road to 200k messages

[novel harbor]

no

[trail forum]

and kdh is a baller

[novel harbor]

lol

they got 2

[valid river]

oh u lie

[trail forum]

ok i was shocked

[valid river]

I swear Mitoma >>> Ndiaye

i dont get his hype

mitoma better numbers

better attacking side

[trail forum]

i dont like the 6.5 mid price point at all

[novel harbor]

same except sarr

[valid river]

6.0?

[trail forum]

yeah sarr is decent but if you have mateta i dont rate the double up

[novel harbor]

paqueta

trial is over

[trail forum]

i rate gordon tho

[novel harbor]

he'll be back to like 10-15 g/a surely

[valid river]

U like Paqueta?

[novel harbor]

i do 👀

i think hes being undervalued heavily

by most

on pens too

[trail forum]

fulkrug is balling too no

[novel harbor]

👀

[valid river]

yes

[marsh palm]

is it arias

[kind egret]

very bland

[trail forum]

arias is the only reason i like JSL a litle

[kind egret]

6.5 im undecided

[novel harbor]

@trail forum 😉

[lone glade]

fulkrug 😭

[hollow ermine]

It’s more like, there’s a slight chance the results here are different, if they are, I could definitely maximize that point

[novel harbor]

watch

[kind egret]

I decided to not draft until last night

filter out excessive noise

[valid river]

Ok screw yall, Ndiaye flop is literally the most predicable flop stop crying

mitoma

[lone glade]

will grealish be on pens now hes at everton 👀

[valid river]

cmhere buddy

[hollow ermine]

[trail forum]

didnt grealish miss a pen in the champ playoff final

[marsh palm]

the thing is how r u estimating its true probability

[hollow ermine]

Also why does market thing Liverpool are battering Bournemouth

[novel harbor]

i still dont like ur sarr pick tho

[valid river]

Who was asking about reijnders rotation

[trail forum]

cuz bou sold their defence

[valid river]

He's playing GW 1,2,3 now because he rotates for JSL Gw1 and Mitoma GW3

[trail forum]

prob

[hollow ermine]

This is an old draft

Sarr is literally any 5.0

Whatever your best 5.0 is just put him there

I’m leaning towards ayari rn

[trail forum]

kdh

[novel harbor]

i wont have a 5mil midfielder

ngl

[elder cargo]

beef effect

[hollow ermine]

Thing is

If I get king

What am I using that 0.5 for?

I have no use for it

[kind egret]

@trail forum idk what else to do tbh, apart from getting CBIT defender

[novel harbor]

how are you defining true probability

[hollow ermine]

I’m not getting a 5.0 gk

[kind egret]

im personally ok with it

whats the reputation of CHO

here

[hollow ermine]

I’m not doubling up on any defence

[oak jasper]

mid

[valid river]

Xhaka best safe one

[marsh palm]

well i mean i guess im trying to say what are you using that projections aren’t to find value

[novel harbor]

my own biases

[valid river]

Are we scoring goals?

no

:)

enjoy your 3 points

CS point

[novel harbor]

or in other words my own priors

[hollow ermine]

I guess I do have use for the 0.5 after all

[marsh palm]

fair

[valid river]

get king to xhaka

or kdh

[hollow ermine]

Lacroix long term better pick than Porro

[marsh palm]

but thats not super similar to sports betting value where ure actually finding edges compared to what a book gives

[hollow ermine]

So….

[hollow ermine]

Going against the market in ofitself is already a bias innit

You’re essentially saying “this is what the numbers say is optimal, I don’t agree”

“Why don’t you agree”

“Cause blah blah blah”

“But you have no statistical evidence”

“I still don’t agree”

Pretty much a bias at that point

Sounds like the average chat with an Arsenal fan

[valid river]

Warra trophy

[marsh palm]

i meant moreso that with sports betting if u want to profit long-term from a % game its about finding lines that are behind in what the expected probability is (whether its as simple as an injury not being processed which ik is unlikely just saying) or more likely other books updating their lines farther then one

idk how u can implement that type of strategy with only like solio review and then ur own preferences especially if it’s just bias or belief

[hollow ermine]

I don’t bet really but the idea I think jade is getting there is that at the very least it’s still a market, it might not be the same market but it’s still a market, meaning that it will 100% also be slow in processing that

Like how these models rate penalty’s so high

Or how they won’t consider how terrible an attack is despite giving you teams like United and wolves in optimization

[hollow ermine]

Anyway

Lacroix is better than Porro

I’m going back to Ayari

Those fixtures though

Spurs watch tonight

[valid river]

ok im done researching

rutter > Ndiaye

Ndiaye has no one characteristic better than rutter

Both pens probs

he does give me nkunku vibes sadly

[lavish parcel]

Ndiaye has got some good bps potential

[marsh chasm]

does this team need any changes?

[lavish parcel]

The main reason he is in my team over Branthwaite

[hollow ermine]

Yes

How much is kostoulas

[marsh chasm]

5.0

[lavish parcel]

I think 5

[marsh chasm]

trying to play bb in gameweek 2

[trail forum]

hmm

[hollow ermine]

That guy isn’t gonna see many minutes for a bb

[trail forum]

thats a pretty dog bench boost tbh

[lavish parcel]

Just do triple Burnley defence if you are BB2

[trail forum]

just because we have 2 chips doesnt mean you get to bin them gw2

you're sacking off an entire chip and good team for an extra 5 points in gw2

the upside is nothing the downside is everything

restart

[marsh chasm]

so dont play bb early

[lavish parcel]

You can but you need to have a proper bench boost

[marsh chasm]

im thinking dorgu to esteve, wirtz to ndiaye and kostoulas to evanilson

[lavish parcel]

Meaning players who play 90 mins and get you some returns

[marsh chasm]

and richards to lacroix

[blazing gazelle]

Is this garbage?

[hollow ermine]

You can but you have to have a good bb meaning you’re sacrificing somewhere

[prime plinth]

Double spurs defense

[lavish parcel]

Not really, I have seen worse

[cedar hull]

kostoulas hasnt played a minute of preseason btw

[latent depot]

Does Eze play GW1 even if he's leaving?

