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Brighton could win 4-0 and it would be lamptey, Ayari, Hinshelwood, O'Riley with the goals
And noone would be surprised
That's the problem
guy who bought review doesnt care about xg btw

If only Evan had pens
literally what it uses to model team strength
yeah need kluivert news
Aren't Evans stats like amazing?
good thing i dont care about review either 🙄
Maybe he's the answer to the Pedro Vs mateta debate 
idk how pedro vs mateta is even a debate?
about the same if not better than solankes, average finisher vs bad finisher though
surely mateta is just the better pick?
Mateta any day
mateta is fixture proof
Jp who
then how do you measure attack strength then
idk 

bro what
or myb just simply big chances created actually
xg is the quality of chance created

big chances is literally defined by xg
Triple forest defense is a recipe for OR: 5M :/
Oml
why am i getting X'd its true
jade: i dont like cake but i like when you mix flour and butter and sugar together
xg literally uses the context of the situation
defender positioning, pressure, time etc
i mean how a team might be great at getting into good positions but terrible at the final ball. i would still consider that team attacking. i think for me it'd just be big chances created. but i think its debatable
big chances created just misses the volume aspect
if a team gets up the pitch but fails most of the time at the final ball, they arent good at attacking
dc per start %
Until you see that bench, it looks so shit
but I get what you mean.
just out of curiosity, would u say that a team that creates 20 big chances but only scores 15 goals might be "more attacking" than a team that creates 10 big chances and scores 12 goals, even tho the second team is more efficient?
True true
not enough context really, but 20 big chances proves they are creating more higher quality chances, the finishing aspect is irrespective of the teams attacking ability
The accumulated xG of the first team is probably higher
there was a whole study about a player being a good finisher or getting more chances and the chances won in the end i think
but either way the players finishing is irrespective of the teams attacking ability, as thats down to the chance creation
alright beef its a new day, you can take your meds now
Woohoo
JP Mateta can certainly do that.
20 big chances could be 7xG or 14xG btw, but 15 goals on 20 BCs is wild regardless
yeah like i said not enough context, but a teams attacking ability isnt defined by players finishing
plays a very small part as the chance creation overbears it
but coming back to brighton, they play attacking football yes, but that doesnt mean they are a good attack
i can grant that ye
bournemouth underperformed xg by 6 due to shit finishing, forest overperformed by 13 due to good finishing, bournemouth were still a better attack
This makes me wanna go ekitike ngl
Doubt Isak signs for Liverpool over the weekend and gets played against Bou on Friday
ekitike is a career average finisher, just had a bad season
Watkins had a good time in my team but I don't see him starting gw1
huh
y not
pre planning transfers what could go wrong 
no i mean why dont u see him starting gw1
For me*
me casually pre planning 13 gameweeks
Ekitike does look fun but I don't wanna drop any of my other 3 Liverpool attack
oh
ekitike > wirtz imo
I'll actually chop off my left arm and send it to you if you keep to your plans
Me who has Wirtz, Salah and Ekitike 😭
JSL is going to out score JP but y'all aren't ready for that convo
if all goes well i actually will lol
Yeah definitely not
Even by like gw3 there will be bandwagons, injuries, shock results etc that change everything
like if i have no injuries for any of my chosen picks i dont see why not unless a team loses a rly important player
So you're just not accounting for form of teams at all?
Hmm Blackbox think marmoush>>>Bruno
a little bit
but fixtures 
People hyping up marmoush hurts me
So if Muniz scored 5 goals in 3 games for Leeds, you're not gonna move to him? No matter what?
every team i own will have good form
ez
no 
ill be gassed tho
i have a muniz top goalscorer outright at 500/1
this sounds very mentally healthy
@cedar hull Where do you stand rn on wirtz Vs gakpo Vs ekitike?
as of now assuming no signings?
