#technical-chat

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rocky python
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Compatibility. And set it to windows 8.

sterile hornet
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@blissful sequoia it used to when I join and no I don’t see any errors at all

blissful sequoia
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i think if you get into windowed mode you can adjust resolution and go back to fullscreen from there

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@sterile hornet there is a reconnect voice button, you might try that. Make sure you've set the right voice device in the sound settings for Foxhole; adjust any volumes needed there. If that fails perhaps try the pinned message related to wiping/resetting vivox files, and it may be worth trying the software voicemeeter to redirect the audio through it - that has solved several peoples mic probs

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it seems like vivox or foxhole has trouble with some particular mics, but when rerouted through a virtual audio device can make it compatible...

muted mango
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Can`t connect to server

blissful sequoia
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@muted mango disable firewall and antivirus until you identify which is blocking it

regal scaffold
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May also just have to forward the ports

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i) Add Foxhole to your exclusions list ​ii) Unblock Foxhole from your firewall iii) Unblock port 443 from your Firewall iv) Verify Integrity of Game Files

v) AT YOUR OWN RISK
If the above steps don’t work, you can try disabling your firewall temporarily, reinstall Foxhole, then re-enable your antivirus.

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hope this helps a little bit

brave sand
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yo ive had the game for ages and decided today to pick it back up and when i joined in, it was lagging horrifically. i dont remember this happenening before, and my computer can certainly hanndle the game. i have turned my settings down and tried everything else i know to do and thought i would try here for help

blissful sequoia
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have you reinstalled it cleanly? check the pinned messages

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theres a couple folders worth deleting for a proper reinstall

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but is your lag graphical or network related? because everybody feels network lag now, the servers are overloaded

regal scaffold
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^^ Truth to servers overloading with the recent "influx" of players

brave sand
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its graphical

blissful sequoia
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ok so try the reinstall then with the clean directories

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there might be old settings or assets causing you problems

regal scaffold
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also make sure graphic drivers are up to date

terse flume
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hi guys, when i start the game all the players and bulidings are setting on a pitchblack surface, I don't knomw whether it's the model or texture for the ground that isn't showing up. is this a known issue?

blissful sequoia
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i have never heard of it before; did you just install the game, @terse flume?

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that sounds like corrupt asset files (reinstall) or bad video drivers (update drivers) to me

terse flume
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i did just install, will try updating

blissful sequoia
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yea try the drivers

main sleet
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Does anyone have any idea why I get major lag spikes ONLY when moving the camera in game?

blissful sequoia
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make sure you havent mapped that same mouse button to another function

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you can test with the , and . key to turn camera without the mouse

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if it does not lag when you use . and , then it means you have a key mapping problem on middle click

rose shell
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where can i report a guy? boucuse he destroy my tank and then he quit so i cant report him

inner basin
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@rose shell Kind of late, but you can see people who have recently logged off in the F1 screen, all the way down at the bottom of the player list. You can still report them using votekicks, but I recommend DM'ing @coarse trail with your report, if you got the guy's name

sand sphinx
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dfwe

undone basin
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hey guys i have problem when i play foxhole i can't connect to voice chat and i said voice chat error every time i try to reconnect anybody know how can i fix this?

blissful sequoia
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@undone basin check the pinned messages, there are several issues/fixes related to vivox

raw talon
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Open the menu go to voice and click boath re coneckt voice options

blissful sequoia
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most likely issue is the DNS server

undone basin
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i already try all of it but it didn't work

terse flume
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Did u try the DNS

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@undone basin

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oops

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Try deleting the vivox files after exiting steam

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Then restart stem do verify of files

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If the issue persists try restarting game a ton of times

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I had this problem for a whole month

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Then got resolved automatically

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But the DNS thing helps

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And which type of connection u have

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Like u use wifi or a broadband

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Or mobile

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Tethering

undone basin
zenith cypress
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ji

ionic sundial
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Voice chat Error [2] 2-5008 followed by Error [8] 6-0

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Is this a DNS issue?

blissful sequoia
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we don't know for sure - evidently it isn't documented for us, but we think it's network related, so DNS or simply cant connect to that IP

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which could be caused by a bad route/ISP, or a misconfigured router

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changing DNS is a very easy test, but I don't think we have a clear story where somebody had the [8] 6-0 error and figured out a solution - I am looking back through logs

sly mortar
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2, 2-5008. 6, 6-0...

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Let me see

blissful sequoia
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icanari what time zone are you in?

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god im happy to see you here lol

sly mortar
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PST

blissful sequoia
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oh me too

sly mortar
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First is a Login error

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Second is a...Connection "error"?

blissful sequoia
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super vague. I assume they chain together, like an exception call stack

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so 8 is like the login method, which calls a tcp connect method and that throws the 6

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i would pay $20 to see those specific lines of code

sly mortar
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Wait

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It's 8 not 6

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One second

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That's a push to talk error

blissful sequoia
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you and i have had this conversation before, and im having the same reaction i did then; wtf does THAT mean

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brainstorming: push-to-talk key not mapped; microphone problems (voicemeeter solution); not actually p-t-t error but mislabeled documentation?

sly mortar
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Let me go check some stuff...

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2-5008...

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FUCK

blissful sequoia
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thats interesting, ive never seen anyone say there was another error message with the 8 6 0 one

sly mortar
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That's relatively common

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Fucking hell

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My documentation only covers the first number

blissful sequoia
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is this the doc from the devs given to them by vivox?

sly mortar
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Dunno

blissful sequoia
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whered you get it

sly mortar
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Can't remember where I got my documentation

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Let me find it

blissful sequoia
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oh boy a deus machina solution i dont like it

sly mortar
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It's somewhere in this discord

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Okay

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Found it

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It's from Mark

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but I can't post it, sorry...

blissful sequoia
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sigh

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i doubt i would see anything you wouldnt

sly mortar
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not my choice

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It's less than... 200 words

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And about 15 of them are important

blissful sequoia
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can you tell me, is it a 2 part error? or is it just 1 error code that looks weird?

sly mortar
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Here's what I can say I think

Structured like this [A] B-C

blissful sequoia
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can we infer [A] X Y is an error code in the [A] set?

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or is there no such set?

sly mortar
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Yes

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Kind

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Of

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Not really

blissful sequoia
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are they subcategories?

sly mortar
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Effectively

blissful sequoia
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so do we know the general category of a [2] error?

sly mortar
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'A' is the context in which the error occured

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So a 2 error would be any error happening during a Login

blissful sequoia
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oh I thought 8 was a login error?

