Today I witnessed a Warden shoot a member of the Press. His fellow reporter then held him in his arms and provided him comfort until he bled out. I then witnesses the reporter carry his fallen brother back home. My heart is broken. Those press guys share a true bromance ❤️
#general-discussion
wise heron
scenic thunder
wardens be warcrimming again
sharp remnant
Yes and more are to come
hearty pebble
@winged oriole 
full spruce
wise heron
^^^^ So true
We like to get crates of shovels and drop one by a Warden fob and watch the world burn 😉
full spruce
i stop them dont do that , what happened? i am baned by ptes,many times,and my steamates also baned by ptes
so,bye bye ,democratic foxhole, see u next war,may be
drifting heath
We like to get crates of shovels and drop one by a Warden fob and watch the world burn
We do the same to you. If you think about it, it's really stupid. Both sides are suffering now, but what have we gained?
native sable
A bunch of salty vets who don’t understand that there’s no difference between a foxhole frontline and a trench frontline.
drifting heath
A bunch of salty vets who don’t understand that there’s no difference between a foxhole frontline and a trench frontline.
But there is a major difference between foxholes and trenches
paper timber
a foxhole isn't going to fire at both sides
a trench is going to be equally as effective for both sides given poor planning
and poor planning is somewhat common
static glade
just incase you need some brain cells killed off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed6S-4ng8fM
abstract furnace
vague shale
woven scarab
@karmic ether I hope they worked with the FH2 devs
I tried PR once
Didn't really like it
And the mic requirement for multiplayer might as well be a wall
lusty yoke
still plaza
how can you not have a mic already
that's like not knowing how to take screen shots
and posting pictures taken with phone instead
pliant notch
@native sable All Defensive systems in foxhole that are NON AI have a neutral effect on the war. They can both help and hurt depending on the situation. You may build a wall to protect something behind it but when the boogie man comes walking all you have made is yourself is a coffin that you can leave from. Foxhole has weapons that shoot over walls therefore the wall is not useful. The trench is a hold in the ground unless your team has a person in that hole it is useless to you. You can do things to make it better, like Barb Wire or AI covering people from getting in, but once the enemy in trench its not their friend an not yours. Therefore the only good defense in foxhole is the AI structure as they are on your side, and multiple your firepower against your enemy. Trenched are just conduit to get you safely to a bunker or AI firing position in my opinion. There is a reason that Trench warfare i not longer a thing in warfare. to sit in a trench and be stationary is to count yourself as good as dead. I have never been a strong supporter of Trenches in foxhole
still plaza
that meme still makes me laugh
native sable
@pliant notch Trenches don’t cost bmats and are more resilient than Gunnests.
scenic thunder
having the option is good tho
lean turret
Only good "trenches" were rifle garrison combo ones before bunker rework ;P
scenic thunder
also they can be used offesinvely for sieging
abstract furnace
abstract furnace
ooof
raw birch
unreal root
olive thicket
astral moss
new HLL ballistics update and new map
finally a game that cares about its ballistics
native sable
drifting heath
north aspen
Dixerant, I don’t know what it means.
proud ingot
A bunch of salty vets who don’t understand that there’s no difference between a foxhole frontline and a trench frontline.
@native sable do we even play the same game dude?
neat lichen
unreal root
It's easier to jump into a trench than pressing Q to enter a foxhole.
topaz hedge
Its easier to die in a trench than in a foxhole
unreal root
You die the same when a gas nade falls near.
topaz hedge
At least you dont have to worry about a sudden bayo charge
north aspen
There sure isn't barbed wire on the side though
unreal root
What do you build on the sides? Rifle garrison or just build regular barbed wire
topaz hedge
Well you also dont just build a foxhole just by itself, you build a field of them
topaz hedge
In most cases if you are defending a base/font, you would have a field of defenses covering you
unreal root
That is if you have the time and materials to build them.
topaz hedge
It's time well spent
unreal root
I'm talking about no having enemies shooting at you while building.
topaz hedge
True that, but that's why we should always protect the builder's flanks
proud ingot
the trench you build on monday, will be used against you on friday
the wall you build at 5pm will give cover to the enemy mortar at 7pm
north aspen
The Foxhole you build will be dead by morning
proud ingot
but not used against you
topaz hedge
The foxhole you build on monday will likely stay until friday or gets destroyed before then, but at least it aint taken by the enemy
proud ingot
exactly eagle
north aspen
Build Foxholes, you don’t have to be too smart
topaz hedge
What's longer building trench or building foxhole?
drifting heath
That's when the Sgt says: “But the trench costs no Bmats”
topaz hedge
and the pte kept digging away...
drifting heath
I can't remember ever seeing a Pte with a shovel. But I saw Cpls, Sgts and WO2s with them
topaz hedge
good enough
north aspen
WO2s? Even I am not safe. I might start building a random trench at any moment.
drifting heath
I once saw a Brig with a shovel and thought Is that guy crazy? but then he dumped it into a bush 
topaz hedge
Thank god I got promoted to OCDt then
Bonfires should be a thing where we can burn items
north aspen
Somehow the one place where no one can be off topic went as off topic as it can possibly get
proud ingot
some wars ago a guy was trying to get me banned because i was hiding all the shovels, he thought i was griefing
topaz hedge
What rank was he?
topaz hedge
ofc
proud ingot
10 minutes ago at suns hollow a sgt was asking for a harvester
i still havent figured out what he ment
topaz hedge
He...asked for a harvester?
proud ingot
he was just fighting at the front calling for a harvester
topaz hedge
oh
proud ingot
"hey chess, bring a harvester up here"
topaz hedge
in the middle of a warzone...
proud ingot
yea, he might was trying to say smth different
north aspen
To delete the Foxholes, have to find room for a trench somehow.
proud ingot
lmao
knotty lotus
Harvesters do a good job on AT turrets, as long as they're disabled 😄
drifting heath
Or did he mean a harvester as a job. Somebody taking the stuff from the backpacks and bringing it back to FOB
topaz hedge
That would be called gathering
drifting heath
Scavenger, gatherer, harvester. The process of work is similar
Or body harvesters, aka ambulances/medics
topaz hedge
ahem recyclers
proud ingot
i dont know what the guy ment, he logged off now. tried to find him and ask
he probably didnt find a harvester and got mad
topaz hedge
wonder why he needed one..
