art-discussion

[carmine jolt]

very neat 👌

[mystic nova]

Is it one of the recent mechanicus figurines or 3D printed

[craggy ruin]

Kitbash of the Skitarii Marshall with ranger head

Cus I love the ranger heads

[past robin]

Mmm, kitbashes

Love them

[pseudo fossil]

For future reference…do ya take commissions?

[shell valve]

yes, I do

[pseudo fossil]

did I hear kitbashes

[pseudo fossil]

MARVELLOUS, I shall DM you upon the date of payment and slap thee with cash

And yes, I’m painting them blue deffskulls wardens for life

They’re WIP’s for now so expect BIGGER

[past robin]

Yes :chad:

Fuck you nitro

[cosmic bough]

Hmm Želva

To add to that

[stuck crown]

@high pagoda great work as usual!

[carmine jolt]

damn mans posting bangers

[stuck crown]

do my man Rykard. Phase 2

[nimble arch]

Looks more like the Stahlhelm?

[frigid monolith]

which looks more colonial than warden

not that it looks very colonial either

[cobalt kayak]

where’s that classic fucking image of you doing the “heeere’s Johnny!” scene with a bag of commission money when I need it

also lmao fantastic kitbashes

[pseudo fossil]

Thank you~

[bright coral]

Thats terrifying

I love it

[nimble arch]

Yes

[olive cove]

perhaps, I’ll probably draw him after the next one I do

[polar wyvern]

commissioned by asteral

[high ledge]

Robo ram

I’d like to ram that robot LMAO

[deep pagoda]

Imagine painting your figures to match Foxhole, this post was made by neutral yellow and Gray gang

Still a WIP but it's coming along

[polar wyvern]

here's the ref com

[mystic nova]

Death korp

Nice

Kill team octarius or forgeworld

[deep pagoda]

Was originally gonna do them up like wardens but then I realised that was like, the equivalent of never touching grass again

[deep pagoda]

Plastic veterans kit

[mystic nova]

Regular GW then

[deep pagoda]

Ye

[mystic nova]

Also in lore kriegers kinda look like wardens

They have either light blue coats or grey ones

[deep pagoda]

If I paint them green or blue then I'll constantly go "haha worbin" or "hehe cololrb"

So I'm painting them as steel legion

[mystic nova]

Eh

[deep pagoda]

https://youtu.be/Gavh_y-0RSM

[mystic nova]

It look goods

[deep pagoda]

Also because I like the look

[mystic nova]

But being a 40k lore consumer this is heresy if the highest order

[deep pagoda]

Especially once I get them in the trenches

[mystic nova]

N i c e

[deep pagoda]

I collect leviathan Tyranids, lore is beyond me

What is a Horus heresy, sounds a bit boring, gonna eat your planet

Lothar? I hardly knower

[mystic nova]

I once told a guy "hey you know the time Horus destroyed cadia with the phalanx ?"

He answered me "oh ye i remember"

I thought I was gonna slap him with an energy gauntlet so hard his butt would be yeeted to mars

[bright coral]

I love sweaters

[deep pagoda]

Omw to not give a single fuck about imperial lore and only care about Tyranids and who they eat

[bright coral]

Im wearing one of those right now, except its green

[polar wyvern]

man of culture

[deep pagoda]

Oh and I collect necrons because I can

[mystic nova]

Necrons

[deep pagoda]

The rule of cool

[mystic nova]

Lemme guess

Your Wallet is bleeding

[deep pagoda]

Dead on the floor

Too much cool

[mystic nova]

https://tenor.com/view/empty-wallet-no-money-broke-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-gif-13868803

[deep pagoda]

Have to go resuscitate it

[craggy ruin]

Good ones

[mystic nova]

I personally have some custodes

A warden squad
Dawneagle motojets
Contempor dreadnought
And captain general trajann Valoris

[craggy ruin]

WIP

I made up my own Forge world

[mystic nova]

I only depict grey and bronze

Wait

[craggy ruin]

I use grey blue and bronze

[mystic nova]

Nice

Just
I don’t find it very nice yet
The aspect could be smoothed out a bit to get rid of the granule effect

[craggy ruin]

Here is more

[mystic nova]

But this should work out when you dump it in nuln oil and reapply some paints

I hesitate to do mechanicus or necron after my custodes army

Harsh decision
The two follow the rule of the cool

[craggy ruin]

I think I kinda need to work on the smoothness

They have oil on but not much cus

But they are kinda supposed to look grainy/battered

[mystic nova]

Ah

To fit the aspect of hardened by combat

And dusty

Well if that’s the case then it work out nice

[craggy ruin]

It's from dust

[mystic nova]

I hope you won’t mind
But I get skitarii i will paint them with Bronze

I forgot this color until you brought this up

And will kinda copy the aesthetic
Because you painted them very well

[craggy ruin]

Like they from a desert world with a titan legion

So they kinda get dusty a lot

[mystic nova]

The church coming to you

[craggy ruin]

I also have a custom magos

[mystic nova]

Show

Magos are beautiful models

But hard to paint because of all the small details

[craggy ruin]

Lemme find

[high ledge]

God I wish I could paint that well

It’s so good

[mystic nova]

Indeed

This man killed his wallet and a few dozens hours of his time for those minies

[craggy ruin]

Also am proud of the base here...yes I sacrificed a kasttelan for it

[mystic nova]

Poor Kasttelan

He don’t have a base anymore

[craggy ruin]

I have more but they are unpainted

I'm scared to count the cost

[mystic nova]

Nice

Well I have to go for now
But very nice army you got there

[craggy ruin]

Thx

[bleak elk]

Damn, You made me want to repaint my second hand Space Marines

[craggy ruin]

The colour I use is Celesta Grey

[flint rock]

the stills

[hushed cairn]

fixed europe this is sure to please everyone and not piss anyone off

[pure harness]

should've gave Karelia to Finland for cleaner borders

[kind willow]

anybdy got any ideas for coilan or waden flags

imperimal army of holy roman byamizte

waden imperial army

holy seal balltion

waden roaly french force

[hushed cairn]

I freed finland of aland to alleviate this issue

[pure harness]

djfasfdewwwpjwiwvnw

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[brisk siren]

spammin'

[sonic mural]

could you uh

crop the screenshots on paint or smth

[kind willow]

Sure

[buoyant crest]

Is that second last tab.....

