road to 200k messages

[latent depot]

@slim bane thread rename when

[slim bane]

road to OR1

[violet temple]

thread getting deleted today unfortunately

[wanton whale]

newcastle equals avoid

[slim bane]

steelix doesnt want to win fpl apparently

[wanton whale]

we need a new thread anyways

[quick dawn]

no

[wanton whale]

too many people in here

[violet temple]

reached the 100k goal already should start a new one where hopefully these absolutely insane smart ppl aren't there

[hollow ermine]

Well potency if branth is injured and he has to play with Keane tbh

[wanton whale]

haha thanks!

[violet temple]

no u can be there in the new one unc dw

[hollow ermine]

Would love a thread where there’s no numbers

Just vibes

[violet temple]

create one!

[hollow ermine]

I know #fpl_chat exists but

[hollow ermine]

Not running the risk of creating thread just for it to flop and for me to be clowned forever

[obtuse shoal]

So many in here have vdv. But is he truly nailed? Seems like danso could easily start over him.

[violet temple]

vdv is miles clear of danso so yeah

[zealous forum]

When he's fit he's nailed

Vdv is great

[hollow ermine]

Only issue is you’re only hoping for cs points with him

Bar that he got nothing

[covert dagger]

Like me?

[lone glade]

road to OR1 😭 never happening

[slim bane]

Thread not getting deleted then

[trail forum]

Ohhhh it hit 100k

Thought this was a replacement thread

[hollow ermine]

Nobody hit CBIT today btw

Closest was danso with 9

[broken patio]

Preseason friendlies innit

Lower intensity and all that

[novel harbor]

[broken patio]

Remember the dele Alli preseason that made us pick him over son?

That went well

[slim bane]

Not even sorted wtf

[broken patio]

Wish there was a table like that that includes cs, defcon, attacking returns, and bonus

[slim bane]

sorted by the useless metric

Smh

[silent jasper]

just to check, for 6.5M price bracket mid, which is the best option? Currently I have Ndiaye but not sure if it's good consider most of us might not have him

[acoustic edge]

strand larsen fwd

[broken patio]

Rogers

[novel harbor]

i rly dont know why he tweeted that

[acoustic edge]

or .5 and rogers/ semen

[novel harbor]

just stating the obvious

[broken patio]

If fh6 then Mitoma has sexy fixtures for 6.5

But, biased

[novel harbor]

like all he did was reinforce dc strategy by sending this

"6/10 scored more from G/A than DC" 🥀

[silent jasper]

Ok thanks

[silent jasper]

have him yeah

[prime plinth]

Fr

[prime plinth]

Everton away and City is pretty rough though

Ig not so bad if branthwaite is out

[cedar hull]

Ndiaye or sarr, I prefer sarr

[silent jasper]

ok thanks! is it too much if I doubled up with Mateta?
Consider Palace's fixture might not be that good

[quick dawn]

i wouldnt double palace attack

i kinda wanna get saka

no salah no palmer surely that works out

[wanton whale]

No

[quick dawn]

everyones forgetting palmer blanked for half the season

[wanton whale]

That was last season

He’s still the second best premium with those fixtures

[quick dawn]

you know you cant just predict what will happen

most years the template ends up not being good compared to other players

[wanton whale]

What?

I’m stating his fixtures

[cedar hull]

I'm on the same rn albeit not a serious draft, 2nd best 7.5 and best 6.5 mid imo, so i don't think a double up is necessarily bad

Assets are individual after all

[broken patio]

We're choosing to forget that

Also

At the very end of last season and in the cwc maresca looked like he went back to the system that gave Palmer so much joy before

And the fix are there

Hate having 2 palace and 0 Brighton in my team

Fully expect us to finish above palace too

[surreal ocean]

whats this then

[lavish parcel]

Just go Brighton gk then

[surreal ocean]

secret thread

[broken patio]

Sadly we are a dog shit defence

Also verbruggen looks like he'll miss the start of the season anyway

[silent jasper]

hmm true, thank you!

[violet temple]

?

heard he's back already why would he miss the start

[broken patio]

Maybe I ootl but I heard he was injured

Didn't play yesterday

[lavish parcel]

Any games today?

[surreal ocean]

bruno could go really big this season

[zenith jolt]

yea playing 6 behind mbeumo and cunha

[cedar hull]

But cbit tho

[surreal ocean]

his cbits are really good

[novel harbor]

bruno will become essential by first few gws

watch

[surreal ocean]

36% hit rate last season

[novel harbor]

think it was 33 no?

