your mistake was you misspelled it
#art-discussion
carmine jolt
oh buddy
neat niche
Thought robo furries were called smth that started with a p
viscid haven
I'm ready to dig my own grave, Are you?
carmine jolt
buddy...
high ledge
Thought robo furries were called smth that started with a p
Thoes are protogens and their diffrent
neat niche
a.
viscid haven
come on Normann, even I wouldn't go THAT FAR
neat niche
come on Normann, even I wouldn't go THAT FAR
I need answers
viscid haven
Eh, to hell with it
neat niche
L
viscid haven
let me know! I desire knowledge
high ledge
Basically
Synths=scalie robot
Protogens=robot with fur thats free to public
Primeagins=protogens but copyrighted
carmine jolt
curiosity is the first step
admonishment is the second
and it all goes down from there
carmine jolt
stage three, denial
high ledge
XD
viscid haven
What is stage four?
high ledge
stage three, denial
I never had stage 4
neat niche
Depression
high ledge
I legit made a oc befire i knew furries exsisted
carmine jolt
bargaining
viscid haven
@high ledge Experienced, Aren't you?
neat niche
Finding a community is somewhere in there, at that point you're fully in it
high ledge
<@456226577798135808> Experienced, Aren't you?
Wdym
viscid haven
Basically
Synths=scalie robot
Protogens=robot with fur thats free to public
Prim...
Yes
high ledge
Yes what
neat niche
stage 6 is without description
Stage 6 you enter the 9 levels of furry Hell
With otherkin right at the bottom
viscid haven
Christ allmighty
high ledge
May i say no
Otherkin are not the same
neat niche
People who represent themselves with animals isn't too far from people who think they're animals
Though it's a large leap
high ledge
Otherkin believe they are animals and act as so. We just like the look of anthro animals
viscid haven
its at the bottom of the ladder
neat niche
Otherkin believe they are animals and act as so. We just like the look of anthro...
This is true, why they're at the very bottom
viscid haven
but it doesn't look to be too far off of dressing up as animals
neat niche
But I can't hate on furries, they're usually nice people
every fandom has their nuts
carmine jolt
"keep it to yourself" routine
high ledge
Tbh the furcon i went to was nothing like the stories i heard
neat niche
You've been to a furcon?
high ledge
Da
viscid haven
Eh, Furries are a very broad group of people
neat niche
This is true
high ledge
I have met an otherkin before and they are very not like the furries i hang around
viscid haven
Though all the tolerable furries I've met all have one thing in common, and thats they know when you stop talking about their fursona
high ledge
What?
viscid haven
A Fursona isn't a standin for a personality, you catch me?
neat niche
I've always understood at is a fun thing to represent themselves
high ledge
Idk what you mean by "stop talking about their fursona"
neat niche
Probably a grammar error
high ledge
I've always understood at is a fun thing to represent themselves
I know some who use it as a "i wish i was this personality" but i use it as just
"I like blue, gold, and black. And this animal looks good."
viscid haven
Ah, I did word that poorly
I just keep my distance as soon as somebody wants to be called the name of their OC over their username x_x
high ledge
My username is my oc kinda
Long story short the name was a starwars name that i used to name the robot guy
But my actual discord name is my pfps name
high ledge
I gotta know, if you had to define it - what makes someone a furry?
I say it by what furries are. Which is people who like the looks of anthro animals. Ie finds them cute, likes the art style, and in case of some sexually attracted
carmine jolt
of all the years the internet existed im pretty sure there's already a general consensus on what constitutes someone as a furry
high ledge
Im not normal in my definitions ever
neat niche
eh, I've always thought of it as someone who's interested in the fandom
high ledge
I just keep my distance as soon as somebody wants to be called the name of their...
To add to this i hate people calling me Zïer irl
viscid haven
of all the years the internet existed im pretty sure there's already a general c...
but we solicited Trooper655's Opinion on it
high ledge
Im not the best one to take what "furries see it as" xD
neat niche
ha
I just wanna gain info on the community tbh
It's interesting
I sold my soul the moment I bought changed, but
I'm holding out for now
high ledge
Oof
viscid haven
Happy findings
viscid haven
oh dang, I completely forgot this was the Foxhole discord
high ledge
XD
neat niche
lol same
carmine jolt
the F on FOD changes depending on the situation
high ledge
XD
neat niche
"It's called Foxhole, no, not that kind of foxhole"
carmine jolt
where is that review again...
high ledge
Cuz i got almost 20 messages saying something like "playing foxhole uwu"
And i just sighed in disappointment
viscid haven
This is why people drink
carmine jolt
there we go
high ledge
Maybe im to into war
Cuz i only got this game cuz of free give away and i only thought of the entrenchment foxhole
viscid haven
Dang, you really are a pure soul
neat niche
I think.... they knew what they were doing
carmine jolt
Cuz they play warden
furries playing wardens???
impossible...
this is blasphemous to the highest order
neat niche
Am warden, can confirm, there are furries
high ledge
I will not point them out then
neat niche
Is said server some furry - foxhole cult?
neat niche
quite
viscid haven
and not just in a "Asking for a friend" type of way
it was a fun talk, cheers
and good night
neat niche
it was a fun talk, cheers
Yeah, gn
ripe moon
As someone with a dumb story thats somewhat similar its possible he was ignorant. For me, I knew that it was persistent warfare but I didn't know how long a single war could last and how complicated the mechanics were. I would need to put a lot of time & energy into it that I just simply didn't have available at the time.
Despite all this, the hour that I played was absolutely wonderful! I chose Colonials, spawned in, had no idea what I was doing. So I grabbed a rifle & asked if some people were willing to help me out & sure enough someone was willing to assist me. He was apparently supposed to take a supply truck north twords the front lines so he had me tag along.