[pseudo fossil]

YorkshiIIIIIIIRE

[earnest yew]

Does anyone have bunker 3d models or know how i can get them

[high ledge]

God man, don't use the albanian Eagle 🗿

[cosmic shore]

I made a new soldier model concept guys

[high pagoda]

🤔 I've been trying to make the weapons from the original X-COM more realistic while being faithful, but these things are making it hard

[carmine jolt]

now do the teapot for colonials

[thorn spade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRI70YRPNGU

found a funny gun yall

the Lee Navy 1895
its an almost straight pull
u pull it straight
at an angle
this thing both brings me joy and sorrow

[shell valve]

so satisfying

[bright coral]

That is satisfying

[pure harness]

bored ape soldier lmao

[sonic mural]

@round estuary how much do i have to pay you for a silenus edit of my oc

[round estuary]

like 10-15 bucks if you want something like the anime girl, and 20-25 for the tank which is essentially a full redraw.

sorry did a quick edit

[sonic mural]

how about for something like the silenus peanut but with a new face

[round estuary]

Ah 5-10 bucks depending on the complexity

[sonic mural]

cool

[carmine jolt]

see now you're getting it

[round estuary]

yeyeye

[sonic mural]

do you take steam payment?

steam wallet

[carmine jolt]

ah, right. he's SEA

[round estuary]

SEA?

[sonic mural]

southeast asia

[carmine jolt]

shit east asia, jus like me FR!!!!

[round estuary]

Ah gotcha

[sonic mural]

my paypal got blocked

[round estuary]

Ripppp

[carmine jolt]

wtf why

[round estuary]

Do you have a cashapp?

[sonic mural]

because elon musk decided to take a shit on me specifically

[carmine jolt]

google play cards

[sonic mural]

no

[carmine jolt]

oh fuck i gotta see if i got smacked

[round estuary]

Well I did want that outer worlds dlc

no wait I already have the dlc

[sonic mural]

which one?

[round estuary]

Well I'll do it if you got nothing else

[sonic mural]

wait so

what game do i pay you with

[round estuary]

A steam wallet is fine

if that's doable

[sonic mural]

i forgot, can a steam wallet from one currency convert to another?

[round estuary]

[sonic mural]

damn you can't/

[round estuary]

this world is cruel

[bright coral]

Damn you steam gods

[high pagoda]

School Bot - Luis Esteves

[meager raptor]

I wish that was real

[carmine jolt]

anotha banger

[languid dawn]

dope pictures what tank might you do next?

[pure harness]

Awesome art! Keep doing what you’re doing

[hallow sable]

Oh fuck that’s sexy as hell

[pallid tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939408898048278528/966703603882524712/unknown.png

a canadian warden

[high pagoda]

Epic

[frigid arch]

looks very nice lad

[meager raptor]

son.

[tough crater]

Breh

[tough crater]

Tonks

I Like the sandbags

[bright coral]

You should make one with improvised camouflage

Like a bunch of brush

[pure harness]

Fellas, is it weird to get an erection from looking at a tank?

[sonic mural]

goddamn

pure kino

did i ever mention i really love the way you draw vehicles

[bright coral]

If pizazz is around, yes. Definitely.

[high pagoda]

Someone needs to alert him

[high pagoda]

Thanks

[bright coral]

He’ll alert himself when we need him most

[high pagoda]

https://www.artstation.com/michalkus You should have a look at this guy

[bright coral]

:0

Woah.

[nimble arch]

Canadia

[minor marsh]

Sri Lanka?

[hallow sable]

wip so far of a thingy, haven’t posted much recently since idk if anyone cares much about my more normal stuff

[hushed cairn]

could this vehicle work well in a modern battlefield

[nimble arch]

dunno

[unkempt steeple]

what the balkan bois

[runic linden]

What da dog doin

[round estuary]

he can fit so many sausages

[carmine jolt]

small sketch

[frigid monolith]

oh god it's captain colonial

[hallow sable]

It’s a light tank, and considering most Armies rn are scrambling to develop their own versions, I’d say yeah, it’s a current need for lighter yet heavy hitting armored vehicles with superior cross country mobility

[hushed cairn]

And how’s the top armor 🤔

[hallow sable]

Armor is around 45mm on the roof, average for a tank. but the rest of it is 30-50mms varying, it mainly Depends on N-ERA and APS systems

for reference, a bradley only has 14.7mm of aluminium composite armor

[hushed cairn]

Oh I know how much armor a Bradley has

[stark cove]

I’m sold

[brisk siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515013966741635124/966918588743155763/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515013966741635124/966920137993248838/unknown.png

[bright coral]

Mischievous little bugger

[polar wyvern]

commissioned by @sand cloak

[meager raptor]

Me:

by the way good art

[bright coral]

It is indeed very good

Elephant maaan

[pearl ferry]

@faint badger awesome art dude!, however it looks like the tank is shooting but the smoke seems a bit weird if the round just left the barrel

[high pagoda]

I agree

I'm assuming it's 3d?

[faint badger]

Yeah it is

[hallow sable]

Still really good tho

[high pagoda]

Very nice.

Reminds me of another 3D artist I've seen

[high pagoda]

Is there anyway you could add a sort of cloudy effect to the smoke?

[faint badger]

Yeah probably

Nah it’s normal, ur the odd one out here smh

[novel yoke]

bruh the stuff you guys do here

its so cool

[shell relic]

Wip

[hushed cairn]

Me when I trip and I’m have boobs

[shell relic]

I don'tknow how to do water

Sorry

[high pagoda]

Put bubbles next to her nose

[shell relic]

On it

[shell relic]

Done

Sorry dauntless

[hushed cairn]

do not apologize

get waves bro trust

[high pagoda]

What happened?