[cedar hull]

Said the review buyer

[surreal ocean]

my data and fpl's are different

[novel harbor]

i swear im not going off review

[surreal ocean]

trust george

[novel harbor]

i only share tarkowski, watkins, sanchez, and esteve with review

currently

havent even made the switch to bruno

[surreal ocean]

also I work out my hit rate differently

[novel harbor]

wym

[cedar hull]

You first mentioned Bruno the same time review launched

[surreal ocean]

im not counting 15 min appearances as potential for a hit

[novel harbor]

correlation

not causation

bruno caught my eye from a tweet that wasnt even about bruno actually

but it made me think bruno would be great

[cedar hull]

[surreal ocean]

how would I get him in though is the problem

drop vvd

eh

drop watkins

eh

[novel harbor]

i think its just wirtz or bruno and at the start of the season im leaning towards wirtz

[broken patio]

@novel harbor have you bought review?

[surreal ocean]

jade can you review all of our teams

[novel harbor]

yup

[novel harbor]

whats the point

[cedar hull]

It's now time for jade to become a content creator

[novel harbor]

havent even put my own team in review yet

[surreal ocean]

and we're all on as guests

[quick dawn]

review josh king

[novel harbor]

dont think they've factored him starting

is he meant to be?\

they've got him at 6 xMins

[quick dawn]

dunno maybe

[latent depot]

is Josh King the real deal

obv had no idea who he was until yesterday

[carmine arch]

what prick changed the name

[latent depot]

Ayy's thread, he can do what he likes, but the new name is dumb tbf

[carmine arch]

@slim bane change it back.

[latent depot]

also aren't we all technically OR1 right now

[earnest torrent]

i assumed our OR at the start are our team ids we got

[slim bane]

road to 200k messages

[acoustic edge]

feel like shit just want wissa to leave brentford so i can go thiago watkins in peace

[violet temple]

Thiago watkins does sound really good

Instead of 2 7.5s

[surreal ocean]

have you tried watkins & two 4.5s

[acoustic edge]

that and VDV are my two wait and sees

want VDV for the .5 as budget is dog but he could die immediately

[acoustic edge]

but yeah thistbh

[slim bane]

Arias benched

[violet temple]

Kinda sad are they running their best 11?

[slim bane]

Looks strong

[violet temple]

Yeah is strong

[lone thorn]

Agbadou

[wanton whale]

nah arias will be first choice surely

[acoustic edge]

rmt

[violet temple]

Amazing/10

Can't see much that's wrong

maybe bruno but that's argueable I guess

very similar to mine

[acoustic edge]

w mod

might drop raya to sanchez and bump up the keeper to bb

[wanton whale]

prefer 4.5 keeper and upgrading that defense

[cedar hull]

Review doesn't like that

[wanton whale]

is triocta a review merchant?👀

[acoustic edge]

caught gg

[wanton whale]

bruno gave it away

[acoustic edge]

but idk there’s a rotation

[acoustic edge]

cbirts 😔😔😔😔

[cedar hull]

Andersen + esteve + spurs Def is pretty much review

Teams fine though

And ofc Bruno/ndiaye for pens

[frank mulch]

Bro has that review brainrot

[acoustic edge]

i’m coming first yk

[cedar hull]

Plus review likes thiago because he gets pens if wissa leaves

[frank mulch]

You can’t come first if you copy a robot that everyone else will copy

[acoustic edge]

i’ll make it up in the aggregate

gotta get high enough to make a living posting twitter threads

[frank mulch]

Surprised you don’t have sanchez tho

[acoustic edge]

long term potential

[frank mulch]

Ur family’s got you sorted

[acoustic edge]

thanks bro 🔥

[novel harbor]

8/10

[keen wren]

Review spotted

oh rawand saw

[broken patio]

Gang

[violet temple]

Yeah I got sanchez for now too

[broken patio]

I like Raya for late wildcard, probably the best keeper for wc13

Don't understand him for wc7

[valid river]

Surprised people are on solanke

Just get wood and call it a day until we know how good the unknowns are

[broken patio]

Wood would be my pick from the 7.5s yeah

Also like Bowen and evanilson for similar reasons - they're known quantities

Or just go 451 with Watkins :)

[valid river]

I tempted fate for Solanke over wood and triple forest attack

But I think I prefer tarkovski to Milenkovic slightly and def wood over solanke

But imagine the upside of triple forest defense 🤤

[orchid plank]

One Thiago pen is all it takes in gw1

[lone thorn]

i have Solanke rn but not even played yet in preszn is worrying, Wood might be the play

[hollow ermine]

More useless tark prop

[hollow ermine]

I disagree

I don’t have any reasoning but I just disagree

[novel harbor]

[hollow ermine]

Thread survived?