cinder quail
To harvest the letter r, obviously
The letter r is a crucial components to rifles
You gotta be big brain about this stuff
proven bridge
topaz hedge
hmm
cold dock
@sleek wolf
I tried that but it didnt work
The files are all dependent on one another
sleek wolf
have you tried a file converter
cold dock
idk if there's a converter that can help
because the only files i can use are already .uasset
but they are either dependencies
or the texture is in the wrong format most often PNG/RGBA
The texture needs to be DTX_1
and the dependent files are
but those are dependencies which the game doesnt take
sleek wolf
yes
cold dock
but the texture must be in the format DTX_1
which i can produce
but it comes in as 3 files instead of just one
ive tried making a separate game and then extracting the files
but it just came out as a .tga file which was the original type before i put it through unreal
What I'm pretty sure I need is to be able to produce a .uasset with no dependencies
Im going to have to ask a dev at this point
@hasty thistle Can I have permission to ping Julian? That or can you help me?
still plaza
I enjoy making dumb pictures at GIMP
shrewd flume
compact flint
@quaint moat learn to spam monks
and metsuke
does not hurt to leave a few garrison to reinforce the place
and increase repression
quaint moat
but i need all my men to throw into the meat grinder
quaint moat
i just had one main army
compact flint
u want easy money, early game go balls and make a fleet of trading ships and cap at least 1-2 trading posts
quaint moat
and i split a third off for home region
compact flint
home region don't need much defense
quaint moat
i will attempt next time
compact flint
no one will backflank you as much
quaint moat
it did
compact flint
until you hit realm divide
quaint moat
i got an ocean invasion in 30 minutes
compact flint
or you basically have yourself hostile against people around you
if u want easy naval superiority
wait for the black ship
quaint moat
1500 man from boat vs 200 garrison epic
compact flint
who were u playing as
quaint moat
yyee
compact flint
do yourself a favor
start with shimazu
or chokosobe
or the third one which i always forget
they're way better starter clans/faction for total war
quaint moat
i was doing fine until i went too far out and didnt garrison anyone
cause all my towns rioted and all my troops were halfway across the map
compact flint
spam monks
quaint moat
so i went bankrupt and couldnt do anything
compact flint
metsuke also helps
quaint moat
i shall try
compact flint
if a town is still high resisting
just lower tax rate
for a turn or a few rounds
lower tax , gives u lesser income but longer term
allows more growth
and and less tax burden
don't forget u can exempt provinces from tax manually if u want but i rarely do that
quaint moat
if i get back on tonight i will try being less agressive
compact flint
and date is one of the harder factions so i can see why u were fucked kek
compact flint
might as well go make a campaign with the first 3 starter factions
also just spam archers
quaint moat
maybe
compact flint
in a game where matchlocks are the most advanced
and no shields
mass archer in an army makes things easy
quaint moat
samuri vs armstrong cannons
compact flint
kek unless they have cannons yes
quaint moat
archer and cheap spear men to stop cavalry charge
quaint moat
i think i just need to figure out the fighting more
because throwing all men in a line hasnt worked the best
compact flint
no don't do that
it works like the usual cycle of sword beats spears which beats cav and so forth
also don't go spamming yari samurai
relatively one of the shittiest units in vanilla game
quaint moat
i had like 2 samurai
compact flint
naginta samurai on the other hand is a tank and basically noice
quaint moat
and i just put them in with the ashigaru for when they were charged by other footmen
quaint moat
also do troops not auto engage sometimes and do others
quaint moat
because they just stand there and die sometimes
quaint moat
hm
compact flint
the backlines can't hit the enemy anyways so they just have to wait their turn like a normal unit
quaint moat
so that is why i flank
compact flint
mhm
u can use the nodachi samurai for that
no dachi samurai special is charge effect
flank enemy sides, charge in , cause mass casualties on enemy and probably itself
then retreat
mass charge shock factor
quaint moat
amazing
compact flint
date faction has good nodachi samurai
quaint moat
date were fun
compact flint
mhm
charred vigil
I prefer Oda
quaint moat
i liked being in constant dange
charred vigil
for obvious reason
quaint moat
r
charred vigil
flanking charges only really work on cavarly, no-dachi is when you want to crash into Yari Ashigarus
it absolutely crashes them
quaint moat
what about the Obama in fall of the samuri
lusty yoke
quaint moat
jajajaj
compact flint
ah the obama faction
basically its showing u how stupid strong guns are against men in armor
charred vigil
My castle defense as Oda is Matchlocks everywhere
compact flint
they're fun
quaint moat
obama rules japan
charred vigil
but holy shit
the portuguese Tercios
quaint moat
bulletproof samurai
quaint moat
i head out now have a good day guys
quaint moat
thank you for wisdom sensei dark
compact flint
lmao i still lose to people who uses matchlocks and guns but np
charred vigil
yeah, I think only naginata units can somewhat hold it
compact flint
naginata samurai are your main tanks later on anyways
and your go to anti cav
that pic is an example of an army that works without cav at all 
compact flint
Choko and their main power archers
Makes any sieging become “Shoot till empty then clean up” routine
verbal ingot
When everyone is playing fancy new games and your PC can't run any of them.
astral bane
foxhole best game
edgy siren
It's pretty fun
peak raptor
wise torrent
chrome flower
Ah yes prospect for sawdust inside Trotskis head
fierce swan
cinder quail
Armor
sleek wolf
anyone else see the new season for star wars the clone wars
cinder quail
It’s pretty good
sleek wolf
you seen the last 2 episodes?
cinder quail
All of them except the newest, which I’m starting now
drowsy cipher
sleek wolf
post scriptum?
oblique junco
It looks like BF2:PR
native sable
sleek wolf
at least its not snake porn
chrome flower
I wanna be a necromancer cuz they can never be too late
abstract furnace
north aspen
Cat
full spruce
Who knows how many days the shortest conquest is?
north aspen
I think it was 2
north aspen
I'm not sure, I wasnt there, but I think it had something to do with the cache wars
native sable
shrewd flume
latent jacinth
Average Canadian firearms. Nice job Justin.
shrewd flume
We are one step closer to making music with AI
drowsy cipher
@sleek wolf pr got ww2 update
charred vigil
2.5 days
lusty yoke
severe venture
woven scarab
I wanna be a necromancer cuz they can never be too late
necromancers are late healers
sleek wolf
scenic thunder
only battlefront 1 or the second too?
red girder
That's the original battlefront cover
sleek wolf
@compact flint both versions are working
Just they finally did bf1
@red girder@scenic thunder
red girder
Glorious days
scenic thunder
cool
cinder quail
BF2 is just horribly laggy in online play
raw birch
woven scarab
I mean
duh?