[shell relic]

Mistype

[knotty harbor]

@dusky saffron step it up foxen smh

[drowsy garnet]

i was wondering what you meant by "flamethrower art"

[knotty harbor]

your burning questions have been answered

[drowsy garnet]

i'll show you the way out if you need it

[dusky saffron]

Diediediedie

The shoulder armor is pretty slick. Not going to lie

[knotty harbor]

but you dont like my fancy shiny shin guards?? :(

[knotty harbor]

it will be you who is doing so

[dusky saffron]

Need to be light on feet to shoot smg

[knotty harbor]

im wearing my 15th century cuirass

[dusky saffron]

Dash tactics

[knotty harbor]

sorry buddy

[dusky saffron]

I forgive you

But my Tommy gun don't

[knotty harbor]

your bullets wont hurt me but the armor fragmenting will

[dusky saffron]

Fine. I'll bring in the ISG

[knotty harbor]

:/

dont

i dont have range

this is just gasoline in a pressure washer

[dusky saffron]

[gilded aurora]

Found something pretty cool. An image of two Steam tanks (Tanks powered by steam engines) that carry heavy warden vibes.

[knotty harbor]

::(((

[dusky saffron]

Love it

[knotty harbor]

they need to be dieselpunk

[dusky saffron]

Dirty steam punk

[drowsy garnet]

left one looks very close to devit indeed

[knotty harbor]

yes

the best kind

i love polluting the earth!! die faster bitch!!

[gilded aurora]

Yeah but can your dieselpunk tanks use Steam whistles and make very satisfying clackalackalackalacka sounds when idling?

[carmine jolt]

steampunk mfs be like "holy shit"

[gilded aurora]

Stop

[knotty harbor]

shut up lol

[gilded aurora]

That's not funny..

Not funny didn't laugh

[carmine jolt]

uses coal for power
still has to boil water just to do something

[knotty harbor]

our TURBOCHARGERS on our TURBOCHARGED BIG BLOCK DIESEL ENGINES will whine yes

[knotty harbor]

💜

i guess they could use electric power but still

youd need so much water

[gilded aurora]

Can you emulate a train by hiding in the bushes by a railroad crossing? Allowing you to scare the shit outta people when they try to cross? No? Didn't think so.

Also. You can't touch my torque ratio

[knotty harbor]

theyll be scared of the deafening roar of my engine

and all the black smoke

and soot

[gilded aurora]

5,000 foot pounds of torque baby!!!!

[carmine jolt]

ooo move aside gents here comes the superior steam behemoths

[knotty harbor]

steam isnt real its just warm water

[carmine jolt]

the most nastiest whip on god

[knotty harbor]

reject steam

embrace diesel

[carmine jolt]

you're not pulling up on the hood with that

[knotty harbor]

I will travel to your block on the morrow good sir

[gilded aurora]

Dangit

[knotty harbor]

be ready for me when i roll up for my reservoir shall need topping off

[drowsy garnet]

:pepeboner:

[gilded aurora]

You are out of uniform soldier! Where is your brass gilding?!!

[knotty harbor]

all the brass went into making ur gay little boilers

[drowsy garnet]

i wrote it as a joke, but then i realised that there's an emote like that on one of the servers i know

[knotty harbor]

amen

steam gun mfs

[carmine jolt]

he still uses black powder

[knotty harbor]

steam guns

when

when um..

[gilded aurora]

Gay.... You expect me to believe THAT MAGGOT?!

The truth is that you've LOST a perfectly good piece of high grade steampunk equipment!

That brass is gonna come outta your PAY!

And you will remain here in this place till you are 510 Years old!!

Because that's how long it'll take you to pay off this steampunk elegance which you've so casually REJECTED!!

[carmine jolt]

steamclave here

[gilded aurora]

LOL

[carmine jolt]

why isnt your pneumatic tube working

[knotty harbor]

i need my pneumatic armor im so weak without it

why dont you were 75 POUNDS OF STEEL LIKE A MAN

were

wher

wear

[gilded aurora]

You have two lives remaining! Would you like to use a Lifeline to assist you in spelling that word correctly?

[knotty harbor]

need bread walmar

[gilded aurora]

Also. When your oil runs out I'll be laughing myself to death as I pass you fueled by two ever present sources of fuel. Water... and wood. (Coal is optional!)

...How did we get here?

[knotty harbor]

renewable resources are for pussies

it is my god given right and manifest destiny to exploit and take everything on this earth

[frigid monolith]

imagine steam or diesel or even electricity

embrace nuclear powered tanks

[knotty harbor]

CRINGE!!!

[gilded aurora]

BUT WAIT.

Nuclear is technically steam powered

You've become your enemy

Also.

How's all that diesel transported in that setting?

Steam trains

[gilded aurora]

You sir have become your enemy without even realizing it.

Welcome to the family

[knotty harbor]

diesel trains

[gilded aurora]

Powered by steam turbines using diesel as a heat source

You can't escape me

[knotty harbor]

love u

[meager raptor]

;)

[sonic mural]

@meager raptor what's that pfp

sonny side?

[meager raptor]

I'm evolved but UNTAMED

[meager raptor]

Kind of

[vague dust]

Just use coal lol

Demand for diesel is for the other vehicles in the military arsenal.

[carmine jolt]

been reading dune lately

[quick token]

Art is now obsolete thanks to DALL-E-2

https://openai.com/dall-e-2/#demos

Left is original, right is the new openAI algorithm variants

[carmine jolt]

illustratorbros how do we cope

[carmine jolt]

this is why we need the butlerian jihad

[quick token]

The difference even in onnly a few years of AI image generation are pretty staggering, when will you be able to tell an AI "make me a full star wars movie with a new plot involving talking dogs that doesn't suck and stream it to my TV"

[hallow sable]

why the fuck do i know how to pronounce Gloucestershire

[carmine jolt]

man may not be replaced

[carmine jolt]

if you know how to pronounce Worcestershire its easier

[hallow sable]

why the fuck do i know how to pronounce that too

[hallow sable]

we've been here since the beginning

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/717498714259980378/944796880452341780/image0-19-1.gif

[quick token]

"angels"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ8DW9sXoAEMUI7?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ8DW9wXMAEk4tP?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ8DW_iXIAIO6V_?format=jpg&name=large

Open original for best detail

All of it, from scratch, just the prompt given yes

"MC Escher's Tower of Babel"

"Medieval manuscript depicting Kpop"

"dinosaur dracula"

"dinosaurs playing baseball in watercolor"
https://i.imgur.com/h57uQd2.png

and my personal favorite of them all,
"renaissance painting of a blue hedgehog that has to go fast"

[bright coral]

I second that. Master artistry

[cosmic bough]

Thats by Jeffrey Chew. He has a bit more stuff like that

https://www.artstation.com/jeffrey_chew

[high pagoda]

Brazil

[meager raptor]

Go to Brazil

[high pagoda]

They desperately wanted to be us

[molten grove]

anyone got some good foxhole wallpapers?

