No, Asia is normally bad, but this is worse.
#general-discussion
chrome flower
Also this happened once
north aspen
Alright, I’m moving the commentary of the show to here, popcorn anyone?
@topaz hedge ?
north aspen
🍿
topaz hedge
I might need a rundown on what’s happening so far
north aspen
Cain is saying clan man bad to 82DK leaders
Because they kicked Hans, and because as soon as they lose ground they leave.
sleek wolf
its true
topaz hedge
They just left cuz they lost ground?
sleek wolf
yes they do that a lot
north aspen
Shows over, I was hoping commentary in here would prolong it
topaz hedge
What they moved on? Okay
sleek wolf
just start something else
north aspen
Ah well, salty vets can only go at each other for so long
sleek wolf
let the fire continue on something else
topaz hedge
I’ve never tried popcorn and milk before so I’m not sure how this is supposed to go
plain mountain
root beer in milk
topaz hedge
The hell?
plain mountain
it's good
topaz hedge
I don’t drink
plain mountain
that's bad
topaz hedge
Pardon me, I had to attend to some matters, where were we?
topaz hedge
Right, root beer and milk
plain mountain
it's good, if you've ever had a root beer float, it's like that but just a drink
topaz hedge
...righty
north aspen
Interesting
topaz hedge
Also when are we gonna get rid of these cainsiderate nicknames
I feel like I am just wearing two hats
north aspen
Then I’m wearing like six.
topaz hedge
Yeah your wearing six on top of you
Lemme list them
Eagle hat
Cain hat
WLT hat
BMX hat
Hmm... what else
north aspen
Pessimistic is there
topaz hedge
But you are pessimistic
north aspen
You are Eagle
north aspen
So you have one hat, I have four.
north aspen
3 dorky hats and one just bad hat.
topaz hedge
Which ones the just bad one?
north aspen
[WLT]
north aspen
Warden
Logistics and
Transport
topaz hedge
Not quite so bad
north aspen
I thought about joining WN once, how odd would that be.
topaz hedge
Huh...
abstract furnace
scenic thunder
noice
drifting heath
@cosmic cliff @lament pewter I kind of understand what the intention of the suggestion was. It's just the fix has a small but significant problem.
Give the players more time to react to gas by having it deplete Stamina first at a fast rate
Losing stamina quickly will make you fall over, robbing you of any chance to get out of the gas cloud.
lusty yoke
raw birch
cosmic cliff
@cosmic cliff @lament pewter I kind of understand what the intention of the suggestion was. It's just the fix has a small but significant problem.
Losing stamina quickly will make you fall over, robbing you of any chance to get out of the gas cloud.
@drifting heath They could easily put in a block that puts it just above the point where you fall over, giving them 80% (I think) of the endurance bar before they start taking damage
drifting heath
They could. But it's not part of the suggestion.
cosmic cliff
fair enough
abstract furnace
short berry
if only
woven scarab
@raw birch You called?
rocky root
Anyone an experienced Starborne player? Beta 11 server coming up this weekend and I'm wondering if anyone here has a hookup. DM plz!
sleek wolf
not hype
woven scarab
hype
sleek wolf
playstation sucks
woven scarab
nevermind playstation
sleek wolf
still no hype
woven scarab
not a fan of game engines, huh
sleek wolf
not much to see yet
native sable
wise pier
fair raptor
pure ember
woven scarab
@pure ember no relation? https://youtu.be/eV5TLkfYHuI
chrome flower
Nothing quite like breaking through the Maginot with just a bunch of guys with rifles
And i mean that literraly
native sable
woven scarab
topaz hedge
what...
the...
heck!!??
chrome flower
Wait is that CornHolePatrol?
native sable
What game is that by the way? I haven’t played a triple A multiplayer shooter since BTF1
rapid kraken
Squad
native sable
Oh the Foxhole FPS we don’t talk about
Hey you know what the world needs right now?
Another Darkwood.
I could care less about Darkest Dungeon 2, I just want a dark-wood 2.
rapid kraken
Are wind chimes a wind instrument or percussion
paper timber
percussion
the tube is to make it hollow so it vibrates, not for wind to flow through it
paper timber
well my name is RobotSpark but I'm not a robot am I?
paper timber
take my word for it
rapid kraken
I simply cant Sir
plain mountain
pure ember
@woven scarab None
pseudo zealot
85.210.121.84 2302
topaz hedge
@sleek wolf Someone nuke the hell out of that damn spider
sleek wolf
@pseudo zealot the fuck is that
chrome flower
breakfest
pseudo zealot
What
abstract furnace
severe venture
scenic thunder
"La transmision Extinguido" who the fuck wrote that
frozen cedar
woven scarab
shrewd flume
Why is he talking to us from a kitchen
orchid blaze
Good morning FOD
woven scarab
Why is he talking to us from a kitchen
covid
lusty yoke
sleek wolf
@safe aspen CK3 is available for pre-purchase
drifting heath
Pre-purchasing Paradox products is a terrible decision from a financial perspective
sleek wolf
it is
lean turret
Patches or DLCs 
charred vigil
wait for the GOTY edition tbh
olive thicket
outer ravine
dense saffron
I feel like we're comparing apples to oranges here
chrome flower
I wanted to say that
chrome flower
They are nothing alike
proven bridge
drifting heath
cursive solar
Cease und desist
cursive solar
Just wait til I get my hands on a matching-bolt, original condition type 38 infantry rifle with the bayonet and the dust cover
proven bridge
sinful bridgeBOT
Space Monkey#7876 was muted | Ya. We're not gonna have these types of pictures in the discord. 5 hours
gaunt meadow
plain mountain
@cursive solar hey I've got the bayonet for one, we must combine them sometime if you ever get the rifle
cursive solar
Yeah
cursive solar
Shame that we can’t have mil Surp for good prices nowadays
plain mountain
stuff's going up in price cause everyone's buying up everything
cursive solar
Some dude in Indonesia is probably having a good time with his grandpop’s type38 meanwhile
plain mountain
hah
eh more likely it wound up in the middle east or africa somewhere, everything old gets bought up and sold in bulk to poor countries and they usually wind up in the hands of militias
frozen cedar
@cursive solar I think somebody pulled the trigger before you
cursive solar
Damn
karmic ether
@hot schooner Ever play New Vegas bounties?
