general-discussion

[twilit sentinel]

well their economy is garbage

[topaz hedge]

And it’s slowly growing more garbage

[twilit sentinel]

its been boosted in recent years for fuel but now its completely screwed over

[toxic spade]

It was already bad, now it's just comically bad

-6000% stock

[topaz hedge]

Not stonks

[twilit sentinel]

its unfortunate because the people of russia and europe are suffering

as consequence

[toxic spade]

And the oligarchs who are behind punditz like putin are doing relatively fine
Dunno if brits have seized their assets yet, there was big talk of that yesterday

[wide hazel]

Russia lost some 30%+ of their population when Ukraine became independent

[twilit sentinel]

their assets have been seized already

i saw they have had their bank accounts frozen i know thats true for sure

[toxic spade]

Ah, good

[azure iris]

https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1497260088293269505?t=Rs9Pe6-KQZGmtSNfVUeQQw&s=19

Neil Hauer (@NeilPHauer)

Talking to a 25-year old girl in the subway shelter in Kyiv. When asked what her plans were for the coming days, she said immediately "make Molotov cocktails."

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[twilit sentinel]

putin could come out of this with a new patch of land but his economy is gone, his allies turn their backs to him and he loses support

[wide hazel]

Russia barely had an economy to begin with

[topaz hedge]

He’s basically got a lose-lose situation

A catch 22 if that’s the right term

[wide hazel]

They even said themselves they had been working to reduce their reliance on imports

[topaz hedge]

Yeah but I think this just makes it worse for him

[twilit sentinel]

i wouldnt be surprised if any overthrow takes place

considering the climate in russia right now other political parties are definitely going to take advantage of it

could be good or bad

[jovial loom]

Could be unsuccessful

[twilit sentinel]

i think there is a reasonably large group of supporters

[toxic spade]

Yeah this is gold for them

[topaz hedge]

Well it’s the fact there was an overthrow in the first place that should scare Putin

[twilit sentinel]

a lot of people even from the time of the USSR are shitting on putin over this

like older 60+

[toxic spade]

Anyone thats puts a stop to this war is getting the love of the masses

[twilit sentinel]

im pretty positive fascists will take advantage of it

[topaz hedge]

You know I think this war has the biggest potential to change geopolitics for good or bad

[wide hazel]

I don't think putin is an idiot and I'm more than willing to bet he knew the risks going in

[twilit sentinel]

he did but he didnt anticipate how slow the invasion is taking

[topaz hedge]

He’s a gambling man

[twilit sentinel]

he said it'd take a couple hours and here we are almost three days in and kiev is still ukranian

[topaz hedge]

And the RNG gods decided to screw with the dice

[slim acorn]

Favorite stalker weapon 💀

[wide hazel]

[indigo oracle]

@haughty pivot Did you guys get any muzzle flash suppressors?

[toxic spade]

Lmao that's hilarious where did he say that

[gaunt geyser]

Duty and freedom got overrun by russian military 💀 💀 💀

[slim acorn]

💀

[topaz hedge]

Sky guard you in military or just civilian?

[balmy mantle]

What’s China up to

[azure iris]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497277894913105927?t=1di-GX_x7WvtPHvp-sLCsQ&s=19

NEXTA (@nexta_tv)

❗️Audi, Jaguar Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Citroen and General Motors have suspended shipments of cars to #Russia.

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[topaz hedge]

Ah

[azure iris]

I think it's turning into one and the same over there

[topaz hedge]

Yeah everyone’s taking up arms by the looks of things

[indigo oracle]

So reserves/militia?

[wide hazel]

Yeah I'd actually like to see where he said that too lmao

Funny if true

[azure iris]

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497259138476175360?t=3I8-3f3NjCeCOFTF5TIF0A&s=19

Woofers (@NotWoofers)

Armed patrols by newly-equipped militia in Kyiv https://t.co/JdgRebXLeY

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[balmy mantle]

Is China still going to support Russia ?

[azure iris]

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1497284165137580036?t=TchsbjIR4us7MYTY-tCJEQ&s=19

Woofers (@NotWoofers)

Fighters in Kyiv have NLAWs.

Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 6:55 PM

[twilit sentinel]

people talking about taiwan getting invaded

no chance i incredibly doubt that

[toxic spade]

"No yeah i totally vaccinated, snorted the powder and everything"

[twilit sentinel]

they wont

they are so so so reliant on exporting if they get sanctioned its really bad for them

[topaz hedge]

Given how close US is with Taiwan I expect a much bigger reaction by NATO on Taiwan compared to Ukraine

[balmy mantle]

The USA has no defense pacts with Ukraine. But don’t we have a few with Taiwan

[topaz hedge]

And this is a naval invasion btw they have to plan something on the scale of Operation Overlord, that can’t go unnoticed

[indigo oracle]

Does Ukraine have any long range artillery?

[velvet trail]

Think they boututa tech 150s

[twilit sentinel]

i heard they moved some of it near kiev

dont know the specifics but thats what i saw

[wide hazel]

I can only find articles about him taking a nasal form of the vaccine

[toxic spade]

[wide hazel]

But I am on phone so it's kind of painful to search for things

[twilit sentinel]

he snorted coke

[balmy mantle]

Is Zelensky still in the capital ?

[topaz hedge]

Apparently yes

[wide hazel]

But apparently he also took the vaccine normally?

[misty vault]

Who knows

[twilit sentinel]

yeah he is

he was seen there this afternoon in military gear

[topaz hedge]

Wait who’s his second in charge

[wide hazel]

Yeah not quite the same as him claiming to have believed the vaccine to be a powder that you snort like crack

[twilit sentinel]

he cannot die that would screw the morale of ukraine so hard

[gaunt geyser]

They have been doing large scale exercices and passing laws to be able to take over civillian ships iirc

[topaz hedge]

So…piracy then

[cerulean spindle]

Super based though.

A president that joins the frontline? Biden better start taking notes. Lol

[gaunt geyser]

Nah, state requisition for the transport of landing vehicles

[mental haven]

Statesmen really shouldn’t be playing soldier in this age, but respect if he is

[topaz hedge]

Dude we need world leaders to fight on the frontlines like in the old days

[twilit sentinel]

i think its good hes boosting the morale there for sure

[topaz hedge]

That or a boxing ring

[wide hazel]

So he thinks that a vaccine that he personally approves was a powder after already having gotten the western import of the vaccine?

[twilit sentinel]

if i was a soldier and saw my leader with me i would feel real good about that

[cerulean spindle]

After he forced all men from 18 to 60 to not leave the country, it's the least he can do.

[topaz hedge]

All men? I thought I saw footage of some men with the Ukrainian refugees

[balmy mantle]

Doesn’t foxhole have a large Russian community ? I haven’t been able to find news about the Russian side of this.

[twilit sentinel]

yeah all men who are ukrainian nationals

im pretty sure those you saw are probably tourists

or immigrants

[topaz hedge]

Ah

[simple plover]

Where is 404 at they are the Russians right?

Or am I mixing them up

[wide hazel]

Population is already tiny so of course he wouldn't want them to leave

[wintry moss]

404 was in here earlier

[topaz hedge]

Pretty sure 404 is Russian

[wintry moss]

Said Putin was crazy

[cerulean spindle]

Imagine targeting russian community members instead of mister Putin.

[twilit sentinel]

they're going to go missing for saying that

[cerulean spindle]

How cringe is that?

[fair mortar]

404 have come in here and said they have no idea what was going on and putin is going insane. don’t harass people for their nationality when it’s the government you should be faulting

[simple plover]

Who's doin that?

[twilit sentinel]

kgb or whatever their secret police is

[cerulean spindle]

Yeah most Russians don't approve what Putin is doing.

[topaz hedge]

FSB

[simple plover]

I was just wondering wasn't harassing lol

[cerulean spindle]

They're either showing solidarity for victims or afraid that there will be retaliation from other countries.

[topaz hedge]

I mean if they did riot they just face arrest or death

[balmy mantle]

Remember the Russian paratroopers that didn’t know they were going to war until their boots hit Ukrainian soil?

[twilit sentinel]

this is just another example of authoritarians not being punished for doing whatever they want

[topaz hedge]

Remember this is a mad autocrat intent on keeping his power

[wintry moss]

Man that's sad to think of.

[twilit sentinel]

we've seen it in europe so many times even my home country

[topaz hedge]

wait I’ve heard that before

[wide hazel]

At least Putin is upfront about it not like that didn't happen during Vietnam

[runic urchin]

I thought it was a Recon group not a paratrooper unit?

[twilit sentinel]

didnt that recon group just fully surrender

to ukrainian forces

[balmy mantle]

The information is all jumbled. It could have been a school field trip for all we know right now. @runic urchin

[runic urchin]

Yeah I think that's the one that fully surrendered to Ukrainian forces because they had no idea that they were fighting there

[topaz hedge]

Leaving the country entirely works too

[twilit sentinel]

i think ive heard of other examples

and then the polar opposite of the mentally insane who brandish ussr flags

so disgusting honestly i cant even imagine swooping that low

[cerulean spindle]

Congratulations, everyone.