[knotty harbor]

americana, brazil

[loud rock]

I'm only upset that there's a waitlist, everyone should be able to use it. I have to make do on discount DALL-E with Latent Diffusion

[hallow sable]

Did some searching and man it’s a hot topic

The fact at AI is able to replace humanity in even some of the most Innately human behaviors is not sitting well with, basically anyone but the people who see the cash making potential in this

[carmine jolt]

soon.

[loud rock]

Don't know what you mean the art community seems to be taking this very well

[hallow sable]

->I complain about the bleak future of humanity in terms of humanity itself becoming obsolete by our own hands -> someone tells me that it’s inevitable and I should cry about it -> I splatter their brains on the wall with a 12 gauge shot gun -> I complain about the bleak future of humanity in terms of humanity itself becoming obsolete by our own hands

[carmine jolt]

digitalbros seethe

[hallow sable]

viva la revolucion

[loud rock]

My view is that AI is more likely to make artists better and create more artists rather than replace them. Like envisioning a world where anyone can create the art they've always envisioned without years of grinding fundamentals.

[quick token]

AI still can't create entirely original ideas though which humans can do

[hallow sable]

Still takes the art out of the art and just turns it into something cheap.

Art is the labor of someone’s effort, practice, love in most cases. Art gets better with the work put into it, not by cheating your way to being the best.

This is why most people were fine with AI taking over menial jobs, but when it comes to replacing Careers that have defined human culture, society, and human nature as a whole. Not just art, but the science of advancement as a whole, AI is close to reaching self improvement to the point no human is needed to advance it.

When we reach that point then humanity will be obsolete.

[hallow sable]

AI learning is advancing rapidly, to the point you only need to assign it a job, a very basic prompt and the rest of the thinking will be done by it

[quick token]

But it still needs a prompt, or a dataset, or an initial timestamp, or something

It can't decide to come up with something on its own, it has to extrapolate it from something else

[hallow sable]

Humans who wanted money.

Same humans who want to push this AI because it will make them more money

[loud rock]

Also an outrageous amount of computing power lol

[hallow sable]

Only now, but it’s learning , it’s pre existing knowledge grows and grows until it needs none of that

It’s a slippery slope

[quick token]

The typical take on humanity's ability to create entirely unique things has always stemmed from a kind of 'stream of consciousness' that mostly relies on electrical static in the brain

Ie. our brains create static, which in turn is filtered and processed into entirely original ideas

[sonic mural]

ai still couldn't recreate the wild shit concept artists make up

[quick token]

Just all the time without our awareness

[hallow sable]

AI will never replace NSFW artists

[quick token]

Which is why you sometimes just get totally random thoughts

Your brain is doing it all the time and throwing out the endless nonsense ones

It's more like a pack of trading cards

[loud rock]

Mate you have no idea. I know actual scientists unironically working on AI Waifus, they have full length academic papers on how to create AI generated anime with equations and everything.
https://www.gwern.net/Faces

[sonic mural]

like you can't convince me ai at this state could make this for the first time

[quick token]

Basically the creation of an idea has a series of steps in the human brain and the end result is the ideal of something in the platonic sense

Ie. you can trade, mix and match ideas

And create them from nothing

Then your brain stores and filters them for use during your life

An AI that thinks like a biological creature has to be able to do the same

[loud rock]

Not the first time but a weekend of mad science experiments got me this

[quick token]

And none is able to do really process ideas the way we can

Ie. it needs to be able to both create an original idea and scan it for nonsense

[hallow sable]

You fail to understand this AI is developed for the corporate purpose of efficiently creating art without the need of a human being or a complicated design process.

There will be independent artists yes. But artists with actual jobs? No. The most they will be able to hope for are commissions by people and the occasional auction depending on how high profile they are.

But company concept artists. Digital designers. All of them will be replaced, all they will need is one person to insert the prompt of what the company needs and something new is churned out. Something soulless.

AI art will be light years ahead of human ability, brushstrokes will be perfect, ideas executed to perfection.

The best hope for artists is that people will prefer human made art, brushstrokes performed with consciousness and emotion behind them.

Only humans can get ourselves out of this, as with most of the problems we’ve created for ourselves.

[quick token]

GAN networks are the first step in the whole thing, it's pretty big shit

Basically the idea being pretty simple, you have one AI creating, and a second AI judging the creation

ANd te two constantly work and learn from each other

I have no idea how this new generator works

But it's like an order of magnitude better than anything before it

When two AIs are set in a cooperative or adversarial situation the end result always ends up being some kind of crazy shit

Like they create their own language to talk to each other out of "hearing" of the humans

Personally I think that AI and human artists will always be able to work side by side, not be replaced by one or the other

of course it'll get all corporatized in the end

[carmine jolt]

AI is sin

[quick token]

Feed a computer algorithms for "design me a logo that maximizes people's desire to buy our product"

[loud rock]

We're past GANs, this is the CLIP and diffusion era. Instead of them being trained on one subject like faces, it's trained on text/image pairs which allow it to create according to prompts.

[hallow sable]

But that’s not exactly efficient in the end is it? Why still waste money on hiring the human when the AI works for free.