We drove to some town and delivered the supplies then a squad came by gathering people for a counter attack to repel some kind of push the Wardens were doing. We joined up with them & headed deeper into the town where I would be in my first (and only) fire fight! I was however killed in battle by an off screen enemy without even firing my rifle once....
And that was it. My little experience with the game. I graduated this summer & will be getting my own place soon enough. Once I get myself a good PC I'm 100% going to play this game long term.
daring ferry
Sergeant, there is an enemy tank going down the blockade
drowsy garnet
just ignore the fact that every building is freaking immense
daring ferry
Just texture them as warehouses
daring ferry
Stack infantry for measurements, it's a bit easier to visualise the scale
daring ferry
Is it meant to be nimated at the end? If yes, go for first person you'll have less stuff to animate
drowsy garnet
Is it meant to be nimated at the end? If yes, go for first person you'll have le...
ye that's what i've been looking to do
daring ferry
do the whacky legs
drowsy garnet
idk what FOV should i set for the camera tho
drowsy garnet
yeah i'm just doing whatever looks good for now
daring ferry
If you go 1st person you'll have to get good character animations tho
And good close up graphics
You can always go top down x)
high ledge
just ignore the fact that every building is freaking immense
AAAAAAAAA
drowsy garnet
was talking about the legs
and i want to post the close view screenshot
but it WONT ALLOW ME reeee
high ledge
let me post
drowsy garnet
there we go
daring ferry
Now that I look at the close up it looks like a handles fat dude shorting a camera out of his eyes
And I like it
halcyon lantern
bruh did you merge the objects well?
I always select all objects of a soldier's body, click J or ctrl+J (I forgot) and then use the pose tool while deleting the objectless skeletons
drowsy garnet
Hmm
Oh the thic part is just me messing with sculpting tool
and it doesnt need hands or helmet, couse i was just testing out the camera
remote lynx
Mine is a disembodied floating one
cunning kettle
Half track so far
bright jay
Maybe the driver is too far back?
cunning kettle
distant crag
@cunning kettle what is the name of the program you are using?
cunning kettle
distant crag
Awesome thanks man
cunning kettle
cosmic bough
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/652186192925818900/772842223216623616/Sherman_Centipede.jpg
Shoorman
neat niche
Shoorman is dummy thicc
cosmic bough
It aint about him being dummy thicc look at that suspension system
neat niche
😳
cunning kettle
Update
bright jay
oh plzpzlpzlzpzlpzl devs add ths
carmine jolt
game machine says no
cunning kettle
The other Colonial variants coming soon
near folio
Ayyyyy, hell yeah!
cunning kettle
near folio
That MHT is really nice
zinc nimbus
i love it
daring ferry
oh yeah. its all coming together.
might have to make the colonial logo more visible tho
halcyon lantern
Oooooh, nice!
daring ferry
it took me 2 days to sort out the issues in the mod builder, im so happy it finally works
round moth
if only coh 2 was as moddable as coh1 was
so u could replace tank models and soldier models
daring ferry
i mean we can always try to get the closest models as possible
round moth
then again u could just go to coh1 and do it, that game does many things better than coh2 at the end of the day
daring ferry
i really like coh2 (partly because of the graphics) x)
halcyon lantern
CoH2 is great but fuck me, when's the 64 bit finally coming?
round moth
coh2 is good, not great though
doctrines > generals, coh1 map design > coh2 map design, coh1 menu > coh2 menu
daring ferry
MHT time
halcyon lantern
Are you actually modding in the factions or just the emblems?
halcyon lantern
u cant mod in custom models into coh2 as said above
I know that
I play CoH2 with mods as well, but I mean like a "faction" mod, basically renaming and changing stats of vehicles to those from foxhole
daring ferry
yeah i was thinking about that also
round moth
why tho
halcyon lantern
Collies would just have riflemen uniforms while wardens uhh... rear echelons?
Dunno who else wears coats.
round moth
I mean to me that really seems like wasted effort but could just be me ig
daring ferry
i don't have the talent to make custom models anyway
halcyon lantern
Eh, it depends how hard modding is. If Someone just wants to do it for fun then go for it.
That'd require some basic knowledge of CoH2 modding tho
daring ferry
the modding editor is pretty easy to use as long as you don't fuck up the folder tree or the IDs
for balance packs you literally pick stuff from a library once you have made the basic file structure, the mod editor does a lot for you
halcyon lantern
Huh.
distant crag
Where is everyone getting the foxhole models from?
near folio
Where is everyone getting the foxhole models from?
Most probably get them from the game files, but some get them from the website they're posted on
cosmic bough
distant crag
Ah yes as far as I’m aware there isn’t a download option for them on sketchfab.
cosmic bough
Well its pretty good for reference pictures
distant crag
Yeah that’s what I’ve been using them for haha. Thanks guys
halcyon lantern
umodel
distant crag
Aaaaahhhhhhh dam son thanks.
marsh cedar
is that a Kv-2 ?
daring ferry
is that a Kv-2 ?
yup
drowsy garnet
if you want to put textures on them, valarag made all the nodes necessary for blender
daring ferry
i'm not 100% sure the thing i made works, if it doesn't, you can always do the setup manually
here is the setup
the message Janko links to is just a node group of this
high ledge
Jaffa! Kree!
remote lynx
high ledge
@remote lynx thank you, i needed that, lmao
remote lynx
@high ledge https://i.imgur.com/Bg3Bj9B.mp4
fading thistle
I would ask, why she looks so naked, but I know that is rhetorical question for you
halcyon lantern
...bruh not eating hot dogs with ketchup solely?
dire plinth
@unreal ingot lol, I saw that photo of the woman model covered in blood in #foxhole-creative , I immediately thought about the quote in Skyrim: "My ancestors are smiling at me, Imperial, can you say the same?"