[hollow ermine]

Yes

[prime plinth]

Ngl I love seeing analytics have double spurs when we play Brighton bou and city

[latent depot]

Sanchez out

[cedar hull]

vicario is fine at 5

[prime plinth]

Porro is fine. Or vdv or romero maybe as a speculative "fixtures play"

[hollow ermine]

How far are the 5.0 gk’s to the 4.5 ones

Doesn’t seem very far

[latent depot]

I'm on Vicario. Dubravka covers GW2, Brighton and Bournemouth are xG merchants so Vicario can farm saves

[prime plinth]

More than one is a poor risk. Frank doesn't play for clean sheets vs weaker opposition. Don't go off games vs arsenal and Newcastle

[blazing gazelle]

Think I saw 2 point difference in projected between the 4.5 and 5.0’s (the first 6gws)

[prime plinth]

He plays man defense like ange in games. Just not as frequent

Maybe Vic and porro or something is fine. I still think It is speculative gw1

[hollow ermine]

lol

[prime plinth]

Tbf as I say that. Best back 4 available and palhinha. Maybe the fixtures are fine enough

I just don't think we get any positives from city bou and Brighton for fpl

Attack sure

[hollow ermine]

Porro for me rn seems more defcon oriented than attacking oriented first few weeks

If that’s the case

Then I’m definitely not investing there

[prime plinth]

Idm porro. Think tark is safer but nothing wrong with porro given attacking potential and defcon and cs

Problem is porro in preseason sometimes filling in as rcb

In build up

[hollow ermine]

Yeah but the attacking potential is reduced compared to ange, I can find cs potential elsewhere and there are better defcon options

[prime plinth]

Was bombing up the other game though

[prime plinth]

Fixtures overrated as well

For attackers it is awesome

Which is why i prefer porro to Romero and stuff

[latent depot]

Oh, Dubravka has a shoulder injury. It's not just match fitness. Need him to be confirmed fit at Friday presser for me to pick Vicario

Obv minor injury

[cerulean cape]

I've gone off tark

[latent depot]

It's not ridiculous that he makes his debut at home GW4 after IB1

What's wrong with Tark?

[cerulean cape]

Not a lot

But porro better first 6?

With fh4

[latent depot]

😂 analytics

[cerulean cape]

I own both in most drafts

[latent depot]

I don't mind the pick, neutral on it

[cerulean cape]

New stadium, myko injury

Even if he gets 8 DC points from those games, porro might should outscore

[latent depot]

I don't mind any Spurs/Esteve rotation pick

[cerulean cape]

Guess need to see udogie injury first too

Spence will take some porro mins if udogie is fit

[latent depot]

My main dislike is Spurs/Esteve taking up 2 defensive spots

[quick dawn]

salah team

[cerulean cape]

I'll be 5 atb

With porro

[latent depot]

If Udogie is fit, it won't be Porro always going forward

[cerulean cape]

That too

[latent depot]

5atb with Porro playing GW2 I dislike

[cerulean cape]

For 1 gw its fine

He also got 14 in reverse last year

It's possible

Early season city shits the bed

[latent depot]

Spurs have been shitting the bed since December

[cerulean cape]

DCL to Leeds

5.5m fwd alert

[quick dawn]

could do frimpong and mateta to gakpo and jsl

[novel harbor]

oh so piroe no longer 👀

[elder cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-lebron-james-starting-5-shouting-yelling-gif-13955809540164079004

[valid river]

We all hype on JSL?

20 goals this season

[elder cargo]

Owned DCL for a brief period last season and it was insanely painful

[elder cargo]

No

[marsh palm]

yes

[valid river]

Same

[cerulean cape]

Be 3 months before he can start a game, and 6 months out after his first start

[marsh palm]

hes on my haaland team

[quick dawn]

actually solanke is fit now right

[novel harbor]

depends what u mean by fit

he'll play tonight tho ye

[elder cargo]

he means he’s good looking

[cerulean cape]

Solanke selection bias will be fun tonight

[novel harbor]

he is the best 75

[cerulean cape]

Starts today. Will he start 2 games in 4 days after iniury

[novel harbor]

7.5 tbf

but ye

[elder cargo]

I do like Solanke as a pick but he would be much more appealing if they had Eze already

[novel harbor]

hes just too much caution

[cerulean cape]

Benched today. He's rested to start at the weekend

[novel harbor]

i think he'll start

but myb

[cerulean cape]

Solanke starting or benching doesn't help

For fpl

[novel harbor]

it does imo it just still isnt enough

[broken patio]

Uhhh just want Rogers news

[quick dawn]

emery doesnt like giving info ngl

[cerulean cape]

Gakpo is also better than solanke

Same price

[novel harbor]

gakpo is not outscoring solanke

in first few gw's

[marsh palm]

cucu is overrated fpl wise

[quick dawn]

start solanke rodon 1st bench?

[cerulean cape]

Starting pool fwd for 3 gws outscores an injured solanke lol

[elder cargo]

Spurs run up till 7/8 is so tasteful

[marsh palm]

he bombs up and inverts well but i dont see GA opportunities man

[cerulean cape]

Spurs that also plays city

[elder cargo]

Give us Eze

[novel harbor]

are u not talking about in abstract?

both being fit

who would get most points

in first like 10 gw's

its absolutely solanke lol

[cerulean cape]

There's fit to start, and fit to play 90 and had a full preseason

[novel harbor]

well then the comparison seems silly

[cerulean cape]

10 gws talk is dead when a lot will wc7/8

[latent depot]

Wow didn't realise that Sanchez attempted so many passes per game, that's really good. He'll somewhat regularly get 2bps for 70% completion that other GKs just don't get

[cerulean cape]

I'm comparing 2 players with the same price point

[marsh palm]

@hollow ermine do u still have cucu in ur team

did u see ac game, i rewatched up to the red card and everything that was played inside the box was directed towards jp

enzo could also be a sneaky goal threat since he bombs up like cucurella and is involved in corners and set pieces inside the box

[trail forum]

ive alr accepted rogers is out, i dont wanna have to consider him again

[novel harbor]

price is irrelevant, solanke has no value injured

value != price

theres no point comparing players with fundamentally different value points

[marsh palm]

i think most chelsea goals come from jp palmer and enzo

[novel harbor]

gosh i feel like a marxist saying this

[marsh palm]

altho cs+assist for cucurella is really good

[cerulean cape]

Assist is 1 less point than DC

Assists are dead for defs in fpl

[novel harbor]

will eze play gw1 btw?

