Damage Functions

[atomic fiber]

so next hypothesis is
perhaps its functions that use the ap2/sp2/apsp2 funcs but aren't those 3 themselves

[ancient marten]

n

n

n

this is internal and the nerd group stopped using this

because it was confusing

[atomic fiber]

exactly

[ancient marten]

aa - 1
a1 - 2
a2 - 3 and so on

[atomic fiber]

no

[ancient marten]

so just use 1 2 3 4 5

🙂

[atomic fiber]

u try using it in a guide and let me know how it goes

[ancient marten]

2nd skill

aka 2

done

aqw lorepedia guide on forges already did this

its also not like theres an entire immortal joe yt account teaching people rotations using shit like 24152534252

[atomic fiber]

2nd skill and skill 2's logical abbreviation is straight up s2 tho

[atomic fiber]

ok ill give ya that

and honestly i do that too when strictly listing down rotations

[shadow sorrel]

i will do what i must

i use rocky club 😔

[shadow sorrel]

is there a reason freezing flame synergizes with evolved shaman

[plain pond]

probably uses the same damage function as the evolved shaman scaling abilities

[shadow sorrel]

ill take a look

unbanking evolved shaman

Evolved Shaman and Freezing Flame

[dreamy fog]

Uh mb I didn't put everything in the old version

[plain pond]

so does it actually do more damage with grasp active

[shadow sorrel]

im gonna give it a try

[dreamy fog]

I'll check later on

[shadow sorrel]

is there a new version i can install

[dreamy fog]

It's on github !

Uh

[shadow sorrel]

omg yay

[dreamy fog]

I forgot where I sent the link

[shadow sorrel]

fug

[severe blade]

amberahhh

[Reply to:](#1318224937558736958 message) fug

shell

cryo you can delete if you think tis bad to post here

somewhat buggy but stable

https://github.com/Shell1010/aqw-utils

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[shadow sorrel]

do i delete the main.py

you sent me

[dreamy fog]

This inhabits multiple files

Uh

If you download as zip it'll give you a folder

Didn't put it all in 1 file because wanted to do it nicely

[shadow sorrel]

im cooked i dont even know how to use github

[dreamy fog]

Pro

[shadow sorrel]

i finally figured out how to donwload as a zip

[dreamy fog]

Click green

Yr

E

[shadow sorrel]

thank you

[dreamy fog]

OK after you just go to the folder in cmd

Then python main.py

[shadow sorrel]

i still havve this main.py from the original should i delete it so it doesnt run this one and runs the new one

[dreamy fog]

Uh sure

I just realised your windows there's no color handling

Society

[shadow sorrel]

what does that mean

[dreamy fog]

It will look very weird on your screen

I will fix it like

Idk

[shadow sorrel]

hell yeah

[dreamy fog]

Tell me how it looks

Or send ss after it's up

[atomic fiber]

real dev notes 🔥

(i haven't tried your fancy tool yet)

[dreamy fog]

Fair, I have a bajillion ideas with smol time

After 14th I will try

[shadow sorrel]

i think i might still be running the old one somehow

[dreamy fog]

Real

Are you sure you're in the same folder as the extracted zip

[shadow sorrel]

how do i go to the folder in cmd

it says its looking for it in my USERS area

[dreamy fog]

Uh

OK so file explorer

[shadow sorrel]

i have all this stuff extracted

[dreamy fog]

OK so yk the top bar with the path

[shadow sorrel]

mhm

[dreamy fog]

Desktop packet aqw utils master

Ye double click then type cmd

Like empty space

It should open

[shadow sorrel]

what am i double clicking

[dreamy fog]

The address bar

Bar with aqw utils master

[shadow sorrel]

double clicking doesnt open anything to type

[dreamy fog]

It should let you put text

[shadow sorrel]

like rename it?

[dreamy fog]

OK uh

Did they change windows

Yes rename to cmd

[shadow sorrel]

so it should be desktop > packet > cmd

?

[dreamy fog]

No

Just cmd

[dreamy fog]

Like this

[shadow sorrel]

oh

it opened python

[dreamy fog]

It should open in the directory

[shadow sorrel]

well cmd

[dusky pollen]

command prompt

[dreamy fog]

OK now type

python main.py

Ggs

[shadow sorrel]

i just had to type here cmd i was so confused i thought that just renamed the folder

[dreamy fog]

Stuff should be preinstalled from your previous one

[shadow sorrel]

i dont have a module called _curses

apparently

[dreamy fog]

Curses

[dusky pollen]

cursed

[shadow sorrel]

curses

[dreamy fog]

Uh pip install windows-curses

Windows strikes again

[shadow sorrel]

okay installed curses

[dreamy fog]

Try again

[shadow sorrel]

i need to dm you a screenshot

[shadow sorrel]

alright its working

this is evolved shaman and freezing flame

wait nvm i just learned how to use it lemme highlight freezing flame

[dreamy fog]

check if ids match

529 for freezing flame

i just realised i dont even have evolved shaman banked

wait they're literally samelol

they apply same effect so ig thats why it works?

well its got the same name

[shadow sorrel]

raw freeze flame vs freeze flame with grasp and some spells elapsed

im not sure it even increases in damage?

[dreamy fog]

huh

[shadow sorrel]

finally got a higher number

my damage is not rising

im just getting 908s now

[plain pond]

glorp

[shadow sorrel]

glorp life

[dreamy fog]

scam

tis legend only

[dreamy fog]

when skill 2 is applied, does the scroll stack or create a new aura.

[shadow sorrel]

neither?

[dreamy fog]

Number didn't go up?

Stayed at 1?

[shadow sorrel]

yeah with my stats my crits are running at 2003

[dreamy fog]

I think this is a DSG Execute/Ravenous Execute scenario

[shadow sorrel]

im confused what youre asking i think

[severe blade]

shell

So DSG's Execute Aura Handling is unlike Ravenous' Execute Aura. It has "correct" aura handling, what majority of classes use.

Basically DSG's Execute handling makes it so it doesn't create a new instance and only updates the pre-existing instance's timer. This doesn't effect any function, so it uses logic of whatever applied first but only updates the timer.

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[dreamy fog]

okay apply skill 2, then 6

not asking about damage just the aura itself

[shadow sorrel]

which aura am i keeping an eye out for

what is it called

2 applies Headwind

the scroll also only has 2 auras it applies, frozen and cold burn

[dreamy fog]

it's frozen or cold burn

[shadow sorrel]

a 4 second stun and DoT respectively

[dreamy fog]

right

actually uh

[shadow sorrel]

yes

[dreamy fog]

Evo shaman doesn't stack like that does it

It doesn't require aura stacks it just does it

[shadow sorrel]

it presses 5 then uses its skills doesnt it?

i dont see stacks actually rising when i strike

[shadow sorrel]

i believe so

[dreamy fog]

Other stuff like SoS requires you to keep the aura stacked a certain amount, and if it expires it means you have to stack again.

