#technical-chat

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blissful sequoia
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hes going to record with phone so we can see

sly mortar
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Eh, true.

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Screensharing is so much better though.

blissful sequoia
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ive started leaning on the built-in windows 10 recording software for quick clips and stuff

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a recording would be nice because other people can review it later and they might see something we dont

sly mortar
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Yes, but I have OBS for that.

blissful sequoia
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what is OBS?

tame schooner
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Icanari I will screen share to you

sly mortar
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Alright.

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Setting OBS up.

tame schooner
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yea give me

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wait what is OBS?

sly mortar
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Recording software.

tame schooner
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ok

sly mortar
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Let me see if it will do Discord...

blissful sequoia
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@tame schooner also please try mapping your aim button to a different key, like backspace or something

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can foxhole remap that key?

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id better check.

sly mortar
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Maybe?

blissful sequoia
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yes it can

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poor soviet has a LOT of problems with his game

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a suspicious number of them ...

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voice chat AND aim freezing

tame schooner
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why suspicous

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Icanari recorded aim problem

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now

blissful sequoia
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ooooh clever

sly mortar
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One second while I upload

tame schooner
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and voice chat one I dont care anymore

blissful sequoia
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what if its the same cause tho

tame schooner
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no its not

blissful sequoia
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the odds of having 2 distinct problems is very low

tame schooner
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I was not able to use voice chat whole time

blissful sequoia
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oh.

tame schooner
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and the aim problem occured yesterday

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at 18:00 CET

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why would I lie about issues of my game

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that I bought

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lmao

blissful sequoia
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you probably wouldnt

sly mortar
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Quick Synopsis while the video is dumb: Whenever he clicked right mouse, the aiming line just didn't show up, and he froze.

blissful sequoia
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i didnt say you were a liar

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im just thinking odds of 2 distinct problems is pretty unlikely, but maybe

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hmm

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his character froze?

tame schooner
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whole screen froze

sly mortar
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Whole screen.

tame schooner
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for 3 s

blissful sequoia
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is mouse pointer visible?

tame schooner
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like the game cursor or win cursor?

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game cursor is vibile

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visible

sly mortar
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The game cursor stayed visible.

blissful sequoia
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what it looks liek to me is the right mouse button doesnt work

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and everybody else keeps running around

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where do i look for the freezing

sly mortar
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54 seconds

blissful sequoia
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ty

sly mortar
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Is when it starts

blissful sequoia
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ok i see

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so my theory is that his right mouse button is tied to running some script that causes him instant PC lag

tame schooner
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right mouse button works...

sly mortar
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Hey @tame schooner, could you go to your searchbar on the task bar, and type dxdiag. If a script comes up, could you run it?

blissful sequoia
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my thinking is if he maps the aim key to a different button, then it wont trigger the script, and he wont see freezing

tame schooner
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yes I went on dxdiag yesterday

blissful sequoia
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and if thats true, then track down the program running and kill it. if not, well ... wtf.

sly mortar
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Did you post the dxdiag here?

tame schooner
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nope I have not

blissful sequoia
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is there a CPU/hdd graph we could watch, perfmon perhaps

sly mortar
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Could you send it to me?

tame schooner
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yes

blissful sequoia
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to see if there is a spike across the system, outside of foxhole

tame schooner
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Note: my language is different

sly mortar
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Too bad it isn't Win10 with the graphs in the Task Manager.

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That's fine.

blissful sequoia
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7 had pretty good graphs i thought

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and perfmon was there too i think

sly mortar
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Not that I can remember.

blissful sequoia
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resource monitor is the windows 10 one? hm

sly mortar
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No

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Task Manager

blissful sequoia
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@tame schooner have you tried remapping aim key yet?

tame schooner
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no I have not I will now when I send dxdiag pic

sly mortar
blissful sequoia
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so many cpus

sly mortar
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It's the logical processors.

blissful sequoia
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ive got a server with 2 of the xeon 10 cores

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looks like 40 cpus

sly mortar
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Wow.

blissful sequoia
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in 2 years you will scoff at so few cores

sly mortar
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Longer.

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I'd say 5 years.

blissful sequoia
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theyre already outdated

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1.5TB ram too

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virtualization disabled? are you using hyper-v?

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there was something that made that appear disabled, right? ... something.

sly mortar
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Virtualization is mainly for servers.

blissful sequoia
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

sly mortar
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It might be GPU...

blissful sequoia
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i took all my keys off my keyboard and cleaned it. now i cant which button is actually print screen

sly mortar
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That's his.

blissful sequoia
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uh

sly mortar
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@tame schooner Could you try setting your graphics settings at minimum?

tame schooner
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ok

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I did

sly mortar
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Because that is a... very slow chip.

blissful sequoia
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its not that bad

sly mortar
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๐Ÿ‘€

tame schooner
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But I have not had this problem before

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it always worked fine

blissful sequoia
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i can play this game on low graphic settings with an intel hd5000, and thats a 600 score

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its not great but yea

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i didnt realize it was a laptop, however.

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which always leads me back to power settings

sly mortar
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Yep.

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Are you plugged in?

blissful sequoia
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balanced mode is your enemy with video card stuff, you want to set it into performance mode, 100% on all the power stuff

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and plug in

tame schooner
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yes

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I am

sly mortar
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Are you on full performance mode?

blissful sequoia
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also, did you try the aim key remap? what happened?

tame schooner
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yes

blissful sequoia
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i just want to rule out the mouse button

tame schooner
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Ok I just remembered there was 1 key that lead to this freeze

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3 days ago

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I randomly pressed P and it froze like that

blissful sequoia
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windows key + p?

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hes got video scaling maybe

tame schooner
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now it switched on mouse right button

blissful sequoia
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duplicate monitor output!

tame schooner
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how to do that

sly mortar
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WAIT

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P is the sceenshot button

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Go to settings, make sure that you didn't set RMB as the Foxhole sceenshot button.

blissful sequoia
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windows key + p brings up the projector options

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oooooh

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what if rms is screen shot!

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my aim remap should test that easily

sly mortar
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Doesn't take nearly as much processor as the Foxhole screenshot key.

tame schooner
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OMG

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I WILL FUCKING KMS

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HAHAHAHAHAH

sly mortar
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It was?

tame schooner
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SORRY

sly mortar
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No, it's completely fine.

tame schooner
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LMFAO

sly mortar
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This is what we're here for.

blissful sequoia
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is it?

tame schooner
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yes it is

blissful sequoia
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booyah

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ok the voice trouble?

tame schooner
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thanks

sly mortar
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Yeah, I just thought of that because my PC, with an 8700K, and a 1070 takes like 2 seconds to take one of those.