[quick token]

I think the value will turn more towards originality than in quantity, AI will be good at making quantity but not original stuff

There will definitely be a loss in things like TV or movie writers

[hallow sable]

That’s my only hope in the end, that other humans will prefer human products over machine creatures

[quick token]

Even the video game industry

It depends how badly people bow to the demands of money I guess

AI generated stuff can be generated on the cheap in mass quantities

[hallow sable]

Yeah it’s an issue in all creative departments, musicians, producers, writers, all are getting corporatized with AI

[quick token]

Pretty much the trumpet call of end stage capitalism is the commercialization of art

AI will usher that age in

In ways art has always been commercialized

But never really losing a bit of quirkiness

Its entire point is a lack of mundanity

overly AI generated stuff ends up being smooth but boring

[hallow sable]

These topics are always pessimistic, it’s the bleak reality of things, the only optimistic thing to hope for is that people won’t cave into the temptation of extremely cheap products, and will prefer the quality of human creation.

[quick token]

like I said I think AI created art is just as valid, it depends entirely on the perspective of the creator and absorber

I like to think it's one step on the road to fully artificial sentient life

Which is really the end goal

[hallow sable]

Atleast the US copyright office banned AI art from being copyrighted, it’s not the intellectual property of a human being

[quick token]

https://play.aidungeon.io/

I love this for instance

It can come up some totally insane and anomalous things sometimes

[hallow sable]

That’s an end goal that is extremely risky.

On the slim chance that they manage to co exist with is, it’s just that co existing, and it typically doesn’t go the smoothest.

On another hand, sentient AI will lead to ethical issues of the Free use of AI.

And on the worst note. We will be the creators of a new sentient digital species that will be better in humanity in every perceptible way. We will be the architects of our own damnation

[loud rock]

I don't know, AI Art does a lot of the work but I still have to do a lot of composition and overpainting to get a finished piece but at least I get finished art. I grinded fundamentals for years and never could finish things but now I can. And there's a lot of people who don't have the dexterity to even grind and AI now can empower them with the ability to make art they otherwise can't.

[sonic mural]

all technology advancements point towards the butlerian jihad

[hallow sable]

I’m realistic, ignoring how things can go wrong is exactly why we’re so screwed today

[sonic mural]

ozark is right

5-6 years ago we started having automated toll booths. the first thing i thought were all the hundreds of people suddenly getting fired and losing their jobs

if artificial intelligence advances the way it does now, don't you think that every job will one day be replaced?

[hallow sable]

How long till the corpos themselves get replaced

[loud rock]

There will be new jobs lol

[quick token]

everything bows to the almighty dollar

[hallow sable]

The dream of AI and machines was that they would get rid of menial jobs, so that humanity could instead have better jobs, better quality of life, but now even those “better jobs” are being replaced.

Things in moderation are good. Out of control and you have destruction

[sonic mural]

good jobs like accounting will be obsolete too one day. who needs humans who can make errors when you can have a 100% accurate machine to do the job

but i think that's the beauty of art sometimes

[sonic mural]

those tiny little mistakes that makes an artwork very human

[hallow sable]

You embrace your overlords

[loud rock]

Accountant here, I swear one day I'll automate this shit myself, it is a menial job.

[sonic mural]

technological revolutions just keep getting bigger with each one, this one will be the most impactful yet. it's honestly pretty scary, the range of what "robots that can think like humans" can do one day.

in like 500 years humans will revolt and lead a butlerian jihad

[hallow sable]

Congratulations! you are now promoted to: Unemployed

[quick token]

the funniest thing to me is that it's more an endictment about humanity than AI

[hallow sable]

It always has been

[quick token]

if an AI thinks like a human that includes human morality

[hallow sable]

Same with ever other major issue plaguing us today

[quick token]

Or I should more accurately say empathy

Which other animals have as well

[hallow sable]

If anything AI will probably go Ultron and decide that earth is better off without humanity

[sonic mural]

honestly it's not even being overly doomer about AI, it's just being realistic. if you're not worried you either have a job that's somehow untouchable by AI (which is now impossible as you can tell fucking illustrators get replaced) or don't have a job at all.

[hallow sable]

Empathy in humans and animals alike is a trait extended to our own kin. AI will think above is, in a way will will not be able to think in. They will see us as a separate species to them, and if we pose a threat to them then as humans would, they would retaliate

[quick token]

I think it depends a lot on how they're made

[hallow sable]

It’s mutually assured destruction. Just like humans think.

If anything it’s even worse if AI thinks like Us

[quick token]

It's interesting to hear like how chess masters felt playing against alphazero

Basically it's the AI they just taught the rules of chess, then had it play against itself for a few hours

No human intervention ie. move lists at all

And the chessmasters said it was like playing against an alien race that came down to earth just to school us at chess

Beating grandmasters after like 4 hours of self training

It's the lack of humann direction that let it think of moves we never could

But also makes it way less "ethical" I'd say

In the sense of us being able to empathize with it or it with us

[sonic mural]

wars, ecological disasters, all made by people in high places. people can be good. people ARE good. you just have to see behind the paper thin wall of cruelty to see that behind all that, humans can have empathy too

[hallow sable]

Again, AI simply outclasses humanity in every way, in all reality, it’s like we’re making our own god, a super being beyond human comprehension.

And all it takes is an Ai left to its own devices with the prompt to learn as much as it can, to learn and improve.

Humans have a limit. AI does not.

[loud rock]

The fears aren't exactly unfounded, I know scientists working on AI alignment so it's not like they aren't working through all the angles.

[sonic mural]

ai can't feel. and again it's always the lower class jobs that get affected, people in higher places get to sit back with the benefits

i'm fortunate enough to be called someone that can somewhat 'relax', but a lot of people aren't as lucky

[loud rock]

I just find it weird that AI doing art of all things causes more existential panic than the times it literally kills people with hellfire missiles.

Well to divert somewhat back to the channel topic, here's some AI generated Wardens I did with today's experiments

[waxen crane]

this isn't rlly art but gamma all the way down is rlly cool for pictures

[waxen crane]

this too

[high pagoda]

I'm definitely better than a robot

[high pagoda]

AI is useful because it's not sentient

[hushed cairn]

Let’s make animals sentient and blame them for all the abuses that have happened to AI

[high pagoda]

Which animals?

[hushed cairn]

I guess monkeys

They’re cousin species so the AI might get confused

[high pagoda]

Just overload the AI with pictures of monkeys while calling them human.