[quick dawn]

value is subjective

[novel harbor]

wrong

well

kind of

i might have to pill you in dms later on econ. would be fun

are u still a friedman fan?

[trail forum]

jade glazing bezzo after finding out hes a geoguesser goat

[novel harbor]

thats still crazy to me that i remembered him

its purely becuz of his pfp at the time, i always found it so out of place

[hollow ermine]

Yeah I did , I still have him

I don’t think he’s good or anything

Like really good

I just like the guy

[waxen river]

Said nobody ever

[prime plinth]

Can't wait. Dcl to cs wipe my tark

[prime plinth]

Worse fixtures. No pens. Chance they sign someone. What if wirtz plays lw

For gw1 based on current info. Yeah maybe tbf

[prime plinth]

He was operating a lot on the left vs palace

Either way they gotta sign another attacker

For backup st/lw at least

Wirtz should just play central and drift into channels

If nobody is signed by deadline. Gakpo fine short term play

[novel harbor]

tbf wirtz can play on the left

he has for germany a few times i think

[elder cargo]

Gakpo starting is not really in question

[novel harbor]

idk if he rly would for liverpool tho

so doesnt rly matter

[elder cargo]

he’s going to start for now

[prime plinth]

It is long term

Like beyond a few gws if they sign isak

[elder cargo]

Thankfully we don’t have to worry about long term in this game

[prime plinth]

Mins for sure

Liverpool need a attacker

They have no depth atm

[novel harbor]

this is a good example of what i mean by ur own priors btw. you can reasonably disagree with this as you can with anything but its ur own personally expressed projection that you can apply to solver making it unique

[trail forum]

based

[prime plinth]

Mateta is only being picked cause of pens and scoring in community shield

Fixtures aren't good enough for my liking

Would rather punt gyokeres

Or just go wood with 5 easy fixtures

[prime plinth]

Basically don't overrate analytics as it all has relative speculation for a conclusion

[trail forum]

but they're just not comparable

[prime plinth]

Esp gw1

[trail forum]

watkins to gyok maybe

[prime plinth]

Sure

I'm just saying who I rather have

Even with price mixed in

[trail forum]

what does relative speculation for a conclusion mean 😭

lmaooo

[prime plinth]

I think gyokeres vs leeds offers so much upside

Mateta vs Chelsea forest villa with 2 away. Idk

[prime plinth]

None of it is a sure thing

It can narrow down things. Even that is still difficult gw1

What we see in preseason doesn't usually reflect

Outside of roles

Mins performances etc just don't reflect

Its like porro as a pick

[hollow ermine]

Long term

[hollow ermine]

Holy shit

[prime plinth]

Looking into his cbit in friendlies vs arsenal and Newcastle is a small sample. His role could be worsened. he is building up at rcb sometimes

[hollow ermine]

Holy reach

[novel harbor]

i mean i wouldnt even do what the person in this ss is doing

[hollow ermine]

Who’s making these scenarios

[novel harbor]

i find it quite arbritrary

i'd much rather look at mateta's historical xg with/without eze and then deduce what to change mateta's xG by

my way of changing tielemans pen share down to 0 was through a similar method

thats kind of why i said "you can reasonably disagree"

[prime plinth]

Either way I'm probably off with my explanation. Analytics is fine. Idk if it is that helpful gw1

It has a lot to do with past data and mixing that into ever changing variables and team circumstance. It won't be a true reflection of many things

Won't pick mateta personally due to fixtures. Won't pick joao Pedro purely off preseason form

[pale tiger]

Solanke time?

[prime plinth]

His role and minutes are fine but not ideal. Many times has struggled to deliver on np g/a gw to gw.

Jp

[prime plinth]

Wait and see

Could even wait till gw3

[trail forum]

ah cmon you know that sample size is wayy to small

lmaoo

[prime plinth]

Mateta should be fine but it is just a bad fixture play

[trail forum]

ok guys apparently we cant use preseason, we cant use stats, we cant use analytics

wtf can we use

gonna just make a team on pure vibes

[prime plinth]

No it is just important to separate using just analytics and very minor percentages as the be all and end all

[shrewd dust]

make a team purely based on how you’d react in live rant if they scored

[cedar hull]

Slowly turning into solio analytics over here

[trail forum]

thats what i do ngl

[shrewd dust]

mateta essential

[prime plinth]

Has to be a combination of factors outside of just analytics

[trail forum]

i would so go no salah

but the thought of having to open liverant with no salah

is my idea of hell

[twin ice]

why would it be?

[trail forum]

same reason i want pedro, i think they look good, fun to watch, i dont wanna be depressed when he scores

[prime plinth]

I'm going no salah. Is more of a personal thought on what he does at 14.
5m. Most of his seasons haven't been worth that amount

And fixtures aren't perfect. Gw4 fh covers that

[novel harbor]

ye it probs is

[twin ice]

you bet, got two bullet header centre backs, fuck everyone else

[prime plinth]

Gw 1-5 is only true issue of no salah. Which is fine if you get 4m and gains in other gws

1 and 5*

[twin ice]

and a mad crosser

[prime plinth]

Now salah could just go off gw2 as well. You have to accept that can happen

[twin ice]

some people still play the game for fun

[latent depot]

Andersen didn't get DC points in either game vs Brentford last season got 9 CBITs in only game vs Man United and got DC points once in 3 games vs relegated teams (reference for Leeds GW4)

[prime plinth]

Gakpo likely won't be in the team. Made the draft the other day

Konsa might come in. Gw 5 and 7 vs promoted teams

[novel harbor]

ye we established andersen's starting 5 cbit stats are very underwhelming

[prime plinth]

It is ok

Richard or lacroix probably better

[slim bane]

Yea I get the fixtures

I’m just thinking if I gna transfer him in

[prime plinth]

More goal threat

[slim bane]

Whenever I get needs to outscore mateta by 4

[prime plinth]

At least i think Richards has as well

[slim bane]

Over gw1-3

[prime plinth]

Only need him gw2,4

[novel harbor]