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which is dumb, but hey

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@tame schooner What have you tried for the Sound Issue?

tame schooner
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I did vivox fix and DNS one but nothing worked

sly mortar
blissful sequoia
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you said it was vivox 8-6 error? if only i could just read into the past what was said...

tame schooner
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Voice chat error [8] 6-0

blissful sequoia
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heh yea i found it

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also this: Derp: so my theory is that his right mouse button is tied to running some script that causes him instant PC lag

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where i was right about the mouse button 16 minutes ago

sly mortar
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Not a script exactly, but close.

blissful sequoia
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i was imagining a macro in his mouse software config

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but screen shot button would have worked in my mind for "script"

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i am proud of my deduction for a saturday night

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this is almost as good as that guy who just had to verify his game files and it fixed everything

tame schooner
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I changed my DNS back

blissful sequoia
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vivox 8 6 0 is only the dns problem, right @sly mortar?

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or networking issues?

sly mortar
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I.. don't remember.

blissful sequoia
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i think its the most common connectivity one, ill check pinned

sly mortar
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Let me go check my little list...

blissful sequoia
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oh thats [8]-6

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but maybe the same error, right? its the DNS pinned message it says that

sly mortar
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Alright, I don't know the second two numbers off my list, but 8 stands for the Push To Talk function.

blissful sequoia
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whaaa?

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its complaining about push to talk on connect?

tame schooner
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yes

sly mortar
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That's what the 8 means.

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In about, 8-12 hours I can have what the second one means probably.

blissful sequoia
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do you happen to know the error code people were commonly having with DNS problems or connectivity?

sly mortar
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Nope

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Because the error codes effectively mean jack shit

blissful sequoia
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im kind of thinking any of the SIP ALG stuff is a red herring due to the encrypted nature of vivox

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has voice chat ever worked for you, @tame schooner?

tame schooner
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nope

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it worked back then in early access

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when game was free

blissful sequoia
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before vivox

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basically vivox has never worked

tame schooner
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I think so

blissful sequoia
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wow.

tame schooner
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I just went in game

blissful sequoia
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i cant believe youve missed out on all the chatter since then

tame schooner
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pressed push to talk

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it worked 1 time

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and does not want to work again

blissful sequoia
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they had to use different servers to handle crossing regions, and they went with a classic SIP protocol for VOIP communication

tame schooner
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its always like that, it works 1 time or just does not work

sly mortar
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No, they used to use a completely different method that was built into the engine.

blissful sequoia
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but lots of people have trouble with it due to the networking

sly mortar
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No...

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Less people had errors...

blissful sequoia
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less??

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wow ok

sly mortar
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Yeah.

blissful sequoia
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people hate it more tho. why?

sly mortar
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Before Vivox I hadn't done a voice error in... 6 months, and that was just the guy didn't do his mic right.

blissful sequoia
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its such better quality than the one they had before

sly mortar
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That's why they switched.

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However, it is also buggy as hell.

blissful sequoia
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because his has never worked, i think its possibly the mic or sound setup

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i think voicemeeter solves his problem, yet again

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dunno if it will work great on a laptop, what do you think?

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@tame schooner a 3rd party and free program voicemeeter makes a virtual audio cable that can be redirected; it has solved the vivox problem for several people here

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frankly, its helped so many people for the vivox issues it might just be worth having a pinned message about it @sly mortar

sly mortar
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I'll write one.. soonโ„ข

blissful sequoia
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lol

sly mortar
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Need to sleep rn.

blissful sequoia
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totally

sly mortar
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But yeah, it'll work perfectly fine on a laptop.

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It uses effectively no resources.

blissful sequoia
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he should try that, seems like most people have been able to rig it up without any/much help

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maybe you were DMing them in the background tho, i dunno

sly mortar
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I wasn't.

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It's pretty easy.

blissful sequoia
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im guessing that would solve his voice chat problems then

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thanks for helping record that Icanari

sly mortar
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It's 1am... and the time change is about to happen...

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So uh.. fuck me.

tame schooner
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I will try that after I eat

blissful sequoia
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oh god time change, i forgot.

sly mortar
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YEAH

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Fucking US.

blissful sequoia
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prop 7 baby! this might be the year it changes

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death to standard time!!

sly mortar
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I mean, I actually kind of like it... but.

blissful sequoia
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then you can get up an hour earlier

sly mortar
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On every other day except today.

blissful sequoia
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this is the last year, the last time i change my clocks for DST

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im staying on DST after tonight

sly mortar
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Mine do it automatically.

blissful sequoia
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im going to root my phone and fix it then

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80% of my clocks need manual adjustment

sly mortar
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Get better clocks.

blissful sequoia
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its not even about the clocks really; its like the second highest rate of heart attacks or something after christmas

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or maybe its the #1

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high rate of car accidents, for what! so i can wake up grumpy

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its amazing this game can run on a video card that scores 600 on passmark

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starcraft 2 came out like 10 years ago and would literally kidney punch my video card to this day

tame schooner
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do I download voicemeeter

blissful sequoia
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yes i think

tame schooner
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or virtual cable

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virtual audio cable

blissful sequoia
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oh uhh ... probably voicemeeter

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its probably easier to configure with the whole software package

tame schooner
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VB-CABLE is a virtual audio device working as virtual audio cable. All signals coming in the CABLE input is going to the CABLE output. Then It becomes simple to make computer audio recording or to connect a player application to a recorder one.