hot schooner
yep, i've played like 600 hours for FO4 and I never ever completed the game
plain mountain
can never bring myself to finish NV, the first part of the story that's more freeform is more enjoyable, then once it starts piling on it gets more tedious to finish every single quest
hot schooner
5 hours might an exaggeration but no more than 30 hours per character
karmic ether
I play all of mine to finish
You're all robbing your selves of the ending slideshow
hot schooner
I don't even play the main quest lmao, I just pretend I am a NCR trooper and like patrol stuff
i have that alternate life mod or whatever
karmic ether
I usually go full cowboy and still be courier 6
hot schooner
I don't even know why people are asking me about me getting shot in the head lmao. I am a NCR trooper fresh from California
karmic ether
Role playing as a Legion
Frumentari is better
hot schooner
It is hard playing as Legionary, because there are no real quests
that storyline wasn't as developed as the NCR
plain mountain
yeah legion wasn't fleshed out very well at all, kinda sad
I wanna see what the legion's like on the other side of the river but all we get is the camp and that's it
hot schooner
there are always mods though
karmic ether
The Legion is still very good, despite the fact they were left a bit unfinished
Talking to Caeser is always a joy
lean turret
I booted F1 today, windows said cd was a virus. Radiation must have grown too high over the years
plain mountain
I wanna see a legion trying to build roman style buildings and roads, aqueducts, with a post-apoc twist, that'd be fun
lean turret
Got two, want one? 👀
hot schooner
I got Fallout 3 but it requires like 10 hours just to make it playable
karmic ether
I already got the game for like 50 p on steam
cursive solar
Building with or without slaves?
plain mountain
with obv
karmic ether
@plain mountain Legion is said to have many cities so its possible
lean turret
Did you play fallout 1.5?
karmic ether
Fallout tactics?
plain mountain
gotta keep the good manpower in your armies, the rest gets delegated to construction and farming
lean turret
No, 1.5
karmic ether
Never heard of it.
lean turret
Then try it, Ressurection is not bad
karmic ether
I'll have to.
You gotta hand it to the Legion though, they were alot better at taking over places than the NCR
lean turret
Will need critter.dat from 2 or whatever all fallouts online/mods need 
plain mountain
NCR has to deal with bureaucracy and red tape, the legion is an oligarchy so it's easier with faster decision making and power
karmic ether
Well thats the crux of the argument between them, whats better?
hot schooner
plus NCR is fighting the BOS back in the Broken Hills of Calfironia
karmic ether
As much as the legion are shit, I still hate the NCR
The house always wins
I always help the powder gangers
hot schooner
well the moral of the endings of FONV is who is the least worst.
lean turret
House 2.0 ending ftw
karmic ether
House knows what he's doing.
lean turret
I meant yesman
hot schooner
I am probably way too lawful neutral to ever pick anything over than the NCR
karmic ether
Why though?
lean turret
Cuz its worst ending
hot schooner
idk democracy
karmic ether
The problem with the NCR is the greed, giving them the very symbol of greed, Vegas. And giving them a shit ton of power over the Mojave and increase their imperialism isn't going to help the NCR
Caesar puts it best: "The NCR is a loose collection of individuals, looking out for themselves."
hot schooner
well isn't that what our society is?
cursive solar
True
hot schooner
its worked good so far?
plain mountain
I'd argue for quality of life for the common person, the NCR is likely better, if not more convoluted with elections, fraud, poor politics, and such. I'd always argue for a republic-like institution over an oligarchy-like or even dictatorship. bad as it may seem as it is the post-apocalypse, it is at least trying to uphold old-world ideals of having a peacetime economy and won't run out of steam as soon as it doesn't have anything left to conquer. less stable in the short term, but moreso in the long term
hot schooner
the power of the deal is a power that turns greed into mutually beneficial exchanges
karmic ether
@plain mountain I disagree in a sense, the NCR while it may provide its citizens with food and water and other such luxuries. It still breeds a dependence on the government that provided them.
The Legion, even with the obvious shit like slavery is still teaching tribals basic lessons of metallurgy and systems of coinage, as well as how to organise and be some what self-reliant even without Legion.
I think Caeser parallels greater with Alexander The Great than his namesake.
House is the best still.
plain mountain
house is the ideal but I still somewhat dislike the idea of having such a fragile "governance." you can see how easy it is to de-throne him just by going against him and having an inkling of what's going on behind the scenes
and a benevolent dictator, while benevolent, is still a dictator, and is subject to being overthrown with a change of leadership. with no institution in place to stop that, it'd be potentially very easy to throw a wrench in the whole system and bring chaos to the region
karmic ether
Very true, which I suppose is also the problem with Yes man.
olive thicket
karmic ether
Thanks, Languid.
cursive solar
Well on the plus side you get to see the Middle Ages in New Mexico after the legion disappears
karmic ether
^
Even if the Legion goes away its still going to act like Rome did in Europe
All those tribes are gonna come back, set up their own countries. Try and claim the lost glory of Legion
olive thicket
@karmic ether you are welcome
karmic ether
Say the Legion never arises, we have the NCR swooping in and just colonising it.
