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[cedar hull]

id never do that to you beef

[thin jasper]

i’d do it to you classic

[cedar hull]

you flirt

[broken patio]

I mean I could just join back right?

Or does it like, ban you

[thin jasper]

yeah it effectively does nothing

[cedar hull]

fuck sake now this thread is above beefs

[broken patio]

:(

If Rogers is fit, do you think he's better than JP?

[hollow ermine]

Chill

We can cook here

[broken patio]

Basically have a 7.5m slot that can be a mid or a fwd and idk how to fill it

[slim bane]

mateta

BOOM

[broken patio]

(already have mateta and gakpo)

[slim bane]

cant hurt having one more

[broken patio]

2 matetas

[slim bane]

ffs

[lone thorn]

Mateta > JP?

[violet temple]

jp minutes are a bit shit

Wood looks good

[lone thorn]

this 7.5 fwd spot is doing my head in

[broken patio]

Mateta clear now he has pens imo

[stone perch]

I'd love a Mateta - JP - Bowen front

Can't afford it

[thin jasper]

from now to gw1 we just gon be switching between mateta jp bowen wood til we land on wissa

[broken patio]

Well I've got mateta
And I need another 7.5

It's my last slot to fill

[quick dawn]

theres not another good one

[humble bane]

ive dropped triple liverpool 💔

[violet temple]

surely no1s on triple Liverpool mids anymore yeah?

[broken patio]

I like Pedro and evanilson, Rogers too (can move to 451)

[quick dawn]

why not

well i have ekitike

[violet temple]

That game can't have filled u with confidence to have triple Liverpool midfielders

[lone thorn]

i've literally went from Bowen, Solanke, Wood, Evanilson, JP + now prob Mateta

[broken patio]

Cook

[stone perch]

Bad squad arguably

[broken patio]

I do really like sarr

[quick dawn]

didnt watch it ez

[humble bane]

fairs this a lowk a cute team

[hollow ermine]

Saying cool like you won’t own Salah gw1

Stop this nonsense

[violet temple]

No wonder ur still on triple pool mids I'm considering dropping salah lol 😂

[stone perch]

Too many weak bench options, Sarr is there, Haaland eats too much budget and the defence is bland

[broken patio]

I'm allowed to support others cooking

[wanton whale]

.

[hollow ermine]

I’ll probably just stay on double pool

[hollow ermine]

Salah is trash in preseason on a ref

Goon

[broken patio]

Salah was awful last preseason too

[wanton whale]

Salah always does shit in preseason then bags gw1

[violet temple]

oh it's a troll draft

[quick dawn]

no

[hollow ermine]

I’m very much considering staying on this

[violet temple]

sorry to hear that

It's okay can always use ur wildcard

[broken patio]

Ayariiiiiii

I wish I had ayari over king here

[quick dawn]

you have triple palace because they drew with liverpool

[broken patio]

Could drop Murillo to Neco to get ayari

[thin jasper]

wait this draft is so satisfying

[violet temple]

I actually have one palace who I'm not gonna start most weeks

[supple steeple]

wym weak bench options, I have 0.5m more in there than most

[violet temple]

Still debatin mateta

Don't know if I can afford

[supple steeple]

and the defence is literally meta

[thin jasper]

make your fpl drafts based on how satisfying it looks

[humble bane]

idk man chels and forest as first two GWs? not convinced on palace attack

[wanton whale]

join us

[violet temple]

That's what they said for triple pool attack and triple nfo defence g

[stone perch]

Front 3 is very nice, but I'm still on the fence for Haaland

[wanton whale]

Mateta is actually class tho

[violet temple]

Yeah can't deny that just fixtures aren't the best

[supple steeple]

Haaland is a big risk, yeah

[stone perch]

I get the feeling getting a decent forward with Salah is much easier than getting a decent midfielder with Haaland

[broken patio]

They're not bad

[violet temple]

never said they were tbf just checking out my options

[wanton whale]

not amazing first 3 but still potential there and gw4-5 is great

[violet temple]

can always bring in gw4 then

maximizing points is what matters at the end of the day

[broken patio]

Chelsea gw1 I quite rate for palace tbh, they've had no preseason, palace looked really good today, defo Banana skin game for Chelsea
Forest are a great defence yeah, will be a tight game
Villa Def sucks
Then 2 great fix
Then Liverpool who they just beat today

[wanton whale]

not many better at that price

[violet temple]

Gonna have to use all ur transfers by afcon anyways and probably a wild card too

[quick dawn]

i’ll see you when palace are 14th

[violet temple]

don't know still gotta decide the second striker

[wanton whale]

league position gets you fpl points?

[supple steeple]

so you prefer this basically?

[violet temple]

same ppl that owned cunha when wolves finished what 17th?

[wanton whale]

JP ownership is terrifying me

[broken patio]

I think we all expect palace to fall off a bit with some key injuries later in the season (they've got a super thin squad and have conference to deal with)
But rn they look great

[supple steeple]

cause this is just KDH->Salah and Haaland -> Guiu

[violet temple]

get the player that'll get the most points in ur opinion

[cedar hull]

Probably due to mins but close yeah

[stone perch]

Somehow, yes. A bit more balanced than your 4-3-3

[wanton whale]

i think Jp will do well as well, looks class

[stone perch]

It's basically KDH -> Guiu swap

[broken patio]

Join me

[supple steeple]

yeah

[violet temple]

I'm set on watkins for sure I think

Gonna need him

[wanton whale]

watkins, jp mateta 🔥

[stone perch]

Again, not a big fan of the defence and I think you're missing better options such as JP who could make you save some cash to apply elsewhere

[broken patio]

I have the cheapest bench possible.
Murillo + 4.5 mid
Vs
Neco + 5.0 mid
Thoughts?

[violet temple]

any nailed 4.5m mid?