[vestal marlin]

Hey guys question

[cerulean spindle]

You're living through a possible major historical event.

[vestal marlin]

I heard VDV got clapped again at that airport

Is it true.

[topaz hedge]

To be frank we already have been since the beginning of this decade

[twilit sentinel]

i think the Ukrainians took it back for a bit but i imagine its gone again

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1497263852718858245?s=20&t=fGU1AANzfV5FSYBMS4aSYA

C O U P S U R E (@COUPSURE)

President Zelensky is in Kyiv

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presdient zelensky couple hours ago

[topaz hedge]

Btw who’s the VDV

[twilit sentinel]

russian army

[topaz hedge]

Ah

And ofc the Russian airforce would be VVS if I’m not wrong

[boreal dock]

To be honest after hearing threats from russia year from year that they could take capital of Latvia Riga in two hours, I hope that russians bleed a lot in Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine.

[balmy mantle]

I hope everyone gets to go home alive. There is no “just following orders” anymore.

[eager mural]

VDV are airborne troops

[twilit sentinel]

are they

i thought they were just the russian army as a whole

oh yeah it is

[runic urchin]

No because they were the airborne units that took the airport

[twilit sentinel]

my mistake

[cerulean spindle]

I thought that was a Filipino joke.

[eager mural]

operation market garden

[toxic spade]

Not susprised, eugh
Foxhole players am i right

[topaz hedge]

ahemMarketGarden

[boreal dock]

You ask it like russian comand vould care about there men lives.

[wide hazel]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727

[topaz hedge]

Cursed 21st century

[wide hazel]

Clown world

[twilit sentinel]

how is it i always see something about israel having connections to nazis

[topaz hedge]

Only clown man can guide us

[junior escarp]

That's 2018 tho

[wide hazel]

You think they stopped funding them since then?

[ebon walrus]

Heard azov are a particularly nasty bunch

[topaz hedge]

Who knows maybe Putin realised he’s done ducked up and pulls his forces out

[twilit sentinel]

is that 2800 infantry?

[topaz hedge]

Yup

[slim acorn]

Attrition

[twilit sentinel]

ive seen pictures of apparently spetsnaz dead and ukrainians posing with their asvals

[slim acorn]

On what platform?

[delicate dagger]

man of peace, you are

[twilit sentinel]

i can dm it to you

[wide hazel]

Aren't Russians like the master of it?

[fiery sierra]

indeed, everyone knows you don't stack troops beyond the supply limit during winter

[twilit sentinel]

i dont want to send it here its nsfl

[slim acorn]

Sure

[topaz hedge]

Only in Winter

[slim acorn]

I enjoy asvals

[junior escarp]

I can vouch they sell weapons to countries, not specific parts of their forces. Sadly ukatine did super support azov back then but they weren't the specific target of the sell

[topaz hedge]

Actually wait no it’s Winter in Ukraine isn’t it

[wide hazel]

Because in spring they push

[topaz hedge]

I’m sorry they what

[toxic spade]

Source
Sounds crazy

[twilit sentinel]

lol its going to happen wont it

[ebon walrus]

Probably a shipment going straight to the japanese ambassador with extra katanas

[balmy mantle]

Perl harbor part 2

[twilit sentinel]

ww3 is definitely going to start

[topaz hedge]

That or it’s anime bodypillows

[slim acorn]

Finland can take them

[balmy mantle]

Unrestricted submarine warfare part 2

[wide hazel]

Russia vs the world

[tiny cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURv4guxIcE

Oj Zelensky Zelenko

[topaz hedge]

And everyone is now fuming that they didn’t get their body pillows

[slim acorn]

Fair

[cerulean spindle]

What are even the conditions for a World War to start?

[twilit sentinel]

im not keen on it because i am in the draft range but its going to happen unfortunately if thats true

[cerulean spindle]

Does it have to be multiple countries?

[toxic spade]

Can someone send the meme with the ambassador

[junior escarp]

When they decide to call it that

[topaz hedge]

Two front war across two sides of the world?

[sinful fable]

If anyone from nato helps ukraine a world war will definitely start

[slim acorn]

^

[toxic spade]

When enough of the world takes a side in a ground war

[twilit sentinel]

well if russia hit neutral ships from nato

[cerulean spindle]

Several conflicts like today's happened and still happen today between two countries and they aren't called that.

[topaz hedge]

Does it tho?

[balmy mantle]

The title of a war is likely decided by who ever is left standing after it

[fiery sierra]

Need 50% world tension

[twilit sentinel]

turkey is definitely up for it

[crimson breach]

Yeahh.. i hate myself for that too…

[balmy mantle]

I.e the glorious revolution

[cerulean spindle]

That's already happening.

[fiery sierra]

They will just give weapns

[ebon walrus]

European countries fighting eachother lmao

[cerulean spindle]

They can't directly deploy their own forces.

[sinful fable]

Helps as in fights the russians

[ebon walrus]

Its a eurocentric name

[fiery sierra]

its different from directly intervening with troops

[crimson breach]

They have been sending aid for a while

[topaz hedge]

Honestly this

[cerulean spindle]

But they're allowed to "sell weaponry and help with training".

[sinful fable]

Yeah I don't mean that my bad

[crimson breach]

Ah np, I get it like boots on ground

[analog depot]

Private armies and Militia, you mean? No longer around, only Russia has such forces in Ukraine currently.

[topaz hedge]

Just change the name World War to Europe does a Fucky Wucky and this would be way more accurate

[crimson breach]

My mb

[toxic spade]

Did you guys know that historians had some problems with interviewing surviving ww2 gernan veterans because they knew the battles by different names

[slim acorn]

I wonder how long a modern world war would last

[analog depot]

Well, and Ukrain

[topaz hedge]

Ten minutes if you include the nukes

[sinful fable]

Not long with nukes

[slim acorn]

Without it

[twilit sentinel]

theres already a bunch of evidence of russia commiting war crimes

[analog depot]

Nukes wouldn't be used

[slim acorn]

If everyone wimps out and we stick to conventional warfare

[twilit sentinel]

the russian population isnt going to receive that well for sure

[sinful fable]

Not long either. It would be bloody with all the advancement in weaponry

[topaz hedge]

Who knows

[echo anchor]

Famous last words

[twilit sentinel]

considering how connected they are to the fellow slavic population in ukraine

[toxic spade]

We'll all go together when we go

[slim acorn]

Poetic

[twilit sentinel]

no one is going to drop nukes

[analog depot]

Wait wait I need to get the image

[sinful fable]

You think? I feel like putins the type of guy to just send those out like a letter

[fiery sierra]

It can be as short as days (see the various middle eastern wars) or longer if a total invasion of a major country is required

[twilit sentinel]

why would you be a leader when you have nothing to lead

[crimson breach]

Thats a kinda tragically hilarious thing but makes sense, the other fella isn’t gonna yell at me, “HEY WEVE BEEN CALLING THIS BATTLE X, HOW ABOUT YOU?”

[crimson breach]

Oh he definitely is

[analog depot]

He's not for fucks sake

[twilit sentinel]

he wouldnt nuke anything that is the dumbest decision ever

[sinful fable]

Okay! That's okay we can each think different things. No need to fight

[crimson breach]

If he feels like he is gonna lose power and country will be toppled?

[analog depot]

People thinking they know what they're talking about. THere's a lot more then just "Lul I got nuke and it goes boom, here you go!"

[twilit sentinel]

i mean the taliban arent fans of russia considering their history

[fiery sierra]

Man, if ukraine survives this, they should totaly fuck up moldova and belarus

[echo anchor]

No way

[twilit sentinel]

so im not surprised

[analog depot]

Other countries have nukes too. They are a deterrent from others firing their own or risk retaliation, and everybody loses from mass fallout

No. Nuke. Will. Be. Fired.

[topaz hedge]

The talibans aren’t a fan of of any woman who talks so I’m not surprised

[crimson breach]

Oh yeah obviously, but if his country starts crumbling and he sees he will lose power and all dear to him, I’m not as certain

[twilit sentinel]

the nuke talk is just pretty much comparing dick size

[echo anchor]

Don’t jinx it!!!!!

[twilit sentinel]

they'll never show it but will always say they are bigger

[sinful fable]

You're absolutely right. None of us know Putin personally, and none of us here are that high in the army to know much about what's going on in either side. We have no idea. These things are kept under wraps

[slim acorn]

Wait so that is how that works?!

Ooooooh.

[analog depot]

He's threatened small payloads of Thermonuclear devices if NATO or any other country invade his, yes. But then he puts his own people and country at extremely high risk.

[toxic spade]

Ikr

[topaz hedge]

Jokes on you I’m Putin’s psychologist

[hazy bone]

it's 6 hours ago
not very outdated tbh

[velvet trail]

I'm Putin's alt. I know everything.

[topaz hedge]

And according to my medical advice the man has been diagnosed with madness

[analog depot]

Putin might not be a good man in any single way. But he's not stupid.