Not adopting the tribes, or uplifting them, moving in their own settlements
There's cut content for New Vegas where some Natives of the Mojave try to go to like mead for water. NCR soldiers come up and say: "Nah his is ours." They argue and it ends with an execution of the natives.
olive thicket
karmic ether
One survives and says to the player: "They're taking our water. How are we gonna survive without our water?!"
hot schooner
Fallout is a tough place lol
karmic ether
Thats the worst way to justify the NCR's evil.
hot schooner
I once tried to play a doctor for immersion and some fiends cut me open with a chainsaw
cursive solar
I mean, at least fallout has technology that helps them more than what we have today
karmic ether
Which is disappearing may I add
Which is also why Legion is smart when it comes to teaching its people to use traditional medicine, I mean its Utah not exactly an industrial base where they can replicate stuff.
woven scarab
@plain mountain have you tried New California?
plain mountain
yeah, the NCR isn't perfect, far from, like I said it's still the post-apocalypse. the ideals behind it however I think are better than benevolent dictatorship from house or the roman concept behind the legion. no government in history has not committed crimes against humanity, nothing in the fallout universe is exempt from this, and with some upheaval and re-training of people under the NCR's banner I think it can work
karmic ether
I think the same way with the Legion, sadly.
The difference is Caeser wants to change, he wants to stop moving around like a warband and make Vegas his Rome
plain mountain
@woven scarab I haven't, with my download speed I have to be picky about what I download, and game-sized content is rare for me to even consider
woven scarab
Should you ever be able to, I recommend it
lean turret
NV is not about picking best but least bad after all 👀
karmic ether
Let Legion stabilise to make it so it wont collapse like Macedon with Alexander, ditch the slavery and its golden.
For the most part
plain mountain
@lean turret I think that's almost the entire point of the story, honestly
woven scarab
Y'all play Lonesome Road?
plain mountain
who's the least bad in the courier's eyes?
karmic ether
Lonesome road is alright
hot schooner
Dead Money makes me sad and scared
woven scarab
I thought it was really cool
hot schooner
fucking holograms
karmic ether
If you get the unoffical dead money patches its the best DLC
plain mountain
I haaaaate dead money
plain mountain
like, it's a cool story, but anything close to horror or creep just makes me nope out of a game
karmic ether
Ghost people are supposed to have a perception of 0, but it bugs giving them infinite perception.
woven scarab
I disliked the forced difficulty
plain mountain
that too
hot schooner
its not even that horror like - its just sad
woven scarab
tbh
woven scarab
I googled the blueprint for stimpacks and it became a lot easier after that
karmic ether
You're supposed to look around.
woven scarab
I missed it, twice
karmic ether
After like an hour of exploration I well equipped.
woven scarab
I was constantly out of ammo
karmic ether
I always had some ammo
You're supposed to savour it not spend it like a chav on payday
The only problem I have with Dead Money is the cloud while outside constantly choking you
A bit annoying but overall adds to the feeling of dread I feel.
cursive solar
Interesting
karmic ether
It is.
cursive solar
But can’t relate too well
karmic ether
I find the mistake with most people is they want to go into it like HH or OWB
You cant go around like you usually do, you HAVE to be careful
Which I love.
Not to mention the amazing characters and story.
cursive solar
Have you played STALKER before?
cursive solar
Oh man
dropping people at 150m away with the cheapest ammo is some of the best experience I got
karmic ether
Have you played the MISERY mod?
cursive solar
Oh god
karmic ether
I love it.
cursive solar
It’s ok, I prefer anomaly more though
cursive solar
The mask wiping graphic gets to me
karmic ether
People fucking laughed at me when I said Cossaks 3 was to fund STALKER 2
I was proved correct, they aren't laughing now.
karmic ether
I just want to see some Gameplay
cursive solar
Yeah man
cursive solar
I hope that doesn’t happen
It’s not good for mod support
They’d lose more in the long run
karmic ether
Not ever going to download that chinese spyware on my computer, same with Origin
I remember when that was found to be spyware
No no one cares.
I wont fold though.
cursive solar
I ain’t shilling to em for sure
karmic ether
sleek wolf
finally figured out CK2
woven scarab
tfw epic games' privacy policy webpage defaults to a 404
HMMMM
I hope it's just the outages
lime junco
wise torrent
i dont know if deep rock galactic is any good but I saw it had dwarves and so I paid £25
wish me luck gamers
analog kernel
@karmic ether went into dead money as my first DLC. Enjoyed it quite a lot, but can definitely agree with what descriptions I've read of it as "Fallout but a horror game." I certainly felt pretty god-damned oppressed by that cloud.
That and the beeping. 
karmic ether
Atleast you understand how good that DLC is.
I'd still recommend installing the infinite perception fix because then stealth play throughs are actually viable.
analog kernel
I do. I enjoyed it quite a lot. Was difficult, sure, but by god, in almost everything from character to enemies to atmosphere it made a strong impression. Nice to have something willing to smack you in the face and tell you that you play by its rules now.