But Shaman/Evo Shaman just work even if their effects expire (as long as 5 active)

Ye

Then idk

[shadow sorrel]

im asking primal

[dreamy fog]

No idea how you test this

maybe 6 and 2 are just respectively their own things

does multiple 6's increase the damage it does?

[shadow sorrel]

i tried that earlier

like instead of stacking evo shaman skills just stacking freeze flame on grasp

no rise

[dreamy fog]

mm

Unrelated Note but Evo Shaman has aura handling as Necromancer Weaken (independent instance)

oh amber there's config.toml file in the folder you can play around with if you want

[shadow sorrel]

oh cool thank you

[fluid pond]

[shadow sorrel]

whatcha thinking?

did the wiki writer lie sending us on a goose chase?

[fluid pond]

i mean it might be a bug

its intended purpose might not be working out

[shadow sorrel]

im just weirded out the wiki and in game say two different things

with the wiki adding an effect

[shadow sorrel]

im not good with numbers but i have a question

hit me if this is stupid

guardian blast

its aoe1

AoE1 SP1 to the main target, halved damage to all secondary targets

i did find this to be the case

but when i put it in a calculator it tells me that its a 66% difference

i only currently have a 5% elemental damage boost from my Rocky Club

so they shouldnt be bothered as they arent elemental

[shadow sorrel]

so where do they get the 10% of current HP from?

[dreamy fog]

It's literally 1132/2

[shadow sorrel]

i know

but im confused why that thing says 66%

i thought half was like 50%

[dreamy fog]

Percentage difference calculates as a fraction of averages

It's
(Value1 - Value2)/average of values

[shadow sorrel]

oh okay

[dreamy fog]

Then x100

[shadow sorrel]

so on scroll of heartbeat, is that 10% of current hp legit?

and its based on having more HP/ and your HP being full right?

[dreamy fog]

Ye

It's like scroll of voidstrike

Same function actually

I don't think it's actually 10% tho

[shadow sorrel]

yeah i noticed that void strike was just this on steroids

[dreamy fog]

It's 0.2intHPSP so more like 20% of current hp

[shadow sorrel]

gotcha

Deals 20% Magical Damage based on your HP.

is this correct in stating?

[dreamy fog]

Ig

[shadow sorrel]

cool coo

[dreamy fog]

It's just average percentage calculation.

SP1 to main target = 100%
Halved to other targets = 50%

( 566/1132 ) *100
Idk what this is called, it's just simple enough I don't think it even has a name

It's just division ig

[shadow sorrel]

so i can say it does 250% more damage?

im looking at Holy Bolt right now

can i say it does 400% damage to undead, since 1.5 = 150% and 2.5 = 250%
?

[dreamy fog]

Multiplier not additive there

I'm pretty sure

[dusky pollen]

just test it on an undead and a non undead

[shadow sorrel]

i'm worried they will have different defense

like i'll naturally be hitting one for more anyways

[dusky pollen]

that's when you do many trials against many different enemies, I suppose.

[ancient marten]

why

ur overestimating the amount of monsters with added stats

1.5 on base 2.5x on targeted race

not additive

[shadow sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-love-gif-26629503

[atomic fiber]

u can get to command prompt / cmd thru the search bar in start menu too fyi

[atomic fiber]

the actual formula is intHPSP like fish mentioned
intHPSP = current hp + 0.1 * spell power
i'd add "current" for
"Deals 20% Magical Damage based on your current HP. "
if i wanna be extra pedantic i'd go
"Deals 20% of current HP plus 2% of Spell Power as Magical Damage"
depends on how much detail you wanna drill down to

[atomic fiber]

excuse my pedantic ass again
but if u wanna use "more" then i'd be 150% more damage
otherwise i'd say deals 250% as much damage or 2.5x as much damage or 2.5x the damage

and yes it's multiplicative

[atomic fiber]

chu already mentioned most mobs not having any extra defense
but you could always test if they do by using a random magical skill and see if it does the same dmg

i'll take a look at evo shaman later too, looks interesting

[shadow sorrel]

thank you for the backread, i'm about to climb into bed so i will properly digest this stuff tmr

[brittle ravine]

great stuff

[shadow sorrel]

do we know what scroll of pangs DoT is based on?

also, does it still rise in damage per tick?

i keep getting the same number the whole duration, both when i let the scroll run uninhibited, and when i attack alongide the effect.

[shadow sorrel]

update, i think its Attack Power?

this is based on using it raw and then with might vs sage, might caused it to increase

[shadow sorrel]

i need 2 open from folder otherwise it cant see the main.py stuff idk

[shadow sorrel]

yeah and i have a section for usage tips n shit so i can specify whether it benefits from having a fuller or empty HP bar i guess to be extra clear

ill just run with

Scroll of Heartbeat Deals 20% Magical Damage based on your current HP. 20 second cooldown. Benefits from a fuller HP bar.

[shadow sorrel]

dont worry about pedantics i need shit to be clear, i often tell fish explain like im 5 or some shit like that. i did (i think) figure out the numbers on this thanks to it being multiplicative. since 200% x 2.5 is 5 which = 500% and then

that should mean saying 150% x 2.5 = 3.75 = 375%

and 140% x 2.5 = 3.5 = 350%

is correct?

ill be so fucking brutally dead honest with you im embarassingly bad with numbers i have like zero confidence in deducing what something is myself

when it comes to numbers at least

i much prefer words and letters

on another note (since this channel is quiet ill leave some stuff for people to read) the doc only has this many scrolls left. after that i just need to shine up the chrono consumable section

[ancient marten]

yh

but deals X damage, deals Y to undead feels a bit off when writing that

probably deals X damage. if target(s) is undead, deal 2.5x more damage

also pedantic shit from me, apply implies it automatically places the aura on the target, inflicts implies it needs to land the hit to place it

[shadow sorrel]

ooh okay thank you

[atomic fiber]

it's a riftburn dot, doubles with each tick
similar to chronomancer s5 or ynr s3

as for the base formula i forgor
needa check later
cant go ingame atm

had a pretty broken period back when room glitching was a thing

[shadow sorrel]

so apply for things like mystify that do zero damage and just apply auras, and scrolls that damage and apply auras are inflict?

