general-discussion

[crimson breach]

Firing into a city like Kiev with artillery

[fathom sinew]

No?

[fading dove]

russians couldn't care less about crimes

[hybrid tide]

no, as long as they can justify it by saying theyre aiming at military targets

[hazy bone]

nope

[hybrid tide]

even though its clear theyre not just attacking military targets, they can still say they are

[mental haven]

Russians have been shelling indiscriminately for acouple hours. Technically not a war crime, however.

[fathom sinew]

And it's a smart location for it, any attempt at counter fire risks hitting the reactor and screwing everyone over

[red slate]

A piece of shit move

[lapis ember]

Morning

[crimson breach]

It’s def a piece of shit move

[crimson breach]

Good morning, Chernobyl is gone, pancakes for breakfast?

[lapis ember]

Aye, thanks

[crimson breach]

(Sorry had too)

[lapis ember]

Wait have they already lost Chernobyl? Last I heard they were fighting over it

[toxic spade]

yep

[lapis ember]

Oof

[crimson breach]

Yep, now the Russians are using it as an artillery position apparently

[fathom sinew]

It was probably a main target for Russia to secure

[lapis ember]

Yuo see Ivan
If we shoot artilery from Chernobyl
No need use tactical nukes
For shell will already be radioactive

[flat nexus]

man this whole situation is one hell of a mess

[lapis ember]

Based

[crimson breach]

Yeaaa

[red slate]

The Russians at Chernobyl better fucking hope Ukraine doesn't decide to hit the reactor again and give them ARS.

[lapis herald]

a nuclear spillover to top it all off

[flat nexus]

welp guess that shitpost i post is too much lol joke aside wonder how long this whole mess gonna last

[lapis ember]

Two weeks tops

[alpine vessel]

Big brain

[mental haven]

this mess will likely last a while

[lapis ember]

Not counting potential Ukrainian trolling, or as we call it, “Partisan”

[mental haven]

for the rest of your lifetime, for example

[hybrid tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/897527861949366282/946441482846498826/InShot_20220224_125034275.mp4

[flat nexus]

part of me expect this meme lol

[digital elm]

who is von klaus

[red slate]

Is he gonna lead a Banzai charge?

[crimson breach]

God damm, partisans have never been bigger potential heroes

[mental haven]

the last samurai

[sinful fable]

https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1496899290425434117?t=D9S2_lCXwaVFvTwfjyZ84Q&s=19

CaucasusWarReport (@Caucasuswar)

Right now, unidentified fighter jets over Kiev, Ukraine. https://t.co/KfhXKRJn3B

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 5:26 PM

[lapis ember]

Yep

[sinful fable]

Right this second fighter jets

[hybrid tide]

doesnt sound like fighter jets

[lapis ember]

Hoping all our Ukraine bros learned how to do good partisan here in Foxhole

[hybrid tide]

sounds significantly slower

[crimson breach]

Yeaaah Boris …. That doesn’t sound like you are motivated, you need to god dam do more and seize oligarchs assets

[drowsy quail]

How long do you think Ukraine will last?

[sinful fable]

I've got the livestream up of the maidan square

[lapis ember]

Tho On the same coin, Russians have also been doing QRF here for a while

[hybrid tide]

also there was Mig-29s and Su-25s

[crimson breach]

Russians?

[lapis ember]

A week, maybe two

[hybrid tide]

the same ukrainian mig29 shot down at least 2 su-25s 💀

mf on his ace combat pack

[crimson breach]

Legend

[red slate]

At least they can destroy dams.

[hybrid tide]

he probably landed, took four shots of vodka, banged two prostitutes, and then went right back up to shoot the second su-25

[fickle bone]

They specified the oligarchs here

[flat nexus]

let hope the russian not gonna pull belka on him

[crimson breach]

How many?

[fickle bone]

No idea

[crimson breach]

All of them including abramovitch?

[fickle bone]

Hope so

[crimson breach]

Boris better god dam seize those assets, he can use it for a diamond studded unicorn for all I care but he better do it fast

[hybrid tide]

"You are in complete isolation, in a weapons strike zone. If you resist, you will be destroyed. The chances of survival are zero. Think about your children and loved ones who need you, who love you and are waiting for you at home alive and well. Soon it will be over and you will go on with your life as usual. Make the right decision - stay alive. All you have to do is lay down your arms.”

-Russian Message too Ukrainian Forces.

[toxic spade]

to my knowledge, 12

[fickle bone]

That doesn't seem like many

But I'm not too informed on the financial assets

[toxic spade]

oh actually, that number is wrong, it's 35

[crimson breach]

Wait…

[red slate]

This makes me glad the West is doing fucking nothing to stop this...

[crimson breach]

Is that the ALREADY sanctioned ones?

The ones that are already on the list from ages ago that he promised he’d add to?

[toxic spade]

not sure

[alpine vessel]

real evidence? looks like tiwtter/facebook

cant imagine

[runic ledge]

stalker anomaly in real life

[fickle bone]

Even so, could be a play to try to bring in the west to help

[mental haven]

chances are the russians were shelling indiscriminately and hit some hospitals by accident

still fucked up

i have a feeling they dont really give a shit what they hit

[hybrid tide]

russia is getting pounded so hard that theyre suing for peace

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1496901857125580809

Conflict News (@Conflicts)

BREAKING: Russia ready to negotiate with Ukraine - Kremlin.

Russia demands that Ukraine refuse to allow any weapons to be deployed in the country and guarantee that they will remain neutral (not join NATO).

https://t.co/rHN0uwU2ud

Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 5:36 PM

[toxic spade]

refuse to allow any weapons
now where have i heard that before..

[red slate]

Source is RT. hmmmm.

[lapis herald]

RT would never lie to us dude

[mental haven]

RT is completely unbiased! They would NEVER do anything to discredit journalism

[hybrid tide]

rt is literally russian biased

[mental haven]

my dad owns RT, he told me!

[hybrid tide]

why would they report on something that makes russia look weak

[red slate]

It would make Ukraine look unreasonable.

[short berry]

We all own RT comrade!

[hybrid tide]

it is still making russia look weak, so i dont doubt its true

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1496792071008813060

Reuters (@Reuters)

Ukraine's Zelenskiy calls on citizens to fight, promises weapons https://t.co/E9p7tKw4tV https://t.co/6UxegKrAuo

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 10:20 AM

interesting.

[true salmon]

Calling on your enemy to surrender is a common tactic, I wouldn't say it makes Russia look weak

If they play it right internally there's a chance they can make their citizens belief that Ukraine is being unreasonable and harming their own citizens more than Russia is

[mental haven]

I hate propaganda campaigns,

[delicate dagger]

politics boring

[true salmon]

Welcome to war

[runic ledge]

does anybody have a map of Ukraine as of the Russian invasion ?

[red slate]

I must say, I now hate Russians more than Canadians.

[delicate dagger]

show me the big boom vods

[worldly plaza]

why tho

[balmy mantle]

I figured this would be the best place for updates

[worldly plaza]

not to provoke but, what did the /Russians/ do to you?

[true salmon]

Russia is doing a pretty good job at keeping maps crashing repeatedly

[runic ledge]

know a link?

[red slate]

Ukrainian

[balmy mantle]

The real question is what did Canadians do

[sinful fable]

Mb

[hard bane]

So how is the war going?

[red slate]

They're too polite.

[worldly plaza]

TG channels are good at giving updates fast, if you know where to find the good ones. it's just about cross-checking that information against other media afterwards.

[thorn fulcrum]

they know they're unacceptable terms so that they can further justify their war in their own country

[true salmon]

There's some twitter folks who are also keeping up well

Just need to cross check them because misinformation is a game, and russia plays it well

[hybrid tide]

https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1496900576319320067

EndGameWW3 (@EndGameWW3)

Update: Russian Ministry of Defense: "We have achieved all the military goals planned for today"

Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 5:31 PM

[balmy mantle]

For today?

[mental haven]

seems the outcome is not quite clear yet.

Senseless deaths, propaganda, the usual

[hybrid tide]

russians getting slammed, ukrainians getting slammed, belarusians getting slammed

[balmy mantle]

I hope Ukraine can solve it themselves

I’m in the draft range

[true salmon]

A tactic I could see Russia pulling is halting their advance at whatever their goal location is, asking for Ukraine's surrender, and then taking over more when Ukraine "unreasonably" says no

[red slate]

I believe him honestly.

