#technical-chat
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ive started leaning on the built-in windows 10 recording software for quick clips and stuff
a recording would be nice because other people can review it later and they might see something we dont
Yes, but I have OBS for that.
what is OBS?
Icanari I will screen share to you
Recording software.
ok
Let me see if it will do Discord...
@tame schooner also please try mapping your aim button to a different key, like backspace or something
can foxhole remap that key?
id better check.
Maybe?
yes it can
poor soviet has a LOT of problems with his game
a suspicious number of them ...
voice chat AND aim freezing
ooooh clever
One second while I upload
and voice chat one I dont care anymore
what if its the same cause tho
no its not
the odds of having 2 distinct problems is very low
I was not able to use voice chat whole time
oh.
and the aim problem occured yesterday
at 18:00 CET
why would I lie about issues of my game
that I bought
lmao
you probably wouldnt
Quick Synopsis while the video is dumb: Whenever he clicked right mouse, the aiming line just didn't show up, and he froze.
i didnt say you were a liar
im just thinking odds of 2 distinct problems is pretty unlikely, but maybe
hmm
his character froze?
whole screen froze
Whole screen.
for 3 s
is mouse pointer visible?
The game cursor stayed visible.
what it looks liek to me is the right mouse button doesnt work
and everybody else keeps running around
where do i look for the freezing
54 seconds
ty
Is when it starts
ok i see
so my theory is that his right mouse button is tied to running some script that causes him instant PC lag
right mouse button works...
Hey @tame schooner, could you go to your searchbar on the task bar, and type dxdiag. If a script comes up, could you run it?
my thinking is if he maps the aim key to a different button, then it wont trigger the script, and he wont see freezing
yes I went on dxdiag yesterday
and if thats true, then track down the program running and kill it. if not, well ... wtf.
Did you post the dxdiag here?
nope I have not
is there a CPU/hdd graph we could watch, perfmon perhaps
Could you send it to me?
yes
to see if there is a spike across the system, outside of foxhole
Note: my language is different
Not that I can remember.
resource monitor is the windows 10 one? hm
@tame schooner have you tried remapping aim key yet?
no I have not I will now when I send dxdiag pic
This is what my task manager looks like @blissful sequoia
so many cpus
It's the logical processors.
Wow.
in 2 years you will scoff at so few cores
theyre already outdated
1.5TB ram too
virtualization disabled? are you using hyper-v?
there was something that made that appear disabled, right? ... something.
Virtualization is mainly for servers.
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i took all my keys off my keyboard and cleaned it. now i cant which button is actually print screen
That's his.
uh
@tame schooner Could you try setting your graphics settings at minimum?
Because that is a... very slow chip.
its not that bad
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i can play this game on low graphic settings with an intel hd5000, and thats a 600 score
its not great but yea
i didnt realize it was a laptop, however.
which always leads me back to power settings
balanced mode is your enemy with video card stuff, you want to set it into performance mode, 100% on all the power stuff
and plug in
Are you on full performance mode?
also, did you try the aim key remap? what happened?
yes
i just want to rule out the mouse button
Ok I just remembered there was 1 key that lead to this freeze
3 days ago
I randomly pressed P and it froze like that
now it switched on mouse right button
duplicate monitor output!
how to do that
WAIT
P is the sceenshot button
Go to settings, make sure that you didn't set RMB as the Foxhole sceenshot button.
windows key + p brings up the projector options
oooooh
what if rms is screen shot!
my aim remap should test that easily
Doesn't take nearly as much processor as the Foxhole screenshot key.
It was?
SORRY
No, it's completely fine.
LMFAO
This is what we're here for.
is it?
yes it is
thanks
Yeah, I just thought of that because my PC, with an 8700K, and a 1070 takes like 2 seconds to take one of those.
which is dumb, but hey
@tame schooner What have you tried for the Sound Issue?
I did vivox fix and DNS one but nothing worked
Could you try the detector on this one? https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/374272127953666048/525082460585852948
you said it was vivox 8-6 error? if only i could just read into the past what was said...
Voice chat error [8] 6-0
heh yea i found it
also this: Derp: so my theory is that his right mouse button is tied to running some script that causes him instant PC lag
where i was right about the mouse button 16 minutes ago
Not a script exactly, but close.
i was imagining a macro in his mouse software config
but screen shot button would have worked in my mind for "script"
i am proud of my deduction for a saturday night
this is almost as good as that guy who just had to verify his game files and it fixed everything
I changed my DNS back
I.. don't remember.
i think its the most common connectivity one, ill check pinned
Let me go check my little list...
oh thats [8]-6
but maybe the same error, right? its the DNS pinned message it says that
Alright, I don't know the second two numbers off my list, but 8 stands for the Push To Talk function.
yes
That's what the 8 means.