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this is for virtual audio cable

blissful sequoia
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yea the voicemeeter software uses vb-cable, its like a front-end interface for it all I think

sly mortar
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Voicemeeter

tame schooner
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Voicemeeter is Audio Mixer Application endowed with Virtual Audio Device used as Virtual I/O to mix and manage any audio sources from or to any audio devices or applications.

sly mortar
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Voicemeeter @tame schooner

blissful sequoia
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so youd redirect your mic into a vb-cable, and then set foxhole to voice communicate over the vb-cable mic [citation needed]

tame schooner
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ok

sly mortar
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@blissful sequoia Nope. It can be done completely through Voicemeeter, as it brings its own connections with it.

blissful sequoia
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im always shocked when it works, but it does lol

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oh ok

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well im going to bed too before DST, gnight, good luck

terse flume
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So uh, yeah. I can't install the game for some reason. I uninstalled it earlier and now I can't install it back after having some trouble getting the devbranch to work.
In the download menu on Steam, it says Paused CONTENT FILE LOCKED.
The file in question is (apparently) Steam\steamapps\common/Foxhole\War\Binaries\Win64\War-Win64-Shipping.exe
I have already tried verifying integrity of game files, to no avail. Running steam in Administrator mode doesn't seem to help either.

inner basin
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I think this has to do with permissions

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Also @blissful sequoia @sly mortar it was just his RMB being screenshot key? kms

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holy shit that's the last thing I'd think of

blissful sequoia
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its the first thing i thought of

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i had window's new image program running in the background once, and it started indexing and thumbnailing a huge directory and the game started stuttering

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and i sort of realized this game is more sensitive to a cpu spike or hard drive use than i would have expected

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@tame schooner did you get soundmeeter figured out?

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it sounds like it was going to fix his audio/voice problem if configured completely

tame schooner
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I have not

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I know it works

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voice chat works in game with voicemeeter

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just I cant set up output and input devices

blissful sequoia
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@tame schooner and was the windows sound control panel already set to your headset for the default playback device? I assume that is the right setup

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or maybe it needs to be set to voicemeeter, but either way i think th ats the solution to fixing game sound

sly mortar
blissful sequoia
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you get what you pay for

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hes stuck at voice working but regular game sounds not after voicemeeter install

tall pendant
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is it possible to assign 'no-key' in keyboard options?

remote sluice
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Hello, been looking at foxhole, but how resource heavy is pc wise?

inner basin
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@remote sluice I can run Foxhole on low settings and at like 15% resolution scale at 60 fps ๐Ÿ‘Œ using Intel graphics, which are crappy

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Not very graphically heavy, on my other PC I have a GTX 950 (kind of old and underpowered) and it can run max settings at avg. 35-45 fps

austere mountain
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I play on a laptop

fervent nymph
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can't seem to log in right now, anyone else having issues?

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bah, still a no go

inner basin
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@fervent nymph errr, restart Steam?

fervent nymph
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i tried that, twice

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oh well tho, playin somethin else with my brother, i'll try tomorrow

sly mortar
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@fervent nymph Try the above link.

fervent nymph
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Rebooting my PC did it

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or the fact that the war ended...

serene hare
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The game is very CPU intensive due to the fact they use blueprints instead of C++

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Still runs better than most games, but could easily be ported to mobile if it was pure C++

blissful sequoia
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you are high.

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just what part of mobile do you think runs on C++ lol

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well crew, are we excited for the next patch? did anyone here play it?

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from a technical perspective i mean. i didnt see any particular engine breaking changes or network code stuffs

inner basin
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wut?

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It's out tomorrow chief @blissful sequoia

blissful sequoia
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well i meant the dev branch i guess

terse flume
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"Content File Locked" problem is still yet to be solved.

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Can't install the game because of it. If I had to gander a guess, I'd assume it might have to do with faction locking or something?

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To avoid people swapping factions by reinstalling the game or something?

sly mortar
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Wait, do you even have the game installed at all?

terse flume
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No, I uninstalled it, and now I can't install it.

sly mortar
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Uh.. re-install steam?

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That's all I can think of.

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That's 99% Steam's fault, not Foxhole's.

terse flume
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Not an issue with any other game.

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It even says which file it's "locking".

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"Steam\steamapps\common/Foxhole\War\Binaries\Win64\War-Win64-Shipping.exe"

inner basin
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It might have to do with permissions... but I don't know much about those

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Did you restart your computer?

molten summit
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Hit it

small bridge
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Hello. I'm coming back to play after ~12 months. Made no changes to my PC, but after updating game it's now unplayable due to walking stutter lag. Any ideas? I was playing on high detail previously and I've moved this down to low. Firing, punching, and watching other people run around looks to have no stutter / lag.

serene hare
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@blissful sequoia are you a mongoloid? The game is MOSTLY programmed using blueprints. Which uses an INTERPRETER. The code for the game is INTERPRETED at runtime, not compiled incurring uneccessary CPU overhead. C++ on the otherhand is a compiled langauge. And if you haven't noticed the amount of TFLOPS being put out bat the latest gen Snapdragon and Bionic chips it could easily be achievable. Again the problem is the interpreted langauges.

blissful sequoia
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im not sure what you mean by blueprints

serene hare
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Do you have any idea how UE4 or code even works?

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UE4 has a visual programming language called Blueprints

blissful sequoia
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yea i know my way around some code

serene hare
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Using a modified python interpreter

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If you don't know much about the UE4 engine or code in general don't respond with half ass comments then. plzkthx

blissful sequoia
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im not familiar with UE4, but i am with unity, so swap c# for python, it makes little difference

serene hare
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So then what the hell was the point of your comment?

blissful sequoia
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and mobile is pretty heavily in objective C or java. python is more mobile friendly than c++

serene hare
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Friendly does not mean performant.

blissful sequoia
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cant UE4 games be compiled for ios and android binaries, anyway?

serene hare
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Yes, but the interpreter is compiled into the binary blob along with the blueprints.

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The code isn't transpiled into C++, and then compiled.

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That's impossible

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But they've been trying to achieve that with a beta tool. Still unstable.

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Again what the hell was the point of your comment?

blissful sequoia
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thats going to make little difference in performance, c++ is not a holy grail

serene hare
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Blueprints perform at 1/10th the performance of native C++

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If your code does updates on every single frame

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guess what happens

blissful sequoia
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then that 1% of the code gets 10x slower

wide orbit
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Hey fellas, mind moving this to code talk please? Want to keep this channel open for those needing technical support.

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Thanks : )

sweet kestrel
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is the server down?

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i try to join the skirmish and it goes back to join war screen

tall pendant
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Is it possible to assign 'no-key' in keyboard options?

serene hare
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I've been looking for the config file so I can append multi key shortcuts

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Lemme see if I can find it

indigo plank
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Question.

limber isle
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Is there a way to have a private or pw protected server to do some clan training?

blissful sequoia
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yea i think youre supposed to ask KrazyFlyinChicken for that, @limber isle

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@serene hare config is in %appdata%\..\local\Foxhole\ for windows

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oh maybe its not actually, maybe its just in the steam directory

inner basin
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Config is there, you're correct @blissful sequoia

terse flume
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h

blissful sequoia
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so this patch rolled out smoothly in terms of tech problems

inner basin
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lol

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so I've heard

blissful sequoia
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yea? is that what everyone's been saying to you? smooth rollout?

inner basin
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more like "omg bias!!" or "halp we're being steamrolled"

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Although I haven't played in the war yet

blissful sequoia
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lol

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im shocked there arent more noobs in here with troubles related to vivox or whatever else

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just because of the sale

hybrid fjord
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I'm getting the "unable to download shard info []" error. I've rebooted, disabled my firewall completely, added specific firewall settings for port 443, verified my lifes, restarted steam, etc, etc.