9.7 is averaged from last year relegation fodder

[prime plinth]

Yeah i wonder if gyokeres does enough for me to take that early punt

That's why I prefer wood draft

1m itb

[slim bane]

But they’ve been godawful in preseason

[prime plinth]

Wirtz or moush could move to bruno. Saka can move as well

[prime plinth]

Who

[slim bane]

Forest

[prime plinth]

Forest attack ig

[slim bane]

1 goal in 7 is mad

[prime plinth]

They've mostly had rotated attacks

5 clean sheets though

Worst case you can move wood to Newcastle attacker or solanke gw3

His first 2 fixtures are still better than mateta and stuff

[twin ice]

surely you have Brighton attackers then

[prime plinth]

I expect forest turn up when it matters. Wood has been 10+ goals every season damn near as starter

[slim bane]

I have pool and palace

And the customary cold palmer

[marsh palm]

im gonna start doing this

salah 4-5-1 team already looks good but playing around with what i think is gonna happen helps

im off of haaland now i think especially with the season so close 2 days gives me enough time to look at a squad of 15 and look at all scenarios

might play around with jp and solanke

malen too

[silent jasper]

I am on double Palace attack but might change
Too much gamble on Palace due to bad fixtures

[slim bane]

Yea

[silent jasper]

not many good 6.5M mid picks to be honest

[novel harbor]

my friend jsut got back on haaland

his team actually looks ok

think he just needs to balance out the midfield and forwards

[silent jasper]

no Salah and starting Anderson/Arios each week isn't ideal

[novel harbor]

ye i think no salah is kind of the point

[silent jasper]

really West Ham def? I would rather get AWB if he really wants one West Ham def

[novel harbor]

id rather diouf i think

but ye either

[silent jasper]

neither is really good to be honest

Richards/VDV/Konsa are there

[novel harbor]

i agree but i do like the potential of diouf

vdv and konsa are just as bad

if not worse

[silent jasper]

at least their defence might not be as bad as West Ham
I think Spurs might improve under Frank

in terms of their def

[novel harbor]

maybe

[silent jasper]

I am trying to find a 4.5 or 5.0 def to see if he can rotate well with KDH

[novel harbor]

everton rotates best with brentford

from what i remember

but idk if collins is gonna be as good as he was last yr

it was either brentford or bournemouth

or both lol

[silent jasper]

I owned him towards the end of last season when he gave me tons of 1 and 2 pointer

[novel harbor]

ye this doesnt rly matter

[novel harbor]

bournemouth have just signed their new cb whos meant to be decent for cbit so if it is bournemouth then 👀

[silent jasper]

I have Petrovic at the moment so will consider, thanks!

[novel harbor]

ye it was both after all

think bmouth rotation looks better

do we think murillo with no rotation is better than neco and lacroix rotation. just realised i never actually considered this kind of comparison

[silent jasper]

might upgrade Petro to Sanchez and VDV to Bournemouth def I guess, yeah it looks good

[novel harbor]

thoughts

[silent jasper]

I might stick to Murillo with no rotation, Guehi should be joining Pool and not sure who Palace will sign for their defender tbh

[novel harbor]

thats a good point

oh wait i forgot that u can just rotate forest and fulham

like almost just as well

[quick dawn]

yes i like friedman but i wouldnt follow everything he proposed like the k% rule i would probably be more like scott sumner

i am free market on most economic issues

[marsh chasm]

Changed up my team. How is this

[acoustic edge]

neoliberalism 🥰🥰

[acoustic edge]

it’s nice

ibsr i’d go watkins ndiaye -> marmoush JSL and use the .5 to get a 5.5 instead of senesi/diouf

but that’s personal preference and risk atp

[quick dawn]

2 days left and i cant decide between salah and haaland

[marsh chasm]

yeah same

been switching back and forth all week

[latent depot]

Without any creativity at CAM, maybe Porro will spam crosses

[acoustic edge]

on free kicks btw

[latent depot]

If Porro has a good game tonight, he's in

[acoustic edge]

i like the idea of porro if nothing else than a move to munoz in 4 is obvious

[quick dawn]

solanke and rodon is actually fine if solanke misses gw1

[latent depot]

Don't really want Branthwaite double up

[quick dawn]

only issue is if he subs on

[acoustic edge]

post team?

[acoustic edge]

yeah but why

why would u go solanke if he misses a top 2 fixture

[trail forum]

porro to solanke goal will send me spiraling

[quick dawn]

well i dont think we will be sure

[latent depot]

Lacroix covers GW2 for Porro, GW4 for Milenkovic, GW5 for Tark. I could potentially make 0 transfers before WC7

[acoustic edge]

yeah nice team tbf

[novel harbor]

go dms let me beat this out of you

[waxen river]

Which one

[novel harbor]

left

do u have murillo already

[waxen river]

Yes

[trail forum]

4 good options vs watkins and 3 shitters

lowk

[waxen river]

This is the left team and right team

[novel harbor]

milenkovic to neco and kelleher to vicario

[trail forum]

451 isnt very flexible imo

[acoustic edge]

yo drop the team

[novel harbor]

it’s barely changed

[prime plinth]

Have a feeling wirtz is not going to be worth it early on given his assist vs goal ratio could be a little off

He's a safe pick though

Easy pick given he is always going to be around certain numbers creatively

[acoustic edge]

‼️‼️

made this in a min

[prime plinth]

Haha no salah no haaland is king

[novel harbor]

basically as good as it gets imo

[prime plinth]

[novel harbor]

just don’t feel comfortable without salah

[acoustic edge]

yeah preach

[novel harbor]

but ye i dont think u can make anything that’s actually better than this

[waxen river]

So we’re blind

[wanton whale]

waiy

bro im so stupid

[prime plinth]

Chaos

[acoustic edge]

probably a case for sanchez -> sels and commit to fh4 wc7 but

[wanton whale]

what are you talking about 😔

[waxen river]

Thoughts on something like this? Do u reckon it’s better than the 451 I had above

[marsh palm]

nah this is just too heavy up top

i couldn’t work a haaland + watkins team i liked my 3-5-2 was only him and jsl
a 7.5 could tho