In about, 8-12 hours I can have what the second one means probably.
do you happen to know the error code people were commonly having with DNS problems or connectivity?
im kind of thinking any of the SIP ALG stuff is a red herring due to the encrypted nature of vivox
has voice chat ever worked for you, @tame schooner?
I think so
wow.
I just went in game
i cant believe youve missed out on all the chatter since then
they had to use different servers to handle crossing regions, and they went with a classic SIP protocol for VOIP communication
its always like that, it works 1 time or just does not work
No, they used to use a completely different method that was built into the engine.
but lots of people have trouble with it due to the networking
Yeah.
people hate it more tho. why?
Before Vivox I hadn't done a voice error in... 6 months, and that was just the guy didn't do his mic right.
its such better quality than the one they had before
because his has never worked, i think its possibly the mic or sound setup
i think voicemeeter solves his problem, yet again
dunno if it will work great on a laptop, what do you think?
@tame schooner a 3rd party and free program voicemeeter makes a virtual audio cable that can be redirected; it has solved the vivox problem for several people here
frankly, its helped so many people for the vivox issues it might just be worth having a pinned message about it @sly mortar
I'll write one.. soonโข
lol
Need to sleep rn.
totally
he should try that, seems like most people have been able to rig it up without any/much help
maybe you were DMing them in the background tho, i dunno
im guessing that would solve his voice chat problems then
thanks for helping record that Icanari
I will try that after I eat
oh god time change, i forgot.
I mean, I actually kind of like it... but.
then you can get up an hour earlier
On every other day except today.
this is the last year, the last time i change my clocks for DST
im staying on DST after tonight
im going to root my phone and fix it then
80% of my clocks need manual adjustment
Get better clocks.
its not even about the clocks really; its like the second highest rate of heart attacks or something after christmas
or maybe its the #1
high rate of car accidents, for what! so i can wake up grumpy
its amazing this game can run on a video card that scores 600 on passmark
starcraft 2 came out like 10 years ago and would literally kidney punch my video card to this day
do I download voicemeeter
yes i think
oh uhh ... probably voicemeeter
its probably easier to configure with the whole software package
VB-CABLE is a virtual audio device working as virtual audio cable. All signals coming in the CABLE input is going to the CABLE output. Then It becomes simple to make computer audio recording or to connect a player application to a recorder one.
this is for virtual audio cable
yea the voicemeeter software uses vb-cable, its like a front-end interface for it all I think
Voicemeeter
Voicemeeter is Audio Mixer Application endowed with Virtual Audio Device used as Virtual I/O to mix and manage any audio sources from or to any audio devices or applications.
Voicemeeter @tame schooner
so youd redirect your mic into a vb-cable, and then set foxhole to voice communicate over the vb-cable mic [citation needed]
ok
@blissful sequoia Nope. It can be done completely through Voicemeeter, as it brings its own connections with it.
im always shocked when it works, but it does lol
oh ok
well im going to bed too before DST, gnight, good luck
So uh, yeah. I can't install the game for some reason. I uninstalled it earlier and now I can't install it back after having some trouble getting the devbranch to work.
In the download menu on Steam, it says Paused CONTENT FILE LOCKED.
The file in question is (apparently) Steam\steamapps\common/Foxhole\War\Binaries\Win64\War-Win64-Shipping.exe
I have already tried verifying integrity of game files, to no avail. Running steam in Administrator mode doesn't seem to help either.
I think this has to do with permissions
Also @blissful sequoia @sly mortar it was just his RMB being screenshot key? kms
holy shit that's the last thing I'd think of
its the first thing i thought of
i had window's new image program running in the background once, and it started indexing and thumbnailing a huge directory and the game started stuttering
and i sort of realized this game is more sensitive to a cpu spike or hard drive use than i would have expected
@tame schooner did you get soundmeeter figured out?
it sounds like it was going to fix his audio/voice problem if configured completely
I have not
I know it works
voice chat works in game with voicemeeter
just I cant set up output and input devices
@tame schooner and was the windows sound control panel already set to your headset for the default playback device? I assume that is the right setup
or maybe it needs to be set to voicemeeter, but either way i think th ats the solution to fixing game sound
@blissful sequoia @inner basin I'd say this is a pretty good representation of our tech support.
you get what you pay for
hes stuck at voice working but regular game sounds not after voicemeeter install
is it possible to assign 'no-key' in keyboard options?
