general-discussion

[indigo spade]

Was he captured by civilians?

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

Imagine getting offended due to some letters

[topaz hedge]

https://twitter.com/swarthydylan/status/1497459830642122753

zelenskyposting 🇺🇸🇺🇦 (@swarthydylan)

goes harder than most album covers https://t.co/YHypxGI86a

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 6:33 AM

really does look like an album cover doesn't it

[indigo spade]

yeah it does lol

[topaz hedge]

Zelensky's about to drop a massive diss track on Putin

[balmy mantle]

eh

[dense python]

still waiting for sabaton song

[fiery sierra]

anyone hear anything? they expected a big push overnight from russia

[subtle bramble]

sabaton is overrated

[topaz hedge]

Sabaton is a bit of a hit or miss

good in some songs, feels like the exact same song in a few others

[indigo spade]

I just found my first average twitter user lol

[indigo spade]

I think they tried and lost, because we arent getting much news

[vivid notch]

pretty sure average twitter user supports ukraine

[indigo spade]

average twitter user has no brain cells

[tiny cliff]

Average twitter user is a moron

[indigo spade]

or that

[tiny cliff]

Russia is going to be bypassing the major population centres, if I was a betting man I would place their objective being the Dnepr river basin

[fickle cliff]

any update on sumy?

[vivid notch]

i wanna see where this is going

[tiny cliff]

Got a natural barrier there which will buy time to do partisan hunting in the East and see if the moron in Lviv has changed his mind

[fickle cliff]

did the ukranians take it back?

[tiny cliff]

Settlement under siege sir

[indigo spade]

Russian solider crying due to emotional damage because he was captured by civilians, thats all I know

[tiny cliff]

Tbh he does have a point, this is a turning point in history.

Will be especially welcome for countries screwed by the Anglosphere (I say that as a Brit.)

South Africa's history is frankly shameful

[indigo spade]

Context:

[tiny cliff]

Sumy itself is most likely bypassed, the odd conscript might go missing but in the scheme of things you are talking about very low casualties, not the fantasy figures being pumped out of Lviv.

This reminds me a lot of the 2020 Artsakh war where the Armenians claimed to have destroyed the Azeri army x4 over.

[delicate dagger]

isn't the average twitter user rooting for ukraine

[tiny cliff]

The average westerner is, the media have pushed them into a jingoistic frenzy over it

[vivid notch]

i'm just watching this from the fence

babling on the internet wont change anything

[honest sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946292429135421460/947295986798178354/FMiszj1XwAkmgqN.png

[tiny cliff]

I'm leaning towards RU. I think NATO has got far too big for its own good.

[vivid notch]

while i'm against invasion i do kinda understand russia's standing before the war

[regal fjord]

It would be Foxhole level of amusing if they captured a vehicle that the ukrainians captured before them

[tiny cliff]

We cannot afford to keep subsidizing people's armies, if this means places like Albania and Iceland finally play ball and stop depending on British assets to help then thats less tax I have to pay.

[indigo spade]

If Russia was the one getting invaded by Nato without a valid reason, then I would stand with Russia, but thats not the case

[vivid notch]

they probably would especially if they failed ukraine invasion

[tiny cliff]

Tbh it is Russian people who have been under the cosh for the last 8 years whilst the regime in Kiev was given a blank cheque to shell them on a daily basis. We should have had the balls to be honest and say sorry but you are just too close to Russia.

Kazakhstan has NATO and CIS assets in its borders, it is possible for countries to balance the needs of both.

[topaz hedge]

Personally I think Putin coulda just stopped at Donbas and demanded they be internationally recognised (though good luck getting that). A whole invasion of Ukraine is too far

[indigo spade]

If I was leading a country, I wouldn't want Putin on my side, just saying

[tiny cliff]

Its a decapitation op, cut off the head and put a satrap in to keep it chugging along.

[somber egret]

[tiny cliff]

Would rather Russia than no one, especially empty gestures.

[regal fjord]

Not actually realistic strategically, if Putin were to just go through LDNR territories and have that as a frontline, it would be oversaturated with troops and extremely vulnerable to massed artillery strikes

We would see casualty rates much higher than right now, when the fighting is sorta all over the place

[hazy bone]

btw if you guys are interested
https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE

[hoary meadow]

https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1497728057871896577

Global: MilitaryInfo (@Global_Mil_Info)

According to U.S. officials to CNN:

• Russia is suffering heavier losses in armor, aircraft & personnel than expected.
• Ukrainian AD exceeding expectations.
• Russia has not established air supremacy yet.
• Russia has been unable to maintain sufficient supply lines.

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Twitter · Feb 27, 2022, 12:19 AM

[vestal marlin]

Any new good news gentleman?

[indigo spade]

already watched it

GAS

[regal fjord]

Ukrainians could just pull a controlled retreat with artillery fire following them closely and decimate advancing troops

[tiny cliff]

Take this with a massive pinch of salt

[hoary meadow]

i guess good news above

[hoary meadow]

hep

[tiny cliff]

Ukraine has been pushing out more bullshit than the cattle farm in my village

[hoary meadow]

supply lines issue seems to be backed up, tanks are losing fuel rapidly

some guys even joked with the crews if they needed a tow back to russia

[tiny cliff]

In places yes, however you are also seeing a lot of recycled footage

[indigo spade]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ight-imma-head-out-bye-gif-14924635

[tiny cliff]

Plus one MTLB getting lost and breaking down does not prove the Russian army is screwed. Bare in mind they stopped moving at all for 12 hours to allow for a negotiation that the Lviv moron never bothered turning up to.

[marsh seal]

wrong time and place to take the edgy road bro

[tiny cliff]

My main worry now is that he has given out automatic weapons to every street thug in Kiev.

[hoary meadow]

train lines also were hit a while back so those troops are literally there with nothing

[upbeat plover]

Unless of course he's not being edgy, and he really believes it

[hoary meadow]

tank commanders being captured too doesnt seem good for morale either

[tiny cliff]

Ok, just promise not to cry too hard when they surrender in the next 4 weeks

[tiny cliff]

Allegedly

[hoary meadow]

oh no i wont, because i’ll laugh due to russians dealing with an insurgency now

[echo anchor]

Allegedly

[hoary meadow]

confirmed with ID, video, his wallet, and other stuff

[tiny cliff]

Cool, so you are ok with civilians being killed by terrorists. Bet 9/11 was a happy time for you

[tiny cliff]

Could all be forgeries.

[fickle cliff]

I still can’t believe these people exist

[upbeat plover]

It does seem to be going pretty poorly for the Russians though, history sure does rhyme

[hoary meadow]

i bet you’re having a happy time liking to see kindergartens being bombed

[tiny cliff]

Such as?

[fiery sierra]

Its funny how people kept saying the US whitehouse was overdramatic about warning of the invasion....

[tiny cliff]

Don't say the winter war because they won that

[analog kernel]

that's US reports, not ukranian reports

[fiery sierra]

obviously the US had good intel

[hoary meadow]

what, russians losing at chechnya?

[tiny cliff]

My point still stands

[hoary meadow]

then having their ass kicked again yet winning?

[upbeat plover]

Not after one if the most pathetic campaigns ever

[tiny cliff]

Chechnya ended up being demolished and put under Russian rule

[fickle cliff]

Yeah, after they had their asses handed to them because they couldn’t command a frontline for shit

[hoary meadow]

every war they pick they manage to lose a shit ton of units

[analog kernel]

It doesn't. US intel was right about the invasion so far.

[tiny cliff]

Still won

[hoary meadow]

yeah and the russians still decided to bomb grozny to hell and lose thousands of troops

[marsh seal]

there might not even be a war going on at all?!?!?!?! wake up sheeple !! its all a liberal 5d chess play to get Hillary into the white house !!

[tiny cliff]

Oh go fuck yourselves honestly

[upbeat plover]

I don't think the Russians will lose , but it's gonna be real costly

Horrendously so

[tiny cliff]

I'm off to bed, have fun wanking over a Neo Nazi state

[hoary meadow]

the russians wont lose, but they will win at a cost

[topaz hedge]

What did I miss

[hoary meadow]

support them all you want, you have to look at the past 30 years and wake the fuck up

[marsh seal]

Damn people will simp anything these days

[echo anchor]

This is what too many wide putin videos does to a mf

[topaz hedge]

Dude I will simp over a pilot that probably doesn’t even exist

[upbeat plover]

Ah, so he was a Russian, makes sense

[last nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/vladimir-putin-putin-walking-handshake-wide-gif-17687225

I enjoy wide putin, I do not enjoy actual putin

[fiery sierra]

Also kinda funny how 5 years ago there were questions of why NATO exists...now people a flocking too it like never before

[echo anchor]

Sometimes we need a reminder why it exists in the first place

[hoary meadow]

we got scared, simply put

and that point still stands in a more speculative world today

[junior tree]

do you like winnie the pooh

[echo anchor]

On the bright side, Putin is 69 (nice) years old, so he won't be long for this world

[topaz hedge]

Well that said a lot of other world leaders are older than him

[somber egret]

A lot

[topaz hedge]

Speaking of, how’s the Queen?