[shadow sorrel]

is there something i did wrong to make it not go up

[atomic fiber]

uhh
i'll have to check later in game
but i think it might've just gotten patched at some point

[atomic fiber]

does fish's tool show anything out of the ordinary?

[shadow sorrel]

id have to open it up again to check

[shadow sorrel]

i know they tweaked it but i didnt think theyd neuter its use effect

[clever hare]

that feels like it has been nerfed since forever ago

I have never used it when it wasn't feeling gutted

maybe I am using it wrong or maybe it doesn't work right for me?

[shadow sorrel]

@ionic rose

[shadow sorrel]

are you not getting rising DoT from pangs either?

[shadow sorrel]

welcome keith

[dreamy fog]

nerd

[shadow sorrel]

the scary part of the srever

🥶

[plain pond]

https://www.aq.com/gamedesignnotes/aqw-patch-notes-6730 it was changed almost 7 years ago

[dusky pollen]

lul was the description not updated

[plain pond]

the wiki still has the old one

[dusky pollen]

I remember using this and glitched rooms to obliterate everybody

it was funny

[plain pond]

so either game desc is still old or someone forgor to update wiki

both are equally likely imo

[dusky pollen]

@shadow sorrel what's the desc on it?

[plain pond]

that's exactly why they changed it

u could cheese any boss with it lol

[shadow sorrel]

oh thank you

[shadow sorrel]

at least theyre consistent about not updating shit i guess

[shadow sorrel]

both are true

with fish's aqw utils i gotta check every scrolls numbers on wiki

theyre 98% wrong

[plain pond]

I did some of them back then

the aura values mostly

I think

[shadow sorrel]

its just like rlly minor things

like one scroll said it did 25% andn 15% to a stat or smth and they both were just 20%

like goin thru hitting myself with the scrolls to verify durations and percents n shiz

shuga asked why i dont just edit the wiki which is a really good question

i dont have a valid rebuttal to that still im just lazy and one track minded in cataloguing in the spot im cataloguing

[plain pond]

that sounds like something I wouldn't normally miss, I either didn't do it or they changed it afterwards

it has been a long time since I did wiki stuff or anything aqw related

[shadow sorrel]

fair enough

im kind of reaching my backseat stage where i talk about it more than i play

but im still tuned in

[shadow sorrel]

yeah and it doesnt help when they change shit they dont update it in game consistently so if a wiki user doesnt directly see the change or in design notes it can go under the rug

and a lot of people use the wiki

thankfully the errors are in a really niche part

[plain pond]

I always hated the amount of shadow changes aqw received

it's so much stuff

[shadow sorrel]

i dont think people are scrutinizing scroll of ice shard like i am

[plain pond]

sometimes they'd update map artwork and not say it anywhere (like manor)

[shadow sorrel]

shadow drops too like you gotta be in 5 different circles to not miss new releases or limited shit

[plain pond]

I only figured out manor got changed cuz the map file date was updated

[shadow sorrel]

i joined a server at one point for their daily drops channel

[plain pond]

the real endgame

[shadow sorrel]

ong

[plain pond]

it happened to me on aqw until I quit, and now with warframe

[shadow sorrel]

my fingers are poked into a few other games

im still huge into terraria and im a 3ds geek so ive got an endless library there

aqw is rlly my only multiplayer game i consistently play 💀

[plain pond]

if you have fun that's all that matters really

[shadow sorrel]

im also at the point in terraria where im using weird mechanics and wiring and stuff to usurp bosses instead of my raw battle input

dimmys been trying to get me into warframe

i borrowed my little brothers xbox one to download it but i never hooked it up to my monitor yet its just sitting in my sock drawer

[plain pond]

I wish I had the will to play terraria more

it's a great game but it was a one and done for me (technically 2, one vanilla and one calamity)

[shadow sorrel]

i got it for free on the 360 in like 2015

im over 2k hours on every platform combined atp

i really liked it on the 3ds weirdly enough

it was ported really nicely i cant lie

but yeah it can be boring

i do find myself progression skipping to keep it fresh and fun

its also kind of info heavy and being engorged in it so long i have like a homely, familiarity

kind of like how in minecraft you know you gotta make a stone pick for iron

but way more info

[plain pond]

mhm

[shadow sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-fish-meme-funny-meme-funny-fish-gif-13169197181335403544

my favorite boss in the game

[dreamy fog]

me with barely 2 hrs in it

got it on steam but didn play much lol

[shadow sorrel]

i play it inebriated sometimes

[dreamy fog]

Fair

What would happen if I ping Joe with the forbidden sheet

And ask why he doesn't publicise these aspects

Considering Joe is shinmuki

[dusky pollen]

you’d definitely get banned lmfao

[dreamy fog]

Don't really talk there tbf

I'll risk it all when I see him online

[atomic fiber]

WOW
thats hella long ago

[ancient marten]

thats not his call

this is all internal shit theyre not going to air that out

[dusky pollen]

you're purple now lul

[dreamy fog]

i dont notice their colours because cloud

[dusky pollen]

noticed cuz the color of the dragon rondel next to the name turned darker

[atomic fiber]

poople qloud

[clever hare]

back when I used it, I never got even a DoT IIRC

then again, I could have been using it wrong

or the boss I was fighting didn't let it get applied?

I just remember the scroll felt weird to me

[ancient marten]

good job

[plain pond]

why he ourple

[shadow sorrel]

the wiki says acid rain does hybrid damage, which to an extent is true, its damage source is APSP2 but its type is M, would it be more beneficial for the player to write this as Magic so it knows it targets the enemies Mag In and All In or Hybrid so they know it scales from AP and SP?

[dusky pollen]

have you had a precedent for this thing? where it scales from one and outputs another?

like for Scroll of Heartbeat, how'd you do that one?

[plain pond]

that honestly feels like a question you should ask on the wiki server

I know they have some dogshit rules for not including that kind of stuff

[dusky pollen]

yea, but amber's doc is standalone ain't it

[plain pond]

if it's the personal stuff then sure

I don't get the point of posting the wiki version if that's true but it is what it is

[dusky pollen]

to see if the wiki version is lies

[shadow sorrel]

yes

[shadow sorrel]

the wiki also doesnt mention explicitly whether its targeting physical, magical, or both of the monsters defenses

[dreamy fog]

uses both AP and SP in calc but only uses Mag out and All out in modifiers

geges

[shadow sorrel]

(it sometimes is)

[shadow sorrel]

a lot of scrolls are like this

which is why im asking

[shadow sorrel]

i previously went off the damage source but i dont know if thats the best case of action

[dreamy fog]

If you want you can just be verbose about it

[shadow sorrel]

i wanted to know if other people had thoughts. i am going to ping shuga and primal

@brittle ravine @fluid pond

[shadow sorrel]

.

plz read and share your opinion

i wanna develop a precedent for other scrolls since a lot of them follow this format

[shadow sorrel]

how would you put it. the doc is already really fucking wordy

i dont wanna make a manifesto for each scroll

[dreamy fog]

words go hard

[dreamy fog]

is this too wordy

[shadow sorrel]

not really

i wanna be transparent but i dont wanna be too technical that the average player needs an explanation to understand

i also dont think the average player really cares about scrolls considering most only use like enrage and lifesteal

[dusky pollen]

Just say 'uses <stat> to do <damage type>'?