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I can edit my profile just fine though

blissful sequoia
hybrid fjord
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{
"title": "test",
"test1": false
}

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which I imagine is a bad sign lol

blissful sequoia
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not bad

hybrid fjord
blissful sequoia
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has it ever worked for you before?

hybrid fjord
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I just bought it

blissful sequoia
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hrm

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I cannot think of anything. Someone else here may have ideas; it may be worth filing in the bugreport if youre committed for the long-term

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maybe there is something buried deep in the pinned messages...

hybrid fjord
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I'll take a look and keep trying, if I can't figure it out in the next few hours I'll submit a bug report

blissful sequoia
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you just have an ordinary household router?

hybrid fjord
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no I'm using a hotspot and I'm thinking that is the issue

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I'm about to switch connections and see if that helps

blissful sequoia
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yea thats great if you can test

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those hotspots get intercepted sometimes for a web login

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doesnt interrupt random protocols, but that shard info is http/https they like to manipulate...

hybrid fjord
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doesn't look like it makes any difference

stray jewel
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Just got the game a few hours ago and have been having the same issue, went through the same fixes and got the same result from that test

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Kinda out of ideas so came here to see if I'm missing anything

blissful sequoia
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are you also on a hotspot, pandemic?

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or household router?

stray jewel
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On a router running off of university ethernet

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Figured that might be blocking the port but it appears to be open

blissful sequoia
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so not total control of game ports and stuff maybe

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hopefully the same thing

hybrid fjord
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yup

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looks like a port issue

blissful sequoia
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this patch just game out today, so it could also be a new problem

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you already searched the hell out of this huh duke?

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i feel like im just following in your footsteps a few paces

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so possibly antivirus or firewall

hybrid fjord
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already disabled

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I think I have a solution, testing it now

blissful sequoia
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did it work?

stray jewel
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I would love to know as well

hybrid fjord
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sadly no but it is for sure a port forwarding issue

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my device isn't rooted, so I can't edit my iptables

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@stray jewel did you check to see if your port is open?

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is what I used

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I can forward ports over 1024 lol

stray jewel
#

Yeah, does seem to be closed, will have to fiddle with router see if I can get it open

vale aurora
#

Router: "YOU. SHALL NOT. PASS" Sorry. Had to. Carry on.

hybrid fjord
#

well there is this thing called ngrok

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it's kinda like tunneling mixed with a VPN

#

anyway getting the game to look for the URL ngrok provides and not your device IP address is a chore and it's time for me to go to bed

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thanks for the help though

blissful sequoia
#

how do you know its a port issue? its all outgoing stuff, it shouldnt require any forwards

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i think its worth a bug report - 2 people with the same problem new to the game; I think the devs would like to know about this

trail igloo
#

Hi, i'm new to the game downloaded it and keep getting a message that my version is outdated, plus as soon as I try to leave home base to travel it crashes

gusty jasper
#

@trail igloo Hi. When you launch the game what is the version number in the bottom right corner of the screen?

dim salmon
#

Does anyone know how to lock the cursor inside windowed game? That's pretty annoying and risky to shut down game. Nothing found in the Internet.

dark minnow
#

windowed fullscreen mode

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@dim salmon

sterile hornet
#

Ok so this has been going on for a while so my game I canโ€™t hear any one speek what so ever I can hear gun fire and every thing itโ€™s just voice chat they can hear me but I canโ€™t hear them

gusty jasper
#

@sterile hornet Hey, try following these steps and see if they work

trim nacelle
#

What is the process for foxhole called? Steam thinks its running when to my eyes it isnt. I cant find its process to force close it.

blissful sequoia
#

war, war64, war-shipping i think

dim salmon
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@dark minnow will try

trim nacelle
#

Hooyah thanks

trim nacelle
#

Does this game support Modding? Id really like to revamp the inventory system.

terse flume
#

No modding supported

astral lance
#

i can't hear voice chat

dim salmon
blissful sequoia
#

we are pretty good at fixing the voice chat

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if the pinned messages dont solve your problems...

astral lance
#

for some reason i can't disable SIP ALG on my huawei router

astral lance
#

i will never get this thing to work properly

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<@&521124241395941396> any help?

royal prairie
#

the SIP ALG setting is usually found in the security menu

astral lance
#

yeah i found it but i can't disable it

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i think this is a problem related to my router

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well i guess no voice chat for me

royal prairie
#

do you know the model name of the router?

astral lance
#

huawei HG8247H

wet cave
#

I've gotten a new Dell computer with an i7 processor and tried running foxhole. My computer, seems to make running foxhole worse. Settings worse than the low on my former laptop not even working. Please dear god help.

astral lance
#

@royal prairie so i guess you found nothing, that's ok man it's probably fault of my retarded chinese router i even tried disabling it using telnet but that didn't work too

royal prairie
#

yeah, normally u can this disable i dont know your problem sry

astral lance
#

no problem man

craggy ridge
#

Hi guys, I just bought the game. I'm also getting the ''unable to download shard info []'' error. Port 443 is open and my firewall disabled. I've tried just about anything I could find.

vale aurora
#

<@&521124241395941396> ^

blissful sequoia
#

has anyone filed a bug report yet?

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3 people with the same problem...

sly mortar
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Which problem?

blissful sequoia
#

like that time they had somethign related to hyper-v that caused a similar issue

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the unable to download shard info []

sly mortar
#

Way more than 3 people have had that.

blissful sequoia
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3 competent people with the same problem, i think theyre all new

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hard to tell if its related to the latest patch or not

sly mortar
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Nope

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It's been happening since... 2 updates before Vivox.