I really enjoyed the forced emphasis on crafting rather than semi-unlimited supplies of stuff I had from elsewhere.
karmic ether
My honest favourite thing about the DLC over all is just the theme though, the whole thing of just 'letting go.' Even if you can get all the gold out by glitching it, there wont be a trader in the mojave that'll give you its full value, even when you get it you're lumped with something so valuable its a burden.
analog kernel
and lord knows I tried to do it legit. I did end up taking just one bar of gold
Just one cheeky bar.
finder's fee
karmic ether
My second time playing the DLC I was doing a speech/barter playthrough where I'd use companions to do my dirty work, kind of like a mob boss kind of thing. And despite it saying its worth 10K caps I was only ever able to get 7 or 8K out of it at 100 barter skill because no merchant has that many caps.
My current play through I dropped everything, armour, aid and all despite it being hardcore mode, except the Holorifle and the automatic rifle
Only got 5 bars out
Automatic rifle is a shit gun anyways, degrades by 5% by like every 10 shots
analog kernel
Gold bars not known for their liquidity. Difficult to, ah, offload you know?
karmic ether
Exactly, fits the theme great.
The one thing I always wanted was you seeing Dean again, he did say he was going to Vegas after all.
analog kernel
Automatic Rifle was always a gun you used because it was all you had. Oh well. You could make plenty of caps off of everything else you found in the Sierra Madre, no need to lose yourself chasing the gold
karmic ether
dont know how i sent that twice
excuse me, where can I check where my screenshots are stored?, the ones I took with crtl + P
ebon walrus
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Foxhole\Saved\Screenshots\WindowsNoEditor
karmic ether
thanks man
sleek wolf
@ebon walrus is wrong
ebon walrus
?
ebon walrus
smh my head
ebon walrus
my sincerest apologies
ebon walrus
🤝
ebon walrus
shadow pinging smh
karmic ether
drowsy cipher
youtube dieded?
north aspen
Sad
topaz hedge
Yeah Youtube has gone kaput
plain mountain
topaz hedge
Yeah it's back up
woven scarab
@analog kernel Even though it's the M1918 I never liked it in NV
Survivalist Rifle is the be all end all assault rifle
karmic ether
anclet thats uncool bro...
woven scarab
@karmic ether I prefer this version tho. ""Superior"" quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZvxgABYPA0
karmic ether
this is only more uncool
plain mountain
pff
drifting heath
Are we listening to German songs now?
woven scarab
inb4 erika
drifting heath
As long as it's not “Atemlos durch die Nacht”
woven scarab
this one also slaps https://youtu.be/wCDIYvFmgW8
karmic ether
@safe aspen https://youtu.be/SKAqmqVQ700
plain mountain
help I'm already scared @rose canyon
rose canyon
@plain mountain
rose canyon
Hey anclet I made in FFXIV a lovely miqo'te
plain mountain
miqo'te?
plain mountain
ooh~
plain mountain
rose canyon
They are so cute when they move their ears
Can't wait to make her face whit, tho :)) idk what was in my head
rose canyon
No, @plain mountain everything is wrong and you know it!
plain mountain
native sable
olive thicket
analog kernel
@woven scarab yes the Survivalist's rifle is the weapon of the refined and distinguished gentlemen
vocal pond
earnest river
i never did get the survivalists rifle in new vegas is it any good?
astral bane
270 games in my library, dont know what to play
topaz hedge
What games?
astral bane
random games
topaz hedge
then yeah Idk
ruby kelp
Hey guys
astral bane
Hey CEB guy
ruby kelp
Lol just broken ma dude
astral bane
Watch dogs is fun
ruby kelp
Yea honestly a great time killer
I just looked in the actual foxhole chat area on here lol
woven scarab
@earnest river very good, except ammo is costly
earnest river
556 or 5mm?
woven scarab
12.7mm
earnest river
oh
gray stump
Help me
karmic ether
@rose canyon I have so many questions, I'll just ask, what game is that and why are you dressed like that
short berry
@gray stump x 4 y 2
karmic ether
Ce pula mea ai zis despre mine, pisatule ? Pentru cultura ta generala, am fost in top la absolvire in clasa pentru Navy Seals, si am fost trimis in nenumarate atacuri secrete contra Al-Quaeda-i, si am peste 300 de tinte ucise confirmate. Am fost antrenat pentru luptele in zone urbane si de partisan, am fost delegat cel mai bun lunetist in intreaga armata din USA !Esti unu nimic, doar o tinta pentru mine. O sa te distrug cu asa precizie, de care nu sa mai vazut pe pamant, asculta ce pula mea zic ! Crezi ca poti scapa cand vorbesti asa urat cu mine pe internet ?? Gandeste putin, ratatule ! In timp ce vorbim acum, un prieten contacteaza o operatiune de spioni din USA si IP ul tau este descoperit si urmarit, asa ca pregatestete, cacatule ! @karmic ether
that's the navy seal copypaste, not finished yet though, it's only half, too bored
@lapis dagger
huh
Didnt ask this but it has to do
lapis dagger
hahaha nice. should've made it romanian themed too but it'll do
karmic ether
I don't know the branches of military in Romania
internet?
too much effort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JnGBs88sL0 The nostalgia
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little Pte? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Grunt course, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on enemy FOBs, and I have over 300 confirmed walls. I am trained in long range pistol warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire Warden forces. You are nothing to me but just another shirt. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Map, mark my fucking chat history. You think you can get away with saying that you can't bring me to the front over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of moles across the Colonial Forces and the current road you do Logistics on is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, Pte. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your supplies. You’re fucking dead, Pte. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can grief you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hammer. Not only am I extensively trained in contruction combat, but I have access to the entire Bmats supplies of the Wardens Logistics Forces and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the Warden lands, you little Pte. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” dismiss was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking keyboard. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn Pte. I will shit walls all over you and you will drown in them. You’re fucking dead, Pte. @crimson wadi
karmic ether
😉
gray stump
@short berry What about the solution?
drifting heath
I don't know the branches of military in Romania
@karmic ether You have a military?
drifting heath
Bloodsucker brigade?
crimson wadi
Romania have secret agents in every european country, didnt you know?