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what is [8]?

sly mortar
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Push to Talk

blissful sequoia
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oh jeez so 6 is a subcategory of the push to talk problems

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so we only know 2 is login related, theres nothing listed for a 5008?

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what errors are listed under [2] for example. Maybe its noted as octal or hex or something silly

sly mortar
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Uh

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My only possible answer

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Yes

blissful sequoia
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or bit flags ORd together

sly mortar
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because there is no list

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I literally have a list of A numbers, and that's it

blissful sequoia
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so all we have is [2] is login error

sly mortar
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Yes

blissful sequoia
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so it lists possible errors but does not explain them?

sly mortar
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No

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It only lists context

blissful sequoia
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ok

sly mortar
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What's the error we're having the most often?

blissful sequoia
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[8] 6-0

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thats the one that goes back weeks we have no answer for

sly mortar
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Alright

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Second most common

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My guess is [2] 2-5008

blissful sequoia
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this guy fury got [2] 2-5002 and also [2] 2-5045 with his [8] 6-0 3 months ago

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i think the [8] 6-0 error is the result of the other error maybe?

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obviously you cant push to talk if you cant login

sly mortar
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Yeah

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[8] 6-0
[2] 2-5008
[2] 2-5002
[2] 2-5045
[2] 6-0 3

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That look pretty comprehensive?

blissful sequoia
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yea

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oh i see a 5031 in there too

sly mortar
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WAIT

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Our list has long numbers

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Oh my god yes

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We are saved

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@blissful sequoia DMing

blissful sequoia
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they dont appear to be bitwise flags

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I'm debating, because im relatively lazy on a Sunday night - theres an approach where you open up the black box with netstat and dns tools

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and theres the approach where you shake the box and listen for whats inside haha

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a tcp protocol with a common xml format, i just ... the only possibility I can see is that the network is unreachable for these individuals

blissful sequoia
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Ok, can't get too distracted on it tonight, maybe tomorrow night I'll shake this box

sly mortar
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@blissful sequoia Here's my normal technique: Get a big stick, hit object with big stick

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If it doesn't function

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Hit it more

blissful sequoia
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i might get 2 big sticks

fast kelp
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wrong
You headbutt it
Fixed my PC like 5 different times that way

blissful sequoia
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did you fix your head at the same time?

tardy ingot
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hello, does anyone have this problem where the screen is frozen and only unfreezes whne being alt-tabbed?

tardy ingot
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tried reinstalling, validating, checking drivers

blissful sequoia
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I have not heard of this problem

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do you have like geforce experience installed?

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this seems like ... a driver setting to me

dim salmon
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@tardy ingot This is pretty rare problem here. Can you describe more?

blissful sequoia
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ok ok, heres a good test, can you play it in windowed mode instead of fullscreen?

dim salmon
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Probably these are drivers

tardy ingot
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i'm triple checking my drivers, essentially game is frozen unless i'm alt tabbed

dim salmon
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Hm

tardy ingot
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i can't change res since it's frozen

blissful sequoia
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try in windowed

dim salmon
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what if we call markfoot here

blissful sequoia
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uhh maybe we can change it in the settings file directly

tardy ingot
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i'll check if i can do that from an ini

blissful sequoia
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copypasta from icanari's pinned message:

If this is happening to you, there is currently one known solution, if that doesn't work, ask for more help.

  1. Go to C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor
  2. Open GameUserSettings.ini
  3. Set PreferredFullscreenMode=0 from whatever it is currently at
  4. Save the file
  5. Restart the game
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that is where you can find the settings file, see if you can get it into windowed mode- this problem might be related to fullscreen possibly

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or resolution...

tardy ingot
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thank you, i'll try playing with the settings and will come back

haughty forge
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Guys, quick question, I can't hear player's voices at all, (checked to make sure it was on)

sly mortar
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@haughty forge Is any error message showing up in the chat?

haughty forge
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Not that I can see, lemme check again to be sure

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no

sly mortar
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Hmmm

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Make sure all your audio devices are plugged in correctly

haughty forge
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they are

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I hear everything but the voices

sly mortar
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Alright

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Go to the voice settings page, and make sure that all of the devices there are correct

haughty forge
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they are

haughty forge
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will do, thanks

tardy ingot
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Alright guys, seems like someone in my family got a virus in since i can't access my user folder lol

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I'll reinstall windows

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Thank you for your time

blissful sequoia
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@tardy ingot copy and paste in "%appdata%\..\Local\Foxhole" into explorer, see if it goes there

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im skeptical you got a virus

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oops i typed it wrong

tardy ingot
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Thats what I did my good friend

blissful sequoia
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your computer would barely work or maybe not at all if you couldnt access that directory

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all programs would be throwing a fit

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maybe not all, some. maybe half

tardy ingot
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Planescape torment and a plethora of other games have been throwing fits since today morning

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Ds1 makes my computer crash

blissful sequoia
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oh interesting

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if you get windows reinstalled let us know if your foxhole problem goes away then

tardy ingot
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For sure

blissful sequoia
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youre the first case i've heard like that so it might be useful in the future

sly mortar
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look at the top rated HDDs

blissful sequoia
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you mean in here, most recetnyl? ive complained about them a lot

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what should i look at?

sly mortar
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The link I posted

blissful sequoia
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what specifically on there?

sly mortar
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User ratings mainly I'd say.

blissful sequoia
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hmm

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yea with all due respect, users are dumb

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and i dont doubt seagate performance

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i doubt their quality under 8TB drives

sly mortar
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nobody fucking uses those for consumers

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so it doesn't fucking matter

blissful sequoia
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uses what?

sly mortar
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I don't know many general consumers who use 8tb HDDs

blissful sequoia
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you will soon

sly mortar
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I dunno.

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People just don't need that much storage really.

blissful sequoia
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lol

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today they dont, tomorrow they will

sly mortar
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Nah. Not for an average user.

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High end users? Yes, but average users? no.

blissful sequoia
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yea the whole envelope increases size

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all the programs they use take more space, the games have higher texture detail and more videos, more geometry

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data size fills the drive capacity like a goldfish grows to fit its aquarium

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my problem with seagate is reliability, never performance or price

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also icanari how does one of these seagate drives get 105% user rating...?

sly mortar
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I...