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I'd suggest DMing KFC about it, with all related info.

blissful sequoia
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other people found fixes with their firewalls, but not the latest 3

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(or antivirus?)

topaz kettle
#

How do I prevent my game from forgetting all options I applied evertime I restart it?
Right atleast the last 10+ times I started the game I have to turn click away the tutorial messages, turn off chat click-sound, adjust soundlevels and so on.

dark minnow
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@topaz kettle may not relate to this game but in other games i have this issue id setup my settings the way i want them. then close the game correctly using the menu game to quit. if using windowed or taskmanager to close the gam,e down it can be considered a crash wiping the info.

cursive stream
cinder yarrow
chrome urchin
slim girder
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Did you check what shard your using

chrome urchin
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He is on the live build, he has issues traveling from the tent

frank zealot
#

I think he's on fisherman's now

slim girder
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๐Ÿค”

silver matrix
cinder yarrow
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I tryed to travel 6th time and it worked.

chrome urchin
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oh alright! good

frank zealot
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It sometimes caused by bad internet connection, generally if you're using wifi or something in the background that eats up some internet usage

silver matrix
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@cinder yarrow the problem is can be your internet problem or maybe your computer is bad

cinder yarrow
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I have 100mb wire

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I play on low graphics 60 fps

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when i see grass it drops to 25

silver matrix
#

I have same problems too because of my computer

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

blissful sequoia
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you can lower resolution scale and get more performance

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its a slider bar in the graphics settings

knotty flume
#

For some reason I cant hear other players chat. Can see dialogue box, but cant hear anything

blissful sequoia
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check the pinned messages about voice chat

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we have solutions for voice chat problems

kind ore
#

Hey can anyone help me I can see the operations on my map and cant join any?

blissful sequoia
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you are certain there is an operation on your map?

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maybe there just arent any

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can you confirm anyone else can see any?

kind ore
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they can my friend can see them

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I just cant

plucky patio
#

Right, so I followed both the DNS and Vivox - Verify - Restart fixes, and I still cannot hear anyone over voice.

#

I see the icons, all other in game sound works - and nothing.

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SIP ALG seems to be enabled <@&521124241395941396>

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UDP True - TCP Failed

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Timed out for later.

plucky bluff
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the error is [6-0]?

plucky patio
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[6-0]? I do not see an error code of that format.

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Just could not perform SIP TCP Test.

terse flume
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nevermind that i was mistaking that for something else from earlier

plucky patio
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Disabled UDP, TCP still fails.

terse flume
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you need udp on

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SIP ALG messes with VoIP

plucky patio
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UDP SIP ALG was on before.

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Wasn't working.

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Just turned it off.

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Turning it back on I guess since that did nothing.

terse flume
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i wasnt here when the origional problem was raised

#

what exactly is happening?

plucky patio
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This is my first time posting anything here.

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Not a continuation of anything - just went through the FAQ before pinging heh.

terse flume
#

well i assume youre having troubles with ingame voice or VoIP

plucky patio
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Yes.

#
Right, so I followed both the DNS and Vivox - Verify - Restart fixes, and I still cannot hear anyone over voice.
terse flume
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usually if its a problem with VoIP it would be SIP ALG thats causing interferences with that but if youve disabled it and it still hasnt come back on, you could try setting the port that the VoIP for foxhole as open and setting it to udp/tcp

plucky patio
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What port is that?

terse flume
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now personally i dont know port that is Exactly

plucky patio
#

Ooof.

terse flume
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so hopefully someone else knows that one

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but i could also say updating your router firmware and even your Pcs ethernet drivers, but im doubtful that would make a massive difference since thats rarely needed

plucky patio
#

I've already done that for another thing ja.

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Forwarded 5060 since that's what the test seems to use.

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Testing now.

terse flume
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yeah i was going to say the standard port for VoIP is 5060

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foxhole mostlikely uses that

plucky patio
#

Doesn't seem to have worked.

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Yeah, nope.

#

This is the first game I've ever played which has failed this hard on VOIP heh.

#

Anything else I can do?

plucky patio
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<@&521124241395941396>

plucky bluff
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he said he did

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if the error in game is 6-0

high olive
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Lets go with the classic

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reinstall

plucky bluff
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then tbh u just gonna need to do the link point till it works

high olive
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and blow in every port of the computer

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trust me it will work

plucky patio
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I actually did that.

high olive
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oh

plucky patio
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Reinstalled.

sly mortar
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Did you try the link I sent?

plucky patio
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Yep.

high olive
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Im all out of ideas then

sly mortar
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Mhm.

plucky patio
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Was the first thing.

sly mortar
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Tried changing DNS?

plucky patio
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Yep.

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8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4

sly mortar
#

What error are you getting in-game?

plucky patio
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There is no error message. It says it connects to voice successfully and I see icons above people's heads - but no audio.

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And yes volumes are turned up.

sly mortar
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Have you made sure the voice settings are correct?

high olive
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I saw those errors in the other games

sly mortar
#

Like, which items it outputs to?

plucky patio
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There's only one option for input and output.

high olive
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Is everything up to date

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on your computer?

plucky patio
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Yep.

sly mortar
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Alright. Go to windows sounds, and make sure those settings are correct.

high olive
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All Windows Updates

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you sure?

plucky patio
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They are the same as my Source games.

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Yes.

high olive
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k

plucky patio
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Because my computer was out for an update when I was trying to get commissions done earlier ๐Ÿ˜„

sly mortar
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Try reverting the update.

high olive
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I asked you because on other games the voice chats did not show up

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and after the updates

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everything was good

plucky patio
#

Other games work fine before and after.

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I just got Foxhole yesterday.

sly mortar
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Foxhole is strange.

high olive
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Indeed it is

sly mortar
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Especially because Vivox is shit.

plucky patio
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SSDs make the restart / reinstall process much faster. Reinstalling now.

sly mortar
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Make sure to delete those files before reinstalling.

plucky patio
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I already did.

high olive
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In the worst case You will buy a new computer ๐Ÿ˜„

sly mortar
plucky patio
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Lol. Just fix your VOIP plugin.

plucky bluff
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if only

sly mortar
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so I've been telling them since they implemented it.

plucky patio
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The game itself runs fine on max settings - so I don't see a reason VOIP should be this annoying.

sly mortar
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It's not part of the game.

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It's run by Vivox.

plucky bluff
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the voip is a 3rd party

sly mortar
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And just peripherally implemented.

plucky bluff
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we can't do shit except reinstalling it

sly mortar
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^

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Devs can't do much more.

plucky bluff
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and begging devs to fix their shit

plucky patio
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Nope.