[echo anchor]

Her immortality potion should be kicking in

[marsh seal]

breaking news

[echo anchor]

All that remains is the skin replacement and she'll be right as rain

[fickle cliff]

Lads

The Russians are running out of fuel

[fiery sierra]

Dude, he can easily live till 80 or later, he does exercise and eats well. Look how trump eats, and he is still around....

[topaz hedge]

No
Fucking
Way

[echo anchor]

Let's see if the stress of losing to trees talking sunflowers will get to him.

[fiery sierra]

ROFL

[topaz hedge]

RAID Shadow Legends was behind this war, they Sponsored Putin to invade Ukraine so they can make money

[hoary quiver]

Lol

[hoary quiver]

The fiends!

[mental haven]

Putin should invade getting some bitches

[fallow flame]

Streaming Core Keepers =]
https://www.twitch.tv/agebee

[mental haven]

An important development

Finally some real news

[rapid kraken]

Streaming the one weekend I'm away

[hoary quiver]

Apparent current situation in Southern Ukraine
(Found in r/combatfootage dunno if true)

[mental haven]

Seems the lines haven’t moved much in a few days if this is meant to represent today

[pale trail]

Russian supply lines keep getting partied

Their qrf is shit

[vestal marlin]

https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1497751077663358976

Doge (@IntelDoge)

France's #Macron says #Moscow has been given 'green light' to deploy nuclear arms in Belarus, following call with Lukashenko.

Twitter · Feb 27, 2022, 1:50 AM

[somber egret]

[mental haven]

Russian logistics after turning into Ukraine

[hoary quiver]

If there is fighting in Mykolaiv I wonder how long Kherson will hold since it looks like Mykolaiv controls their only supply route that isn’t air resupply

[vivid notch]

take this with extra pinch of maj gen salt

no one will actually use nuke

literally suicide button

[mental haven]

Sounds more like a show of force

Anti western intervention measures

[pale trail]

Yeah nukes won't be used

[hoary quiver]

They are probably moving ICBMs over to Belarus but not armed with nukes

[slim acorn]

Misinformation?

Could be trying to provoke some reaction again

[pale trail]

Probably just more ballistic missiles to blow up innocent civilians

[lapis dagger]

ive been listening to this for a few minutes and it took me a while to realize he was not speaking english

[vivid notch]

nah the spotter dont have bino pls andastand

[mental haven]

I don’t think there’s much reason to lie about moving nukes, putins message is clear, he’s threatening the west because he genuinely thinks they are considering getting involved

[pale trail]

West is involved, just not with troops

[mental haven]

That’s also bolstered by the poor performance of Russian commanders with the assets they are given

[scenic raptor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475389471433687052/946982934169137162/snakeisland.gif

[pale trail]

grisly refuge will forever be known as snake island now

[mental haven]

Why does that photoshop work so well

Looks like he’s holding it and everything

[fiery sierra]

So can someone explain to me, why are the russians putting Z on their vehicles?

[mental haven]

Part of invasion measures

[vivid notch]

for easier identification?

[mental haven]

The US did it too during desert storm

[analog depot]

Supposed to be indentifiers for which region they're attacking

[vivid notch]

i'm sure ukraine and russia has similiar vehicles and weaponry

[fiery sierra]

ah ok

[jovial loom]

I’ve seen Z,V and O

[pale trail]

Probably so all the conscripting l conscripted don't shoot their own

[fiery sierra]

but then you can have ukranians do the same and ambush them lol

[mental haven]

The US version was the V symbol

[fiery sierra]

they should be doing suicide trucks

[vivid notch]

as if its that easy

can just contact with radio

[pale trail]

Russian logi is suffering

[mental haven]

Seems blue on blue has happened a few times during the conflict according to what I’ve been able to see, on both sides

[lapis dagger]

this calls for a union

[analog depot]

I mean Putin is already trying to do that

[fiery sierra]

Russia obviously didnt provide enough ppl at border to bring in logi trucks with a capped grid...total noobs

[hazy bone]

soo there this game called "foxhole"

[lapis dagger]

i wish russia gets its ass handed in a guerilla hell

[fiery sierra]

no no, dont let them train here

[analog depot]

Feels more like a game of Civ honestly, it's that surreal with what's been happening

[mental haven]

Wanted to bring something up, nova kakhovka is one of the few cities I can see that hasn’t turned off the lights

[fiery sierra]

Dunno man, you dont have ghandi nuking you

[vivid notch]

yet

[hoary quiver]

Where’s that?

[mental haven]

That would be in the south on the river

Near Kherson

[fiery sierra]

So aparently russia is salty that the US is sharing russian movements with ukraine?

[mental haven]

Dnieper river

[hazy bone]

if only they know about it then they probably wont have logi issue

[rapid kraken]

Brazilianese

[regal fjord]

There's been theories that Z stands for Western Military District (Zapadniy), V for Eastern Military District (Vostochniy), Delta for Central Military District and / for Southern Military District

[fiery sierra]

nah, they would probably go "logi is toxic, lets not invade"

[regal fjord]

Or it could just be the markings for Army Groups

[lapis dagger]

portugamer

[ebon walrus]

spainer

[hoary quiver]

The map I posted earlier shows that city to be in Russian hands

Dunno if true still

[fiery sierra]

The sad thing is, I don't think Putin will back off until he gets ukraine, regardless of the cost to russia

[fickle cliff]

Lads

Someone has obtained the emails and pass words of the entire Russian ministry of defense

[fiery sierra]

we know

annonymous did

the password are just hashes

[vivid notch]

"hey dude csgo later?"

[scarlet elbow]

wouldn't it be written in russian? Or in proper english? As in З or W instead of Z

[regal fjord]

Well, to begin with, it would be extremely obvious what it means if it was in russian. Notice that central military district (if the theory is correct) is marked as Delta, not "C", and southern district is / even of all things.
They could be using some sort of target recognition software that requires the markings to be in very specific sharp shapes as well — russian government final exam for high school (ЕГЭ) has very peculiar blank forms that require you to write letters in lines similar to how Z, V, Delta and / markings are done on the vehicles, which could be how they initially tested computer recognition technology which got later appropriated into military software (or the other way around)

It would be particularly important for close in air support, and if you pay attention to the photos we have, all russian vehicles have those markings on the roofs of the vehicles as well

[scarlet elbow]

I don't see why would they need to hide meaning of that though

[hoary meadow]

https://twitter.com/CrisisPointNews/status/1497736162374471681

Crisis Point News (@CrisisPointNews)

@RT_com Russian troops are surrendering on mass in Eastern Ukraine as supply's run low and support decisions have failed to arrive due to a break down in commander on the frontline. #RussianArmy #Russia

Twitter · Feb 27, 2022, 12:51 AM

this is….. i cant even describe

[scarlet elbow]

Nah it's most likely not for the target recognition, it would fail a lot if it used these markers

[scarlet elbow]

now what's left is to turn our army back and go for putin

[echo anchor]

Just heard the Russians blew up a pipeline in Kharkiv

[karmic ether]

10 Greeks died on russian bombing

[hoary meadow]

i agree, this is the time for enlightenment in russia

[karmic ether]

greece is asking for a cease of fire

[regal fjord]

Source?

[scarlet elbow]

wdym enlightment?

[karmic ether]

Fake, delete it

[hoary meadow]

i’ll get it one moment

https://fxtwitter.com/aliostad/status/1497519061554630658

[jovial loom]

[karmic ether]

bruh that fake 😂

[hoary meadow]

this was also a crisis prior to the invasion

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-troops-belarus-exercises-ukraine/31711282.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFH9wb5RrAc ok it seems the prior thing didnt work

[regal fjord]

doesnt open even with vpn

[hoary meadow]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497614458973306888

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Ukrzaliznytsia: All rail links to Russia destroyed.

The state rail service announced that all railway tracks from Russia to Ukraine have been blown up by Ukraine’s armed forces.

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Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 4:48 PM

[hoary meadow]

its above you

russians suffering some critical logistics failures in general

if you want more sources

https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-look-at-russian-army-logistics/
here, a prior look into the russian logistics

[regal fjord]

That doesn't quite prove troops surrendering en masse

[analog kernel]

no, but it's still a good read

and I recommend considering

[regal fjord]

There's been a report of Ukrainain's 24th motorized infantry brigade surrendering in donbass in full force, but the source was also trust me bro

[hazy bone]

sorry but there is no way the russian army would surrender in two days of fighting...

[hoary meadow]

i mean theres also other reports of antonov airport VDV troops having no way to recuperate on day 1

russian communications have fallen in fray

[analog kernel]

don't believe any such reports without video. Russians were making some big claim that the guys from the ukranian island that was bombed out all surrendered, that there was 83 of them, and that while the russians were picking them up the ukranians did some kind of mass naval attack using US satellites to coordinate targets

Was there video? no, there was not

source: trust me bro indeed

[regal fjord]

There was and it was fake as shit

I've seen it on our federal tv

[hoary meadow]

its hard to maintain an assault and morale when you cant keep up your own troops

https://fxtwitter.com/defencehq/status/1497714109521043462?s=21

[hoary meadow]

which nation?