[thorn fulcrum]

yeah what the germans done during the brest litovsk treaty negotiations

[red slate]

Issue is, stopping the advance gives Ukraine a chance to dig in.

[true salmon]

Ehhhh, at some level it doesn't matter how dug in Ukraine is

[runic ledge]

what the fuck happens if artillery fire strikes the chernobyl reactor

[worldly plaza]

I'd agree there.

Sure, winning an hour is great.

[true salmon]

Especially how dug in their troops can become in what, 12-24 hours?

[red slate]

Skill Issue happens

[restive vapor]

Guys this stuff is actually pretty upsetting

[delicate dagger]

it opens, and spills moderate level rads for a while until they close it again

[hazy bone]

https://youtu.be/OQNJX1X8rwc
Some news regarding politic situation if you guys interested

[red slate]

What the fuck was that guy firing at.

[restive vapor]

No fucking clue

[true salmon]

vehicle in the street maybe?

[runic ledge]

bro it’s just a gam- oh oh wait shit

[restive vapor]

Russians clearly are very indiscriminate

[hybrid tide]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/russia-deploys-mobile-crematorium-follow-troops-battle/

[restive vapor]

Ive got more

[runic ledge]

the feckers

[red slate]

Tankies are in shambles rn at least

[delicate dagger]

bruh i was watchin that

[runic ledge]

was that video gore

[restive vapor]

Who tf deleted that

[runic ledge]

where it go

[restive vapor]

No zero gore in it

[fathom sinew]

Better not to

[runic ledge]

can you dm it to me 😃

[restive vapor]

It has no gore

[restive vapor]

Jesus christ what am I doing wrong bro

[true salmon]

If something gets deleted, please don't immediately repost it.

[hybrid tide]

ukrainian tank

[red slate]

Wonder why Biden delayed his remarks by a whole hour.

[restive vapor]

Nap time

[fickle bone]

New information likely

[kindred cloud]

or hes tired

[fickle bone]

So his writers can write his speech

[raw leaf]

Hmm, we need this in foxhole

[true salmon]

Probably something related to the Article 4 debates

[kindred cloud]

I mean his reaction to this will define US foreign policy. If he screws it up, yikes

[restive vapor]

Any of you guys seen this picture yet? Probably will be the most famous of the war

[runic ledge]

not as impressive as uh

what you’d expect

just some Slavic man running at unseen speed

[hybrid tide]

yeah its not very strong

[red slate]

To nobody's surprise, Russia is arresting anti war protesters in Moscow RN.

[fickle bone]

He only appears for that one frame

[runic ledge]

there is so much anti Russian propaganda where I live

[hybrid tide]

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-02-24/PLA-urges-Taiwan-separatists-to-stop-provocation-17USBL1j48E/index.html

perhaps the sideshow will rise too

[runic ledge]

I am half russian but I haven’t got any hate yet

[true salmon]

as a warning CGTN is heavily controlled by the Chinese government

as are basically all of China's homegrown news organizations.

[restive vapor]

This cant be real

[hybrid tide]

well, CGTN is literally state media, so..

id assume as much

[ruby hamlet]

if you are not Putin or military person its ok

[raw leaf]

I doupt every soldier is ok with this. Orders are orders tho…

[ruby hamlet]

They can refuse to kill us

[keen saddle]

no

they really cant

[boreal dock]

Just following orders didnt end well for germans

[fickle bone]

They can

[ruby hamlet]

some russians did

[fickle bone]

Just there is repercussions

[twin lagoon]

but will they really?

[raw leaf]

Wow. World waars solved by this man. Of course they can’t simply “stop”

[ruby hamlet]

they refused to cross border

[red slate]

I'm gonna say something that will piss off every Russian.

The T-34 was a shit tank

[raw leaf]

Depends how you look at it

it was revolutionary

[runic ledge]

yep

[hybrid tide]

purported original russian attack plan

[runic ledge]

slanted armour

[fickle bone]

It was easy to build

Decent weapon

[junior escarp]

It was just easy to mass produce

[red slate]

Because of Sloped Armor? Sloped armor was a thing in WW1 tanks.

[runic ledge]

have any of you heard of azov?

[raw leaf]

Yeah, because you are obviousñy a russian general and this is totally veridic

[junior escarp]

Sure German armor was better but when outnumbered 10:1?

[raw leaf]

Wrong. WW1 tanks werent even made to fight other tanks

[runic ledge]

lol

[raw leaf]

It was god when it wasn’t broken …

[hybrid tide]

when did azov use child soldiers

[toxic spade]

you forgot the grandma

[red slate]

Slanted Armor

[runic ledge]

my apologies

nah that armour ain’t slanted

[toxic spade]

Ryder, not this again

[runic ledge]

you cannot possibly tell me this armour is slanted enough or even has enough slanted faces

[hybrid tide]

that is very clearly slanted lol

[runic ledge]

that’s a door my friend

[hybrid tide]

its... still slanted

[raw leaf]

That wasn’t created with the intent of bouncing more. It was made to make it cheaper. Also, the armor in that thing is a joke. T34 revolutinized tanks because it was cheap, had actually good sloped armor and was fast. Ww1 tanks werent made to fight tanks, so there is no comoarison

[pallid kestrel]

🙈 I see no slant I see no argument

[hybrid tide]

itd be just as easy to make a vertical door

[runic ledge]

and the slant on the front isn’t at a good enough angle

[hybrid tide]

its still slanted

[runic ledge]

bro is a door gonna block shit?

[hybrid tide]

probably not enough to do anything, but you said there is no slant

when there is in fact a slant

[runic ledge]

but there are more flat faces

[fickle bone]

There is a slant, but no slanted armour

[runic ledge]

and the tracks are comically wide you could easily put a shot through them

[hybrid tide]

i do not disagree

[raw leaf]

This tank revolutionized tanks, but for an entirely different reason

[balmy mantle]

Where does all this leave NATO?

[toxic spade]

can we go back to talking about azov
feel like it's a bit poignant

[runic ledge]

in a pile of shit, I’ve seen ukranian soldiers with American guns but no foreign soldiers

[raw leaf]

Looking like dumbasses crying because russia ignored sanctions, waaaaaaa 😭😭😭

[true salmon]

making decisions

[runic ledge]

lol the video on youtube about it

[misty vault]

Phoney war

[pallid kestrel]

You know, canons and high caliber guns precede tanks. You can make an armored vehicle made to survive both machine gun an indirect artillery.

[runic ledge]

step 1. no cigarette

[fickle bone]

The same place it was during the falklands

[indigo oracle]

Anyone see anything on TikTok

[true salmon]

They called a debate per Article 4, which is about whether any of their territories, independence, or security is threatened.

[indigo oracle]

I don’t really see anything on SC

[red slate]

Being exposed as toothless and confirming that yes, as long as you got nukes and you aren't attacking a NATO country, you can do whatever the hell you want.

[pallid kestrel]

Although, during the falklands conflict, no one invaded any countries mainland

[earnest shell]

Argentina didn't have nukes.

[runic ledge]

[indigo oracle]

I should download it lol

[balmy mantle]

Does nato have any defense pacts with Ukraine?

[toxic spade]

did you guys see boris' statement

[dusty hemlock]

no

[indigo oracle]

@runic ledge what

[hazy bone]

severe sanction atm
since Ukraine isnt part of NATO ( A defensive pact only) and unwillingness to get involved on the crisis
but can when absolutely necessary

[runic ledge]

I think certain countries do?

[raw leaf]

What? What does this have to do with this?

[runic ledge]

fuck boris

what

[toxic spade]

UN is debating which shade of blue helmet to issue today

[fickle bone]

Oof

[hazy bone]

Nope only partnership

[formal bloom]

They’ll be issuing warden blue and collie green

Putin when seeing the silverhands have been deployed

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[runic ledge]

it’s either annexed ukraine or some sort of treaty

[pallid kestrel]

... Tanks may have not been created to fight other tanks. But armour needed to take into account cannons anyway. Slanted armor serves well vs cannons.