Fs

[novel harbor]

delete at 200k

[hollow ermine]

Should’ve deleted it and made a new one that doesn’t involve numbers at all

[novel harbor]

i dont think it will say (200k+) so someones gonna have to count

[hollow ermine]

Just pure bias and vibes

[novel harbor]

every message from now on

[hollow ermine]

They’ll just never delete it

They want to keep this place elite

Smh

Rich always separating themselves from the masses

#Boycott the top 10k

[valid river]

Would y'all start konsa vs Brentford or Baleba vs Everton gw2

[lavish parcel]

Esteve vs SUN

10 cbit + cs

[valid river]

Good plan goat

I think if Solanke play 45-60 vs bayern, I might get him

Doubt it tho

I'm bench boosting for Konsa bro I needed someone who could play gw 2&5 lol

[latent depot]

Solanke out for me

Maddison injury

going 451 with Watkins

Bournemouth having to field their back up pivots

[lone thorn]

who replaces Maddi?

[cedar hull]

Why are keepers and fwds so shit

[acoustic edge]

wirtzpilled

[acoustic edge]

raya watkins thiago ezpz

[cedar hull]

Sarr/bergvall/bentancur to start

[cedar hull]

Yeah but besides Raya it's genuinely a wasteland imo

[latent depot]

Thiago

[cedar hull]

Don't like the 5.0s

[acoustic edge]

evanilson off at 69

sanchez and sa both seem fine

[cedar hull]

Semi tempted at an outside shout of vicario but eh

[lone thorn]

would Kudus play am? Odbert + BJ on the wings

[acoustic edge]

esp for gw7 wc

[cedar hull]

SA plays for wolves if you've forgotten

Sanchez is dog shit too

[cedar hull]

Plausible but unlikely and not needed

[acoustic edge]

sels sorry

they all blend

[cedar hull]

Palhinha and bissouma are still there so they have the depth

[acoustic edge]

sanchez is fine no, chelsea top 3 for xgc in 2025 last szn

[cedar hull]

Yeah Sels is fine but like Murillo and milenkovic are there and I'm not tripling

[orchid plank]

Need that 4.0 Kinsky to nail the no1 spot

[valid river]

Double

[acoustic edge]

wait drop team

[latent depot]

gap between 2nd and 3rd is a chasm

[cedar hull]

4th but yeah

And that's cos pool were partying too

[valid river]

I'm praying for tarkovski minutes in 2 hours

Minimum 45 please

[cedar hull]

My draft is half assed cos Im waiting for news

Lemme find it

[latent depot]

Keane better not play

[acoustic edge]

join the 6 pen takers draft

[valid river]

He might

Good pick?

Lol

[acoustic edge]

do u have a bench

[valid river]

Who is branthwaites replacement?

[lavish parcel]

Holy

[acoustic edge]

looks really nice tho lol

[lavish parcel]

Classic cooked with that team

[valid river]

This would be so good if u had no palace players

[cedar hull]

Benda esteve king and guiu I think

[hollow ermine]

Arias ball today

[cedar hull]

Could easily go Sanchez and xhaka or whatever

[lavish parcel]

No Munoz?

[cedar hull]

I'm assuming if pool don't get isak they get a lw

[valid river]

Hes broke

[cedar hull]

So ekitike is safe

[cedar hull]

Lacroix should be 5.5 anyway

[lavish parcel]

I mean if Tark doesn't get mins, it is an option

[cedar hull]

If tark no mins then like Romero and xhaka or smth

[lavish parcel]

Sarr is an interesting one

[valid river]

If Tark doesn't get mins, it's a NFO defensive triple up

[cedar hull]

Like I said not much thought since waiting for news

[lavish parcel]

I am not falling for that Romero propaganda

[cedar hull]

Romero = Collins

[valid river]

Triple NFO defense might be my seasons downfall

[keen wren]

Arias goal @hollow ermine

[hollow ermine]

Tell em to bring me my money

[cedar hull]

Ekitike not getting enough love due to isak

But obv understandable

[hollow ermine]

Brother is ass

[valid river]

They got ragebaited into signing

[hollow ermine]

Cannot vouch for the guy giving his numbers

They’re just not worth

[cedar hull]

Same non pen xg as gyokeres in a harder league

[valid river]

Shows he's a crap finisher

TY

[cedar hull]

He has one underperforming season, career decent finisher though

[hollow ermine]

Top 5 worst xg underperformance in Bundesliga of all places

Plus he’s not really an out n out 9

Not like you’re owning him expecting him to be banging in goals

[valid river]

He's an out and out bum

[hollow ermine]

Just long

[cedar hull]

I think he's a kind of player that will step up his ability to match the team

[hollow ermine]

He’s that kind of player who plays well but doesn’t necessarily translate into fpl points