[stone perch]

And Kudus/Ndiaye > Sarr

Honestly speaking

[broken patio]

Nope

[supple steeple]

aha, I see

[stone perch]

I just started asset shopping, so I could be chatting shit

But I know a trap when I see one

[violet temple]

So sad

[supple steeple]

yeah, I turned off my brain the moment you mentioned JP

[stone perch]

How come

[broken patio]

He's looked soooo good for Chelsea though

[stone perch]

Oh yeah, I remember his dry spell at Brighton

But he's banging it at Chelsea

It can't be ignored

[broken patio]

What the stats don't tell you is that he's an unbelievably good footballer - stats/goalscoring aside

[stone perch]

Scoring againt the European Champions with a bloody panenka-esque shot

[broken patio]

And Chelsea seems to have unlocked him so far

[stone perch]

Exactly

Form wise, ignoring him is suicide

[humble bane]

so glad villa are playing today. one final eye test

yh just got JP in too

watkins/rogers eye test today. the worst one of them gets dropped for ekitike/gyok/gakpo

[barren geyser]

im hoping rogers returns, if watkins performs bad then im going ekitike but heres me right now

[latent depot]

looking at no Salah no Halaand BB2

[hollow ermine]

YOGO

[barren geyser]

oh yeah kelleher is injured

[hollow ermine]

This is factually a good squad

[latent depot]

wait, actually injured? not just a knock?

[hollow ermine]

Knock

[barren geyser]

thats what i mean

apologies

[humble bane]

Not gonna be tricked into dropping Kelleher

if we had him today we'd have won community shield I'm js

penalty saving machine

[latent depot]

did Kelleher play in the match behind closed doors?

[barren geyser]

the most recent one no

[humble bane]

villa release ur lineup pls

[broken patio]

No Rogers in squad

[latent depot]

that was expected

[barren geyser]

watkins save us

[cerulean cape]

How did gakpo play

[latent depot]

heard he was mediocre

[cedar hull]

Murillo clears

[cerulean cape]

He got 90 tho

That's positive

[latent depot]

no real backup until Isak

[broken patio]

Yeah

[latent depot]

literally racking up clearances

[violet temple]

Terrible

[supple steeple]

he was less invisible than Salah

barely

[cerulean cape]

Water is wet

[latent depot]

Salah also no longer visible in my squad

somehow still 0.5 off what I want

[broken patio]

Pretty uninvolved, but was always there at the back post. Had 1 brilliant chance which hendo pulled out an amazing save to deny, it was offside though but barely

[cedar hull]

He's the best defender gw1 for me, bonus monster, DC monster, CS monster, if he had consistent goal threat he'd be a season keeper

[latent depot]

I'm looking at BB2 with triple Burnley 4.0s and Josh King

[cedar hull]

Genuinely or just for drafts sake

[latent depot]

exploring for now

but can't say that I won't commit to it

Ekitike 15G on 23xG is wild

[cedar hull]

Would have been wirtz assist fwiw

[broken patio]

Yup

[cedar hull]

It's been explained, a lot of context to that

Die hard tacticos have explained it at least

[broken patio]

Tbh I'm quite glad that Rogers is out, it makes fpl more interesting

[cedar hull]

Basically he had all the responsibility to create, shoot, carry for frankfurt

Rogers out means no Watkins for me

[broken patio]

Yep

[cedar hull]

He will still return a bit but villa will just be worse offensively

[broken patio]

Hard to justify paying 1.5m more for a guy with very similar stats to mateta and doesn't have pens

[wanton whale]

surely rogers is only out for gw1?

ig we dont know yet

[latent depot]

Newcastle look trash, Villa going to destroy them with/without Rogers

[wanton whale]

fr one week of no rogers wouldnt put me off

[latent depot]

Emery said days ago that Rogers wouldn't feature this weekend

[cedar hull]

Basically high volume of low xg shots, take these away and he's a decent finisher

[latent depot]

it's a minor ankle strain

[cedar hull]

Villa don't look that good either though

Will see how they play today

[latent depot]

I guess Gyokeres to Watkins GW3 is obv

[wanton whale]

😮‍💨

[broken patio]

Or keep gyokeres gw3 if Liverpool defend like they did today

[supple steeple]

tryhard glasses

[broken patio]

Why do they look like swimmers?

[prime plinth]

That no salah draft looks good again

[latent depot]

yeah NGL Arsenal fixtures are completely fine from attacking POV

[wanton whale]

the medals ig

[supple steeple]

@latent depot roast me

[broken patio]

Medals, glasses (googles), hoodies, bright coloured plain background

Idk why but it's giving olympic swimming vibes

[latent depot]

I don't hate it, I can't talk, I'm exploring no Salah no Haaland BB2 right now

[wanton whale]

Mateta needs to regrow that beard man

[supple steeple]

oh dear

[cerulean cape]

You said this was ridiculous 2 days ago to me

[broken patio]

Huge 4 point bb

[latent depot]

it's more serendipitous with no Salah freeing up funds that allow for 4.0 defenders rather than stacking CBIT farmers

[cerulean cape]

I'm down to 5 drafts/variations

[latent depot]

you know what to do, create 5 profiles

dunno how you follow Forest's preseason and still pick Wood

[cerulean cape]

Cos they get relegated

If they dont score in these 6 games

[violet temple]

Rogers and wood g

[latent depot]

na, there are too many terrible teams, like truly atrocious teams for Nuno's Forest to get relegated

[cerulean cape]

Having both kills my def

[latent depot]

any team with Scott Parker is going down

[cerulean cape]

I'm favouring 2

[violet temple]

532 😭

[cerulean cape]

3 and 4 are ok also

[latent depot]

you know that sooner or later Nuno is getting a 1-0 vs a big team, you just dunno when

remember when he did exactly that with Spurs against City

[cerulean cape]

Team 3 is juiced

Also not ruling out vicario as gk

[latent depot]

to be clear, having a 14+ asset means spending budget on defence because the budget attackers are underwhelming. that's why I didn't like 4.0/4.0/4.5 bench. without a 14+ asset, the rest of the squad is full of high priced shiny attackers

[prime plinth]

[latent depot]

why isn't Ekitike 8.0

[novel harbor]

no literally

[obtuse shoal]

Do you pay for fpl.team?

[novel harbor]

its so silly

[prime plinth]

Edge of the box dweller

[valid river]

Holy just woke up, what happened in the shield game

[novel harbor]

he'd be so perfect at 8mil im always -0.5 off what i want with him

[latent depot]

Salah tanked his share price

[cerulean cape]

Ffscout 1 month

[novel harbor]

100k ppl took salah out

[cerulean cape]

Pay2win mf

[valid river]

Never had him which is annoying but nice

[acoustic edge]

is haaland GOOGL

[prime plinth]

Salah looks cooked

Too wide

[valid river]

I am a genius then?