[hazy bone]

Reminder that to use your judgment on media news
this shown there are different perspective from different side

[regal fjord]

Russia, why would Ukrainian tv broadcast that lmao

[hoary meadow]

what is russian state media even displaying?

i genuinely want to know truthfully

because its been 30 years and i want to find out more about its effects on the population

[regal fjord]

Buch of bullshit that makes Lord of the Rings look like a history book

[hoary meadow]

you disbelieve most of it?

[regal fjord]

I've stopped listening after they declared 0 casualties after 3 days of fighting

[hoary meadow]

jesus fucking christ

[marsh seal]

Dont believe the lies , Russia has already won the war and Putin has a full head of shoulder length hair any word to the contrary is a new york times pizza plot to make Hunter Biden the Tran gender Queen of America

[hoary meadow]

how the actual fuck

[ebon walrus]

Putin is in the best shape of his life too

[hoary meadow]

putin will rid the world of the capitalist empires and ensure the full sovereignty of a free world unshackled

[ebon walrus]

Dudes looking ripped

Shredded, as one might say

[hoary meadow]

how much has russian media covered the protests?

[regal fjord]

Like, the US Special Ops could probably land on actual literal mongolians from 1400s, and they will STILL have SOME losses and injuries, and they're trying to say there's 0 casualties from a 3 days intense fighting between two peer adversaries

[regal fjord]

none

[hoary meadow]

how the fuck do they get away with that

[regal fjord]

People skip their english lessons in school and then are left with no information source that isnt censored by gov lmao

Learn other languages, kids

[hoary meadow]

god damn

its insane because no ones gonna know whats gonna happen

[analog depot]

Putin is sounding more unhinged every time he makes an announcement

[regal fjord]

Well the army he's just spend couple hundred billion on is failing miserably against a technically inferior force

If I was playing Stellaris and my T5 neutron battleships were being killed by T3 railgun cruisers I'd be tilted too

[karmic ether]

Except they're not inferior due to the armament the NATO is giving them

[analog depot]

I mean yea would agree, but it's gotten to the point where he's actually threatening a nuclear conflict with no winners. At a point where he doesn't care anymore

[ebon walrus]

Proxy wars babbyyy

[regal fjord]

The army equipment overall is utterly inferior

[analog depot]

If anyone so much as THINKS to intervene

[regal fjord]

One of the issues Ukrainians themselves have been pointing out is that russian troops dont seem to have been issued any of the actually good new equipment Putin spent so much money on making

Which is just very stupid. If anything else, this war would be THE time to test it

Apparently VDV was sent in without kneepads even

[karmic ether]

most of the movements made by the russian army seem erratic

almost intentional

[regal fjord]

That's like having teched cutlers and ATRs and still only supplying mammons to the fronts besieged by MPTs

[analog kernel]

https://twitter.com/TommyLundn/status/1497548370042404866
Oh you must have missed the casualty reported from FSB to Interfax
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-border-guard-wounded-by-ukrainian-fire-ifax-2022-02-26/

Tommy Lund (@TommyLundn)

Russia reports first casualty- RUSSIAN SECURITY SERVICE SAYS BORDER GUARD SERVICE OFFICER WOUNDED BY UKRAINIAN FIRE - IFX -

Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 12:25 PM

[regal fjord]

Oh noes

Anyway

Generally russian word for casualty implies a dead soldier, not wounded

Army proper has specific designation, 200 for killed and 300 for wounded

[red slate]

Damn, it's really not looking good for Ukraine right now. The eastern front risks a big encirclement because the southern front can't be stopped.

[ebon walrus]

Denver city hall is up in ukraine colors haha

[azure iris]

I've seen more and more grassroots support for Ukraine around me

[red slate]

Look at LA City Hall. 😳

[ebon walrus]

Ah, havent been it a while haha

[somber egret]

I'm pretty dumb, but isn't there a system to intercept nuclear missles while they're traveling with other missles or something

[dull shell]

It’s 5 AM in Ukraine and I’m alive. The night was silent, or at least it looks like this

[red slate]

Yeah, Iron Dome. But it's not in Ukraine

Used by Israel and US I think

Oh wait that's regular missiles

[regal fjord]

Yes, but it is a) most effective when the missile has just launched, the closer to it the better b) intercept capability (understandably) decreases the bigger is the number of intercept targets

[regal fjord]

It is quite difficult to intercept ICBM on the second half of its flight once it gains reentry speeds

[vestal marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946315486474407946/947328914685050940/Screenshot_763.png

[vivid notch]

ehhh i'm not sure

as far as we know, the fighting militias are centered around and within kiev

the news of victories and what not

we have no idea what's happening on the outer cities

though we know that russia's footholds at east and south are still strong

i could be wrong still so i dont mind any correction

[pale trail]

A lot of supply lines for Russia are getting partied

So they are stealing food from locals

And running out of gas

[kindred cloud]

https://twitter.com/AntoniaJuhasz/status/1496929303266832387

Antonia Juhasz (@AntoniaJuhasz)

The U.S. oil industry is lobbying for the Biden to go soft on Russian sanctions despite Ukraine invasion. "Sanctions should be as targeted as possible in order to limit potential harm" to U.S. companies, said the American Petroleum Institute.

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 7:25 PM

muh oil at it again

[fickle cliff]

I don’t understand this

The US still has shit loads of oil under its own soil

Why does it need to bother with Russian oil and gas

[lapis dagger]

for the Biden
goddammit I knew they got a skinwalker on the office

[wet inlet]

Cos if they cut it out that fast, the market going to collapse

[analog depot]

Now why would you use your own reserves when you can use other countries

[fickle cliff]

That’s what screwing with OPEC is for

[vestal marlin]

as an american i love oil

but hte oil companies can wait

its time to fuck over russia

[pale trail]

https://youtu.be/j4IiT1aENzo

Logi cut

[fickle cliff]

I miss those days

[analog depot]

High chance it will spill out into global warfare btw. Apparently Russia is trying to get Nukes into Belarus. There's also the chance of cyber warfare spilling out and enacting article 5

[fickle cliff]

Getting a full tank didn’t blow a joke the size of the Admiral Kuznetzov in my wallet

[analog depot]

It's also probably why we haven't seen majority of Russian forces on the offensive: He's probably anticipating for it to spill out of Ukraine

[cunning owl]

Time to move away from LA ya think?

population center no bueno

[junior tree]

should i get RO2 w/ RS1 or Ready or Not

[cunning owl]

💀

[analog depot]

There's a lot more in reserves then people thought, and if gold prices have increased on top of continued trade with China, well. They might have funding to last for a little while

There's a few other countries that do and are supporting him with trade still, just be wary of that

More then that too. Again, don't be so sure on what their economy is like, we only see it from the markets, noone actually knows for sure how bad they're doing

Sole reason they're stinted right now is logistical support. Putin would've given up by now if he couldn't fund it anymore

[pale trail]

They aren't building their gains and getting partied

They'll start killing more civvies now that they haven't won yet

[analog depot]

That's mostly due to their logistical support tanking and getting partied to shit right now. I've already explained to another person how difficult it is for their logistics to actually get the supplies needed in.

Why would they play an ace if they know it could spill out at any given moment? There's a reason not even 1/4 of his forces have been transferred to this war. Funding is one of them true, but he's not so stupid as to not anticipate it spilling out, which is very likely with his threats of nuclear war heads, the moving of them to Belarus as well.

[vivid notch]

remember under 1k dollars doesnt count as felony :)

[analog depot]

There's already reports that he's given the greenlight for thermobaric weapons to be used. Still not entirely confirmed but there was multiple.

[vivid notch]

which front is the question

[wet inlet]

Have you done logi in Foxhole lmao?

[vivid notch]

i can understand logi problems on north and south

[wet inlet]

There's queues at border crossing

[analog depot]

Okay, so just as a run down: They don't have an air bridge. They don't have a train supply line running to their front. They are relying on trucks currently, trucks for heavy equipment on top of basic supplies.

[vivid notch]

but not east

[vivid mauve]

@autumn shadow Everyone, poke Aeper with a stick

[analog depot]

Or in other words, something like 6? 16 might be the actual number, of MLRS systems take about 96 entire trucks just to supply for a singular sortie.

[jovial loom]

I believe they have one air bridge south

[analog depot]

Except it's not so easy to create an airbridge as we've seen with this war, these are still modern peers with up to date equipment being used

Well probably because it's not quite secure with the amount of AA the Ukrainians have?

You don't just go and drop supplies like it's WW2, this is an entirely different era

They already have train lines doing that for them

And airlifting isn't exactly as efficient as it seems. The reason an airbridge is so important is so you can actually land feet and supplies on the ground at the front, without worry of any intermediate line

But it's NOT safe as we've already seen from 4 carriers getting shot down by Ukraine

[jovial loom]

I’m still unsure about that validity to this as I’ve yet to see any recordings.

[analog depot]

No, it's not that they lack resources, it's that they lack the logistical support to get the resources to their front. It's a nightmare at the moment.

[pale trail]

Ukraine already blew the train lines to Russia as well

[analog depot]

2 were confirmed, not sure on other 2

Yea and because nearby airports are inoperable they can't land the feet and supplies they need, where they need it. It all has to come from the backlines which is no small feat when you're relying on trucks WHILST using heavy equipment. Even if you air drop it to the middle line, they still have to transport it to the front.

