't much diversity among the staff.

unkempt scroll
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Occasionally kc would post too, but you're right there wasn't much of anyone else

vocal sparrow
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I wonder what WiiLink will be like after it fully becomes "finished". RiiConnect24 is probably gonna be gone and all RiiConnect24 content is transferred to the WiiLink website and they have their WiiLink WFC ready. Also the channels still in development

carmine forge
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Also, if RC24 had a TOS, there must be a way that WiiLink easily smushed itself in there. When a big company buys a small company, there’s gotta be a sneaky way that they get the data. I'm not saying that's WiiLink, but I'm just making inferences.

vocal sparrow
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When a big company buys a small company
Well not really "bought" but given iirc

unkempt scroll
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Essentially L gave everything to wiilink there's still a few things he runs but for the most part it's them now

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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Still can't imo

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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Everyone steals eachothers code in this scene tbh

vocal sparrow
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XD

unkempt scroll
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It's really arguable if it was even stolen as well

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It's not really different to "stealing" Nintendo's code to recover wc24

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Reverse engineering to be more accurate

vocal sparrow
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I heard someone say that too

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I think they are saying that too add on to bad stuff he has done, But I don't know him.

unkempt scroll
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Honestly i think encouraging mob mentality wasn't the best way to deal with that situation even if it was deleted after the fact

carmine forge
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I do think you have a good point because someone on RC24 likely would've figured that error eventually.

unkempt scroll
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Don't get me wrong he's said some dumb stuff but I don't think he deserves to be treated like an outcast and shunned but that's my opinion

carmine forge
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However, collaboration looks like "hey, how did you fix this" not "I'm gonna figure out how you did this"

unkempt scroll
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Yes even saying his name gets auto moderated

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Technically I don't think we'd even be allowed to have this conversation for "continuing drama" or the like lol

carmine forge
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Why would L####n be helping out with 1 or 2 behind the scenes things if he's banned?

unkempt scroll
unkempt scroll
carmine forge
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Have the staff confirmed that he's banned?

unkempt scroll
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Yes he's 100% banned

carmine forge
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Since the merger?

unkempt scroll
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How long ago was the merger

carmine forge
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Probally December maybe

unkempt scroll
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Iirc he was banned before that idk the details

carmine forge
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Oh really?

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#service-announcements message

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The merge was December 29th

carmine forge
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He was accused of leaking IPs when L####n denies it so evidence should be provided. I never saw evidence or multiple people (from both RC and WiiLink) saying it's true.

unkempt scroll
carmine forge
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Idk why that would be relevant. L####n is a weird dude

unkempt scroll
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Only relevant because I asked if there was any proof, and that's what I was provided with 😅

carmine forge
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Ohh I see. So, his freshman friend buying adult stuff was their proof that IPs were being doxxed?

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Dang, what has this community come to.

unkempt scroll
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That and heresay , Essentially he said she said

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Yep I thought the exact same thing, how does this justify the public mass accusations

carmine forge
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I think this was mostly brought upon by grunt

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I have some responses from him that I'll share

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I think they're pretty reasonable

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here it is

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I had a discussion about what his intentions were and he shared them with me. I think he's trying to warn people, but it also kind of makes it look like it's WiiLink bashing, not the individual.

unkempt scroll
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Yea I don't know, I think it was reasonable to inform people, but provide proof as well

carmine forge
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I think the intention was to shut it down for piracy reasons

unkempt scroll
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Or at the least, speak to them first so they can rectify it first then announce hey this happened

carmine forge
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but that might've been a combination of factors

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I think we take what journalists do pergranted. They are required to speak to both sides before sharing the story.

unkempt scroll
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The announcement imo was very defamatory and accusation heavy

carmine forge
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I agree

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I messaged grunt a lot about recent server changes and he actually started to address them, which I'll give him credit for, but then he stopped responding.

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Speaking of which, I need to respond to his message from earlier

carmine forge
prime rampart
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I mean no disrespect out of any response that I didn't give you but when I say I have a lot on my shoulders right now, I've been struggling

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consequentially responding to people hasn't been my top priority depending on the context

carmine forge
carmine forge
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I was laughing and shocked

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Like why hasn't that been called out?

unkempt scroll
carmine forge
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Like this website is blatantly on the top results of Google

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it's so strange

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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I think because they're not making a profit from it, it's low priority but nintendo are notorious for taking these things down

unkempt scroll
carmine forge
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At the same time L####n's main service that he's known for isn't down.