@halcyon lantern can I ask why she's undressed and eating hot dog in an official discord? :c
ashen drum
Gotta have ketchup and mustard
dire plinth
I love the way you rendered the hair
Can I make a drawing with me and you, Kalm? We're both misfits in this harsh universe, lol.
neat niche
...bruh not eating hot dogs with ketchup solely?
A good dog needs all of the fixings, not the poor poor ball park wiener that’s depicted
shadow bobcat
Ketchup, mustard, and relish
halcyon lantern
Can I make a drawing with me and you, Kalm? We're both misfits in this harsh uni...
Go for it.
And as for eating when undressed uhh... she was hungry.
neat niche
Onions, maybe chili and cheese
halcyon lantern
Hair was kinda lazy this time. The shading I mean, kinda sloppy in some spots.
halcyon lantern
hey I eat that type of simplistic hot dog irl
dire plinth
Not really, it looks okay to me. And I have a big struggle with hair since I am forced to paint every lock of hair, mostly because my artstyle is pretty much painting over painting (I apply a lot of principles from oil or acrilic painting)
neat niche
hey I eat that type of simplistic hot dog irl
Not even a little mustard?
halcyon lantern
Yeah I like your style a lot, though it looks to be really time-consuming.
meanwhile mine is kinda slowly evolving from just doodling lineart, my next goal is more dynamic poses though, Bubba did them and I should finally start making more as well. Not that I can't, but I just never get around to it due to The Lazies
dire plinth
It is very consuming, but I compensate through shortcuts (using shortcuts on keyboard, having helpful self-made brushes, working on a clean canvas and workspace in Photoshop, thinking only about the big picture and leaving unrendered or low rendered details where the camera is losing focus, etc.)
halcyon lantern
Huuh, good idea.
dire plinth
And to be honest, it is less consuming once you get used to it, you just start color picking and cutting edges, it isn't really rocket science, you can do it, too. With the correct brush for the correct job, you can achieve anything. (Boring brushes achieve boring results)
halcyon lantern
Right, meanwhile I just G-pen my way through the lineart and then use the fill tool and a watercolour brush for colours.
dire plinth
Brushes aren't everything and they are never gonan make a difference, unless you use them in the correct way. Like, I made myself a hair brush out of parallel lines. I also use it fod grass, and here is the result:
I say you should use both G and maru. You using clip studio? (Aka ex-manga studio)
dire plinth
Another type of tip
halcyon lantern
*Not even a little mustard?*
Also no, I dislike mustard. Ketchup for life
Is it in pens or brushes?
halcyon lantern
Hell I'm not sure it's within the default ones, unless it's named differently
dire plinth
Well, funny, cause in MS 4 you had it, in 5, too
halcyon lantern
is it more like the caligraphy pen? With changing width depending on the angle?
dire plinth
Yeah, most of pens in manga studio had it, idk if clip studio has them, too.
dire plinth
I see that's why.
Maru is a very thin nib. You use it mostly for distant details, but it is a very lovely contrast between it and Saji (the common, most used one, basically the one you'd use the most)
halcyon lantern
Well you can downscale each, but I assume there's more to it
dire plinth
Indeed, it is about the amount of pressure, the threshold, mostly about how they look depending on the angle and the amount of pressure you put while using the same brush, or in this case, pen scale.
dire plinth
Everything, but if you ask me, I would use it for small fine details, let's say hair, the circles you maks in the eye, maybe the mouth, idk, you name it. It's about line contrast.
halcyon lantern
Huh, so it's a bit better at handling long, thin lines?
Cause the G-pen has this thing of making the middle a tad thick depending on the pressure applied.
dire plinth
Exactly.
halcyon lantern
Maybe I can find some free one on the Clip Studio thingo
dire plinth
Might not look like it, but my first contact with arts was through inking. This is like the last thing I did lineart only. All others since then were painted.
I miss this thing, I wish to come back into comic books, manga, etc.
halcyon lantern
Woah
dire plinth
But am bad at cel shading. Really bad. I still end up painting.
halcyon lantern
Eh, I haven't gotten that good at cell shading either, but that's due to me being in this weird limbo between wanting nice, smooth shading and stylistic simplicity.
dire plinth
Though, you'd only win if you'd do cell shading and then smoothing it out a bit with some smooth realistic shading. But it won't work without contrast. Like in comic book, you sometimes see smooth shading, but when it is used, it is shaded using blue instead of idk, brown or dark red, for skin, for example.
Without that contrast, it would look dull.
halcyon lantern
I generally use some sort of simplified realistic shading, where when there's some round surface, it recieves smooth shading, but if there's something casting a shadow ontop of something else, that is done sharp.
dire plinth
Got an example?
halcyon lantern
Uhh, I had this one I did in a hurry for a friend's birthday, so it was done using the blur tool. I don't often colourise until very recently.
dire plinth
Ah, but hey, what you do is exactly the bery basic principle of shading.
halcyon lantern
so for example
dire plinth
Yeah, that is correct, but see, it isn't shading that looks dull, but the colours.
Though the shading you did was correct, too
halcyon lantern
Glad to hear that
Though yes, this picture is like many of mine done in a big white box.
...that doesn't cast reflecting light
I'm aware of how bright surfaces usually reflect the light back onto the object, but I generally don't go for backgrounds currently, but I do keep it in mind for the future.
dire plinth
Hey, I can give this one as a good example. My art teacher helped me a lot. He told me: always make the colours roam on the painting. I think it is pretty obvious I have like 3-4 colours in total in here.