Yea cause Ukraine already sent out a notice about the fuel trucks which are supposed to follow majority of columns, and that they should wait till the tanks pass and then intervene

[topaz hedge]

How’s Ukraine doin

[wet inlet]

Is it me tho or they not using aviation that much?

[analog depot]

You need somewhere to actually land. That's the issue.

Dude please tell me you know how large an MLRS rocket is. You're literally requiring 20-30 Helis just for a singular sortie of 1-2 systems

Yes but we're also talking about supplies. What do you think logistics is?

[fiery sierra]

fun fact, in the vietnam war, they used to use battleship shells to open up landing sites for helicopters

[regal fjord]

Because democrats are "muh ecology" and artificially limit the drilling of US resources. This pisses off US big oil, who turn to lobbying republicans, which in turn makes democrates even harder on artificially limiting the drilling of US resources. Its a clown eats clown world out there

Yes, Ukrainians started to take down road signs

Its sad, really

[pale trail]

They should point kiev signs toward moscow

[regal fjord]

Would YOU be hyper motivated to invade Texas?

Well, thats the answer

And every civvie is going MUH COUNTREH with his shotgun AND all you have to orient yourself is a paper map from the 60s

[unique sorrel]

Forget shotguns, they got AKs

[topaz hedge]

Dude, stepping foot in Texas itself is an achievement, don’t make me go any further

[regal fjord]

If I started to list every weapon at the disposal of an average texan I'd never finish typing my message

[topaz hedge]

The fact the 2nd ammendment exists is probably the one reason no country ever thinks about invading the US

[regal fjord]

No country that would be able to invade the US borders it

[unique sorrel]

The pacific and Atlantic are probably bigger deterrents

[regal fjord]

And the Mexicans have been invading for decades completely unopposed

[topaz hedge]

Just the imagination of an entire squad of soldiers being chased out of a town by angry gun-wielding folks

[unique sorrel]

Imagine Russia’s logi issues but over like two thousand miles of open ocean

[topaz hedge]

Yeah this is why I can’t exactly believe in invasion of US mainland plots

Honestly much cooler to see Cold War gone hot in mainland Europe or Asia

[worn walrus]

wags tail hewwo fellow foxhole gamers

[regal fjord]

^ straight to Ukraine with this one

[unique sorrel]

What the fuck is that about me

[topaz hedge]

Can it in #foxhole-discussion we’re talkin politics

[jovial loom]

[devout heron]

👏

[regal fjord]

Honestly, surprised there aren't more furries in a game literally named Fox hole

[jovial loom]

[jovial loom]

Hello

[pale trail]

literally the only reason russia hasn't marched back into nato countries is due to america's war tech

[scenic raptor]

wdym we have @edgy siren

[topaz hedge]

You jinxed it Uso

[edgy siren]

[regal fjord]

I don't mean there aren't any furries, just that I expected more

[subtle bramble]

hello fod

[jovial loom]

[regal fjord]

We have more femboys than furries

[topaz hedge]

There’s femboys in Foxhole?

[jovial loom]

This is a grave concern

[topaz hedge]

Like, actual

[regal fjord]

When have you last seen a techmaid?

[worn walrus]

oh yeah im not even a furry actually

anyway didnt mean to disrupt your politics talk sowwy

[subtle bramble]

Cain, the furry

[twilit sentinel]

only cuddle no breed

[karmic ether]

I hate furries

[twilit sentinel]

suspicious…

[devout heron]

@worn walrus this chat for us all 🙂 sup?

[karmic ether]

Back to politics

[topaz hedge]

If we evolved from hairy apes won’t that make all of us furries?

[subtle bramble]

@ebon walrus eagle just called you a furry

[regal fjord]

huh

[twilit sentinel]

i have the launch codes for the nukes i can restart the world right now

[topaz hedge]

Yeah do it Apollo

[ebon walrus]

Do something about it

[topaz hedge]

I really don’t like this run

Can we try another save file?

[edgy siren]

Speaking of launch codes

My StarCraft file got corrupted

[topaz hedge]

Oof

[regal fjord]

I mean, furries main thing is anthropodfjsjoijk however its spelled animals, and apes technically are animals, but aren't they also anthropods

[subtle bramble]

rip

[edgy siren]

I have to start over

[subtle bramble]

starcraft 1 or 2

[twilit sentinel]

it was me

i was the one who corrupted your file

[regal fjord]

Tags: corruption, ntr

[twilit sentinel]

im running for president of the United States

make sure to vote for me

on what

[karmic ether]

Russia sending Artillery TOS-1 “Heavy Flamethrower” known to clear out trenches and buildings by absorbing air to Kyiv and Kharviv

Russia.

[devout heron]

@subtle bramble humans are not anthropods

[twilit sentinel]

nuclear solution

[regal fjord]

Been spotted since day one

[subtle bramble]

prove it

[edgy siren]

StarCraft 1

[subtle bramble]

pain

[edgy siren]

Yeah

[subtle bramble]

starcraft 1 is quite hard

[devout heron]

we dont have exoskeleton do we?

[edgy siren]

I did rather well for Terran

[twilit sentinel]

you can always solve your problems by nuking it

[karmic ether]

USA has the new HUD helmets

[subtle bramble]

i didn't get past terran

[twilit sentinel]

I’ll actually develop an antimatter bomb

[edgy siren]

It's been years

[karmic ether]

Only that we have

[edgy siren]

But now my zerg progress is lost

[subtle bramble]

are you sure?

[karmic ether]

I mean things are getting worse now that Greek citizens have been killed in the bombing

So there is a 60% of war

[topaz hedge]

You’re actually a brain piloting your own mech

[karmic ether]

Imo

[devout heron]

@subtle bramble

[subtle bramble]

this is propaganda

humans are clearly arthropods

[regal fjord]

I've seen a mudcrab the other day, horrible creatures

[twilit sentinel]

the world right now

[topaz hedge]

We didn’t start the fire

[twilit sentinel]

it was me

[karmic ether]

Nah 78%

[devout heron]

https://tenor.com/view/step-back-bitch-crab-knife-gif-5128633

[twilit sentinel]

No.

[topaz hedge]

It was always burning

[twilit sentinel]

I make the rules.

[topaz hedge]

Ever since the worlds been turning

[karmic ether]

Something more bigger than Kyiv falling has gotta happen in order to fill

[twilit sentinel]

ok if you really want your make believe number to go up

[karmic ether]

like an accident at the border with troops shooting each other

[twilit sentinel]

what major city am i nuking

[karmic ether]

Krakow

[twilit sentinel]

and pinpointing it on russia

[restive vapor]

YOOOOOO

[twilit sentinel]

yeah I think that was yesterday

[twilit sentinel]

that is also an icbm

[karmic ether]

Spotted yesterday night

[jovial loom]

No That’s from euro maiden (2014)

[twilit sentinel]

which is not going to be launched cause there are troops in the vicinity

they are not nuking something in such close proximity

[analog kernel]

I don't know if they are paratroopers they should be careful

[twilit sentinel]

unless it’s some shitter nuke from the 50s

I’m talking about the icbm it’s not going to be launched

nuking is just to try and scare people

[karmic ether]

I’m thinking he’s just showing off, psychological warfare

[twilit sentinel]

the uranium and plutonium has probably unironically degraded

to an unusable state

[jovial loom]

[karmic ether]

Talked to some Russian chick she sent me this

[analog kernel]

no I think Putin means it, and just to show you how serious he is about it he's going to nuke some paratroopers just to show how crazy he is.

[twilit sentinel]

i think if russia just says fuck it and starts indiscriminately bombing the shit out of Ukraine i don’t think nato will step in

[devout heron]

lmao

[twilit sentinel]

unless the prayers forces them

[fiery sierra]

makes zero sense

[karmic ether]

Idc she’s European I like European women

[analog kernel]

putin is going to win in ukraine no matter how many paratroopers he has to kill to make it happen

[karmic ether]

Eastern European*

[twilit sentinel]

that’s is pretty brainwashed not going to lie

[topaz hedge]

Sounds pretty brainwashed

I’d say blue pilled

[devout heron]

yeh for sure

[pale trail]

russia getting partied hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcEn0cPS1-g

[indigo oracle]

With how Russia is blitzing hard to the capital it should be easy to partisan

[pale trail]

dude with ignis running up

[regal fjord]

NLAW
Javelin
pick one

[fiery sierra]

wholy shit, there are explosion and shots everywhere....and he just walking around with an NLAW as if nothing is going on

[indigo oracle]

Wish there was no civilians so Ukraine could actually mine or IED the roads

[twilit sentinel]

you know it’s really really unfortunate to think about this but if russia actually uses all of its forces it’ll just steamroll ukraine

[delicate dagger]

no happenings tonight

i sleep

[twilit sentinel]

the reports say it’s a tank based assault so far

[pale trail]

russia doesn't want to deploy everything to one spot. remember to never find land wars in asia

[twilit sentinel]

when they start tossing more bodies it’ll get really hard

[indigo oracle]

^

[regal fjord]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon

[indigo oracle]

Like what they should be doing from the start

Overwhelming numbers

[twilit sentinel]

i mentioned usage of a smaller bomb

[regal fjord]

Didnt see that in the chat flow

[twilit sentinel]

but if that happens I assume nato is going to join the war they cannot let that slide