Like Jackson

Will just be frustrating to own

Either you catch the purple patch or you don’t

[lavish parcel]

I think finding 0.5m to upgrade to Watkins is not a bad idea

[cedar hull]

What's that based on

[cedar hull]

You insult my bench then tell me to find 0.5

[lavish parcel]

I did not 😭

It was them

[valid river]

The possible upside of triple NFO defense is just tempting me

[novel harbor]

[valid river]

Forbidden points

[lone thorn]

a 90m Jackson

[valid river]

It's good

[cedar hull]

Oh palhinhas signed

[valid river]

Yup

[hollow ermine]

His profile, he’s been touted as one of those “play anywhere forwards”, heatmap is spread out, doesn’t particularly have a large number of goals and his minutes before last season were disappointing

Never really been the bagsman and it’ll be hugely impressive if he becomes one

[orchid plank]

Mbeumo debut finally

[hollow ermine]

Hatewatch time finally

[valid river]

Everton lineup out?

[lavish parcel]

Tark

Baby

[hollow ermine]

“Keane”

[lavish parcel]

Fuck

[hollow ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[hollow ermine]

Wait is that a 541

[lavish parcel]

Just hoping nothing happens to Tark

[hollow ermine]

That’s a 541 surely

[cedar hull]

Bournemouth playing amazing yet shit at finishing, it continues

[valid river]

Tark

Wait lowkey

How long is branthwaite out for

Keane for the first 6 😼🔥

[cedar hull]

I've considered Keane yes

[hollow ermine]

Shipping goals for fun idk

[cedar hull]

He is the best 4.5 if branthwaite is out for a while even if he is dogshit

[cedar hull]

They've battered westham just conceded the 2 shots they've had lol

[valid river]

Does anyone have a branthwaite injury analysis?

I'm on WC 7

[lavish parcel]

Shouldn't matter then

[latent depot]

September

[hollow ermine]

Got destroyed by this United side I’m sorry

[valid river]

Oh that's too early

Allgood, Keane was a hilarious idea for a bit

[lavish parcel]

It's not a major injury

[novel harbor]

tarkowski start LFG

[valid river]

Tarkovski masterclass inbound

[lavish parcel]

Bro is gonna score and his ownership is gonna be like 15% tomorrow morning

[cedar hull]

Preseason means fuck all tbh

[valid river]

Where Barry man

[orchid plank]

Cunha Bruno Mbeumo front three btw

[lavish parcel]

Interesting

[slim bane]

@orchid plank Scout United for us

[valid river]

That's very good

[pale tiger]

Cunha striker?

[valid river]

Who's the 9

[orchid plank]

Cunha 9

[valid river]

Omd

We will be there

[latent depot]

I'd say Bournemouth consistenly conceding goals in preseason shows that their new backline needs time, also they're missing their first choice CM/DM pair

[novel harbor]

prepare for knee jerk bruno drafts

[valid river]

Bruno + Solanke > Watkins + Kudus

Gg

[slim bane]

wdym knee jerk

[orchid plank]

Dalot starting over Dorgu aswell

[slim bane]

he’s +EV

[valid river]

We been on bruno

[keen wren]

Dorgu dream is over

[lone thorn]

i've been saying Cunha 9 since he joined, finally

[orchid plank]

Don’t expect him to be there tho

[lone thorn]

he should tho, it facilitates Bruno + Boomo am, and obv way better than Hojlund/Zirkz

[orchid plank]

But it won’t be good in terms of getting the best out of him

He would be much better in the 10

[novel harbor]

[novel harbor]

he’s about to cook i can feel it

[lone thorn]

he would yh, he's an excellent finisher tho as we've all seen, and he's played cf/st for atletico + wolves tbf

if playin Cunha 9 means Bruno 10, that's worth imo

[valid river]

Surely Everton just start the season horribly due to missing branthwaite and Tark is a bad pick?

[lone thorn]

everton always start szn horribly regardless

[valid river]

So why is Tark ever a good pick

[latent depot]

12-13 clean sheets worth of DC points if he plays 38 games

fuck, Keane really is starting

[novel harbor]

[novel harbor]

in cb?

if so thats good

[latent depot]

why's that good?

anyway, if Everton buy a RB, O'Brien can play CB

[valid river]

I just want some everton CS in the first 6 tho

[latent depot]

and Keane can fuck off

[novel harbor]

hes a solid defcon pick

decent for a short term pick

until branth back

[valid river]

Rodon CS + DC gw1 , we will be there

[latent depot]

Keane will cost them clean sheets

[valid river]

Which is so annoying

[novel harbor]

he also gets the odd g/a

[lavish parcel]

Everton just needs to buy a RB please I beg

[valid river]

I'm sure Tark will get 2 CS in the first 6

[lavish parcel]

Have they got anyone new this year?