[indigo oracle]

Russians took Chernobyl right

[worldly plaza]

Supposedly, yeah.

[crimson bolt]

According to media

[harsh wigeon]

yea but what does that mean

[toxic spade]

supposedly been using it to launch arty

[dusty hemlock]

the UNs job is to be the table not any else

[indigo oracle]

irl storm cannon base

[worldly plaza]

At the very least, they can fire from there without having to fear any artillery retaliation.

[indigo oracle]

^

[raw leaf]

Anyways, my pont stands. Ww1 sloped armor had entirely different design purposes and effectivness that the revolutionary t34‘s sloped armor

[harsh wigeon]

ok ty

[balmy mantle]

Russia is on the security counsel

[indigo oracle]

If you shoot at them you are kicking up radiation

[toxic spade]

the UN has summoned an emergency meeting to decide the table's shade of blue, ocean blue or sky blue

[fickle bone]

Tanks weren't even designed to tank artillery. They were designed to push trench lines back

[balmy mantle]

So blue Barry may not move

[pallid kestrel]

I know

[dusty hemlock]

if u think the un should be helping ukriane u dont now the role that the un plays

[harsh wigeon]

do you guys think that if russia takes ukraine will putin is going to invade other countries?

[runic ledge]

I would rather them take it then the battle continue

[thorny comet]

Yep

[harsh wigeon]

(sorry for bad english)

[runic ledge]

high risk

[balmy mantle]

I’m more worried about China and Taiwan

[fickle bone]

It would be nice for NATO to do the job it was formed for

[runic ledge]

bro those two mfs have hated each other since the start of time

[thorny comet]

They do this every two weeks. If China does anything, the US has to get involved

[worldly plaza]

The role of the UN is not to defend a particular country but to bridge the gap between nations.

The main issue is people are expecting the UN to fix issues from the top. That’s not how it works in a world that has very different definitions across the globe.

[runic ledge]

it’s irrelevant compared to the conflict in ukraine

[dusty hemlock]

thats what i was saying

[worldly plaza]

Oh, alright, my bad if I misunderstood you. Not aimed at you then.

I misread, ye.

Count it as a reply supporting your statement.

[toxic spade]

they're jokes, you guys

c'mon, brighten up
it's only the biggest european conflict since the last war

[runic ledge]

BBC News: ‘intelligence reports that an invasion is imminent in 48 hours, but similar claims have been made to no result’

jinx

[pallid kestrel]

It really wan't, people decided against using such sloped armour due to it being absolutely restrictive for the crew. And that showed in all aspects of crew performance. Many decided for a more boxy shape and less sloped armour, even after the T-34 came up. It has too many drawbacks. The fact that it was easy to make or produced can also be said about the Sherman and that can be given to the US indrustrial power, just like the Soviet industrial power.

[runic ledge]

but the t-34 was god damn effective

and modelled the future for tanks

[raw leaf]

^

[runic ledge]

tell me any square tanks nowadays?

[pallid kestrel]

Moderns tanks angles are more about reducing their verticality, every gun has a million armor pen these days

[fickle bone]

The killdozer

Debatable if it counts tho

[restive vapor]

Just saw a video of like, 4 destroyed russian tanks with a dead guy on the road

[runic ledge]

man are you on vore websites

[uneven monolith]

the creater of the T-34 died becuase the exact tnak did not have heating

[red slate]

Pretty sure I saw that too. Had a tank turret blown off too?

[runic ledge]

lol I like how Russians act like tanks are albums their creators go on tours

[uneven monolith]

exaclty

[kindred cloud]

https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1496910434401619969?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1496910780046151682|twgr^|twcon^s2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fliveupdate%2F18hnzysb1elcs%2FLiveUpdate_d3021b7e-959e-11ec-9720-964963728f91%2F0

Alec Luhn (@ASLuhn)

Leaving Pushkin, we saw small groups of protesters around downtown Moscow, some briefly chanting "no to war" before police find them. 523+ arrested. But probably not more than a few thousand came out in a city of 15 million. There's no speech without fear now. (Vid @AvtozakLIVE) https://t.co/uyWs5Uaolx

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 6:10 PM

[delicate dagger]

4 new occupied beds on the gulag

[mental haven]

Putin is a piss baby

[kindred cloud]

oh fuck

[mental haven]

NO

The battle is already lost 😞

[restive vapor]

IFunny actually

[hazy bone]

Ukraine is a loss cause

crisis is over boys

[boreal dock]

Now the night fighting starts, glory to Ukraine.

[red slate]

We are fucking spineless
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/biden-team-will-hold-off-on-russia-sanctions-hitting-aluminum

[restive vapor]

sorry Dyno

[raw leaf]

Hmmm, pus#ies. On the other hand makes sense, but pus#ies nontheless

[restive vapor]

Biden are you a moron?

[dusty hemlock]

still better than my country (uk)

[fickle bone]

America is too concerned with international opinion

[mental haven]

Fucking hell, what an idiot

[fickle bone]

I would have to disagree

[red slate]

Biden knows he can't do actual hard hitting sanctions since it will hurt the economy, and with the mid terms coming up...

[mental haven]

Worried more about his own election than peoples lives

[restive vapor]

Politicians only care about the votes man

[fickle bone]

America in a nut shell

[dusty hemlock]

redditors at heart

[raw leaf]

Not really. If alluminium goes up, everyone will suffer. For example, germany is still buying russian gas. They can’t stop or it would be a national blackout with many ded

[restive vapor]

lmfao

[cerulean spindle]

Biden playing safe.

[crimson breach]

Nah, he’s right, y’all need to seize all the oligarchs wealth in London, it’s their favorite hidey hole cause the uk government doesn’t act on them.
Do with the wealth what you want, we don’t don’t care

[cerulean spindle]

Lol

[red slate]

Everyone NEEDS to suffer. We gotta pull our own teeth so Russia becomes so poor it's impossible for them to wage war.

[indigo spade]

Oh fuck, the American aren't going to come

[cerulean spindle]

Guess what. War is costly and greatly impacts the economy.

[waxen monolith]

Sucks to be them they should have chosen a more sensible energy policy decade's ago

[raw leaf]

That doesn’t work like that and you know it

[cerulean spindle]

I won't say what should or should not be done but damn.

[raw leaf]

True

[red slate]

Come on, it's not like they shut down a bunch of nuclear reactors a decade ago.

Oh wait

[boreal dock]

Honestly at this point I hope putin is gettin assasinated by one of his own

[hybrid tide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t0fe8n/combat_near_the_chernobyl_nuclear_power_plant/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[crimson breach]

Yup, people kept shutting on us French for making too many reactors, oooohh noooo, and now look, 50 years later leading Europe in energy independence and green

[kindred cloud]

biden literally lifted sanctions on russia early into his presidency

[crimson breach]

Sh*tting

[toxic spade]

didnt we try that with germany, didnt it bite us in the ass two decades later

[fiery sierra]

keep in mind the french almost went the same path in shutting down theirs...Macron just reversed his stance recently

[red slate]

Appeasement happened

[crimson breach]

Nah, y’a French were petty AFTER the war and did unnecessarily dumb things

[crimson breach]

Not really, 80%of our energy is nuclear and the rest is mainly hydro

[alpine vessel]

ayo that jet just fired a rocket over their house?

[red slate]

Man, it's almost like nuclear is the only real viable solution because Solar and Wind aren't reliable 24/7 and batteries able to power cities aren't really practical.

[crimson breach]

The question was diversifying our energy more heavily into other green energy

[fiery sierra]

yep, nuclear is the future.

[crimson breach]

Or investment in nuclear

[fiery sierra]

Macron was going to move away from nuclear. Wasn't it one of his campain stances? let me look

[flat nexus]

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1496905869983768581?t=ixy_tuHBj7-nE-m-0aEI4Q&s=19

Ragıp Soylu (@ragipsoylu)

Look at the size of anti-war protestors in St Petersburg, Russia. Wow https://t.co/dHg9Uwt9RQ

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Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 5:52 PM

[crimson breach]

No, he kinda wanted us to make more varied reactors like the European reactor and mini reactors

The one we selling to Poland and uk

(I believe uk right?)