[novel harbor]

ye i agree

triocta has reached peak with haaland drafts imo

[acoustic edge]

really does depend on how much you like porro 😭😭

[marsh palm]

legit same team lolll

i was persuaded to hop on the porro train so neco snd lacroix became porro and andersen for me

[novel harbor]

doesn’t even rly matter

[trail forum]

ok thats basically the same as my team so i cant hate

but no watkins smh

[novel harbor]

can just get him out for munoz

if need be

[acoustic edge]

no exactly

[marsh palm]

*which became this

[acoustic edge]

but salah / mateta / romero vs haaland / gakpo / porro

i won’t be on haaland but

[marsh palm]

it’s the best it gets for him

i was contemplating salah 3-5-2 but 4-5-1 worked well

think it was because of triple forest in 6 and then triple palace in 4

[waxen river]

Rem i think me and u have like the same team

[marsh palm]

will definitely tweak solio just to see what i like more tho especially since i’m in nothing competitive

[waxen river]

What’s so funny Tim

[marsh palm]

yeah we do it’s just i have virgil and esteve instead of milenkovic and andersen

[trail forum]

never take a tim reaction to heart

that should be in the rules

[marsh palm]

i’d rather go munoz if ure gonna have andersen

[trail forum]

we thought cbit would increase the viable player pool but it really didnt

just moved it to cbit defenders instead of attacking + cs potential

now we have tarko and murillo

instead of frimpong and ait nouri

[marsh palm]

i had this too lol

this is still viable if solanke is fit but otherwise as a chelsea fan i wouldn’t play palace vs us

gw4 is shaky there tho

[novel harbor]

nono dw there will 100% be 4.5 cbit warriors, we just can’t predict them yet

and we will be moving to them once they’re established

[trail forum]

yeah true

steve

my guy

4.0 cbit warrior

i will be there

[marsh palm]

gw2 hero

im also high on jp

[trail forum]

oh really

[marsh palm]

felt good when he had his cwc run after how our fan base talked about him

everything plays into our 9

[trail forum]

yeah he may not have the stats backing but starting 9 for top 4 team @ 7.5 mil

the xfun is there

[marsh palm]

😂 i mean besides the minutes risk

[slim bane]

How tf are people comfortable with taking porro

[waxen river]

If delap gets into a car crash or something jp will feed generation

[slim bane]

sure he has more set pieces

But its spurs

😭

[marsh palm]

not having pens hurts but im saying everything from crosses to passes inside the box will go towards him

[trail forum]

moves to munoz easy

[marsh palm]

its him and enzo im looking at

[trail forum]

and the clankers love it

[slim bane]

Do the Forest players not?

GW4 easy switch

[marsh palm]

cucu im not high on fpl wise

same with any of our wingers

estevao when he starts sure but not gittens and neto especially with enzo taking up his space and cucu inverting

[trail forum]

you'll all be rushing money out of your shitty 5.5 tarkos in a few weeks anyway

[marsh palm]

forces them to cut in and take shots or play the pass before the assist

its like a triangle of jp enzo and palmer that everything will be directed to, offence will flow thru the sides with the objective being to get it to one of those 3

unless the wingers/fullbacks have a shot to take

[hallow anchor]

I think people are sleeping on fullbacks still

Guys like RAN and Frimpong at 6m is insanely cheap

Considering similar guys used to be 7-8m

[slim bane]

To gab

[slim bane]

They keep fewer CS now

[hallow anchor]

Trent and Gvard still hauled ass

[wanton whale]

not when every player is expensive

[hallow anchor]

My argument for going without Salah and haaland

[wanton whale]

valid

[hallow anchor]

Pay 1.5m to go from wan bissaka to RAN/Frimpong or 5-6m to go from Wirtz/Gyokeres to Salah/Haaland

[trail forum]

yeah im just to scared of gw1 cap salah

if hes a bit shit its easy to get rid

but if he braces there is 0 way to get him

and just cba starting from 5mil overall

[hallow anchor]

He's 50%+ owned, can't go up all that much in price

Haaland hauled ass at the start last year and didn't go up much

[trail forum]

its not about the price

[hallow anchor]

I'm away on Friday so will safely ignore

[trail forum]

its moving around the other guys

taking 2/3 transfers to get in salah that everyone has

while missing out on the people you actually want

[hallow anchor]

No point getting him in after GW1 for Newcastle and arsenal

If he braces or whatever you should make up at least some of the points by having a better 10 other players

[trail forum]

also forwards get so little points these days, so not really too much vaue in the extra money being spent on forwards tbh

[oak furnace]

I'm considering going down to fullkrug or jsl

[hallow anchor]

Famous last words but I'm really not that worried about Salah popping off like last year

Especially if they get isak

[trail forum]

and then if so itll still be better to WC early with all the information on other teams and potential options

[oak furnace]

If szobo actually gets pens then im worried about owning mo

[trail forum]

?

hes not getting pens lil bro

😭

[hallow anchor]

Mo being on pens is a bonus for non owners

[oak furnace]

once we get isak I'll probably go with isak wirtz frimpong vvd/kerkez

Idk how long it'll take to integrate him

need to get 4 pool tho

I'm hoping we get him after gw3

I'm trying to decide between pedro and 4.5 def vs fullkrug and 6.0 def

[cerulean cape]

Mo is a lock

This wins

[hollow ermine]

Sure…

[slim bane]

This is a top 10k team

Technically 20k last season but still

[quick dawn]

pretty similar to mine

yeah its almost identical i just have frimpong over sarr

[humble bane]

fpl still broken

app is fine but site doesnt work at all 😭 cant log in

[wanton whale]

Mine is fine

[humble bane]

even the site?

[wanton whale]

Yeah I don’t use the app

[humble bane]

wth

i tried 3 browsers and none will let me log in

ig i'll just use app

[wanton whale]

I’m locking my team in 1 hour before deadline

There’s gonna be so many issues

Site will defo crash

[humble bane]

FPL challenge doesnt work on app 💀

[waxen river]

Question for the ages

Bruno or Watkins

[latent depot]

GW1-6 IMO Kelleher 10+3+3+2+2+2 = 22 vs Sanchez 7+6+3+2+2+1 = 21

[acoustic edge]

banking on a 10 pter fair enough

[latent depot]

Flekken averaged over 4 saves per game. If Brentford keep a clean sheet, Kelleher prob had a blinder with 3+ saves

Think they randomly keep 1 clean sheet in the first 6

[novel harbor]

[pale tiger]

Maybe its sels time?