Bows are baller in Bannerlord too
laughs in Battanian Fian Champion
compact flint
@quaint moat bows are good for siege defense yes
quaint moat
thought i wasnt gonna make it
compact flint
Even if u don’t
It’s best to inflict as much casualties as u can
Rather than auto resolve which basically gives them the win
topaz hedge
https://youtu.be/s8myMbI26V8
Wrong Warden YouTube
north aspen
What if I said, no
drifting heath
If your stack is big enough, why even bother with a minuscule garrison. Takes time, same outcome
abstract furnace
vivid notch
just watched clone wars season 7, and holy hell they really went beyond huh
abstract furnace
jade shuttle
paper timber
real men get stuck in a traffic jam in the netherlands
jade shuttle
raw birch
https://coub.com/view/2db1k9
When you put 5000 sulfur into private refinery
lethal plank
lusty yoke
elfin hazel
wraith pelican
Says failed to download chardcter profile 1 when i click play??
sleek wolf
still plaza
north aspen
elfin hazel
dude, is that some VR skyrim?
sleek wolf
Yes
sleek wolf
Praise pelinal
I downloaded the great war mod, and i have the divine ctusader armor
@elfin hazel and i killed 100 or so.elves so far
sleek wolf
slaughter the elves
willow fjord
That's racist
sleek wolf
nope
willow fjord
And considering it's elves it's also homophobic
sleek wolf
God bless America
topaz hedge
Mars when
sleek wolf
Next year
topaz hedge
Ooooh
woven scarab
tbh we should've gone a second time like 20 years ago
woven scarab
Even now I still think Artemis is going to end up underfunded and binned before the decade is out
ebon walrus
I got a feeling we are finally gonna do it
ebon walrus
either way at least its giving money to reaserch in space exploration
topaz hedge
I wanna experience the moon landings the same way my parents did
ebon walrus
except in 1440p
ebon walrus
"That took a while"
topaz hedge
Come to think of it, what famous quote will come out of the mars landings
woven scarab
original 1969 resolution best resolution
topaz hedge
probably somewhere along the lines of "Finally......"
woven scarab
"Yolo!" jumps off ladder
ebon walrus
except they are on the starship lander
topaz hedge
"Hey there aliens, it's me...ya boi"
woven scarab
"Yeet!"
ebon walrus
so its just a 100ft drop
woven scarab
I hope neither
topaz hedge
Here's a fun thought, what if for Halloween, instead of dead harvest, we do some kind of War of the Worlds event
paper timber
i would hate for it to be a self-referential quote
i.e. mentioning Armstrong or how 'they'll never top what he said'
also I would absolutely LOVE a War of the Worlds event
woven scarab
Only if one side gets to be the aliens
topaz hedge
Then they'd send me to the moon
paper timber
only if one side are the aliens or if we still aren't fighting each other like fucking idiots
it's a zombie apocalypse and we're still fighting each other?
ebon walrus
there is a war to be won fool
topaz hedge
What if it was like the original dead harvest when collies and wardens are on one side and the aliens on the other
paper timber
this is Foxhole, which I like to believe is grounded in some form of reality
topaz hedge
I mean Lochan melted due to climate change
woven scarab
Imagine that though, one side is aliens, other side is a mix of colonial and warden on the same team. Straight out of Turtledove.
ebon walrus
now off to the bulwark!
paper timber
we aren't orcs from 40k who just want WAAGH no matter what
also @woven scarab that's how Dead Harvest/War of the Worlds-style event should be
ebon walrus
caoiva broke before the wardens did
woven scarab
The Worldwar series is the fan name given to a series of eight alternate history science fiction novels by Harry Turtledove. Its premise is an alien invasion of Earth during World War II, and includes Turtledove's Worldwar tetralogy; as well as the Colonization trilogy; and the novel Homeward Bound.
topaz hedge
Yeah I'd like to see that
paper timber
german tanks with allied supply lines alone is interesting enough
but then you sprinkle in aliens and shit and it just gets better and better
topaz hedge
Imagine if we use nukes against the aliens
paper timber
what if the whole event is just buying time for nukes to be prepared and launched
topaz hedge
and meanwhile a certain naval clan decides to name their special gunboat "ThunderChild"
paper timber
constantly fighting a losing battle but holding out long enough to prepare the nukes
ebon walrus
we would lose before we teched nukes lol
paper timber
I have an unhealthy obsession over the Thunder Child
ebon walrus
use all the petrol
paper timber
if all techs are unlocked from the start then it might work
woven scarab
Bows and arrows against the lightning
topaz hedge
I'm imagining that to prevent the humans being completley overun, the event goes for a certain time period before the aliens would "die from the microbial organisms"
Like how it was in the original book
And victory would be determined by who had more territory
woven scarab
"They haven't seen the heatray yet."
topaz hedge
I need to read War of the Worlds again
paper timber
"There they are! What did I tell you!?"
i personally listen to Jeff Wayne's musical version perhaps a little bit too often
topaz hedge
PressCorps pulls of a Orson Wells-like comentation of the war with the aliens
woven scarab
i personally listen to Jeff Wayne's musical version perhaps a little bit too often
Bro same
"Did we just become best friends?"
The music's just so damn good
topaz hedge
imagining 6 Field Artilleries attempting to take down a single tripod while listening to this
sleek wolf
@ebon walrus when did we go a second time?
oh wait
does that count?
i mean we never landed on the moon
we just circled around it
ebon walrus
the apollo program landed multiple times lol
sleek wolf
im talking about human landings
ebon walrus
...yes?
