not sure what to call this

[peak sierra]

in 3/3, took me way too long to figure out how to do that

[bold tundra]

3/3 = 3/4 but slower*

[peak sierra]

not quite, but sure

[bold tundra]

3 triplets folows a 123 123 123 pattern still

but a 1/3 note is slower than a 1/4

[peak sierra]

it means there are three notes in three bars i think

terminology might be wrong

[bold tundra]

3 notes in 3 bars? thats not 3/3 then

3 notes per bar

is 3/3

Unless yo mean measure

123|123|123|123

[peak sierra]

yeah thats what i meant

mb

but this is 5/3 for example

[bold tundra]

yea thats like 3/4

wiht the 3rd note tied to the start of 2nd

[peak sierra]

what

[bold tundra]

123|123|123|123 but 3_1 are connected

thats still like 3/4

[peak sierra]

3/3 is 123|123|123

three groups of three

[bold tundra]

thats 9/3 then

[peak sierra]

this is 3/3

three groups of three

the time sig on this project is 3/3

[bold tundra]

3 groups of 3 is 9/3 ? thats 3 measures

so 3 measures of 3/3

I see what you mean tho

typically. music will use even number of measures

[peak sierra]

whatt
this is 9/3, with 9 groups of three

i dont see what you are saying

[peak sierra]

yes

[bold tundra]

3/4 tho looks the same layout, try it. 3:3 = 123|123|123 --- But 3|4 is also 123|123|123 at a faster tempo

bc each of the 123 are playing 1/4 notes instead of 1/3

which are faster

[peak sierra]

three groups of four

this is 3/4

[bold tundra]

your music differs bc [123|123|123] instead of [123|123|123|123]

[peak sierra]

i dont think its quarter or third notes

its [123|123|123] instead of [1234|1234|1234]

you're thinking of 4/3

[bold tundra]

ah i see

although 3/4 sounds the same

123|123|123

[peak sierra]

its close but different

tbh its probably even harder with my song here because of the drums

[bold tundra]

Yes. 3/4 usualy repeats an even number of measures

But 3/3 is 3 measures instead of 4

-123.123.123-123,123,123-

this sounds like 9/8 or 9/4 too

if you adjst the tempo to be equivalent

[peak sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-stock-image-gif-27117830

[bold tundra]

9/8 als sounds like 3 groups of 3/8

[peak sierra]

yeah

[bold tundra]

this is what i mean, adjust your 3/3's tempo, and you have 9/8 or 3/4

[peak sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-2901353152573298214

no you dont

you might have something close to 9/3 but not 9/8

[bold tundra]

3/3 Is 3 groups of 3, (9) then respeed it ti match the 9/8 speed

so youd be increaseing value X bpm where x is 3x=8

[peak sierra]

9/8 sped up sounds sort of close to 3/4 but its still no the same. you could probably treat it like 3/4 just fine, but at that point just use 3/4

[bold tundra]

thats not 3/4

thats a 4 beat, 1 2 3 4 , but really fast

[peak sierra]

actual troll

[bold tundra]

no

1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4

this is 4/4 or 4/3 or something

@peak sierra

6 sections of 4/4 or 4/3 or whatever

[peak sierra]

it is 3 sections of 4 beats or something

3/4

if you want proof, the time signature for the project was in 3/4

and the notes are on time with everything

[bold tundra]

then you have the strong beats wrong

the way its posted here is 4

a 3 beat should have every 4th beat, not 5th, so each time a new measure comes in

this is like swwwswwwswwwswww

Should be swwswwswwsww

for a 3/4

[bold tundra]

Look inbetween thp

[peak sierra]

yes

4 beats

[bold tundra]

there are 3 inbetween ticks

yes thats the bottom divisor

[peak sierra]

4 is the bottom divisor, yes

[bold tundra]

so including the 1st thats 4

[peak sierra]

shocking

[bold tundra]

thats not 3/4

3/4 has 2 ticks between

[peak sierra]

oh my god

no it doesnt

that would be x/3

[bold tundra]

3/4 is 123 123 123 123

[peak sierra]

thats 4/3

[bold tundra]

Nope

[123][123][123][123]

thats 3/4 where each of 1 2 and 3 are a 1/4 note

[peak sierra]

this is so dumb, why am i having this argument

[bold tundra]

so 3 1/4 notes

Per measure

9/8 is equivalent to 9/4 at twice the tempo

for eg

[peak sierra]

but that is not 3/3 or 3/4

[bold tundra]

FL has it messed up cb thats not typical way to notate it

Its showing 4 bars black, then red

for 3/4 it should be 3 of each

I think i see what you mean, but thats not 3/4 then.,...

[peak sierra]

and lmms does as well i guess?

[bold tundra]

thats counting the inbetween beats

Like, its adding empty spaces that arent rrelavent to that time sig

they are sttreteched but like

Its wonky to look at

[peak sierra]

ok maybe we are looking at different parts of it

[bold tundra]

https://youtu.be/DAxUvIpQHow

this is 3/4

1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3

strong beat every 4th

[peak sierra]

literally this

[bold tundra]

you put the strong beats every 5 tho in that clip

[peak sierra]

the circled beat and the beat with the 1 are the same beat

they are also the strong beats

[bold tundra]

Ok i see, you added the extra 1/16 notes,

the way you put atrong beats is [ 1234 1234 1234 ] [1234 | 1234 | 1234 ]

where 1 is each beat

[peak sierra]

because they differentiate 3/3 and 3/4

[bold tundra]

3/3 is the same tho but at a slower tempo.,...

[peak sierra]

ok wait

i see the problem

[bold tundra]

if you play it, say with 1/9 notes. thats like playing it in 3/9

[peak sierra]

its time division and time sig

my 3/3 is in time div

yours is probably in time sig

[bold tundra]

3/3 and 3/4 time sig are equivalent, eexcept for 3/3 being a bit slower

same way 4/4 abnd 4/8 are

with 4/8 bing twice speed

[peak sierra]

yeah

so we were just talking about different things

[bold tundra]

tiem div doesnt make sense the way yu were saying

[ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4] = [ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4] = [ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4]

this is 3/4

[peak sierra]

idk if time div is the right term, its just what fl uses

[1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3] = [1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3]... is 3/3

for fl's time div

which is what i was referring to initially

[bold tundra]

Yes but also look, 1 2 3 Is triplets, but this is equivalent to [1 2 3 | 1 2 3 | 1 2 3] at [ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4] = [ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4] = [ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4] atadjusted tempo

[peak sierra]

for time sig, not fl time div

[bold tundra]

thats what the time signature is called

its the same ryhthm just named differently

[peak sierra]

what?

[bold tundra]

[ 1 2 3 ] is [ 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4] where each beat in the first is 4 beats

so 1...2...3...

etc

1 2 3 4 5 = 1 2 3 4 5 (1/4 notes) if i added 1.2.3.4.5.

thats 1/8 notes

[peak sierra]

the 3/3 and 3/4 on these are at the same project bpm and have notes on the same intervals

how are they the same

[bold tundra]

1 9/8 consis of 3 3/8 sections

same way you can count 4/4 as 2 bars of 2/4 *

its interchangable, and notation is used based on what better reperests the feel

or if its easier to read

[peak sierra]

ok sure

i get that in traditional time sig 3/3 and 3/4 are similar