On every street corner you can see them, but you dont know
short berry
@gray stump try using the rules for powers
karmic ether
It's funny, that mountain branch uses mortars as their main weapon
gray stump
@short berry Im stupid
drifting heath
Is it to trigger rock fall?
fleet karma
@gray stump
a) 9y / (x^8)
b) b / a
gray stump
thx
still plaza
Best video for motivation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmIUvp0e1bw&t=485s
lusty yoke
ruby kelp
Good morning.
karmic ether
Good mornin'
unreal root
Buenos dias
sleek wolf
@gray stump i just guessed on all my math problems and i got a c in the class
raw birch
karmic ether
karmic ether
woven scarab
unreal root
Good night, @woven scarab . Have nice dreams. I'll be watching you through your window.
still plaza
"Disappeared"
lean turret
karmic ether
Thats justified
shrewd flume
Silenus calling someone a person is akin to this
ebon walrus
yeah saw that
olive thicket
SCP-106 has breached containment
flint swallow
We need a foxhole in MEDIEVAL TIMES
cinder quail
plain mountain
careful you don't get the black death
karmic ether
dim nova
Mods are gone post AC facts.
drifting heath
north aspen
Australian-Hungary. No, very much no.
woven scarab
@drifting heath https://i.imgur.com/QLf7YfO.jpg
native sable
Why would you do something like this and not ping me
Why! What kind of cruel person are you? I could’ve not seen this!
woven scarab
lusty yoke
Check out the Knights Tournament, a eu4 MP with prizes! https://youtu.be/TxzdYXkxMLo
still plaza
We need a foxhole in MEDIEVAL TIMES
@flint swallow you might wanna check out Gloria Victis, altough personally i think it has even more problems than foxhole
olive thicket
karmic ether
Enable New Vegas Bounties II or play honest hearts
Choices, choices.
I'd like the Survivalists rifle but then again I've got medicine stick and the ammo costs and hand and a leg
static glade
the BR5 grind for the Swedish on warthunder is such a pain
raw birch
Everything exept first 5 nations was mistake
static glade
i like the extra content.
i will say having a br1 tank front penning a kv1 is a bit ... weird
analog kernel
The bomb dropped on Hiroshima on August 6th at 8:15 AM local time. Russians invaded on August 9th at 4:00. The Supreme Council met at 10:30. The Prime Minster said it was impossible to continue the war, the Foreign Minister Togo wanted to agree with the Potsdam declaration provided there was a guarantee of the Emperor's position, the Navy secretary said they needed to make a diplomatic proposal. The Army and the Secretary of War had moved to impose martial law to stop any attempt at making peace. Shortly after 11:00 news of the bombing of Nagasaki hit.
By the end of this meeting the debate had split 3-3, with the prime minister, foreign secretary and secretary of the navy favoring the "one modification" principle which kept the emperor, with the secretary of war, chief of the army general staff, and chief of the navy general staff demanding additional terms including no occupation, right to self-disarm, and japanese deal with all japanese war criminals @crisp whale
at 14:30 the full cabinet met. Secretary of war said that a captured american pilot had claimed the US had 100 atom bombs. They remained split as the supreme council had been, and eventually appealed to the emperor to decide, who approved of the foreign minister's plan. The allies rejected this on August 12 and repeated the demand for full acceptance. Thereafter the prime minister said that they should refuse, the secretary of war returned to his "no occupation" demand, and the foreign secretary argued they would not get better terms.
The emperor expressed his desire to surrender but told the imperial family if the imperial system could not be preserved the war would continue. The navy minister said
I think the term is inappropriate, but the atomic bombs and the Soviet entry into the war are, in a sense, divine gifts. This way we don't have to say that we have quit the war because of domestic circumstances.
crisp whale
well darn that's some pretty interesting history
raw birch
Imagine timeline where we got land battles over Japan
olive thicket
Many more casualties
analog kernel
On Augest 13-14th at the advising of psychological experts, the US began dropping propaganda leaflets detailing the japanese offer and allied response (the bombing had stopped on the 12th, largely due to a mistake that they were forced to continue doing in order to avoid giving the impression they were abandoning diplomacy), some of which landed on imperial palace during the meeting, which had a strong impact on decision-making and led the japanese to believe that the allies would not accept any surrender short of terms. Yet they remained deadlocked.
While negotiaters were authorized to transmit the orders to surrender in plaintext, other conversations remained coded, stoking allied suspicion. The increase in coded military and diplomatic chatter to Japanese negotiaters led the Allies to believe an "all-out banzai attack" might have been imminent. In response the largest air-raid of the pacific war occured on the 14th, over 1000 planes with no losses. Among the targets was the last operational refinery in the japanese home islands, in Honshu, which produced 67% of their oil.
On August 14th the Emperor, his confident Kido, and the prime minister realized that the day would end either with acceptance of terms or a military coup. The emperor met with senior army and navy officials; several spoke in favor of fighting on, but Field Marshal Shonroku Hata did not; as leader of the Second Army (whose headquarters was in Hiroshima and was charged with defending the south from inevitable invasion), said he would not dispute the emperor's decision.