It wasn't neil driving those moon buggies around lmao
jeez you made me concerned that I didn't know my space history lmao
midnight anvil
quality
potent ginkgo
@still cosmos
still cosmos
Yes
potent ginkgo
@tidal pond
unborn slate
@frozen cedar Useless goddess is best goddess
frozen cedar
@unborn slate yes
lusty yoke
proven gull
When the Collies start overrunning your foxhole but youve got a full carbine and are bleeding out
karmic ether
do my eyes decieve me or is that an FN-5-7?
proven gull
Yeah the handgun us
I'm firing some modified AR that can shoot 223 and 557
With a 12 times scope for some reason (not my gun my brother in law's)
With a 100 round mag
karmic ether
jesus
proven gull
My wifes family loves guns
I also fired an AK-47, stockless and with stock, 3 M4s and m-16s, an AR-15 chambered in 22, 357 magmum, 44 magnum and a Glock 30, and an m1911 and a pistol shotgun which I didn't even know existed
And dragunov
I probably blew $200 in ammo
karmic ether
i only own an AKM
karmic ether
i hunt deer with my AK
maiden fern
Hunting with an ak platform 
scenic thunder
topaz hedge
oh no
lusty yoke
native sable
still plaza
what
scenic thunder
Warthunder meme?
pallid nova
Just a survey
olive thicket
woven scarab
@short berry You better have been quiet for 2 minutes
also I'm stealing that picture
short berry
@woven scarab lol I almost tear up every year
scenic thunder
lmao look a responsible nation
here we gona get a second quarantine because idiots be trhowing parties
woven scarab
@sleek wolf
The National Monument on Dam Square (Dutch: Nationaal Monument op de Dam) is a 1956 cenotaph in Amsterdam, Netherlands. A national Remembrance of the Dead ceremony is held at the monument every year on 4 May to commemorate the casualties of World War II and subsequent armed conflicts.[1][2]
sleek wolf
so dutch version of America's memorial day
woven scarab
except for everyone and not just armed forces
I think memorial day's only for armed forces?
sleek wolf
it can be for anyone
but we do it mainly for the ones who fought and bled for our country
woven scarab
Half the wreaths laid down each year are for civilians
sleek wolf
but its also on star wars day
both cheer and sadness on the same day
while i celebrate star wars ( not really i just get free star wars movies ) you remember the fallen
woven scarab
cheer is the day after
Liberation Day (Dutch: Bevrijdingsdag) is a public holiday in the Netherlands celebrated each year on 5 May to mark the end of the occupation by Nazi Germany during World War II. It follows the Remembrance of the Dead (Dodenherdenking) on 4 May.
raw birch
forest arch
Hey bois, If you see somebody called Free bost don´t let it inside the server.
willow fjord
"dutch version of America's memorial day"
Dude if anything it's the other way around
We had 3 holidays from 1 may
One is post communistic work day, then the flag day and then the constitution day
sleek wolf
cool for you
olive thicket
topaz hedge
Cha Cha real..... smooth??
native sable
karmic ether
b r u h m o m e n t
native sable
proven bridge
topaz hedge
“You wanna know how I got these smiles?”
ebon walrus
oat
karmic ether
new question what the fuck is oat
paper timber
no that's porridge
drifting heath
I'm not sure there is a big difference between the two
karmic ether
what is oat?
topaz hedge
What defines an oat?
karmic ether
the stuff in oatmeal
i found what oatmeal means "Oatmeal is a type of coarse flour made of hulled oat grains that have either been milled, steel-cut, or rolled. Ground oats are also called "white oats". Steel-cut oats are known as "coarse oatmeal", "Irish oatmeal" or "pinhead oats". Rolled oats can be either thick or thin"
i also found what the fuck oat is
"The oat, sometimes called the common oat, is a species of cereal grain grown for its seed, which is known by the same name. "
drifting heath
Question: Are you another Darth alt?
karmic ether
who is darth?
maiden fern
He is making too much sense to be darth
Darth would just be complaining about everyone hating him
Classic victim complexe
woven scarab
restive talon
twin forum
Not entirely sure if this is the right channel for something like this? But also Foxhole medics
ebon walrus
Heer X US Army
topaz hedge
Also known as the biggest cross-over in human history
ebon walrus
fanfic
topaz hedge
Something not even History Channel would tell you at midnight
raw birch
oh, and year later japanese war criminals were yeeted
Also Prague uprising happened 5th
Copenhagen was liberated, but nobody cares
Oh, and tomorrow is also a good date
Hindenburg crashed May 6th
ebon walrus
F
topaz hedge
May doesn't sound like a good month
sharp remnant
Yeah that battle was wild
topaz hedge
Wermacht x US army vs SS
raw birch
It is good month. Germans was put to their place and Germany was divided as nature intended.
ebon walrus
Germans vs Nature seems to be a common theme
raw birch
"Really it's-it's like the Hindenburg footage. Ya-ya ever see that? Just, absolutely breathtaking...until you realize everyone's screwed."
Felix just described Foxhole
lusty yoke
shrewd flume
oak anchor
Flame throwers and gas syphons when?
lusty yoke
You guys should really check this new game out, it's coming into Early access tomorrow! https://youtu.be/1Ivv1N292SU
olive thicket
polar osprey
static glade
@shrewd flume you might get a kick out of this then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeping_crucifix_in_Mumbai
woven scarab
Every single time
https://i.imgur.com/OHbmfbV.png
shrewd flume
short berry
pewpew
safe aspen
Pew pew
wind otter
vivid osprey
short berry
wraith pelican
can someone explain to me what radio backpacks do?
drowsy cipher
they spot intel around you in a small radius @wraith pelican
the intel then is seen by the team in the world map
wraith pelican
does there need to be a watch tower near me?
drowsy cipher
negative!
wraith pelican
or do players need a radio in hand? for other people to see the updated backpack intel?
drowsy cipher
the radio backpack is pretty much a mini portable watch tower
the backpack also serves as a radio
short gorge
and it acts a radio
drowsy cipher
automatically updating map intel
wraith pelican
gothcha but
are the only people that see the updated map intel people that have radios?
sleek wolf
yes
wraith pelican
if not, then (second question) what is the point of radi-
ah ok
is that useful at all then? considering no one walks around with a radio?
drowsy cipher
are the only people that see the updated map intel people that have radios?