[shadow sorrel]

hm thats nice

ill wordsmith a bit

[dreamy fog]

Yeah that works

"Uses Attack power and Spell power to deal Magical Damage"

[atomic fiber]

does magical hybrid dmg not work? similar to magical attack/spell dmg
alternatively i would just stick to hybrid dmg
since people into mechanics should find out that dots are pseudomagical at some point anyways

[dreamy fog]

magical hybrid sounds contradictory to average player

[atomic fiber]

yea it does
but at least its accurate
i would then hope for the player to dig and find out its true
-# but that's probably wishful thinking

actually on second thought idk if i would describe dots as magical hmm

[dreamy fog]

pseudo magical

as mole describes

[atomic fiber]

not a very wieldy term

since amber did specify she wants to avoid overly verbose explanations

[dreamy fog]

you mean a way average person would understand?

[atomic fiber]

and it does push it further from the casuals

[atomic fiber]

ye

im assuming amber is aiming for her guide to be usable for the average greenie(?)

and in the end if u wanna cater to those you'll have to make compromises to accuracy i suppose

[dreamy fog]

You can't go any simpler than pseudo-magical

[ancient marten]

i did magical/physical ___ damage back when i made a doc that i scrapped like 1 day in

and ye pseudomagical is as simple as it gets

[atomic fiber]

u will need to explain what pseudomagical is then

glossary would help
but idt greenies read those

[ancient marten]

yea thats fine

u have to anyway if u dont want to explain what stats dot scales from every time

[atomic fiber]

i always hated the term weapon dmg ngl

used to make 0 sense to me

since even sp skills were described as weapon dmg

you'd compare it with the auto and get nonsensical values

[dusky pollen]

so what does it mean anyway?

[dreamy fog]

Magical Damage is influenced by Mag Out All Out on player side and Mag in and All in on enemy side

DoTs are not influenced by Mag in on enemy side

Like uh when VDK procs its debuffs it's basically useless for DoT based DPS classes because they aren't using the debuffed modifiers on enemy

Ssot azalith comp doesn't use VDK for this reason

[shadow sorrel]

yes

[shadow sorrel]

i like this

[shadow sorrel]

its not exactly consumables for dummies but its like just above that

[atomic fiber]

tbh practically speaking u don't really need to know about the term pseudomagical

since the main difference is just that dots aren't affected by mag in

(outside of dynamic/static stat shenanigans)

[brittle ravine]

shortcut

[dreamy fog]

shuga backread begins

[brittle ravine]

I haven't caught up with the channel lmao

I'm checking because I got pinged

[brittle ravine]

idk if this was replied to yet, but I think he meant:
apply = guaranteed aura
inflict = aura applies IF hit lands

not exactly directly related to damage dealt

[brittle ravine]

we could always just save it for AFTER everything's been documented

[brittle ravine]

oaky it seems this has been resolved already

[dusky pollen]

lul

[brittle ravine]

if you want to add a section like a LEGEND on a map that describes what certain terms mean, you can...
Pros:

• shorter overall text in sections
• potentially "easier" to read
  Cons:
• people unfamiliar with terms will have to scroll up and down over and over again to remember what a term refers to, leading to an awkward experience when reading

you could also use the "uses sp & ap to deal magical damage" bit to not need the section overall
Pros:

• no legend needed
• people don't need to be familiar with unique terms
  Cons:
• text will be a bit heftier
• aqw players are scared of reading text

[dusky pollen]

the thing with the multiple stats into one.

[shadow sorrel]

gotcha gotcha

[shadow sorrel]

pretty much, if youve got a thought though i dont mind hearing

[brittle ravine]

nah this is all I got lmao

lemme edit the message a bit more

[shadow sorrel]

yeah i went wthe the uses ap and sp to deal x damage

so like this is the updated description

i dont know how/if i can verify scroll of acid rains 250% hybrid damage DoT 67% per tick, thats really arbitrary info that isnt included for other DoT inducing scrolls so i omitted it

[shadow sorrel]

wiki says this for reference

[brittle ravine]

message edited for my thoughts

[shadow sorrel]

yeah i already have like a mini legend on the info page, basically just explaining what HoT and DoT mean. i could add AP and SP to make descriptions shorter.

[brittle ravine]

yeah that could work

[brittle ravine]

yeah you either have to completely omit it, or else you'd have to reverse engineer it and do the same for all the other scrolls

[shadow sorrel]

yep

and fuck that

[dusky pollen]

coloring each of the damage types might help, but... it would also be a pain in the ass to keep up for each lul

[shadow sorrel]

eh, i could probably just ctrl f and highlight each instance?

[brittle ravine]

alright, I'm going to backread in #🗡aqw_talk now, I see greenies

[dusky pollen]

right, Find and Replace.

[brittle ravine]

👻

[shadow sorrel]

have fun

[shadow sorrel]

physical red, magical blue?

the only issue is i have legend is purple

so i cant make hybrid purple unless i change its tone ?

[dusky pollen]

you could make hybrid brown, like they used to have it

[clever hare]

abandon the greens for the ultimate praise of being well versed in AQW math that you can explain it very well

[severe blade]

[dusky pollen]

it's certainly interesting that we haven't gotten a proper all-consumables guide lul

[brittle ravine]

nah, a lot of people already have that mantle

I'm fine with this little slice of aqw involvment I got related to "practical" gameplay

I am interested in amber's development however, since I'm sure vro got a ton more potential than I do

I'm already past my prime

[clever hare]

bruh, you can't be past your prime if someone like Mike Tyson took til 40 to be past his prime

[clever hare]

If anything, Amber shall become what I would if I cared enough about AQW

but alas I don't so I contribute whenever I can but not enough

[shadow sorrel]

thats a good idea

[shadow sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-cat-cute-cute-smile-cat-smile-gif-3506344065033604903

[dreamy fog]