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Blimerycrite.exe

blissful sequoia
#

uhh

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will voicemeeter fix his stuff if its not network trouble/

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i cant remember when we decide voicemeeter is the answer

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its when the networking is not a problem, but vivox cant use the mic for whatever reason

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and at least 1 person had to use a VPN to connect to vivox

sly mortar
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@blissful sequoia It's when literally nothing else works.

blissful sequoia
#

the worst scenario is when the network is severed, because we cant do anything about it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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but the DNS + voicemeeter seem to fix every other voice problem

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honestly - i dont get it - every big PC game in the world seems to be using vivox, i wonder if those players are equally unable to connect

blissful sequoia
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I was digging around the other day, I think mt1p-mim-f5.vivox.com might be the dns of the vivox server I connect to

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suppose we had the actual dns, or we at least know the IP address, what's a good SIP test for udp+ssl?

sly mortar
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We shouldn't need one.

blissful sequoia
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something we could ask people to try to see if they can connect to the specific vivox servers - or perhaps the devs would share this info with us

sly mortar
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Vivox doesn't use those as far as I know.

blissful sequoia
#

we can easily test the user's DNS, determine its working correctly

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but some way to test if the simple vivox ports are reachable; to determine if its network related or game related

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asking people to use a vpn is too much for a test

desert atlas
#

hello people i have a question

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so my pcs requirments are : Geforce 710M 1gb; 4 gb ram ; intel core i3 2.33 ghz

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can it run ?

sly mortar
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@desert atlas Probably. I would try it, and if it doesn't, refund it within the 2 hours.

desert atlas
#

like my laptop turned itself off 2 times

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maybe cuz of operating system i dont know

#

no problems about the frame drops tho

sly mortar
#

Is the laptop plugged in?

#

What operating system is it?

desert atlas
#

windows 10

#

same thing happens on discord games

#

maybe while i have discord on that happens

digital willow
#

hello all i need a little bit of help

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when i go to join the war she pops up saying No Home Region Found

proud dagger
#

@digital willow rtry checking the pinned messages

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and see if those solutions will help

digital willow
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shall do

dim salmon
#

@digital willow try to refresh

digital willow
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ holy fuck drop my firewall and play around with drivers

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as in restart the computer?

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Drivers are easy but turning off firewall dunno how i fell about that

#

feel*

proud dagger
#

u don't have to turn it off

dim salmon
#

There's refresh button when you click join war/browse events

proud dagger
#

u can also just check and make sure the firewall allows foxhole

digital willow
#

ohh yer i have been trying that easy time

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but to no succes

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success

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i'll have a look to see if its allowed

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yer @proud dagger Foxholes ticked

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so its allowed

proud dagger
#

restart PC

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or restart steam

#

andd verify foxhole cache just as another measure

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and try

digital willow
#

also now coming to say failed to download shared info when refreshed

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alright restarting

#

No luck

#

Still dosen't work thanks tho for trying to help

woeful remnant
#

Game is black screen

proud dagger
#

@woeful remnant it most likely is loading

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if not working

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restart steam

woeful remnant
#

yeah just fixed

proud dagger
#

neato

woeful remnant
#

My pc just needed a punchin

proud dagger
#

kek

blissful sequoia
#

@sly mortar you said somebody already filed a bug report about the shards months ago? Do we have any sense of what the cause is? Is it routing?

sly mortar
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@blissful sequoia nope. We have literally nothing.

blissful sequoia
#

so i can think outside the box then...

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like what if its not related to networking, what if it happens in the network init code, then the exception bubbles down and just reports cant find shard

#

nah... probably not

#

it's actually ridiculous it cant give more error info than that, when someone filed the bug they should have spit out more debug info

#

i think the 4 people who have come in here to seek help represent a lot more people who just uninstalled instead

gentle canopy
#

So when I move around there is a slight stutter every half second or so, and doesn't change with any graphics settings. Is there a known fix for this?

fickle plinth
#

I have problems with the mic i cant hear and speak to nobody,my mic is good im speaking with a friend at discord while gameing can someone hlep me casue this kill the game

If you know how to fix is pls dm me,THX

blissful sequoia
#

@gentle canopy do you have any other programs running in the background? could be that

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@fickle plinth please check out the pinned tabs here. Check your voice settings in Foxhole also to set the voice devices

fallen timber
#

@narrow escarp Call the one that is shafting you. Complaining really works as long as your respectful about it. Worst case nothing happens, best case is better speeds.
@molten summit i'd imagine but i personally don't know what internet companies in other areas do, so I wont speak as if I do.

molten summit
#

Fair enooough

narrow escarp
#

@fallen timber could be my pc too

#

here is the DX thing

fallen timber
#

You're on desktop yeah? Do you know why NIC card you got?

narrow escarp
#

No idea what any of that means

#

I got my computer because it glowed red

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and was not a white old school pc

blissful sequoia
#

icanari is probably the power buyer here

#

i do servers and quiet PCs

amber kite
#

moore

#

go to logical increments

#

and use it as a baseline

blissful sequoia
#

do you like AMD?

amber kite
blissful sequoia
#

lol that chart looks pretty damn accurate

#

maybe by like american standards

#

hardware so cheap here

amber kite
#

its like 100 usd dollar difference here

#

in the balkans

#

compared to us prices

narrow escarp
#

I am worried about it since I never heard of it

#

can anyone else vouch too?

fallen timber
#

Lol, that chart is outdated on ram prices.

narrow escarp
#

Old Man Yells at Cloud

amber kite
#

its just a baseline

blissful sequoia
#

yea ram is about 20% more

fallen timber
#

Ram is so inflated rn in price. Good thing I got 32gb years back.
Yeah, it seems solid.

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@narrow escarp Are you plan on upgrading your new comp or starting from scratch?

blissful sequoia
#

psh you think ram is inflated, try buying 64GB chips

narrow escarp
#

New

fallen timber
#

Is your current case too small?

amber kite
#

using cases omegelul

#

if you dont ahve your pc in a shoebox all cobbled together youre doign it wrong

blissful sequoia
#

lol

amber kite
#

thats how i had my pc setup for a year

#

my budget was tight as hell

blissful sequoia
#

probably start with motherboard, it may inform your case size

#

micro vs full atx

#

single video card, probably a gaming board? youve got to decide amd or intel

amber kite
#

prolly gonna be an atx

blissful sequoia
#

dunno why you need all those pci slots for just 1 video card...

amber kite
#

like no pcs use micro atx except niche small ones

blissful sequoia
#

im not talking mini-itx

#

its just a regular mobo with 3 pci slots

#

instead of 5? or 6? for full atx

fallen timber
#

A normal mobo with ddr4 support and LGI 1151 for intel cpu is pretty good for a starting point

blissful sequoia
#

but the new 1151 lol, not the old one

fallen timber
#

of course

blissful sequoia
#

hahaah screw you, intel!