@wraith pelican when people die and respawn or they interact with a FOB or TH their map intel is updated
so its useful for a large portion of the team, not only for people carrying radios
@sleek wolf ❤️ 
wraith pelican
aaah
sleek wolf
yes leo
drowsy cipher
np! 
sleek wolf
thank you
karmic ether
small organisms that emit light
flint shard
algae
karmic ether
these guys specifically
abstract furnace
I see
neat holly
Super cool videos if you can find them. Puts some lofi beats to relax and study to on in the background and you've got a winner.
native sable
trim yarrow
f
topaz hedge
Nuke the house
static jay
bring a flamethrower or throw a green ash
lusty yoke
anyone here into bannerlord? https://youtu.be/ed20AGmb0is
finite stag
ebon walrus
Lol
frozen cedar
drifting heath
It's probably deserved
raw birch
lusty yoke
gritty forge
wow this game is absolute shit, in such a sorry state, should have grabbed a refund while i still could have off of steam.
north aspen
It could be worse
woven scarab
unreal root
@abstract nacelle Me: Can you switch parents?
You: No
Me: Well, that's your answer.
Learn to live with it.
reef root
wise torrent
kind birch
At least for the temperature portion of things, being used to Fahrenheit especially, the difference numerically between freezing and boiling point is "greater" in Fahrenheit, without going into decimals for values in between. Like, today it's gonna be about 65f, which is 18.33c. Comparatively to freezing, 32f vs 0c, there's just more whole numbers to work with. 95f is a pretty hot day for example, and simply sounds hotter emphatically than 35c, which is just as hot. For those of us used to Fahrenheit, the values just work.
short berry
35c doesnt sound hot to you because you've only experienced 35c in Fahrenheit
somber viper
https://study.com/academy/lesson/metric-system-vs-imperial-system.html
https://blog.stakeventures.com/articles/in-defence-of-imperial-units
@hasty thistle
I actually didn't realize how old the history of the Imperial system was
short berry
65f sounds like asphalt should melt for me, despite that its just as hot a nice summer day
somber viper
I bought into the "it's just Americans being stupid" theory too
short berry
there is nothing to defend about imperial units. they are old and archaic. used only because there was no better system
scenic thunder
I mean imperial so at lesst related to an empire
short berry
everybody is typing
scenic thunder
Dont think americans ever denominated themselves as an empire
shrewd flume
Im fairly certain that america just didn't recieve their units of measurement in time to switch over and thats why they have not switched over
somber viper
@short berry I guess you could just ignore everything in those posts if you want to keep being edgy lol
shrewd flume
I think the vessel that bought those standard units was intercepted by pirates
hasty thistle
Alright. I can accept that. I actually didnt know about the countries being listed as metric but still using imperial for some things. Canada does that so it makes sense other countries are too. This actually sheds some light on why our system is 'mixed'. I always thought it was just because we bordered on the US
short berry
it has more to do with a certain frenchman that was normal sized for his time
napoleon, its old nappy
hasty thistle
But its true, I definitely would find it easier to measure, say, the length of my living-room couch using feet/inches. Its just easier to write, measure, and remember
than 1m 10cm, 6mm
shrewd flume
America is using metric system for calculating their imperial units so it works internationally
They are part of the agreement even i think
The people just.. dont use it
short berry
I mean the only reason its easier is because youre used to it. I would laugh in your face if you'd ask me to use imperial units
scenic thunder
Translating doesnt always work
hasty thistle
No I dont think so, because in Canada we're raised on metric. I still end up using imperial for some things
somber viper
I'm not sure if Rem is even being serious anymore
scenic thunder
Theyve crashed at leadt 2 space probes because someone mixed up with metric/imperial
somber viper
Like he's gotta be trolling to be this thicc
short berry
I mean, I dont know how you measure things. but I grab a measuring lint and go around my room. maybe if you'd make steps you'd measure differently?
scenic thunder
In international space program stuff
shrewd flume
Being able to use both in the end is probably just smarter, because a system of measurement is meant to measure things and as long as you can measure correctly it doesn't matter what it is
I could make a system and call it farts and every 1,2446 meters is a gigafart and if i can measure within that who cares
scenic thunder
Its not really about what is smarter but what is standarized
turns out more poepl use metric than imperial
both systems are okay
hasty thistle
I always used to think it was just because that's how I learned it. But I never really questioned why I had to learn to use height in imperial, and minute measurements in metric. The article smokeage linked suggests the reason is because some things dont require minute measurement. Some things do. If you're doing approximations, for example, imperial is easier. If you need precision, metric is easier. So naturally, a country like Canada ends up using a bit of both depending on application.
Like, if im measuring a person for a tight-fitting shirt, ill use metric, because I need it to be precise.
But if im just trying to figure out their waistline to figure out if they're a medium or a small, its probably easier to use inches
scenic thunder
thats a meh explanation
hasty thistle
Anyway. Interesting stuff all the same 🙂 Thanks for the article
scenic thunder
if I want to be rough with metric system I can judt no use small units
somber viper
Yeah I actually learned some more today about it all too
scenic thunder
I can guess the house sofa lenght in 10s of centimeters
shrewd flume
In the end the global population needs to use something same because it would cost less money for people to calculate things in different places.
somber viper
I definitely give the Imperial system a little more credit now after learning it has some actual advantages
rather than just being "easier" to visualize due to body based measurements
scenic thunder
say its stupid to say a person in milimiters? but I can just say ik roughly 19k militers tall
I literally used 2 numbers
in the end its easy to vidualize any mesuring system if you are used to it
its like how tv likes to ise football fields as a measurement
somber viper
Go read the articles above @scenic thunder
They list several distinct advantages of the Imperial system when directly compared to the Metric system 🤷♂️
scenic thunder
because people are commonly into sports
yeah I overviwed them and dont think the same tbh
hasty thistle
You know what doesnt make sense to me though? Farenheit. What the hell America
sleek wolf
@somber viper you euroes used it first
@hasty thistle because its easier to tell when its hot or cold
north aspen
32 degrees freezing
sleek wolf
somber viper
@sleek wolf I'm fucking Texan 
north aspen
I think it is
sleek wolf
Its not
hasty thistle
So you're just expected to remember that 32 is freezing point? Why 32?
