(In water)
#Add a spin block variant that consumes engine power but can be used with rudders for custom props
sweet cipher
oblique panther
Have you heard of custom props?
sweet cipher
which one?
oblique panther
The air ones
sweet cipher
yeah, but apparently they don't work the best underwater
and dedicated underwater props would still be cooler
oblique panther
They still work really well
oblique panther
That’s why you use thrust vectoring for extra control
sweet cipher
it's a janky workaround
it works, but I'd rather have a dedicated prop for ocean crafts
feral viper
Custom rudders still kinda work in air
oblique panther
Alternatively, you could use large steam props
feral viper
Also rudders on a spin block does work just not well
oblique panther
Either way, if you want a custom size water prop, rudders on a spin block is not the way. At one point in time, you could put wings on a spin block, and that was explicitly removed.
sweet cipher
there's also only one optimal angle and that's completely flat
feral viper
they don't work if you don't already have speed
Used to be that way it was ridiculously over powered basically light speed
sweet cipher
which makes little sense
sweet cipher
Used to be that way it was ridiculously over powered basically light speed
then they can add resistance and artificially limit it
better than not having it at all
oblique panther
There was a reason why it was removed
sweet cipher
why?
sweet cipher
Cuz it was infinite speed for free
it doesn't cost fuel?
sweet cipher
oh that's silly
a dedicated motor block that works with rudders and cost power then?
Add a spinner variant that costs engine power but can be used with rudders for custom props
sweet cipher
...that was the original suggestion
but apparently free power would be too op
I'm suggesting an alternative to spin blocks that cost power but works well
Add a spin block variant that consumes engine power but can be used with rudders for custom props
frigid bison
Custom water props instead?
upper prawn
Steam props work for that
sweet cipher
Steam props work for that
not very customizable
upper prawn
frigid bison
not very customizable
Exactly, a) not customizable and b) if you want any kind of power out of it, you have to stack motors
gray star
Air props: still more efficient than water props in water 
sweet cipher
Exactly, a) not customizable and b) if you want any kind of power out of it, you...
And requires a giant steam engine this is a headache
frigid bison
That'd be C but yes also valid. You either need a huge stack of motors to get inferior power, or a giant steam engine.
vestal hull