[quick dawn]

tbh these games shouldnt actually change your opinion

but on the other hand my draft looks sexy

[latent depot]

got his contract extension, chillin

[prime plinth]

Community shield and salah last 3 months+ is awful

[quick dawn]

if i pick salah he will suck, if i dont he will bang

[broken patio]

We said exactly the same thing last preseason

[quick dawn]

who can i convince on triple city triple liverpool attack

[cerulean cape]

Salah blanking in finals, water is wet

[prime plinth]

True

[prime plinth]

No season is the same

[quick dawn]

surely tripling up on 2 attacks cant go wrong

[prime plinth]

Pool mid fixtures. More 8.5-10s than usual

[latent depot]

would be ok if it was just one game? his price is priced for perfection. if he's not averaging >7ppm, he's bad value, especially considering all the compromises elsewhere to fit him in

[novel harbor]

watching ppl gradually move away from 4-5-1 is interesting me

its still clear

[latent depot]

his preseason has been a bit ehhhh

[prime plinth]

I'm scared but there's a opportunity

[cerulean cape]

Review still on this

[novel harbor]

3-5-2 actually

they're still recommending solanke the donuts

[prime plinth]

14.5m

[latent depot]

I'm erring towards no Salah, no Haaland tbh. they're both really overpriced. Salah is priced as if 280 is the expectation

[cerulean cape]

Is that the budget version

[novel harbor]

budget version of wat

[prime plinth]

Yep there's a real chance I do

[cerulean cape]

Free review

There's paid version

[novel harbor]

oh no

i have paid

[prime plinth]

If fixtures were better maybe. Fh4 or wc4 worst case

[latent depot]

Free review has Esteve the best GW2 defender for solid BB2 copium

[novel harbor]

they're on strand larsen + solanke

[prime plinth]

Fh4 seems good for bruno and trip forest

[novel harbor]

they have my exact midfield now finally

took them a few days

to realise

its the best

[latent depot]

what's your mid

[acoustic edge]

palmer being best cap enough weeks is tempting

[fleet oracle]

Fuck, a team with no salah no Haaland is so nice. You can basically do whatever you want

[quick dawn]

thats fine but tbh i dont have many uses for the money

[novel harbor]

but not a fan of them ignoring tarkowski

[quick dawn]

this was my midfield like 2 days ago

[prime plinth]

You get optimal position to pivot to whoever you want

Worst case. Blow it up with wc4

[latent depot]

I'm somehow 0.5 off what I want

[prime plinth]

Salah over first 3 shouldn't take the game away

[novel harbor]

they're also backing vicario 😭

[fleet oracle]

I have an extra 0.5m itb atm. I’ll lend it to you now, if you give me back 1m by gw7

[novel harbor]

vicario + dubravka

mhm actually they seem quite split betweenboth vicario and sanchez

[latent depot]

if only Kinsky

[novel harbor]

seems a toss up for them

[prime plinth]

If people don't captain salah in gw2 and 3. 14.5m for that?

Gw6 are you for sure capping

If I cover salah gw4 fh. I feel like it has some substance

[novel harbor]

perhaps

[prime plinth]

Idk we'll see. Salah will do well. If he does what he did he's obviously a game breaker. He's never been that(last season) good before though. Now he's 14
5

[valid river]

Haaland +3% ownership :(

[fleet oracle]

All liverpools play today came down the left wing. Idk if it was game plan or not, but it definitely was predominantly left wing

[prime plinth]

Liverpool team balance a issue you think?

Defensively

[quick dawn]

this draft is top 1k or bottom 5 million

[fleet oracle]

We’re essentially played a 4231 with 2 wing backs that want to overlap and invert. Without gravenberch, the balance is terrible

[supple steeple]

prob targeting Munoz over Mitchell

[prime plinth]

Palace always pulling me into wanting 1 attacker lol

I don't think i will to start

Sarr so cheap though

[valid river]

Adam Wharton assist btw

[novel harbor]

do we think porro is defo more likely to return g/a than munoz for first few gw's?

[fleet oracle]

Ekitike looked very promising, but only getting 70 odd mins is not what I like to see.

[novel harbor]

im rethinking porro vs munoz as my ceiling defender

[prime plinth]

How many recoveries

[lone thorn]

got both

[quick dawn]

i would be porro

[latent depot]

Errr, so I've landed on this BB2 draft

[prime plinth]

Munoz had 3 key passes

[fleet oracle]

Surely spurs def is significantly better this year with Trank instead of ange

[novel harbor]

bold

[prime plinth]

Cbit Munoz hit

Nvm. 9?

[novel harbor]

you'd think so buttt idk

[novel harbor]

both porro and munoz?

[fleet oracle]

Triple Burnley def vs Sunderland? Go big or go home

[prime plinth]

Wirtz looked good. Not sure he's unreal fpl value but he is a baller

[latent depot]

0 bench spend, definite upside, decent floor if both CBs get CBITs

[novel harbor]

burnley sunderland will be a draw icl

probs both games 0-0

[fleet oracle]

I suppose, last 2 games played in turf more between them in the championship finished 0-0

[latent depot]

it's Scott Parker tho, the later you leave it to play BB Dubravka, the more disillusioned and dishearted his team will be

[prime plinth]

Salah 1 shot in 90 minutes

No focal point

[fleet oracle]

Probably only had 4 or 5 touches all game

[prime plinth]

Maybe it was just a focus for the game

[fleet oracle]

I miss nunez

[latent depot]

Salah trying to recruit Guehi tbh, bro told him he'll join Liverpool if Palace win the Community Shield. leave on a high

[prime plinth]

26 touches 13/20 acc passes

12 possession lost

Horrible performance

[latent depot]

man, need to redo all my plans now

[fleet oracle]

Guehi spent almost all the second half lying down with cramp. Like every 5 mins he was on the grass

[prime plinth]

Spreading the funds is so much more exciting than salah bore fest

[fleet oracle]

wtf. 26 touches is far more than I’d have thought 26 touches and 0 chances created

[valid river]

Maybe

[prime plinth]

I just know the risks even if the first 3 aren't crazy fixtures

[valid river]

I drop one of the forest defenders and get anderson. But that sounds troll

[lone thorn]

yhh

[valid river]

Can everyone go back to owning Salah plz

[latent depot]

Mateta on pens is

[fleet oracle]

All of a sudden I’m interested in 5 or 6 forwards

[broken patio]

Only moved from 451 to 442, changed the Rogers-marmoush-whoever spot to mateta

[broken patio]

A reason why 451 might not be the best idea

Even if the forwards aren't clear rn, some will emerge

Flexibility to be able to move to them is key

[prime plinth]

Gyok to mateta or solanke gw3

[latent depot]

Gyok to Watkins?