Celsius is just way easier to visualize internally imo. 0 = Freezing point. You can base all other numbers on this one easy-to-remember number
short berry
I mean, the same goes the other way around. why is 0 the freezing point?
north aspen
32 is freezing in Fahrenheit
hasty thistle
no 32 is the freezing point in farenheit
sleek wolf
That just cold thi
hasty thistle
which is crazy. What is this system even referencing
short berry
because celsius is based on water freezing and fahrenheit on the body temperature.
sleek wolf
I dont freeze
native sable
@hasty thistle I dunno ask the English
hasty thistle
Oh god no thank you!
sleek wolf
We did cool science
native sable
@hasty thistle Farrienhight is based on Sea Water apparently
Which is strange because salinity isn’t uniform
somber viper
wtf 😂
slate barn
Dude just started a 33 hour live stream where he is going to freestyle rap the whole time.
hasty thistle
RIP his vocal chords
slate barn
Right?! Thats what I was thinking. He is starting out pretty slow it sounds.
But still.
light walrus
how old is current war? thinking about reinstalling again
slate barn
@light walrus
markfoot04/24/2020
War 53 Start Time
that was last start time!
or 25th
light walrus
very precise, thank you 🙂
slate barn
Anytime ❤️
sleek wolf
woven scarab
@sleek wolf game?
sleek wolf
daggerfall
willow fjord
I just saw "advantages of imperial over metric" and what
You guys are delusional americans smh
astral moss
The only reason we brought in the lawyers was so we could create a imperial empire of military bases and steal the nazi scientists and doctors. Discuss
scenic thunder
more like every fucking reason
1 you can 2 you look good on the public 3 a hundred other reasons
karmic ether
the playerbase is declining due to corner aiming.
willow fjord
You can tell that about pretty much anything in the game dude
IMO playerbase is declining because clanmen break the game - by metaslaving, burning out and then leaving along with the entire clan
karmic ether
You can't blame clan man for this
rocky edge
Clan man bad
cinder quail
Foxhole civil war wen: Clan men vs randoms
rocky tapir
wonder if there is any Eve Online player
opal dome
quitted from that game a long time ago @rocky tapir
rocky tapir
good choice
opal dome
but still have it installed for some reason
i only log in sometime to visit null sec if there's a large war with my stealth bomber
cerulean creek
@sleek wolf They are complaining about our degrees system calling it dumb, but seem to forget who made it to the moon first
paper timber
We complain about your degree system because we know who made it into space first
willow fjord
You can't blame clan man for this
@karmic ether
Why not when this is what happened? People killing others for trying to use tanks, petrol hoarding, "ALL NON-ESSENTIAL PERSONEL PLEASE LEAVE THE REGION" and many other retarded things that the community came up with
You can blame the devs just to some degree - yes, the game has an evergrowing pile of issues that are poorly addressed so far but the real problem rests in the hands of players. No wonder people are quittin' when all you do is hoarding petrol and then waiting to use tanks with nothing in between when it's not a given you will have them in a war or from the other side of view how can you enjoy somewhat sandbox game when you are forced by others to follow the meta and are excluded from parts of it by a band of randoms with cringe collective name because they think they know better.
paper timber
most of the issues people hold with clans are extensions of issues with the game though
hoarding petrol and waiting for tanks to unlock shows that playing the early parts of the war are relatively pointless and futile, and will just result in you burning out
willow fjord
In a game of community effort it should be based on groups of friends trying to have fun, not groups of petty autists trying to win
It is only pointless and futile because it's shaped this way by community honestly
paper timber
My group of friends is your group of autists
clans are simply groups of friends trying to have fun
willow fjord
Initialy yes, then it gets a little more serious, you start to recruit new people which at some point it leads to a drama or the core quitting and it all falls apart
cerulean creek
They cannot hoard supplies and resources, than blame the devs for their actions
They choose to do that, the devs don't force anyone to.
paper timber
Well, if you want to run a tank without squabbling over supplies you kinda have to hoard
which wasn't always the case
willow fjord
Even in some of the worst wars with no tanks me and my buddy had a fucking blast when clanmen where saying the game is in unplayable state. Point of view changes a lot in a game like this.
The hoarding issue. What do you want - having an abundance of the most powerful active equipment making everything else truly pointless, having everyone hoard making your whole experience revolving about said equipment if you want to even use it and discarding everything else in the game or having what we have now with noone hoarding or at least everyone sharing with everyone if needed to make fun and healthy gameplay?
I do agree some numbers are overkill but it's very much players fault it get to this point
karmic ether
Tell the devs to make it so non bmats are easier to make and quicker and the map smaller so everything besides rifles and shirts arent so damn rare.
Then you won't see clan man getting pissed when some newb rushes in with a tank and gets it blown up in a few minutes when it took ages to make and get there
willow fjord
Listen why they care if the person made the tank and invested his own time to do it all?
karmic ether
The people who rush in and waste things like tanks hardly realize logistics even exists let alone went and made it.
willow fjord
That's a) an opinion and b) hardly answers my question
karmic ether
If you actually take the time to make a tank and drive it to a front start to finish I doubt anyone would care that much knowing that
paper timber
with how scarce rmats are, losing 140 of them without any real gain (not to mention shells and petrol) is going to not be fun for anyone involved
before Update 26 losing a tank was at a cost of your own time, not half a component field that the team could have used
or is it a 6th? I can't remember how much they hold
karmic ether
Like if you want to take the time to make a tank and get everything needed for it and drive it to the front thatd take you over an hour wouldnt it?
willow fjord
Oh so intead of playing the game to play the fcking game, you want to do what's most cost effective and burn out in a matter of days? Because that's what happen to new players guided by clanmen
karmic ether
Things arent rare due to hoarding all the good toys things are rare cause devs made logistics take forever by making it so time consuming to make things beyond the basics. That's why everyone right now is a rifle man.