[indigo oracle]

Russia should be attacking 3 to 1 in every engagement

[fiery sierra]

For a long time tactical nukes were banned under accords, to prevent proliferation and making it acceptable in war

[twilit sentinel]

i think I said shitter old nuke but that’s what I meant

[unique sorrel]

3:1 tanks just means more targets

[fiery sierra]

with putin, they decided to break that part of the accords

[indigo oracle]

Hell even napoleon did this in Italy KEKW

[twilit sentinel]

russias getting fucked by urban combat

[indigo oracle]

@unique sorrel Doesn’t need it be tanks

[fiery sierra]

urban combat is always hard

[twilit sentinel]

they don’t stand a chance with these tanks in these cqc

[subtle bramble]

they are not supporting their tanks with infantry

[karmic ether]

Logistics are everything in war

[fiery sierra]

the problem is eventually they will just stop, and shell the city until it surrenders

[indigo oracle]

They should be doing arty infantry and airborne all at once

[unique sorrel]

That is logistically EXPENSIVE

[indigo oracle]

They are sending guys in piece meal

[pale trail]

russia logi on strike

[twilit sentinel]

they just can’t do that though

[unique sorrel]

And they’re already having so many issues

[regal fjord]

Restricted RoE limits arty involvement

[twilit sentinel]

first of all there is a high possibility of blue on blue with para

[indigo oracle]

I guess so

[regal fjord]

The thinks they can shell they shell pretty damn hard

[twilit sentinel]

they can get shot down and the defenders put up resistance

[indigo oracle]

Or at least assault the city from two sides lol

[regal fjord]

But if you look at the map, the hardest fights arent where they can shell indiscriminately, its population centers

[fiery sierra]

If they start losing the war, the ROE will change. At one point Putin will care less about bad public image than he does about his imagine in russia if he loses this war

[pale trail]

foxhole... soon...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeS9-BLJhF8

[karmic ether]

has anyone heard about the president

Ukrainian president that is

[indigo oracle]

Once the ground moves in or gains a decent foothold send the VDV or something

[twilit sentinel]

yeah he’s smart for the morale

aspect he’s helping his troops a lot

[regal fjord]

Sure, perhaps, but this is then, and this is now

[karmic ether]

He knows that if he dies the morale will be broken

[jovial loom]

To Brest?

[unique sorrel]

Man was smart enough to get memed into a legend

[indigo oracle]

Russia keeps using ww1/ww2 tactics

[twilit sentinel]

yes he does but he def has some way out

[narrow kestrel]

Could be a martyr though, depends

[twilit sentinel]

you don’t know what your talking about dude im sorry

[unborn frost]

yeah think it would piss em off even more

[worn walrus]

is there a chance for a girls and panzer collab with foxhole btw ? 👀

[pale trail]

not sure could be flanking from west

[karmic ether]

No

[indigo oracle]

@twilit sentinel Have you seen the Russias suicide VDV like they are lemmings LOL

[unique sorrel]

Maybe mods but nothing official

[worn walrus]

[regal fjord]

VDV was so far just being shredded in pointless opposed combat drops way too far beyond the capability of regular forces to breach the frontline and link up with them

[twilit sentinel]

they are dropping them with no ground or air support

[indigo oracle]

That’s what I’m saying

[twilit sentinel]

they are just getting put into the middle of enemy territory of course they get fucked

[jovial loom]

That’s concerning if they are really going to try to stop the lethal aid

[karmic ether]

At this point I think various international forces are fighting undercover

[subtle bramble]

doubt

[jovial loom]

Doubt

[twilit sentinel]

there’s volunteers from other countries

[indigo oracle]

Imagine D-Day without the landings that’s basically what is going on with the VDV

[regal fjord]

Volunteers for sure

[narrow kestrel]

I'd be surprised if they weren't

[indigo oracle]

Getting crushed

[twilit sentinel]

yeah and the russian generals are stupid but also don’t give a fuck about the random conscripts

[indigo oracle]

Years* tbh

Russia keeps throwing men away its like Grozny all over again

[regal fjord]

VDV in Chechen conflict was mostly deployed to strategic landmarks with similar opposed combat drops, but that wasnt drops on entrenched positions, airports and cities, it was hills, tactical high ground, this sort of thing, and they performed pretty well there, and then in Georgia they barely got to do anything at all, so a lot of the core of VDV just has no experience in doing what they're doing right now

[pale trail]

wouldn't be surprised if half the troops are carrying ammo and the other half the guns

[regal fjord]

And what they're doing right now is very stupid, and so they're doing something that's stupid AND they've got no experience with

[twilit sentinel]

look i know probably jack shit in comparison to the generals of the military in almost every country

but i think that the Russians are just looking to solve this with bodies and wait to use their experienced troops on something more important

[subtle bramble]

i think that would make total sense

[regal fjord]

Black Sea Fleet marines are yet to be deployed as far as I know

[subtle bramble]

if situation gets out of hand they need the experienced troops to fight the OTAN or any other army

[narrow kestrel]

This is a Putin endeavour, not "Russians"

[subtle bramble]

ukraine is not an issue, even if it takes a long time russia is going to win, unless they decide to get out of there for other reason

[narrow kestrel]

He's worried about his base.

[twilit sentinel]

ok well my bad for not clarifying but the generals who are abiding to his orders are as equally responsible

so the kremlin

[tight obsidian]

glory to ukraine!

[indigo oracle]

They could be saving the better troops for possible war with NATO?

[twilit sentinel]

probably or if it gets difficult to take

[subtle bramble]

yes

[blazing canopy]

The issue is that Putin doesnt have infinite time. This was supposed to be basically over by now, and its not. That looks bad, makes putin look bad, and with the economic fallout thats gonna hit russia on monday, hes going to have public discontent.

[unborn frost]

that or probably turn em on his own people if they try to revolt.

[lapis ember]

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1497664806958030851?s=20&t=P7-Ij7M-iBgxkV2n88_mnA

Visegrád 24 🇨🇿🇭🇺🇵🇱🇸🇰 (@visegrad24)

Reports coming in claiming that Russia tried to insert paratroopers in Odesa but accidentally dropped around 50 of them out over the sea in zero degree waters.

The Ukrainians say that nobody made it to shore, adding “we didn’t even have to open fire”.

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[regal fjord]

The kremlin has started to push back to remove the moratorium on death sentence in the country, those generals have a very specific choice of abiding or getting executed

[narrow kestrel]

Putin is 69 years old for reference, pretty close to a dead

[lapis ember]

Skill issue

[pale trail]

lol

[unique sorrel]

Or just using older hardware because it’s not expensive as fuck to replace like their newer shit

[blazing canopy]

There is active talk from some russian folks intelligence adjacent/political adjacent that the timeframe is about 2 weeks to seize decisive control of Ukraine.

[unborn frost]

lol.. jeeze russian military looks so pathetic now..

[regal fjord]

cucked by wind, just like in Foxhole the persistent warfare game!!!

[blazing canopy]

Otherwise my hypothesis is Putin has to worry about regime change. Which is terrifying, cause its likely hes going to ramp this up to avoid failing or appearing to fail.

[twilit sentinel]

rather be dead then red

[narrow kestrel]

^

That's what worry putin

[pale trail]

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497713340986146825?s=20&t=XL7Yll4RRRL6wnin-iGgLQ

The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent)

⚡️Column of Russian special forces defeated near Hostomel "Kadyrovites," named so for the Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov.

According to Channel 24 sources, the Ukrainian military blew up an echelon of 56 tanks that included General Magomed Tushayev, who was killed.

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[twilit sentinel]

i think the economic disaster on Monday is going to be insane and will spark civil unrest

[unique sorrel]

How can he ramp it up? The troops he’s sent are running out of gas and having their supply lines fucked with, he sends something larger and he might have a serious issue

[blazing canopy]

People are memeing about it, but this is going to be fucking nuts.

[regal fjord]

Putin has SS-, sorry, I mean, Rosguard, which is entirely separate from the military and responds directly to him, and their troops never left for Ukraine

[marsh seal]

Russia isnt actually invading they are simply proving they are no threat to anyone so there is no need for Ukraine to worry about join NATO

[twilit sentinel]

it’s insane we just see modern authoritarians in one of the largest countries in the world and we watch as the western world

[wet inlet]

He sent the Uruk-Hais tho, they're part of it aren't they?

[blazing canopy]

We're looking at the same sanctions that happened to Iran in 2012 or so. I know from people affected by that, it was incredibly debilitating. No medicine, rationing of food and fuel, tremendous civil unrest. It only got tamped down by severe government repression.

[lapis ember]

Lmao

[regal fjord]

No, not really

[analog depot]

I'I fairly sure sending in military personnel into another country without a justified reason is called "invasion".

[regal fjord]

uruk's are expendable

[unique sorrel]

Compared to other troops* still humans

[blazing canopy]

If Japan puts its sanctions on russian debt too, like they did with belarus already, we're looking at a full 50% of the russia national financial reserves being unable to be utilized easily. Thats ridiculous.

[twilit sentinel]

i feel really bad for the civilians

[blazing canopy]

Like 1990's russia economic devastation.