[twilit sentinel]

think about this

if putin wants to nuke everything unless he launches them all by himself

[sinful fable]

We all have just about as much knowledge as everyone else watching the news

[twilit sentinel]

they wont go cause there is others who can intervene

[crimson breach]

Apparently it might be fine, I saw a report from a nuclear scientist in French news that it would be consistent with large amount of dust getting kicked up in the surroundings of Chernobyl (aka a lot of military vehicles passing and high activity)

[twilit sentinel]

atleast thats what i feel would happen

[crimson breach]

And not a breach*

[hazy bone]

welp, i mean
i have no idea where the rusia troops are
this is just last know imagine on where the fighting from the media

but good to know about that

[twilit sentinel]

ive seen so many people mention Chernobyl and what if they blow it up

idk its really astonishing to me thats a thought

[analog depot]

By the way, still fog of war going on, but Hostomel was take by Russian forces, however, was damaged in the fighting so can no longer be used. Not sure if that info got out to people

[toxic spade]

They would not

[sinful fable]

Made me sick to the stomach the other day reading the news about tough firefight at Chernobyl. Imagine all of the casualties.
And in the rest of this war. Lots of people who don't deserve this from both sides.

[toxic spade]

It'd be real bad for literally everyone

[twilit sentinel]

yes it would directly screw over the russians

and europe

[velvet trail]

There were reports a nuclear waste storage facility was hit but who the fuck knows anymore lol

[analog depot]

Old photo

[sinful fable]

Wait what? They're attacking Japanese now?

[twilit sentinel]

thats probably fake

[analog depot]

I mean video

[jovial loom]

I like how Russian forces are complaining about Ukraine firing artillery next to civilian areas….
When they fired artillery from the Chernobyl exclusion zone.

[velvet trail]

They've attacked Turkish, Japanese and Moldovan ships in the Black Sea atm

[twilit sentinel]

i know the finland threat is real

[topaz hedge]

That’s definitely more than a few holes

[crimson breach]

I did not know that, ty

[analog depot]

Fired from chernobyl exclusion zone? They fired into it as well

[sinful fable]

I didn't know this. What's the source?

[toxic spade]

Wonder if that was the idea

[topaz hedge]

No I think they just drove in when they were capturing it

[twilit sentinel]

yesterday at i think around 12 AM est a turkish warship was hit in the black sea

[hoary quiver]

Apparently Pornhub is blocking Russian users from using its site LMAO

[indigo oracle]

Lol

[crimson breach]

DAMM

[slim acorn]

However futile 🇫🇮

[analog depot]

Fake. Absolutely fake. There's only been a Turkish ship that was caught by accident, noone aboard and no casualties.

[toxic spade]

based

[topaz hedge]

Ok now the Russian people would be really angry

[twilit sentinel]

the president of turkey threatened total war versus the russians though

[indigo oracle]

Japan should send Mechas to Ukraine

[analog depot]

Reuters lmfao

[crimson breach]

Brudda being more effective than sanctions

[twilit sentinel]

i saw that was a thing

[analog depot]

Fake as fuck.

[jade badger]

The hero we needed to end the war

[analog depot]

Wait no, that one is real, but was a misfire

[twilit sentinel]

im pretty sure the japanese one is fake

[slim acorn]

Pornhub administration

[twilit sentinel]

yes i know that was a misfire but i heard that the turkish president is pissed

[analog depot]

Noone aboard, noone dead. So no intervention from NATO

[toxic spade]

*Red alert 3 music starts blasting*

[indigo oracle]

Tbh I wish Ukraine owned some sort of aircraft carrier so they could fight back a little bit

[analog depot]

Moldovan one is fake

[topaz hedge]

Imagine of all the reasons the Russian people would rise up and overthrow Putin was because Pornhub blocked them

Kids in future history classes would be doing a double take on this

[wintry moss]

Why have an aircraft carrier when you have no aircraft?

[crimson breach]

Nah man, fk that let’s get these people more fighter jets, javelins and stingers

[slim acorn]

Fuck, whyd you have to mention that…

[twilit sentinel]

it wasnt an aircraft carrier

[wintry moss]

Also they would probably be less safe out at sea.

[slim acorn]

I was drinking water

[twilit sentinel]

it was apparently either a freighter or a warship

[indigo oracle]

I mean countries could donate the jets lol

[topaz hedge]

[slim acorn]

Gods above! :(

[twilit sentinel]

who saw that thing about the ukrianian troops on snake island, what chads

[crimson breach]

We could…

[analog depot]

Yea "Ukraine says Russia shot at two Moldovan flagged chemical tankers" Yea fake.

There's A LOT of propaganda that isn't true

[indigo oracle]

Give them some high tech stuff

[twilit sentinel]

https://twitter.com/OneNationCon/status/1496993201940361229?s=20&t=OWpl6W2gOAaiBj6PgU31UQ

Volodymyr Zelenskyy Stan 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 (@OneNationCon)

I can't believe that this is real life https://t.co/DGtDR9IASy

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 11:39 PM

[vestal marlin]

https://twitter.com/YourAnonTV/status/1497273131567828992

Anonymous TV 🌐 (@YourAnonTV)

JUST IN: Hacktivist group #Anonymous has successfully breached and leaked the database of the Russian Ministry of Defence website | mil[.]ru |.

You can download all private data of the Russian MOD here: https://t.co/CsOVhkvCAD https://t.co/ueoG7xJgLV

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Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 6:11 PM

[velvet trail]

Ehh I can't remember where I originally saw, been reported a lot for a few hours, think there's supposed to be a Panamanian ship as well that's been caught by a missile

[crimson breach]

Dammmm

[indigo oracle]

I mean we gave taliban NVG’s KEKW

[sinful fable]

What do you people would reckon happen if Russia successfully takes Ukraine? Do you think Putin would target European countries to the west in NATO? Or avoid NATO countries?

[topaz hedge]

Based Anonymous

[analog depot]

🤦 They ain't doing jack besides taking down a few sights lol

[slim acorn]

That doesnt seem very real

Even if it is, doesnt seem effective yeah

[twilit sentinel]

i wouldnt be surprised if it was real i saw they took down all russian government and news sites

[indigo oracle]

@sinful fable tbh he could go after the countries to the south

[analog depot]

Probably is real, it's just names of soldiers, doesn't mean jack

[indigo oracle]

The stans

[velvet trail]

Definitely avoid, and get bogged down in guerilla resistance - I think they wanted to smash everything with that surprise mass assault yesterday morning but it didn't exactly go to plan

[wintry moss]

I don't think we'll let him "successfully take it" without joining in. If it gets bad enough we're in. Otherwise we let Ukranian's do some work with our supplies.

[vestal marlin]

too late now

[analog depot]

Anonymous really think they doing something. "Yes we shut down RT and another Russian media outlet!" Okay, they have far more you dolts.

[vestal marlin]

theyre still handing out firearms in Kyiv

[crimson breach]

Who works for the Russian ministry of defense and decides his professional email is dr_dim2000?

[wintry moss]

The best outcome is that Ukraine forces Russia to give up due to the invasion stalling.

[slim acorn]

Look where thats gotten them

[twilit sentinel]

i dont think they'll take it cause the russians are going too slow

[velvet trail]

Idk the Moldovan govt confirmed their ship I think, lots of reports about the others too

[twilit sentinel]

their country is really suffering in the process

[hoary quiver]

Apparently I was wrong and the pic I had seen that I thought confirmed it was just a age of consent thing for pornhub

Would have hilarious if true though

[topaz hedge]

Probably a gamer

[slim acorn]

I believe Ukraine can hold out in an attrition scenario longer, Russia’s momentum is mostly gone

[indigo oracle]

Kazakhstan Uzbek could be next unless they have Russian puppets already like Belarus

[twilit sentinel]

it is a puppet for sure

they have good ties to russia

[analog depot]

Not confirmed nor verified, only the Turkish ship has been.

[topaz hedge]

Putin is Belarus’ big daddy

[sinful fable]

I saw some news about 10,000 chechen warriors are ready to attack Ukraine. So I think they've just been testing waters until now

https://twitter.com/WW32022/status/1497220492851298352?t=csIhGjP7_VE65iJEH8AL8Q&s=19

WORLD WAR 3 - RUSSIA vs Ukraine #2022 (@WW32022)

Ramzan Kadyrov (Head of the Chechen Republic) ask Volodymyr Zelenskyy to apologise with #Putin, otherswise 10,000 Chechen warrior ready to attack on Ukraine. 🇷🇺🇺🇦

#RamzanKadyrov #ChechenRepublic #Zelenskyy #Putin #Russia #Ukraine #UkraineUnderAttack #RussiaInvadedUkraine https://t.co/hM5vqndBeY

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[twilit sentinel]

im not 100% sure on this but the turkish president is pissed off

[wintry moss]

I thought you said Chicken warriors.