Hello, been looking at foxhole, but how resource heavy is pc wise?
@remote sluice I can run Foxhole on low settings and at like 15% resolution scale at 60 fps ๐ using Intel graphics, which are crappy
Not very graphically heavy, on my other PC I have a GTX 950 (kind of old and underpowered) and it can run max settings at avg. 35-45 fps
I play on a laptop
@fervent nymph errr, restart Steam?
i tried that, twice
oh well tho, playin somethin else with my brother, i'll try tomorrow
The game is very CPU intensive due to the fact they use blueprints instead of C++
Still runs better than most games, but could easily be ported to mobile if it was pure C++
you are high.
just what part of mobile do you think runs on C++ lol
well crew, are we excited for the next patch? did anyone here play it?
from a technical perspective i mean. i didnt see any particular engine breaking changes or network code stuffs
well i meant the dev branch i guess
"Content File Locked" problem is still yet to be solved.
Can't install the game because of it. If I had to gander a guess, I'd assume it might have to do with faction locking or something?
To avoid people swapping factions by reinstalling the game or something?
Wait, do you even have the game installed at all?
No, I uninstalled it, and now I can't install it.
Uh.. re-install steam?
That's all I can think of.
That's 99% Steam's fault, not Foxhole's.
Not an issue with any other game.
It even says which file it's "locking".
"Steam\steamapps\common/Foxhole\War\Binaries\Win64\War-Win64-Shipping.exe"
It might have to do with permissions... but I don't know much about those
Did you restart your computer?
Hit it
Hello. I'm coming back to play after ~12 months. Made no changes to my PC, but after updating game it's now unplayable due to walking stutter lag. Any ideas? I was playing on high detail previously and I've moved this down to low. Firing, punching, and watching other people run around looks to have no stutter / lag.
@blissful sequoia are you a mongoloid? The game is MOSTLY programmed using blueprints. Which uses an INTERPRETER. The code for the game is INTERPRETED at runtime, not compiled incurring uneccessary CPU overhead. C++ on the otherhand is a compiled langauge. And if you haven't noticed the amount of TFLOPS being put out bat the latest gen Snapdragon and Bionic chips it could easily be achievable. Again the problem is the interpreted langauges.
im not sure what you mean by blueprints
Do you have any idea how UE4 or code even works?
UE4 has a visual programming language called Blueprints
yea i know my way around some code
Using a modified python interpreter
If you don't know much about the UE4 engine or code in general don't respond with half ass comments then. plzkthx
im not familiar with UE4, but i am with unity, so swap c# for python, it makes little difference
So then what the hell was the point of your comment?
and mobile is pretty heavily in objective C or java. python is more mobile friendly than c++
Friendly does not mean performant.
cant UE4 games be compiled for ios and android binaries, anyway?
Yes, but the interpreter is compiled into the binary blob along with the blueprints.
The code isn't transpiled into C++, and then compiled.
That's impossible
But they've been trying to achieve that with a beta tool. Still unstable.
Again what the hell was the point of your comment?
thats going to make little difference in performance, c++ is not a holy grail
Blueprints perform at 1/10th the performance of native C++
If your code does updates on every single frame
guess what happens
then that 1% of the code gets 10x slower
Hey fellas, mind moving this to code talk please? Want to keep this channel open for those needing technical support.
Thanks : )
is the server down?
i try to join the skirmish and it goes back to join war screen
Is it possible to assign 'no-key' in keyboard options?
I've been looking for the config file so I can append multi key shortcuts
Lemme see if I can find it
Question.
Is there a way to have a private or pw protected server to do some clan training?
yea i think youre supposed to ask KrazyFlyinChicken for that, @limber isle
@serene hare config is in %appdata%\..\local\Foxhole\ for windows
oh maybe its not actually, maybe its just in the steam directory
Config is there, you're correct @blissful sequoia
h
so this patch rolled out smoothly in terms of tech problems
yea? is that what everyone's been saying to you? smooth rollout?
more like "omg bias!!" or "halp we're being steamrolled"
Although I haven't played in the war yet
lol
im shocked there arent more noobs in here with troubles related to vivox or whatever else
just because of the sale
I'm getting the "unable to download shard info []" error. I've rebooted, disabled my firewall completely, added specific firewall settings for port 443, verified my lifes, restarted steam, etc, etc.