[twilit sentinel]

of Russia

they are getting denied usage of their banking and ive seen stuff with overseas students being cut off

[blazing canopy]

The issue is payment processors are starting to go down. That alone makes it very real to the average russian indivudal. Combined with the ruble falling like a rock, people get upset.

[marsh seal]

is travel being restricted to and from Russia by anyone?

[twilit sentinel]

it’s good foreign influence though Russia has growing instability

[blazing canopy]

Planes basically are not flying out of russia to the west atm

[twilit sentinel]

you can fly there though

[blazing canopy]

Pretty sure the baltics and EU blocked it.

[wet inlet]

But they can fly in tho

[unique sorrel]

I mean it’s falling like a rock relative to its current value, I don’t think it’s fallen even a tenth of a euro because that’s how much it was worth before

Unless I missed a recent dip

[indigo oracle]

KEKW

[twilit sentinel]

i could honestly see a revolution taking place

or an overthrowing

[blazing canopy]

I saw it dropped ~20% relative to current value on the first day of invasion.

[regal fjord]

I don't

[topaz hedge]

A revolution is too far

[narrow kestrel]

He's got too strong a grip at home

[twilit sentinel]

idk with the fascists in russia they could abuse it

[unique sorrel]

Yeah but current value was like .12 or .012 of a euro lol

[blazing canopy]

Not a revolution, but regieme change to some other oligarch/Medvedev back in power with someone behind him? Possible

[topaz hedge]

I’d say mayyybe an overthrow of Putin but thing is he’s got the hand of the military

[unique sorrel]

I forgot which one

[delicate dagger]

in this chat: people with 0 geopolitical knowledge of the region speculate whataboutisms

[blazing canopy]

Konyeshna

[topaz hedge]

That’s FOD for you

[twilit sentinel]

also haven’t the oligarchs turned away from him

[wet inlet]

I used to be reddit virologist before

[blazing canopy]

Not in any major way. He has a tremendous amount of control over the oligarchs

[delicate dagger]

i preferred it when you complained about virtual weapon balance

[marsh seal]

yeah guys stop having opinion on massive world changing events!

[topaz hedge]

Yeah that’s what happens when there’s a war

[unique sorrel]

Nerf outlaw plz, 5m range and 20% dmg

[twilit sentinel]

i thought it was something in relation to the bank account and asset freezes

[regal fjord]

The revolution in Russia is gonna be people with at most small arms they've been lucky enough to steal from police against Rosguard unironic BTRs and BMPs, its gonna be stomped into the ground so hard Tiananmen would seem like a rather tame and humane conflict resolution

[blazing canopy]

The big thing is if he starts to look weak, then divisions start to form. And the man seems unbalanced now, and not taking the time to form a coalition, as what happened with him embarassing his Intel chief

Like even the CCCP took time to make sure everyone was on the same page propaganda wise. Putin isnt seeming to plan out with his underlings/advisors

[twilit sentinel]

look maybe not a full blown red revolt but i could really see the fascists taking abuse of it

of the really volatile climate there

[blazing canopy]

And the OSINT coming out of russia implies hes basically ruling by his own whims, which means that if he decides to be a psychopath, very few people are gonna try and stop him.

So the whole issue with "civilian resistance" is that its very likely the reprecussions will be very violent, very broad, and very cruel.

[twilit sentinel]

hmm actually I wouldn’t be surprised if the fascists pledged their allegiance to him

considering he fits right in

[regal fjord]

They already have

[unique sorrel]

Didn’t he have like a public speech to reassure some people the financial stuff wouldn’t be too bad? Or was that for something else

[blazing canopy]

Good news: Belarus President refused deployment of russian nuclear weapons in Belarus, confirmed by russian state media.

Just came in.

Which was insane to even consider, but still

[wet inlet]

Belarus now owes nukes

[twilit sentinel]

do you have a link to that

[blazing canopy]

Standby

You read russian?

[topaz pulsar]

confirmed by russian state media

[regal fjord]

Like, for 20 years the world just sorta ignored Putin turning the country into his favorite dildo, and now everyone's going "uh oh" and "how could russians let it happen!" when no one really was there to help us stop him when we tried

[blazing canopy]

https://tass.com/world/1412229

[mental haven]

Why are people talking about a Russian resistance

[regal fjord]

Because Potatoman's word is totally solid and respectable

[blazing canopy]

Right, I get what you mean: TASS is bullshit 99% of the time

[twilit sentinel]

that’s probably a lie

belarus is russias bitch

[blazing canopy]

But look at it this way: It doesnt make sense to try and lie about this, because every single intel group will be looking out for Short range nuclear missles being moved to belarus

[regal fjord]

TASS is bullshit 142%, its just sometimes they sink so far into spewing shit, they accidentally bound over and say something true alongside it

[blazing canopy]

Like when they drive down the road, they get noticed, beyond all the other intel stuff looking at em. You cannot move nukes in the 21st century and hope nobody notices

[twilit sentinel]

i doubt it would be make public cause they’d want to avoid freak outs if these are like federal levels of surveillance

[mental haven]

Russian state media usually operates in half truths. They acknowledge an event and spin it to a narrative, so you can interpret this development about lukoshenko to a more likely scenario

[regal fjord]

It makes absolute sense to lie about this, just like Russian state media is going on about 0 (i sorry, I mean 1) casualties

[blazing canopy]

Honestly? I see it as an off-ramp to escalation

[regal fjord]

Its not meant for people with a functioning brain

[blazing canopy]

What benefit is there to make a lie which frankly only applies to people outside russia?

If it was domestically relevant, then sure, absolutely

[mental haven]

Usokitsuki I was actually wondering something if you have any knowledge about it

[regal fjord]

?

[blazing canopy]

But people in moscow are not gonna get happier/calmer learning about forward deploying nukes. People in the EU/West would be the target audience for this action.

[unique sorrel]

What benefits are there to telling the truth?

[mental haven]

I have come across a movement in Russia that denies several major points of Ukrainian history, such as founding of cities, medieval government structures, and the development of Ukrainian as a farce that the west invented. Do you know anything about who’s pushing that narrative?

[blazing canopy]

Could be a lot of things. Could be Belarus realizing "holy shit, we're about to get fucked by sanctions, Putin is fucking up in his campaign, lets not have nukes anywhere near us/violate the NPT"

Or it could be a way for Russia to say "hey, look, we're being sane, come negotiate with us"

[regal fjord]

Not who because I try my damnest to not associate myself with internal Russian politics due to pointlessness of it all, but I know there are neo-nazi groups that push this, sure

[blazing canopy]

Russia has a policy known as "escalation to de-escalation", where they raise the stakes super high, then when they come back to near-reality, they try and start negotiations from the new point

[mental haven]

There were some older Russians I was having a conversation with that were talking about it and they linked a group, let me find its twitter

[regal fjord]

There are also people that say Canada doesnt exist

[blazing canopy]

If I could get that link too pls

[unique sorrel]

And they’re right

[regal fjord]

And there's also lots of flat earthers across the globe

[blazing canopy]

Implying theres a globe

[regal fjord]

I just dont keep my eye on insane people

Unless they're really hard to not keep your eye on, like being your fucking president for one

[unique sorrel]

“I don’t hang out with insane people” is on FOD

[regal fjord]

FOD is the right kind of insane, I can vibe with it

[narrow kestrel]

Candaia is a pure conspiracy theory

[blazing canopy]

So, confirmation of what happened to the Chechen unit near Kiev

Video should be out soon, it was actually Ukranian air power that hit the convoy. People talking about getting it uploaded now.

Which is astonishing that the Ukranian air force is even functional at this point

If no video in 12 hours then obviously i'm getting fed a load of shit

[regal fjord]

Still surprising that there was no Brest frontline being opened to deal exactly with the airfields in the west of Ukraine

[karmic ether]

RECENT:ASEAN stops short of saying it condemns Russia attack on Ukraine, choosing instead to say it's "deeply concerned" & there's "still room for a peaceful dialogue". Interesting Russianot identified at all in statement. Myanmar, an ASEAN member, had supported Russia's actions

[blazing canopy]

The Myanmar junta is basically propped up fully by Russia tho

Same way Syria isnt gonna make any noises

[unique sorrel]

Isn’t Myanmar still in the middle of that civil war?

[wet inlet]

I'm not into conspiracy and all that but I feel like with all these sanctions and the turmoil that's gonna be there, Putin just fed those urak-hais for his own safety

[karmic ether]

Air strikes sirens in Odesa and Rivne

[blazing canopy]

Theres a conspiracy theory that the reason he pushed the Chechens in was
A. Theyre shock troops, better motivated/informed, etc.
B. Doesnt want to have chechens getting ideas of an insurgency while all the troops are in ukraine

idk if I believe it

[unique sorrel]

Even more logistical challenges for something that can in theory be kept suppressed by air power and an alpha strike doesn’t seem to fit with the Russian’s “plan”

[mental haven]

https://twitter.com/rwapodcast?s=21 run by two Russians. They offer extremely different viewpoints to current events in Ukraine.

They also deny several points of Ukrainian history, as well as the Ukrainian identity.

Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast)

Two Russians manoeuvring the globe-spanning American monoculture | also on Gumroad: https://t.co/OZxhiVSnqM | Merch: https://t.co/aoCiCm3GHX

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Twitter

They seem to be not trustworthy tbh

[unique sorrel]

It’s a podcast

[regal fjord]

Well the air power is clearly not doing the suppressing bit very well, now does it

[blazing canopy]

The russians do appear to be having massive logistical issues, based on civilian videos. My hypothesis is that if Putin did originally intend to go in on the 16th as per western Intel agencies, and had to standby for a week, the logistics are currently kinda shit

[unique sorrel]

Probably wouldn’t trust it as far as I can throw it unless you know for a fact it’s true

[mental haven]

It’s not good info really

[blazing canopy]

Like stuff is being left on the roads left and right

[unique sorrel]

That’s the theory part lol

[mental haven]

But I noticed that it has 32k followers

[unique sorrel]

Lot of stuff doesn’t seem to be going to plan exactly

[karmic ether]

i think putin is testing the ukrainian military and people

[blazing canopy]

Theres a bunch of russian telegram groups with ~200k+ people in em light that

[mental haven]

It’s scary because these groups offer info that’s even more biased than WESTERN sources

[limber vault]

You have no idea how good it is when you get only one air alarm per night

[blazing canopy]

It doesnt make sense to push in slowly, cause hes on a time crunch.

[fickle cliff]

heres the thing

[limber vault]

I finally got to sleep

[unique sorrel]

Glad to see you’re still alive

[fickle cliff]

the russians are not that good at blitzkrieg tactics

its why they suffered in Finland

and why they relied on deep battle tactics in WW2 when they started, and continued to push back

[mental haven]

I hope you get more days of rest cryner

[empty sphinx]

Riddle me this nerds

[mental haven]

Both of them are gay

[empty sphinx]

Which gay wolf are you

[mental haven]

Both of them

[empty sphinx]

Based

[regal fjord]

Last I checked inside me were intestines and other organs and no wolves

[limber vault]

Neither, I don't snore

[empty sphinx]

Coward

[mental haven]

The chance of wolves being in your intestines are low but never 0

[regal fjord]

I'll have you know I sexually identify as a plantgirl

[blazing canopy]

@limber vault Гей, у вас є якісь контакти в медицині в Києві? Можливо, у мене є люди, з якими вони можуть зв’язатися щодо поставок.

[mental haven]

Talking about medicine?

[blazing canopy]

Yeah

[mental haven]

Wow I actually understood slightly I’m proud of myself

[limber vault]

Nah, I don't think so, though...we could use some extra personal first aid kits

[pale trail]

@limber vault keep up the good fight

[blazing canopy]

If you have anyone at all who is in that sector, in some kind of management role, I can try and connect them to someone who can get them supplies.

[regal fjord]

Sounds like a drug dealer offering to pass the "good stuff"

[mental haven]

Do Ukrainians also have that thing where if the o is at the end it’s pronounced like an a

[blazing canopy]

If theres other issues re: evacuations to the west, immigration/legal/housing in Hungary/Poland/Romania, theres another group I can get you in contact with

[pale trail]

except "good stuff" is literally, "stuff to keep people alive"

[blazing canopy]

But all those people are out of country

The medical stuff is trying to get into country.

And my background is more in medical, so I can very much appreciate how crucial medical supplies are in these situations, especially if civilian casualites mount.

[unique sorrel]

You say if like a missile didn’t deck a building earlier

[blazing canopy]

Unfortunately I can see it much, much worse.

[unique sorrel]

We all can

[pale trail]

yeah if they actually used thermobaric weapons, lot of civilian casualties would mount

[blazing canopy]

And things like antibiotics, lactated ringers, reusable supplies are worth their weight in gold if this devolves much further

[devout heron]

Tsjetsjenias brutale diktator, Ramzan Kadyrov, is sending soldiers

[blazing canopy]

Yeah, they already had a convoy wiped out

[wet inlet]

You're kinda late bro

[analog depot]

Apparently, not confirmed though, but apparently Putin already has given the greenlight for their usage

[blazing canopy]

Thats the rumor atm

[unique sorrel]

That’s a great way to ensure continuous supply shipments to Ukraine

[blazing canopy]

Theres some commands that went out to the NBC corps, who are the ones who technically use the thermobaric weapons. Its not just regular artillery

[analog depot]

It is confirmed he's trying to move warheads to Belarus

[unique sorrel]

Using thermobarics on civilian infrastructure

[blazing canopy]

Krazy, russian media is pretty hard core denying it

In this one case, i'm gonna believe it

[analog depot]

Yea French PM basically confirmed it via Belarusian government when he was asking them to withdraw

[pale trail]

well, with all this cell phone footage, it makes it really hard for the russian propaganda machine to be successful

[narrow kestrel]

You're choosing to believe russian media -now-?

[analog depot]

Sorry, asking their government to ask Russian troops to withdraw

[blazing canopy]

Yes, because it helps them

[unique sorrel]

Optimism

[blazing canopy]

I doubt the troops are getting pulled back

[mental haven]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: every Russian bomb that misses a military target hits a civilian. And every civilian hit, is another detriment to Russias influence. Putin is securing his own efforts demise for expanding russian influence out the gate

[pale trail]

russia will never win this, even if they eventually do take kiev, the insurgency will be insane

[blazing canopy]

The issue is I doubt putin gives a shit about ukranian civilian casualties

[narrow kestrel]

no one said he did

[blazing canopy]

He simply cannot be made to look weak

[mental haven]

He’s already been embarrassed based on reports I’ve seen. Time will tell if this will permanently damage his reputation amongst his supporters however

[narrow kestrel]

He cares for himself and his power base. That'd be the oligarchs

[blazing canopy]

The stuff coming out re: russian plans were they expected much less ukranian resistance, kinda believed their own propaganda of being liberators, and planned for a quick campaign that deposed the government inside of 24-36 hours

[unique sorrel]

He uses thermobarics on anything that can be called a civilian and any support he might have left from other countries gets put at extreme risk

[mental haven]

If he does then countries that support him risk condemnation of their own

[blazing canopy]

What support at this point? Even Kazakhstan told him to get lost, and he sent troops to help em not long ago. China is trying to toe a middle line atm, their coverage is frankly a lot more balanced on the issue then it was

[unique sorrel]

I think he had a chance of some minor help from India

But not sure

[blazing canopy]

The fact China decided to take a step back and basically abstain from getting involved in any meaningful way is quite huge.

[mental haven]

Just because they aren’t sending Russians troops, it doesn’t mean they aren’t still supporting Putin, they are just being quiet. It is important to find who has outright condemned the situation and who has said nothing

[pale trail]

china is still involved in that they gave assurances the russian eastern flank would not be attacked

[blazing canopy]

China wouldnt attack anyway, cause nukes. Thats not a real threat to russia at this point.

[regal fjord]

Regardless of the nukes China cannot afford to attack russian eastern flank, India is gonna immediately pounce them

[wet inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-mexican-standoff-finger-guns-michael-scott-dwight-schrute-gif-15805326

[blazing canopy]

But Putin is not looking like the strong-man image he portrays, and neither is the Russian military, which makes the whole state look weak. Add onto that the massive economic fallout coming down, people start to perceive Russia as being weak. Whether thats true or not, perception becomes reality.

[mental haven]

I like how everyone hates each other in politics if they don’t outright say it

[regal fjord]

Then pakistani are gonna go for India, Iran is gonna do something stupid, KNDR is gonna launch a "small victorious war" Japan's gonna get involved, US gonna get involved and it all spirals outta control into an actual WW3

[blazing canopy]

You'd be surprised how much "higher level" intel stuff is all basically rumors about diplomats

Like outright rumors, its called "RUMINT"

[mental haven]

I think if this invasion goes for longer than a few weaks, then that’s when putins influence will truly be shattered. Right now it is shaky, but it is not dissipated

[blazing canopy]

My money is on 2 weeks total

Also, one of russia's "Air Force 1" analogue planes just flew into Minsk

So obviously someone is pissed off at Lukashenko, if Im a betting man its cause Lukashenko made a public comment against agreeing with russia re: nukes

[wet inlet]

That guy always been playing on two fronts to be honest, not so much now as before protests over there

[blazing canopy]

Lukashenko is an idiot

[wet inlet]

That's 100%

[regal fjord]

There's been rumours about belarus conscripts being moved to the border, so it might be about deploying actual belarus army into ukraine

[mental haven]

I like how lukoshenko looks like mr potato head

[wet inlet]

He's a literal potato-lord

[regal fjord]

He loves his potatoes

[blazing canopy]

The issue is that adding more troops to the mix doesnt neccesarily help atm, cause that strains logistic lines more

[regal fjord]

Can't strain what's not there

[blazing canopy]

So, little background: even in the US army, we have about 72 hours of advancing without supply lines before we HAVE to stop

[fickle cliff]

China doesn't want to lose russia as an ally, but they can't support them either

[unique sorrel]

Hey, may as well add a fuckton of soldiers who have even less reason to stand and fight to the mix

[mental haven]

Question. Where are our sources on Russian logistic lines? I’ve heard it talked about a lot, but not much has been said.