Though, he taught me contrast with this one.
halcyon lantern
I see
dire plinth
The fact you can shade this well, it doesn't matter if the backgroudn is white, it is more about the connection between the shadow and light. Also, in your case, the blue gloves should have been more saturated. While the coat looks really okay with that sort of gray. As a general rule, all dark surfaces will look much more saturated in colour on shadows, while the light coloured surfaces will look less saturated.
halcyon lantern
Hmm...
dire plinth
On top of that, shading with colours adds to the chromatic, let's call it, variation, or depth of the drawing.
But shading with black is never ever considered a mistake. You can use black just as well.
But it is always about the way you render it and the contrast.
halcyon lantern
I already try to use separate shadow layers for different hues/colours, but the thing with darkness and saturation I haven't heard I think.
daring ferry
Why do you have to overcomplicate things, reject art, embrace schematics
halcyon lantern
so that's a first, thanks for letting me know
dire plinth
Mhm, try to explore it on paintings, even anime paintings do that pretty often, I saw it in heroes comic books, too.
halcyon lantern
Yeah, I'd have to try drawing something as a dedicated test of colour composition. I'll try to come up with some idea for it.
halcyon lantern
no probs, I can see the important bits, like her neck casting different shadows than her left shoulder, probably due to being surrounded by dark hair and such.
dire plinth
Look at the blue and the red on their clothes, then check the most saturated colour on the skin.
Skin is pale, most saturated colour is just dark, and also pale. Though for a darker colour, it is more saturated, more vibrant in shadow.
halcyon lantern
Yeah I can see.
I'll have to give it some testing.
Oh here's another example of me shading.
I think the bag could have used more saturation on the shadow.
dire plinth
Ah, perfect, so, fro mthe middle line, the more you go under it, the more you go after the more saturated dark red. The more you go above with the main colour, the more you go to the white (so you start losing the saturation of the colour)
In thsi case, with that red, lights should have been a bit above the middle line, shadows a bit bellow.
halcyon lantern
ah
dire plinth
The closer you are to white on the colour picker, the more you start using the darker but less saturated values, to the left side of the picker, the closer you are to black, the more you start using the more saturated, more red colours, to the right.
dire plinth
Yep
halcyon lantern
...but when it is here...? Wait are you talking exclusively about the shadows right now?
halcyon lantern
Oooh wait... so the shadow loses saturation from the basic colour?
halcyon lantern
...what about things in the exact middle line? do they go straight down?
dire plinth
If the base colour is lighter, it is losing the saturation in shadow, if the base colour is darker, vice versa.
drowsy garnet
.. ewww colors
dire plinth
You can do lights with the above and shading with colours below.
If it's in the middle.
halcyon lantern
Hmm, did some test balls
dire plinth
Nah, first one is too gray, give it a bit more colour, buf it is okay.
halcyon lantern
oh so not too much
violet plank
shadowing also changes depending on the art style you use :P first one fits for a more gray art style, maybe for a game on Mars or something
dire plinth
Yeah, don't go crazy, especially on lighter colours.
dire plinth
That is a bit better.
halcyon lantern
So I presume the lighter the colour, the less of a difference the shadow should have...?
Hmm, there's one thing that doesn't add up though! That being skin, most artists I've seen had the shadow of the skin be a bit more saturated than the standard tone, not less! I'mma provide an example.
dire plinth
@violet plank indeed, but styles are pretexts, the way you visualize, yet you shouldn't ignore the fundamentals. All I am saying is related to physics. It is related to the amount of light an object absorbs which gives us information on the colour, too. Reason why the picker above has 2 sliders: brightness and saturation.
halcyon lantern
So here's two skinballs, one the system provided by you, and on the right - more-or-less the one I use.
That being - skin shadow being more saturated and more reddish (orangey tbp) than the standard one
dire plinth
Ah, problem here is that skin can't really be this bright.
halcyon lantern
Huh.
dire plinth
The skin colour you used is too bright.
In the example.
Do the same with a bit of a darker tone
And go towards orange a bit more
dire plinth
I mean, it does look right according to what I said, but it is too bright to look good using the base principle. That's why thd one on the irght looks better. Though, it looks like there is a very bright light casted on the skin which creates a very saturated shadow (to create contrast, that isn't a principle, it is just a way of making things look cool which isn't wrong at all)
halcyon lantern
I can provide some artists that I really enjoy the shading of, that I'd likely aspire to in the future.
dire plinth
Wait, you changed the hue, too for thd one on the right?
halcyon lantern
Nope
It's the same hue as the one on the left
I can change it tho
Doesn't change much though
dire plinth
Ow, but it did.
halcyon lantern
for the worse? ...or better? I'm genuinely asking
dire plinth
For the better.
halcyon lantern
Yeah I think I've noticed that in the past, that changing shadows to be more orangey makes the skin look more alive
dire plinth
Dimension. Next thing you can play with after you apply what I siad is to play with the hue.
But thati s on the big picture, with base, light and shadow.
halcyon lantern
Though I'm still puzzled by the skin-tone luminosity thing, most artists I gain inspiration from use very bright and pale skin, while the shiny parts are even paler.
dire plinth
Here comes the thing: fundamentals are always related fo realism.
halcyon lantern
Yeah I assume so. My sis also motivates me to learn realism first.
dire plinth
In this one, the artist used a lot of browns, skin colour, warm colours, so, to make things vibrant, he used a very saturated shadow on skin.
Buf that is because he understand the fundamental and he used other principles.