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I just noticed this

blissful sequoia
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do you do backups, icanari?

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or are you like all cloud?

sly mortar
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I have an external

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4TB

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Each backup is about 30gb...

blissful sequoia
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like incrementals? do you not run out of space on 4tb?

sly mortar
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No, not even close

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Incremental backups, every 24 hours

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Not even close to running out, because it only keeps 10 back ups at one time

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And it keeps 3 on the cloud

blissful sequoia
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man i just fill that up so quick

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have you ever downloaded a real 4k movie? its like 70gb

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watchmen in 4k... so good

sly mortar
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I just put them into compressed file types...

blissful sequoia
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that is compressed lol

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office off-site backup hit 6tb last month

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i think youre right tho, i live on 512gb on my desktop and its fine if youre a regular person who lives off the cloud

sly mortar
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You don't even need to live off the cloud

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If I didn't have all of the games on my PC, I'd be hovering at around 300gb

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And I don't use much cloud storage

blissful sequoia
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yea games are huge now

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also people spend like 1000 dollars on a video card and they cant shell out for some storage? crazy

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i just ordered a new workstation at work and got one of those samsung evo 970s im excited

tardy ingot
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One day microsoft word will take up 120 gigs

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It's the bloat era

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8TB is not that much considering i use already 1tb just for work

blissful sequoia
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he has a solid point about home use but when i think of a business context, the cost of somebody deleting files and freeing up space is much higher than just buying new storage

lapis dawn
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How do I fix my voice issues in game?
I already deleted the vivox files and verified everything in steam

tardy ingot
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Is your AV blocking audio?

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That was my problem with Kaspersky

lapis dawn
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@tardy ingot What do you mean by that?

tardy ingot
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Hmm if you don't have Kaspersky i dont wish to advise as I won't know how to handle

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Better ask <@&521124241395941396>

terse flume
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@lapis dawn

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Did u try DNS method

lapis dawn
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Yeah I'm not sure how to disable a SIP ALG

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ALP*

terse flume
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No

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U just change the dns

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It will work

lapis dawn
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How do I do that?

terse flume
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Are u getting a voice error 8 6

lapis dawn
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No?

terse flume
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So what's the issue

plucky bluff
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Its there

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No need for ping

terse flume
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Can u please elaborate

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@lapis dawn

lapis dawn
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It would seem other people can hear me

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However, I cannot hear other people talking

terse flume
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Are ur speakers working

lapis dawn
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I can hear all the sounds effects in game

terse flume
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Ok

lapis dawn
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explosions, vehicles, gun fire ect

terse flume
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It's a weird issue

lapis dawn
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I can try uninstalling

terse flume
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Hey try one thing

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Quit steam

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Clear game chache

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Restart the operating system

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And open foxhole again

lapis dawn
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Where would my said game cache be

terse flume
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Follow these steps

terse flume
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Did it work??

lapis dawn
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I dont think so

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I'm seeing a lot of the symbols but no voices

terse flume
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Can u share the screenshot

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Of ur chat

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Box

lapis dawn
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Like

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the box above the chat window?

terse flume
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Hey join an operation

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See if u can chat on it

blissful sequoia
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sounds like you dont have the right sound device selected for voice in the foxhole settings

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like its pumping sound out of the wrong speakers or headset

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also, unrelated, you have johnny utah on your team?! you know hes an FBI agent, right?!

terse flume
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@lapis dawn

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Open sound settings

lapis dawn
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ok

terse flume
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Of windows

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And select the top device as communication device

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Right and set as default communication device

lapis dawn
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So my tv?

blissful sequoia
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where you want the voice to come out

terse flume
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Can u send a screen shot

lapis dawn
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I'm going to try to use other ports

terse flume
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Are u using headphones

lapis dawn
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A headset

terse flume
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OK select it as a communication device then

lapis dawn
blissful sequoia
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err whaa digital output? are you really using digital?

lapis dawn
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Maybe, was messing around with the sound settings

blissful sequoia
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i think there is another device scrolled down - and alt + print screen takes a screen shot of just the active window

lapis dawn
terse flume
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And dude get some sleep😄

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It's 3 am

lapis dawn
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x.x

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Yes I know

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But this is bothering me

blissful sequoia
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wow thats a lot of options, ok so you probably know which one is the regular sound output, set as default

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can do for default communications device and also default sound device

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like you can select the same device as the default for both things

lapis dawn
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Yeah I did

blissful sequoia
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and i think chigga wanted you to open up the Recording tab and set the correct default there too

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oh no he probably wanted the playback

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the mic is fine, right?

lapis dawn
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Yes

blissful sequoia
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and the thing i wanted you to set was in foxhole, in the settings there is 2 drop-down select boxes for the voice output and voice input devices

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they default from the windows settings I think

lapis dawn
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Right

blissful sequoia
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are those already set correctly?

terse flume
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So u tried defaulting the device

lapis dawn
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So I dont get playback

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When I test the device in the settings

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But now I have a different one

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Damn this is confusing

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FIXED IT

terse flume
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It's working I guess

lapis dawn
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So my headset is the realtek digital output

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But my headset uses the speakers just above

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For playback

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🤦

terse flume
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Make speaker as default communication device

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Too

blissful sequoia
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yea the headset is just like a stereo pass-through im guessing

terse flume
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We don't know the headset are in sound card or directly in motherboard

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He has a dedicated gaming sound card

blissful sequoia
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its using the onboard realtek

terse flume
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Sound blaster z

blissful sequoia
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uhh nothing is using it though

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so the headset is plugged into wrong sound card, right?

terse flume
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It's too confusing

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He was able to hear stuff before

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So I think they are plugged onboard

blissful sequoia
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i would just disable the onboard one, myself, and yes i agree i think he has the headset plugged into the onboard one

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but i am confused about the digital output part, isnt that like spdif?

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oh it's just HDA ok

terse flume
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@lapis dawn

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Any progress

lapis dawn
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So yes I can hear other players now

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But I think they cannot hear me now

terse flume
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Cool

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😱

lapis dawn
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😱 indeed

blissful sequoia
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set the default communication device to be the same device in both tabs

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copy the one that works lol

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i guess you have to change the recording tab one

terse flume
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That's why I use a laptop too simple

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😄

blissful sequoia
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you can also hide/disable the devices to avoid confusion, tape over the holes in the back...

lapis dawn
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Yeah not sure whats going on

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Anyone able to go into a voice channel?