[indigo oracle]

They can’t invade Baltics cause they are in nato iirc

[topaz hedge]

I dunno why I thought of that but given how Putin probably looks topless I wouldn’t be surprised

[sinful fable]

Not sure how legit the source is thougg

[velvet trail]

Might go sink a few myself just to get things going 💪

[slim acorn]

apologize for what exactly?

[velvet trail]

Was reports a few hours in about Chechen groups on both sides engaging one another too

[indigo oracle]

Chechen’s? Great

[wintry moss]

Existing

[slim acorn]

Being better fighters?

[topaz hedge]

Making better jokes than Putin

[analog depot]

NATO won't go into war for Moldova, they're neutral status and not apart of NATO

[hoary quiver]

For apologize for acting in Ukraine’s interests

[velvet trail]

Yaha

[slim acorn]

Ukraine, youd better apologize for being Ukraine, Ukraine.

[twilit sentinel]

so many Ukrainians are being displaced it looks really similar to kosovo

[indigo oracle]

Can you Imagine Taliban in Ukraine fighting Chechnians

[twilit sentinel]

in a sense

[toxic spade]

So you were in pornhub this whole time?

[hazy bone]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/25/council-of-europe-suspends-russia-over-ukraine-invasion-a76600

[twilit sentinel]

also how is russia still on the UN

[slim acorn]

Moscow times

[hoary quiver]

Pornhubs the best news site in the world

[twilit sentinel]

how are they not gone

[slim acorn]

Unconfirmed source

[last nebula]

Always have been

[indigo oracle]

Cause they are a main member

[slim acorn]

What is it exactly?

[analog depot]

Not only apart of the UN, they're president of the UNSC

[slim acorn]

a forum?

[indigo oracle]

Its like kicking France out

[twilit sentinel]

well can't they just ya know

[hazy bone]

from 2 media
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/just-in-council-of-europe-suspends-russias-membership-amid-ukraine-invasion/a-60908297

[last nebula]

It's a hub

[indigo oracle]

U can’t do it

[twilit sentinel]

kick them out what damage would it do

[hoary quiver]

No

[topaz hedge]

Because if we did remove them from diplomatic talking then they have no reason to stall out the fighting

[slim acorn]

Understandable

[hoary quiver]

I just sall it on Twitter

[twilit sentinel]

but they have no intention to stop

there appears to be none atleast

[analog depot]

Putin doesn't want to talk diplomatically, he's made that much very clear

[topaz hedge]

Also Russia, or at least it’s predecessor was a founding member of the UN too

[twilit sentinel]

alright im done stalling work

slava ukrainia. albania and kosovo stands with ukraine

[indigo oracle]

@haughty pivot have you met any Georgians?

[wide hazel]

He said he would after Ukraine surrenders

Lol

[wintry moss]

I just had the sick realization that they would be fighting with American weapons.

[limber vault]

At front or just as people?

[analog depot]

Exactly, and that's not happening.

[regal fjord]

What's the current status of Kyiv etc? Barely got 5 hours of sleep

[analog depot]

Putin knows it, Ukraine knows it.

[indigo oracle]

@wintry moss “Bruh this shit is so good”

[wide hazel]

Yet to be found out

[indigo oracle]

@wintry moss “This shit doesn’t jam every five seconds”

[toxic spade]

Good morning

[analog depot]

Ukraine won't surrender lol, 13 guys literally told a warship to fuck itself

[indigo oracle]

@haughty pivot oh

[analog depot]

I doubt they'd give up their home country.

[toxic spade]

Rip

[indigo oracle]

Most people wouldn’t

[boreal dock]

In capital city of Latvia, Rīga people are singing both in latvian an in ukrainian right before russian embasy.
Fight well our brithers in arms.

[tranquil kestrel]

any more info on this madlad?

[topaz hedge]

Rest in piece Snake Island your defiance won’t be forgotten

[limber vault]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-right-breaking-bad-gif-14029087

[boreal dock]

Slava ukrania

[wintry moss]

The idea of being Russian is so appalling the 13 guys on the island would rather be shelled to death.

[sinful fable]

I love their bravery, it shows how far they would go to defend their home.

Rest in peace

[topaz hedge]

A memorial needs to be on that island

[wintry moss]

Imagine the memorial just being big letters of "Go fuck yourself" and every ship coming into port sees it.

[slim acorn]

Multiple people probably

[limber vault]

People there are toughest motherfuckers I ever seen, I'm surprised they didn't push back

[twilit sentinel]

the ghost of kiev probably isnt real

[slim acorn]

Combination of aircraft and anti-air

[twilit sentinel]

but it makes for good propaganda

[echo anchor]

Make sure the “go fuck yourself” is in the Kremlin’s direction.

[indigo oracle]

Tbh I hate that Belarus is just allowing its land to be a staging point. They don’t have that much of a choice because of the dictatorship but still

[slim acorn]

Ghost is like the collective of their air and anti air forces

[tiny cliff]

A fake scam by some scumfuck

[slim acorn]

A symbol of Ukrainian aerial might

[analog depot]

Puppet state, what'd you expect

[twilit sentinel]

authoritarian puppet number 1

[indigo oracle]

@analog depot Belarus should be getting the same sanctions as Russia honestly

[wide hazel]

It's literally just an extension of russia

[twilit sentinel]

onto what economy

[indigo oracle]

LMAO TRUE

[twilit sentinel]

belarus has no economy

[slim acorn]

But what if theyre lying? Whats the source?

[wide hazel]

Really doesn't make sense for Belarus to be independent other than for the sole reason of creating a neutral buffer between Poland

[twilit sentinel]

thats kind of what it is though

[echo anchor]

Wikipedia isn’t a 100% valid platform

[indigo oracle]

Can Russia Anex Ukraine?

Could*

[topaz hedge]

Real question is can they hold it

[analog depot]

Well Kyiv power outage at Independence square

[indigo oracle]

True

[topaz hedge]

And if they can’t what consequences lie for them if they have to pull out

[sinful fable]

We should wait until stuff appears on news outlets before they're confirmed legitimate sources

[analog depot]

News outlet is full of fake videos and propaganda too, even most of them don't know what's real

[slim acorn]

Taking a grain of salt even for news outlets of course

[analog depot]

Welcome to the fog of war.

[sinful fable]

I'm talking about BBC News

That should be the most reliable, no?

[analog depot]

BBC won't know either, half of what they're saying isn't onfirmed

[twilit sentinel]

not really

no one knows we just have some rough idea through the scraps of social media

[slim acorn]

The logical thing to do is to look for consistent facts between news outlets and social media from all sides

[twilit sentinel]

saw some thing where a civilian and soldier were executed by russian forces

[wide hazel]

Lol imagine sailing your ship into an active war zone and then being surprised when it gets hit

[sinful fable]

You're 100% right. This.

[analog depot]

Nothing is reliable when there's a fog of war, you have to dig around yourself, find multiple reports and evidence of claims, and it's tricky with so much crap in the way.

[indigo oracle]

@haughty pivot Do you have an AK or got an M4 just curious

[mental haven]

Why are so many cameras offline in the Kyiv feeds? Crews turning in for the night?

[limber vault]

If only you knew people that could phone virtually to any front and ask

[topaz hedge]

Power probs went out

[mental haven]

There’s still one online

[indigo oracle]

@mental haven Nah they’ve been on every night

[mental haven]

Watching Sophia church

[indigo oracle]

Oh

[fading dove]

It will take years untill the ordinary person has enough information to understand the current events in detail

[slim acorn]

They provide ammunition?

[twilit sentinel]

no

just the gun

[mental haven]

I think watching the live cams puts you ahead of everyone else in that regard

[sinful fable]

The russians gibe you ammunition to fight against them? Huh?

[analog depot]

Power outage. Which leads me to believe Russia control the nearby hydro-electric power plant

[limber vault]

Everyone I saw had an AK

[twilit sentinel]

i think this can be one of the most documented wars of all time because of social media

[topaz hedge]

Foxhole training 101: loot ammo from dead bodies.

As grim as that sentiment is now

[wide hazel]

Given the circumstances the Russians really haven't caused too many casualties given the densely population areas they are invading

[indigo oracle]

@sinful fable I think he means killing them lol

[sinful fable]

Oh right

[slim acorn]

Ah, yeah I didnt think of that

[fading dove]

Only for that small field of view

[indigo oracle]

And taking the ammo

[analog depot]

Yea Kakhova WAS taken. Makes sense why Kyiv is facing a power outage

[sinful fable]

It's sad all around

[toxic spade]

Fuck that's unironically what's happening now isnt it

[twilit sentinel]

OK i need to stop stalling this

[cerulean spindle]

People still using AK-47s??

[analog depot]

Sorry, Kakhova power plant. And that'd make sense too

[sinful fable]

Sorry, you're in Ukraine right now? Right?

[limber vault]

It was taken and retaken multiple times at this point lol

[cerulean spindle]

I thought more modern weapons would be deployed.