So many other lighter coloured parts on the character, so he took the freedom to consider her skin tone a darker colour. In relationship to the big picture, her skin is pretty dark. So that shadow makes sense. But if you want to go for a fantasy look, you start adding saturation in all shadows.
Comic books, again, they play with hues and dark colours for shadows and lights. Lots and lots of contrasts, too.
What I gave you was a fundamental. Once you understand it, you understand how it works, so you know how to play with it in different ways. Like I said here, the skin is a light colour taken separately. But look at her feet, that leather looks pretty bright, too, so if you take them together, her skin is much darker than her clothes, in relationship to the leather on her boots which is the darkest colour.
halcyon lantern
Hmm.
dire plinth
But look at that! Her shadow is forming an illusion. The border between shadow and base colour has been darkened with a more orange colour, while the real shadow on the skin is also less saturated.
This person does know how to play with colour the way they want. Just saw how there is a variation of colours in the eyes.
Sort of purple, brown, yellow, blue, a sorf kind of pink
halcyon lantern
Huh!
dire plinth
All just in her iris
halcyon lantern
Hmm, yeah I'll have to give your provided method a go soon.
Thanks for all the help
wind night
the shadows are an illusion
wind night
Hmm, an Illusory flame?
drowsy garnet
morri everyone knows that 🅱️canari is Max's alt
remote lynx
Though I'm still puzzled by the skin-tone luminosity thing, most artists I gain ...
Every time I see a picture like that I keep thinking about things like back problems, other health problems, how much those two would get in the way of daily life (including weight, goddamn) and how you're going to get clothes that fit that kind of size.
wind night
@glossy light that image thingy looks nice
bright jay
mmm how to draw robot feet 🤔 ?
violet plank
@bright jay something like this maybe?
here is a couple
i also have problems when doing 3D mech legs
bright jay
Mmmm
Too skinny
I want stumpy
Like a dreadnoughts legs
Actually...
Digi grade legs do look cool
glossy light
<@!352535638303572000> that image thingy looks nice
😀 👍
high ledge
halcyon lantern
Every time I see a picture like that I keep thinking about things like back prob...
Yesss, the struggles. They also add to the fun.
not being able to find fitting clothes and such
great minds think alike huh?
the inconvenience is fun to showcase.
halcyon lantern
👁️ 💦 what
high ledge
the inconvenience is fun to showcase.
Do you like anime.
halcyon lantern
depends which.
high ledge
*depends which.*
Do you like, Japan.
halcyon lantern
Uhhhhh.... that's a difficult question, for example I hate WW2 japan because they behaved like wild apes when in China.
high ledge
Uhhhhh.... that's a difficult question, for example I hate WW2 japan because the...
Do you like leg
halcyon lantern
Yes.
high ledge
I have just the art trend for you
halcyon lantern
👁️ 🔍 huh?
drowsy garnet
#weeb-discusion
halcyon lantern
Oooh, the leg stretch? A friend asked me if I'd draw something with this.
halcyon lantern
it's a good idea. Some new pose.
halcyon lantern
👁️ 👍
high ledge
we are practicing drawing poses
halcyon lantern
I'll just have to figure out if my character can do it unassisted, and where would the point of balance be 👁️ 💭
halcyon lantern
You mean colours?
or as in shading?
From your drawings I think that means tones of shadow, yes?
halcyon lantern
I can try that leg stretch thing today or tomorrow, we'll see.
high ledge
I’ll finish mine today
with a laptop
that is slowly becoming
a badly oiled radial engine
It sounds like a workshop when I’m drawing anything
wwwww
halcyon lantern
whew
drowsy garnet
at least you dont need a heater in your room
daring ferry
a badly oiled radial engine
I've never seen a description of my pc so accurate
Let me steal you this expression
high ledge
This was stage 1
John from Intrepid shot it with a round of Oerilekon
That is the asian food youtube channel running in the background if you are curious
anyway
Further stages saw it just degrade
shops do not open for new year here
halcyon lantern
I think that fan needs some cleaning, if it does any work at all.
high ledge
I tried
it works a little better
now it’s working
but
still sounds like a workshop
and a badly oiled cylinder
halcyon lantern
Good luck with that
drowsy garnet
hmm
you tried lookling for a replacement fan online?
maybe you can just change it cheaply
halcyon lantern
gamer fan pad 😎
drowsy garnet
is it even gonna matter, if the original fan just dies?
halcyon lantern
😎 💦 dunno!
cobalt tinsel
Are there any talented 3d modellers here, or know of one?
I want to 3d print a Bird for grandpa but i cant model that good
leaden carbon
I want to 3d print a Bird for grandpa but i cant model that good
modelling a printable model is harder than modelling for games or animations
you can always find some in yeggi if you want printable bird
@cobalt tinsel
its a search engine so you can find free and priced models
cobalt tinsel
Thanks
I have only sound one really high detail bird but i doubt my printer can do it
I am also not against making a commission to be fair
for some reason, a backyard bird isnt something people model alot xD
high ledge
Free 3D bullfinch - statue - TurboSquid 1598771
cobalt tinsel
I was looking for something with more triangles xD
drowsy garnet
@rose palm I'm not that good at animation either, but this the idea i pinged you earlier about
daring ferry
guess what
you will soon be able to play (only for decals) as wardens in coh2
still gotta put some dirt on the logos
drowsy garnet
hmm i want to play rts games but i'm not good enough
cosmic bough
Play them so you get good at them
cosmic bough
Dont you play Foxhole? You should know something about pain.
carmine jolt
CoH2 is just like foxhole but this time the units actually listen to you
drowsy garnet
i've played MoW2 and i just.. dont fucking like it
rigid plaza
i have played MOW, MOWAS2, and CTA
drowsy garnet
i hate how you have to make very precise orders or else units will do something stupid
halcyon lantern
Me neither, it's fun against AI but against players I despise MoW.