[latent depot]

All GKs suck, the money is better invested elsewhere

[oak furnace]

Is kelleher 100% fit?

[latent depot]

[oak furnace]

i wanna go kelleher dubravka but i don't think i can

[latent depot]

Dubravka hasn't had a preseason cos of a minor shoulder issue. Wouldn't be surprised if he only makes his debut after IB1

[hollow ermine]

[latent depot]

Don't understand the Froge tbh. Kelleher is prob getting 6+ save points in GW1-6

[cerulean cape]

I love pras' explanation of DC

Also he likes wood

All the bias justification I need

[hollow ermine]

I listened to fpl wire pod

Sounded like they were borderline arguing all the time

[twin ice]

4.5 GK clears almost every season and still want 5.0 GKs, amazing

[novel harbor]

isn’t it just the normal explanation lol

which vid

[cerulean cape]

Add dc points so a teams chances to clean

[novel harbor]

“so” meant to be “to”?

[oak furnace]

Is going Kelleher and bart or Petrovic dumb?

[latent depot]

They're all bad

Kelleher prob least bad

[cerulean cape]

I like bart

More than kelleher

[broken patio]

Idk about that

[latent depot]

Every GK is bad

[hollow ermine]

Idk bout that

[broken patio]

Kelleher and petrovic I like because they're gonna make a fuck ton of saves

So if they do ever clean it's a 12 pointer

And that's all you need, just one of those over like 6 weeks and you're fine

[latent depot]

Yeah 1 Kelleher 10 pointer and he's worth

[broken patio]

Bart isn't gonna make any saves or keep any cleans

[latent depot]

Sanchez with 2 cleans prob matches Kelleher with 1 clean GW1-6

[novel harbor]

probably doesnt lol

i think thats cope

[twin ice]

when has a Brighton keeper ever done well

[latent depot]

Might get Bruno

I have the 0.5

Bruno/Vicario then WC8

[quick dawn]

i could get bruno but it requires downgrading sanchez milenkovic and frimpong

tbh i worry neco will be subbed if they sign a new lb and that will be bad for cbit

[oak furnace]

I think i might just end up with 4.5 4.5 and get dubravka on a wildcard if he's starting by then

or i just stop this bb2 dream

and go Kelleher dubravka

we have 0 confirmation on whether Kelleher will play gw1 tho

Kelleher dubravka could be a donut goalie line in gw1

[cedar hull]

You're really unnecessarily forcing bb2

[novel harbor]

i havent once even considered early bb

unnecessary stress

[zealous forum]

When Duffy & Dunk were all the rage I'm pretty sure Mat Ryan was very good value.

[oak furnace]

Yeh I'm gonna change off it

Too much uncertainty

Kelleher valdi is where it's at

[stone perch]

Reinjders and Cherki seem like crazy value

The former is the perfect backup for Kudus and Ndiaye should one of them flop

Is the meta all about ignoring Haaland and Saka?

[oak furnace]

I worry about minutes for all city picks

this is what I've ended up with now

that second forward spot is killing me tho

i don't really like any of the options there

ekitike, Bowen, jp, solanke, Mateta

I wish isak wasn't held hostage by Newcastle otherwise he'd be there

[shrewd dust]

evanilson is up there for me

[oak furnace]

I mean yeh there's definitely a chance we concede to him

where would i spend that extra money on tho?

[shrewd dust]

probably upgrading kdh unless you’re completely sold on him

[oak furnace]

true

im not i just don't see any amazing alternatives

[shrewd dust]

almost everyone below rogers feels way too punty

i’m on reijnders atm

[oak furnace]

I'm better off just upgrading vdv and going 4atb

i had reijnders for ages

but now I've got him up to rogers

Rogers better be fit

[shrewd dust]

i wish i could have rogers but i don’t mind leaving him out for now when watkins is there

[cerulean cape]

I thought you made your team Monday no?

[shrewd dust]

but if he doesn’t play gw1 then at least you’ll get a decent defender from the bench

[oak furnace]

i have both

[oak furnace]

Monday to Wednesday is ages

but yeh my first team i made had him

[hollow ermine]

All our drafts are useless before pressers anyway

[oak furnace]

i might end up sheeping and going jp

[cerulean cape]

What pressers do we need

Rogers and solanke?

[oak furnace]

nothing wrong with a bit of sheep to start the season

Solanke playing Supercup tonight yeh?

see what fake Ange has to say about him

[hollow ermine]

Spurs
Villa
Brentford
Palace

Average player isn’t on triple forest mind you

[shrewd dust]

burnley for the dubravka believers

[oak furnace]

I'm pretty sure there's some pressers after the deadline

[cerulean cape]

So you named 2 of the teams i named lol

[hollow ermine]

Yes?

[quick dawn]

my team shouldnt be affected by pressers rn

[cerulean cape]

Wild you think triple forest is bad also

[oak furnace]

i reckon wissa will end up at Newcastle and isak will end up and Liverpool

[cerulean cape]

The average team owns 2 forest players? So 3 is bad?

[oak furnace]

idk how long it will take

[hollow ermine]

I don’t

?