I can edit my profile just fine though
@hybrid fjord what do you see here? https://s3.amazonaws.com/clapfoot-test-bucket/test.json
not bad

has it ever worked for you before?
I just bought it
hrm
I cannot think of anything. Someone else here may have ideas; it may be worth filing in the bugreport if youre committed for the long-term
maybe there is something buried deep in the pinned messages...
I'll take a look and keep trying, if I can't figure it out in the next few hours I'll submit a bug report
you just have an ordinary household router?
no I'm using a hotspot and I'm thinking that is the issue
I'm about to switch connections and see if that helps
yea thats great if you can test
those hotspots get intercepted sometimes for a web login
doesnt interrupt random protocols, but that shard info is http/https they like to manipulate...
doesn't look like it makes any difference
Just got the game a few hours ago and have been having the same issue, went through the same fixes and got the same result from that test
Kinda out of ideas so came here to see if I'm missing anything
On a router running off of university ethernet
Figured that might be blocking the port but it appears to be open
so not total control of game ports and stuff maybe
@hybrid fjord what do you see when you go to http://s3.amazonaws.com/clapfoot-test-bucket/test.json ?
hopefully the same thing
this patch just game out today, so it could also be a new problem
you already searched the hell out of this huh duke?
i feel like im just following in your footsteps a few paces
so possibly antivirus or firewall
did it work?
I would love to know as well
sadly no but it is for sure a port forwarding issue
my device isn't rooted, so I can't edit my iptables
@stray jewel did you check to see if your port is open?
The port forwarding tester is a utility used to identify your external IP address and detect open ports on your connection. This tool is useful for finding out if your port forwarding is setup correctly or if your server applications are being blocked by a firewall.
is what I used
I can forward ports over 1024 lol
Yeah, does seem to be closed, will have to fiddle with router see if I can get it open
Router: "YOU. SHALL NOT. PASS" Sorry. Had to. Carry on.
well there is this thing called ngrok
it's kinda like tunneling mixed with a VPN
anyway getting the game to look for the URL ngrok provides and not your device IP address is a chore and it's time for me to go to bed
thanks for the help though
how do you know its a port issue? its all outgoing stuff, it shouldnt require any forwards
i think its worth a bug report - 2 people with the same problem new to the game; I think the devs would like to know about this
Hi, i'm new to the game downloaded it and keep getting a message that my version is outdated, plus as soon as I try to leave home base to travel it crashes
@trail igloo Hi. When you launch the game what is the version number in the bottom right corner of the screen?
Does anyone know how to lock the cursor inside windowed game? That's pretty annoying and risky to shut down game. Nothing found in the Internet.
Ok so this has been going on for a while so my game I canโt hear any one speek what so ever I can hear gun fire and every thing itโs just voice chat they can hear me but I canโt hear them
What is the process for foxhole called? Steam thinks its running when to my eyes it isnt. I cant find its process to force close it.
war, war64, war-shipping i think
@dark minnow will try
Hooyah thanks
Does this game support Modding? Id really like to revamp the inventory system.
No modding supported
i can't hear voice chat
@astral lance #technical-read-firstโ
we are pretty good at fixing the voice chat
if the pinned messages dont solve your problems...
for some reason i can't disable SIP ALG on my huawei router
the SIP ALG setting is usually found in the security menu
yeah i found it but i can't disable it
i think this is a problem related to my router
well i guess no voice chat for me
do you know the model name of the router?
huawei HG8247H
I've gotten a new Dell computer with an i7 processor and tried running foxhole. My computer, seems to make running foxhole worse. Settings worse than the low on my former laptop not even working. Please dear god help.
@royal prairie so i guess you found nothing, that's ok man it's probably fault of my retarded chinese router i even tried disabling it using telnet but that didn't work too
yeah, normally u can this disable i dont know your problem sry
no problem man
Hi guys, I just bought the game. I'm also getting the ''unable to download shard info []'' error. Port 443 is open and my firewall disabled. I've tried just about anything I could find.
<@&521124241395941396> ^
Which problem?
like that time they had somethign related to hyper-v that caused a similar issue
the unable to download shard info []
Way more than 3 people have had that.
3 competent people with the same problem, i think theyre all new
hard to tell if its related to the latest patch or not
Nope
It's been happening since... 2 updates before Vivox.
I'd suggest DMing KFC about it, with all related info.
other people found fixes with their firewalls, but not the latest 3
(or antivirus?)