Realest

[shadow sorrel]

i try mah best

[clever hare]

you are smart but you don't show it often which is nice

don't push yourself to show it when you don't need to or it will burn you

I know from trying in the past

got too in my own head doing so

and realized I was less smart by that route

but otherwise you do show you are smarter than you give credit to yourself

[clever hare]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-cat-cute-cute-smile-cat-smile-gif-3506344065033604903

[shadow sorrel]

aww thank you dimmy

https://tenor.com/view/big-hug-gif-26546176639434304

[clever hare]

no problem since it is true

[atomic fiber]

that's not even correct 😭

[atomic fiber]

another item into the backlog

[shadow sorrel]

yeah i dont fuck with it

[atomic fiber]

i mean like 250 / 4 = 62.5
not 67

havent tested so idk which value is wrong

[shadow sorrel]

fair

[brittle ravine]

probable answer: all of them are wrong

[dreamy fog]

imagine if its not even 250%

[dreamy fog]

Thought SOS 3 heal, would be effected by damage reduction

But it's not

Seems to be effected by Heal Out

Absolution increases amount healed

That shi is weird

[brittle ravine]

[shadow sorrel]

wtf is vamp1 dsrc

[dreamy fog]

Yeah some scrolls just have different functions all together

Gotta do your own tests ig

[dreamy fog]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/6zi05ld9ml

Plug in numbers from stat page

Use a class with minimal modifiers, arachnomancer probably best for scroll testing

find out what scroll does

base damage of most funcs is usually any of the core functions

[shadow sorrel]

not a scroll, just one of vampire lord's abilities

[dreamy fog]

same thing with desmos then if not documented lol

you just have to plug in modifiers

i dont have the class

[shadow sorrel]

💔

[atomic fiber]

vamp1 shouldn't be too bad to test
since based on the skill desc there's no fancy scaling

[brittle ravine]

-# watch it not be the case

[clever hare]

I wonder what other skill has a simple description for how it works

[atomic fiber]

seems to be the hybrid variant of leech1
it's variable, deals 0.35 apsp2 phys dmg, and heals for 1 apsp2, heal is unaffected by all/phys out modifiers and crits and gear boosts

some numbers for reference
probably will be somewhat tough to interpret tho

and yes heal amount is also based on targets hit
didn't do number crunching for this
just eyeballed

[brittle ravine]

solve this

[atomic fiber]

wkwkwkwk

randomly got reminded of the fact that indonesians use wkwkwk similarly to how english speakers use hahaha

what an interesting coincidence

[shadow sorrel]

in japan they use the kanji for grass as lol sometimes
i think

i heard that somewhere

[dreamy fog]

In arabic they've got a letter "ha"

ﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـﻫـ

[signal skiff]

retardsec has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[dreamy fog]

ﻫــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬــﻬـ

[signal skiff]

retardsec has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[dreamy fog]

that would be more accurate

[dusky pollen]

honestly a pretty good text for decoration lul

[brittle ravine]

I was really confused about it before

[brittle ravine]

wwwwwww

kusa

[atomic fiber]

that's japanese laughing

[dusky pollen]

grass.

kusa

[atomic fiber]

@dreamy fog wdf!!

u have a 🐛 sir

or is this python version issue

hmm lemme see

ok my bad seems like it is versioning issue

el stupido!!

[dreamy fog]

python version

match statement syntax is like 3.10

tbf it's not even that great handling wise

devs kinda sucked and made it sugar syntax for if/elif statements

could've made it O(1) 😔

[atomic fiber]

ye i found out soon after

[atomic fiber]

sc1 on sos s2 seems to be based on sp1 dmg, and heals 1.5sp2

unaffected by all/mag out

[brittle ravine]

Yeah super funky

[brittle ravine]

now I relatively remember that reduced mana costs also lead to reduced mana recovery (for cases like CAv as an example)

but does it also affect classes that recover mana over time? (LP 3, PCM 5)

[plain pond]

shouldn't

it works for cav because the ability mana cost is just a negative number

[dreamy fog]

its effected by heal out

since it increases current hp past max hp

its very weird

[shadow sorrel]

wasn't there an issue with css and vim in apex azalith similar to this

[dreamy fog]

no that was just math

css 2 skill has a cost of -1000

boss reduces mana costs by -90%

vim makes mana costs go down by -33%

[brittle ravine]

lol

[dreamy fog]

in order to use 2 in apex azalith without depleting your bullets you have to give 1230 mana back (impossible!)

[brittle ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[dusky pollen]

lmfao

Math interaction

[dreamy fog]

just posting here for documentation, class point formula changed

[clever hare]

what a vastly strange change indeed but I can understand why they would want to do such a thing

is this a case of the devs trying to force higher killings with new areas for that or is this just to gate keep folks who are not as low level when they get a class

I can see someone being level 22 or higher having to fight mobs that are now level 30 just to get class point even if it is longer of a fight where they are in the game

[dusky pollen]

They're such pains in the ass.
If they were actually serious on being good they'd make that formula extend the other way, so if you were level 1 and were carried past a 99 monster you'd get +5% per level per kill.

[clever hare]

they really should have a checksum for the players level to make the classes level up faster at lower points for more fun

now, if they want us to have a reason to farm class points along the way, make it like WF where each level is a benefit and not just rank 1-5 is the skills gaining and then you need to slog to rank 10 for a passive or nothing but needed when getting helm forge

[atomic fiber]

i suspect might have to do with server load

since old had an rng component

[atomic fiber]

looks like not changed on wiki yet

also kirbs told me exp and gold formula are standardized now
10x lvl for the former and 3x lvl for latter
haven't found the DNs for it yet tho

[dusky pollen]

3x lvl for gold kinda sucks dick lmao

[atomic fiber]

i haven't confirmed it

nothing on wiki either

will have to login to my alt

[plain pond]

bro thinks the wiki people do anything this fast

[dreamy fog]

Ah yes math.random(1,10)

Think it was negligible

But we'll see

[dreamy fog]

wtf is up with my math

i swear i calculated this correctly before

this is archfiend 2 skill

getting 209 in game

ok i was doing some stupid thing using ap2 and sp2 instead of ap1 and sp1

still not 209

[brittle ravine]

death by aqw math

[clever hare]

are we sure they aren't adding a base level of damage to the value you calulate?

I doubt that would be something they would do but until other aspects are confirmed, this might be how it goes

[dreamy fog]

i was using ap1 and sp1 when should've been using ap and sp

[clever hare]

well, that would do it

[shadow sorrel]

@dreamy fog chaos shaper

[dreamy fog]

So they did secretly nerf it

[atomic fiber]

was it not part of the csp rework?