Not sure on them

[toxic spade]

and would probably happen again

[alpine vessel]

Not much combat

[fiery sierra]

there are so many new designs and technology in nuclear power

[crimson breach]

Yeah the tempting thing is to try many designs but it’s a sugar coated trap

[hybrid tide]

theyre playing hardbass over a military frequency lmfao

[fiery sierra]

no, my point is the old reactors arent the only way. You can make safer reactors now

[alpine vessel]

SheeeeeSShhh

[crimson breach]

We do, we renovated many of our older ones when they were in use to standards

[fiery sierra]

fukushima really messed us all up

[crimson breach]

Yeah

[crimson breach]

It was a mistake to build a reactor there

[fiery sierra]

it killed the renewal of nuclear power in the US

[crimson breach]

There are certain places nuclear is just not optional and you gotta accept it but that isn’t everywhere

[fiery sierra]

Nah, the mistake was not preparing properly. They didn't shut down when they should have, they built a containment wall for tsunami...that only covered average height over past 100 years, they set the backup diesel generators and power systems underground...where they would easily flood, etc

greed kept their nuclear reactor going, when the correct process was to shut down at once

[crimson breach]

I mean… yeah but like, they coulda seen any geologist or weather expert or amateur and they woulda said, this placement is going to be an issue SOMEDAY

[fiery sierra]

the placement would have been fine, its their compounding mistakes

all of those decisions, were to make it cheaper

not shutting down...make more money, backup diesel generator?...cheaper to be underground than making higher floors.

[silver prism]

Here lies UKR

F

[balmy mantle]

Was Ukraine prepared for this? Is there a possible repeat of Russia’s invasion into Finland ?

[runic ledge]

F

[fiery sierra]

F

[crimson breach]

Yeahhh, i just see it as, it’s a mistake to build a nuclear reactor in a high earthquake prone area with tsunamis in the same way it’s a mistake to make a city in a high prone to flooding area or near a volcano

[silver prism]

They only had so much time to prepare so... not too long

[fiery sierra]

Finland has territory to their advantage

[mental haven]

Ukraine hasn’t been successfully conquered yet

[runic ledge]

why Finland? lol Russia only wanted Finland in WW2 for its good recourses to mass produce tanks

[silver prism]

Another finland. The only difference is Russia isnt just gonna be taking three small areas. Its gonna be half of the nation atleast

[mental haven]

Don’t think Russia considers Finland as a part of its historical sphere of influence despite their history

[winged lava]

Republicans tried to sanction Russia months ago and Democrats put their filibuster hateboner on hold long enough to filibuster those sanctions

[mental haven]

There does seem to be some hope that Ukrainians will accept Russians as they have a common history

[uneven monolith]

wrong.
Finland did not have any form of industry or mass production tanks lol
Check your facts.

[runic ledge]

your opinions seem to collide

[mental haven]

I am a man of passion

[runic ledge]

they had resources

[uneven monolith]

they had chromium in the north
That's pretty much it

[runic ledge]

yep

[uneven monolith]

i know what my own homeland has

and indeed the soviet invasion was more of them trying to enlarge their sphere of influence

[mental haven]

I honestly should’ve known the west was too cowardly to go through with every sanction tbh

[uneven monolith]

yes and yes

[fiery sierra]

Source?

[silver prism]

Yeah, its not looking too hot

So

[runic ledge]

lol

[uneven monolith]

would be cool

[runic ledge]

chad mfs

[silver prism]

Fetch me my AK

[uneven monolith]

but i have to stay home and prepare for the rooskies to try it here

[mental haven]

How can the resistance movement start if it’s already resisting

[silver prism]

We're making our own

[hoary gyro]

Partisans

[silver prism]

We're gonna call it "Bubble butt bottom boys"

[kindred cloud]

https://twitter.com/TommyLundn/status/1496920966873726988

Tommy Lund (@TommyLundn)

ADVISER TO UKRAINIAN PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE SAYS HOSTOMEL AIRFIELD BACK UNDER UKRAINIAN CONTROL - rtrs

Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 6:52 PM

[mental haven]

Based mercenaries fighting against Russia alongside Ukraine defense force

[silver prism]

Based

[runic ledge]

r/wecantbebotheredtohelp

[winged lava]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/13/senate-democrats-block-gop-bill-sanction-russian-p/
There's a NYT article too but it's behind a subscription wall

[mental haven]

Years ago there was this American mercenary fighting against the separatists I knew, his name was Tex, I wonder where he is now. Probably dead

[balmy mantle]

Stock market is in a fall

[runic ledge]

why when you said that did I immediately think of that one forrest gump scene where he is naming all the men in his squad in vietnam

[indigo oracle]

Everything is falling

Gas gonna be 5 dollars tmrw

[mental haven]

Forrest Gump but in real

[runic ledge]

lol

[balmy mantle]

Buying ammo today because the prices will skyrocket tomorrow

[dusty hemlock]

oh no, i thought it would go do the day a war starts

[runic ledge]

bro what war is earth on rn? like war 1000 anniversary we better be getting an update soon man or I’m uninstalling this shit wtf

[restive vapor]

Nope. At it

[fiery sierra]

Its because they were backing a different broader sanctions bill. All tghis would have done would be to santion a handful of people, that gazprom can easily replace

[alpine vessel]

they wouldv been dead if it was AT it besides i saw the missile mis

[runic ledge]

one of them went head on

[mental haven]

Knew I’d see a conventional war in my lifetime, but I had always expected China would be the first to start them

[dusty hemlock]

because your a moron

[mental haven]

Lol

You don’t even know who I am

[runic ledge]

im waiting for line battles to return.,.,keep that 1812 going

[mental haven]

Im your new dad

This tbh

[fiery sierra]

shit, I want it to go medieval. Put Putin out there to fight on 1v1 combat, instead of killing a bunch of poor people

[mental haven]

I had expected it would’ve been kicked off by one of the proxy states near China more than anything

[runic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[runic ledge]

riding in there with their bows like Mongolia

[mental haven]

I want world leaders to have to put their own families in the front lines

[dusty hemlock]

Bidens son was in the military

[mental haven]

True.

[restive vapor]

It hit part of their house. Not directly at it

[mental haven]

But point still stands

[runic ledge]

I want to see that scene from The King where king Henry and the French guys just beat the shit out of each other

[mental haven]

Okay I know this is a serious situation but hear me out: world leaders settle this over cs 1.6

[runic ledge]

p-putin uwu

[restive vapor]

No too risky

Russians would get an easy win

They've played those games than most of us

[runic ledge]

csgo would be a death wish

you know putin has installed wall hacks in preparation

[fickle cliff]

Easier win

Fight to the death between all the world leaders

[runic ledge]

slap wrestling

[indigo oracle]

Is there gonna be more fighting at night ?

[uneven monolith]

bet

[fickle cliff]

We lock em in a city

[runic ledge]

of course

[indigo oracle]

It seems like not a lot of movement during the day

[fickle cliff]

Leave a couple guns out, the one that makes it out first rules the world

And the rest get air strikes

[indigo oracle]

Probably due to all the javelins tbh stopping the armor

[fickle cliff]

Night will mostly be used to love troops around with less chance of being spotted

[indigo oracle]

And manpads for helis

[fickle cliff]

The Ukrainians are holding on tho

They took back an airport

[indigo oracle]

Did the Russians at the airport get decked?

[fickle cliff]

Clearly

[runic ledge]

does anybody know what’s going on in the Black Sea?

[indigo oracle]

Rip those special forces

[toxic spade]

i'm afraid the heaviest hit of all prevents this

[runic ledge]

LOL

[fickle cliff]

Oh shit

[analog depot]

This ain't going the way Putin thought it would I bet. That's what happens when you pay off separatists to fight a country for 6 years. That country gains combat experience.

[runic ledge]

bro they killed their game, 0 player count

[indigo oracle]

Any live leaks?