[slim acorn]

Well apollo was talking about them scavenging asvals off spetznaz

Its literally tarkov out there I guess

[fiery sierra]

Good luck man, stay safe

[sinful fable]

Oh wow. I hope you stay safe.
I've a colleague in the West somewhere

[topaz hedge]

Well Ukraine does use Russian equipment presumably left over from the collapse of the USSR as well as a few new ones iirc

[slim acorn]

Good fortune, may the gods protect

[wide hazel]

Against civilians who had ample time to evacuate and are now being armed with guns and molotovs?

[limber vault]

Lol, which part of Kiev?

[cerulean spindle]

Like the AK-74 or 101.

[analog depot]

That guy in the car was alive by the way, and quite well considering he'd just been crushed.... twice.

[hazy bone]

stay safe man
You need need a lot of luck

[sinful fable]

That's terrifying

[limber vault]

Oh, you're with 101, or territorials?

[topaz hedge]

And also that’s a Ukrainian SPAA

[sinful fable]

Aren't you in Ukraine too?

[wide hazel]

So then why are they still there

[limber vault]

I am

[sinful fable]

What part?

[indigo oracle]

irl Leroy Jenkins

[analog depot]

Russians pushed out of Obolon?

[ebon walrus]

Im still not used to it being spelled kyiv lol

[cerulean spindle]

@haughty pivot You an Ukranian male over 18 and below 60?

[topaz hedge]

Kharkiv

[sinful fable]

You've probably seen some grim things.
You two should come over to the UK can I'll make you a chicken soup 🥘

[limber vault]

I got taken to the Bila Tserkva region, plan was to reinforce south, but at this point it might very well change

[indigo oracle]

Tbh I wish I could go volunteer:(((

[ebon walrus]

I dont lol, im fine with my cushy safe lifestyle

[sinful fable]

Ah, right. Have you considered joining the army after this? Has it changed your perspective much?

[boreal dock]

Stay strong and fight well.

[indigo oracle]

Knee is fucked sadly lol

[tranquil kestrel]

make sure not to disclose any information of your location or movement

[sinful fable]

You can help in many ways there isnt just a frontline!

[ebon walrus]

Im far too much of a coward to be a combatant haha

[indigo oracle]

I’d be useless :DDD

[limber vault]

Dunno, I heard the explosions in 24 and knew that shit got real

[slim acorn]

…Can I also come for some chicken soup?

[sinful fable]

Sure! 😄

[cerulean spindle]

Dude there's so many Foxhole cross-references I can make. Probably not the right time to do it though.

[slim acorn]

:3

[slim acorn]

Not an appropriate time, yes

[sinful fable]

It's a scary time right now. Just try and stay hydrated and well

[analog depot]

I just wanna say: Jesus Christ the US RQ-4's have an insane amount of flight time.

[jovial loom]

W a t a r

[analog depot]

Drone in the black sea has finally changed to a new one, so that circling WAS legitimate.

[slim acorn]

I have no initiative

Dang

[sinful fable]

Sorry to hear. I'm here to chat if you need to vent or anything.
I'm here to chat to anyone if they want any support. Although I've not experienced this firsthand I'm happy to try and help

And try to donate if you can to reliable ukraine donation places

[wide hazel]

@edgy aspen like you do realize that from the Russian perspective they are fighting fellow Russians

[sinful fable]

What else do you think we can do to help?

[limber vault]

I don't think we need support at this point, we kinda got dull after first 24 hours

[analog depot]

No, they're fighting Ukrainians. They know who they're fighting, there's a lot more deep seated hate from a few Russians too.

[sinful fable]

Well it's not bad to over-support

[echo anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_JSrkFWknI

[boreal dock]

Monday after military exrecise in home will send all surplus equipment with some extra clothes i have.

[limber vault]

Send carrier plates to Ukraine

We'll need them

[wide hazel]

I think it was some 97% voted in favor for crimea to be reintegrated

[sinful fable]

That's good!

[analog depot]

Okay but where is the Antanov-225

[sinful fable]

Sorry I'm not too bright. What's a carrier plate?

[analog depot]

If it's coming from Russia you know it's false numbers, look at the vast amount of protesters currently

[wide hazel]

Right because the West has never used proganda before

[limber vault]

Bulletproof vest probably will be more familiar

[analog depot]

Never said they haven't? Don't bring up other issues that don't pertain to the current war.

[sinful fable]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Russian soldiers get signed up to the army to serve against their will. Sorta like what NK does

[wide hazel]

I think the situation is a lot more complicated

[analog depot]

That's just pathetic.

[analog depot]

@regal fjord Knows better on this one

[karmic ether]

Shit is getting serious

[sinful fable]

Ah yes! I don't have my own! But let me see if there is any supplier with those things

[karmic ether]

Turkey Air Forces are going to Poland

[wide hazel]

They do it in Finland and a few other European countries as well. It's also illegal not to sign up for the draft in the states

[wide hazel]

Military service is usually required in countries with a really low population

[slim acorn]

Id imagine its pretty much impossible to lie about age in a draft anymore right?

Asking for a friend

[sinful fable]

Part of me thinks this is a great thing, but part of me thinks it's not

[wide hazel]

Feel free to correct me

[karmic ether]

Royal Air Force is also in Poland

[wintry moss]

Nato has activated it's QRF (Almost the name for it) and I'm sure they are preparing others. Turkey is one of the Largest military wise.

Activated as in prepared. Not sending in.

[karmic ether]

Also there was some explosions in the nuclear reactor in Chernobyl

[limber vault]

QRF against what?

[sinful fable]

More NATO troops are getting prepared close to Ukraine. So this can get messy

[limber vault]

Bs

[regal fjord]

Its a combination of things. There are conscripts, who are, technically, forbidden by russian law from being deployed outside of their country (they serve one year) - conscription is mandatory for all males up to age of 30 unless you enroll in a government university. And then there are contract troops, who are paid career soldiers like everywhere else.
There have been confirmed russian conscripts in Ukraine, however, and apparently a big number of soldiers were forced to sign the contract against their will, while a good portion was told they were being deployed to military exercises up until the last second

[analog depot]

NATO won't go in unless an ally is attacked or public outcry reaches a vast majority

[sinful fable]

Thank you for making it clear! Learning new things everyday!

[trail zealot]

NATO won't do fuck all as long as russia has veto powers lmao

[wide hazel]

This. Not Russia exclusively people are just looking for reasons to hate Russians

[analog depot]

UN =/= NATO. Russia is not apart of NATO

[wide hazel]

It's okay when other countries do it but not russia it seems

[karmic ether]

Say it again bet you won’t

[trail zealot]

Oh whoops
Never mind then lol

[sinful fable]

I still think it's wrong that in Ukraine they're asking just men between 18 and 60 to stay, and not women as well. What are peoples opinion on this? And for people who know more about this subject, are the Women who want to fight and defend their country able to volunteer to aswell?

[slim acorn]

≠

[limber vault]

NEAR power plant, not in reactor

[topaz hedge]

Can’t imagine how bummed out some guy musta been when he thought he would be back home in March after the military exercise

[regal fjord]

Its the classic "demonize the foe" stunt that is as old as dirt. Similarly to how every single german soldier in WW2 was baby-eating nazi, apparently

[analog depot]

No, it's okay when they do it correctly and actually have a valid reason. There is no valid reason to invade Ukraine.

[slim acorn]

Homestuck reference?

[hazy bone]

NATO is Defensive pact not part of UN

[karmic ether]

Check the radiation charts too, there’s a spike in gamma rays

[jovial loom]

Location is stated in Kyiv.

[hazy bone]

russian security council Veto dont do anything outside of UN

[karmic ether]

that’s where the message is coming from

[sinful fable]

Aw no.. is it okay if I ask the question again cause it got hidden with messages? I'm curious

[wide hazel]

Whats the correct way?

[jovial loom]

Then why is the message stated right over a Kiev Power-plant.

[analog depot]

In saying what I did. I don't agree with a lot of invasions done by the US especially when they leave it extremely unstable instead of ensuring a government is set up from the people without interjection from military. Their job is security until that time.

[slim acorn]

Its impossible

[karmic ether]

The Chernobyl power plant and the Kiev power plant are having spikes specially Chernobyl

But i bet it’s just because of the Russians taking the crew hostage

[tender rock]

I mean it's better for the children to at least have one of their parents left, and mens are more used to war/stronger generally speaking

[wide hazel]

Like when the US got pissy that a portion of Ukraine actually wanted to reintegrate through democratic means so they sanctioned Russia off and then blamed their military on the border for influencing it?

[analog depot]

Oh I don't know, actually stopping oppressive regimes and genocidal maniacs? You know the Kurds are actually grateful that Saddam Hussein was stopped right? There's others crying out for help.

The only ones crying for help in Ukraine are Pro-Russian seperatists who believe that Ukraine should be intergrated back into Russia.