gakpo > ekitike > wirtz
gakpo is the most reliable and quantifiable asset we have, and his value compared to the other 2
and ekitike over wirtz is mostly down to goal threat vs assist threat
ekitike same non pen xg90 as gyokeres in a harder league, his movement and change of direction both off and on the ball is insane for his size
Wirtz has had a decent preseason tho
its also dependent on other factos like formation and laternative options though
i prefer marmoush if the xmins are there over wirtz for example
wirtz just has the lowest goal share of the pool front 4 
he will tick over nicely of course, dont think he will do badly by any means
gakpo > wirtz > ekitike for me
ekitike lowk has nice link up moments and got an assist but wirtz is safer imo
It's like the 5 red guys are forming a shrine for semenyo
Don't skull react me you cunt
I don’t know if this is a serious team or not
Bou fix are so good for attackers up to gw7 WC
Now that Rogers and Watkins looks worse because of it, I can see myself using that spot on semenyo/evanilson
evanilson on pens 
Bruno > marmoush
why does watkins look ba
bda
bad
God knows
Tomorrow night united game
KDH or Wharton 
He doesn't seem to play 90
Ah just realised a bit of a problem with welbeck as the only forward in a 451
Oml
If hurzeler does his thing and randomly takes him out of the squad
"just realized"
Then it's not like you can have a Def sub in for him
Because you can't play 550
Fuck
Hurzeler roulette
So it's guiu autosub
L
Back to evanilson/mateta we go
Beef ur triple pool mid is really tempting me
As it should
Will only change if Wissa stays and or Rogers plays GW1
I like it
Or actually if Marmoush barely plays preseason
What preseason
They only have one game
yes that one game
will say a lot
milenkovic and him can become neco and bruno anyway
damn i actually like b more
Damn mateta and evanilsons stats are basically identical
Nketiah injured
So guys 4atb or 3atb?
4
4
Why's wood so big
I love 3atb as it might help me setup with BB but 4atb provides so much value
4atb
Okay wissa is fucking cracked
One of the highest shots per 90, highest shots on target per 90, and yet highest xg/shot
Main takeaway from that stats table is that they're honestly all pretty similar
Watkins probably not worth being so much extra
Bowens stats are awful
Jsls are quite shit
Welbecks are as good as the 7.5s but obvs a question of mins
Yeah
451 teams can still get to any bandwagon striker in 2 moves
Sell one of the many expensive mids we own
Only issue is team and manager change
Solanke has to go. Might sneak lacroix in. Might use solanke down to setup a cheap bb if darlow is available
I would like to start off with 442 (ekitike + Bowen) and then in GW2 get some clarity which club Wissa plays for and get him in
Big if
Also wouldn't then be surprised to see him benched or rested more in another game
Just not worth it sadly
Rodon gw1 masterclass
Since it's Burnley, TF might just let him rest and be okay with Richa
Esteve too, spurs don't know how to create chances
I like that 4-5-1 allows you to start with saka over Watkins and move from that point
Start Malen or JSL gw1?
Malen imo
Jsl is more like gw5 pick
i am coming round to the idea of JP, with wc7 in mind
Wait @latent depot why Malen for the "cs" points you said when you could get Caicedo. Too many Chelsea assets?
Some players I refuse to have because I don't like them. Cucu, JP, partey (while at ars)
my friend is the same and one of his is Salah, he finished 5m rank last szn
and he said he's not gona have him again this szn
Me cause Chelsea bias
Although Fofana being back probably makes him a minutes risk
Expect a lot of CB rotation once Badiashile and Fofana are healthy
Oofana
Fofana once he’s up to speed is a great pick at 4.5M
yeah, for the two games he manages to stay fit
Which striker is everybody leaning towards rn
Then Chalobah stocks are even higher lol
Watkins
Mateta and Watkins locked for me
possibly Haaland
cant decide between him and Salah
Idk
considering a 433 tbh
The right thing to do is Salah to start but
I just like Haaland more then Salah
To me its not FPL if you dont have fun
wait what's ur formation Sjaarti?
So I want to play Haaland + Gakpo + Malen
442 with Salah or 433 with Haaland
u got both? or seperate drafts
seperate yeah
haven't seen anyone with a 433 draft yet
yeah its prob bad
I'm on 4-3-3, 4-4-2 hybrid
433 standard
something like this idk
different gk ofc, didnt change him yet from first draft
I dont really like it, midfield is too rigid
u never know, that front 3 is good tbf. it's just the +1 for cs +goals ,and more likely cbrit for the mids that make u wana go heavy there than fwd
I dont even like Wirtz at 8.5 man
yo that's actually heat
Same format, Malen + 5.0
left on read 😔
I'm worried about Malen still, Rogers is hopefully back for gw1 apparently but idk
he's back??