The Emperor finally met with the supreme council, where the three men from before: the two general chiefs of staff of navy and army and the secretary of war made their case for continuing, but the Emperor said his position would not change. The cabinet immediately ratified the emperor's wishes, sending it to the allies on 02:49, Washington time; and also decided to begin destroying documents. @crisp whale
red girder
Just stumbled back upon the original Crowfall Kickstarter
You know, the one from 2014
That says Crowfall was scheduled for release the end of 2016
Ho lordy lordy
What a mess
karmic ether
Crowfall?
red girder
Eh, I guess kind of like over the shoulder Foxhole is what it's trying to be
It's more like over the shoulder Albion Online if Albion Online was far less playable
But it's ok because it's being made by the guy that did Wizard 101 and said the only viable way to make money in gaming is microtransactions
So it should be good
olive thicket
karmic ether
red girder
The original comic image is amazing because it implicates the Peace that the man on the left fought for is not preferable to the conditions of the Second World War
It's trying to hard to put someone on a pedestal it insults the attempted target of praise
red girder
You wanna give me one thing that's preventing you from doing that?
Also maybe you want to look up what politics are, bro
karmic ether
nah bro
red girder
Sounds like we wasted each others time then, innit?
karmic ether
nah i got plenty of time
slate barn
I'm currently streaming 12 hours of Cory in the House.
slate barn
meme lore 😜
timid grotto
https://www.twitch.tv/tlg_gaming_community (Doing a giveaway for a copy of New World) 🙂 Charity of the Month is Wounded Warrior Project with $155 raised) $55 after official registration
quasi tundra
test
topaz hedge
Yes we can hear you
quasi tundra
was fixing my roles lmfao
topaz hedge
Right
sleek wolf
@timid grotto i pre-orderd new world 2 months before it was oroginally gonna release and then it changed : (
native sable
karmic ether
karmic ether
olive thicket
delicate iron
Hello
Just popping in to say that I saw a job posting on the Canada Job Bank and thought I would say hello!
🙂 I'm a 3d artist who just graduated college, Just writing up my cover letter now.
chrome flower
Good luck so we may see you with the Dev tag soon
storm perch
Yo, anybody know where the updating map went?
delicate iron
@chrome flower thanks for the encouragement!
Hopefully the Devs are having a safe and enjoyable Long Weekend 🙂
shadow parrot
intresting
plain mountain
wh
shadow parrot
?
shadow parrot
have you seen the drama about this. please dont subscribe you get hacked if you subscribe to this guy (serious)
plain mountain
..then why did you link to his youtube page?
drowsy cipher
what is france
lusty yoke
1.30 Catholicism Rework and Papal States missions and flavor such as Kingdom of God explained! https://youtu.be/izNbZd63fDY
crisp ridge
@drowsy cipher France is bacon
safe aspen
@lusty yoke Mate, you do nothing but post your videos here. This isn't how you advertise them.
Its not even Foxhole related in any way shape or form.
Post your videos in the EU4 discord.
astral bane
Is he advertising his own YT here
safe aspen
Yup.
charred vigil
who the fuck even plays EU IV
safe aspen
Its a fun game
chrome flower
Man i could hope to play EU IV. I have it but its just too complicated for me
safe aspen
@chrome flower It really aint that hard. Play as Portugal/Castile and you'll have an easy time of learning
Hell, or play as a Native American
Super easy to learn the different parts of the game
chrome flower
I tried portugal, got me face kicked in by some african country xD
safe aspen
Hm. Try playing in NA
chrome flower
Ok ill have to try that
short berry
play with caspar and me
you will get the hang of it in no time
right @safe aspen
I really want to play with the shattered world mod
sounds like good ole fun
safe aspen
@chrome flower Ya. I wouldn't mind teaching oyu.
If @short berry can figure it out. You can too.
@short berry Also we need to start our own game without Insanity
karmic ether
safe aspen
@short berry Wanna play now?
plain mountain
karmic ether
red girder
karmic ether
I did it better https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/203512636556574720/711681464064016434/unknown.png
sleek wolf
karmic ether
yah ever heard the saying "i'd walk a mile for a camel"
well i'd walk a mile for a QUAALUDE lemme tell ya
sleek wolf
@ebon walrus like my custom HOI4 map?
karmic ether
What is that
sleek wolf
supposed to be the foxhole world
sleek wolf
what i get to try mapping in HOI4
but yes @rose canyon this is what i get for trying to make a map with little skill
i hope you had a laugh
drowsy cipher
xD
karmic ether
potential submarine concept?
olive thicket
drowsy cipher
safe aspen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcrXhnIet6o @cerulean spindle @karmic ether
This is pretty cool to watch
Also its from that movie.
karmic ether
Ill look into it
sleek wolf
@drowsy cipher what gane?
cerulean spindle
Oh the camera work is incredible!
safe aspen
@cerulean spindle Here you go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNE4YXCiT0o @karmic ether
Just started listening to that just now
Pretty good
karmic ether
Mhmm
cerulean spindle
The arrangement is not that bad. The harmony progression is really interesting.
@safe aspen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4vw8HVc4NU&t=
Try it.
drowsy cipher
@drowsy cipher what gane?