How do I prevent my game from forgetting all options I applied evertime I restart it?
Right atleast the last 10+ times I started the game I have to turn click away the tutorial messages, turn off chat click-sound, adjust soundlevels and so on.
@topaz kettle may not relate to this game but in other games i have this issue id setup my settings the way i want them. then close the game correctly using the menu game to quit. if using windowed or taskmanager to close the gam,e down it can be considered a crash wiping the info.
stuck on loading screen for 3 minutes while crossing border in a transport followed by this:
Cant get anywhere
<@&521124241395941396> anyone able to help him? i directed him to #technical-read-firstโ ๐
Did you check what shard your using
He is on the live build, he has issues traveling from the tent
I think he's on fisherman's now
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I tryed to travel 6th time and it worked.
oh alright! good
It sometimes caused by bad internet connection, generally if you're using wifi or something in the background that eats up some internet usage
@cinder yarrow the problem is can be your internet problem or maybe your computer is bad
you can lower resolution scale and get more performance
its a slider bar in the graphics settings
For some reason I cant hear other players chat. Can see dialogue box, but cant hear anything
check the pinned messages about voice chat
we have solutions for voice chat problems
Hey can anyone help me I can see the operations on my map and cant join any?
you are certain there is an operation on your map?
maybe there just arent any
can you confirm anyone else can see any?
Right, so I followed both the DNS and Vivox - Verify - Restart fixes, and I still cannot hear anyone over voice.
I see the icons, all other in game sound works - and nothing.
SIP ALG seems to be enabled <@&521124241395941396>
UDP True - TCP Failed
Timed out for later.
the error is [6-0]?
[6-0]? I do not see an error code of that format.
Just could not perform SIP TCP Test.
nevermind that i was mistaking that for something else from earlier
Disabled UDP, TCP still fails.
UDP SIP ALG was on before.
Wasn't working.
Just turned it off.
Turning it back on I guess since that did nothing.
This is my first time posting anything here.
Not a continuation of anything - just went through the FAQ before pinging heh.
well i assume youre having troubles with ingame voice or VoIP
Yes.
Right, so I followed both the DNS and Vivox - Verify - Restart fixes, and I still cannot hear anyone over voice.
usually if its a problem with VoIP it would be SIP ALG thats causing interferences with that but if youve disabled it and it still hasnt come back on, you could try setting the port that the VoIP for foxhole as open and setting it to udp/tcp
What port is that?
now personally i dont know port that is Exactly
Ooof.
so hopefully someone else knows that one
but i could also say updating your router firmware and even your Pcs ethernet drivers, but im doubtful that would make a massive difference since thats rarely needed
I've already done that for another thing ja.
Forwarded 5060 since that's what the test seems to use.
Testing now.
yeah i was going to say the standard port for VoIP is 5060
foxhole mostlikely uses that
Doesn't seem to have worked.
Yeah, nope.
This is the first game I've ever played which has failed this hard on VOIP heh.
Anything else I can do?
<@&521124241395941396>
then tbh u just gonna need to do the link point till it works
I actually did that.
oh
Reinstalled.
Did you try the link I sent?
Yep.
Im all out of ideas then
Mhm.
Was the first thing.
Tried changing DNS?
What error are you getting in-game?
There is no error message. It says it connects to voice successfully and I see icons above people's heads - but no audio.
And yes volumes are turned up.
Have you made sure the voice settings are correct?
I saw those errors in the other games
Like, which items it outputs to?
There's only one option for input and output.
Yep.
Alright. Go to windows sounds, and make sure those settings are correct.
k
Because my computer was out for an update when I was trying to get commissions done earlier ๐
Try reverting the update.
I asked you because on other games the voice chats did not show up
and after the updates
everything was good
Foxhole is strange.
Indeed it is
SSDs make the restart / reinstall process much faster. Reinstalling now.
Make sure to delete those files before reinstalling.
I already did.
In the worst case You will buy a new computer ๐

Lol. Just fix your VOIP plugin.
if only
so I've been telling them since they implemented it.