[dreamy fog]

Nope

2 went from 0.8 - 0.7

[dreamy fog]

WAI

It's legend1

[shadow sorrel]

ya

whats that

[dreamy fog]

Oh dw

There's something up with math

Can you test 5 skill without boosts, and send stat page

Also 2 skill

When alive

For chaos shaper

[shadow sorrel]

alright 1 sec

stat page (im smacking the testing dummy who is dragonkin so this is boostless by technicality ?)

they put elemental on this

i gotta get that hydra blade or whatever is static boostless

[dreamy fog]

Ye that's fine

[shadow sorrel]

do you just want how much damage i do on 2 and 5

[dreamy fog]

Yeah

Both like without auras active, cause I think they may apply debuffs too

[shadow sorrel]

Skill - 2
1504 Crit
407 Non crit

Skill - 5
1497 Forced Crit

[dreamy fog]

Alr I do meth

[shadow sorrel]

awesome sauce if you need anything else ping me

[dreamy fog]

Skill 5 isn't adding up

@atomic fiber why is it 1497

It using AP1?

[plain pond]

cruel hydra blade so good

[dreamy fog]

Ye it using ap1

Isn't legend1 traditionally ap2

[plain pond]

why's there so many words

are they turning every class into 5 essays

[shadow sorrel]

FORCEFULLY REALIGN THE AXIS OF THE PRESENT SPACE

okay bro

[dreamy fog]

EEAPSP

This might be considered a new "base function"?

cause im getting nothing that matches it

oh wait

mag out

stoopid

APSP2 after magout seems to match 180

additional 150% each stack

description adds up ig

[clever hare]

Maybe it will be one giant research paper per class on how they think science should work for the class to their universe

[dreamy fog]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ch01cwS3F_0JX3dQCiEp8rVzmhVpU5tg1Vz29CQ5yCM/edit?usp=sharing

does it work

are you guys able to interact with drop down

[dusky pollen]

where?

@dreamy fog

[dreamy fog]

uh

should be a sheet called main

there is a classes dropdown

that changes some stuff

currently the enhancement do nothing because no meth

[dusky pollen]

No.\

[dreamy fog]

Fail

Ig you guys are gonna have to copy the sheet

Also Amber and cloud I'm gonna need you guys to help me with that later, there's classes I don't own and need json data

If you don't mind

You can run aqw-utils with --logging arg, I usually use this for debugging the app or when I want packet data. The data will be logged to a file called game-monitor-debug.log

When you guys are free

[dusky pollen]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/66737689/enable-drop-down-lists-in-google-sheets-reading-mode
Looks like it isn't possible, cuz it would count as an "edit".

https://www.reddit.com/r/googlesheets/comments/ph43ue/share_google_sheets_as_view_only_but_allow_people/
Someone's suggested pulling it into Google Data Studio, though idk how closely that would resemble what is desired.

[dreamy fog]

found you can protect certain ranges

but probably also not a good idea since a dropdown change from 1 person will be shown for everyone

[shadow sorrel]

yes no worries

i just climbed into bed so if you have a list of classes you need and i may have that would be neat

i will figure out how to do the debug stuff when i am properly at my desk and rested tmr

[ancient marten]

just make multiple sheets

[plain pond]

me making multiple shits

[ancient marten]

ur a shit

[plain pond]

SadgeBusiness

[dusky pollen]

lmfao

[dreamy fog]

Can't I just have instructions at start where where it just points to people how to copy a sheet

[ancient marten]

yeah

but if u make changes they need to keep copying

instead of just referring to ur sheet with multiple calcs

[dreamy fog]

are you saying I should have like 5 copies of one sheet

that i myself change

it sounds hassle for me

😔

[ancient marten]

no i mean like this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1if9TJWmXjs6egsKT501_j5PBmsoclO6tm1f6-XxeO0s/edit?usp=sharing

locked main sheet you just copy paste to the public ones

for changes

if its not database related

[dreamy fog]

i found something actually

https://support.google.com/docs/answer/3093340?hl=en-GB

i will just use this function

[ancient marten]

oh ok

[dreamy fog]

so i'll have a main backend sheet somewhere, which I'll update the json etc

and in main sheet which people can copy will import from it via the function

ig sheet best way to create "syncing"

[ancient marten]

sounds ass

[dreamy fog]

its amazing nerd

gg

=IMPORTRANGE("https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I8VTQ5nGjiYE7f6-UEmGoh-7Vgm459-aBPfCSyXhnAU", "A2:C900")

works

[dreamy fog]

70 done

according to original sheet there's over 150 entries

gonna see what classes i can obtain and do em

otherwise rest is pretty much whale stuff

[clever hare]

you might be able to make use of this: https://developers.google.com/apps-script

not too sure if it will work 100% easily with Google sheets but might get what you are hoping done with it via automation or something similar

[shadow sorrel]

tell me which ones you don't have as well

[dreamy fog]

Uh go to classes page and just don't do the ones there

[shadow sorrel]

got it

[shadow sorrel]

youre gonna have to explain this to me like im 5

i know how to run aqw utils, dont know about the logging arg

[dreamy fog]

So you do
python main.py --logging

And it should begin capturing stuff to a file called game-monitor-debug.log or something

[shadow sorrel]

ah yes the text doc has appeared in the folder

i tried swot and scrolled down, a bunch of description text appeared but the document is really fat

[dreamy fog]

Anyway when you change classes there's like 4 packets that send. I think it'll take a while for you to get the specific ones so just from the first changeClass packet copy to the bottom. And just dm it since wall of text

[shadow sorrel]

sounds good

[dreamy fog]

Like cmd sAct is one of them I need that's there

cmd auras+p is another

[dreamy fog]

And there's one called changeClass that occurs before those two

Oke lemme find the name

[shadow sorrel]

kk

[dreamy fog]

updateClass

From anything after that just copy paste to avoid you doing a billion things

[shadow sorrel]

okie dokie

[shadow sorrel]

im unsure what exactly to copy but this is abyssal angels shadow

i started at 'updateClass' and stopped at Finished parsing data

[dreamy fog]

alr this is fine

[shadow sorrel]

because that sounds like it finished and underneath that was just

so you just want me to dump this raw shit for classes in here? just remembered dms lul

[dreamy fog]