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I think its workjing now

terse flume
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Nice

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Have a nice war😄

mental idol
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<@&521124241395941396> Hello. Whenever I try to join the war, an error pops ups saying "Lost connection to the server, please try again" - I've already disabled Hyper V, and I've updated my graphics card to the latest release. It still dosen't work and now it's become kinda frustrating, I could use some help.

terse flume
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I usually get that when im downloading something in the background, cause my internet isnt the best

mental idol
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Thought of that too, but I've made sure I'm not downloading anything

terse flume
mental idol
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I can't see how any of those would help me with my current problem

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I've already tried that

terse flume
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There u go😄

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Ok

mental idol
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I appreciate it, but I still seem to have the same issue

terse flume
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Is this issue recent

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Like happening right now

mental idol
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Yes, it's happening right atm

terse flume
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Or its been like this for a day

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Or two

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Try restarting steam

mental idol
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I just got the game like 45 minutes ago

terse flume
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Again and again

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Oh

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Or try changing DNS

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It's a network issue

mental idol
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I'll give it a shot

terse flume
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This issue happened mid game ?

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U were playing and suddenly a network lag

mental idol
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Nope, It happened straight out of the bag

terse flume
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Ok

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Try the dns

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If it doesn't work try using another Internet

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Like a different wifi or use ur phone tethering

mental idol
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Okay, I'll try that since my DNS was already set to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

shrewd sedge
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my windowed fullscreen isn't working properly, the taskbar at the bottom is blocking the bottom part of the screen

chrome tinsel
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i keep getting device removed or device hung errors when i try to play. this is new was able to play almost 40 hours before this started happening

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im running a gtx 960

drifting hatch
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I have a question about discord bots. Specifically how to add the glitch.me interactive map bot

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I did a specific search on Google but I couldn't find anything

blissful sequoia
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@chrome tinsel does it say which device? maybe its audio related? have you checked temperature on your video card, also?

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does it hang in the middle of the game or at the start?

sly mortar
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@drifting hatch Direct message @cosmic mortar

cosmic mortar
drifting hatch
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Is the discord link in community resources

tepid ingot
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wait wait

chrome tinsel
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@blissful sequoia both temp is at 36c and its video

blissful sequoia
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ok so probably not overheating. when does it crash?

chrome tinsel
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randomly at all times

blissful sequoia
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It could be drivers I guess, they might have updated, that could explain why it worked for 40 hours

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I would try updating to the newest video drivers, nvidia, intel or amd; and if that didn't work I would try the full foxhole re-install that is listed in the pinned messages for this room

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uninstalling from steam doesnt always do a proper reinstall, it also needs a couple directories cleaned/deleted too

blissful sequoia
#

@lavish mango what are symptoms?

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do you hear others? game sounds are OK? any vivox error messages?

ebon coral
#

Alright finnaly

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I cant hear anyone

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And need some help.

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@blissful sequoia

blissful sequoia
#

yo

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any vivox errors?

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@ebon coral

coral raven
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anyone got tips on increasing FPS?

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and how do I lock FPS btw

blissful sequoia
#

someone did this before, you should search the channel

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i think the default fps was 62

#

i think its actually in the pinned messages how to do it...

#

this is for very fast computers

#

if your computer is just slow, weak graphics card, you can lower the graphics settings in the game and you can also lower the resolution in there with the slider

#

vsync will also lock your frame rate

coral raven
#

wait, so it should be on?

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(vsync)

sly mortar
#

Should be off normally

coral raven
#

oh

blissful sequoia
#

depends if you can handle the effect of screen tearing or not

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most people make the tradeoff for the feeling of input responsiveness i think

amber folio
#

SO just wondering if anyone else experiences a lot of rubberbanding? Did testing on my side, usually if I experience it it's a result of just being on wifi, ( high jitter, ) but my network has been fine and I get consistent ping/jitter. I only experience it in Foxhole. Constantly just warping forward as I move. God forbid if I'm driving when it happens. Playing from Canada, and if I understand it, the server is in the states right?

blissful sequoia
#

yes

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if its a laptop, maybe turn off power saving modes on wifi, or consider changing channels - maybe it is noisy and it's lowering bandwidth or losing packets

amber folio
#

All of the above checked and done. Only thing that I did have to d owas the uhhhhhh SIP

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and no change. And it's exclusively a problem with foxhole.

blissful sequoia
#

i suppose it could just be the servers... youre probably not the only one to experience rubberbanding

lapis steppe
#

@amber folio I'm writing you from Europe, I also had some problems, it might be the servers being heavily populated? During Spade assault, for example, I had these kind of problems. After a while, though, the servers stabilised, and everything went just fine. Sometimes it happens and no, it is not your internet the problem, if you test it and you see it's working smoothly. 😃

amber folio
#

Ah okay, I was worried I was becoming paranoid.

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Becuase it's really bad at times. Unplayable so. I've had to quit in the midst of battles. ]: Feels bad.

limber tinsel
#

i'm having this dotted border around the chatbox when i wanna type. And i have to press enter and a letter at the same time just to get one out.

blissful sequoia
#

is there another key being pressed maybe?

limber tinsel
#

No to both

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might be my own pc's problem. up key is stuck but not physically

blissful sequoia
#

huh?

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it is stuck?

limber tinsel
#

even after i unplugged my keyboard the problem persists. i just is the os problem

inner basin
#

Or like, go on a website that will tell you what keys are being pressed

#

oh

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@limber tinsel yeah a screenshot would be helpful

limber tinsel
#

got it

#

shutting down and starting up

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Sorry guys it's a PC issue

#

i have 140 hours in this game and it was perfectly fine so i kinda panicked a little

dry orbit
#

So em

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my cursor keeps like flickering

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in the menu and game

blissful sequoia
#

lol

#

just like zekamashi?

dry orbit
#

?

blissful sequoia
#

have you restarted PC?

dry orbit
#

Yeah

blissful sequoia
#

its mouse cursor flickering? what does flickering mean?

dry orbit
#

Like appearing/dissapearing very fast in game

#

Changing to Windowed Fullscreen fixes it, it only happens on Fullscreen

blissful sequoia
#

my only guess is something like an overlay program, like discord or something shrug

#

is there a reason windowed fullscreen will not work for you?

dry orbit
#

Nope

blissful sequoia
#

it is the better option if you arent on a 2160p monitor

#

do any other fullscreen programs cause this for you? other games?

dry orbit
#

Nope

summer glen
#

I'm havin the no home regions found problem. I've done all the potention fixes listed on the support page for them as well and no dice

#

Any ideas?

sly mortar
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Try restarting steam @summer glen

summer glen
#

Done that, reinstalled 3 times, done all the port forwarding

summer glen
#

Yeah, I went through that list.

sly mortar
#

Alright.