Not yet
But reports saying he's hopeful for gw1
And I need Malen gw2
So probs not likely
Caicedo for 3 points gw 1 may be the shout
1&2
Triple Burnley BB2 
All drafts dead til Rogers news
ffs, wanted to wait but i ripped up my draft anyway
I might just avoid Malen and Rogers gw1 and play my safe draft
is Watkins in that one
Yessir
I don't think I want to take the risk on Malen. If something comes out and says Rogers is out until gw3, I'll play him
Caicedo just gives me 3-5 probs and I only need him for 2/3 weeks
If forest lose the Europa League appeal then I have to change my whole draft
Probs will quit fpl
.
I don't hate TC Salah GW1 👀 Bournemouth shipped 4 to United and 2 to West Ham
Once activated can’t undo
And first game of the season

Imagine ur season starts off with Salah tc blank you’d want to quit instantly
New back 4, both of their first choice pivots are out. That was their strength last season, the press with their pivots
Imagine the differential upside tho
Maximum punishment for no-Salah, and it's not obv that there's a better opportunity
If Bournemouth get spanked by Real Sociedad, I'll strongly consider it
Name a better fixture to target
If Salah looks good final preseason game and Bournemouth ship another 3 goals, it's on
Anfield is going to be loud, Jota tributes etc.
Talked myself back into triple Liverpool mids 😂 can Rogers be ok plz
Double Forest defence + Anderson just feels like lower ceiling triple defence
If you had 5M would you go sels and two forest def
Since Sanchez lost colwill in front of him
I would only go Sels if FH4
GKs are bad, Kelleher random 10pointer and you're set
Can start Dubravka GW2 and GW5
Sels with Dubravka GW2 +FH4 is really nice
Think I'm set with 2 drafts. 541 if Rogers doubts, 451 if confirmed fit
Guys remember when we lost 5-0 to bournmouth with the same xg then beat Brighton 7-0?
Me almost
Both results really skew your season stats
Give us a geez then
Wissa leaving if replacement signed
Ffscout posting gakpo prop or am I late
Fwiw slot confirmed they got frimpong to potentially cover RW when Salah goes afcon
Bournemouth linked to CB diakite from lille
Frimpong/Wirtz/Isak meta during Afcon
Pretty sure porro had 10 cbit vs bayern
Also 2 key passes
1 big chances created
Too bad we conceded 4
Bb2
saka 
If I go early bb. It would still try avoid spending. Saka gw2 captain and ship him off to whoever I want gw3
triple forest defence
Triple cs
you're gonna spend the first 5 weeks trying to downgrade that and fix your strikers
Starting lacroix 
Bruh the strikers suck
Most useless position in the game
Forest have the best opening 6 fixtures
They'll at the very least tick along
what do you mean tick along 😭 if they concede you're on a red arrow
Mid 5 is as consistent as it gets. Munoz is fine if he stays
just downgrade sels and lacroix to munoz
Not if they get save points and dc pts
Sels vs Brentford keeper is a pretty big gap first 6 for potential
2 points while the rest of the defenders on 0
🔥 maybe one of them will get a three pointer and sels 1 save point
Good to see if you want to punt porro. Minus the defending part. Even though it is bayern
would be more worried about triple defence instead of looking at the gk pick isolated itself
Porro or tarkowski
He's been near 10 cbit b2b games with also the big chance created vs bayern. Also madders down means more play through porro/set pieces. Corner at the least
I do have a porro draft lying around 
Surely porro right
Good morning frens, is there a new meta that has unfolded in the last 10 hours?
Nothing concrete if we dk rogers status
Right Rogers injured?
Yea
I seen something about him
slight knock is all i saw
“Hopeful” he’ll be back for gw1
🔥
Basically twisted his own ankle off the ball and signalled for a sub
And then went down on the pitch
Yeah hopeful... wasn't sold on Rogers anyway. He can be shipped off
why does that look like a 120m team value team
I've been 4-5-1 all week tbh
The power of 451
I was the 1st in here to say 4-5-1 gives access to what I want. If bb you obviously have to go a Muniz or something
Those three are probably the only locks
Apart from dub
Yeah I'm ngl Ive done basically 0 independent thinking on Marmoush, just put him in because it's what everyone has done with Rogers ded
Drank too much Cbit coolaid so I’m on double forest as well
oh i guess flights to tibet are cheaper before christmas
Mateta or evanilson
Gonna have really good weeks or really bad weeks
yesterday it was porro
No in between
this team is sexy tho
marmoush is him 😭
Well ayy has mateta and I have evanilson so don't ask us
even if its triple pool mids
it looks better when the pool players arent all beside eachother
Ig bb2 is like this
I don't see a world where I go without triple pool attack
whats worse triple pool mids or salah wirtz and saka
both are trash
Only saving grace is the Leeds game gw2
Like, the only way I get rid of one of the mids is if I get a pool striker instead
salah palmer marmoush now that's what u call bank
How are we hating on saka vs the two worst defensive teams itl
Man utd is a walk up 10 pter for saka
We’ve been fucking dog in preseason
idk what to do about rogers tho was kinda a lock for me
like want to scratch your eyes out bad
Saka was creating some good chances against villarreal saw the game
Arsenal never look good and still get it done when it comes to early season
Lets not forget
spurs fans defending arsenal, you know its desparate
Arsenal picks are literally just picks for those 2 weeks too, then the fix are dog shit until gw7
And we don't know who has pens
Lmao
Desperate? Saka at home vs leeds as a pod captain. Sign me up
We lost the 23/24(?) season cos of the Christmas period
Wow Rice is actual DC trash
Analcord would say Bruno moush wirtz
Yea
That is a few months in?