[latent depot]

if they buy James Justin as rumoured, O'Brien can partner Tark at CB until Branthwaite returns

[pale tiger]

Just new Left back and striker

Aznou and Barry

[latent depot]

Everton are so mid

[novel harbor]

not even complaining if ppl wanna take out tark go for it 😭

[lavish parcel]

Tbf, Branthwaite is gonna be back soon so I shouldn't even be worried there

Just get through the first 2-3 games and then it's just massive upside

[valid river]

Hmmmm

Tark seems such a 50/50 pick

[orchid plank]

How has he done that then

[lavish parcel]

Bro got stretched off today

😭

Wishing him a speedy recovery tho

[wanton whale]

this guy is the biggest meme

jinxs everything

[valid river]

What if I just got rid of tarkovski because hes probs scoring 4,3,2,4

0 cs

[lavish parcel]

It's impossible to predict that

[valid river]

Everton look like bums

[lavish parcel]

The game hasn't even started yet

Smh

[valid river]

Last few games they've been mudded

[lavish parcel]

Tark didn't play

[valid river]

He did like 30

I'm just weary of a non branthwaite team

[lavish parcel]

20 vs West Ham
0 vs Bournemouth
0 vs Blackburn

He is starting today

There's hope

[valid river]

Kinsky played 90 right?

[acoustic edge]

yeah

[broken patio]

GANG

451 Watkins is the way

[zenith jolt]

idk what ill do if both solanke and wissa are duds

[broken patio]

You go 451 with Watkins

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/nyet967100-jean-philippe-mateta-phatearl-crystal-palace-gif-7260117091681771051

[broken patio]

Or that

[wanton whale]

him or wood tbh

[lavish parcel]

Man utd penalty already

Bruno scored 1-0

Tarkowski foul on Amad

😭

[cedar hull]

that still counts as a cbit

lets fucking go

[lavish parcel]

So silly from Tark

He intercepted and then fouled him so I guess +1 interception

But yeah Tark is farming cbit already

Blocks, Interception and Clearance are crazy from him

[novel harbor]

and its begun

[wanton whale]

first 3 tweets i see

[novel harbor]

like a moth to a flame

[wanton whale]

tbfff you could argue bruno > watkins

[novel harbor]

you could

i wouldnt tho

i think this is the best period to own watkins

i dont plan on owning him past gw7

im pretty much betting on the first few gameweeks being his boom

gw3-gw7 for villa is arguably top 2 fixture runs of the first half of the season imo

[valid river]

Okay surely Bruno is a lock

[wanton whale]

yeah the fixtures are amazing

[valid river]

I'm not results oriented or anything

[novel harbor]

right

[valid river]

😼

Also tarkovski has to be a shite pick right

[novel harbor]

yeee remove him from ur team asap

[latent depot]

Everton makes every opponent look good tbf

[valid river]

Like if there's not a good chance of cs and they look mid

So why own Tark when there's better options

Like Milenkovic

[novel harbor]

tarkowski is a set and forget for me he wont leave my team

[novel harbor]

there arent

you dont even want milenkovic for cs, its the opposite

you want milenkovic when forest concede

you want murillo for forest cs

milenkovic scores and gets the majority of his cbit when forest have conceded

[cedar hull]

thought bruno had scored a brace or smth but its one pen

[novel harbor]

literally

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-review-po-gif-5308852

[latent depot]

Tark is the only player to get DC points in 2/3 of starts, nobody else is close. That's 12-13 clean sheets worth of points in 38 games. If Everton keep 7-8 clean sheets and he gets his usual 2-3 attacking returns, then he's great value

Everton have somehow kept 13 and 12 clean sheets last 2 seasons

Despite never looking like it

[supple steeple]

wow, a team with Dyche as manager kept clean sheets

[valid river]

But no duche

[latent depot]

You looked atrocious before Moyes last season

But after Moyes, Everton were third best defence on xGA and actual goals conceded despite playing an extra (postponed) game vs Liverpool

[valid river]

I hate how you're right

[supple steeple]

we did, yeah

[valid river]

But they look like they're conceding 1000 this season

[supple steeple]

still kept 7 CS under Dyche

5 after Moyes took over

[valid river]

Ndiaye goal

[latent depot]

Once you sign James Justin, I can breathe easy about Tark

[latent depot]

😂 trap is set

[valid river]

Is that deal close

[hollow ermine]

Consistent 4 pointers while my 6 4 17 out scores

[supple steeple]

just any right back that isnt 40 or named Patterson

[hollow ermine]

Patterson isn’t that bad

[supple steeple]

and a RW that isnt Jack Harrison

Patterson is horrendous

[valid river]