[prime plinth]

Start both

[broken patio]

I don't understand the people who will shill gyokeres but shit on Pedro for his xmins

[supple steeple]

Gyokeres farmed goals vs teams equivalent to league one, JP didnt

[hollow ermine]

I came to goon

[elder cargo]

Do bear in mind that Eze took 2 penalties while Mateta was on the pitch last season. Mateta took 3 other penalties as well but yeah they just rotate them randomly it seems.

[wanton whale]

Mateta scored 2 today, eze missed his. I would only hope mateta has them for now

[elder cargo]

Eze missed 1 against Newcastle last season and then the next penalty against Forest he took it and scored

Mateta is definitely the more likely taker of the two

But it’s not a sure thing

[wanton whale]

yeah

[elder cargo]

Mateta is goated in general anyway

[fleet oracle]

Is reijnders first choice for city? (Obviously first choice for city is still subject to pep roulette)

[hollow ermine]

Surely you can’t have both haaland and salah

Have to pick one

[elder cargo]

Probably is yeah

I imagine he’ll be as nailed as a City pick can be

[fleet oracle]

When Rodri comes back in September, who do we think loses their place in the mid?

[valid river]

Doesn't matter now

[hollow ermine]

Yeah….

Am I sure I want this?

What are those games

Yeah….

[prime plinth]

Pedro isn't a main man striker being parked in the box with saka pulling strings

[broken patio]

His preseason would beg to differ

[prime plinth]

2 gw play

[prime plinth]

?

He literally was roaming the box

[hollow ermine]

I’m not buying bro for 2 fixtures

[orchid plank]

ideally you’d just want him for the first 2 and move off in gw3

[hollow ermine]

But you’d want him back in gw7

[valid river]

Let's all book in early transfers

What could go wrong

[prime plinth]

Wc8

[hollow ermine]

Why are we just booking wasted transfers then

[hollow ermine]

Yeah…

[prime plinth]

Because utd and leeds is high upside

[hollow ermine]

Anyway

Welcome back Bowen

[hollow ermine]

That I have to use 2ft’s and a wc for

[fleet oracle]

We all get 5 ft for afcon anyway

[hollow ermine]

We’re talking WC8 here

[prime plinth]

You don't have to use. It just fits that strategy

[elder cargo]

Joao Pedro: bench appearance, 60 mins, 67 mins, bench appearance, 60 mins. That’s his 5 games for Chelsea so far, wow.

[trail mica]

going into fpl with chip strategy and plans is insanely overrated

[elder cargo]

How unappealing despite scoring 5 goals in that period

[hollow ermine]

???

Do you know what game you’re playing

[prime plinth]

Pedro only 1 shot again

I'm not a believer

[orchid plank]

your on fh13 i assume?

[lone thorn]

he's bagging in all of those

[fleet oracle]

Yeah, but talking about booking in early transfers, plus wc8, plus 5ft in gw 14 I think? Like you don’t need to worry about ft this year nearly as much as in previous years

[prime plinth]

Fh4

If no salah

[hollow ermine]

Pick 1 (cup)

[orchid plank]

eh wouldn’t u want him for gw5 tho

[fleet oracle]

I’d avoid Chelsea def tbh

[prime plinth]

Everton aren't a good away game

[slim bane]

No rogers 🥀

[prime plinth]

I mean as in they are one of the better teams defensively away

Watkins vs Sunderland

[lone thorn]

Watkins mogs him

[prime plinth]

Gw2 3 6 7 I'm happy not to cap salah

[lone thorn]

i'm happy to go without Rogers if i've got Watkins tbh

[fleet oracle]

Am I missing something on Watkins? I haven’t even considered him for a second

[prime plinth]

14.5m in bad form

[hollow ermine]

I just don’t see the worth, why wc8 after gw7 first, secondly why do you own a play for 3 weeks, only to wc them back in 4 weeks and gonna get rid in gw13 anyway

[prime plinth]

Yes ik salah has turned up before and could should again. There's opportunity though

[valid river]

Y'all are very reactionary on Salah

[sterile tree]

his game 3 is easy

[hollow ermine]

I can’t bring myself to wc early honestly

Wc7 maybe

[fleet oracle]

I’m still undecided on my chip strategy tbh. I think I’m on fh6 wc13, but again, still undecided.

[hollow ermine]

Also I’m going vlad + duvbravka

No point

Petrovic and kelleher are not out scoring either

[cedar hull]

I don't know what to do anymore

Mcgrr with the late nomium bb2 team

[novel harbor]

ive been making drafts but i think ive known for a while which one is just the best of them all

[quick dawn]

its mine

[hollow ermine]

“Bb2”

God

[cedar hull]

Whoever that new forest signing is averages 15 cbit 90 fwiw

[hollow ermine]

Meh

[novel harbor]

its one of mine (obviously) but one of ur drafts has been one of the closest to it ive seen in here so far

[hollow ermine]

What’s done is done

[novel harbor]

wont say which one tho

[hollow ermine]

Don’t think I touch this again

[cedar hull]

[hollow ermine]

I’m at peace with myself and fpl gods now

2 4.0 gk’s though

Just gonna hope Burnley keep 29 clean sheets again

[pale tiger]

Watkins goal

[cedar hull]

It's Villarreal lads

[hollow ermine]

Run me my shit

[novel harbor]

5 pre season goals damn

[hollow ermine]

Rogers might not play

Getting worrisome

Anyway

Ayari goon

[novel harbor]

im rly gonna miss out on not owning him lmao

oh well

[cerulean cape]

Wonder worth having Rogers but have Rodon as 4.0m so start gw1

[latent depot]

xPenshare also Arsenal have 2 green fix GW1-2 let's be honest

[novel harbor]

fr but then they glaze xPenshare but dont own tielemans

[cedar hull]

Caveman going mainstream

[valid river]

Wonder who I should bench out of Reijnders and JSL gw1

JSL vs City or Reijnders vs Wolves

[surreal ocean]

are you fpl frasier ?!

anyway look at bruno man, I feel like he could be a set and forget

position be damned

[wanton whale]

Watkins scored again?

nice

[surreal ocean]

i haven't untangled the pool attackers

can someone decide for me

[humble bane]

wirtz essential imo. pick one of salah/haaland. and ur 3rd pool can be gakpo/frimpong