so what's the deal with going wirtz what's he shown y'all in preaseason that y'all became big fans
Anyone who says he’s good is referring to his wh numbers
When the rotation chaos starts
Goals
Assists
Plays for pool
xFear of him scoring and being 8.7 in gw2 tbh
He's one of the best players itw
Yea I’m just saying it’s not always late season collapse
That is all
Saka gw2 less appealing now that Newcastle look dog and Salah has then gw2
that why i have him
in pre season
We went 16/17 wins in the run in
?
Beaten by city
Yea
If wirtz wasn't one of the best players itw. I wouldn't go near it
idk if yous are talking about arsneal or wirtz 🔥
Yokohama f marinos dosent count
but enjoy
He’s 8.5
Sure he might take time to adapt. Everyone has him so who really cares
It’s either him or etikike anw
I don't hate the gakpo pick but they'll sign isak after gw1!
Bournemouth at home with cbs gutted conceding 4 to utd
Gakpo to rogers 
Newcastle looked terrible vs Tottenham
i dont think that matters much
And we made them look decent
oh it does
Probably the only preseason game they looked decent in
Got exposed badly on both wings
Ekitike can play lw in that case
ekitike is not likely to play lw
Any attacker signed reduces current attackers xmins that's just fact
I'm just saying preseason dosent matter all that much not tryna imply wirtz is a bad pick in any way
Enzo is also DC trash
6.5 is a dead price point
8.5 for one of the best 10s itw for the best attacking team in pl. Not much to say. I have to take a deeper look into it but there's obvious reasons given his numbers
Sarr 
Yeah only Sarr
Isak could defo play that LW/left attacker role
But right now I'm very happy with gakpo
rio is their backup left winger
But when u go triple of one teams attack and ur sticking with that for probably a decent time they're all 3 not gonna return reduces ur ceiling by quite a lot
Chiesa 
22 g/a in 31 games for wirtz in bundesliga. 6 goals 1 assist in 9 cl games. Levels
he also got like 2 returns in 15 games
25% better than the next best attack in the league, and put 3.2xg past the best defence in the league last season 
Wirtz is one of those players that is just hate to watch the game whilst not owning him
Marmoush 24ga in 17 games of bundeslifa if u really wanna account for previous season stats 👍
Sometimes you just need players who tick along
And we all own Marmoush too 
I'm not saying you're wrong but I didn't think triple mids for the best attack in the league would be an issue ngl
Also much different players for way different teams.
Marmoush also was good. He just has haaland taking chances away
So i don't like
Do you think JP is a good price point to start the season with and then switch to Wissa once the situation clarifies?
assuming they score 2-3 goals a game how likely is it that all 3 of ur players are involved
If marmoush was mid last seaosn he'd have scored very well
At least I'm pretty sure
Per start
The more that the fwd pool looks dead, the more appealing JP is. I think I'd prefer both mateta and evanilson though
3 goals can be 6 returns 
That wasn't the question tho was it
the odds of all 3 returning are very low
I imagine the Liverpool front 4 has what, 80% goal share?
Jp is minutes risk. Role risk. Team with varied returns and many many attackers. Palmer is the only one for me to even consider
which is why it's better to wait and see which pool mid is better and bring them in gw 4
Maybe 70
The positive is you will get good games in a Chelsea team. The issue is it'll likely be very inconsistent like madueke and Enzo
I mean, you're effectively asking for 2-3 goals per game and all 3 returning every game.