First packet

wrong one

[shadow sorrel]

no worries

so dont start at the update class

start at the {'t

[dreamy fog]

no it isnt that

sorry talking to myself

[dreamy fog]

yes

[shadow sorrel]

did i send all the packets as one big message and thats the issue

[dreamy fog]

ok found actual 2nd packet

{'t': 'xt', 'b': {'r': -1, 'o': {'cmd': 'aura+p', 'auras': [{'nam': 'Engraved Arrows', 'e': [{'val': 0.12, 'id': 823, 'sta': 'cdo', 'typ': '+'}]}, {'nam': 'Strategist Ace', 'e': [{'val': 0.18, 'id': 824, 'sta': 'tdo', 'typ': '+'}, {'val': 1.18, 'id': 825, 'sta': 'WIS', 'typ': '*'}]}, {'nam': 'Guess They Never Miss Huh', 'e': [{'val': 0.1, 'id': 826, 'sta': 'thi', 'typ': '+'}, {'val': 0.15, 'id': 827, 'sta': 'scm', 'typ': '+'}]}], 'tInf': 'p:5789'}}}

[dreamy fog]

yeah but idk if you know when packet ends or starts

[shadow sorrel]

i dont

im trying to grasp when it ends

i think i get when it starts

[dreamy fog]

so i got you to send it all

ill explain json in a sec

[shadow sorrel]

yeah maybe its better that way instead of me chopping it up

theres better chance of what you want being in there if i send as a whole rather than trying to cut it up, im scared i might leave something out

[dreamy fog]

this is the 3rd one

[dreamy fog]

ye its fine like this

[shadow sorrel]

okay ive got a class list ill compare against yours and see what i can contribute, ill drop raw data in dms

[dreamy fog]

w worked

[dreamy fog]

dw about chopping it up too much lol

okay so json usually like this sorta structure. "Key" : value and separated by commas.

{"name": "jeff", "age": 12}

But you can have multiple objects. In one, hence multiple {}

{"name": "jeff", "age": 12, "school": {"name": "real high school", "location": "Poland", "class": "3A"}, "friends": 0}

People often think this is code but it's just a format of representing data. It's not anything that runs

[plain pond]

jeff

[dreamy fog]

Anyway it's not really necessary for you to know this, just make sure from 1st occurrence of "updateClass", you copy from the first {

and should be easy

[shadow sorrel]

ha jeffs a fuckin loser

[clever hare]

he is a mega loser

[dreamy fog]

oke since all the mem variants of starter classes are a 10% increase to stats I am just gonna add the following json to each passive.

{"nam":"Legendary","e":[{"val":1.1,"id":69,"sta":"STR","typ":"*"},{"val":1.1,"id":69,"sta":"INT","typ":"*"},{"val":1.1,"id":69,"sta":"END","typ":"*"},{"val":1.1,"id":69,"sta":"LUK","typ":"*"}]}

[signal skiff]

retardsec has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[dreamy fog]

What are the mem variants of classes again

Protosartorium
Sorcerer
Acolyte
Warlord

[shadow sorrel]

assassin

[dreamy fog]

Renegade is one apparently

[shadow sorrel]

yeah theres two sometimes

beast warrior and warlord have the same skills but theyre both warrior upgrades

i wonder if any others are like that

[shadow sorrel]

ya thats for rogue iirc

assassin is ninja

[dreamy fog]

oh assasin is ninja upgrade

[shadow sorrel]

mhm

pumpkin lord is also a warrior upgrade lmao

[dreamy fog]

ig i wont bother with clones as original sheet didn't

82 classes now

[shadow sorrel]

yea no need

[dreamy fog]

68 left

oh theres phcm

i was gonna ask mole for that

[shadow sorrel]

anyway i think the legendary classes are
Sorcerer
Acolyte
Warlord/pumpkin lord/beast warrior
protosartorium
assassin
renegade

theres a couple odd others but these suffice

like witch is an acolyte clone and lightcaster test is sorcerer

[brittle ravine]

other bits should be here I think

[dusky pollen]

oh wtf, really? that's fun

[dreamy fog]

its only 10% so difference isn't as large

considering after efficiency formula it's like

idk its just mid

[atomic fiber]

it does
u can basically make your own custom functions
which is pretty convenient

so like u can do this

[dreamy fog]

thats pretty convenient

but say if person copies the sheet, does it use this

or do they gotta enable scripts first

[atomic fiber]

im not too sure actually
the scripts are technically tied to the sheet
but i think it depends on how u copy the sheet?

[brittle ravine]

\

[dreamy fog]

real

[dusky pollen]

Knowing that the Community Team is filled with nonsense drama, it fills you with determination.

[brittle ravine]

good luck y'all

I don't wanna be cursed with an NDA

[dusky pollen]

aya

[dreamy fog]

wait if i start doing tis

does this mean i cant do my nerdism

[dusky pollen]

Prolly, if you’re using internal docs lul

[clever hare]

they will be gutting us if we do this

[ancient marten]

bro saying it like hes 100% in

[dreamy fog]

True

[dreamy fog]

Didn't you do testing some time back

[ancient marten]

and i got blacklisted

[signal skiff]

:crossed_swords: Congratulations Hero of Lore! @ancient marten, you've LEVELED UP!
You are now level 17! We salute you, hero! :star2:

[plain pond]

wajaja

[ancient marten]

i will daily brazil u

[dreamy fog]

Noob

[dusky pollen]

heh

feels like this entire forum is an anti-fish thing

[dreamy fog]

Yes

[atomic fiber]

i find it kinda funny u included battle healer/warrior

[shadow sorrel]

they're different right?

i thought there was something about the battle versions of classes that they didn't get the starter class changes or something

or that there was a weaker version to use for non op pvp

[dreamy fog]

They're weaker ye

[shadow sorrel]

i just vaguely recall something like that

ah makes sense

[dreamy fog]

Healer 2 skill is shit

Does static 100 dmg

[atomic fiber]

soooo
looks like you're missing these classes?

chrono chaorruptor
chrono dataknight
chronocommander
chronomancer prime
classic exalted soul cleaver
classic legion doomknight
cryomancer
evolved leprechaun
frost spiritreaver
glacial berserker
highseas commander
infinity knight
legion swordmaster assassin
lycan
mindbreaker
naval commander
necrotic chronomancer
northlands monk
obsidian no class
overworld chronomancer
paladin chronomancer
phantom chronomancer
prismatic clawsuit
psionic mindbreaker
quantum chronomancer
royal vampire lord
savage glaceran warlord
shadowscythe general
shadowweaver of time
the collector
timekeeper

and a bunch of other paid ones i dont have ig

okay i see
so u just delimited the 3 packets with |
lul

why not chuck em in 3 cells 👀

tho ig there's not much of a difference

[brittle ravine]

what the fuck

text wall jumpscare

[dreamy fog]

There's some bit more because parser issue but that doesn't matter since I can fix pretty easily

But otherwise yes it's gud

Just send the data in dms or whatever to avoid wall of text

Thank yous

I think I can get LSMA now probably

[ancient marten]

he probably did it because i did
and i did it because it was unique enough

they did something else that u could read from as opposed to literal renamed kits