The game itself runs fine on max settings - so I don't see a reason VOIP should be this annoying.
the voip is a 3rd party
And just peripherally implemented.
we can't do shit except reinstalling it
and begging devs to fix their shit
uhh
will voicemeeter fix his stuff if its not network trouble/
i cant remember when we decide voicemeeter is the answer
its when the networking is not a problem, but vivox cant use the mic for whatever reason
and at least 1 person had to use a VPN to connect to vivox
@blissful sequoia It's when literally nothing else works.
the worst scenario is when the network is severed, because we cant do anything about it ๐ฆ
but the DNS + voicemeeter seem to fix every other voice problem
honestly - i dont get it - every big PC game in the world seems to be using vivox, i wonder if those players are equally unable to connect
I was digging around the other day, I think mt1p-mim-f5.vivox.com might be the dns of the vivox server I connect to
suppose we had the actual dns, or we at least know the IP address, what's a good SIP test for udp+ssl?
We shouldn't need one.
something we could ask people to try to see if they can connect to the specific vivox servers - or perhaps the devs would share this info with us
Vivox doesn't use those as far as I know.
we can easily test the user's DNS, determine its working correctly
but some way to test if the simple vivox ports are reachable; to determine if its network related or game related
asking people to use a vpn is too much for a test
hello people i have a question
so my pcs requirments are : Geforce 710M 1gb; 4 gb ram ; intel core i3 2.33 ghz
can it run ?
@desert atlas Probably. I would try it, and if it doesn't, refund it within the 2 hours.
like my laptop turned itself off 2 times
maybe cuz of operating system i dont know
no problems about the frame drops tho
windows 10
same thing happens on discord games
maybe while i have discord on that happens
hello all i need a little bit of help
when i go to join the war she pops up saying No Home Region Found
@digital willow rtry checking the pinned messages
and see if those solutions will help
shall do
@digital willow try to refresh
๐ฎ holy fuck drop my firewall and play around with drivers
as in restart the computer?
Drivers are easy but turning off firewall dunno how i fell about that
feel*
u don't have to turn it off
There's refresh button when you click join war/browse events
u can also just check and make sure the firewall allows foxhole
ohh yer i have been trying that easy time
but to no succes
success
i'll have a look to see if its allowed
yer @proud dagger Foxholes ticked
so its allowed
restart PC
or restart steam
andd verify foxhole cache just as another measure
and try
also now coming to say failed to download shared info when refreshed
alright restarting
No luck
Still dosen't work thanks tho for trying to help
Game is black screen
yeah just fixed
neato
My pc just needed a punchin
kek
@sly mortar you said somebody already filed a bug report about the shards months ago? Do we have any sense of what the cause is? Is it routing?
@blissful sequoia nope. We have literally nothing.
so i can think outside the box then...
like what if its not related to networking, what if it happens in the network init code, then the exception bubbles down and just reports cant find shard
nah... probably not
it's actually ridiculous it cant give more error info than that, when someone filed the bug they should have spit out more debug info
i think the 4 people who have come in here to seek help represent a lot more people who just uninstalled instead
So when I move around there is a slight stutter every half second or so, and doesn't change with any graphics settings. Is there a known fix for this?
I have problems with the mic i cant hear and speak to nobody,my mic is good im speaking with a friend at discord while gameing can someone hlep me casue this kill the game
If you know how to fix is pls dm me,THX
@gentle canopy do you have any other programs running in the background? could be that
@fickle plinth please check out the pinned tabs here. Check your voice settings in Foxhole also to set the voice devices
@narrow escarp Call the one that is shafting you. Complaining really works as long as your respectful about it. Worst case nothing happens, best case is better speeds.
@molten summit i'd imagine but i personally don't know what internet companies in other areas do, so I wont speak as if I do.
Fair enooough
You're on desktop yeah? Do you know why NIC card you got?
No idea what any of that means
I got my computer because it glowed red
and was not a white old school pc
do you like AMD?
Building a PC? These are the parts to get.
lol that chart looks pretty damn accurate
maybe by like american standards
hardware so cheap here
Lol, that chart is outdated on ram prices.
Old Man Yells at Cloud
its just a baseline
yea ram is about 20% more
Ram is so inflated rn in price. Good thing I got 32gb years back.
Yeah, it seems solid.