[cedar hull]

Essential

[humble bane]

best mid in the 6-9m price range

[cedar hull]

Doesn't mean he's essential

[humble bane]

fairs

[hollow ermine]

Getting clowned on for saying 5.5 def and fulkrugg vs 4.5 def and 7.5

[wanton whale]

yeah coz Fulkrugg is an awful pick

[hollow ermine]

Fuck off man saka prop

[hollow ermine]

Ping gw6

Pin this message

[humble bane]

yhh watkins essential

looks like my team is set

[hollow ermine]

Fulkrugg top 5 strikers in game come gw6

[wanton whale]

👍

Just because hes a 6m enabler doesnt mean you can lie to yourself

[marsh palm]

Salah has 6 GA in opening games preceding the community shield

[cedar hull]

Top 6 defences bar spurs

[wanton whale]

plays for west ham as well

[hollow ermine]

Watch g

Watch

[wanton whale]

the cope is mental

even Potter doesnt rate him

[lone thorn]

my def is 6/5.5/5.5/5.5/5.5😬

[humble bane]

Idk what to do with Rogers anymore

[wanton whale]

downgrade one of your 4.5s to a 4.0 and get a 7.5 striker/mid

if Rogers is in training this week id assume he starts tho

he was always missing today

[lone thorn]

one of them is Munoz who is a winger basically so doesn't count ig

[lone thorn]

Milenko + Murillo🥶

[surreal ocean]

lets see the team

[lone thorn]

ight

[humble bane]

im gonna have to go with 3 strikers after talking sh#t about them all summer 😭

wait ive cooked..

Ive cooked....

[humble bane]

thx for the idea

[cerulean cape]

Every team in here ctrl c + ctrl v

[wanton whale]

standout options are all there tbh

defcon makes it easier

[cerulean cape]

Also pins if anyone wants to do draft

Gonna make a thread tomorrow and draft maybe tuesday/weds

[humble bane]

all i'd have to do is Watkins -> Isak right before FPL changes his team to Liverpool. Then I can have a GW with 4 Liverpool players and wait for my FT to change one of them

[lone thorn]

u'll have to downgrade one of ur def

1.5m

[humble bane]

frimpong -> 4.5

dont have to decide rn anyway whoever is the worst will be out

[obtuse shoal]

And yet so many seem to go Bowen

[valid river]

That sounds normal

[novel harbor]

ye it is-ish

[wanton whale]

but but sunderland away gw1 so good

[valid river]

Like 44%x42% for the chance that they both miss

[surreal ocean]

anyone punting on the ekitiky train

[magic gyro]

Ekitike played well today tbf

best player out there new singings

[valid river]

Wait Delap got a brace today?

JP owners shuddering

[latent depot]

I think I'm going to do it, no Salah/no Haaland BB2 WC8

[novel harbor]

[latent depot]

YOLO not trying to finish 10k

[lone thorn]

he's lowkey moving me

but it's a wait + see regarding if Isak comes in

[latent depot]

I'm on it, no other triple Liverpool looks great without Salah

[wanton whale]

🙄

wait that looks like i sent it

[surreal ocean]

both have unfavourable fixtures

oh haha

[valid river]

Teams locked except for kellegoat maybe

Rest are locks. Just gotta pray Reijnders plays

[surreal ocean]

lets see it

ill copy

[marsh palm]

Kovacic is out too

And Foden is unlikely to play v Wolves

He's nailed

[broken patio]

Is wanting Munoz, sarr, mateta considered a kneejerk?

Sarrs stats are just insane

Ik he underperforms consistently though

[quick dawn]

yes

[broken patio]

Like, sarr+1m Vs Pedro feels obvious, given the xmins

But I actually don't have anywhere to spend the 1m anyway :/

[latent depot]

hahahaha just seen the shootout, was that Eze 2nd pen? I said "he's missing this" as soon as he did that stupid stutter step

[lone thorn]

Mateta > JP upto gw8?

i'm torn

he's 6.7% owned

[cedar hull]

Yeah everyone who was in here watching the game called the eze miss before it even happened, was written

[cedar hull]

Weren't we both triple palace way before this game anyway? Basically means we are just returning to an old draft right

[broken patio]

I've been on double

Although that double keeps changing

Have always considered a triple but, Brighton bias has got in the way

But damn they looked so impressive today holy fuck

[latent depot]

well, I'm looking at WC8 during IB2, so it's Mateta to Solanke for me GW6... Liv(H) + Eve(A) vs Wol(H) + Lee(A)

[wanton whale]

why not both

[broken patio]

Eze miss was almost as predictable as Salah miss

[broken patio]

Gang

[lone thorn]

that looks good actually, selling Mateta is an option yh ,ur on same wc as me aswell

[lone thorn]

i've Watkins + JP

[lone thorn]

would u bring Mateta back in or stick with Solanke?

[latent depot]

on WC8? it's between Mateta and Pedro

[wanton whale]

im currently on watkins jp mateta

[lone thorn]

so y don't u just start with JP? don't trust the mins?

[latent depot]

yes, also don't trust Chelsea cos lacking match fitness

Mateta is the form pick and is captainable GW4 cos I don't have Salah

[quick dawn]

can people actually critique my draft

[lone thorn]

lemme see the team g

[latent depot]

Mateta on pens is super nice, I was on the fence until he took the pen today

[lone thorn]

yh surely he's a lock on them now

[cedar hull]

no munoz, otherwise kinda sexy

[lone thorn]

Eze took their last pen vs forest i think

[quick dawn]

so u think the forward line is actually reasonable

[lone thorn]

y do u need Moush if u got Haaland + Reijn

[acoustic edge]

u really just look at a big 6 player and say i want him w/o acc looking at the individual asset fairs

[wanton whale]

ignore the bench im looking at bb2 but it looks crap

[quick dawn]

i mean all the players people are picking individually

ive had them all in different drafts

[marsh palm]

Do I start Munoz Andersen or Thiago

[quick dawn]

whos a better 8.5 than marmoush who i dont already have

[lone thorn]

we got the same starting mid that actually looks balanced af

[quick dawn]

you have bruno and munoz i have ekitike and marmoush

[wanton whale]

yeah i do like most of it, wish i could squeeze to wirtz

[surreal ocean]

isak could do u

[wanton whale]

also a 2.5m difference

[quick dawn]

no thats literally the same team otherwise

he has thiago on the bench

[wanton whale]

yeah thiago should go

use the money elsewhere

[marsh palm]

When would I BB without a formidable 2nd striker

Guiu didnt even appear in either Sunderland lineup

Also I like my team even with Thiago on the bench

I guess I could upgrade GK but 2 4.5 FWDs when I wanna BB early

[wanton whale]

so you want to bb early yet own Guiu?