Yes the chance of that is low, but that's also 3 FPL players returning every single game, we don't need that at all for them to be worth it
I mean each are individual odds
58 of 86
I'm pretty confident we'll have the most goals again
Including assists?
I'm not even locked into palmer if I'm honest
Only counted the goals
I hated his role for Chelsea 2nd half of last season
Half of them are salah btw ^
Too deep. Too often the pass before the pass
The only one u really need
Every time there's a goal there's a 67% chance it's a player I own
I don't hate having one of gakpo/wirtz but going for 3 is mad over kill
Palmer was just roaming a lot without really hunting goals. Is a concern
I'll be honest steelix I'm all for discussion but it seems like you're just against them for no real concrete reason
Ur just playing it safe atp
The odds of 1/3 of them floppinf is quite high
Based on what
how's this not a concrete reason
That's fine btw
If all 3 scored every game mate I'd be winning FPL
Variance I suppose
How is the odds of one of them flopping high just because you have all 3?
3 years ago
Btw Liverpool attackers minutes might be weird but they still average solid ppm. It'll likely even out if they play enough. Could limit ceiling and upside ofc
Noone who's on triple pool attack expects them all to score every week, that's absurd
so whos on the marmoush > wirtz train with me?
so ur saying all 4 of the Liverpool attackers are gonna bang an insane amount of goals each?
Always have been
I can start off with Bowen, JP and Ekitike/Watkins and but it means 3atb
Like Diaz and gakpo had solid enough ppm
I was until about 2 days ago
Yes
Bruno > marmoush> Writz
Bowen to Mateta is the plan for gw4-5 if things go well
All of them are good individual assets, having all 3 of them doesn't make them each individually worse I don't see what's hard to understand about that
Can you make that claim about a single non-liverpool player in your team either?
ye agreed
My issue with moush is how much haaland takes away
when they play for the same team it does
Look at them all individually,
Is gakpo a good, high ceiling pick at 7.5m and being nailed LW for the best attack in the league? Yeah probably
Is Wirtz a good pick nailed CAM, 8.5m, for the best attacking in the league?
Yeah probably
i dont think haaland and marmoush are in comp anymore
Kinda no?
Moush moving to mids is extremely valuable. Minutes and haaland goal share is a major risk
think haaland just plays every game
They have higher odds than most ppl in the league
What ? Theyre worse because they all play for the same team??
Clankers gonna have a wake up call when they watch wirtz
and marmoush fights with the other midfielders
Haaland takes a massive goal share in that team
Marmoush joined in january
Even foden lucked out in his high scoring season off very low quality chances
They don't need to bag insane amounts of goals to be viable in FPL
i think this is gradually becoming less the case but i agree ye
Marmoush best games were without haaland in for fpl terms
Yeah that's always gonna be the case when u have 3 attackers from one team ur
- not going for other possible targets with higher ceiling limiting it to just one team
- not being able to capitalize when they blank
One game 
U gotta play with some risk imo and go for the 2 u think will be the best
Like surely I'm not wrong in suggesting the common theme of chance per 90 is better when haaland is out
Are there other picks with higher ceiling?
And if you get it wrong?
ur probably not
The pool picks probably have the highest ceiling lmao
Maybe Chelsea but xmins
that's what I said they have tough gws in 2 and 3 wait and see and bring the one u want inn4
cos Chelsea fix are peng
Wirtz has the lowest floor i think
So start with 1 pool?
Y'all able to afford triple pool mid palmer and marmoush?
Yea duh
I think he at worst is a 180 pts player as a 120m star player signing
Salah's best games were vs newcastle
thats not a tough fixture sadly
isnt this beefpurple team
it's alright then if y'all can afford that
They put 3.2 xg past the best defence in the league last season, there's hardly any tough fix
Isn’t that our current draft
Thought u guys had to sacrifice one of marmoush/palmer
Wirtz is just odegaard(best season)but for a better team with better quality
I don't have my 5th mid decided myself
And he's not shit
Evan can become Watkins if Rogers is fit
Marmoush evanilson to Rogers Watkins I imagine
Yeah exactly this
And also used the .5 diff to change Steve to Richards
Rogers injured Watkins 
if there's no way they sign isak I will 100% be on gakpo
Not before gw2
And by then won't be fit until gw4
if theres no way they sign isak i will 100% be on ekitike
Also who rotates better with spurs. Fulham or palace?