[blazing canopy]

And considering the fact there are literal russian troops begging for fuel/supplies from locals, and vehicles are being just straight abandoned

[narrow kestrel]

lukoshenko looks like a dog fkr

[unique sorrel]

Only thing I know is tanks running outa gas and a fair few videos of trucks getting hit

[blazing canopy]

It implies the supply lines are either super disorganized or nonexistant

[regal fjord]

One of the biggest ones is infantry not actually having Ratnik on

[blazing canopy]

The other thing is the lack of apparent fuel tankers

[mental haven]

I see. I hadn’t considered that at first.

[regal fjord]

How is it called in english, evidence from circumstance

[blazing canopy]

So, when they were massing on the border, a bunch of tanks had their extra fuel tanks on, and people figured that was cause they were gonna make a rush for kiev

But now people are hypothesizing its cause the fuel supply is so fucked, that the armor HAS to carry more because they dont have support companies all over

[mental haven]

You mean that advanced armor they were saying stops 50 cal?

[blazing canopy]

lmao I didnt know they said that

[mental haven]

And turns the wearer into soup!

[regal fjord]

No, I mean Ratnik kits

[mental haven]

I see, like, body armor? Are you referring to something else?

[regal fjord]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratnik_(program)

[blazing canopy]

Ratnik is like their advanced combat kits

[mental haven]

I see

A doctrine to modernize the army

[blazing canopy]

Ive seen videos of Russian infantry wearing old, old shit too

Like not even their modern helmets

[mental haven]

It only started in 2013, usually takes awhile to modernize whole armies

Unless you’re the US

Then you can do it in a weekend, apparently

[regal fjord]

Like, its one thing to have conscripts wear old shit, but even VDV troops that've been dropped so far dont seem to have been issued any of the new good shit

[mental haven]

Just in general a big fishy situation

[cunning owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289694059243634688/947354856132341770/e4owjets17k81.mov

[mental haven]

Points back that point I’ve been saying ad nauseam, Russian military isn’t communicating effectively due to several factors

[blazing canopy]

Agreed

[regal fjord]

Like imagine US Specops getting deployed to assault London, but all they're given are National Guard reserves equip

[blazing canopy]

It seems like their BTG group system is just all over the place

[fiery sierra]

I think they expected to roll right thru ukraine on the first day....

[mental haven]

Even our national guard gets modernized equipment I believe

[unique sorrel]

Buddy our cops get decent enough shit

[mental haven]

Yeah the cops are getting mine resistant trucks and shit

[blazing canopy]

I genuinely think they assumed they were gonna walk in and be greeted as liberators

[fiery sierra]

who said the national guard equipment is bad? its basically our frontline troops now. Most of what was deployed to afghanistan and iraq was national guard

[blazing canopy]

For example: the very first day of invasion, Russian national guard/Riot police actually tried to race into downtown kiev in a bunch of trucks

[regal fjord]

Thats why I said reserves

[fiery sierra]

they are the reserve

[blazing canopy]

And got absolutely killed

[mental haven]

The Russian government was saying the general populace of Ukraine was being repressed by a fascist, western backed government

So I’m sure that bled down

[regal fjord]

Reserves of the reserves

[blazing canopy]

Like they assumed they were gonna succeed just racing into the capital with a bunch of reservists

It doesnt make sense unless they figured they were gonna meet little/no resistance

[fiery sierra]

The US military doesn't keep old equipment really as reserves like that. They are hard to maintain.

[lapis ember]

They give it to the marines kekw

[regal fjord]

lol

[mental haven]

Us military just sells their old shit to stores and cops and shit

[fiery sierra]

they have a bunch of stuff in mothballs, but they are all like A1 abrams tanks, they may just not have the latest Tech packages

[fiery sierra]

Well, mostly overseas

[mental haven]

Can’t forget overseas

Don’t they primarily sell to PMCs?

[fiery sierra]

pmc?

oh

[mental haven]

Private military

[fiery sierra]

somewhat, only the lighter stuff. Not tanks or planes

[narrow kestrel]

they sell to anything with a pulse, and even then...

[mental haven]

Kids in Libya probably

[blazing canopy]

Ukrainian TV-5 channel is reporting missle ambush on the russian tanks that were headed towards Kiev

[lapis ember]

Nah nah nah that’s Toyota, not the government

[blazing canopy]

Allegedly 2 destroyed?

[fiery sierra]

actually the US does a lot of "export" variants. They take their equipment and strip out anything advanced

then they put an older system and sell it

[fiery sierra]

hey, cant blame the terrorists for recognizing a good reliable vehicle

[mental haven]

Wonder if it’s true, can’t tell since not at computer rn

[blazing canopy]

Im surprised its hitting the UA media before internet media

So big grain of salt

Here's the riot police thing I mentioned: https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/1497573785414901760?t=smMxrPgGkL4h2bXtfSGN_g&s=19

CIT (en) (@CITeam_en)

The Russia-Ukraine war so far has had both heroic and horrific episodes.

This is perhaps the strangest of them: the story of how a Russian riot police convoy went to conquer Kyiv on its own. https://t.co/mWYWjIKkwj

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[mental haven]

Weird, people were also saying these men were Russians that stole a Ukrainian truck as a distraction

[blazing canopy]

Basically a riot police group tried to rush into kiev, and got absolutely blasted, because they must have assumed they'd have more support from the populace?

They were russian troops, that part is confirmed

[mental haven]

I would unfortunately suspect there may be some propaganda going on here as far as their motives

[blazing canopy]

But not regular forces, like National Guard riot police

So its intriguing what they thought was gonna happen

Cause they were WAY past the front lines, absolutely racing to get into town

[limber vault]

Yeah, that's weird af

[unique sorrel]

Were those the guys who drove a Ukrainian truck with Ukrainian uniforms and got fucked up or someone else?

[blazing canopy]

I think so

[scenic raptor]

Seems fake, comments point out that there’s no other reference of that and the lack of Russian markings

[mental haven]

I don’t think them being riot police is true, but don’t know yet

I’m still wary of propaganda from both sides media

[blazing canopy]

This was the "saboteurs" who took ukranian vehicles

[scenic raptor]

The ones who got absolutely cucked?

[blazing canopy]

Yeah

Its like what do you hope to accomplish with 20-30 guys racing into the heart of downtown Kiev with no support

[wet inlet]

This is fishy they handed out guns to crapton of "civilians" and right after that saboteurs all over the place

[blazing canopy]

Unless you honestly believe that you are gonna get welcomed as liberators or something

[mental haven]

It seems to indicate that we don’t have the full story on who the men in the truck are, and what their motives are. I would take this instance with a grain of salt.

[limber vault]

Well, we did capture at least one of OMON guys

[unique sorrel]

As always, but the guys who fucked them up seemed really confident

[blazing canopy]

Frankly, I could be confused on the info im getting re: them being Rosgvardia

It would make more sense they were OMON

[regal fjord]

There's no way they're Rosguard, uniforms dont match

[blazing canopy]

Which are kinda "special forces"

Right, these were the guys who disguised themselves and ran into kiev

[limber vault]

Something similar to SWAT

[blazing canopy]

Like theres no way these were just random conscripts who got lucky

[regal fjord]

Quite literally SWAT

There's also Japanese version but I dont remember what theyre called

[blazing canopy]

Cause the reported russian plan was to decapitate the government within 24 hours

[regal fjord]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Assault_Team

[mental haven]

Which seems to indicate to me they believed Ukrainian intel would be shoddy enough that none would know there’d be a group of Russians in a stolen truck

[blazing canopy]

And this + the failed airborne landings seem to have been a big part of that

I think they just really underestimated the ukranian capability and willpower

[unique sorrel]

If you told me the SAT were breaking down my door I’d laugh at you lol

That’s a test here

[regal fjord]

You wouldn't have a lot of time to laugh

[unique sorrel]

Fair

[fiery sierra]

still, I wonder if the ukranians had activated their reservers earlier, if this had been even better for them

[blazing canopy]

Its a good question

[regal fjord]

You'd get mildly amused and then your door would come down

[fiery sierra]

they were trying not to escalate, but its obvious the US knew it was coming

even though so many were calling the US chicken little

[limber vault]

I assume so, I have received the call about mobilisation like 16 hours before the attack

[blazing canopy]

Anyone who was paying attention could see something was gonna happen

[mental haven]

If the Ukrainians activated their military the Russians would include it in their reasons for the invasion

[fiery sierra]

Ya, there you go. Way way too late

[blazing canopy]

Theres no reason to bring massive blood banks to the front for shits and giggles

Cause that stuff has a shelf life

And nobody ever has enough blood banks

[unique sorrel]

If they had activated their military the Russians might have come up with an actual plan

[scarlet elbow]

To be honest no reason would justify this

[blazing canopy]

Once I heard about that I moved all my stocks around and filled up my car/propane

[analog kernel]

if the russians had come up with a plan maybe they wouldn't have done this in the first place

[unique sorrel]

Fair enough lol

[regal fjord]

Most likely just limited the scope of the invasion to the LDNR territory

[scarlet elbow]

done what?

[fiery sierra]

They did have a plan, they had the whole damn country surrounded

[unique sorrel]

Are they even making progress there?

[analog kernel]

step one: have our own vietnam on our borders
step two: ???
step three: profit

[limber vault]

Didn't help them too much kekw

[regal fjord]

Moved like 10km