I want to believe in Tark

[novel harbor]

no keep pushing anti tark propaganda

[valid river]

Hmm

I don't want Solanke to get mins, makes my decisions easier

[lavish parcel]

I genuinely want to revert back to WC7

[valid river]

I'm on it

Wc13 better but I'm not waiting that long

[lavish parcel]

Start off with one arsenal def and pool attacker, make the most out of the teams with good fix until GW7 and then WC into double arsenal, double pool and a city player

Spurs, Villa, Bowen, Collins, Tark, Palmer, Salah, Murillo, Milenkovic, Anderson

[hollow ermine]

I just can’t feel at ease

[wanton whale]

myko off injured as well aparently

not a bad one but

[valid river]

Tark will good

Still

[lavish parcel]

He's literally on the pitch

[keen wren]

spreading misinformation smh

[lavish parcel]

Warra helper

[novel harbor]

bruno assist

[valid river]

Yeah he's a lock

Bruno > Watkins

[novel harbor]

[lone thorn]

yes guys pls spend 9m on Bruno

[valid river]

Is everton defense looking good

[humble dust]

[wanton whale]

Bro I got told by aykan he was injured

[prime plinth]

Couldn't be me

[prime plinth]

But he gets cbit bro

Am I cooking

Everton only score offside

[prime plinth]

This why i said i can't go tark

[prime plinth]

Wasn't branthwaite out also under dyche

[lone thorn]

is Rodon 4m?

[slim bane]

Yes

[lone thorn]

hard to call who plays atb for leeds tho

[humble dust]

played 46 out of 46 championship tbf

[slim bane]

He’s probably the next 4.0 to choose after esteve

Depends on which gw you need cover for

[lone thorn]

yh, Struijk and just bought Bijol + Bornauw for 24m

[lone thorn]

Hartman lowkey, if he's first choice which i'm sure he will be, burnley lb was great for feye

[lavish parcel]

I don't think Scott Parker LBs are that great

They provide some offense but not like crazy

Robinson under Scott Parker barely did anything

But then Marco Silva took charge and Robinson is among the best LB in the league

Offensively and Defensively as well

I am actually looking at West Ham LB Diouf

Under Potter, they just conceded like 21-22 goals

Which is crazy

Compared to almost half under Lopetegui

[supple steeple]

it will never look good with Keane on the pitch

MAYBE if its a back 3 with Branth and Tarko there too

[valid river]

Man

I'm so lost with making a draft now

I'm debating VDV vs Konsa for gw 1,2,5

[marsh palm]

When are you bench boosting with this

[valid river]

Dream defense

W

[marsh palm]

I’ve done it @novel harbor

I’ve created the BB1 team

[valid river]

Oh hell nah

That stinks

Want to see a real BB1 team?

[marsh palm]

0 flaws dont @ me

But on a serious note I don’t see anything wrong

[marsh palm]

I’m targeting a WC13

[valid river]

This is a true team

[marsh palm]

Legit the same formula just different players

Give it a rest

[valid river]

Nuh uh

I mean yes

But you have some stinkers

For wc13 it's good tho

[marsh palm]

Who are stinkers I can’t replace tho

Everyone who’s expensive is good for a while and the stickers can be transferred early

I have no intention of touching this team until GW4

[slim bane]

And missing all the price rises

Hell nah

The only time when prices are actually more volatile

[marsh palm]

I’m not predicting the future

[slim bane]

That’s why you cannot commit to not making transfers

[marsh palm]

If something comes up and it’s obvious to capitalize on it I will

I mean but do you think my team isn’t fluid?

Anderson is probably the really good price raise

[valid river]

I don't want to make a transfer til gw5 but once nottingham let in 8 vs Brentford I may just WC

[marsh palm]

Wait did u mean short term?

I mean regardless this is my first season playing FPL

I played CWC and CL

[lavish parcel]

I actually have Wirtz for that exact reason, bro is going to be 8.6/8.7 after the Bournemouth game

[marsh palm]

UCL was super casual CWC I finished top 9k

[valid river]

I don't like LaCroix due to the gw4 fix

I'm FH4 so will get him eventually

[marsh palm]

I need to plan out my FH

I know i’m gonna BB1 and WC13 no matter what team I end up with by the end of the deadline

TC is obviously fluid

[valid river]

Just so it when ars play liv or salahs injured for 1-2 weeks

[valid river]

Wc13 is harder than u think

[marsh palm]

I’m building a team around my wildcards not my wildcards around my team

[valid river]

U miss out on a lot

[marsh palm]

Yeah but the fixture swing is so big

[valid river]

Sure

Still hard

[marsh palm]