#

its not even like 1151-b

#

its like 1151 (this one isnt compatible with your stuff)

amber kite
#

tbh i would go for amd

#

just so i dont have to shelf out like 50 usd extra for the brand name

#

to get % more performance

#

3%*

blissful sequoia
#

if money were no object/limitation, then intel

amber kite
#

also cpus are kinda at their limit for gaming nowdays anyways

#

like if youre doing any editing shit go for intel

#

but just for gaming hh

#

ehhh

blissful sequoia
#

agreed

#

although you cannot get any workstation-grade motherboards for AMD

#

its all just consumer/desktop or server

amber kite
#

yeah but he aint buying a workstation :x

fallen timber
#

@narrow escarp Anyway, unless you're PC is from the 90s try hooking an ethernet cable into it and then see the speeds. It may drastically go up and problems may be solved. If not, check what speeds you're supposed to be getting from your internet deal. If it's below, call them up and state you're getting slow speeds. It really does work.
Probably the easiest solution for fixing your internet problem rn.

blissful sequoia
#

well, say for example you want a gaming machine with ECC RAM, cause you believe in that, its not an option in the AMD world

#

actually it might be...

amber kite
#

yeah but whats the point of ecc

#

in a personal computer for gaming and stuff

#

he aitn making something thats gonna run 24/7 for 10 years

blissful sequoia
#

i dunno, is it too ridiculous to think it might help reduce blue screens of death?

#

the random once a year one

#

my desktop uptime right now is like ... i dunno 30 days

amber kite
#

nerd

#

mines 4 months cca lmao

blissful sequoia
#

well it just never crashes

amber kite
#

my psu is faulty

#

it dosent give enough of a charge to start my pc sometimes

blissful sequoia
#

and i figured out how to shut off windows updates...

amber kite
#

so i just keep it on

#

also my bsods were mostly from drivers fucking up

blissful sequoia
#

maybe its just so you can say you have ECC

amber kite
#

you know the clasis system service exception as well

blissful sequoia
#

didnt those mac trash can towers use ECC?

amber kite
#

might aswell get 4 fans

#

1 for cpu

blissful sequoia
#

dont go nuts with case fans ...

amber kite
#

3 to look cool and to "improve" airflow iny our case

#

lmao

#

like my friend

#

are case fans even needed

blissful sequoia
#

no, get noctua fans, they dont look cool

#

but they are awesome

amber kite
#

i dont see the point of them tho

blissful sequoia
#

quiet

amber kite
#

wat

blissful sequoia
#

e.g. quieter than any water cooling system

amber kite
#

i literraly slapped a coolermaster heatsink on my pc

#

and the only time i hear it is when my keyboard falls off so i have to pick it up so my head is right next to it

blissful sequoia
#

i cant even tell when my computer is on

#

and its an open case...

amber kite
#

mine is aswell

#

(mostly because i lost a side panel and idk where it is)

blissful sequoia
#

whatd you do about the video card?

#

if you have a stock fan then we are not talking about the same level of quiet

amber kite
#

tbh i dont hear my video card fan

blissful sequoia
#

haha!

amber kite
#

got used to its constant buzing i think

blissful sequoia
#

the video card fan was teh loudest fan of all

amber kite
#

so my brain just ignored it

blissful sequoia
#

constant buzzing? do you have a nvidia 9xx?

amber kite
#

nah

#

its noz buzzing

#

its that uhh

#

stock cooler amd fan

#

that tries to spin to infinite adn beyond

#

sound

#

atleast i think it was that sound

polar iron
#

why did you change the spawn time. it now takes a minute and a half to spawn after death

amber kite
#

as i said my brain drowned it out pretty much

blissful sequoia
#

yea so, id say 3 parts to make your computer quiet and cool:

  1. gold+ rated power supply with quiet fans, like seasonic stuff
  2. largest possible CPU fans (140mm idea, 120mm is standard) with 4pin PWM connectors, noctua is such a good brand
  3. aftermarket GPU fan
#

its about ... $100 extra but you dont have to water cool and its ridiculously quiet with good temps

amber kite
#

i mean if hes gonna get a graphics card

blissful sequoia
amber kite
#

hes prolly gonna get one from msi or the other guys

blissful sequoia
#

but removing the fan and replacing it might take a little more skill than a complete novice

amber kite
#

dont they add custom collers?

blissful sequoia
#

yea they all suck...

#

they put on the smallest cheapest fans they can buy (on pretty nice heat sinks)

amber kite
#

we should prolly ask moore if he even cares about the sound

blissful sequoia
#

the blowers are the worst, because the cards get worse performance and run hotter

#

everyone should care about the sound!

amber kite
#

no

#

i know a dude who basicly build his pc into his drawer

#

all stock coolers

blissful sequoia
#

oh god.

amber kite
#

bassicly you dont hear anything

#

and somehow it dosent overheat

#

he got lower temps than i do ...

#

o geez

#

i forgot ho to use cpu -z

#

to show temps

blissful sequoia
#

constant buzz oh man.

#

i remember those days

amber kite
#

tbh i should upgrade my pc

blissful sequoia
#

my overhead LED lights are louder than my computer now

amber kite
#

i dont think a fx 8350 and a gtx 1050 ti will hold me much longer anyways

#

and ddr3 ram

blissful sequoia
#

meh

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its really the m.2/nvme that is the biggest upgrade since those parts

amber kite
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like the ram is my main concern

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altrough i dont have any problems rn

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its nagging my soul that i dint upgrade anything for 6 years now

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actually wait no

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2 years

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or 3

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got the 1050 ti

narrow escarp
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@amber kite @blissful sequoia my pc crashed during this conversation

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It knows....

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Im in Danger

amber kite
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no shit dude

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the bots are onto us

blissful sequoia
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i hope thats not how it works, i look at computer parts all day

narrow escarp
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I'm going on part picker now

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ill click on things

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and link it

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here

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Ill also use complete sentences. I have no idea what kind of text vomit that just was on your screen.

amber kite
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if i see you picked a cpu with the wrong sockets ill ree

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optical drive

faint vine
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Strong PC. Good for hax.

amber kite
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confused sccreaming

narrow escarp
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Im much more confused then anyone

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Im literally throwing money at it

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and dont want to think about pcs for another 3 - 5 years

amber kite
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why go for crossfire

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you ever tried to setup crossfire before?