[cerulean cape]

Last day/week

So gw4

Wont be fit tho

[hollow ermine]

Bruh what high ground are you trying to take here

[cerulean cape]

Unless he starts for sweden

[oak furnace]

So basically i need to wildcard gw4 or i can't have quad Liverpool

unless i use transfers

[cerulean cape]

Why

[oak furnace]

I've always wanted to have quad Liverpool

and for once there's a good chance to do it

[cerulean cape]

You can have 5 pool

Buy guehi too

[oak furnace]

Id have to get them all now

isak won't play the first 3 weeks

probs too much of a loss long term

[cerulean cape]

Youre benching a 10.5m option

[oak furnace]

would be sick for winning weekly down the line tho

[cerulean cape]

10.3m by gw4

Still 20% own3d

[oak furnace]

Liverpool dgw or against a relegation team

[twin ice]

just wildcard later

[oak furnace]

yeh I'll just get him when he transfers and gets into form

Wirtz Isak frimpong vvd

Liverpool quadruple

just have to nail the surrounding picks

actually can do a 451 and get mo

Who needs haaland or arsenal

[cerulean cape]

Idk why you're going with isak

Wasting time playing 10 men for 3.5 gws

[humble bane]

This a very correct team tbf but get Watkins at the start

I can see Isak taking a while, he may not even play a game until after the international break

[oak furnace]

I'm talking about what I'll do when isak comes to Liverpool

to see what i do with my starting team

i can easily get to this team in like 2-3 transfers

it all depends on when isak transfers whether i can get 4 pool

[humble bane]

Fairs I've gone for a safe team where I probably wont need to make transfers in gw1-2, for the sole purpose of saving 2 FTs for Isak

[oak furnace]

yeh that's probably a good idea

I'm hoping he signs around deadline day then he'll be ready to play gw4 and i can transfer him in and run quad pool until my wildcard

[novel harbor]

why is odobert in predicted lineup’s tonight.. i was gonna get brennan as a differential

[latent depot]

Brentford presser will be after deadline tho, right? Kelleher owners need to sweat some training pics

[cerulean cape]

Ffscout had news on kelleher

Dubravka also training individually with the other 2 signings

[latent depot]

What news on Kelleher?

[cerulean cape]

Precaution blah blah blah

[latent depot]

Can't believe the 2 GKs that I want are both yellow flagged

[cerulean cape]

Bart time

[latent depot]

That's some bullshit

[cerulean cape]

Bart is hitting 8,6,2,fh,3,3

[latent depot]

I looked at Brentford's clean sheets last season, they were mostly against relegation attacks same as Sanchez then

[cerulean cape]

Forest attack

[latent depot]

Yeah, Forest and Sunderland copium

But Kelleher potentially out for Forest is annoying af

[stone perch]

I feel like owning a Watkins Pedro Guiu front 3

Going Bowen from Watkins

[stone perch]

I am missing something with Tarkowski

5.5 for an Everton defender is wild

[supple steeple]

I am a bit worried now tbh

with the signing of Grealish

[cerulean cape]

He could score 20 goals and you will not sign him for 50m

[supple steeple]

if he plays as the 10 he's not gonna offer the same amount of pressing and defensive work

[cerulean cape]

Most pointless loan to buy option

[supple steeple]

as Doucs did

[cerulean cape]

He'll play lm surely

[supple steeple]

well then its Ndiaye 10

and that left side with Grealish and Aznou could be very shaky

defensively, that is

so I expect less CS

[silent jasper]

mind asking how will this affect KDH as a pick? Not saying he should be good as my bench player but would want to see if he can play higher up or more defensive

[supple steeple]

KDH will play 8

box to box

and idk if Grealish gets set pieces

which was one of the upsides of KDH

[silent jasper]

hmm ok, probably if he can't get att returns maybe he can farm CBIT as 5M mid
I think its alright yeah as Everton could be more defensive under Moyes?

I don't see them leaking as many goals as they used to under Dyche

[supple steeple]

I think he's an ok pick still, yeah

will prob get some defcons, he's got a crazy engine and runs all game

[silent jasper]

Thanks
just hope that he is nailed in all games

he was so good at Leicester

[supple steeple]

he should be

with the current squad

he is just better than Garner

[silent jasper]

to be honest I thought Everton losing Doucoure might be a big hit, I think this is a huge addition

[supple steeple]

same, we were linked to him before Chelsea bought him

I really wanted him then

criminally underrated

[silent jasper]

12g14a in Leicester's championship winning season
He is someone to look at this season

[stone perch]

Heck yeah, I hope he comes off good

I wonder what the hype behind Kudus is, otherwise, he's gone for Reinjders to finance Watkins

[sterile tree]

just 5 cs in 19 under moyes with away cs vs brighton and newcastle that you would not expect again

[supple steeple]

yeah, we kept less CS under Moyes

however

our xGA was lower under Moyes

so who knows

[trail forum]

didnt he run a crazy like 16 min 5k back in covid

[silent jasper]

[trail forum]

idk why i recall him doing that

[supple steeple]

lmao no clue

Work Rate: KDH covered 1km more than any other Leicester player per game, running between his box, where he defended, to the opposition box, where he pressed.

[trail forum]

albrighton said on ben fosters podcast kdh was doing 17min 5ks

[pale tiger]

wtf

[sterile tree]

Mcgrrr mudded

[pale tiger]

tark

[supple steeple]

nah fuck off

we are relegated

[hallow anchor]

who's his back up?

[supple steeple]

its Michael fucking Keane

[hallow anchor]

oof

[supple steeple]

unless we sign a rb

[sterile tree]

obrien right

[hallow anchor]

wheeling out Michael Keane like it's 2008

[supple steeple]

then O'Brien will play there

well it could be Patterson rb and O'Brien CB

but Patterson is awful aswell

[hallow anchor]

With chaos comes opportunity

[novel harbor]

welp

[pale tiger]

we keeping tarkowski or what now 😭

[hollow ermine]

Atp

Yeah

[hallow anchor]

wtf Keane is only 32

[hollow ermine]

I cba

[trail forum]

please keep i need to gain rank on someone

[marsh palm]

where is the he's cooking

[supple steeple]

worst CB in the league

[marsh palm]

nvm we're cooked

[novel harbor]

i get to bring out my secret weapon now

tark out

!

[marsh palm]

is this with tweaked projections

[pale tiger]

porro for tark?