[limber vault]

You probably didn't know, but as far as I know it stopped working in 2001

[sinful fable]

😶

[karmic ether]

Nope

It still works

if it didn’t work then there shouldn’t have been workers there

[toxic spade]

if it's not reactor 4 we neednt worry

[wide hazel]

Yeah as it turns out some 30% of the population speaks russian

[analog depot]

And on top of all this. You need to stop going on about shit that doesn't pertain to the Ukraine - Russia crisis. If you seriously think what's happening is okay cause "other countries do it" You have some serious problems that need addressing.

[sinful fable]

I agree with having one parent to care for the child. But that should be a decision they can make between the two of them

[regal fjord]

Kakhovka assault drowned

[echo anchor]

I never thought I’d see whataboutisms being used to justify Russian propaganda…

[wide hazel]

Russia's draft doesn't pretain to their invasion of ukraine?

[simple plover]

women can get the guns they are giving out i believe, there was a picture of one atleast i saw

[analog depot]

🤦 You're going on about Western countries doing the same, where the fuck did you pull this one from?

[regal fjord]

Draft happens twice every year?

[sinful fable]

Oh! Good! That's great to hear!

[karmic ether]

I heard that there was a certain group killing Russians in Ukraine back in 2015, Russia had ask for support but they didn’t listen

[wide hazel]

In russia?

[regal fjord]

Yes?

[mental haven]

If there’s one casualty of this war I support it’s azov battalion

[wide hazel]

Not sure

[karmic ether]

And I’m pretty sure NATO wants to annex Ukraine to put their weapons

[analog depot]

Are we seriously bringing up other issues right now which don't pertain to Russia vs Ukraine.

Pretty fucking pathetic and a lack of empathy.

[sinful fable]

Do you think NK would do anything during this.?

[wide hazel]

Are you Ukrainian? Why are you so emotional

[regal fjord]

What do you mean not sure. Conscripts are drafted twice every year, in the spring and in the autumn

[mental haven]

North Korea? It’s unlikely

[regal fjord]

Its not something that happens before an invasion

[wide hazel]

I would be too if I were Ukrainian

[analog depot]

Okay why do you care so little about the war that you're bringing up other topics which happened in the past and can be discussed another time? Ukraine is happening right now.

[toxic spade]

they thought you were asking a question, lmao

[wide hazel]

I'm just trying to bring in an outsiders perspective on the whole ordeal

[tender rock]

True, but they probably don't have the time to consider this, saying men have to stay to fight is just easier.. Plus if women want to fight I imagine they are more then welcomed

[limber vault]

I am, wanna talk shit can do it to me

[karmic ether]

We must learn from the past too

[vestal marlin]

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1497304135963750405

Conflict News (@Conflicts)

BREAKING: Russian troops have stopped near the northeast city of Konotop after suffering heavy losses during a fight, Ukraine's land forces said. - @Reuters

Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 8:14 PM

[regal fjord]

Ah, hard to translate tone into text

[analog depot]

I am an outsider and you're doing absolutely nothing to help by trying to compare this war to others.

[mental haven]

Is Konotop still holding out?

[ebon walrus]

Honestly comparing this to the US invasion of Iraq is essentially calling Ukraine the equivalent of saddam husseins iraq

[vestal marlin]

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1497304135963750405

Conflict News (@Conflicts)

BREAKING: Russian troops have stopped near the northeast city of Konotop after suffering heavy losses during a fight, Ukraine's land forces said. - @Reuters

Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 8:14 PM

[ebon walrus]

Which seems wildly off the mark

[analog depot]

You've also tried Justifying the Russian invasion of Ukraine saying "Other countries did it, why is it different".

[mental haven]

I’m with my GF right now so I can’t keep updates on the situation

[analog depot]

How fucked in the head can you actually be.

[wide hazel]

Nice strawman

[ebon walrus]

But hey, what do i know, im just biased 😉

[wide hazel]

I never justified the invasion

[analog depot]

#general-discussion message

Don't need to strawman when you said it fucktard.

[mental haven]

I would keep the arguments out of here, so we can focus on the conflict and such

[wintry moss]

NATO has some forces that are stationed to be able to respond quickly, they responded and are now positioned in Poland and other areas. The 82nd Airborne is one from the US.

However they aren't off to war (just yet)

[indigo oracle]

Imaging justifying an invasion of any country.

[analog depot]

#general-discussion message

[wide hazel]

People are just biting into the propaganda though

[analog depot]

This as well.

[limber vault]

And they won't be

[ebon walrus]

Watch the ad hominems

[wintry moss]

I don't have to justify my invasion of your mom.

[karmic ether]

Shut the fuck all of you

[analog depot]

So you assume "I'm just biting into propaganda". Now that's a strawman.

[toxic spade]

nooo muh CPUs

[limber vault]

Freedom of speech bitch

[karmic ether]

Russia's on the UN sec council, not NATO

[wide hazel]

I did not specify you

[indigo oracle]

Does Ukraine have drones?

[karmic ether]

In times of war your freedom of speech will be limited

yeah

[sinful fable]

I expect so

[trail zealot]

Lmao how many times am i gonna get this same message

Nice of yall to correct me tho

[karmic ether]

UN is just fake hope

[wintry moss]

I hope both ways that they are and aren't. An escalation can be scary, but if you guys can stop the Russian's without direction intervention that's a huge win that avoid (potential) nuclear war.

[indigo oracle]

Oh nice

[karmic ether]

The UN isn't militarily relevant in this context

[ebon walrus]

Its actually part of the league of nations not the UN

[limber vault]

Actually it proven otherwise, never seen officers so chill

[karmic ether]

-_-

[ebon walrus]

Dont you dare miken face me

[wintry moss]

I'm thinking if it seems bad enough NATO is stepping in regardless with whatever justification they can drum up.

[regal fjord]

https://twitter.com/RuslanLeviev/status/1497216201616936964
Z if this is correct should stand for Western Military Region, V for Eastern Military Region, △ for Southern Military Region, and / for the Central military region. So Z marked troops are the cream de la cream, and △, / and V marked troops are the lower quality ones in progressive order.
In that case Zs are most likely assaulting the priority targets

Руслан Левиев (@RuslanLeviev)

Z — ЗВО (ZVO), V — ВВО (VVO), △ — ЮВО, / — скорее всего ЦВО.
Зорро больше не Зорро.

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Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 2:25 PM

[limber vault]

Honestly we just need stuff to fight with

[karmic ether]

Thank you

[proven stump]

Got it, on it

[waxen monolith]

i hear theres more AA on the way

[wintry moss]

Seems like we're willing to start sending tons of it. So have fun with it when it gets there.

[proven stump]

Getting harder and harder to see whats real and whats faked

[analog depot]

This would explain a lot of videos showing the Z vehicles actually, whilst the others are not seen so often, where the fighting happening isn't getting much attention

[karmic ether]

Ukraine has been given enough javelins

[indigo oracle]

Equipment is nice. But eventually the Russians would win with higher manpower right ?

[karmic ether]

No wonder they’re doing kinda aight in the war

[wide hazel]

@analog depot the entire situation is one giant shit show and I don't think it's fair to put the entirety of the blame on one singly country

[analog depot]

Yes but we're talking about Russian vehicles

[karmic ether]

it all depends on the tactics they use

[limber vault]

When it gets to border we'll already kick them out with boots and shovels

[analog depot]

Ohhh so we're blaming who exactly for FUCKING INVADING ANOTHER COUNTRY?

That is the uttermost bullshit I've ever seen to justify actions of Putin

Get the fuck out of here.

[waxen monolith]

just blame putin and the oligarchs there the ones making the calls not the russian people

[indigo oracle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eWpjUOLR0w Ukraine needs some of these tbh

[wide hazel]

If you had been following since 2014 it would make a lot more sense. This has been brewing for a long time. Don't act so surprised

[proven stump]

^ lmao wtf

[sinful fable]

Let's not argue. We don't know much as outsiders

[analog depot]

Yea pretty much but he's trying to bring other countries into it and blame others, he's literally justifying the invasion.

[regal fjord]

If we start drafting reservists, i.e. I'm given AK and sent from Vladivostok to Ukrain, then yes. Otherwise manpower is comparatively similar. Ukraine is the closest peer adversary Russia has that isnt Finland or in NATO in the Europe

[limber vault]

I'm sorry, how many people between age of 18 and 60 willing to fight Ukraine has?

[analog depot]

No shit sherlock, and guess who started it with the annextion of Crimea after being the only country to "acknowledge" the state of independence they were after

[proven stump]

With this logic lets invade mexico

[waxen monolith]

there pretext is flakey

not a good justification by any means

[analog depot]

Stop trying to project blame onto other countries who didn't get involved. "Oh but NATO!" Stfu. NATO wasn't doing jackshit around the borders until 2014 when the crisis actually began.

They have allies to protect and where fighting is ongoing, of course they're going to set up shit to protect their allies, it's called a defensive pact for a reason. You don't just sit idly by and let it happen without ensuring the safety of your allies.

[boreal dock]

In that case i hope you will do the right thing and switch sides as soon as possible and fight to stop occupation of Ukraine.

[sinful fable]

Hey pipe it down people! I know it's tense but please, the last thing we need is to argue, the news is already stressing out alot of people so don't make it worse.