@narrow escarp Are you plan on upgrading your new comp or starting from scratch?
psh you think ram is inflated, try buying 64GB chips
New
Is your current case too small?
using cases omegelul
if you dont ahve your pc in a shoebox all cobbled together youre doign it wrong
lol
probably start with motherboard, it may inform your case size
micro vs full atx
single video card, probably a gaming board? youve got to decide amd or intel
prolly gonna be an atx
dunno why you need all those pci slots for just 1 video card...
like no pcs use micro atx except niche small ones
im not talking mini-itx
its just a regular mobo with 3 pci slots
instead of 5? or 6? for full atx
A normal mobo with ddr4 support and LGI 1151 for intel cpu is pretty good for a starting point
but the new 1151 lol, not the old one
of course
hahaah screw you, intel!
its not even like 1151-b
its like 1151 (this one isnt compatible with your stuff)
tbh i would go for amd
just so i dont have to shelf out like 50 usd extra for the brand name
to get % more performance
3%*
if money were no object/limitation, then intel
also cpus are kinda at their limit for gaming nowdays anyways
like if youre doing any editing shit go for intel
but just for gaming hh
ehhh
agreed
although you cannot get any workstation-grade motherboards for AMD
its all just consumer/desktop or server
yeah but he aint buying a workstation :x
@narrow escarp Anyway, unless you're PC is from the 90s try hooking an ethernet cable into it and then see the speeds. It may drastically go up and problems may be solved. If not, check what speeds you're supposed to be getting from your internet deal. If it's below, call them up and state you're getting slow speeds. It really does work.
Probably the easiest solution for fixing your internet problem rn.
well, say for example you want a gaming machine with ECC RAM, cause you believe in that, its not an option in the AMD world
actually it might be...
yeah but whats the point of ecc
in a personal computer for gaming and stuff
he aitn making something thats gonna run 24/7 for 10 years
i dunno, is it too ridiculous to think it might help reduce blue screens of death?
the random once a year one
my desktop uptime right now is like ... i dunno 30 days
well it just never crashes
and i figured out how to shut off windows updates...
maybe its just so you can say you have ECC
you know the clasis system service exception as well
didnt those mac trash can towers use ECC?
dont go nuts with case fans ...
3 to look cool and to "improve" airflow iny our case
lmao
like my friend
are case fans even needed
i dont see the point of them tho
quiet
wat
e.g. quieter than any water cooling system
i literraly slapped a coolermaster heatsink on my pc
and the only time i hear it is when my keyboard falls off so i have to pick it up so my head is right next to it
whatd you do about the video card?
if you have a stock fan then we are not talking about the same level of quiet
tbh i dont hear my video card fan
haha!
got used to its constant buzing i think
the video card fan was teh loudest fan of all
so my brain just ignored it
constant buzzing? do you have a nvidia 9xx?
nah
its noz buzzing
its that uhh
stock cooler amd fan
that tries to spin to infinite adn beyond
sound
atleast i think it was that sound
why did you change the spawn time. it now takes a minute and a half to spawn after death
as i said my brain drowned it out pretty much
yea so, id say 3 parts to make your computer quiet and cool:
- gold+ rated power supply with quiet fans, like seasonic stuff
- largest possible CPU fans (140mm idea, 120mm is standard) with 4pin PWM connectors, noctua is such a good brand
- aftermarket GPU fan
its about ... $100 extra but you dont have to water cool and its ridiculously quiet with good temps
i mean if hes gonna get a graphics card
these: https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Accelero-Efficient-VRM-Cooling-DCACO-V800001-GBA01/dp/B00HHMJIIO aftermarket GPU coolers are pretty great
hes prolly gonna get one from msi or the other guys
but removing the fan and replacing it might take a little more skill than a complete novice
dont they add custom collers?
yea they all suck...
they put on the smallest cheapest fans they can buy (on pretty nice heat sinks)
we should prolly ask moore if he even cares about the sound
the blowers are the worst, because the cards get worse performance and run hotter
everyone should care about the sound!
oh god.
bassicly you dont hear anything
and somehow it dosent overheat
he got lower temps than i do ...
o geez
i forgot ho to use cpu -z
to show temps
tbh i should upgrade my pc
my overhead LED lights are louder than my computer now
i dont think a fx 8350 and a gtx 1050 ti will hold me much longer anyways
and ddr3 ram
like the ram is my main concern
altrough i dont have any problems rn
its nagging my soul that i dint upgrade anything for 6 years now
actually wait no
2 years
or 3
got the 1050 ti
@amber kite @blissful sequoia my pc crashed during this conversation
It knows....
Im in Danger
i hope thats not how it works, i look at computer parts all day
I'm going on part picker now
ill click on things
and link it
here
Ill also use complete sentences. I have no idea what kind of text vomit that just was on your screen.
Strong PC. Good for hax.
confused sccreaming
Im much more confused then anyone
Im literally throwing money at it
and dont want to think about pcs for another 3 - 5 years
why go for crossfire
you ever tried to setup crossfire before?