[toxic spade]

not very inteligumnt

[indigo oracle]

Probably not right

[runic ledge]

bro I bet there are so many

[indigo oracle]

Maybe I’m used it ISIS posting that shit 24-7

[runic ledge]

lol

[indigo oracle]

Propaganda out the ass

With ear blast music

[toxic spade]

r/combatfootage is your friend in these trying times

[mental haven]

Didn’t the fbi or some other generic western agency arrest the guy that owns live leak

[runic ledge]

gore fetish

[toxic spade]

there's less gore than you'd think

more big booms and shooty shoots

[runic ledge]

it’s the concept tho

[toxic spade]

with the occasional civvie

[mental haven]

I will never understand people who hunt for videos of people dying, my own personal opinion, wanting to stay informed is totally dif though

[toxic spade]

morbid curiosity

[runic ledge]

i don’t mind the gore it’s just the guy with the crappy go pro running round a school with a gun shooting people

[toxic spade]

just cant help it
speaking as someone with one

speedran a reddit account at like 3 AM to run in there

NEED to see what's it like

didnt even sleep actually

[dawn latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946407128963358720/946485542391021588/temp.jpg

This is the action we needed

[brisk gazelle]

dayum

[balmy mantle]

Twitter banned trump for mean words

[mental haven]

I kinda understand looking just out of curiosity but it kinda worries me at certain points tbh, some people seem to make it their goal to watch people die

[analog depot]

Some have a sick sense of gore, others (myself included) would rather let what's happening sink in properly with images to back up what we hear on media outlets. Bodies and such doesn't phase me or affect me like it does for many others, but it still lets me understand the full scale of things

[dawn latch]

There’s a militia live streaming themselves fighting in Ukraine

[analog kernel]

that's babylonbee, like the onion if the onion was serious

[dawn latch]

Ik

Just thought it was funny

[rapid pivot]

And also shit

[toxic spade]

ate the bee

[jolly peak]

🇺🇦

[rapid pivot]

No eating, it's just bad satire

[drowsy quail]

So ukraine took back the airport or no?

[toxic spade]

it was a little bit funny

a lil bit

[red slate]

No, seeming getting conflicting reports. Speaking of air.
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496929166029115393

Liveuamap (@Liveuamap)

The An-26 aircraft of the Russian Air Forces crashed in the Voronezh region, the crew died https://t.co/wlgN7vKOFB

Twitter · Feb 24, 2022, 7:24 PM

[misty nimbus]

they say russia has 100% air superiority

[analog depot]

57 killed and 169 wounded is the reported number of casualties so far for Ukraine, could be more

[limber vault]

Who?

[analog depot]

Who's saying that? There is confirmed footage of Russian Aircraft being shot down, don't think they own the sky's just yet.

[misty nimbus]

like this checked mark news account

[bitter lance]

iirc ukraine has been investing in anti air for years now

[limber vault]

I know over capitol flying our jets

[analog depot]

Good thing they did in all honesty, a lot of missiles were probably shot out of the air before landing

[pallid kestrel]

140% air superiority

[rapid kraken]

Air superiority means they're not fighting for the skies with Ukraine as the Ukraine airforce was destroyed very quickly. They have air superiority but are still vulnerable to ground AA

[misty nimbus]

they still figting in odessa?

the port city

[dawn latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728726368816463902/946474080985554974/asdasdasdasf-1.mp4

Found this cool

[bitter lance]

i saw that

[misty nimbus]

what what?

[dawn latch]

"According to the Joint Forces Command, in the Hlukhov area the Ukraine's army used Javelins and neutralized a column of 15 Russian T-72 tanks, General Staff says" https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586868366321516591/946489865808273428/22397573_0.png

[misty nimbus]

no way someone is livestreaming fighting..

[bitter lance]

stream sniped irl lmao

[dawn latch]

Is that translation correct?

[bitter lance]

i dont speak ukrainian idk

[livid trout]

Sad thing is most Russians are good ppl, and russian soldiers are doing their job. When a russian soldiers die they are leaving grieving families behind. It's sad it's come to this.

[regal fjord]

Back in 2014 on the the milita guys in lugansk IIRC posted his position on russian 4chan during an argument with an ukrainian army guy in the same thread
They got bombed in 20 minutes

[livid trout]

I just hope this ends quickly with as few people as possible dying on both sides.

[bitter lance]

unfortunately this likely wont be over quickly

[regal fjord]

There have been reports that conscripts were forced to sign contracts to be deployed in Ukraine

A number of families are unable to contact draftees who were recently relocated to the border

[livid trout]

Suppose it puts a game like foxhole into perspective.

[mental haven]

[edgy siren]

One could say

[swift geode]

oh no

[dawn latch]

Russians won the battle of Chernobyl

[regal fjord]

Its an equivalent of a (Brig.) walking up to you shoveling a trench, giving you a mammon and shoving you into APC

[drowsy quail]

Out of context this sound very interesting

[misty nimbus]

were ukrains stationed ther?

[mental haven]

I think there was a small force garrisoned in chernobyl

[regal fjord]

National guard was

[mental haven]

the administration for chernobyl wasnt there tho

[bitter lance]

chernobyl is on the quickest ruote to kyiv

[teal eagle]

Yeah

And it has a best tourist atraction

The Exclusion Zone

[misty nimbus]

yeah take the capital whole country surrenders tehn

[regal fjord]

Reportedly was very heavy fighting

[teal eagle]

Hardly

[dawn latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586868366321516591/946492883219918908/FMXaDYYXoAonrKQ.png

[bitter lance]

doubt they will if kyiv falls, this is a struggle for the continued existence of their country

[teal eagle]

?

[dawn latch]

They bringing out the big planes

[fickle cliff]

Apparently there are riots in Moscow, with protesters throwing Molotov cocktails at riot police

[bitter lance]

but if they take out kyiv they might set up a puppet government there

[chrome atlas]

What did the Warden say to his dog that was running away?

[dawn latch]

1400 people were arrested apparently, let me find the source.

[teal eagle]

Nice. People do not like Putin more.

[bitter lance]

at the beginning of this conflict russia outlined their goals to "denazify" ukraine

[earnest shell]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1643320/view/3115932326049331518

Crap

[teal eagle]

NOOO

[fickle cliff]

LADS

[bitter lance]

that goal likely constitutes a change in ukraine's government

[dawn latch]

https://blazetrends.com/war-in-ukraine-nearly-1400-protesters-arrested-in-moscow-st-petersburg-and-other-russian-cities/?amp

[fickle cliff]

The Big Boi is ok

[regal fjord]

I doubt the whole army is gonna keep chugging along as usual if RGF takes Kyiv, but there definitely unlikely to be that many surrenders. Kyiv has a lot of crucial military command infrastructure tho, so taking it is big

[fickle cliff]

German troops were supposed to reinforce

But failed to arrive in time

[lapis ember]

good news, Ukraine recaptured the airport already

[fickle cliff]

I know

[lapis ember]

KYIV LIVES

[teal eagle]

YOO

[fickle cliff]

LES GOO!!!

[bitter lance]

i like how the world switched from calling it kiev to kyiv in a day

[fickle cliff]

Pentagon is sending us troops to Germany

[fickle cliff]

Which is the Ukrainian version

[lapis ember]

yep

[regal fjord]

I genuinely just type whichever combination of letters is closer

[drowsy quail]

I mean lets be honest no matter what changes we make on our side of the border it wont mater much

[misty nimbus]

bruh no other country is gonna send troops to ukraine they just keep amkng the sanctions worst..

[mental haven]

they arent even doing a good job at sanctions

[dawn latch]

The ruble has dropped by a lot

[fickle cliff]

Germany tried sending 5000 soldiers to Ukraine, but they failed to get there in time

[dawn latch]

And russias main stock index has gone down by a lot

[fickle cliff]

Funny, the idea of German troops bing welcomed in Ukraine

[bitter lance]

the EU is voting tonight on whether or not to expel Russia from SWIFT

[analog depot]

Can't fund a war if your economy is worse than the Talibans

[fickle cliff]

Assuming they’ll even have one after this

[teal eagle]

Lol

[analog depot]

Hence why sanctions are a thing.