[regal fjord]

I don't believe in afterlife, so I will simply desert

[boreal dock]

Atleast 500k with combat experiance in reserve.

[analog depot]

Sorry, but I won't let a Russian bot come in and try spread misinformation and bullshit about how other countries are at fault. Putin and his Oligarchs are. And noone should make that mistake.

[regal fjord]

Immoral as it may sound, I value my life over the life of a random dude in Ukraine. All the best to them, ofc, but I am my own priority

[karmic ether]

Remember, manpower isn’t always everything, it all depends on the tactics the Russians and Ukrainians use

[proven stump]

I dont really like arguing but Ciwi does have a point

[sinful fable]

Okay! That's fine. Just calm it down though

[limber vault]

Plus around the same amount without experience

[proven stump]

I sitll agree of course Amy

[toxic spade]

what will you do if you get called up

[mental haven]

Russians have had a long time to perfect their strategies, I’m like 90% sure Ukraine is part of some larger operation

Speculation though

[waxen monolith]

there actual reason is god knows what Ukraine deposes Russian puppet regime, Russia annexes Crimea and sponsors separatists, things brew the new democratic Ukraine draws closer to the west likely in large part due to the aggression russia showed by Crimea this scares putin who decides to invade Ukraine to try and stop the perceived threat of NATO. The big disconnect here is that the west and russia sees NATO as very seperate things for the West NATO is defence from agression to Russia its seen as a source of it. Some things like this just happen

[blissful citrus]

Opinions on russia moving Topol-M somewhere? I call bigass bluff. (Can't confirm the source)

[proven stump]

I have the same footage different angle, was told it was fake

[limber vault]

Well, so far Russians suicided their airborne units very good XD

[blissful citrus]

can you send it to me via PM please @proven stump

[regal fjord]

I will only get called up in the case of full scale mobilization of every able-bodied man, otherwise I'm "not suited for military service" end quote.

[boreal dock]

Its fine, just dont fight in ocupation force.

[proven stump]

yes one moment

Send it

*Sent

[analog depot]

Putin has a way of saying roundabout things, don't believe what you hear about it. Make no mistake, Putin has been planning this for 22 years. He's always wanted to bring back the USSR. That's also why some Russian armour is flying the old USSR flag as well.

[karmic ether]

I mean... all men 18-60 is a massive number sure, but this war is progressing rapidly and involves tons of modern and semi-modern equipment which has the potential to negate manpower in certain cases. This is a very hazy situation and we'll just have to see how it progresses as spectators. Good luck to all you poor gents on the ground.

[blissful citrus]

@sterile halo exactly

[proven stump]

If the ICBM stories are true, I'd bet my money on a deterrent aimed at Finland and Sweden joining Nato

[karmic ether]

Keep in mind that everything we're hearing is still largely unconfirmed. Both sides have a bias and most of the stuff we're seeing has been cherrypicked.

[sinful fable]

Yes. This.

[proven stump]

Agreed

[hazy bone]

agreed

[boreal dock]

True, but its slso true that defending is a lot easyer than attaching.

[analog depot]

More or less though, with Ukraine currently, seems his plan is to make it a West and East Ukraine. Like they did with Germany. West can keep it's independence, whilst East will be Russian controlled.

[waxen monolith]

i dont jump to conclusions i merely see what i said as being atleast one possible wider justification not that i think a war based on fear of a proposed threat is actually a reasonable reason in fact i think the effects of it completely contradict its purpose but who knows

[karmic ether]

So far we don’t know the true casualties of the Ukrainians

Or Russians

or civilian casualties

[north aspen]

Not universally true

[proven stump]

One thing I will say, the Ukrainian president for no prior political background is doing grand

[sinful fable]

It's a high number though unfortunately.

[north aspen]

Defending can oftentimes be easier than attacking, but attackers certainly have certain advantages

[analog depot]

I mean besides Island nations, not true at all anymore. It used to be before modern equipment.

[boreal dock]

I dont mind it xD

[ebon walrus]

Are you certain

[north aspen]

Yes

certainly certain

[toxic spade]

what the hell is he saying

[analog depot]

Oh god is Putin really gonna do an actual winter war 2?

[toxic spade]

the politicianspeak is too thick for me

[analog depot]

He does know the Finnish are no push over right?

[proven stump]

hes basically saying:
Finnish, Swedish, go nato? get nuked

[indigo oracle]

Lmao he’s crazy

[karmic ether]

We sure that's real?

[analog depot]

Dude that would literally start a world war on Russia alone.

[dark sable]

Jumanji блять づまぶいぢおち

[proven stump]

If they dont join Nato they go to war, if they join Nato they go to war

[earnest vine]

I think he is just going to make a puppet government

[indigo oracle]

@sterile halo LOL

[karmic ether]

Ok

[analog depot]

He won't nuke jack shit outside of his own country

[karmic ether]

This is concerning
because the Finnish people want to join

[uneven monolith]

we do indeed.

[proven stump]

Yes it would, but they've certainly made threats using nuclear annhiliation before and will continue to

[uneven monolith]

this whole conflict pushed finland closer to nato

[karmic ether]

Supporting NATO is a golden ticket to election

[boreal dock]

Yee, not always, but in general. You can get attack vs defense like 10:1 casuality rate and still defend well. It depends on positions, air supprt, air defense, and no nukes.

[proven stump]

It would be a stupid decision not to join, theres a possibility of a war anyway and if Finland/Sweden doesn't join than they have one ally, each other.

[toxic spade]

it's coming

the long awaited sequel

[karmic ether]

Russian won't try to invade Finland I don't think, but atm both sides are flexing muscles

[analog depot]

They have done so with defensive threats, and have said anyone trying to invade THEIR land is when he'll use them. Using a nuke as a threat of attack will cause some serious issues the world over. Because it means he can and will do it at any time. Putin isn't stupid, he understands the risk of an aggressive nuke so doesn't threaten them

[analog kernel]

I do not consider that the russians have an intention of leaving eastern ukraine

[analog depot]

Well yes that's what I said lol

[analog kernel]

Based on what they said in their amphibious assaults, which was telling ukranian soldier/navymen to quit and join the russian navy, it seems they intend on annexation of the east

[karmic ether]

Kyiv under heavy bombardment

[analog kernel]

and south

[proven stump]

Thats also true, I didn't take that into account.

[analog depot]

He's after control of the Eastern regions of Ukraine, whilst leaving the Western regions independent

[karmic ether]

What this fellow said.

They don't want to reset the clock and wait for another popular uprising. They want a more permanent solution.

[earnest vine]

Rn?

[analog depot]

Sirens going off

[proven stump]

God bless their souls

[regal fjord]

Blue on Blue in Ukraine, location unclear. Territory Defence and National Guard engaged Ukrainian police, 5 dead, unknown amount of injured

[karmic ether]

damn

[earnest vine]

This is crazy scary from a Pole perspective

[analog depot]

Oof

[toxic spade]

oh man

[indigo oracle]

Oof

[karmic ether]

It's more than an "oof" gents

[analog depot]

Wasn't a matter of if though, only when. Harder to tell friendlies from enemies in this day and age, especially with similar equipment

[fickle bone]

Wait, are they shooting thier own?

[karmic ether]

accidentally

[fickle cliff]

News Bois

Aside from pornhub being down in Russia

[proven stump]

Yes, Russians seem to have a habit of doing that themselves

[boreal dock]

Accidents do happen

[hazy bone]

accident

[karmic ether]

Poor bastards

[fickle cliff]

I can’t confirm yet, but Ukrainian forces have somehow managed to destroy russian airbases

[karmic ether]

?

[proven stump]

That or deserting, many don't want to fight in this war and I can't really blame them. Fighting a country which you probably have relatives in must suck

[fickle cliff]

And their using grad missiles

[analog depot]

Reminds me of the US convoy that started shooting at a patrol in Afghanistan. About 30 minutes to an hour being shot at by their own, no radio signal, no way to say "we're friendlies".

[proven stump]

I wish I had a notebook for keeping down warcrimes going on

[fickle cliff]

Also, and take this one with a grain of salt, ICBMs are supposedly being moved around in Moscow

[regal fjord]

Keep in mind, Territory Defense at this point is mainly civilians urgently issued weapons. I expect will see more BnB involving them in the coming hours

[proven stump]

Heard it, I have a video fo an ICBM being transported atm

[dark sable]

XD

[boreal dock]

Heard that russian amo depa was destroyed to. Looks like Ukrainians are launching rockets back to russia to.

[proven stump]

Lmao

[slim acorn]

Return to sender

[proven stump]

LMAO

[slim acorn]

Air blast ‘em

[karmic ether]

No confirmation on the ICBM on the liveuamap

[analog depot]

Sounds about right, a lot of Ukrainian heavy equipment hasn't even been moved or used yet

[dark sable]

Rip Russia has no airbase left. Nowhere to land and take off. If only...

[fickle cliff]

Can you send it to me?