rigid plaza
MOW against players is just grenades
drowsy garnet
i hate how enemy spams stuff at you to the point where i dont have time to attack
halcyon lantern
and rocket arty
rigid plaza
never play against anyone above like 500 games or else they will nade you to death
drowsy garnet
i hate how attacking AT guns is literal suicide
halcyon lantern
wha? You don't get your AT gun one-shot by some 75mm artillery gun or mortar?
daring ferry
i hate how attacking AT guns is literal suicide
just use conscripts, they're cheaper than shells
rigid plaza
just get speedy brrt vehicle like the puma and go around the side to kill any tank
at guns just sneak a guy with a bazooka/ mortar
halcyon lantern
oh, also, MoW physics, when your armoured car hits a small stone it will immediately flip upside down.
rigid plaza
infact bazookas are so OP just get a bazooka if they have any armor at all
bazookas can pen the front of any tank other then super super heavies like king tigers
and even then just hit the side and you pen
most of the time physics work well, just know what your vehicle can run over
drowsy garnet
enemy has big arty gun that outranges me a lot and i just cant do it
rigid plaza
usually i just get destroyed by enemy inf
drowsy garnet
i spent like 5 rl hours sitting in same place trying to push and just getting obliterated, then holding the line outside of arty range
rigid plaza
i play assault zones so
halcyon lantern
You can do the asshole move known as Radioman
and just sneak around to drop a flare on his arty.
rigid plaza
lel
halcyon lantern
gamer chat
rigid plaza
ye we should probably move to general
rocky tiger
Commission
rigid plaza
going outside in short sleeves in december smh
drowsy garnet
going outside in short sleeves in december smh
climate zones reeee
rigid plaza
shhh
halcyon lantern
epic
high ledge
@rocky tiger that art is pretty pog
restive solar
I'm still more interested in pfp 
cyan parrot
going outside in short sleeves in december smh
Looks at the Canadians in shorts in December
high ledge
I draw hentai for the plot
rigid plaza
Dr.T
high ledge
Admiral T
halcyon lantern
what is this, Kantai collection?
halcyon lantern
I should try this funny print grayscale too
halcyon lantern
No, CSP
high ledge
can’t help with that then
just remember to keep the skin white
unless the character is coloured
then you need some magic
halcyon lantern
Found it
bright jay
is Studio GIMP free?
daring ferry
well GIMP is free and open source
halcyon lantern
GIMP itself is free
daring ferry
and there is always krita for drawing or more basic photo editing
bright jay
I want to make my own textures 😛
covert salmon
daring ferry
I want to make my own textures 😛
which kind of textures? and easy way with gimp would be to go from a basic one and play with the filters
its literally what i have made here
a bit of detouring, invert colours in some cases, desaturate, change the exposition and boom! done
halcyon lantern
I think the square behind it with the very thin line could be done without, on the simplified version.
daring ferry
maybe, i'll try to remove it and see how it looks
bright jay
@daring ferry Yes I wanted to make a decal and slap it on a tank
daring ferry
oh well that's gonna be easy
@halcyon lantern it does look better on the small emblem
halcyon lantern
nice
daring ferry
but i might keep it on the bigger since we don't see it anyway
halcyon lantern
Sure thingo
bright jay
Any videos/tips for gimp 🤔
daring ferry
layers are your friends, as well as the path tool
for recoloration of certain colours, use the hue-saturation tool in the colours tab
daring ferry
love from Callahan
cyan parrot
Yesss
daring ferry
bright jay
mwah
daring ferry
gotta make it more visible tho
cyan parrot
Darken the color up maybe
halcyon lantern
On the topic.
daring ferry
Gotta put a quickly painted Irish flag on the AC seeing how often it explodes
olive cove
On the topic.
I could make that into a proper skin mod if you want
cyan parrot
That'd be rather cool haha
halcyon lantern
You mean for Foxhole or CoH2? 🥴
cerulean anvil
Hey, Iercas.
olive cove
Hi
bright jay
where can I find these mods 👀
daring ferry
In the depths of the modding websites 🤫
cyan parrot
Or Discords
bright jay
I want to have cool tank decals toooo 😢
cyan parrot
Most are full reskins I think
halcyon lantern
GIMP ain't that bad.
drowsy garnet
@halcyon lantern holy crap that looks legit
daring ferry
Oh wow that is some good lighting
drowsy garnet
Wait did you paste it in?
halcyon lantern
So first I have to spend like a minute trying to get the angle of the LT right in GIMP (perspective and shit)
Then I check if the hue of the map and surrounding fits
Then I paste that shit in and remove things that might overlapp (UI and trees)
Then I make icons (the longest part actually.)
drowsy garnet
XDD
daring ferry
You even got the tank icon, great stuff
halcyon lantern
These blue ones are just there cause I forgot unselected units have blue icons and not white. GIMP sucks in this regard. Can't just assign a colour to the one below, have to create an entire folder of colour, saturation, value for it.
daring ferry
It might have been changed in a newer version
daring ferry
There is 2.10 and maybe more now
halcyon lantern
thing is I use GIMP mainly for the multiple paint brushes
CSP has ones for drawing, but not so much for texturing
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/203512636556574720/790591697645731890/unknown.png
I also did this fake screenshot
It's this shit
halcyon lantern
yighs, wouldn't fit on the hull even
near folio
Dude why does that AC top down look so nice
wind night
Because it's a really nice detailed model that you don't get to see very well from the angle you're at.