This is what I think of when someone says AI will replace humans.

[carmine jolt]

we already have enough bored apes

[high pagoda]

Sentient AI that is only interested in creating NFTs

[carmine jolt]

dystopia

[high pagoda]

Literally 1984

[signal grail]

Get this, if a sentient ai is made in a way where it will improve itself based on human activity. All it will do is watch porn

[sonic mural]

1 hour landscape study

[twin leaf]

only to me ten mins to figure out that this is a landscape dunno why you had to study it for an hour

[sonic mural]

[drowsy garnet]

Landscape study result: this isn't in foxhole, cringe location

[carmine jolt]

very nice

[hallow sable]

Gotdamm that’s gorgeous

[sonic mural]

thank you

[bright coral]

Everyone and their grandfather is doing lawn care services around where I live

Definitely a sight to see

[ivory tusk]

Extremely good

[bright coral]

Indeed

[sonic mural]

thank you

[frigid arch]

beuty

[hallow sable]

size comparison

[high ledge]

need scale "anchors" (small markers/pods) that will also create depth, although this is later detail

[hallow sable]

better pic for comparison

And here’s the smallest ship there on the bottom next to a tank and a human

[high ledge]

ngl they all seem too flat, no texture (hard to do) or detail on the hull

good work doe

more panels/entry hatches for outside maintenance (especially smaller hatches) and maybe even some minimalistic ladders

this will be a lot of work but trust me it will look good

[bright coral]

This is still sprocket, right?

Im questioning it at this point

[hallow sable]

still wip

[high ledge]

wait it sproket

bruh

i thought this some FTD/other builder game

[bright coral]

(disregarding the fact that the game's intention was made solely for tanks and not starcraft)

apparently not

you silly scoundrel, you

https://tenor.com/view/do-i-give-a-damn-gif-22725215

[hallow sable]

Nope it’s sprocker

[high ledge]

Ohh it spoker

[hallow sable]

working on details

[high pagoda]

chenille saint chamond 1921

[high pagoda]

Have you ever heard of From The Depths? Seems like it would allow you to do this

[hallow sable]

That’s a ship making game with a different system of building, I wouldn’t be able to model it like I do in sprocket, which is almost like a simplified version of blender

[eternal marlin]

@safe star does the little warden girl you made have a name?

[faint badger]

@twin leaf how did u get those assets???

[eternal marlin]

I understand that, but even just random ocs in some gimmick comic are given names by the artist that drew them. Just was curious if little warden girl who commits Shellshocked tomfoolery had a name

[carmine jolt]

understandable struggle

[meager raptor]

Xin xi

Cymanti

Elysian

etc...

;)

[carmine jolt]

they dont want to give her a name and that's fitting

[meager raptor]

Ok

[hallow sable]

Gunna call this done for now so I can work on other things

[trail vessel]

nice frigate :>

[carmine jolt]

awesome shit

[hallow sable]

@trail vessel @carmine jolt thanks 🙏

[twin leaf]

you can rip models from the game using the unreal exporter then rebuild them in a 3d program of your choice

[faint badger]

what is unreal exporter? I have been looking for 3d models for a while now lmao

[twin leaf]

https://www.gildor.org/en/projects/umodel
i use this one but there are others

if you use blender like me you will need the PSK importer

https://github.com/Befzz/blender3d_import_psk_psa

[faint badger]

cheers!

[twin leaf]

this works for all blender patches after 2.8

[faint badger]

yeah I use the newest blender version

[faint badger]

Is this an addon?

[twin leaf]

yep

[faint badger]

ah

[bright coral]

Have you ever translated your modeling skills to other programs? Like Blender?

[twin leaf]

heres the plugin file so you dont have to dig through the utter trash pile that is github

[hallow sable]

Never really though much of it since I haven’t really ever used blender, I trained myself through sprocket when the modeling system came

[faint badger]

got it!

[bright coral]

I see

[bright coral]

Perhaps give it a try, maybe youll have fun

Could probably make money if you enjoy doing it too

[faint badger]

is their a tutorial for using unreal viewer?

nvm got it

[twin leaf]

put the exe next to the foxhole exe in the steam commons

then when you open it set the UE override to UE 4 and 4.24

the models will be under war>content>meshes

when you extract a mesh it ill pull all the textures too

[faint badger]

cool

[twin leaf]

some meshes use old fashioned 3ds max mat files so are very hard to work with

but 99.99% is plug and play

[faint badger]

yeah

got it working

cheers!

[hallow sable]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[faint badger]

got an error in the viewer trying to export :/

nvm got it, I was using 4.23

not 4.24

[hushed cairn]

#foxhole-creative message if anyone doesnt know this song, theres a brilliant animation by nina paley that uses it from years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

[runic linden]

God help me with these lines

[high ledge]

what is it ?

look good tho !!

[runic linden]

school project, making a public pavilion

[high ledge]

very nice !!

you get good grade i promise !!

[runic linden]

cheers

[high ledge]

Look great!

[carmine jolt]

i am not seeing this as snow, chief

looks awesome btw lol

[drowsy garnet]

Same

[hallow sable]

Wait that’s supposed to be snow? I thought it was

model looks great btw

[cerulean anvil]

Bro that's snow?!

[earnest otter]

Regional camouflage options.
Imagine that.

That, and all the horror of realizing a bush is moving towards you from behind.

[fierce flare]

@carmine jolt would be colored?

[carmine jolt]

they wanted just line so

[daring ferry]

@carmine jolt congrats on managing to get out of the ganiiling drawing spiral

[carmine jolt]

:DD

[fierce flare]

anyway masterpiece

[carmine jolt]

thankee 🥰

[craggy ruin]

Warden art be dominating ... Do I need to pay for some collies again

[drowsy garnet]

here's your collie art

[craggy ruin]

Thanks

[drowsy garnet]

brave isg team defending

[craggy ruin]

Love it

[drowsy garnet]

the isg has been upgraded thanks to the new modification system coming in 1.0

it now has office chair wheels attached at the legs

[craggy ruin]

WO MAN

THAT is too powerful

[drowsy garnet]

honestly man

would make it actually op

but dont worry, cause it's office chair wheels

it gets stuck at every cable in your room, so you'll have to get the cable out of the way.. somehow

[high ledge]

God I’m such a simp for mummy’s art

It’s so good

[high pagoda]

Thoughts on Colonial Amphbious tank?