[marsh palm]

#fraud

[novel harbor]

ya

[hallow anchor]

Scrap the whole thing, dont even need to make a team if you know you're getting 780.1 points

[novel harbor]

real

[marsh palm]

#770withnotweaks

[stone perch]

Why though

[wanton whale]

ffs tark is mudded

[novel harbor]

mines still 775 with no tweaks

[marsh palm]

k nvm

[novel harbor]

think im going back on reijnders

[hollow ermine]

Highest out of my current projections is 736 or something, but it’s only up to gw8

[hollow ermine]

Bruh how

[trail forum]

nothing says optimum like planning to buy sell and rebuy mateta in the space of 7 weeks

you algo planner lads need help bad

[hollow ermine]

You gotta have all the model favourite picks

[marsh palm]

thats super good 😭

[novel harbor]

no i have all my favourite picks

[hollow ermine]

Porro and forest double up

[novel harbor]

im the model

[hollow ermine]

Ok g

[marsh palm]

idk what im doing in gw10 but other than that i like what im doing

not just looking at what algo estimates

[hollow ermine]

I’m looking at 780 here lol

[marsh palm]

734 in 8 game weeks

[trail forum]

all that for my team with no transfers to have 10 less points 😭

[novel harbor]

with my tweaks

[trail forum]

and no chips

[quick dawn]

ok porro in maybe

[marsh palm]

im ass

[trail forum]

fr

[marsh palm]

but u have no upside tho 🤓

[trail forum]

my upside is having 10 transfers WC and BB

😭

[novel harbor]

this is pretty normal

ngl lol

[wanton whale]

Vamos

Rogers in training

[pale tiger]

lets fucking go

[novel harbor]

oh we're so back

[trail forum]

ohhhhh

[marsh palm]

i must be doing something wrong mines is like 733 without anything

[marsh palm]

we're back

[wanton whale]

we are indeed

[marsh palm]

thread template is alive

[pale tiger]

so back

[hollow ermine]

No branth isn’t gonna stop Tark from getting defcon, which is why we’re owning really

But it does affect xCS, which is a risk we’re willing to take now if 3/4 defenders are bringing one clean sheet anyway

[hollow ermine]

We back

[novel harbor]

for the first time since learning about cbit im actually off tark

[hollow ermine]

Fuck off fullkrug

Bro wanted to bait me into fulkrugg wirtz

Are you mad

[novel harbor]

the first time branth was injured i had hope he'd be back and he came back but this time

[hollow ermine]

Porto victim

[stone perch]

I don't know lad, owning a CB purely for 1-2 pointers without good odds of CS sounds like a purely theoritical plan

[silent jasper]

Tarkowski

[hollow ermine]

It is

[wanton whale]

you hyped up fullkrug 💀

[hollow ermine]

[marsh palm]

salah 3-5-2 is back

[hollow ermine]

Yes cause writz was rogers alternative

And needed fulkrugg

[humble bane]

branthwaite gone? :(

[hollow ermine]

Bowen + rogers is obviously clear of wirtz fulkrugg

[novel harbor]

ok ye im set on my team

[hollow ermine]

Tark out means porro or vdv

Or….

Tark to Williams

Ayari

To

Arias

[quick dawn]

ayari to airas 😭

[hollow ermine]

Arias gang we alliiiiivveeeeee

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-8593213374087197675

[novel harbor]

watkins jsl draft is so back prepare for bakar, ben, letstalkfpl update

[marsh palm]

#352isback

[quick dawn]

im considering it

[lone thorn]

ffs, everyone moving off everton def

[humble bane]

Hmm I might kill off Tark and get rotating 4.5s

[marsh palm]

aw man i was too late

[quick dawn]

is this a bot team

cuz this is very similar to my draft rn

[marsh palm]

no i made it

[quick dawn]

ah

[marsh palm]

so im a bot

k

[humble bane]

strand larsen una get frimpong instead

[marsh palm]

its easy to make if rogers is healthy here

[novel harbor]

it will be review's recommended in like 16 hrs tho

myb less

actually no i forgot review doesnt rate rogers

[humble bane]

Anyway I'm glad I have my Porro eye test today. Let's see if he can kick Tark out my team

[hollow ermine]

No wonder

[novel harbor]

will probs end up like 4th recommended

[quick dawn]

i think i lean wirtz over bruno

[hollow ermine]

People own Bruno

[marsh palm]

i have no reason to own wirtz if im going with jsl

[humble bane]

Pretty confident Wirtz will outscore Bruno pts

[marsh palm]

bruno vs wirtz is subjective to fit and since i have jsl even if i turn bruno into wirtz its an unnecessary .5 upgrade

[novel harbor]

well he wont

[marsh palm]

regardless with defcon i doubt it

[novel harbor]

[humble bane]

long term he will especially if Isak joins

[novel harbor]

nop

[humble bane]

yes

[novel harbor]

no

[humble bane]

it's Uni7ed

[novel harbor]

doesnt rly matter

this is fpl

[marsh palm]

now im going to team build (just find old 3-5-2 receipts and copy)

[humble bane]

Dont think Tesco is scoring as much as Isak. Dont think ᗰbeumo is scoring as much as Salah.

Wonder who will be assisting 🤔

[quick dawn]

has everyone gone off evanilson

[broken patio]

Mateta, evanilson, Pedro I really like

[quick dawn]

ok last draft then i go have dinner

[novel harbor]

ye neither do i

not even close actually :)

doesnt change the fact that bruno will probs outscore wirtz

[thin jasper]

is everyone off tarkowski now

[quick dawn]

i mean

[broken patio]

Surely not

[quick dawn]

he could still score well

but i lean porro

[marsh palm]

oh i guess this is a route

[pale tiger]

pedro porno time?

[thin jasper]

defcon hasn’t changed and the fixtures are still alright

[novel harbor]

i am 🖐️

[marsh palm]

not enough of floor defenders tho especially without tark

[humble bane]

I will give u 500 robux if ur right

[novel harbor]

hmm

deal

[stone perch]

Any Chelsea defenders worth getting

I'm eyeing a Sels -> Sanchez

[broken patio]

I was already getting cold feet about tark with the attacking signings of KDH and grealish

With branthwaite out too I'm not going near tark

[novel harbor]

[broken patio]

FML big at the back is dying

[novel harbor]

how come

[stone perch]

Tark was never a good option to begin with

[humble bane]

Porro eye test is my last hope otherwise byeee

[stone perch]

5.5 for an Everton defender is a trap

[broken patio]

Objectively incorrect

[humble bane]

might have to 3 atb

[stone perch]

It's not hindsight

[stone perch]

Very arguable

I don't mind being wrong

I just never fancied him

[novel harbor]

based off ehat

[broken patio]

I mean total points last season

[novel harbor]

what

lol

[broken patio]

The guy hitting DC points in like 65% of games too

[stone perch]

WIth a much more competitive price, yes

Things have changed, that's it