[analog depot]

Hostomel was damaged, they tried bringing troops over again but turned around mid flight again

[proven stump]

Of course one moment

[dark sable]

... If only they had thousands more around the continent

[proven stump]

Sent

[boreal dock]

Sweet, lest attacks on Ukrainian positions from air.

[analog depot]

Logistics is a bitch when you're flying from further away

[dark sable]

I'm a certified msfs player too thanks

[fading dove]

Can you link source?

if its english

[boreal dock]

Longer flight times, more hours on engines, more time to fuck up, less time in Ukrainian airspace.

[dark sable]

Don't they have carriers all around the shores

[regal fjord]

https://twitter.com/CaoYi_MFA/status/1497173887414685698?s=20&t=3dTz-6Mmk5bCgHRwWXPZIQ chinese are trying to seat on two chairs at the same time, blocking business with russian banks while doing this

曹 毅 CAO Yi أبو وسيم (@CaoYi_MFA)

On Dec. 16, 2021, the United Nations tabled a resolution that called for “combating glorification of Nazism." The only nations to vote against it were the United States and Ukraine. https://t.co/CHQXKmqdo1

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Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 11:37 AM

[proven stump]

I'm pretty impressed with the Ukrainian hold out. I dont doubt they Russian troops are pretty morale broken considering they're fighting what they'd considered to be a country similar to their own which they most likely have family in

[analog depot]

Can't get through with majority of their ships + no plane that does logistics + troop deployment is light enough for a carrier (besides their helicopters)

[ebon walrus]

Chinese foreign policy has it hard rn, its a balancing act for em

[dark sable]

I do my logistics through Amazon thanx

[fickle cliff]

Denazification is the stupidest reason I’ve ever heard

[ebon walrus]

Although im not sure why they dont just say nothing

[analog kernel]

people are demanding they say something bubba

[boreal dock]

It isnt, but it limits russian options for attacks and logi, so its good in my book.

[analog kernel]

ukranian ambassador demanding their response

silence will be seen as taking a side, too

[ebon walrus]

They are adept at ignoring people when they want to haha

[proven stump]

The Russian soldiers are human as well, most of them don't want to do this I'd bet. I'd blame it more on politics and leaders than everyday man

[analog depot]

Mmm the whole training exercise thing though is a lie. That's literally the basic story told when doing SERE's training. To say you were doing a military exercise first. Can't be sure if the Russian troops actually did believe it or not, but more then likely a lie.

[dark sable]

Then they should shoot themselves the moment they take a civilian life

[twilit sentinel]

the chinese are in the weirdest position ever they support russia but dont want to ruin their standing

[analog depot]

I don't agree with death in either way, but I'd rather the Russian troops over the Ukrainian troops and civvies tbh

[wide hazel]

well if you poke a bear enough it'll eventually wake up

[dark sable]

Whatever that proves

[proven stump]

With how much those missile barrages killed they'd be down an army, I hold no glorification for the Russian army with whats going on because its all fucked up, just trying to see them as human, as difficult as its becoming

[toxic spade]

Yeah, russia has way more neo nazi sentiment than ukraine
Flimsy casus beli, very flimsy

[hoary quiver]

There was no casus beli for this war

[wide hazel]

it's not a war

[blissful citrus]

@wide hazel you don't wanna start chacing these pictures because ruskis will lose it when it comes to swastikas

[mental haven]

Oh hey look, it’s the guys that represent the entire nation of Ukraine!

[dark sable]

Ukraine is fascist 10000000% confirmed!!! 1!one

[limber vault]

I just sneezed so hard, my ribs made a sound similar to when you crack your knuckles

[proven stump]

Both size have bad people in them, but when it comes to a full on Invasion its clear whos the bad guy

[wide hazel]

I only posted it because suddenly everyone thinks Russia is more Nazi than Ukraine

[dark sable]

Is that supposed to be Scottish flag xd

[analog depot]

"It's not a war". Okay hotshot, what would you call an invasion of military personnel into another country that then fights back with military personnel?

[fluid cairn]

whats happened in ukraine in the past 12 hours, someone get me up to speed, i was workin

[mental haven]

Russia and Ukraine both have way too many nazis. We should get rid of every nazi. Ukraine didn’t deserve to get invaded for a very small group

[wide hazel]

a conflict

[analog depot]

🤦

[proven stump]

Russian Nationalist Flag, big group in russia who seem to really like their enemies in ww2

[analog depot]

You're an idiot

[hoary quiver]

https://twitter.com/caucasuswar/status/1497306630026936327?s=12

Oh oh again

[proven stump]

Sorry, Union*

[wide hazel]

it's not a war until official declared

lmao how old are you?

[analog depot]

It WAS declared you moron

[mental haven]

It’s literally a war?

[limber vault]

They call it an operation focused on demilitarisation of Ukraine

[proven stump]

in that case theres only been 5-6 wars in human history

but billions of conflicts

[toxic spade]

A duck

[proven stump]

I agree

[jolly peak]

Hence why Colonials bad

[mental haven]

There’s no war in Ukraine guys, it’s just an air soft battle!!!!

[proven stump]

Amen

[wide hazel]

Vietnam isn't considered a war so I'm not sure why what I said about Ukraine is so farfetched

[mental haven]

GUYS it’s just a big air soft battle!! Go home!!

[jolly peak]

Still am one, but I think the Wardens are cooler

[proven stump]

In all fairness, it was smart on Russias part to declare war but not declare war, by skirting the guidelines they quite literally are able to do a majority of things that'd be otherwise illegal for wars. Dont think this includes warcrimes however

[toxic spade]

Vietnam very much was a war

[wide hazel]

I am going by the dictionary definition of war

[fluid cairn]

"vietnam war"

[fading dove]

its called vietnam war

[proven stump]

vietnam small conflict*

[fading dove]

wtf are you talking about

[proven stump]

Sarcasm intended

[fluid cairn]

vietnam peaceful conflict

[toxic spade]

Dictionaries are not the golden standard

[wide hazel]

that's the name not the definition

[proven stump]

There was no war in vietnam

https://tenor.com/view/nowarinbasingse-atla-avatar-the-last-gif-18401680

[analog depot]

Man do you guys remember that Conflict 2.0? And Conflict 1.0? Can't have been a world war, not all countries declared war!

[mental haven]

There is no War in Ukraine.

[blissful citrus]

Don't they only show battles from eastern ukraine on russian TV? Telling ppl that they're there only to liberate and defend separatists and their own people..and no russians have been killed?

[analog depot]

That is how stupid it is to try state "It's not a war".

[twilit sentinel]

i remember the civil conflict in the united states

[proven stump]

Cant confirm but https://twitter.com/YourAnonTV/status/1497273131567828992

Anonymous TV 🌐 (@YourAnonTV)

JUST IN: Hacktivist group #Anonymous has successfully breached and leaked the database of the Russian Ministry of Defence website | mil[.]ru |.

You can download all private data of the Russian MOD here: https://t.co/CsOVhkvCAD https://t.co/ueoG7xJgLV

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Twitter · Feb 25, 2022, 6:11 PM

[dark sable]

Gotta update your conflict, too many bugs

[wide hazel]

I don't make the rules I'm just telling you them

[proven stump]

Declarations of war mean certain rules, I can't be sure but I think that includes Warcrimes

[wide hazel]

it is dumb

[mental haven]

Skelly more like Smelly

[analog depot]

No, you are making up rules as you go along. So just be quiet.

[fluid cairn]

who wants to hack russians government emails with me

[wide hazel]

childish behavior

[proven stump]

Nvm for warcrimes:

Elements of the Crime
As a result, and in contrast to the crimes of genocide and crimes against humanity, war crimes must always take place in the context of an armed conflict, either international or non-international.

So yeah theres still been warcrimes

[mental haven]

Believing this conflict is NOT a war is childish

[wide hazel]

I'm sorry I'm not contributing to the Ukrainian echo chamber

[hazy bone]

jesus fucking christ
calm down people

[analog depot]

Says the one trying to start arguments whilst trying to justify Russias invasion.

Like honestly get the fuck out of here bot.

[wide hazel]

straw manning again

[mental haven]

“Ukrainian echo chamber” we’ve literally denounced Ukrainian BS aswell

[boreal dock]

Guys Ukrainians have bank account where we can send them some money to hep them in this war. Im on phone but im shure someone can post source.

[wide hazel]

keku

[proven stump]

Couldn't be me its me

[analog depot]

Don't need to strawman when you literally tried blaming anyone else but Putin for this war. And it is a war idiot.

[mental haven]

No one here is listening to the propaganda either side is spouting

Atleast not in here

[wide hazel]

I never did I'm just telling you it's not as black and white as you're trying to make it out to be

[hazy bone]

lmao

[proven stump]

Least im honest about it, I'm doing my best to stay away from it, mostly here to just talk about it

[analog depot]

And have you been here the entire time we've been discussing it? Didn't think so, so honestly? Shut ya trap cause you're doing the same shit

[toxic spade]

Imagine if non english chat still existed

[fluid cairn]

youre all braindead