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Are you in a region which would block you from playing?

#

I.E. Russia or China?

#

Etc

high olive
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blow air on all USB ports and do a barrel roll

#

it will help

summer glen
#

Nyet

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Canada

blissful sequoia
#

its the firewall...

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or antivirus

#

gotta turn it all the way off

#

i suspect most of those are from someone clicking no to the windows firewall or unchecking one of the networks in functions in

summer glen
#

Tried with the anti-virus off and I already had and dobule checked that I've got exceptions for Foxhole

blissful sequoia
#

probably worth disabling the firewall for a test

#

or disabling outgoing firewall

#

also, @summer glen did you do the DNS fix to google 8.8.8.8 or anything besides the one your ISP gave you?

#

seems very unlikely but ... i dunno

summer glen
#

Don't think I've done that actually, I'll give it a shot.

#

Also, curious if you have an idea why it won't run in administrator mode?

blissful sequoia
#

steam?

summer glen
#

Yeah

blissful sequoia
#

nope, although im not sure its a great idea

summer glen
#

Pops up a box saying its running with external parameters

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Even with it off, won't run from the actual .exe at all

blissful sequoia
#

well steam passes foxhole external parameters

summer glen
#

Says the same thing

blissful sequoia
#

you cant just run the foxhole game without having steam open it

summer glen
#

Hmm

blissful sequoia
#

it wont be able to connect if you do that, i think, because it uses a steam ID

#

i think the closest you can do is run steam as admin, and launch foxhole

#

but if its a firewall or antivirus problem it wont solve it

#

in steam, @terse flume?

summer glen
#

Yeah, still nothing with firewall and anti-virus off

#

I'll try the DNS fix

blissful sequoia
#

ok

#

the dropdown at the top left says Live, right? not devbranch or something?

summer glen
#

Yeah, it's set to live

#

Though none of them work, tried dev and test as well

blissful sequoia
#

oh thats not in anymore

#

hmmm

#

i know, it seems like wrong game version, right?

sly mortar
#

Steam has to be running.

blissful sequoia
#

so either cant connect to remove network, or maybe wrong game version, or steam connection probs

sly mortar
#

It also has to be logged in, and cannot be in Offline mode.

blissful sequoia
#

imagine if the devs had a test network connection button...

#

no i guess what we need is better error messages

summer glen
#

Currently running Alpha 0.23.18.3 25045

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Wasn't test sorry, meant internal

#

Yes, steam is online and running

blissful sequoia
#

yep, right version ...

summer glen
#

It's weird as I played last month but this just started this week

blissful sequoia
#

youre able to launch other multiplayer games from steam no prob?

#

oooh! youve had this installed before??

summer glen
#

Yeah, it's just Foxhole

blissful sequoia
#

when you reinstalled did you delete the directories??

summer glen
#

The folder in Appdata?

blissful sequoia
#

yea and in the steam directory too

summer glen
#

Not the steam directory one I don't think

blissful sequoia
#

hmm i (maybe we) are suspicious of old versions of the game that arent upgraded right

summer glen
#

That just the foxhole folder itself that's left over after uninstall?

blissful sequoia
#

like if you had it installed a month ago...

summer glen
#

I've reinstalled the game three times today

blissful sequoia
#

so yea there is a pinned message that describes the reinstall and the 2 directories to delete

summer glen
#

Gotcha, I'll double check those

blissful sequoia
#

its your call, but ... yea ive had to delete both directories before

summer glen
#

Only takes like 6min to DL so it's not a problem

blissful sequoia
#

and then final thought it you cant talk to that server on the internet for some reason...

#

route problem, firewall on the household router, ISP restriction, something odd

summer glen
#

Windows was re-installed on a new SSD with extra HDD two months ago

#

If I have to re-format already, it'll be time for a short rope

#

Deleted both folders, re-installing for fourth attempt :3

#

heh

blissful sequoia
#

we have no faith in verify files

summer glen
#

It's found nothing wrong so far

#

The few times I've done it

#

This is quite vexing

#

I just don't understand why it won't work

blissful sequoia
#

we think maybe verify files ignores existing files that shouldnt exist

summer glen
#

::internal screeching::

#

Oh?

#

That would cause some issues

#

I've tried on both hard drives so far

#

Same thing

blissful sequoia
#

interesting...

summer glen
#

I've been at this for four hours lol

blissful sequoia
#

is it a wired connection?

summer glen
#

Wi-fi, can't run an ethernet cable.

blissful sequoia
#

hmmm

summer glen
#

Would probably require a wall to cease existing

#

Hmm

#

Didn't think of that

blissful sequoia
#

is it a laptop? easy to move? i wonder if possible to test by moving it to router, yea mobile tethering good test too

summer glen
#

full tower pc

blissful sequoia
#

maybe these questions are hard to answer, but it would help to know if 1) does it work on another connection? 2) do other computers work with foxhole on your same wifi?

summer glen
#

I'll try mobile here when it's done. Mobile tether with phone still on wi-fi or data you think?

blissful sequoia
#

if the problem is not on your computer, then its the router or the ISP

summer glen
#

k

#

Ur duh

#

can't use tether on wi-fi. Derp

#

So of course network

#

Brain must be dying

#

Oh yeah, it's not an issue.

#

Just derping

#

Ok

#

On mobile

#

Test 1,45,175,189

#

Son of a, yeah. Just tells me I'm missing something somewhere. Probably in the router.

blissful sequoia
#

or the DNS

summer glen
#

Or that

#

Still gotta try the dns fix

blissful sequoia
#

if you switch back, try again

#

the DNS will be cached already

summer glen
#

Ok

blissful sequoia
#

if it works, then its definitely a DNS problem

#

if it doesnt work, maybe dns problem, maybe network

#

yea good test, @terse flume

#

so ... the tethered connection, is that using wifi?