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but I think that's cause it's been up for awhile

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hard for Nintendo to find

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back when I was first using it, I had to look up a certain tweet to remember what it was

unkempt scroll
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Yea I find that surprising there's literally everything on there

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Though I do know as long as you're not making money from it they're not nearly as harsh and quick to respond

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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There's still a few different projects of that, if they ever come to fruition is another story

carmine forge
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As long as it stays low, Nintendo's not going for it anytime soon

unkempt scroll
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Pretty sure the code for r shop is still out there too so someone may continue it

carmine forge
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lol

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Back when Palworld was released, a bunch of people messaged Nintendo and they were forced to respond.

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so Nintendo does listen

unkempt scroll
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I don't think they have grounds to stand on with palworld

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There's not enough similarities

carmine forge
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Agree

brittle oyster
hoary harbor
vocal sparrow
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the whole point of the project is so it can revive channels

brittle oyster
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what i'm saying is that there are other ways to watch what there is on the nintendo channel

vocal sparrow
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Same for weather, news, and votes XD

carmine forge
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@unkempt scroll Do you think that grunt was a bit manipulative in order to get Dark to shut the project down? Money was made so idk. Maybe he actually would've been in "legal hot water" but if he wasn't making any money, he would've gotten a cease and desist order at the most.

queen pewter
carmine forge
queen pewter
carmine forge
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Yeah, L####n freaked out trying to say what was said was false and I think Dark didn't know what to do and went to the nearest person who could help him.

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Grunt said to me that he was trying to be informative, but he could've chosen to not say the name. I'm sure there was a way of warning people without giving any identifiable information. He's also saying it on behalf of the RiiConnect24 server which doesn't look good for the Wii Online Revival Community.

queen pewter
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Exactly, also the atmosphere isn't the same anymore after the merge

carmine forge
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Yeah. I preferred WiiLink and RiiConnect24 to be in their own separate worlds.

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but it seems like L####n was cool with the merge so it seems like it did end up happening

queen pewter
carmine forge
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I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that didn't see any evidence put forth in terms of the allegations that L####n was leaking console information.

carmine forge
vocal sparrow
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For real

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Just make the channels work

carmine forge
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I feel like they have way too many staff members on

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Like 20 at least

queen pewter
prime rampart
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over a far longer course than the former

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everything that has been done has been with the explicit intent of trying to minimize this childish fucking "drama" that has been going on for years within this place, I would know for how long I've been here, and sometimes we need to pick and choose these things out of principle
one fuckup isn't that big of a strike against my interpretation of someone really

past saffron
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Honestly we should remove the word ban

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The potential for drama is not as high as it was before

prime rampart
past saffron
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It's more annoying than anything

prime rampart
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until a bunch of jackasses decided to embark on a campaign to spend their every waking moment talking about the mf

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much less the people who were attempting to doxx him

past saffron
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Also who the fuck is Nathan Boehm

prime rampart
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yeah I have no idea

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I'm thinking something to do with riishop from the context

prime rampart
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I don't have a problem with removing the word ban but if the talk about them gets excessive or we start seeing sus shit done again
then we probably need to put it back

past saffron
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Sounds good

prime rampart
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this is a very confusing statement

daring anvil
prime rampart
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anyway you can say larsen again

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don't abuse it

vocal sparrow
carmine forge
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Right idea but it’s a more blatant

carmine forge
carmine forge
# past saffron Also who the fuck is Nathan Boehm

So idk how many details I can say. I will delete if you want me to, but basically if you use the right search terms, there will be a site on the top of Google that looks like the regular Wii Shop Channel before it was discontinued. Except, it’s more than that.

carmine forge
# prime rampart because the guy on the latter has done significantly more damage to the overall ...