[drowsy quail]

The only real solution is hard sanctions but our politicans are either corrupt or are afraid the backlash will lose them the next elections

[fickle cliff]

Taliban at least have their drugs and captured weapons to sell

[regal fjord]

Funny you say that, considering who won the war between Talibans and US

[lapis ember]

China exists, unfortunately

[elfin tusk]

Send bmats to ukrainw

[teal eagle]

Only sanctions which matter are export sanctions

[fickle cliff]

Their economy is a little better, but not by much

[mental haven]

wish the siberian provincial government took control in the revolution

[lapis ember]

they also happen to have the four largest banks in the world

[bitter lance]

Kyiv Logi List

[mental haven]

siberian supremacy

[fickle cliff]

Evergrande defaulted a while ago, and now their in a very delicate balance

[analog depot]

That's why I said worse then theirs. Cause they somehow funded themselves with far worse equipment. Russia couldn't even beat Afghanistan either.

[lapis ember]

you realize that right

[drowsy quail]

Source?
Would like to read more about it since it sounds interesting? Or if you can explain it here thats also good

[misty vault]

The Logi Union should go help out with supplying of Ukrain

[regal fjord]

couldn't even bean Afghanistan
Name one country that did lmao

[lapis ember]

need 5.56 and 7.62 plz, low on Bandages and Bmats

[mental haven]

It seems that China isn't siding with Russia though, they don't approve of conflicts like this

[fickle cliff]

We send tanks

[swift pumice]

Persia right

[fickle cliff]

They look like they need it

[regal fjord]

Oh fuck I forgot about Persia

[analog depot]

Very true. What, 2-3,000 years of never being conquered.

[teal eagle]

Lol

[uneven monolith]

afganistan did beat afganistan tho

[lapis ember]

not publicly at least, but i'll be damned if China didnt take the oportunity to make Russia depend on them

[fickle cliff]

That’s like the meme with the French in war vs fighting themselves

[mental haven]

I think there's still some in the northeast resisting taliban(?) not sure though

[regal fjord]

Its mostly partisans

[teal eagle]

Ooh

Partisans

[lapis ember]

Speaking of, Ukraine gonna be a Partisan's wet dream by week's end

[teal eagle]

Lmao

[mental haven]

From what I saw it was more than just decentralized groups, it was an entire rebellion government

[analog depot]

There will ALWAYS be resistance, there's too many sects of different Muslims with different beliefs there. One side rises to power for a while then gets taken down and replaced by another.

Afghanistan been fighting amongst themselves WHILST fighting other entire countries for literally thousands of years now

[mental haven]

Ukraine will definitely be a place for mercenaries to make their name tbh

[lapis ember]

Literally Tarkov

[misty vault]

Time to join in I guess

[regal fjord]

Ukraine's already been the place for mercenaries to make their name in

[teal eagle]

Like Azov :)

[regal fjord]

Wagner, Azov

[teal eagle]

Yeah

Tough I'd like for Azov battalion and similar to just... be oblitetated

[fickle cliff]

If the Ukrainians don’t somehow dig their heels in and can manage to last until Russia’s economy finally collapses in on itself

[mental haven]

dont like far right groups tbh, they're the whole reason russia is using the weak justification of "denazifying" ukraine

[regal fjord]

They probably would be, if they're as fanatical as russian state media makes them out to be

[fickle cliff]

Aren’t they the separatists in the Donbas region?

[mental haven]

no, those guys are the donetsk peoples republic and lugansk peoples republic

[regal fjord]

Both sides of the demarkation line is filled with far-righters of different flavores

[mental haven]

azov formed to combat them

[lapis ember]

Russia has backups against the sanctions and they are called China and Self Reliance. If Putin went through with the invasion despite the apparent economic suicide, he definitely can weather the sanctions

[regal fjord]

Oh PUTIN can weather the sanctions alright

We can't tho

[lapis ember]

yep

solid L for the population

[teal eagle]

Problem for him is export sanctions. If China decides to go with rest of world Russia's economy is gone

[lapis ember]

yep

[mental haven]

seems everything always goes back to China

[lapis ember]

If China, for some reason, decides to go sanction russia they are completely fucked

[teal eagle]

Lol

[mental haven]

China is inevitable

[teal eagle]

Yeah

[toxic spade]

Ironically putin loves fueling neo nazi sentiment himself

[teal eagle]

Heh yeah

[magic aurora]

Why isn't there a game mode where we can play on the Russian and Ukrainian maps yet?

[toxic spade]

Fucking eastern europe
Complete mess

[teal eagle]

He loves Tzarists

[still geyser]

In my opinion Russian economy will die anyway
Tomorrow gonna protest against this war, but i guess I'll be arrested like other 1k people today

[edgy siren]

[red slate]

lol

[teal eagle]

I live in EE and I agree

[fickle cliff]

Considering China lives off of exports due to foreign industry there, sanctions are not an option for them

[lapis ember]

good luck my dude

[regal fjord]

As the russian saying goes, "Война войной, а обед по расписанию"

[toxic spade]

Good luck my man

Fight the good fight

[teal eagle]

So no export sanctions. Meaning Russia will be fine.

[still geyser]

Yeah thx

[mental haven]

I can only read cyrillic but cant understand it, what this mean

[fickle cliff]

[teal eagle]

Import Sanctions aren't as hurtfull to Russia

[regal fjord]

War is war, but dinner is on a schedule.

[lapis ember]

bc if they started sanctioning gas/oil, Europe would just freeze over and die. AKA, Russia seems to be annoyingly fine economically

[teal eagle]

Battle to battle, and eat as much as you want?

[teal eagle]

Lol yeah. Good thing my country decided to make LNG terminals... just in case

[teal eagle]

Ah

[red slate]

TBF it IS late February. Don't they have enough stockpiles to last until late March or April?

[teal eagle]

I see my Russian is still shit

[regal fjord]

Gotta improve, man

[lapis ember]

Doubt it tbh

[regal fjord]

Never know when you have to beg for mercy in russian these days

[edgy siren]

[teal eagle]

Yup

My whole family jokes about that

[lapis ember]

Plus Europe wont go around gambling whether or not they can sustain their pops until then

[regal fjord]

This was the main reason the offensive was launched now

[lapis ember]

honestly i expected it to be sooner

[regal fjord]

This campaign can only last until the colds are over, up to spring, then there's no longer gonna be a gas safety cushion for Pu-tan to fall back on

[lapis ember]

my bet was between 19th and 21st

[raw leaf]

Prohibit pizza hut in russia. The will spiral down in communism and be poor again 🧠

[teal eagle]

I exoected that Putin wouldn't attack

[raw leaf]

Same

[bitter lance]

same here too

[slim acorn]

Here we are

[fickle cliff]

Japan was trying to offset this

[regal fjord]

Putin was generally much more subtle, so I expected it would just be a flex of force on the border, no more

[lapis ember]

I expected between 19-21st of february, after that i too didnt think they'd attack

[fickle cliff]

But Japan is unfortunately not Russia

[teal eagle]

Due to my stance in politics that situation would be based in my opinion

But without poor

[raw leaf]

Same. I though he would withdraw and the accuse NATO of being too dramatic

[teal eagle]

Yeah

[regal fjord]

and THEN invade

Now THAT would be classic Putin

[teal eagle]

Yeah lmao

[slim acorn]

What a move thatve been

[teal eagle]

Time to continue watching CNN on reports

[analog depot]

Literally a couple of hours before conflict started.

[regal fjord]

To be honest I joke about this, but the initial "fine-fine, we're withdrawing" statement from russian MoD might have been Putin doing exactly that, but then suddenly changing his mind

[still geyser]

The problem is Russia won't get anything from the war, but war will take allot from Russia
I'm scared that my country is rulling by a crazy old man that do whatever he wants. He gonna do allot of damage to Russia, and I'm afraid that it will takes many years to recover

[edgy siren]

Stay strong, Fox

Stay Lucky

[mental haven]

Hope you stay okay man

[regal fjord]

🤔 Actually no clue what this could be

[still geyser]

Thx guys

[whole moon]

I think old powerful men ruining countries for everyone else for years to come is a running theme with humans :)

[regal fjord]

Doesnt seem like it landed in Moscow, and there were no diversions announced in Kyiv for it to be a diversion group

[analog depot]

Oh Putin wasn't going to withdraw, but there was a planned false flag attack on a chemical lab in Crimea, they were going to use that to justify themselves attacking Ukraine. Yea that didn't work out when that plan was found out by the US. So they used an old video claiming Ukraine had crossed the border planning on sabotaging Russian Military, and now we're here

[lapis ember]

You guys get a buffer with the west, extra pop, farms and industry.
You also get Ukrainian terrorist organizations if Putin goes too far

[whole moon]

Russia seems to just want a buffer from the west yeah

[regal fjord]

That buffer means nothing with the advent of hypersonic weapons, the population is unmanageable, industry is just as much in shambles as our own and farms are very fucked right now

[whole moon]

they've been invaded through the Great European Plain twice in the last 100 years

[analog depot]

No, Putin wants to re-unite the Soviet Union

[worldly plaza]

Dude, Ukraine has a strong national identity that will never submit to Russia. They wouldn’t get shit.