[marsh palm]

I mean yeah I'll take a point from Guiu

[latent depot]

don't rate BB with any player that realistically will get 1 point

[marsh palm]

I might BB16 like I wanted to originally

[carmine arch]

Might just lock this in

Need neco transfer now

[supple steeple]

you arent locking anything in

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/tijjani-reijnders-laughing-hahaha-ac-milan-riendo-gif-18012845009993908644

[carmine arch]

Neco to 4.5 lac to munoz

[lone thorn]

delete this bro

[carmine arch]

I'm going on holiday

[wanton whale]

why 😃

[supple steeple]

oh

rip rank

[lone thorn]

we need that % low

[supple steeple]

see you next season

[wanton whale]

id cancel it icl

[carmine arch]

I go on holiday Thursday

I'll keep up to date with transfer news ig

[obtuse shoal]

Small difference makes me have Evanilson instead of Ndiaye (basically Gakpo instead of Wirtz)

[lone thorn]

didn't u just come back from holiday?

warra helper

[carmine arch]

I wasn't engaged at all for the start of last season so

Offline now

[cedar hull]

using up all your annual helper leave in 2 weeks is certainly a strategy

[obtuse shoal]

Friday is a holiday here. Sucks, cause then I won’t be able to tinker all day and watch cc videos while at work

[marsh palm]

Whos the 2nd best 4.5 FWD

Is it Kroupi?

[supple steeple]

I get jealous every time I see your messages

[cedar hull]

should get salah tbh

[supple steeple]

such pretty colours

[obtuse shoal]

Just for my colour?

Shouldn’t have become a mod then

[supple steeple]

gotta win LMS too though

ffs

[lone thorn]

get Mo

[obtuse shoal]

This year so many are winning lms. They done killed my favorite game 😭

[marsh palm]

.5 in the bank now

[lone thorn]

oh u actually did it

[wanton whale]

bro folded already

[marsh palm]

I just wanna see what .5 upgrade I can do

Its been these 2 lineups anyway

[lone thorn]

i like that better, it's upto u tho ultimately comes down to Salah/Haaland

[marsh palm]

I wanted to go Malen/Gakpo/Haaland even before I found this thread

[lone thorn]

Petro -> 5m

Neco -> Milenko

Andersen -> Romero

there's a few things u can do

[wanton whale]

im only joking haha

[marsh palm]

I'd probably do Neco to Milenkovic

What if I stayed with my current team and downgraded Thiago like recommended

I have 1.5M in the bank now

[limber pine]

How do we tribute the dead FPLCord member? @lone thorn

[lone thorn]

that's upto Shag

[limber pine]

I vote to close down the discord for a week

One week silence.

[wanton whale]

wait who?

[marsh palm]

Warra team

[lone thorn]

i clocked the difference between mine + urs is essentially Porro, Gabi, Milenko, Munoz vs Tark, Sensi, Neco, Mateta i think u win that ngl

[wanton whale]

its close tbf

[lone thorn]

Munoz is a winger, cbit + goal + cs to outscore Mateta every other gw i'm chilling

[barren geyser]

just a fpl cheat code

[surreal ocean]

not crazy right?

[marsh palm]

My team is similar

Just Salah and Evanilson for Gakpo and Haaland

And then Neco for Milenkovic

[lone thorn]

wtf is that, looks cool

[surreal ocean]

just no straightforward way to rogers

its called

um

451

🤣

[marsh palm]

I have 10.5m in the bank what 2 players do I get here

[hollow ermine]

Ping

When

Haul

[lone thorn]

the app😂

[surreal ocean]

solio btw

[lone thorn]

ah

paid?

[surreal ocean]

free !

[marsh palm]

5.5 midfielder and 5.0 defender?

[surreal ocean]

for now i think

[marsh palm]

Or get Esteve and then 6.5 midfielder

[surreal ocean]

im just using it to plan my chips and transfers

[limber pine]

Solio the new biggest project within FPL

[marsh palm]

I might go Romero and Anderson

My defence is now 5.5x4/5.0

[lone thorn]

i'd want to have Watkins/Mateta as the st instead of Evanilson is all tbh

easier to pivot if needed + better option

[marsh palm]

Having 1 of Munoz/Anderson/Romero on the bench is useless tho

[surreal ocean]

yeah, i'd want cover for villa

but im on bruno instead of watkins

[limber pine]

It’s analytics driven so it gives the best team out

[surreal ocean]

think he's a better option

[marsh palm]

I've done it

Sobbing and not giving advice

Laughable

[limber pine]

Biggest kneejerk team I’ve seen today

[marsh palm]

Ive had Haaland over Salah the whole time?

The only kneejerk is Sarr

He's the only good 6.5 anyway

That 11 is nasty

I could downgrade Milenkovic and Munoz and then get Eze

Looks good tbf

[limber pine]

Look at you’re bench and restart

[marsh palm]

Im not gonna BB early

I was told downgrade Thiago but if I cant bb with Guiu whats the point of having money on my bench

[broken patio]

Bruno

[barren geyser]

hes 9m 😭

[broken patio]

Worth .5 over Marmoush imo

[quick dawn]

theres no one to downgrade in my draft

[broken patio]

Ah I was gonna say Murillo to Neco but you have Neco too lmao

Tark to lacroix (?)

[cedar hull]

im sure i can find something

[broken patio]

Like, is Marmoush worth 2m over sarr?

Maybe that's hyping sarr too much

[cedar hull]

why has rem posted about 50 drafts past half hour

was tryna find bezzos

[quick dawn]

.

[broken patio]

Sarr would've had a hatty today if he had more than 3 braincells

And he won the pen too

[quick dawn]

no one even had sarr until today

[broken patio]

That's not true

In this thread we've been saying he's the best 6.5 for ages

[quick dawn]

well i did but no one had him in recent drafts

[cerulean cape]

Honestly our teams in here are so different to template

And I genuinely hate the twitter teams

[supple steeple]

what on earth is this

[surreal ocean]

i feel like twitter is still on 343

[supple steeple]

looks horrible

not your team, just the graphics

[cerulean cape]

twitter are hot on random 5.5m mids

and loads of 6m defs

[quick dawn]

reindeers

[cerulean cape]

basically seems like people are still overlooking DC

[surreal ocean]

solio its a little planning tool

[cerulean cape]

yes my guy

[supple steeple]

oh its the ai bullshit

[acoustic edge]

feel like shit about bb

[cerulean cape]

rodri never got picked

[limber pine]

You think he’s a shit pick?