It would make sense to say that compared to the new person I introduced. Larsen is older than Nathan (I think). Larsen is more well known than Nathan. Your term of “damaged” seems a bit vague, but I found some YouTuber group talking about it. https://youtu.be/_Z828KKKVr0?si=7kuMVNy4Om4iiAwr It is very hard to find the document shown in the video and I had to scroll along to find all the bullet points. According to that video, WiiLink has stated that Larsen has had an obsession in them. Does his history condone following him where he goes in the Wii community, or even outside of that? When I was talking about the shop revival by Larsen earlier and you look in the previous messages, I felt like no evidence was put forth in his alleged doxxing of console information. I was not the only one that felt like no evidence was put forth in this regard. In regards to the Nintendo Channel, @wilder94 had said earlier that reverse engineering had gone on earlier which is exactly what RiiConnect24 and WiiLink24 do on channels that they focus development on. How do you differentiate the term between what RiiConnect24 did to WiiConnect24 channels and what Larsen did to you? It is a bit of an entitlement to say something like “oh, you figured this out? Can I have it? If we can’t agree quick enough I’ll try to figure it out”, but wouldn’t it have been done eventually anyways? I also saw the Wii.guide mentioned which it is fucked up that Larsen was trying to insert the wrong discord server on purpose. I don’t think that should be done, but was the guide put on the WiiLink site instead? It also is ironic to mention that I had preferred using wii.guide to Wii.hacks.guide. I didn’t really like wii.hacks.guide because it was operated by the Nintendo HomeBrew people. I was willing to use wiiu.hacks.guide because there was no better guide. Isn’t redirecting users from Wii.guide to wiiu.hacks.guide hypocrisy in the notion of a monopoly existing?

Some recent drama has come out between WiiLink and RiiConnect24 and Karurosu 99, Yoshibyte, and Drip Tarts give their opinions on the matter.

Note: This video is not an attack on anybody including Larsenv or Sketch. We are just giving our opinions as users of both services

Drip Tarts' video on the original drama that happened in January 2023
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Oml that was longer than I was expecting it to be

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It is also worth mentioning that this discussion isn’t just about me, but it’s also other users that have made comments like @unkempt scroll and @queen pewter

vocal sparrow
carmine forge
unkempt scroll
carmine forge
unkempt scroll
carmine forge
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I’m surprised about your join date btw. How did you find this server?

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@unkempt scroll

prime rampart
unkempt scroll
prime rampart
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their name has never been said in the server prior to this thread

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so I have zero concern with them

unkempt scroll
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Mostly because I want Updates but I don't like the annoying announcements of stuff like the r shop one

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(The way it was worded specifically not so much the warning itself)

prime rampart
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none of these people have seen internal operations afaik

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I won't fault them though I used to dig deep into drama around this community when I was younger loooool

unkempt scroll
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I haven't quite read/watched whatever he's sent yet, but what does internal operations have to do with any of the drama

prime rampart
unkempt scroll
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I'm still confused on what that has to do with the topic, though I probably should read/ watch that first i guess

prime rampart
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and as for that, what I'm trying to say is that the authors of that video are unreliable narrators

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it's nothing against them as people I'm just saying that you should take it for a grain of salt

unkempt scroll
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Though you gotta admit the giant announcement wii link made about that was a major cause of drama

prime rampart
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well yes because we felt highly motivated to speak out against it because of the nature of the situation

unkempt scroll
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Also read very much like a we hate L so you should too

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There's better ways of going about that though

prime rampart
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quick question how long have you been around here

unkempt scroll
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Uh

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At a guess 2018/19

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In and out though

prime rampart
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as for any hate larsen has gotten and will continue to get in the future let me put things to rest by saying this

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if you've had to deal with his shit as long as people like I have, you would feel motivated to spread the word whenever he comes back in and creates more and more problems for people
he is universally hated by community heads within the Nintendo sphere as far as I know going beyond this place, and by the time that announcement was made that you're referring to, there was no negotiating with a person that had already shown tenfold that he wants things to go his way and his way only

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that can be demonstrated by his behavior within the community and outside

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treated this place like his own personal server where he could do whatever the hell he wanted

prime rampart
# prime rampart well yes because we felt highly motivated to speak out against it because of the...

but let me address this
while reusing open source code is not in its nature illegal, you have to put something into perspective
someone may want to correct me on this if I'm wrong because its been a while and I tend to discard this shit out of my mind after a while because I have better things to worry about
but larsen reused a significant amount of code and fixes within our version of the channel at the time to the point where there was literal leftover WiiLink branding within the channel when he deployed the update
the etiquette and behavior in doing this without much concrete attribution for a significant copy of our code was very bad especially considering that RC24's versions of the channel were magnitudes more popular than ours

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it was predatory behavior

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of course these problems are gone now that larsen is out of the picture, everything is merged, everything is operated by us

prime rampart
# carmine forge It would make sense to say that compared to the new person I introduced. Larsen ...