And there is no need for buffer zones when you can reach Russia from Western Europe with the missiles.

[whole moon]

you do need a buffer because you need troops to consolidate gains

[lapis ember]

Im not defending Russia, im stating the tactical and nominal gains of invading Donbass/Ukraine

[worldly plaza]

Putin is not reuniting the Soviet Union. He’s just bluffing and his bluff was called, so now he’s turning the country into North Korea.

[still geyser]

I live in Russia for my whole life and I saw what happened to Crimea
Believe me, Russia won't improve new territories, our government will take everything that possible and leave it without money

[bitter lance]

would describing putin as a sovieboo be accurate

[worldly plaza]

He’s literally just staying in power. Nothing else.

[regal fjord]

Absolutely

[red slate]

He was KGB, of course he is.

[analog depot]

Dude, he's been planning this entire charade for 22 years now since he left the Soviet-led KGB... Of course he's trying to re-unite the soviet union again, under the Russian flag.

[fickle cliff]

Reminder that Putin literally worked for the KGB during the Soviet Union

[worldly plaza]

That’s a very misleading opinion but like, meh. :/

[lapis ember]

I live in a BRICS country, so i can half relate to having a shit government in power. However, i can't imagine what it's like to go to war for no reason other than nominal gains and a dictator's consolidation of power

[worldly plaza]

This is the only way for him to stay in power, to create a state of permanent emergency where there’s no other alternative than to keep him there.

[still geyser]

Putin got outdated view of the world. He lives in his own reality where he pretends to be a "Uniter of lands", so i believe that he did that just for his ego

[lapis ember]

To the Russian bros in here, Boa Sorte and please stay safe lads

[analog depot]

Belarus, Crimea? Dude he's wanting the old land of Rus to be connected as one again, many others are also saying the same.

[lapis ember]

same for any Ukranians

[regal fjord]

I can describe it to you: the entire world looks at you like you are the cartoony villain from the cold war-era Hollywood movies and all your prices have just doubled and look like they're gonna triple tomorrow

[worldly plaza]

Considering going to the protest tmrw. Knowing how it went in Belarus firsthand kinda makes it look pointless.

[bitter lance]

stay safe i heard there have been arrests

[worldly plaza]

It’s illogical, Ciwi. Like, legit, you’re acting like that territory gives him something. It doesn’t. It’s worthless, for the most part.

[worldly plaza]

I’ve watched a few on Telegram just now. :/

[still geyser]

Я тоже буду там, удачи!

[regal fjord]

Black Sea Fleet Base though

[analog depot]

Do I even need to go through the amount of natural resources Ukraine has? And where the computer chip industry mostly stems from?

[regal fjord]

Literally same fleet launching Calibres right now

[mental haven]

a russian logi plane just crashed

[lapis ember]

Sounds like shit. We just get labeled as a hellhole half the time, which is unfortunately partly true. Can def relate to things being overly expensive though, Stay safe lad

[mental haven]

I can't stand people who are harrassing normal russians blaming them for this war tbh

[regal fjord]

Generally I don't think there's any point protesting anymore. You just get arrested, beaten up, have a bottle shoved up your arse and then get a fine and a jail time to boot while accomplishing nothing. You either ignore the whole debacle or straight up take up weapons at this point, there's no point in the in-between

[slim acorn]

So many political extremists in the US right now

[mental haven]

blame Putin

[slim acorn]

Yikes

[analog depot]

Saying it gives him nothing is absolutely ignorant to the fact that, despite what media outlets tell you, they do indeed have a shitload of resources that Putin can not only barter peace on his terms for from being able to control a market with much sought after goods in the information area, but then use it himself to repair the damages done by this war.

[bitter lance]

not even just US, the west in general is becoming more and more polarized

[slim acorn]

Yeah yeah, but speaking from where I am from specifically

[worldly plaza]

Russia is fine on natural resources as it is, their only benefit from gaining land from Ukraine would be to have access to EU without being locked out of it by Ukraine in the south, I reckon.

And I’m not sure why you brought Taiwan into this (you’re referring to Taiwan, aren’t you?).

[bitter lance]

fair

[mental haven]

Putin is just a warlord looking to consolidate his power

[worldly plaza]

Spot on.

[fickle cliff]

That just sounds like a ponzi scheme

[analog depot]

Sure does suck when the country with 70% of the neon gas industry is being attacked right now.

[worldly plaza]

I’m aware of the natural resources Ukraine has, and the same could be said about Kazakhstan. I’m just saying, that’s definitely, objectively, not the goal Putins pursing here.

Like it or not, many Russians find pride in uniting against the west (which is dumb af), so he’s just selling that story over and over again to stay in power.

[lapis ember]

Putin is a Chess Player. As such, he is a ruthless man who will do anything to further his own power in the name of the "nation".

[analog depot]

Saying he's doing it for a buffer zone is fucking ignorant dude. That's not his goal. He doesn't need a buffer when he's already threatened small payloads of thermonuclear devices if anyone tries to invade him

[regal fjord]

The goals Putin's pursuing is that MAYBE, POSSIBLY 20 years from now someone in Kyiv would finally say "Fuck this, why don't we just stomp DNR and LNR finally?" and is competent enough to do it

[fickle cliff]

?

[worldly plaza]

That’s what I argued against as well. He doesn’t need a buffer zone.

[regal fjord]

And then there won't be Putin to prevent it, since he'd be dead. He's clearing the ground for his successor

[runic ledge]

i don’t know whether to support my russian blood or the western powers

[worldly plaza]

If Belarus has a clear “successor”, I kinda can’t think of anyone that would replace Putin tbh.

Which is a good thing, I reckon (?).

[ruby hamlet]

Gostomel airport back in Ukraine hands, all spetznaz killed

[regal fjord]

I'm fully expecting a civil war when Putin is retired

[worldly plaza]

I hope I’ll be out of this country by tben.

[regal fjord]

I hoped I'd be out of this country by now 10 years ago XD

[lapis ember]

The buffer is more a bonus, the reasons are more likely to secure industry and farmland as well as population. He also needs to make sure Ukraine wont be joining NATO since that could be an existential threat for Putin. Im not defending Russia, but not even the most brash leaders would go around invading countries for no reason, and Putin is far from being Dumb or Brash

[jolly peak]

🇺🇦

[indigo oracle]

So are Russian forces spread too thin?

[runic ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/old-guard-imperial-guard-napoleon-french-empire-gif-22538887

[indigo oracle]

Or is Ukraine cleaning up the backlines right now

[jolly peak]

Wait really?

[ruby hamlet]

Yes

[analog depot]

Not true, fighting still ongoing

[runic ledge]

we need a modernised war and peace on the ukranian-russian war

[bitter lance]

i think like an hour ago yeah

[jolly peak]

🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[lapis ember]

Im just waiting on casualty reports so I can finally have russiboos shut up about their tank being so good

[ruby hamlet]

i can translate if you want

[runic ledge]

mf had the audacity to add an emoji in the war report

[analog depot]

The original person who announced it deleted their post, and then wrote another to say fighting was still on going.

[ruby hamlet]

its 3rd post

[cinder path]

Russias economy dropped 33 percent

[fickle cliff]

Not spetznaz, VDV

[runic ledge]

wtf source?