(its a bit cancer imo)
scratch crossfire then
get a nvdia card
slap it in
andbe done with it
32 gb of ram is overkill jesus christ dude
1x16gb sticks is enough
@narrow escarp you werent kidding about shut up and take my money huh your cpu costs more than my whole current setup
Yea,
Im done with the crap top
saved the money to blow it on something nice
It was either this or rebuild the deck and redo the frontyard
then I realized I own house flipper so fuck that shit
1 TB?????
of SSD?
what
my inner budget is screaming rn
you pretty much went a bit overboard imo
like i dont imagine you ever needing more than 16 gb of ram
if youre nto doing editing or super heavy load stuff
Neither do I am building for the I never have to build again scenario
hey guys, I wondered why the CTRL+LMB shortcut doesn't work for me?
I mean on the map sorry
uh
What
only bind I changed is middle mouse to thumb mouse button
What do you do with ctrl lmb on the map
region map, A1K1
Oh
shoudl paste the coords in the chat right?
ok nvm
just did that
I redo that bind and try again
ok now it works
strange but thanks
I guess I had something on CTRL then
@narrow escarp thats the wrong kind of SSD
you want m.2 nvme
it looks like a long chip, not a small card box
"m.2 22xx"
@blissful sequoia thanks, hows the rest of it look other than overkill
make sure it says nvme, not ssd
its like 2-10x faster than SSD
the case looks way too expensive for what it is
Guys, i have a problem with connecting to server. "Lost connection to server. Please try again. You know how to fix that?
dont buy 3 cpu coolers, by the way, but you may want 1 extra 120mm 4 pin pwm fan for it, seagate 2TB drive is BAD
seagate 2TB drive will definitely die within 3 years
basically any other brand is better for 2TB size
nice power supply, i like that...
Im here xD
@rose ridge, is it when you join/cross a region?
@rose ridge Please follow the steps listed in this message: https://discordapp.com/channels/203512636556574720/551236268004999168/551239621598773249
Yay
Yea and I have no idea what im doing
keep scrolling up for his link
its been coming for a long time
ah ok ๐
editing based on derp
was going to get it last fall
but the car then saving for school
lol
big rips
you can save 70 bucks if you get your windows license on kinguin shrug
holy fuck $2k
legitimacy - i dunno. but they validate perfectly for me and ive never had a problem with them
i think they are volume licenses being sold like retail
can get windows pro that way for $30
Has Moore said he's going to be connecting using Wifi?
dude, I didnt eat anything other than cheap food and put it to my tech fund
I am for now
will need to talk with the people who give me internets
You don't need 3 CPU cooloers
Is it possible to even stack them? lmao
couldnt get rid of it
no you dont need 3, just 1 cooler, but 1 extra fan for it
make sure the fans are 4 pin PWM. it makes a huge difference from the 3 pin old crap
Also, is the 1TB SSD really necessary?
Yea the evo is a classic, everyone loves it; it's even better with noctua fans
I know Moore is trying to "futureproof" his build, but imo it's better to just upgrade as you go
if you do not care about the quality of the SSD, you just want lots of capacity and fast: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LGF54XR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?tag=slickdeals09-20&ascsubtag=e79061ae483f11e992696e29dea6a24e0INT&smid=A29Y8OP2GPR7PE&psc=1
Storage is one of the most easiest things to upgrade, because it doesn't need compatibility with other parts really
Oh there's a promo code: 11ARTQK2
tbh I don't want to fuck around with my data; I'd rather buy from a reputable brand Derp
basically itsl ike $150 for 1TB of the damn fastest nvme
its so cheap now
even from a well known quality brand its cheap
why does everyone act shocked at 1TB for the main disk?
i think 32gb is fine for RAM too
fixed it I think
i mean it's an i9, its obviously a power machine
you really like that case?
seems like the lights are easy to change color
those are just two $10 case fans, easy to get green ones
Ok you don't need a $90 optical drive
the motherboard probably has lights that can be configured
oh optical drive? lol i didnt even see that!
What the hell does a $90 optical drive even give you??
cup holder?
oh wow i meant like - why even have an optical drive at all
It depends; maybe he likes CDs?
guys im computer dumb
i think i have some in a bucket in the garage ...
Oh @narrow escarp well (not to be offensive) but some of this makes a little more sense now ๐
@narrow escarp What games do you like to play? Division 2?
define playing Division II lol
Just want to see how graphically intensive things are gonna get
i just bought one of those cases
ah its the one with the more open top
@blissful sequoia I think we can subsitute some of these parts for better price/performance ones