I also saw the Wii.guide mentioned which it is fucked up that Larsen was trying to insert the wrong discord server on purpose. I don’t think that should be done, but was the guide put on the WiiLink site instead? It also is ironic to mention that I had preferred using wii.guide to Wii.hacks.guide. I didn’t really like wii.hacks.guide because it was operated by the Nintendo HomeBrew people. I was willing to use wiiu.hacks.guide because there was no better guide. Isn’t redirecting users from Wii.guide to wiiu.hacks.guide hypocrisy in the notion of a monopoly existing?

wii.hacks.guide is operated by Nintendo Homebrew, but it is written by the exact same people that originally maintained wii.guide so I'm not sure where you're finding the differentiation at
obviously the domain is different but that's all

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why is wii.guide just a redirect to wii.hacks.guide, because there is absolutely ZERO reason to keep directing people to an outdated source of information (that original guide that iirc you can still access on GitHub has not been updated in several upon several months because all of the maintainers are working on, yes, wii.hacks.guide now)

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we are all confident in the changes that we made to the guide, and the entire migration was out of reasoning of larsen being a control freak (as always)

unkempt scroll
# prime rampart if you've had to deal with his shit as long as people like I have, you would fee...

What problems did he create? From my perspective yes he did say some dumb crap and annoy people, but did a ton of good things for the community and ran/ maintained (to my understanding quite well) the rc24 servers etc I haven't heard of/seen the negativity towards him from other communities though I'm not very active elsewhere so my judgement may be biased

Essentially it was his server prior to the merger I still don't really see the harm (if any) he caused by running it, personal drama aside

prime rampart
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@daring anvil you mind giving this person a rundown, I think you can do it better justice than me and seem less biased because you moderated this server independently before we took it over

unkempt scroll
prime rampart
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I'm just gonna say that he got banned from this place while he still ran RC24, from his own community
that should be a good indicator

unkempt scroll
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Yea I remember seeing him banned but nobody gave me a reason to why he was banned other than being a profanity person or the like

prime rampart
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wiilink wasn't even the first "competitor" to RC24, that accolade goes to disconnect24

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again I don't remember it well but afaik larsen was very hostile towards disconnect24 and pressured them into merging all of their work into RC24, including the signfiicant mail server revamps they did

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the services were never a collaboration

unkempt scroll
prime rampart
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wiilink was just filling in the gaps until we moved onto the main channels

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at that point it became competitive whether or not we said so

unkempt scroll
prime rampart
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I understand your viewpoint and your desire for things to have turned out differently

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but trust me, would have never happened because of larsen and the other attitudes over here as it pertains to development

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by the time we took it over larsen was running a one man show and things had completely stagnated

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trust me this is the best possible outcome

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I'll be awaiting dark's input on larsen's bullshit

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I'll go ahead and throw in the obligatory, larsen sent rule34 to dark as a minor without any notice

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that's just one of the things he's done but it tends to be the one that gets people going "wtf"

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also obviously the harassment and mistreatment he did to this community in his tenure over it, especially to certain individuals

unkempt scroll
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It's not so much a desire for things to have turned out differently it's moreso a desire for transparency (within reason) as well as less again I don't have a better word but hostility in some of the announcements and such

prime rampart
unkempt scroll
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I'm going to take your word on it because I don't want to see any proof of that lol

But in saying that, that's kinda what I mean, he has said and done some dumb stuff though this still seems more personal than anything else

prime rampart
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showing no signs of progression or maturity even when you're 21

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the guy needs to get off the internet, he needs legitimate help

unkempt scroll
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While I agree that still doesn't justify those comments, do you see what I'm saying

prime rampart
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what comments

prime rampart
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again, wait for dark to give his input on all of this, he'll probably reflect many of my comments

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ask any of the other people that have been in this community for as long as I am and they'll most likely do the same

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it's unfortunate that a lot of people come in, hear about this guy because he has this mystical fucking aura over the place that won't go away (makes sense because he's been with the service since the start)
but they don't seem to get the full grasp of what he's done

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why we've gotten to this point, why he is a pariah now

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@fluid lake I know you're not involved in this discussion, but as another longtime community member do you want to give some extra insight as to your experiences with larsen

unkempt scroll
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I just think things like that continue and even add fuel to the drama surrounding him, I mean alot of the members here are easily influenced kids that will read that and make a larsens immature and a bad person parade especially from a moderator

For what it's worth and I may be wrong here I never seen Larson publicly make comments like that here about others