Clan men just take the time to actually make stuff and work in an organized fashion to preserve it and make better use of it. Most people do 0 logistics work and dont realize what goes into making the big toys.
willow fjord
look you see 140 rmats on wheels and the newb sees an effort and fun of trying the badass content of the game. Why do you care about the "team" having components but don't want others to do what they want? People would get better overtime on their own because it's how any competition works. By building tanks and losing them
karmic ether
It is a shame new players and non clansmen dont get to try this stuff out more I agree
But the problem is that logistics is broken design wise
Not the clans
willow fjord
If you get yelled at for doing so you will quit the game and play alternatives. And you wonder why the game is dying when you cannot even understand that. As I said you can blame the game only to some extent, after that it's just denial of your own faults.
karmic ether
Ultimately people will always be toxic and competitive in anything competitive and that's a sad truth
And you're not going to be able to fix that so you need to tackle problems from a design perspective
paper timber
this toxicity is not exclusive to clans
willow fjord
This is the ultimate fail of metagaming and taking worthless win too fcking seriously that rots even the best of games. And I do agree RobotSpark, I am simply just biased against clanmen in gaming in general.
karmic ether
Clans and guilds are what make mmos fun for alot of people though by making it social
And being able to make a bigger impact
Through organization
willow fjord
And ruining the game completely for others that play in smaller groups or solo on top of the game's own problems
karmic ether
Foxhole if you play by yourself feels like you accomplished nothing after 3 hrs of play
north aspen
If you are on your own, you will not accomplish much in Foxhole
And scarcity makes sure of that
karmic ether
And I wouldnt say it completely ruins the game you just need tough skin and to ignore others
north aspen
Clans so far get things done, and then cause dumb drama as a side job. Meanwhile the devs do whatever is possibly the worst thing to do in said situation.
Thus, clan man bad
willow fjord
I played with some clan squads randomly and assembling randoms and doing ops with them was almost always more fun and accomplish the same.
karmic ether
Clans get a bad rap cause they attract competitive people and competitive people tend to be the toxic types
Or not all competitive people are toxic
But most toxic people are competitive
north aspen
So far, I have come across some annoying clan people, and not annoying clan people.
willow fjord
And it's not only foxhole, in fact having clans kinda makes sense unless you start to think being in a big clan somehow makes you relevant in a game where devs intentionally make everyone as irrelevant as possible.
karmic ether
You feel much more relevance working in union during a clan operation during a big saturday push
Than 5 hours playing rifle man in deadlands
willow fjord
Games like Rust or other survival sandboxes are downright unplayable for new solo players because of clans shaking it all up
north aspen
Foxhole is playable. It's not noob and random friendly, but it's playable.
karmic ether
That's not quite true for Rust you just have to live on the fringes
willow fjord
You have the same union having a random assembly operation and it's way more satisfying
karmic ether
Not quite as a clan due to huge logistics operations can bring the big guns you just can't now randomly
willow fjord
yeah you just have to experience the game in inferior way to enjoy it in Rust 
karmic ether
And that's devs fault for making everything scarce
willow fjord
That's players fault for making it even more scarce for the sake of a clan
karmic ether
I disagree, if you want a tank go spend the hr+ to make it and bring it to the front
Dont get mad that people spend hours making stuff to not just give pearls to swine.
willow fjord
It wouldn't be a problem if it was more fluid and clans cooperated with other clans and randoms on equal ground, like you know - adult people. This game though is populated with manchildren, borderline pd and antisocial pd people so it's not gonna happen.
karmic ether
Well maybe clans should do more outreach and try to recruit and teach newbs better but it's hard to culturally change things. That's why it's better to focus on policy thatll engineer things towards a certain desired direction
willow fjord
Dude I made or stole all the tanks I ever used solo and I was team killed so many times for being low rank it's ridiculous.
willow fjord
Yeah sure, it ends in "guys mass report that random" People that think they are better than others because of how long they play or because of clan are repelling new players faster than old players are leaving because of overkill numbers on resources
That's not even my opinion, that's what happening as we speak
Like, how are you going to enjoy the game when you are bullied out of a region by a bunch of nobodies because they want to meta slave in it and it's full?
You know we have very little influence on the devs no matter how much we complain but we literally shape how the game plays on our end?
karmic ether
right but it is hundreds of young nerdy guys you're talking about who have boosted confidence online
willow fjord
I strongly believe the community is rotten to the point where even if the devs deliver the most perfect iteration of the game it will still not attract new players and be frowned upon by old ones
karmic ether
this is a similar reason why even though I like say magic the gathering or warhammer 40k you wont catch me dead in a game store anymore playing it on friday nights
and idk about that, some newbs will get passed the learning curve and figure things out if they're really interested
and handle online toxic bs
willow fjord
It happens to everything - look at WoW, 40k, open world survival mmos, any competetive multiplayer game and the list goes on
I dunno man I want to be able to make a random assembly to do a high scale operation with all pros and cons of working with literally random people without being laughed at and having everyone know their place without any metagame
north aspen
The problem with that is, that requires planning.
Which is why clans exist
Getting supplies, enough manpower, knowing when you'll be striking.
willow fjord
No it does not require planning this is people playing a game not a fucking government ruling a country
You just call out for every lone soul wanting to have fun and assign roles for the operation, plan the course of action with people, divide them into squads and just go to see what happens
north aspen
What you described is an op. Getting people to know there place requires planning.
willow fjord
you can plan the course of action as you go
and do the same with completely different people every night what's the issue - where do you need a clan exclusivity in this?
north aspen
I guess if you can get people to, you know, listen
willow fjord
Good example of this is how squads work in Post Scriptum or how the abstract fever dream unfolds in Sub Rosa
People not listening is acceptable to some degree. IMO adds unpredictability spice to the whole thing. Reducing it to a chore because it's most effective is just meh and kills the fun
north aspen
Well, which is easier, being with a group of people that you know and trust can do the thing that you want correctly, or getting some random person who could have no clue what the game is about and telling them to do a thing, and just cross your fingers and hope it works. Much more fun to see a plan work out correctly, as intended than to see everything crash and burn because that one person had no clue what they were doing at all.
willow fjord
This is my point: taking it seriously to the point where you work in a game is just not what's gaming all about - I prefer to laugh my ass off at the struggle of people having fun trying to cooperate as best as they can with memes happening left and right than tryharding with the best clan out there getting mad at people making mistakes
north aspen
I like the idea of organization and having a plan. Yelling at others and whatnot isnt good, but getting materials together for a plan, and then watching the plan unfold sounds great to me.
willow fjord
Yeah but you can have that or hilarious chain of events that leads to either win or failure without butthurt or pettines is much better.