Ok what would you actually change for a bb2 team. Definitely not sold on the early bb cause it forces me to have the 2nd striker priced up.
Gakpo starts gw1-3 100%
Hmm
Palace supposedly
I'm kinda sold on afcon transfers bb
Yeah but 2 and 3 are kinda eh not that much reward for such a big gamble
Isak doesnt rlly affect Gakpo mins
can always bring in a pool mid in gw4 when their fixtures are crazy
Ekitike will
can ekitike not play off the left?
That's just copium atp
oh? 👀
Gakpo is miles clear of Ekitike at LW bruh
Semenyo maybe over gakpo
He can indeed lol
well hes not
will take many starts off him to keep gakpo viable
Any attacker signed reduces attackers mins bro whether same position or not
probs similar enough to rotate
I can see it. I'm looking at different alternatives. Hate the striker choices for bb1 and 2 but I also don't want it to drag on
ngl idk why liverpool signed ekitike lol
Imo if u really want triple pool mid start of with wirtz and salah and bring in gakpo gw4 that would be my real opinion
Jhon Arias is 5'5 wtf
because Nunez isnt good enough and Jota died
Booking a transfer if required in gw 4 isn't bad
Like this seems fine for bb2. Little bit of potential. Minimal work into it
Slot : “We definitely thought about AFCON. It's partly why we brought in Frimpong because he can play as a right-winger. A maximum six games without Mo, but that's a lot in the Premier League. Jeremie can play there”
damn
like height or 5.5m 
Both
Ekitike will still play 2.5k mins this season when we sign Isak
Very blunt with it😭😭
Like a 4-2-2-2 is the only way salah isn't replaced by frimpong
salah replaced by wat
huh
Thank u beef
Do u have one where it goes for a little bit longer like gw 10-12 maybe?
During afcon
I think I'll just go Salah and Wirtz and not worry about Isak signing or not
oh
yes i expect frimpong to replace salah
Because I don't really know when to wc so just to be safe it might be better
If isak signs. No salah bb1-2 and fh4 wc7-8.
Why does Rogers have to be a doubt, can't do any planning
we all bringing in frimpong when salah goes to afcon then yeah 👀
Kudus got 14 cbit against bayern
Salah moves inside

Pause
...
Essential now
Can’t undo what changes I make if I want to “delete” a gw but I can just refresh the site
Salah probably wouldn’t like that
why
He's a Liverpool fan, and it's a new shiny signing
lmao
frimpong was gonna be a huge trap until bradley got injured
who else will be rotated with him?
bradley when hes fit
Tark or porro?
dunno
both
depends on rest of defence but tark
I have murillo, neco, Munoz, Richard’s currently
Wrong reply but oh well
who was tark/porro gonna replace!?
i dont like the palace defs as much
Has a 6.1 on sofa but people said he was the one positive
I like kudus as a player. Just concerned he gets enough chances early on to be fpl relevant. Likely to get the most attention of our attackers
Just to confirm
He's the only outlet
Next to richy sarr and Johnson 
Tottenham pick should do fine. Just not taking the risk atm
Marmoush + mateta or evanilson + Bruno
Tuff
This bruno guy is a trap
Yeah I think so as well
how can he possibly be a trap
I had him for like 6 gws of crap
who cares about what happened last season
the game last season isnt even remotely the same as the game this season
I mean 9m for a mid who drops deep
I don't see it
He'll be patchy good
9m for a mid who returns, is on pens, and drops deep
literally the best of
every world
hes anderson/tielemans on crack
He isn't consistent for attacking returns. Always inconsistent
Chaloboah and tosin could be great value for money
He only had like 20 cbit pts
idek what this means, attacking returns are inherently volatile
noones consistent for attacking returns except from premiums
9m for someone who is as up and down as him for stretches of games. I'm just not convinced
Others will know what I mean
what 😭
His last two seasons have had stretches of poor fpl returns
He isn't reliable in my experience at a awkward price
what arent u understanding about the fact that the game this season is completely different to last season tho?
With poor fixtures overall
like you cant compare them in abstract
First 7 is solid. First 5 is not it for a 9m player. I think bruno is a solid option. Just burnt me too many times
Is he worth 1m more than bowen, maybe
ye this is true but its not even the major point
fpl have curated the game in such a way where owning him is just fundamentally beneficial
I think so because of the mid position. That said, bowen is on an absolute tear these past few months
2+3+2+ (1-3)
Bowen might even be getting disrespected for how ridiculous his end of season was
Had a poor season before that
bowen isnt disrespected, forwards are just nowhere near as good as any other position in the game rn..
