SLUA bug | From The Depths | Page 1

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:22 PM

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Platform: Macos
Build: Release and Alpha test (both experience the bug)
Description:
Whenever i attempt to use ANY lua blocks (lua box, missile lua controller, etc), it gives me this error

slua assembly:<unknown assembly> type:<unknown type> member:(null) at (wrapper managed-to-native) SLua.LuaDLL.luaL_newstate()
at SLua.LuaState..ctor () [0x0006f] in <eed81303287f45378b801ccfd46856de>:0
at SLua.LuaSvr+MainState..ctor () [0x00007] in <eed81303287f45378b801ccfd46856de>:0
at SLua.LuaSvr..ctor () [0x00008] in <eed81303287f45378b801ccfd46856de>:0
at LuaMaster..ctor () [0x0000f] in <f1f736df536949a1aa2a8f600eee595e>:0
at LuaMaster.get_Instance () [0x0000a] in <f1f736df536949a1aa2a8f600eee595e>:0
at LuaBox.InitialiseLua () [0x00008] in <f1f736df536949a1aa2a8f600eee595e>:0

I havent modified the client in any way, im mod-free, yet i get this bug.
Any additional information can be provided at request.

cobalt storm May 28, 2026, 3:25 PM

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Known issue, lua just doesnt work on Mac
And lua system is rather OP in ftd so unlikely the devs will take a look soon

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:26 PM

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Is there any known fix? its quite annoying as i am a developer and i would wanna mess around with lua.

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:26 PM

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I will quickly fire it into AI to see if there is an easy fix that I am unaware of.

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:27 PM

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i assume this is SLUA https://github.com/pangweiwei/slua
its last update was 6 years ago, its depracated

GitHub

GitHub - pangweiwei/slua: Fastest lua binding via static code gener...

Fastest lua binding via static code generating for Unity3D and mono. - pangweiwei/slua

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:28 PM

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Yep, lua was left in as Nick being nice but its pretty much defunct at this point. It was pretty much replaced with breadboards which is much more controllable in game.

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Ok yeah it just doesn't have anything for Mac

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:28 PM

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thats highly annoying, will it EVER be fixed or are mac gamers just kinda, screwed?

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:29 PM

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There hasn't been any real attention given to lua in the last 10 years

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:29 PM

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man that sucks, i would be more than happy to code away

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breadboards are a lot more limited

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:29 PM

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I'll see if there is something I can do but won't be this update.

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Yes that's kind of the point 😛

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:30 PM

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worldly niche I'll see if there is something I can do but won't be this update.

Yea, i figured

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:30 PM

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worldly niche Yes that's kind of the point 😛

Yup, ive heard that one before

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So, i did some reading, and the suggested solutions to the problem are
xLua (Chinese looking)
MoonSharp (older and hasnt been updated in longer than SLUA)
NLua/KopiLua (Probably the best option, english, updated 27 days ago, actively maintained)

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:37 PM

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Looking at Moonsharp. Will let you know how it goes

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it has been updated

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:38 PM

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7 years ago, or was i looking at the wrong website?

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yup, it has been updated, sweet

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MoonSharp looks easy to implement, but idk if it truly is

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Also, thanks for such a fast reply, this is, uncommon, i dont see this active support anywhere else

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:39 PM

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It's quietly maintained. It's git has recent updates

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but I'll double check

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:39 PM

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yea, last month

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:40 PM

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Might just be a skeleton crew keeping something ticking over than something with all the features

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Yeah its up to date pretty good actually. Looks like they are remodernising their pipelines. So I'll continue with that

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:41 PM

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nope, looks actively maintained and has other contributors

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did i just accidentally trigger a complete rewrite and revival of the lua system?

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 3:47 PM

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Maybe, I seem to be getting away with sweeping changes lately. Normally it would be a hard no 😛

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Plus this seems like it'll pretty much be a straight change and any existing LUA won't break

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maybe..

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probably..

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 3:48 PM

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probably...

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yea, i think everyone who has ever programmed would know that "it should be easy" is defined as a 500 hour fix that will cost you your sanity

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i would love to see how FTD handles lua

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im checking the wiki, and this looks doable

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IF moonsharp works out, will LUA come back into the game or will it still be abandoned?

hidden quest May 28, 2026, 4:11 PM

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I too would like there to still be an alternative to breadboards. they are very irritating

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 4:12 PM

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Im sorry to say i agree, they WORK, but using them makes me wanna dig my eyes out

hidden quest May 28, 2026, 4:12 PM

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they make my shoulder ache

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 4:12 PM

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and doing anything half complex is just, well, impossible

jagged dagger May 28, 2026, 4:25 PM

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cobalt storm Known issue, lua just doesnt work on Mac And lua system is rather OP in ftd so u...