halcyon lantern
Have this instead
bright jay
Oh god
daring ferry
This looks oddly familiar
wind night
Something about that looks vaguely wrong but I'm not sure what it is
near folio
Damnit dyno
wind night
Like, from the normal angle the little ridges on the back of the AC doesn't really show at all.
near folio
It's the meshing of the hull to the turret
wind night
Oooh, yeah, you're right
near folio
The ring goes slightly around the hull
halcyon lantern
Yup, it's sliiightly oversized
wind night
And the angle / size the turret looks like it bulges out from the hull
halcyon lantern
Lemme see if I can find it
wind night
it's just kind of... odd
wind night
That might also be what's making it look weird
daring ferry
Got it! It feels very KV2-ish
wind night
The pieces of the tank look perfectly smooth
halcyon lantern
Suddenly looks much less fitting with all the maps
the barrel suddenly becomes black
Due to metallics
near folio
Yeah, it's mostly the color though honestly.
wind night
huh, the camo patterns are different
or they're much less defined on the bottom texture
halcyon lantern
if I disable the metallics on the turret suddenly it's pretty chill
And yeah but that's a lesser issue.
near folio
^ This.
halcyon lantern
Huh?
bright jay
AT turret on gunboat
halcyon lantern
I've yet to do anything with the gunboat tbh, so maybe
halcyon lantern
Hmm
halcyon lantern
It's pretty large.
daring ferry
You would have to move the whole front of the boat to get the AT gun to fit
halcyon lantern
...hell, true.
faint egret
you could just trim the base of it off
makeing the actual rotateing part fit a little better
bright jay
niiiiice
ashen drum
looks good on GB, not on lt
faint egret
kek
bright jay
warden when?
daring ferry
The texture doesn't even look stretched, good job on that one
halcyon lantern
Fits perfectly, actually, with its ring and stuff
near folio
Oh that's beautiful.
daring ferry
modular vehicles intensifies
daring ferry
warden when?
Well wardens already have a twin cannon gunboat iirc
bright jay
XD
daring ferry
What about a tank destroyer tho 👀
halcyon lantern
shut tundra
ship to ship combat when
tbh that one would require fast attack crafts to be added with torpedos
cerulean anvil
Help me balance while I finish the final drawing.
Also better description/name because I'm dumb.
bright jay
Waaaaaaa
tardy turret
@glad vine Thanks for the suggestion but I believe mine is better, because mine has more crates, means it was before pillaging
fickle cloak
3 crew members?
thin oak
Help me balance while I finish the final drawing.
Very interesting idea and it looks very well done but my question is just would their enough room for all the crew mates and also how far would each gun be able to turn to fire
halcyon lantern
not much tbh.
ashen drum
2 atrs seem a bit much tbh
halcyon lantern
would heavily rely on the driver to aim
cerulean anvil
3 crew members?
Driver and two gunners.
fickle cloak
Ah good
rigid plaza
ooh
cerulean anvil
Very interesting idea and it looks very well done but my question is just would ...
They would either have limited arcs or depend on the driver to aim AKA only forward.
cerulean anvil
2 atrs seem a bit much tbh
Well it's an LUV so it needs a good punch. Also to not copy the ATAC homework too much.
ashen drum
Yeah, but that’s too much punch imo, the AT rifle is pretty powerful on its own
And copying the ATAC is prolly your best and most reasonable bet anyway
carmine jolt
LUV with ATAC turret
halcyon lantern
you'd first need an LUV with a hard roof
cerulean anvil
Yeah, but that’s too much punch imo, the AT rifle is pretty powerful on its own
Well you have to consider that an LUV is really vulnerable. Also only being able to shoot forwards limits it's power.
So two ATRs seem reasonable to me.
ashen drum
Yes they are, but that vulnerability tends to be outpaced by mobility and cost
cerulean anvil
I wanted to make an Icarus equivalent for the Wardens without saying Spitifre but ATR and not too like the ATAC.
ashen drum
Oh it wouldn’t be an icarus equivalent at all
Icarus is a anti structure tool, ATR is bad against structures
cerulean anvil
I know that. Should've said "equivalent".
halcyon lantern
would be pretty rad for hit-and-run against tanks though, getting ATRs into good position is challenging.
cerulean anvil
As in it would be available in the same tier for the Wardens.
halcyon lantern
...but that would depend on its off-road speed
cerulean anvil
Icarus would be versatile while Venombite specialized.
ashen drum
If you want it 360 which I’d say would be more powerful, I’d keep it one atr
If you want a narrow front facing gun, I’d make a slightly reworked model like the tankettes HMG and give it about 1.5 rof
cerulean anvil
No 360° turning. Only forward. I want the double guns as the main signature of this vehicle.
ashen drum
I’d probably just go the route as a single upgraded ATR
thin oak
wait so what is the range of the ATR?
ashen drum
With 1.5 times ROF
And a mount kinda like one of the Italian vehicles
Actually think it was british
halcyon lantern
ooh, pretty
ashen drum
I’d give the mounting a little more flair, make it look beefier. But same general idea
cerulean anvil
More decals for tanks?
bright jay
Eeeee give mod
cyan parrot
I did something like that above my mod I'm making
Ooooo
New one or is it the old mod lercas?
bright jay
Where are people getting these mods arg
cedar pelican
bright jay
Huh
cyan parrot
If it's a new one when it's done I'd like to check it out!
cunning kettle
LUVs
cedar pelican
if ur wondering what i posted i take quotes from players and make them into art
sadly only quotes i got is from wardens
bright jay
Where warden mech?
cunning kettle
Where warden mech?
too lazy
too much effort
If I do that then I'm obligated to make the storm tank
near folio
You like Satchels? Also can't decide if this is good or if something is off.
cunning kettle
You like Satchels? Also can't decide if this is good or if something is off.