#

i know but how does it talk to PC? usb cable or wifi?

summer glen
#

Tether won't work connected to wi-fi

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Or the mobile hotspot won't

blissful sequoia
#

so, what im thinking is that when you create a new network in windows, it asks you what type - public private, work, etc

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creating a new connection on USB (not sure about wifi) would ask you that question again

#

so the new connection might be public or private, something different than the connection that isnt working

#

so thats one of the reasons it works - there was somebody who had a firewall rule that applied to private networks, they marked their lan as public so it was firewalled; new connection was marked private and worked

#

i know thats not the case here, because the firewall was already tested, but just offering one possible difference

#

and then the route to the internet is different, through the router of course

#

dns servers are different too... cant think of much else

#

yes wireless routers are so awful

#

particularly the wireless part of them heh

#

and that wasnt totally wrecking your other internet use?

summer glen
#

Yeah, wish ethernet was an option

#

Would save me so much trouble quite a bit of the time

blissful sequoia
#

if money isnt the problem - you can route a network through the power sockets in a house

#

or just a good wireless router is pretty stable

#

but maybe you have one, maybe its not a wireless problem

summer glen
#

Yeah, probably going to have to

blissful sequoia
#

eek factory??

summer glen
#

Kill it with fire

blissful sequoia
#

gonna piss everybody off when their wifi passwords dont work and everything is screwed lol

summer glen
#

OH HO HO

#

I'll be dead, so I won't have to worry about Foxhole not connecting, eh?

#

Lol

#

Either way, time to make food. Thanks for the help/tips

#

I appreciate it

hot spindle
#

So would my PC be able to run it from30-60 frames?

pastel walrus
#

No dedicated gpu?

hot spindle
#

In all honesty I have no clue what that means

hybrid mica
#

Graphics processing unit

pastel walrus
#

Does your laptop has a 'video card'? In other words

hybrid mica
#

The way integrated graphics work is some of the cpu is dedicated to acting as a stand in of sorts for a graphics card

hot spindle
#

Ah ok

#

I don't really know and my PC isn

#

*isn

#

...

#

Isn't a laptop

#

It's one of those all in one things

hybrid mica
#

Give me the most intense game it can run well

sly mortar
#

Yeah, you'd probably be able to play it on the lowest graphics.

hot spindle
#

League

#

I ran league well

pastel walrus
#

How well

sly mortar
#

Maybe getting up to medium graphics

pastel walrus
#

Rrsolutions settings fps?

hot spindle
#

Pretty high

#

But things like modded MC

#

nope

pastel walrus
#

Right click on your desktop

hot spindle
#

I was running League at like 120fps while other things like mount and blade I get 12

pastel walrus
#

You see nvidia or amd grpahics options

#

?

hot spindle
#

Yeah it said AMD graphics center

pastel walrus
#

Open it and looknfor hardware

#

Also you can try the game yourself, if you cant run it well refund it on steam within 2 hours.

hot spindle
#

Hm don't know what it would be under

#

Well I found something where I can dedicate CPU power to graphics

#

It was at 40%

#

I upped it to 60

#

The only other thing I run during games is discord or spotify

pastel walrus
#

Or you can just take side of your pc off and check inside if you have a gpu :D

blissful sequoia
#

or how the HDMI cable is plugged in the back

#

onboard is parallel with tower, video card is perpendicular

pastel walrus
#

Or take a picture of the back of your pc and show it to us haha

blissful sequoia
#

in my experience league runs slower on my laptop than foxhole

hot spindle
blissful sequoia
#

foxhole has a wide range of video settings and resolution...

hot spindle
#

I don't need super high

#

medium at like 40-60 fps is perfectly fine for me

#

even 30-40

blissful sequoia
#

i think it would work fine, but also steam has a 2- hour playtime refund, right?

hot spindle
#

Indeed

pastel walrus
#

Yes

hot spindle
#

I am going to be getting a new laptop for graduation though in the next 2 months

blissful sequoia
#

game will allow you to lower resolution until its 1 blurry pixel to render faster, though

hot spindle
#

Once I get that I don't think I will need to worry as much

pastel walrus
#

Laptops for gaming are not worth it imo

#

Unless you travel constantly

hot spindle
#

True but I need one for college anyways

pastel walrus
#

Engineering?

hot spindle
#

I can't really have a desktop while at college

#

Yeah I will majoring in mechanical engineering

pastel walrus
#

Cool. Still would recommend a desktop since you will use a monitor anyway at a desk in your room

hot spindle
#

True but I am on a budget

pastel walrus
#

Doing cad/cam on. 15" laptop screen is impoaiible

#

Fat fingers

dim salmon
#

If you wanna more FPS - use game in windowed mode

#

Shift+F11

pastel walrus
#

A desktop with a good gpu + cheap laptop for classes is cheaper than a "gaming" laptop withna shitty GPu

hot spindle
#

True

#

windowed mode, so not fullscreen?

dim salmon
#

obviously Fullscreen makes GPU work harder

hot spindle
#

true

pastel walrus
#

I bought one of those dedicated gpu laptops for university deeply regreted it. Now i have a simple laptop + decent pc

#

And it costs less for much more performance

#

Many people have dektop pc in dorms i dont think its a problem

hot spindle
#

What would you recommend?

#

For Desktop, monitor, etc

pastel walrus
#

An 500$ desktop will outperform a 1000$ usually

hot spindle
#

WHat proccesorc cpu and graphics card?

pastel walrus
#

Get a 24" monitor at least. You will love it for CAD

#

I have a Ryzen R3 1200 + GTX 1060 3gb combo it works really well for me in 1080p. All games on high at 60FPS. Im very happy with it. Cost me around 550 $ but if you live in USA its even cheaper

hot spindle
#

I have a 23 inch monitor rn

pastel walrus
#

Thats good than

hot spindle
#

So how much was it total?

#

No the PC is an all in one sadly

#

so it's a monitor and PC

#

So for all of it, it was $550?

#

My problem is I don't know what hardware works well

pastel walrus
#

Where do you live btw? USA or EU?