Underrated
this is why 4-5-1 is even being considered
Bruno is solid. I just hate that 3 are big 6 top 6 defensive teams most likely
He can get cbit in those games though which helps
get in guessand
And bps if low scoring
and he can score or assist in those games
Yeah I'm very high on 4-5-1
i'd be interested to see u present a fixture that bruno cant return in
or better yet, hasnt
What number do we look at
I will guranteed go 4-5-1 unless I bb or something crazy happens with transfers
Whichever one you want
Mmmm numbers
Strikers are fine but picking which one will over perform enough to be value ppm. Tough
npxg, npxg per shot and npg-xg
They have to score more than 1 in 2 games
Wissa amongst the highest for number of shots per 90 and yet the highest xg per shot, and overall xg, what a guy
always said hes the best 7.5 if he stays at brentford
3 in 5 i think gets you an ok outcome from it
Yeah
Wissa isn’t an option man
Pens now too
i quite like this, bit of fomo on pool mids though
If watkins goes 3 g/a in 5. Basically an L
Evanilson gang
solid
yeah hes likely leaving, probably newcastle if not saudi
Watkins solid pick though. Do think he goes a return a game for the first 7
no
On avg
i mean thats too much to ask for
Guessand official
5 goals 2 assists in 7
on average dont you get like a return every other game
So long Malen
Watkins is around 22 g/a+ per 38 you'd assume. Expect upside with the fixtures. Maybe 5 in 7 is more realistic
Hes still gonna start GW1 lol
And besides Guessand replaces Bailey and Buendia as depth
Yeah but that's just a transfer waiting to happen for me
Idm the idea of having saka first 2 gws and then moving to Watkins
Arsenal look ass, just get Watkins from the start
The good thing with starting with saka. Can pivot to anyone. The downside is if he doesnt deliver as captain gw2. Wasted transfers and funds
Decent game to back though as a semi differential
they'll all play together?
they can 
With bruno, I think you need a 5.5m mid/fwd to balance
Ramsey youre keeping right?
dunno jeff
this is solid
Malen aboslute no go imo
Too much options for villa
ye 100%
Interesting, why
I said it the line above
I'd just stay with Watkins and Rogers if I go with villa attack
ramsey isnt nailed at all
Oh isee
im undecided on anderson, arias or tielemans (6m)
Honestly think spurs attackers would be way more exciting options if ange had remained
Who's your non-anderson 5.5s then?
Without rash lw?
Adingra
I might go beto tbh
rogers can play lw, or guessand, or maybe mcginn
Thoughts on Sesko price? 8.0?
Confirmed?
Muniz valid?
8.5m as he plays 90 every game
is it barry or beto starting?
Beto starts the first few
lol
Ik muniz has some links away but Fulham fans think he is going to be good
Balance
8.5 for bottom of table scrubs? Solanke similar situation 
If sesko is 7.5, do we cop?
tbf united probs get top 6 this season
sesko should have been 7 at newcastle, at united they will overprice him at 8 or smth
Son/rich existed
At least solanke is a Europa league winner
Sesko couldnt be 7 at Newcastle especially if isaj left
Spending £250M for top 6 
would've been 7.5 at newcastle i reckon
8 or 8.5m tho
Utd aren't getting top 6
yeah, should have been 7, 7.5 would have been what fpl chose
Maybe top 12
they are ngl
if utd get baleba they actually have an insane team
Scenes when people realise that Utd can't defend at all still
the defence is still the same lmao
The Martinez guy is overrated. De ligt is slow. Yoro struggling. It is a disaster
The system
why have beto over anderson lol
Zero chance unless they sell garnacho, antony, sancho, malacia
Triple forest
oh
I would have 5 forest if I could
well sell wood
Booking in your first 2 transfers....
i dunno i kinda buy the narrative that forest cant score
I think Tottenham will still be a chance to challenge top 6. Bayern was only 1 up at half with 2 shots on target
ye same
same
even tho its pre season
they look confused rn
If beto starts first 3, I'm laughing great fixtures
Pure cope about the bayern game. Got cooked
i watch every forest game even tho im a county supporter
Bayern has former Burnley manger
Spurs against Burnley gw1
Did beat arsenal at least and the Newcastle game was fine. Hard to say
4-0 loss to Burnley?