[cerulean cape]

and he got 18 returns

[cerulean cape]

yes

[limber pine]

Rodri and Reijnders ain’t comparable tho

[cerulean cape]

stacked city mid

[quick dawn]

hes 5.5 though

[cerulean cape]

yes rodri is miles better

cos he was nailed

[quick dawn]

5.5 is competing with lacroix

[limber pine]

As a FPL pick Reijnders for 5.5 and potentially playing in the 10 for City.. how you make that be a shit pick?

[cerulean cape]

is 8g 2a good for the season

if he gets that

[limber pine]

Pep said he can play 6, 8 and 10

[supple steeple]

Pep also lies

[limber pine]

And likes to thrive in the box

20 G/A last season

Very promising pre season

[supple steeple]

and picks his team by throwing darts

[limber pine]

Not a shit pick

[acoustic edge]

i really like this

adingra >>

[surreal ocean]

interesting

[acoustic edge]

wc13 obviously

[cerulean cape]

oh i forgot raya being an option lmao

[supple steeple]

lol obviously

[surreal ocean]

i dont understand a wc13, so so late ?

[acoustic edge]

raya

[surreal ocean]

arsenal & city fixtures turn around 7,8 ?

[supple steeple]

I actually laughed out loud

ah thats done me in

[acoustic edge]

fpl brainrot

bb2 (get it out the way and tank the ev loss) fh6 wc13 feels good

[supple steeple]

yeah I have no doubt wc13 is good

it was just the way you said it

after only posting your team

[surreal ocean]

whats your team looking like jazz

or do you hide

gatekeep

[acoustic edge]

very nervous of VDV staying fit though

on a real one

[acoustic edge]

sorry 😭😭

[supple steeple]

I wonder how many people in the world

would say "oh this is a wc13 draft, obviously"

by looking at that picture

[acoustic edge]

LMFAO

[acoustic edge]

maybe murillo VDV -> lacroix romero makes sense

for more robustness and if fh6

[obtuse shoal]

Dont think I want to have to start Adingra each week

[broken patio]

Raya is the biggest clue

[acoustic edge]

only first 6

projected numbers are equivalent to anderson

just higher variance and i’m happy to go there

besides even if there was an ev loss it’s so marginal

[cerulean cape]

Which one would you like to see

[broken patio]

Bottom one

[cerulean cape]

Wait

Sels for sanchez

[acoustic edge]

when wc

[cerulean cape]

Fh4, wc7/8

[acoustic edge]

fairs

[obtuse shoal]

Wish I could have that midfield in a 442

[broken patio]

You can

[cerulean cape]

You can but need 4.5m gk and def

[broken patio]

Wirtz Vs Bruno only diff, .5 away

[broken patio]

Nah

[cerulean cape]

Have watkins

[broken patio]

Meh

Not convinced he's worth 1.5 over mateta/Pedro/evanilson

Can make that spot a mid too and go 451

[acoustic edge]

mateta op with pens

[broken patio]

With Rogers or whoever

Even a start

Sarr*

[humble bane]

my 5 atb costs 28m dfkm

[cerulean cape]

Why is mateta on pens now

He was on pens pre gw30 last year too

Then eze took last 8 gws

[acoustic edge]

because eze leaving

[cedar hull]

i personally thought he was always first choice over eze but most people said eze so i had no clue

but he scored one mid game and in shootout

[cerulean cape]

They said they will rotate

[cedar hull]

eze missed in shootout

[cerulean cape]

Eze also missed vs city

And carried on taking

Mateta missed in fa semis?

[humble bane]

palace = trap imo until gw4

[cerulean cape]

Tbh they probably play rock paper scissors before the game lmao

[obtuse shoal]

This is what I landed on today.

[broken patio]

Like it

[surreal ocean]

why bench reinder

for wolves (a)

[obtuse shoal]

Cause I just picked him to have a bench option. Didn’t think him through enough.

[cerulean cape]

That team is changing 100% by friday

[obtuse shoal]

Normally I’d bench Munoz for that fix. But if you get Munoz why bench him?

[cerulean cape]

Btw again pins if people wanna play draft, we have 8 atm and know a couple more from main chat. Will sort out tomorrow

[obtuse shoal]

Ofcourse. Just what I landed on today.

[limber pine]

Like it

[obtuse shoal]

Do let know when the draft would be done. Slightest of interest here.

[cerulean cape]

React to it

Will make something tomorrow

Then draft Tuesday or wednesday

When we agree tine

Time*

[acoustic edge]

has anyone acc looked at wc7 btw

who tf do u buy

[obtuse shoal]

Ok reacted to it. But I’ll see if I can be online for the draft. If not, no biggy

[surreal ocean]

saka

[acoustic edge]

buying saka is not that difficult tho

like this with 5FT u can move to whoever u want

like even salah -> saka makes sense and then what

[cerulean cape]

That's good then

Even better if no wc7

[broken patio]

Acting like it's easy to save 5ft at the start of the season

[acoustic edge]

it’s not wc7 tho

[broken patio]

I mean if you plan for wc7 and don't end up needing wc in 7 then that's perfect

[acoustic edge]

that’s the point like i think the fixtur swing might be overrated

[cerulean cape]

It's flexible

What beef said

[surreal ocean]

and city defender and midfielder, maybe gyokeres

[acoustic edge]

ur kinda fucked with triple forest

[cerulean cape]

You just said we have 5 fts

[acoustic edge]

LMFAO fairs

[broken patio]

Wc7 means you can load up on forest and spurs Def, bin them all wc7, move to a load of arsenal players, plus we'll have much clarity around then on city/Liverpool picks, Brighton get good from gw7, villas fix turn bad shortly after etc etc etc etc

[cerulean cape]

Forest play 4 out of the bottom 6/7 in first 6 games and with fh4, it fades arsenal

Brentford, west ham, Burnley, Sunderland all regulation tier

Delegation

Wtf

Cba

[cedar hull]

is everyone on rogers and watkins if rogers is fit

[broken patio]

It's nice to only have to focus on the opening weeks on your gw1 team, when exactly that early WC is used doesn't really matter, but 7 looks cosy

[cerulean cape]

Yes

[acoustic edge]

no

[obtuse shoal]

Im guessing big chance we won’t know about rogers.