@sleek wolf uncharted waters online
sleek wolf
I see
willow moon
karmic ether
Thats mental.
slate barn
If you're into asmr, this guy is awesome.
https://www.twitch.tv/mcgribbles
charred vigil
found you some good ASMR then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKWVNeDYZmU
proven bridge
ebon walrus
thank you skaj, very cool!
karmic ether
lol
lusty yoke
@safe aspen I mean I also talk here, not just advertise the videos, but sure man, won't post it again if it upsets people :/
Just thought it might be interesting for some people, since I know there are some of my friends in here that also play eu4
karmic ether
i personally dont think its problem
chrome flower
@safe aspen I dont have EU IV installed atm. But sure.
chrome flower
Now i do
cinder basin
that reload at the end is blasphemy
astral bane
I remember pissing in a IKEA demo toilet once, tthe staff there had to put up a sign saying "This toilet is a demo, do not pee into it" and block the toilet the next time I visit there
drifting heath
astral bane
drifting heath
still plaza
drifting heath
karmic ether
any boomers here from Infantry?
still plaza
holy crap why is everyone sliding
lyric gale
isnt what youtube is for?
ebon ore
so its ok for u to do it but bob doing it is off limits
plus i dont think bob has done anything to make him self look good
@me when u have a good enough reply
shrewd flume
That has died anyway, games launching with dlc ingame purchase bullshit just because they wanna keep having the 60 price
If they need more money they should be asking for it upfront instead of swindling it out of peoples pockets with nonsense that detracts from the game
lapis nebula
@low epoch Seriously I've never been passive aggressive with you or anyone because I like being up front. I've been up front with you on shit because I don't like talking shit behind people's back. I think he had a right to know because it is so bullshit of you to talk all this mad shit and never say it to his god damn face. I'd of done the same for you because I'm telling you they trash on you any chance they get and I'm don't appreciate it either fuckin way
You can't even directly talk shit to me you had to side a shitty little TXT file and tell me to eat shit because you can't stomach saying a single actual word to me right then and there
Unlike you who is notorious for that shit lol. Have fun shit talking behind my back ya whiny bitch of a human garbage can.
still cosmos
@karmic ether
Yes, I am from Infantry. Bughunt and Fleet best zones, change my mind.
native sable
scenic thunder
plain mountain
shrewd flume
topaz hedge
Ah Tom Scott....
ebon walrus
still want to cancel french
safe aspen
@plain mountain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj-x3FSUmVc Music for you
Reminds me of FOD every day
plain mountain
not quite my jam but good beat
past nimbus
Oh yeah for the Halos ye?
safe aspen
Mhm
past nimbus
Yeah
safe aspen
I have it for my Xbox
past nimbus
I can't wait for them to hit us with that halo 3 and the forge mode
safe aspen
Mhm
past nimbus
Hell fuck 3 just gove me forge mode
sleek wolf
i say one thing and the entire server is calling me a pedo
past nimbus
I wanna go back to those days of sitting in the forge and just fucking around
plain mountain
halo 3 and halo reach forge modes were awesome
lunar lava
@safe aspen great taste like always
safe aspen
ember coyote
Morning lads
lament bough
Holy shit my neighbor was killed.
topaz hedge
What
lament bough
My neighbor was shot and they were killed.
topaz hedge
Oh god
lament bough
Yeah.
What the fuck.
Jesus Christ that house was full of kids.
I don't know who.
topaz hedge
Jesus
lament bough
I...
I honestly don't want to think about guns right now.
I was writing a story about them a lot but now I honestly don't even want to touch it.
topaz hedge
Yeah....
ember coyote
Damn man
cinder basin
holy mother fucking beby jesus. i saw the gold fish right? and that reminded me they exist and now i want them
topaz hedge
What
cinder basin
i got food all is saved
topaz hedge
...
chilly arch
When is the next wsr
cloud fjord
pulsar osprey
drifting heath
The devs will write a message in #updates regarding starting time and layout of the next war
iron pawn
The devs will write a message in #updates regarding starting time and layout of the next war
@drifting heath thanks!
native sable
raw birch
Why killing people is bad again?
atomic meteor
lets not use those words thanks
wraith zodiac
Let’s keep game stuff in games yes
And ignore the fact that in german captured territories, the locals carried out most of the mass murders.
friendly artillery fire in foxhole
:^)
raw birch
And ignore the fact that in german captured territories, the locals carried out most of the mass murders.
@wraith zodiac
Just look at all that denial.
wraith zodiac
6gorillion amirite
raw birch
meme shitposting amirite
willow fjord
This is so wrong I start to doubt your history teacher. Who is it, Alex Jones?
wraith zodiac
I mean, how could they kill 8million.
Did you see all the graves of 10 million?
We will never forget the 12 million.
safe aspen
Guys, this really needs to not be so heated
Ya'll need to take a minute and cool down
wraith zodiac
I mean. Who has the devils soul to execute 15 million people?
raw birch
Implying every person killed has its own grave.
karmic ether
both of them are genocides
lament perch
on which point soviets excuted 20 millions?
karmic ether
the commies in the other hand get more crazy with the thanos stuff
wraith zodiac
Both are bad, except soviets had more time to do it.
Simply put
Let’s forget Holodmor
lament perch
i dont remeber such weird numbers. 2 millions are just unreal. The difference is nazis killed on purpouese
willow fjord
What are you talking about dude. What does it mean to kill on purpose?
atomic meteor
Let's chill with the Hitler olympics fellas. Nobody wins these.
wraith zodiac
It was not “industrialised killing” bullcrap propaganda
lament perch
holodomor is more or less a myth which mean soviets did something on porpouse there. Its more a missmanagement.
wraith zodiac
Oh yea, sure.
I mean, who could possibly kill people with food shortages.