Idk where I stand on porro Vs tark, for the first 6 weeks
Preseason results anyway... you'd think if we get a quality 10. Should join utd in pushing for a European spot
tark imo
tark
but both
if porro doesnt clean against burnley youre finished
yeah
or return
id take either
I think porro is fine but I assume a review or something would have him rotated vs city
ill probably bench him gw2
im either transferring out gw2 or subbing him for esteve 
If Keane is playing then tark is so much less appealing
If I go bb1 aggressive wc no salah. Porro is at least interesting
branth will be back 
id be very concerned if spurs cant clean against burnley
Brant out is why i have neither
ye
think its gonna take them a long time to learn defence again
i just see porro getting more points than munoz before wc
FPL Mate posted midfield tiering video. Bro has S-tier Salah/Palmer/???? - can you guess the third player? Only allowed if you haven't watched the video 
bruno?
Tbf outside of bayern. Arsenal and Newcastle both shown it is possible
neco?
Is it gonna be something stupid like Anderson
Again only preseason
Ndiaye
either bruno or anderson
Anderson? 
I’m looking now
How did you all know it was Anderson
me too ill check

arsenal and newcastle right now are not in a good state attacking wise
Fpl mate seems like entertainment/engagement farm over substance. At least sometimes
Genuinely a gues
had to be someone of shock factor 
Thats hilarious btw
Dammit
Anderson is only a bad pick because I have 3 other forest
Mr andersonnn
Omg I actually got it right
Palmerla Anderson + Salah s-tier
wheres bruno on the list
Anderson is fine but are we seriously taking him over a 4th defender
better be top of A tier
no 4-5-1
That’s exactly where he is
Both
I don't see why you'd need Anderson in a 451
Anderson is Neco with lower ceiling, same yellow cards
Unless you go Watkins I guess
Saka
im rotating with jsl/porro/whoever
Ugh
anderson has higher ceiling than neco lowkey
on corners
with milenkovic's big cranium
Larger than life
Didn't know corner assists were more points than clean sheets
Fpl mate said marmoush is avoid
if not malen, I may go reijnders
twat
Tbf i don't want a pep attacker either
Rodri currently on my WC7 draft
I would go rodri gw1 if he was available. Vibes alone
send
you guys are making wc7 drafts?
what was andersons points last year with DC shite added
Ig Anderson has value in the cbit consistency. Imagine that drops off by a couple games though
Well yeah, I'm 💯 WC7 BB8 FH13
go outside guys
like 150
I've just worked 40 hours. Let me enjoy my Friday night
finished my placement year recently, i plan on nerding out on fpl for the foreseeable future
Yes, narrower range, more consistent
my placement year unfortunately did alot
I leave for work in 2 hours :(
i recognise this where is it
you guys are planning your wc and bb this year? im already planning out next years chips get on my level
Nottingham uno
Wrong
Oh yeah the Nottingham one is more grand
ffs man im in league one
I did have success with this type of player in ucl fantasy. Was that consistent type of pts just hanging around that allowed for more funds on top guys
I'm totally outside and not in bed playing gran turismo 7
I might have Anderson on WC7 tbh, there's a 5.5 TBC spot there, but he's just bad for GW1-6 when the Forest defenders have such high ceilings. Anderson might not get any DC points GW4-6
yeah but thats cool though so its allowed
need to get on the battlefield beta
Like I'm really curious to see if 7m type options become pointless
Oh I will dw
havent played it yet, any good
U still riding malen?
york?
Could see it being 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 with budget cuts for guns and cbit merchants
Why on my head did I think it looked similar to this 
idk im busy this weekend i wont be able 
Ye
does tbf
I'll have all day Monday 
but seems like EA havnt ruined it yet
Hoping for Rogers
interesting
dont wanna be that guy but its only open the weekend i believe
they hate people who work in hospo

I wish Harry Wilson was starting
will he not be?
I toured Nottingham & sister went to York so my brain probably got fried
Im locked. I have a Rogers team and non Rogers team. No more tinkering
No one knows is the thing, he didnt last season
Friday 8pm here. I work 6am-2pm. Get up at 4am. Walk to work. Is about a 40 minute walk. Usually just run a fair bit of it. Helps deal with the winter weather. Anyway, off topic
wait a minute i know where this is...
lmao
timezones are fucked these days, even my trusty GMT has been ruined
I have 2 drafts as well, but don't like no Rogers 
he should get the start in the first few i assume
u should have met up with me smh