I don't get the full grasp either, but I am essentially an outsider looking in, I see he's done bad things and such and it's fair to condone that but I think it's a little unfair to do this A behind his back and B with personal grievances held

prime rampart
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afaik there hasn't been any "drama" surrounding larsen for a while now

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unless he's gone and done something else fucking stupid outside the community I have no idea

fluid lake
unkempt scroll
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He still gets absolutely blasted from "leaking ips" which I haven't actually seen any evidence of

prime rampart
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in an official capacity we haven't even mentioned larsen since riishop

unkempt scroll
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Which while isn't in here directly it's still a direct result of this server

fluid lake
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never privately, always in #general calling me his raccoon or doing weird homer searches or the like

prime rampart
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if you're gonna pin anyone then don't pin the server, pin me because I drafted the announcement, I went into the server and did my own research overnight, after that place utterly fucking imploded

fluid lake
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as far as the word ban i don't really care either way cause i've never really had to mention his name recently, and if i do anyone i'm talking to already knows who big L is

unkempt scroll
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I'm not one to place blame on people especially for something like that, it was your announcement yes but alot of people from this server have fuelled that fire and absolutely s*** on him

prime rampart
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word isn't even banned anymore

fluid lake
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larsen

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oh mb lol

unkempt scroll
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So it's really a collective not one person

prime rampart
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and I'll further elaborate even

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if someone does decide to go on a campaign against someone else, that may be bannable

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depends on the context

unkempt scroll
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Or pinning

prime rampart
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but there is just no way that we can force people to stop going after this guy

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he's already made plenty of enemies before we made that announcement

unkempt scroll
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At this point no but it can be lessened in future

prime rampart
daring anvil
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are they asking about larsen?

prime rampart
# daring anvil are they asking about larsen?

What problems did [larsen] create? From my perspective yes he did say some dumb crap and annoy people, but did a ton of good things for the community and ran/ maintained (to my understanding quite well) the rc24 servers etc I haven't heard of/seen the negativity towards him from other communities though I'm not very active elsewhere so my judgement may be biased

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he was actively holding back the service

unkempt scroll
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It's more a discussion about the changes the stuff surrounding larsen, how things are said etcetc

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like he wasn't improving anything because he was too busy worrying about what wiilink was doing

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and actively burning bridges with literally everyone in the extended wii community

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which reflected on the server as a whole

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his stupidity was making everyone else look bad by association

prime rampart
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as far as the discord server, this place was not maintained well and wasn't changed for really years, there was a lot of stagnation

daring anvil
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he also refused to change at all

prime rampart
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obviously after the merge we came in and gave the server a massive overhaul

daring anvil
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a majority of the changes are things we spent years requesting for

unkempt scroll
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Like what?

daring anvil
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like stricter shitposting rules

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just more people to help maintain the server

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cleaning all the cluttered channels

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perms we never had as moderators

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because all the admins had retired at that point

fluid lake
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it's still kinda cluttered but it's actually useful clutter

daring anvil
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also we finally got to undo all the petty bans from larsen

fluid lake
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idk how rc24 used to run with like barely 4 or 5 mods

daring anvil
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it was really only like 3

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me snare and scooty

prime rampart
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yeah it was a lot less than we anticipated wrong context

daring anvil
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kcrpl was too busy to do much at the time

prime rampart
fluid lake
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i feel bad for you guys

daring anvil
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on top of that we had irl obligations

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plus come september/october my depression peaked

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I don't recall doing that much for the server around then

unkempt scroll
fluid lake
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there is with vortex

daring anvil
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a majority of bans by larsen are people that upset him

prime rampart
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I gotta see if I can find some

unkempt scroll
daring anvil
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I gurantee if you search up larsen or his id in the logs you will find some relatively quickly

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like search up toxic

unkempt scroll
prime rampart
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@daring anvil lmfao

daring anvil
prime rampart
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oh this is a set

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you know it's good when your ban reason is "being an idiot" and zero elaboration

fluid lake
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damn i should have been banned like 3 years ago for that

daring anvil
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remember when he kicked nick several times for accidentally pinging him on irc

prime rampart
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ahahahahahaha

carmine forge
carmine forge
unkempt scroll
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Also highlighting the "we are a collaboration"

unkempt scroll
carmine forge
# prime rampart but let me address this while reusing open source code is not in its nature ille...