But 5 bodies to be turned to ash per hour is realistic
lament perch
for whicht dumb reason? you dont build schools and other stuff in the ukraine and try to kill by strave at the same point. Also straving was in other parts of soviet union at this time too
willow fjord
Is Katyń massacre "killing on purpose"? Or perhaps all these Stalin political enemies that suddenly disappeared? Or maybe convincing poor rural rednecks to kill slightly less poor rural owners that fed them? Or maybe these rural poor people dying of starvation afterwards?
sinful bridgeBOT
Anonski#3653 was muted | Alright. We need everyone to cool down. Ask to be unmuted.
karmic ether
hitler make the live torch
sinful bridgeBOT
Vernichter#7924 was muted | I know you came in late but you need to cool down too. Ask to be unmuted.
karmic ether
since them the olyimpics are cursed
safe aspen
Like I said, ya'll need to drop this conversation or take it somewhere else.
Everyone gets way too heated over it
safe aspen
Its less about the theme and more about the way its handled.
karmic ether
better to get inform before talk
safe aspen
It'd be one thing if it was handled in a civilized manner but 95% of the time it isn't
karmic ether
im out chigga
safe aspen
So its easier to just forgo letting it happen
karmic ether
time to take the blue pill
atomic meteor
Like I said, if your discussion comes down to "Hitler Olympics" with extra salt, it's time to stop.
raw birch
Just stop. Everyone has done some crap in their history.
karmic ether
the hitler olyimpics invent the living flame to the entire city
raw birch
Stop pointing fingers at everyone.
north aspen
Wait, you mean there isn't such a thing as a Utopian perfect nation?
atomic meteor
hmmm
sinful bridgeBOT
8ball#9220 was muted | Alright. You can get a mute too. Ask to be unmuted.
safe aspen
Anyone else?
atomic meteor
🤔
safe aspen
@raw birch That said, I appreciate your effort in trying to stop it.
Thank you for that.
willow fjord
oof
willow fjord
I appreciate you living up to the name dukesalt
native sable
Wow didn’t think that would happen... Probably should have known better than to post a horseshoe theory meme.
karmic ether
Did it happen? Yes. But 8 million? I am not entirely sure.
hollow veldt
We need able bodied soldiers to defend the republic
4chan bots are overwhelming our lines
karmic ether
To defend fucking what?
raw birch
4chan bots are overwhelming our lines
@hollow veldt
I am Alpharius
karmic ether
this server is now owned by soviet sponge gang
i just read the argument bout nazis and shit and will say both soviets and nazis were terrible
karmic ether
Extremely cringe.
karmic ether
I do know star wars a tad
scenic thunder
wise pier
Not even too bad
ebon walrus
Oh hell yeah
Nothing like catapult launching an A-10 from a carrier deck to smack the living shit out of the coronavirus
Also a british carrier lmao
safe aspen
@short berry Fucking bullshit this is.
Fucking 1448 and they decided to ally everyone.
Everyone.
karmic ether
Lmao just play England, sell Maine and you're golden
England is the easiest nation to play, there is no way you can fuck up.
short berry
there is no fun in playing the easiest nation
karmic ether
Domination is always fun
safe aspen
@karmic ether I don't need to play England to dominate
That and I'm doing achievements
north aspen
Whenever I play England, I get killed by France early game. And also their's a civil war that happens, and I end up with no manpower.
karmic ether
Just have a kid
France is easy to kill
Ally Castile and Austria, royal marriages for heir.
Sell Maine to provence
Conquer Ireland and Scotland, then focus on colonialism then on
scenic thunder
ebon walrus
checkmate liberals
karmic ether
b r u h
plain mountain
yay doughnuts
maybe not worth 2 hours
then again I haven't had krispy kreme in forever so I dunno what quality's like
crystal thistle
mods finally woke up
crystal thistle
lol vox and foe were shaming wolfie's reddit post
north aspen
Chess found a Discord
crystal thistle
then chess told us to join that instead
topaz hedge
SomethingSomething Flat earth
safe aspen
Which post?
crystal thistle
we learnt that flat earthers are really religious
and hate people who like math
oh and morale degenerates
keen saddle
Yes
karmic ether
It hangs on nothing it doesnt rest on something
keen saddle
But they are fucking stupid
karmic ether
Flat earth is flat earth because it makes your brain go flat
north aspen
Jesus =/= God, are you sure you are Christian?
karmic ether
Also there is a allgasnobrakes video of a flatearthcon or whatever
crystal thistle
Its all just a simulation anyway
plain mountain
@safe aspen but caspar they're specifically NOT the flat earth society!!!
karmic ether
He said he was a Jehoviah Witness if it is ranty man
They dont believe in the trinity
swift grail
They're trying to argue the logic of the words used in the English translation of the Bible lmao
keen saddle
Careful they will show up at your door
crystal thistle
he said "Religion and logic dont go well together" first true thing i heard anyone say
karmic ether
You guys should go watch this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H110vCGvTmM
plain mountain
they're the controlled opposition, duh
safe aspen
That still doesn't make sense.
north aspen
They are controlled and oppose us?
keen saddle
Jesus this is fun
karmic ether
People get really retarded when they use religion to answer something religion is not supposed to answer
swift grail
Fucking Arianists
karmic ether
What does worlds shape have to do with some guy 2000 years ago and his moral teachings
swift grail
We beat u 1400 years ago wtf
north aspen
Everything the Vatican says is a lie...
safe aspen
Religion =/ Logic.
Religion is the power of belief.
Science is the power of logic.
Both can be right without being wrong.
karmic ether
keen saddle
The pope himself said that the big bang and evolution dont actually contradict the church teachings
karmic ether
Sad!
north aspen
Anyone else catch that?
karmic ether
i have strong opinions on some of this but im muslim so i shut up
karmic ether
Its just that i dont want to intervene in Christians and flat earthers conversation