#

Or

hot spindle
#

so I don't want to settle for something bad or pay for something that won't work but I also don't want to pay an arm and a leg

pastel walrus
#

?

hot spindle
#

USA

pastel walrus
#

Well than ita gonna be like 25% cheaper for you

hot spindle
#

For everything?

pastel walrus
#

I know I was in the same boat

hot spindle
#

Is that just for the desktop piece and not the monitor?

pastel walrus
#

For the PC. I had a monitor which was about 120$ maybe

#

From before

hot spindle
#

Not bad

#

I wonder if I could get that stuff on New egg for really cheap

pastel walrus
#

Can you keep the current pc and monitor or you have to sell it?

#

Most likely you can there are a bunch of sales in the states

hot spindle
#

It's technically not mine but I am the only one who uses it

pastel walrus
#

I see

#

Well building a PC is as simple as lego tbh

#

I was scared a bit first but its really simple and straightforward

#

And if you are an engineer or gonna be one you definitely have to build one yourself ;D

hot spindle
#

Cool well I just downloaded the game and we will see

#

I set all stuff to medium

#

Is there perhaps a tutorial?

pastel walrus
#

Shadows can be taxing in this game so turn them off and see

#

Theres a training course but its not that good yet. Best is to ask people to show you

#

Does it run okay?

hot spindle
#

Im about to test

#

Do i click "join the war"?

pastel walrus
#

Yes

hot spindle
#

Seems I must select warden

pastel walrus
#

Sure think. 2-3 days the war will reset and you can chose again

hot spindle
#

Yeah it doesn't run very well lol

pastel walrus
#

Try lowest setting

hot spindle
#

I am

#

getting around 10 fps...

pastel walrus
#

Yea game needs a dedicated card

hot spindle
#

rip

#

Well I guess I will just wait around a month

pastel walrus
#

First time I bought it i refunded too

#

Now I got a decent pc and love it now

hot spindle
#

Well I will do some more research on what you recommended

#

I'd like to be able to run all types of games so hopefully I can do that soon enough

pastel walrus
#

So all in all I would 100% recommend a 500-550$ desktop and a 200$ laptop instead of a 1000$ laptop that will underperform the 500$ PC. You will use a monitor anyway so you will be at a desk doing homework at the dorm

#

An Nvidia GTX 1060 GPU should be the baseline for your PC imo for that price point. And build a PC around it. Ryzen processors are super good value, and the motherboards for them are cheap too.

#

You will need 8GB ram at least, but make sure its dual channel meaning 2x4gb sticks its important.

hot spindle
#

I'll probably be getting 16gb

pastel walrus
#

Then 2x8gb

hot spindle
#

So what type of ryzen processor?

#

And this is all stuff to go in the frame right?

pastel walrus
#

Sure

#

Ryzen R3 series is 4 core CPU, R5 are 6 core

#

But even the cheapest R3 1200 will not bottleneck a gtx 1060

hot spindle
#

What do you mean bottleneck?

#

Like hold it back?

pastel walrus
#

Yes

#

It wont hold the Graphics card back

hot spindle
#

So what all would I need to get for a functioning PC?

pastel walrus
#

And in games Our performance is mostly based on how good your gpu is.

#

You need a
GPU gtx 1060
CPU ryzen R3 1200 / R5 2600
RAM 2x8GB
storage hdd/ssd
Motherboard
Power supply unit
PC case

hot spindle
#

Do you have any recommendations for the last 5?

#

I'm extremely unknowledgeable in this area

pastel walrus
#

How much data do you hoard? Lots of movies or games on your pc?

#

Do you need multiple TB of space?

hot spindle
#

No

#

I don't have a bunch of stuff on it

#

I'd have like 10 games at most

#

I'm the kind of dude who sticks to.a few certain games and plays those

pastel walrus
#

If 500gb is enough space you can just buy an SSD and no HDD whatsoever.

#

That means everything load super frecking fast

hot spindle
#

Alright

#

SSD's do?

pastel walrus
#

Also no moving parts so they make no noise

#

HDD and SSD is data storage. Hdd is the old spinning disks technology thats slow and noisy but its cheap.

#

SSD is the 'new' technology that has no moving parts in it, flash memory basically

#

Super fast

hot spindle
#

How much more expensive is SSD

pastel walrus
#

But compared toa hdd more expensive but they prices dropped ridiclously lately

hot spindle
#

Alright, is there a SSD you would recommend?

pastel walrus
#

I think a 500gb SSD is around 100$ i think. But you want to buy 120gb anyway.

#

120gb ssd + 1tb hdd or 500gb ssd is your choise. First option a bit cheaper but you only have little 'fast storage'

hot spindle
#

Hm

#

So for the motherboard?

pastel walrus
#

Cheapest one you can get doesnt matter really. Motherboards have a socket for the CPU thatbhas to match.

#

In case of ryzen its am4

#

Socket AM4

hot spindle
#

Alright, power supply and case?

pastel walrus
#

Brands dont matter much they are reliable

#

For mobo

#

Case pick one you like the look of

#

Good brands to look up are coolermaster as they are cheap and still quality

#

Spend at least 30$ on a case is the rule of tumb

hot spindle
#

Alright

pastel walrus
#

And you want MTX size

hot spindle
#

?

pastel walrus
#

Thats the medium

hot spindle
#

Ok

pastel walrus
#

Same for motherboard

hot spindle
#

And power supply unit?

pastel walrus
#

You get a 500W one

#

You need a respectable brand here

#

EVGA, Coolermaster, corsaid

#

Corsair

blissful sequoia
#

@sly mortar did you ever post a basic guide onvoicemeeter? I thought I remembered seeing something but maybe it was a fever dream

#

it was like a 3 picture guide i thought...

sly mortar
#

Uh

#

There's one on their website

#

But it's really easy

blissful sequoia
#

@tame schooner is installing it

#

and I haven't done it, I don't know how to advise, perhaps the link to their website guide is best

#

maybe the best way is to just install it, try the game, if it doesnt work take a screenshot of voicemeeter and we can point out the change to make?

hot spindle
#

So this GTX

#

The first one

pastel walrus
#

You can get the 3GB version if you are going to game on a 1080p monitor

hot spindle
#

Mk

pastel walrus
#

Its really a cost effective gpu, the 3gb one

#

Look up that ones price

hot spindle
pastel walrus
#

Hmm

#

It should be cheaper

#

Lol

hot spindle
#

I'll look around

#

How about that 184 one

#

I wonder if the best buy near me has this stuff

pastel walrus
#

Yeah its great. Although 214$ for the 6gb version compared to 185 for 3gb might be worth it

hot spindle
#

True

#

Also I found this when looking for the ryzen

#

They're all bundled

tame schooner
#

@blissful sequoia I was playing a lil bit with voicemeeter

#

I managed to get it to work in game

#

but my speakers were not working

#

I have not had in game sound

blissful sequoia
#

can you please show us a screen shot of the windows sound control panel, the playback tab, and also voicemeeter?

tame schooner
#

that was like 1 month ago

pastel walrus
#

Thing is a ryzen 3 2200g is not worth it for you.