[broken patio]

Idk, I think I'll probably have Rogers but idk about Watkins

[acoustic edge]

wirtz mateta is better than rogers watkins

[broken patio]

But yeah I don't think we get much more data

[elder cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-flight-stare-flightreacts-stare-staring-gif-2283485879662631358

[acoustic edge]

yeah i just typed it out

idk

no wirtz p locks out anything that isn’t salah -> saka gw7 but

[cedar hull]

im just building drafts atp

[cerulean cape]

Watkins has outscored Haaland last 2 seasons. Biggest disrespect in fpl. Does it without pens too.

[cedar hull]

helps with 18 assists from 4xa or whatever it was

and haaland injury

but still not wrong

i love you tim

[hallow anchor]

If Watkins can get dropped for Marcus rashford I don't want him in my team

[cedar hull]

fairs

[prime plinth]

Salah last 15

[latent depot]

Fixture run GW1-7 is GOATed

[lavish parcel]

Leaning Saka over Palmer

[latent depot]

I've got both

[cerulean cape]

I think Rogers being unfit helps me with my draft more than others

[hallow anchor]

Only took 1 friendly Vs palace for people to remember Salah isn't an automatic 10 points

[cedar hull]

palmer clear with saka low pen share

idk what to make of rogers cos he just ignores data lol

[cerulean cape]

Tbh salah has skied 2 pens in a row. He's scoring the next 8 for sure

[lavish parcel]

There's a big haul at old Trafford waiting for Saka

[humble bane]

ppl reacting off wembley salah

[latent depot]

Saka takes 80th minute pen after Gyokeres sub

[cedar hull]

0-1 saliba goal, timber assist

[lavish parcel]

Palace looked so strong and palmer is basically ghosting without pens

[hallow anchor]

How much is zubamendi?

[lavish parcel]

We all know it's gonna be more than that

[cedar hull]

5.5 i think

[hallow anchor]

[cedar hull]

tbf im leaning more towards both teams tryna not lose = low scoring

[humble bane]

don't underestimate uni7ed

[lavish parcel]

You know your defence is cooked when you concede 2 goals vs Everton

[cedar hull]

preseason bro

[lavish parcel]

So last season were preseason too?

[cedar hull]

idk did they not play everton in preseason

what point you tryna make

[lavish parcel]

Utd defence is ass

[cedar hull]

game state matters though

last 3 games have been 2 goals or less

between united and arsenal

both teams would rather not lose than win

last one being a rice goal and bruno free kick

[lavish parcel]

I back Arsenal to go for the win

[cerulean cape]

Amorim is bringing the glory days back

[valid river]

My 10 game parley is going to go crazy this week

[lavish parcel]

The intensity will be high so I am expecting ping pong football but I think there is a haul for Saka

[cerulean cape]

Bruno is getting 1 assist and getting 10 points vs Arsenal

[cedar hull]

why will the intensity be high

[cedar hull]

[latent depot]

Bruno YC for sure

[valid river]

If anyone wants free money, just bet on under 2.5 goals for Forest. We cannot score 3 in a game

[supple steeple]

you didnt watch the game I assume

[cedar hull]

bruno assist yc and zubi ass madueke goal or some bs

[lavish parcel]

Nope just the highlights

[supple steeple]

so you saw the own goal?

[lavish parcel]

Yeah

[supple steeple]

incredibly random

[valid river]

Cannot wait for bournmouth clean sheet gw1

[cerulean cape]

That was pre Branthwaite everton

[supple steeple]

but whatever suits your agenda, right

[broken patio]

Yeah it's easy to forget how shit Salah was at the end of last season

[cerulean cape]

Its not new

His end of seasons are always shit

When it matters

[cedar hull]

hes a 28 gw merchant

[supple steeple]

1: they were already on vacation
2: Salah was going for the assist record

[valid river]

Saw him spectate 2 legs vs nuno Mendes too

[hallow anchor]

Salah doesn't need to be shit but he does need to be doing A LOT to be worth 14.5

[cedar hull]

i mean we all know hes not getting 344 points again

[hallow anchor]

6 ppg and you're better off without

[cedar hull]

id expect 260-300

[latent depot]

That's a massive non committal range 😂 literally 1ppm difference from top to bottom

[valid river]

That's 7-8 per game

My point but you said more words

[cedar hull]

duh

[hallow anchor]

Even 8 ppg is borderline worth it for 14.5

[cerulean cape]

He's predicted like 230 points, bad option

[cedar hull]

his lowest is 211 and highest is 344

[broken patio]

Why say many word when few words do trick

[cedar hull]

im expecting an average season by his standards

[cerulean cape]

I'm happy getting 8 from my cap each week

[hallow anchor]

Only worried about the Bournemouth game for Salah, could definitely haul ass there

[valid river]

Nuh uh

[cerulean cape]

1g 1a for salah gw1

[valid river]

Bournmouth cs

[hallow anchor]

Other than that I will wait til an easy run

[cerulean cape]

The standard

[broken patio]

Petro owner spotted

[cerulean cape]

Show your non salah haaland team

[hallow anchor]

I haven't made an actual team yet

[cerulean cape]

Guess I need to make one, not tried one yet

[limber pine]

Can’t believe u doing 3 EVE and 3 NFO defenders, that’s overkill

[latent depot]

I've made one and I'm happy with it. If I wake up tomorrow still happy with it, I might just roll with it

[cerulean cape]

I won't, will go porro or chris wood

3 forest defs not overkill tho

[limber pine]

Chris wood makes no sense this season.

[limber pine]

It is 🤣

[latent depot]

Jazzy has like 5 drafts tbf

[cerulean cape]

Do you have a forest def

And why do you have him

[limber pine]

Yh

[cerulean cape]

Ok so forest def is a good option

Point proven

[hallow anchor]

I had I mind a 442 with 4 5.5+ defenders, Palmer Bruno wirtz gakpo, then idk forwards they all suck apart from haaland. Bowen and mateta maybe

Dunno if that is affordable

[limber pine]

Yh, but it’s not good enough to put 16.0 of your budget into it.

[cedar hull]

think its easily affordable tbh

probaby got 5 itb or smth