[spice sparrow]

health, speed, armament?

[high pagoda]

Flamethrower, Rockets, or mortar

[spice sparrow]

flame tank would be cursed in game

rockets would be ok

mortar,……… no

may as well make a GB

30mm with 40m range would be interesting

[soft anchor]

Colonial light tank with 2 ISG for the main gun

But of course it’s open topped

[spice sparrow]

twin isg tank would be cool too

[hallow sable]

I’m mentally breaking hamish

He’s going to have enough of my shit and revoke my right to the game I payed for 💀💀😭💀😭💀

[spice sparrow]

give collie amphibious tank

give warden up armoured APC with 12.7

maybe

actually thats too strong

6 lads in the back with stickies…..

come back to this when naval update comes

in like

20 years

[high pagoda]

I should clarify that I meant howitzer like this

[hallow sable]

on my list of things to do

[spice sparrow]

assault mortar

[high pagoda]

Maybe 100-120 mm?

[spice sparrow]

short range 120

now thats interesting

that would be really funny on land

roll up to trench cancer

remove infantry

[high pagoda]

Or a rocket launcher system like this. Something to destroy fortifications basically

[spice sparrow]

copy paste RPG AC turret on lvat chassis

[high pagoda]

Yes

[high ledge]

Going to second the plan of “put Gemini turret on amphibious chassis”

[shell relic]

How do get in that channel

Shadow practice

[bright coral]

very defined muscular features

[thorn spade]

my idea for an empire flag

its the Bugaran-Relestian union

a combination of Bugaras (the 1st) and relesti (the 2nd)

my idea was for the flags to be able to fit together

and for the last flag where its them together, imagine it so that they fit together with the triangles

ye ye

[hushed cairn]

European

[kind willow]

I give you the lower german empire which is best ofr this flag

[high pagoda]

I like it

[high pagoda]

Top, but put blue on top, white in middle and red at bottom

[thorn spade]

also this

[kind willow]

now slavic flag

[thorn spade]

raw

[high pagoda]

Epic

[high pagoda]

Mecklenburg

[thorn spade]

Thank you sm

[tropic topaz]

I see your high quality art and i give you this plane doodle i made and am way to proud of!

[dusky saffron]

Looks cool

[high pagoda]

X-COM laser tank

[burnt wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mndhn7P_PQQ

[thorn spade]

rough idea of the Kulikov m1887 rifle, used by the Lilkovan empire since 1887

[high pagoda]

Wondering how the guns in the Chieftain are aimed

[kind willow]

sctosih irish cloinail troops.

[high pagoda]

Orient Chapter 30

[lilac scarab]

I imagine the turret is aimed by a bunch of notches indicating angle and distance, the gunner not seeing their target at all

Their target being communicated by the spotter

(I see no vision slit for the 250mm gunner)

[frigid monolith]

the 250mm gunner doesn't need a slit since the commander spots i believe

[lilac scarab]

I still stand by what I said :7

[cobalt kayak]

Foxhole magic

[hallow sable]

no gunner sights

[cobalt kayak]

virgin having actual sighting equipment vs Chad “Just Guess Lmao”

[runic linden]

“Callahan guides my bullets”

[frigid arch]

Turret Has viewport

Cant say that about 250mm tho

Need to check model

[deep pagoda]

Look down the barrel

[frank beacon]

given 250's... likely look down the barrel first, shove the round in, bloop

[iron tinsel]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Type-89-Aberdeen.0003cg4s.jpg Type 89 "I-Go"

anyone else really like the way this tank looks?

[spice sparrow]

no

20’s 30’s tank pretty fugly

only a few exceptions

[frank beacon]

• asbestos lining moment

[frigid monolith]

it looks like a big brother for the FT-17

[high pagoda]

I like the Ka-Mi and the Chi-Ha

[hallow sable]

I mean the Japanese did originally start their dive into tank technology by acquiring an FT-17

The US funnily also did the same

But they quickly pursued designed their aligned more to their doctrine, so they never tried copying the FT-17 after ww1

[maiden iris]

Soon

[frigid monolith]

not a bad idea tho

[hallow sable]

The Japanese basically just made bigger FT-17s until they got to the Chi-Ha and related tanks were they started more developing their own style of doctrine and tank design

Though ofc the Navy stealing all their steel and production left the army effectively unable to advance their tank technology quick enough

[hallow sable]

I mean your trying to push a ww1 tank into a new age of warfare, it’s going to get rapidly outclassed by newer tanks fully taking advantage of technological advancements

[frigid monolith]

too bad only some people realized that

[high ledge]

Adorable

[brave heart]

the tank is derived from the vickers mk D, not french

[hallow sable]

Yeah I see it

But because it’s British

Making it derived its even worse

[high pagoda]

thoughts on this so far?

[bleak elk]

I like the perspective

It also feels Battletech’ish
Whatever it might mean lol

[vague dust]

Vickers Medium

[frigid arch]

a creation

[spice sparrow]

kinda got taurian colors

[frank beacon]

The O'brien V.388 Iceberg

[kind willow]

holy korea empire

[high pagoda]

I wonder how this came about

[kind willow]

the spahish inqustion

republic Korea

[hushed cairn]

Character development, you started cropping the top of the screen

Now let’s see you crop around the entire flag so it’s just the flag

[high pagoda]

Horse drawn armored gun, Clapfoot please

[brisk siren]

too many colors hurt my eyes, too many symbols mashed together

[slender vapor]

I need a good artist for a discord logo for a twitch streamer

Any takers?

[upper oasis]

Polish Japan?

[maiden iris]

Continued

Pain peko

[drowsy garnet]

She does have a nice cannon tho 😳

[past robin]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[hallow sable]

The perspective is jus 👌

[high pagoda]

Thanks👍 😎

[hallow sable]

h

[high ledge]

Space ship!