[atomic fiber]

i have never even touched those classes

[ancient marten]

they just do set values using cmpm in pvp

[dreamy fog]

did LSMA

LSMA BALLS

idk

lemme get lycan

somehow rank 8

i thought i maxed it during that pirate war event

[dreamy fog]

so this list probably lot smaller now

after ambers help

[shadow sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-silly-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-11748501437476694103

[dreamy fog]

Abyssal Angel's Shadow
Acolyte
Alpha Omega
Arachnomancer
Arcana Invoker
Archfiend
Archmage
Archpaladin
Artifact Hunter
Assassin
Barber
Bard
Battle Bard
Battle Healer
Battle Warrior
Beastmaster
Berserker
Blaze Binder
Blood Ancient
Blood Sorceress
Blood Titan
Chaos Avenger
Chaos Shaper
Chaos Slayer
Chrono Assassin
Chrono Shadowslayer/Chrono Shadowhunter
Chunin
Classic Defender
Classic Doomknight
Classic Dragonlord
Classic Guardian
Classic Ninja
Classic Paladin
Classic Pirate
Corrupted Chronomancer/Timeless Chronomancer
Cryomancer
Daimon
Dark Lord
Darkblood Stormking
Deathknight
Deathknight Lord
Defender
Doom Metal Necro
Doomknight
Dragon Knight/Drakkar Knight
Dragon of Time
Dragonlord
Dragonslayer
Dragonslayer General
Dragonsoul Shinobi
Drakel Warlord
Elemental Dracomancer
Empyrean Chronomancer/Immortal Chronomancer/Eternal Chronomancer
Enforcer
Eternal Inversionist
Evolved Leprechaun
Evolved Pumpkin Lord
Evolved Shaman
Exalted Soul Cleaver/Exalted Harbinger
Flame Dragon Warrior
Frost Spiritreaver
Frostval Barbarian
Guardian
Healer
Highseas Commander
Horc Evader
Immortal Dark Caster
Infinite Legion Dark Caster
Legendary Elemental Warrior/Ultra Elemental Warrior
Legendary Hero
Legion Doomknight
Legion Paladin
Legion Revenant
Legion Swordmaster Assassin
Lightcaster
Lightmage
Lord of Order
Lycan
Mage
Martial Artist
Master of Moglins/Dark Master of Moglins
Master Ranger
Mechajouster
Mindbreaker
Naval Commander
Necromancer
Neo Metal Necro
Ninja
No Class
Northlands Monk
Oracle
Paladin
Pirate
Prismatic Clawsuit
Protosartorium
Psionic Mindbreaker
Pyromancer
Renegade
Rogue
Royal Battlemage
Rustbucket
Scarlet Sorceress
Sentinel
Shadowscythe General
Shadowstalker of Time/Shadowwalker of Time/Shadowweaver of Time
Shaman
Skyguard Grenadier
Sorcerer
Sovereign of Storms
Stonecrusher/Infinity Titan
Swordmaster
Thief of Hours
Timekeeper
Timeless Dark Caster
Troll Spellsmith
Ultra Omniknight/Dark Ultra Omniknight
Umbra (Infinity Demo Class)
Undead Leperchaun
Undeadslayer
Vampire Lord

Verus Doomknight
Vindicator of Thae
Void Highlord
Warlord
Warrior
Yami No Ronin

The current list

[shadow sorrel]

vindicator of thae

[dreamy fog]

OK I forgo

I think I got used to saying vindicator of thae to the point I just instinctively wrote it when doing VOT

[shadow sorrel]

imagine it's just vindicator of mouse

[brittle ravine]

[dusky pollen]

if he really got vindicated he’d have been picked up by AE in the previous staff hiring lul

[fluid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-scare-scared-anxious-afraid-gif-14256344915339028066

[dusky pollen]

ello PRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME.

[fluid pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/950521483338321990/1299529642679734322/1092865142443757568.gif

[dreamy fog]

we said his name three times and he came

it's like bloody mary

[ancient marten]

so did u apply

and did u get in

[clever hare]

Primal is here

how are ya?

[dreamy fog]

Yes

[dreamy fog]

No

Clearly I am stupid and failed to answer the questions

[ancient marten]

its ok ive heard all the nos before

if u did get in ur required to say no anyway

[fluid pond]

Good, u?

[clever hare]

always doing good

thanks for asking, Primal

@fluid pond

[fluid pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/950521483338321990/1299529642679734322/1092865142443757568.gif

[clever hare]

https://media.tenor.com/3cYUb-Q7gx4AAAAi/baldur's-gate-karlach.gif

[dreamy fog]

How do I prove my no is real

[clever hare]

Could it be via letter of not being taken in?

no idea if AE has proper courtesy with rejecting candidates

[dusky pollen]

lmao

[atomic fiber]

had to do some tinkering with tshark but here ya go

@dreamy fog

oops wrong channel

[ancient marten]

they dont

[dreamy fog]

OK this is great thank yous

[dreamy fog]

tcm/ccm and ocm/ucm having 3000 auras

wrong channel

[brittle ravine]

Make a class that does so many checks, it singlehandedly slows down the entire server

[dreamy fog]

LOL

[dusky pollen]

(Also I'm deleting this comment after you see it)

[dreamy fog]

😭

Yeah I see that too

[dusky pollen]

[dreamy fog]

When I see them reports it's already

[dusky pollen]

that's so skull though

[dreamy fog]

"Well well well"

And

Idk

But average racism

Atleast 10 comments

[dusky pollen]

"the usual suspects"

yep, I see it all the Time on Instagram now

[clever hare]

so maybe it interacts with each player depending on the mana, health, and their stamina

then it interacts wtih the enemy based on tag, health, and some other stats

[clever hare]

@wise dew Also here

[wise dew]

yeah

[dreamy fog]

spell2 has joined the damage functions

dealing 237 in-game, ap1 based

grass gathered improves damage dealt of each spell2 skill

so stacking mechanic

increases by a factor of .5

[dreamy fog]

mm

[fluid pond]

ew, go back to the cave man

get out of here while u can

[clever hare]

mirror dimension Primal?

how scary

what did you do to normal Primal?

[dreamy fog]

Inverted colour primal when

[dreamy fog]

for skill 5 non-crit damage from 8 to 0 stacks

how does this work

52 is just ap1 * 0.25

spell2 gives 0.5 increase per stack

but 5th skill is doing something stupid

5th skill cannot be doing this

[dreamy fog]

tested with different build

[wise dew]

dw man im just here to cheer for you guys

[dreamy fog]

Your name is the sound of ducks walking