Because at the end you will figure out the best plan and do the same shit over and over, and over again with the same frustrated group of people every time only to have to invest more and more time to this to make it relevant
In a game that lasts more than you can put into it winning is always a secondary objective. You should focus on having a great time trying
north aspen
The best plan for every single stage of the game for every single place on the map.
willow fjord
I'll give you an example: few wars ago we had this behind enemy lines operation in I think stonecradle - started by a clan but many more randoms joined and contributed so unexpectedly a random distraction turned into 25 hours of pure fun. Leaders were changing from time to time, people were ignoring or failing orders sometimes but overall even though we lost the point it was a success and I had the best of times
While one clan was doing back and forth in deadlands getting more and more mad over time to the point where it was miserable
potent ginkgo
@simple plover
charred vigil
I still remember the time where alderul planned a deadlands push op
with 50+ vet wardens
with enormous supplies prepped
guess what, randoms smelled an op
and promptly fucked it up
by clogging up the server slots, the guys capable of using the tools were stuck in marban
logi couldn't go in
karmic ether
sadly people are attracted to people and don't understand what is going on
charred vigil
- No one capable was able to enter deadlands anymore since we used a Marban FOB as main spawn, resulting in most of the guys fighting Colonials clan being fucking no ranks
- The FA got blown up cause dumbasses straight up led the enemy towards it by running towards it
- Shirts went to 0 real fucking fast
- I would say trenches, but we didn't have shovels back then
astral bane
Wow, never have I thought randoms could fuck something up so badly
charred vigil
There's nothing more dangerous than a guy wanting to help
Because if he knows how to help, he's already probably helping you instead of asking
willow fjord
I can imagine you guys never explained anything to anyone treating low ranks with disdain, then after it was ruined sperged out on the voice and in chat resulting in these no ranks leaving the game forever only to complain about low pop few months later?
karmic ether
Now you got it
Although some clans actually do make an effort, especially during a sale, to try to train and educate new players
And incorporate them if they want to be
scenic thunder
tbh I dont undestand
the most fun i have is when there are day 1 noobs around
90% of the time they follow you around and ask you stuff
its like having to babysit a bit yeah but its free manpower
whenever they git a bit of experience they get more cocky and start triying to attack stuff on their own or build whatever without coordination and waste resources
willow fjord
My top 2 behaviours in foxhole community are: refusing to play solo or as a clan because it's low pop and sperging out on newbies after hours of not communicating with them
karmic ether
Just be christlike in your dealings in life and you'll make the world a better place around you.
What would Jesus do
willow fjord
Oh and 3rd one: abandoning the game literally seconds after the enemy gets the upper hand
It's sprinkling salt on a wound and complaining that it hurts more lmao
karmic ether
Wasting resources is half the fun
charred vigil
with all due respect
good riddance to them
if people want to learn, they will
if people want to be taught, they might be, but will they learn ?
jaunty lance
aren't wardens known for not being nice to low levels?
charred vigil
funny enough, lately it goes both ways
jaunty lance
uh
to be perfectly honest, I'd say the clans and irregulars on our side are being far nicer to new people than wardens
scenic thunder
in my experience collies tend to use newbies as bullet meat
scenic thunder
tell them to charge ahead so they can rgrenade a position or something
charred vigil
plz don't do that, I can only bring so much ammo
jaunty lance
maybe thats why collie logistics is so much worse than the wardens
we waste it away on human wave attacks
but it doesn't matter that much, seeing how we are winning the war right now
once we take callahans the war is pretty much over for the wardens
problem is getting callahans in the first place
willow fjord
I wish for some huge content creator to discover foxhole and get some good clips so the population goes through the roof and clanmen sanity drops through the floor
jaunty lance
I wish not for that to happen
actually, maybe it could be useful to the foxhole community
it'd put a further strain on resources for both sides, but atleast its more manpower
willow fjord
It would force the devs to go back a little on that scarcity thing
willow fjord
Well as it is now with filled up servers with new people just wasting shit would cause both sides to run out of everything pretty quickly
And they would have to fine tune that or the game just breaks
jaunty lance
in my experience the only times attrition is present, is during a siege, and especially when you have been encircled and cut off from logi routes
willow fjord
This game would benefit from having new players outside of the usual demographic or new players in general
jaunty lance
during those times is when you have next to nothing, and all you can do to prevent the enemy from capturing your area is to viciously defend every inch of land with nothing but pistols and perhaps some grenades
This game would benefit from having new players outside of the usual demographic or new players in general
maybe
more manpower atleast
winged tundra
Oh hey Arky.
paper bloom
Who do i need to kill to get transfer to other side of war?
jaunty lance
Oh hey Arky.
ayyyy berkley
winged tundra
Just kill the CEO of the faction you currently reside in.
willow fjord
Maybe I am wrong but isn't the resource pool static regardless of the player count - with enough players and wasting it would turn into a cycle of running out of shirts waiting for refill of nodes only to allow people to respawn only to run out of resources by doing that and so on
jaunty lance
I believe it is
willow fjord
Oh did they release the controversial information about it? I need to be careful what I say because I know some spicy details I shouldn't share
scenic thunder
controversial as in politics/gender stuff?
willow fjord
Well kind of
charred vigil
I mean, you do know the saltingrad war
willow fjord
There are some really messed up parts to show that cyberpunk is in fact a dystopian future
charred vigil
where we barely kept up the shirts on both sides
entire maps were empty of resources
woven scarab
@willow fjord IGN's recent video on it has 10/10 text placement for the thumbnail
robust ibex
how about balance .. tanks, there is nothing about them thants say expensive , except getting to research them and how the .. are they able to shoot at things that are way above their height without any problems
it is like fighting terminator, inf is so poor at this point that besides rpgs nothing works