You turn your team into a MCI+LIV+NEW dominated team

Then you have 5 transfers assuming Salah is still king to make your team deeper

Or if Haaland is your guy you can try him Palmer and Saka if everything is firing

This is my alternate team for GW1

[valid river]

Don't touch Saka lil vro

Bro

[marsh palm]

Way weaker defensive but Gakpo and Malen can increase the potential of this team tenfold

Wood for Solanke I think

[marsh palm]

I know he doesn’t have optimal fixtures

He’s still likely the pen taker to start the season

Has super high non penalty xg+xa anyway

And will have way more space to operate with a proper striker

[valid river]

If you believe boss

[valid river]

I've gone drunk off CBIT

[lone glade]

Ndiaye scored 😈

[slim bane]

And got booked

[valid river]

Would we rather Kudus and Konsa or Tarkovski and Caicedo

I would play 442 with Tark

[marsh palm]

@novel harbor Just turned Thiago into Mayenda Kelleher into Verbruggen and Williams into Milenkovic to maximize BB1 potential

[marsh palm]

B

[valid river]

Are we all off Kudus

[silent jasper]

For me yeah

[marsh palm]

Yeah

Does DEFCON make a guy like Tarkowsi more valuable against Liverpool than Welbeck against Spurs?

[valid river]

Probs

[lavish parcel]

For me yes

Even if it's not spurs yes

Welbeck is mins risk

And somewhat a rotation risk too

If Tark is fit, that's almost 4 points every game

[valid river]

True

[lavish parcel]

It'll help you long-term as well

[valid river]

My team is horrible now btw

[lavish parcel]

It was never good anyways

Jk your team is better than mine

[valid river]

:(

[lavish parcel]

Collins Vlad Kelleher trio is looking so hot ngl might do it

Triple Brentford in 2025

[valid river]

Bench boosting is impossible without 3 expensive forwards

There's no 5.0-5.5 that works on a bb

[acoustic edge]

just hope guiu plays

no other option iwl

[valid river]

I'm cooking something, idk what tho

[lavish parcel]

Just keep in mind that you don't get outscored by the majority of people while making a BB team

You'll be chasing a lot of managers with one less chip to play with

[valid river]

True

[lavish parcel]

And not just outscored but even on par is a little bit tough

[valid river]

The forwards suck this year

[lavish parcel]

You'll be forced into WC sooner than expected

[valid river]

At the start at least

[lavish parcel]

I hate BB1

[valid river]

I like it because you cannot afford to make a BB team later

[lavish parcel]

I'll probably be wise and use my saved up 5 FTs and use salah as a cash cow to fill other positions and then WC asap

[valid river]

I'm not WC into a bb team

[novel harbor]

looks good

[valid river]

I will be keeping a close eye on Spurs vs bayern

For Solanke specifically

[novel harbor]

review is pushing reijnders now

[lone thorn]

copying my flow bruh

i was pushing him weeks ago

[novel harbor]

i mean once again i dont see why hes being pushed he isnt good for cbit and hes surely rotation risk? they have his xMins quite high tho

which is interesting

[lone thorn]

we'll see if he getsthe mins he'll be great

i don't have him tho

city players give me headache

[novel harbor]

@torn aurora

not necessarily the case

[hollow ermine]

Honestly

I have no qualm with the bb1 idea

But how does anyone see that bench and feel comfortable using a whole ass chip on it

[acoustic edge]

when else are u using it tho

and if u plan for it (in a single week when it’ll suck ass anyway) you’re bleeding points

[novel harbor]

think we can afford to be liberal with certain chips this season

tho im more into bb2

[hollow ermine]

If I’m reading this well, this the number of chit the opponents players get on average when they play a certain team

[novel harbor]

best opponents to play defenders/midfielders against to maximise CBIT potential ye

was replying to this

[marsh palm]

Because I dont need more then 8-10 points from my BB to be satisfied with its use

I have a plan to get Arsenal into the mix by gameweek 8 and it includes a FH7

Hell I can even afford to BB2 or BB3

BB3 looks good since i’m heavy in Forest and Villa

Wow BB3 looks enticing

It’s the versatility I have, its a robust team that wont need a lot of transferring

Can probably get some value from the price raises early on and then chill until my FH7

BBing either 1 or 3 leaning 3 fixture wise for sure

[latent depot]

Burnley want Dubravka 👀

Imagine Kinsky/Dubravka rotation

[keen wren]

Kinsky won’t start

[torn aurora]

Well, vs low block team, no cbit

[valid river]

How much is dubravka

[lone glade]

4

[valid river]

Damn

[quick dawn]

havent changed my haaland draft in a couple days

[novel harbor]

so like west ham and everton?