[raw leaf]

15 tanks where reportedly destroyed with javelins, claims ukraine, so yeah

[ruby hamlet]

Yes mistake

[fickle cliff]

They’re paratroopers

[lapis ember]

Rekt

[ruby hamlet]

that was like 6 hours ago

[cinder path]

sorry, stocks* https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russian-stocks-33percent-crash-is-fifth-worst-in-market-history/ar-AAUfNsm?ocid=uxbndlbing

[ruby hamlet]

Near Sumy

[cinder path]

Ruble is 84/1 USD

[lapis ember]

Wait i thought we pushed them out of Hostomel like an hour and a half ago

[cinder path]

yes we did

[analog depot]

False report at the time

[cinder path]

https://liveuamap.com/

[worldly plaza]

However, there have now been reports that Hostomel is yet again under Ukrainian control.

[bitter lance]

Zmeiniy is likely captured

[runic ledge]

bro I would love to see a persistent foxhole style map of ukraine

[analog kernel]

their aim is to take kyiv and end it fast

[cinder path]

the russians lsot

[runic ledge]

how is the battle in chernobyl?

[lapis ember]

Russia is far from having deployed all it's troops

[cinder path]

lost*, its over, the economy has disintegrated and now Putin is threatening nukes in retaliatory lash-out

[lapis ember]

Over, russia won and is apparently using it as an arty pos

[bitter lance]

concluded, site in russian hands

[runic ledge]

when the online community knows more than general staff

[ruby hamlet]

hahah true

[runic ledge]

oh shit

[hazy bone]

basically this is the armchair general comittee over russia ukraine crisis lol

[lapis ember]

Source

plz not again

[runic ledge]

lmao

[raw leaf]

Source?

[bitter lance]

essentially

[cinder path]

one sec lemme get it

[runic ledge]

we are currently holding a discorduser council of war over a real time war

chad business

[pallid kestrel]

I can't believe I get to see Argentina twice in a top 5

[analog depot]

Most likely false, it's unconfirmed at the moment

[runic ledge]

Is the battle for the airport still ongoing then?

[worldly plaza]

https://t.me/a_shtirlitz/15742

Keep in mind this channel is by no means a reliable news source.

[raw leaf]

Officially, yes

[worldly plaza]

My link above says it is.

[analog depot]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1496946487460171799

[cinder path]

ope, nevermind sorry about the false info, but they are holding the staff hostage as of a couple hours ago https://t.me/TCH_channel/21044

[analog depot]

Aircraft still attacking Hostomel

[raw leaf]

Ok then delete og message

no fake news around here

[cinder path]

yea sorry

[lapis ember]

yeah they've been out of Hostomel for a while now apparently

[runic ledge]

Damn so all of those Russian paratroopers on that Reddit video are possibly dead?

[raw leaf]

Good boi

[analog depot]

False report, initial post was deleted and another made after to say fighting ongoing

[dawn latch]

Alr

[regal fjord]

Taking Kyiv won't end the war

[raw leaf]

Nota all dead for now. And they will not all die. They will surrender or win, but they aren’t fanatics

[lapis ember]

is it?

[shy bobcat]

What was the Russians plan on taking Hostomel in the first place? They don’t have any forces nearby that would be able to relieve the defenders right?

[torn pond]

[analog kernel]

No, but it's their goal

[cinder path]

also US forces are arriving en masse in latvia

[analog kernel]

Goal is to decapitate the ukrainian government

[raw leaf]

From the north yes. They could maintain the airport and the fly troops in

strategic

[runic ledge]

Is the airport that was attacked by pro russian forces the same one that is being attacked by the Russian army this evening?

[restive vapor]

Do you guys think the US will get involved in this?

[cerulean spindle]

Throwback to Putin saying "there would be consequences" if other countries intervened.

[torn pond]

no much

[cinder path]

if they have to, but no probably not

[worldly plaza]

Directly? Not a chance. :/

[raw leaf]

Impossible

[worldly plaza]

Materiel supply? Fucking hopefully.

[runic ledge]

late to the party as usual

[regal fjord]

They have total air superiority, they can just paradrop

[runic ledge]

you think this might elapse into nuclear warfare?

[lapis ember]

US wont touch this with a 10 foot pole unless russia drops bombs on said pole

heh, see what i did there

[runic ledge]

lol

[worldly plaza]

Russia has a killer airforce compared to Ukraine so it’s important to balance those odds.

God, I sound like an armchair general right here.

[analog depot]

Can't paradrop in the middle of the day, it's suicide for them and target practice for the Ukrainians

[raw leaf]

No. Don’t be silly

[cinder path]

Russia has a killed airforce now lmao

[jolly peak]

Lol

Russia lost like 7 tanks so far

[runic ledge]

live catastrophe in Europe with many affected made funny on discord-
24/2/2022

[hazy bone]

nope, already mention by presiden biden
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6921612001

[raw leaf]

Not pradeop, bit if they capture the airport thay can land planes, or heli peapole in as they already have done

[cinder path]

up to 20 claimed

[shy bobcat]

Not a chance. No one wants to use nukes.

[jolly peak]

Couple of Helicopters too

[jolly peak]

Holy Hell

[cinder path]

and a squad of sukhoi fighters

[regal fjord]

They paradropped in the morning in Hostomel while it was hostile, they sure can do it with it in their hands

[jolly peak]

A squad??!?

[cinder path]

as well as a reported but unconfirmed AN-225 crash

[cinder path]

like 6

[runic ledge]

the British are sure to be involved by tommorow I have no doubt

[analog depot]

Airbourne =/= paradrop. They were dropped by helicopter, they didn't jump.

[uneven monolith]

squadron

[worldly plaza]

Not there yet but hopefully, in the coming days.

[cinder path]

yea Russia is already accusing them of harrassment in the black sea

so, Britain is a possibility

[restive vapor]

Yeah we said the same things in WW1 and 2

[runic ledge]

‘this time for sure’
why tf is this war comedic from far away

[fickle cliff]

Ukrainian javelins

[restive vapor]

we'll see

[drowsy quail]

I hope so

[raw leaf]

Hmmm, take it with salt. It may be propaganda

[restive vapor]

Russia cannot be trusted anymore

most likely propaganda

[raw leaf]

That was ukraine tho

[lapis ember]

why would they lie about it, saying it's fallen would be mich more benefitial since they could just ask more guns to the west

[shy bobcat]

Isn’t that the Ukrainians?

[jolly peak]

Godspeed

[regal fjord]

The airport is probably gonna be exchanging hands like a hot potato for a while, it was the same thing in 2014

[analog depot]

I agree. I'm gonna believe the guy living 10km away over media outlets tbh

[lapis ember]

that tweet is Ukranian lmao

[restive vapor]

oh im fucking blind

[indigo oracle]

@analog kernel Shouldn’t they have sent more forces ??

[restive vapor]

kill me

[hazy bone]

maybe, since all it takes
is one telegram to mexico or an assault to its navy in hawai

[shy bobcat]

They don’t want their people to panic.

[lapis ember]

Famous Russian news outlet 'Kyiv post"

[indigo oracle]

If they are trying end it fast

[raw leaf]

No. War doesn’t work like that. You say you are winning not losing

[uneven monolith]

do you really want to enlist to azov

[runic ledge]

lmao no

I’m a fat gamer I can’t use a gun

[lapis ember]

wehn was the tweet sent?

[runic ledge]

also I’m not far right

[analog kernel]

hmm?

[ruby hamlet]

Russian casualties
3000 near Kharkiv
200 vehicles
200 men in Kherson
100 vehicles in Chernigiv

[hazy bone]

this couple people of armchair general comittee living up its name

[fickle cliff]

Keep spreading this shit

[analog depot]

Around the times second claims were being made of it being retaken. Like 5-10m ago now

[lapis ember]

huh

[drowsy quail]

You sure thats accurate?

[cinder path]

bruh.

[raw leaf]

3000? Don’t believe it. Totally propaganda. They claimed 50 this midday and now 3000? No shot

[cinder path]

yea

[lapis ember]

yep

[ruby hamlet]

50 in village in donbas

[lapis ember]

Ukraine is sweating now jesus

[drowsy quail]

This

[analog depot]

Probably not accurate, this isn't world war so numbers like that won't be expected

[regal fjord]

2 battalions ditched vehicles and flee Ukrainian territory by foot
Lol why would they run by foot

[ruby hamlet]

Shastya

[analog depot]

Old tactic for abandoning vehicles so the other side doesn't get it. Usually ditch and burn so you don't get caught in it