#

But a ryzen 3 1200 is around 90$

#

Same performance in your case

tame schooner
#

where is playback tab?

blissful sequoia
#

i think its the first one

hot spindle
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What do you mean?

blissful sequoia
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lemme check, i mix things up. i keep calling voicemeeter soundmeeter lol

hot spindle
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So it may be worth it to buy them apart

tame schooner
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its voicemeeter

blissful sequoia
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hmm i cant pull up my sound control panel. well, it should be the first tab is the output

pastel walrus
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Ryzen 2200g is an APU means it has a very weak gpu inside, like your cpu right now. But you are getting a GPU. Sonits not used at all. Otherwise its performance is same as r3 1200.

tame schooner
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ok

hot spindle
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I tyinki found one

pastel walrus
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So getting a 2200g + dedicated gpu is a waste of money becuase you wont use the 'mini gpu' inside the 2200g

hot spindle
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So I should invest in a r3 1200?

tame schooner
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This is playback

hot spindle
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Since it won't use the mini GPU in the 2200

blissful sequoia
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ok great, so first thing i would do is right click the voicemeeter input and set as default output device

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now the game sounds should be routed into voicemeeter

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you will have to restart game

pastel walrus
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R3 1200 vs R3 1300x

blissful sequoia
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actually you might not have to restart - it might be automatic

tame schooner
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How about voicemeeter output?

pastel walrus
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1200 is 90$ , 1300x 120$ and only about 9% faster than a 1200

blissful sequoia
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voicemeeter output should be the speakers or wherever you want to hear it

tame schooner
blissful sequoia
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hmm, i dunno the mic part, maybe @sly mortar

pastel walrus
blissful sequoia
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you said your mic was already working in game? i wouldnt mess with it then

sly mortar
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Huh

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Send Mic into voicemeeter Hardware Input 1

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Send Desktop Audio into it by setting the program as default device in Mic and Audio

blissful sequoia
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if he sets mic to voicemeeter output it will play all his game sounds into the mic - not what he wants, right?

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ok so i guess you do set voicemeeter hardware output as the default communicate device in the sound control panel, MisterSoviet

tame schooner
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ok I am in agme

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game

blissful sequoia
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and then some final tweaking in voicemeeter?

tame schooner
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and I dont have sound

blissful sequoia
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hm ok, exit the game, load a youtube video - do you hear sound from that?

tame schooner
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Only thing I can hear is other people voice chats in game

sly mortar
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Did you set the desktop audio to be default to Voicemeeter?

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Because you also need to set the default Output in voicemeeter to be your headset

tame schooner
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no i have not set

blissful sequoia
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yes, i think we will also need the screen shot of voicemeeter, MisterSoviet

sly mortar
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Yeah, set it then.

tame schooner
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how ?

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Voicemeeter

sly mortar
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Hardware Input 1 = Mic
Virtual Input = Windows Default
Virtual Output = Windows Default
Hardware Out (A1) = Headset

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Set Mic to go to B
Set Virtual Input to go to A

blissful sequoia
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i told him to change his windows default output to voicemeeter - maybe it should be set back to speakers?

sly mortar
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No, it should be voicemeeter

blissful sequoia
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ok phew

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his headset is wired through the speaker output, I think

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so I think that's already set correctly

tame schooner
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How do I change virtual input

sly mortar
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Go to Sounds > Inputs > Set Voicemeeter as Default

blissful sequoia
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windows sound control panel?

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or is there a setting for that in voicemeeter?

tame schooner
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I already did that in windows sound control panel

blissful sequoia
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in both panels?

tame schooner
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Not in voicemeeter

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I cant change that in voicemeeter

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I guess it takes windows default

hot spindle
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Wait can't you build PC's on Newegg?

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Also @pastel walrus thank you

pastel walrus
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I dont know never used that site

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But im sure you can make a list of components

hot spindle
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Alright

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So what about a monitor?

sly mortar
hot spindle
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Ah ok

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So with the that 184.99 GTX and the r3 1200 it's at 274.98 so far

tame schooner
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still dont have sound in game

hot spindle
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Should I be picky about the SSD?

pastel walrus
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No

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Get a kingston one

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They are usually cheap and reliable

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Or samsung

tame schooner
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and I dont have sound on youtube

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completely dont have sound

pastel walrus
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Or adata, team group is decent too

blissful sequoia
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yes you should be picky, samsung evo 970, right?

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you may have trouble finding a 1060 these days, unless you buy used

pastel walrus
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Nah no need to be picky they are literally the same stuff manufactured in china and rebranded :D

blissful sequoia
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lots of video cards available from china for cheap

hot spindle
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There aren't any 500gb, only 480gb

pastel walrus
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Yes

tame schooner
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Is this good?

pastel walrus
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480gb

blissful sequoia
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stalin, no waaaaay

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ssd is NOT the same

hot spindle
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Here is a 68 dollar one

blissful sequoia
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yep give it a try, MisterSoviet

tame schooner
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Does not work

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I completely dont have sound

pastel walrus
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I have the a400 kingston it works great

blissful sequoia
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how could it not have any sound now at all what

pastel walrus
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I dont know that team group brand but it has good reviews too

tame schooner
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I dont have sound in game

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And on youtube

hot spindle
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That brings it up to 334.97 now

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Now for a mobo

blissful sequoia
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stalin that drive is like ... generations old

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imagine an ssd that looks like a card deck still!

hot spindle
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Wow motherboard prices are all over

tame schooner
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why did I even do anything

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ffs

hot spindle
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Don't k ow how much to spend

blissful sequoia
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lol youre just a few settings from having it working mistersoviet

tame schooner
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whaaa

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t

blissful sequoia
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yea i know, its close tho

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i guess i will install voicemeeter and look myself

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goodbye derp's perfectly working audio...

hot spindle
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What's a solid price for mobo

blissful sequoia
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@hot spindle you want 500 GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD for your SSD