Looks too 2D
near folio
It's not supposed to be 3D, just wanted to draw a little satchel.
I can tackle 3D later down the line, I want to stick to the basics for now.
cunning kettle
It's not supposed to be 3D, just wanted to draw a little satchel.
I mean as in no depth, it looks flat
cerulean anvil
The texture on the middle seems off.
Red wires seem random and the metal circle is strange?
near folio
I'm basing this off of the 3d model in the files, it's got a circular buckle in the middle, and two wires below it.
I went in there for the finer details.
cunning kettle
New front design, what do you guys think
The old one, this one is so bad
Based the new one off of ww2 Japanese tanks
remote lynx
🤔
Ah, you bring back memories of talking to people about Original Characters. Something of a dumpsterfire that was.
cunning kettle
carmine jolt
"OC's"
takes a long drag from cigarette
"That's a term I haven't heard for a long time..."
carmine jolt
w
cunning kettle
Ah, you bring back memories of talking to people about Original Characters. Some...
Something something Sonic
remote lynx
lol
high ledge
Sonichu
carmine jolt
that is the OC
remote lynx
l
carmine jolt
the OCiest of all
carmine jolt
still waiting for kalmoire's :]]
high ledge
computer is running on petrol again
@halcyon lantern wait, how did you get the 3d models
remote lynx
ngl those ankle boots are dope
high ledge
I don’t think they’re going to be useful onboard ships
oh well
wait
is there a way to export the 3d models?
from foxhole?
remote lynx
"OC's"
*takes a long drag from cigarette*
"That's a term I haven't heard for a l...
tbf they range from really cool to downright train wreck
high ledge
recolours :
carmine jolt
the term itself just reeks of decades of internet trash fires
carmine jolt
i don't know the answer 😔
remote lynx
the term itself just reeks of decades of internet trash fires
Oh, no doubt. The term is tainted beyond belief. Just look no further than the OG Mary Sue. But the cool ones are usually DnD-esque characters that "live on" beyond the game itself, like with the art of lercas.
More so when they're recurring, as with Mummy, Morrighan, and those whose names I can't recall right now
cunning kettle
last meteor
runic linden
Apart from DeviantArt, anyone else know of a good place to showcase one's art online?
halcyon lantern
Twitter.
runic linden
Okay apart from Twitter too
halcyon lantern
Pixiv
runic linden
Pixiv?
halcyon lantern
japanese thing
runic linden
But I'm not Japanese
blissful heath
by that definition it covers the entirety of human artistic output
carmine jolt
human creativity
it's either porn, or not porn
halcyon lantern
it's like deviantart in terms of including degeneracy
runic linden
What about Artstation?
wind night
Pixiv is the Japanese equivalent of deviantart pretty much
Artstation is much more “get your art to people who can pay you to make more” than deviantart
Which is why a lot of concept artists use it
carmine jolt
pixiv is like deviantart but everyone else seems invariably more competent than you
wind night
... so deviantart?
wind night
Why not deviantart?
runic linden
I mean I guess I could just do Devian
wind night
Pixiv is VERY anime heavy
halcyon lantern
Not exclusively though. But yes, mainly.
runic linden
right so for a non-degenerate like me it aint quite the right place
wind night
You have to look pretty hard to find things that aren’t anime.
halcyon lantern
thankfully anime doesn't often make backgrounds nor objects stylistic, just the people.
wind night
@runic linden oh my sweet summer child
halcyon lantern
so it can have hyper-realistic food, hyper realistic vehicles, hyper realistics weapons
runic linden
Well it aint necessarily Fokker DXII porn
or at least one that I havent seen
tbh, I cant even remember what exactly i saw
and i guess its a good thing too
daring ferry
Better not remember that kind of stuff
Oh not on topic but
Look at this piece of art
runic linden
Imagine being the guy carving that out
or using whatever methods he does to make that
daring ferry
I have no idea how they do it
These are made by the dudes at Verney-Carron
They got some really good stuff in their collection guns
carmine jolt
"Engravings...give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"
daring ferry
Eh, these are hunting and collection guns
I mean they tried to get their AR as the standart French army weapon but didn't get enough revenu each year to fulfill the terms of the contract
runic burrow
With aircraft, you can never degenerafy
We have some people from project ceris in this server, so there is that
carmine jolt
project what
carmine jolt
oh...
carmine jolt
ahh newgrounds, the immortal
rocky tiger
high ledge
hentai
remote lynx
And in case you're wondering, yeah....I have seen degenerated airplanes
What about... degenerated tanks?
halcyon lantern
@high ledge So I did the challenge, but my character isn't as flexible.
carmine jolt
damn wtf nice
halcyon lantern
👁️ 👍
high ledge
And I do not like that
carmine jolt
impossible
high ledge
:(
carmine jolt
there is no such thing as a "tall asian"
we sacrificed our proficiency for our spine length
carmine jolt
you cannot hide from the tall asian
rocky tiger
is this challenge?
high ledge
Have great inertia
carmine jolt
"The hand is slightly faster than you"
come at me mf. i'll joke about asking how's the weather up there before you beat me to a pulp
high ledge
porn
carmine jolt
hentai, if you will
daring ferry
Adult cartoons, if you feel so
halcyon lantern
boner donor media, so to speak
remote lynx
I’m a tall asian
I'm a short dutchy ;-;
remote lynx
I stand out tho
Come to the netherlands, where 180 is below average
high ledge
hot
carmine jolt
Come to the netherlands, where 180 *is below average*
smollander lol
high ledge