Breadboard now has more capabilities than Lua, inferior only in the convenience of writing large algorithms (and in performance when managing a large number of blocks)

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 4:29 PM

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I don't think we need a dog pile

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It's substantial tech debt and FTD is already running on a tight ship where gains are better made elsewhere

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I'll make it work, that's about it

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 4:31 PM

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alpine spruce and doing anything half complex is just, well, impossible

That simply isn't true. You just are used to one thing and want to use that. Anyway, above statement applies.

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 4:32 PM

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Fair

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I prefer copy/pastable code in something where everything is purely skill based rather than mouse based

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 6:19 PM

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well that was surprisingly painless

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I'll speak to Nick and see if I can slip it into the alphatest

stiff niche May 28, 2026, 6:29 PM

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Holding a vigil for all our LUA scripts, praying for them to survive the update.

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 6:29 PM

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I just ran some and they were fine

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from #lua-repository

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And all old functions are still there so nothing has changed

lucid fable May 28, 2026, 6:37 PM

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Mans on a roll with the fixes and changes.

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:02 PM

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worldly niche well that was surprisingly painless

it just, WORKS?

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if you can slip that into the new alpha test, ping me, ill be the first to test it out lol

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ill awaken at midnight if thats what it takes

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alpha tests come out once every week or so, which means there is a probability of one being released tomorrow

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Well no they just come out whenever there is a need to make one and Nick is able to

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:05 PM

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fair

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:05 PM

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Will message if one appears

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:05 PM

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i assumed they were unscheduled, but there are cases where updates are delayed as to "not make it seemed rushed"

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:05 PM

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worldly niche Will message if one appears

thank you very much

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:06 PM

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Nah.... we are pretty relaxed when it comes to all that. "Organic" is how I'd put it 😛

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:06 PM

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works for me

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i set up new notif settings, so ill be notified

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but i do use sleep mode, and i am a pretty deep sleeper, so ill test it tomorrow if it comes out tonight

storm oriole May 28, 2026, 8:14 PM

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worldly niche Looking at Moonsharp. Will let you know how it goes

speaking of, why does FTD come with Moon# builtin but not used?

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:16 PM

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it doesnt, it does now, and now it will be used, we are ditching SLUA for MoonSharp, which should fix

Mac incompatibility
A whole host of bugs
Being unmaintainable

storm oriole May 28, 2026, 8:19 PM

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alpine spruce it doesnt, it does now, and now it will be used, we are ditching SLUA for MoonSh...

if you check FTD's Managed/, there's a MoonSharp.Interpreter.dll present, fully functional lol

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:19 PM

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huh, interesting

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one moment, lemme fact check this

storm oriole May 28, 2026, 8:19 PM

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i used it for a personal project, i know

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:20 PM

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Oh, fun

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well ill be damned, truly it does ship with moonsharp

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:22 PM

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Someone might've tried in the past. I think herpe was tasked with it at one point.

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:22 PM

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i see

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:22 PM

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But this is distant past stuff

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:22 PM

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so, many years?

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:24 PM

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Might even be a Unity thing.

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:24 PM

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interesting

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One remaining question

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If this goes through and works

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will it be maintained, or will this be forgotten?

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:25 PM

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Forgotten most likely. Until another update is needed

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:25 PM

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ill do my best to keep it in check then

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lol

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that would be quite funny in my opinion, just the one random guy prompting for updates

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:26 PM

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I doubt it'll need updated tbh

storm oriole May 28, 2026, 8:26 PM

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@icy river you should advertise here by the way (edit: nevermind, mods x Lua)

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:26 PM

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worldly niche I doubt it'll need updated tbh

fair, but i would want its features to be in line with that of the great BREADBOARD

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:26 PM

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Well that won't happen

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:27 PM

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i figure

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:27 PM

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Like you are super incredibly lucky you are even getting this

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Take the win

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:27 PM

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oh, i guarantee im enjoying every second of this

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and i appreciate it infinitely

storm oriole May 28, 2026, 8:28 PM

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"thank you Sean we love you Sean" we chant in unison

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:28 PM

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Yes we do

lucid fable May 28, 2026, 8:29 PM

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Praise be to Sean and Nick for letting it happen

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:29 PM

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I expected Nick to blow his top but he was surprisingly chill

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:30 PM

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wait, so it WENT THROUGH?

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:30 PM

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Then I committed it straight to trunk expecting fireballs

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Nothing yet ...

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Lol

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:30 PM

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what do you use for version management?

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i presume git

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:30 PM

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SVN purely because it handles large files better

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:31 PM

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im gonna need to google that, one moment

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:31 PM

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It's almost exactly the same in function

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:32 PM

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i figure, i just enjoy reading wikipedia lol

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According to the wiki, its not been updated in 6 years, is that accurate?

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nope, 2 years

worldly niche May 28, 2026, 8:33 PM

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No, you get different flavours of it

alpine spruce May 28, 2026, 8:33 PM

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so forks?

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nonetheless, it looks good

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is it open source?

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oh, its apache, so it is

worldly niche May 29, 2026, 9:39 PM

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@alpine spruce That's the alphatest build live

alpine spruce May 30, 2026, 5:02 AM

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waiting on the update to download

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