Local shark boy continues to assert dominance over sprocket

[high ledge]

It should be rough

Like sharkskin

[bright coral]

That is sort of Libbs thing at this point, isnt it?

[high pagoda]

What should a Plasma gun look like?

[bright coral]

Id say logically there would be a complicated/big cooling system

Thinking in Star Wars kitbashes

Giant water-cooling contraption

[hallow sable]

Honestly there’s a myriad of ways as no plasma based weapons exist today or are in experimental form, the closest thing we have are plasma cutters which don’t look too different from a standard soldering iron kits

[high pagoda]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER#:~:text=MARAUDER (Magnetically%20Accelerated%20Ring%20to,to%20develop%20plasma%2Dbased%20projectiles.

Please US Government I just need one picture

Doesn't have to be accurate, I just want it to look functional. These are the best I've found.

[hallow sable]

Oh so plasma railguns are also on the list of what we’ll call plasma weapons, in that case you could follow more closely to the designs of actual railguns and try to make it that it fires a plasma toroids rather than the typical Solid projectile

Plasma railguns would function more like a HE shot while Projectile railguns are more AP oriented.

[high pagoda]

I consider anything that shoots hot gas a Plasma gun

Hmm. Napalm might still work better though

I think flamethrowers switched from gas to liquid a long time ago. I could be wrong though

And dissipates quickly

Yeah

[hallow sable]

Titanfall has some good aesthetics, you can still it’s derived from a Railgun but it’s still it’s own weapon, and still looks like something that could work

[bright coral]

Great game

[tropic topaz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/469453226929029122/969377574125981777/Screen_Shot_2022-04-28_at_7.18.31_PM.png check out my steelsona

[trim flower]

Cursed

Sort of cursed.

The tank itself is awesome but why the ears 🗿

[tropic topaz]

Its my steelsona

[hallow sable]

[meager raptor]

there's nothing to see here

[high pagoda]

Sherman ARV Mk.II

[pure harness]

Burn it.

Just why

[past robin]

it's to have a vehicle to recover other vehicles with

cause it has a crane

[pure harness]

Ahhh

Ok

Still uglee tho

[past robin]

alright, seen worse Sherman variants but sure

[static knot]

blessed

[bright coral]

Okay, what?

[tropic topaz]

What

I made it in photoshop

Im not that good at drawing

[bright coral]

What tank is that?

@carmine jolt how much for comsiision?

[brave heart]

l3/33 tankette

[high ledge]

Both the tankette and your pfp are cute

[autumn leaf]

Id actually love to have this in game

[high pagoda]

It would be very fitting

[high ledge]

Puma hours

[frigid arch]

I got more designs

[spiral bridge]

I fr woke up and accidentally made a Pokémon character Swedish army girl

[high ledge]

She’s cute

[frigid arch]

A creation smoller didnt change much like in previus creation

[shell flax]

Original

The "fixed" one

[thorn spade]

yo which version do yall think is the best rifle design?

the Sharpe rifle

which is best lol

[high pagoda]

2nd picture

[thorn spade]

based

thank you tho lol

based the bolt off this dumb shit cuz I love it

[bright coral]

Thats pretty funny looking all right

Just looking at it makes me really want to try it out

This kind of weapon is selling at around 4000~ at auctions. Aw man.

[high ledge]

I passed one up once

I still regret it

[thorn spade]

ur kidding

bro

dang

that sucks

a tragedy

[high ledge]

I was unfamiliar with the rifle at the time, should've done my research

[thorn spade]

lol yah I fuckin love it sm

such a wacky straight(?) pull rifle

[high ledge]

it was a sporter so it looked like just another old surplus bolty

[thorn spade]

ahhh

yah most are sporters now unfortnately

then again I bet 6mm ammo is not cheap

[high ledge]

Nah

[thorn spade]

damn fr?

I've been tryna find carcano ammo and its bet a bit more than I wanna pay

[maiden iris]

Asdfgjfsd

[carmine jolt]

dm what you have in mind :]

[high ledge]

mood

[shell relic]

Probably not worth it

[bright coral]

We’ll see about that

[shell relic]

I thought ganii was selling

[bright coral]

yep

[bright coral]

is that... a bunny girl outfit?

[shell relic]

Yes

Sorry

[bright coral]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnamflashback-gif-7780922

[shell relic]

Did I do it bad

[bright coral]

No, its fine

[shell relic]

Oh ok

[bright coral]

Ive just had a couple episodes involving an obnoxious person in a bunny outfit

Sparked a memory that i thought was funny and ironic

[shell relic]

Oh ok

[shell valve]

enjoy their little performance 😉

[carmine jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802982042887127091/955265548546088980/E34C4500-0C22-4ED9-8660-C57046C43809.gif

[high ledge]

bam

done

[bright coral]

The Ganii face on Kirby is strikingly fitting

[carmine jolt]

brother

[brisk siren]

oops forgot something

[high pagoda]

Chinese soldier

[carmine jolt]

what the fuck is this fit

fucking pajama warriors lmfao

[high pagoda]

téngpáiyíng

The Chinese also had "Dadao Teams" during the Second Sino-Japanese War.

[carmine jolt]

now THAT looks cool

aint ever going to battle with this fit damn

[sonic mural]

bedtime battlers

[carmine jolt]

god's sleepiest soldiers

[high pagoda]

Chinese-Aztec Unity

[drowsy garnet]

Damn, with a helmet this big, aint no attack hitting his head

[sonic mural]

comfiest? coziest? idk

saya tidak bisa English

[carmine jolt]

comfiest works

[brave heart]

!!persia joins the slumber party!!

[drowsy garnet]

Tf they stole the smurf hats

[runic linden]

Yeah I drew this in the middle of the night on my phone, how could you tell?

[drowsy garnet]

How did i not think of this

[humble jetty]

furry soldiers, there where some in Afghanistan too till the 20s

[spice sparrow]

Ozark

stop

ill come and eat you

[hallow sable]

"Logistics is the ball and chain of armored warfare."

[high ledge]

I like trains

[spice sparrow]

whaa

uh

whhhh

no

why

heheheh

Devman give no train?

makes own train

[meager raptor]

Nonsense