He should've given credit, but I think in general, it gives a better experience to the user. I don't think Larsen was intrested in making any better changes, but I think he was keen on keeping up with the Wii community. I can see what you're saying though. A lot of small changes does add up. However, when I thought of WiiLink24 2 years ago, I thought of additional cities in forecast channel and Japanese channels. I think WiiLink stood out just as equally as RiiConnect24. I do apricate the WiiLink team + Strimn's work, and I look forward to watching some Kirby episodes soon :)

carmine forge
unkempt scroll
carmine forge
carmine forge
carmine forge
# prime rampart showing no signs of progression or maturity even when you're 21

It seemed like he was pretty responsive and mature when I messaged him. I'm not sure if was cause I wasn't a WiiLink staff member. He seemed pretty reasonable in dms. Ofc when I was going deep in something once he asked me to figure it out, but I was understanding about it because I messaged him with the understanding that he gets a lot of DMs from other people. I remember Krcpl used to be responsive to me, but he stopped responding at all. Is this a sign of RiiConnect24/WiiLink's drama?

prime rampart
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there is no drama

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the shop is done with
larsen is done with

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we're just focusing for the future at this point

carmine forge
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Well, I guess the stigma.

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I sent messages to Kcrpl in July 2023 and January 2024 and he didn't respond to me. This is what I'm referring to.

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July 2023 was before the shop drama

charred iris
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I'm sorry, I don't check new DM's

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Like

carmine forge
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I'm just wondering if Kcrpl didn't want to deal with RiiConnect24 during the period of time that the official owner of the server was banned.

charred iris
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At all

carmine forge
# charred iris Well, I'm the owner

I completely understand. I'm just wondering if Larsen being banned had to do with your response timing? I don't want to dive into personal issues (stress unrelated to this community, school, etc.) because I don't want to be a nosey person. I was just seeing if the Larsen and WiiLink24 drama impacted you responding.

charred iris
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No worries

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It's not that it stressed me

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I'm just less active here these days because I changed my priorities in life

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I don't spend as much time on my PC as before

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And if I do, I'm probably playing something with my friends

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or alone

carmine forge
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Thank you for that clarification. That makes sense.

charred iris
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Yeah so no worries

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And me not checking DM's

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I just stopped really checking them

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and I know I should start doing it again

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I stopped ever since they added the new tab for DM requests

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back in the days it would just show a notification

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and I would always answer

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now I just don't check the tab

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lol

carmine forge
charred iris
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well then I probably just forgot

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or just didn't answer

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nothing personal lol

carmine forge
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That's good to know. It seems like you're still active in other areas of this community but I understand dms not having as much of a priority. I used to mod a lot of Reddit and I would always try to get back to everything but at some point I just gave up and some people are probably not being answered.

shy summit
brittle oyster
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how will the merge affect things

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Is PiiConnect61 merging with 3DSLink49 or what's going on

carmine forge
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appearently the thread was pinned

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I don't remember it being so

gaunt dirge
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but hear me out...

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piiconnect25

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but yeah moving the name to wiilink was the best idea

brittle oyster
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Honestly

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do you know what we could do?

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We could bring back the original channels the Wii had when the WiiConnect24 was active

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and idk we could call it RiiConnect24 or WiiLink

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I think that is a good idea

gaunt dirge
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guys guys hear me out

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you know how wiimfi is closed source?

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what if wiilink made their own open source alternative?

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wait forget that

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you guys know how Nintendo showed off some console called the revolution and never talked about it again?

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what if WE released it?

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under a new name though...

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what if we called it the wii

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oh wait it's april 2nd now nevermind

mint rover
brave grail
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Wow, this got unpinned

unkempt scroll
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F

brittle oyster
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And right after the op realized that it was pinned lmao

brittle oyster
pulsar violet
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why is this unpinned

brittle oyster
pulsar violet
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damn

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bro why are you playing disk utility 😭

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@mortal stirrup

mortal stirrup
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am i not allowed to :3

pulsar violet
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is that even a windows built in app

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or a 3rd party app

carmine forge
pulsar violet
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ok

carmine forge
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so maybe it is by microsoft, maybe you have to download it idk

delicate crescent
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disk utility is a macOS app

carmine forge
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oh lol

pulsar violet
worldly shale
silent jacinth
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o7

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whatever that meanstooBad

brittle oyster
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this thread is existing again

brittle oyster
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🫣

pulsar violet
tawdry elbow
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gonna lock this thread tooBad

brittle oyster
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Wiilink RiiConnect24

neat dawn
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this is clearly necroposting😭

tawdry elbow
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last

tawdry elbow
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i like men