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(its a bit cancer imo)

narrow escarp
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In-game lol

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It sounded cool

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I have zero idea what im doing

amber kite
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scratch crossfire then

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get a nvdia card

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slap it in

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andbe done with it

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32 gb of ram is overkill jesus christ dude

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1x16gb sticks is enough

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@narrow escarp you werent kidding about shut up and take my money huh your cpu costs more than my whole current setup

narrow escarp
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Yea,

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Im done with the crap top

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saved the money to blow it on something nice

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It was either this or rebuild the deck and redo the frontyard

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then I realized I own house flipper so fuck that shit

amber kite
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1 TB?????

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of SSD?

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what

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my inner budget is screaming rn

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you pretty much went a bit overboard imo

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like i dont imagine you ever needing more than 16 gb of ram

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if youre nto doing editing or super heavy load stuff

narrow escarp
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Neither do I am building for the I never have to build again scenario

night estuary
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hey guys, I wondered why the CTRL+LMB shortcut doesn't work for me?

amber kite
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thats the split stack one

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you have to have a stack

night estuary
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I mean on the map sorry

amber kite
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uh

daring pewter
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What

night estuary
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only bind I changed is middle mouse to thumb mouse button

daring pewter
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What do you do with ctrl lmb on the map

night estuary
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region map, A1K1

daring pewter
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Oh

night estuary
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shoudl paste the coords in the chat right?

daring pewter
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Yeah

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Try reseting binds

night estuary
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ok nvm

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just did that

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I redo that bind and try again

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ok now it works

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strange but thanks

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I guess I had something on CTRL then

rose ridge
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its the server on?

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Lost connection to server...

blissful sequoia
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@narrow escarp thats the wrong kind of SSD

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you want m.2 nvme

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it looks like a long chip, not a small card box

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"m.2 22xx"

narrow escarp
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@blissful sequoia thanks, hows the rest of it look other than overkill

blissful sequoia
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make sure it says nvme, not ssd

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its like 2-10x faster than SSD

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the case looks way too expensive for what it is

rose ridge
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Guys, i have a problem with connecting to server. "Lost connection to server. Please try again. You know how to fix that?

blissful sequoia
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dont buy 3 cpu coolers, by the way, but you may want 1 extra 120mm 4 pin pwm fan for it, seagate 2TB drive is BAD

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seagate 2TB drive will definitely die within 3 years

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basically any other brand is better for 2TB size

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nice power supply, i like that...

rose ridge
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Im here xD

blissful sequoia
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@rose ridge, is it when you join/cross a region?

inner basin
rose ridge
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Yay

inner basin
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@narrow escarp You buying a PC or something?

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Can I see?

narrow escarp
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Yea and I have no idea what im doing

blissful sequoia
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keep scrolling up for his link

narrow escarp
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its been coming for a long time

inner basin
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ah ok ๐Ÿ‘Œ

narrow escarp
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editing based on derp

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was going to get it last fall

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but the car then saving for school

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lol

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big rips

blissful sequoia
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you can save 70 bucks if you get your windows license on kinguin shrug

inner basin
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holy fuck $2k

blissful sequoia
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legitimacy - i dunno. but they validate perfectly for me and ive never had a problem with them

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i think they are volume licenses being sold like retail

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can get windows pro that way for $30

inner basin
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Has Moore said he's going to be connecting using Wifi?

narrow escarp
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dude, I didnt eat anything other than cheap food and put it to my tech fund

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I am for now

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will need to talk with the people who give me internets

inner basin
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You don't need 3 CPU cooloers

narrow escarp
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I know

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it was a click

inner basin
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Is it possible to even stack them? lmao

narrow escarp
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couldnt get rid of it

inner basin
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Hyper 212 EVO is a beast, from what I've heard

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And it's insanely popular

blissful sequoia
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no you dont need 3, just 1 cooler, but 1 extra fan for it

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make sure the fans are 4 pin PWM. it makes a huge difference from the 3 pin old crap

inner basin
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Also, is the 1TB SSD really necessary?

blissful sequoia
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Yea the evo is a classic, everyone loves it; it's even better with noctua fans

inner basin
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I know Moore is trying to "futureproof" his build, but imo it's better to just upgrade as you go

blissful sequoia
inner basin
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Storage is one of the most easiest things to upgrade, because it doesn't need compatibility with other parts really

blissful sequoia
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Oh there's a promo code: 11ARTQK2

inner basin
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tbh I don't want to fuck around with my data; I'd rather buy from a reputable brand Derp

blissful sequoia
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basically itsl ike $150 for 1TB of the damn fastest nvme

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its so cheap now

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even from a well known quality brand its cheap

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why does everyone act shocked at 1TB for the main disk?

narrow escarp
blissful sequoia
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i think 32gb is fine for RAM too

narrow escarp
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fixed it I think

blissful sequoia
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i mean it's an i9, its obviously a power machine

narrow escarp
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want to see my current specs

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and cry?

blissful sequoia
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you really like that case?

narrow escarp
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Yea I like red

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Id do green if I could

blissful sequoia
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seems like the lights are easy to change color

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those are just two $10 case fans, easy to get green ones

inner basin
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Ok you don't need a $90 optical drive

blissful sequoia
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the motherboard probably has lights that can be configured

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oh optical drive? lol i didnt even see that!

inner basin
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What the hell does a $90 optical drive even give you??

blissful sequoia
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cup holder?

inner basin
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Just go with a $30 one please Moore

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More expensive DOES NOT always mean better

blissful sequoia
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oh wow i meant like - why even have an optical drive at all

inner basin
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It depends; maybe he likes CDs?

narrow escarp
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guys im computer dumb

blissful sequoia
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i think i have some in a bucket in the garage ...

inner basin
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Oh @narrow escarp well (not to be offensive) but some of this makes a little more sense now ๐Ÿ˜„

blissful sequoia
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its not a bad start

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the dual video cards hmm

narrow escarp
inner basin
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@narrow escarp What games do you like to play? Division 2?

narrow escarp
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define playing Division II lol

inner basin
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Just want to see how graphically intensive things are gonna get

blissful sequoia
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i just bought one of those cases

narrow escarp
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I shoot with a sniper spam heal and hide for 2 minute of rendering

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then engage

blissful sequoia
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ah its the one with the more open top

inner basin
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@blissful sequoia I think we can subsitute some of these parts for better price/performance ones