and kind of forest with their low-mid block

[novel harbor]

doesnt seem to be the case given the stats i sent

but it depends

oh and brentford

[twin ice]

2-3 CBITs in the first 7-8 games looking at previous seasons not good enough for me when it comes to the heavy farmers

[novel harbor]

7/8 for tarkowski, 4/8 for murillo

but ye i like the porro pick early

[twin ice]

right, you're using fixtures

[novel harbor]

as one should

[twin ice]

yeah I don't know if implying the same fixture this season is going to be the same as the fixture last season is the way to go

[novel harbor]

im not sure what implies thats the value of looking at the same fixtures

[novel harbor]

this however is complete pattern-seeking with no actual mechanism at all

implying theres some universal "defenders are bad at CBIT early season" rule is handwavy to me idk. its just specific contextual factors.

[twin ice]

contextual factors will also apply to fixture chasing

[novel harbor]

which noone disagrees with

however there is much more of an actual mechanism behind players going against the same teams than there is playing football in august vs october 👍

[twin ice]

both are mechanisms

you just like one more

which is fine

[novel harbor]

im still yet to hearing the mechanism for the latter

from what it sounds you havent really thought out why this is even the case, just observed it (which is why i called it pattern-seeking)

[twin ice]

maybe Everton have more pre season jolly ups than other teams, whatever, fixture chasing is also pattern seeking

[novel harbor]

whos fixture chasing

[novel harbor]

i mean maybe, sounds dubious to me thats all

[twin ice]

fair enough, I'm not here to change people's minds

[novel harbor]

my guess would've been that for example with lacroix myb palace's early fixtures werent as good statistically for cbit or he took time to adapt to new role/teammates

but i havent checked

[twin ice]

Lacroix's was kinda decent but only started games at GW4

if fixtures last season were replicated then your Tarkowski pick is getting 5/8 CBITs

[latent depot]

Everton 0 clean sheets in preseason

if they don't sign a RB immediately and fail to keep a clean sheet vs Roma, I might ditch Tark

[novel harbor]

i was doing first 5 fixtures:

leeds - not gonna count but we can average cbit scores from last years promoted and get 10
brighton - 9, 16
wolves - 11, 10
villa - 14, 10
pool - 11, 18

hence the 7/8

[latent depot]

4/3/8/3/bench/4 points or something like that

[novel harbor]

the actual points are kind of unimportant

[latent depot]

yeah 4.5ppm is still good

[novel harbor]

imo

to an extent anyway

[novel harbor]

west ham - 11, 8
palace - 19, 19
city - 7 (52' sub), 18

but no by all means go without him

lol wtf 85% of games with 4+ points in 21/22

[latent depot]

tbf the replacement would be Neco for GW1-3 cos those midtable fix are prime CBIT farming for NFO

[quick dawn]

ive found a new potential bench option

potts from west ham

[novel harbor]

interestingly enough, palace never conceded 10+ CBIT to a left back last season albeit very few left backs actually have CBIT potential

[latent depot]

I'm just fishing for 0.5 somewhere to afford Wirtz it's very unlikely that I drop Tark, bro has been in every draft

[hollow ermine]

[latent depot]

FBREF thinks Neco got 10 CBITs vs Palace

Neco wasn't close to DC points in either game vs Brentford tho

19 CBITs vs Bowen makes sense

[latent depot]

he played at WB for 1 game for 6 CBITs, so he's bad for DCs in a 352

[hollow ermine]

So against palace people hardly ever get cbit? As full backs?

[humble dust]

Ayari cooking

[hollow ermine]

So against spurs people hit cbit more?

[latent depot]

24/25 Spurs stats are irrelavant

no more Angeball

[novel harbor]

ye i also just saw this too, he got 11 according to fotmob which puts the infographic into question. might ask the op about it

oh wait no

i accidentally counted recoveries

he got 9

close

still holds that no left back hit defcon against palace

is fbref powered by opta?

[novel harbor]

ya

[latent depot]

it's slightly off from DC points, but never more than 1

[novel harbor]

same with lacroix

[latent depot]

how far is richards off lacroix need that 0.5 for Wirtz

[novel harbor]

38% hit rate for richards 48.6% for lacroix

richards got very poor cbit numbers for this seasons opening fixtures last season

didn’t hit once for first 5

chelsea - 6,6
forest - 9
villa - 7
sunderland - average against last seasons promoted teams was 9.7 so 10
west ham - 1,8

[latent depot]

might have to be Kelleher and pray for a 10 pointer in the first 6

10/3/3/2/2/1 would be great

[sterile tree]

10 vs sunderland looks about right

[quick dawn]

go wirtz and gakpo

[novel harbor]

i wish rodri was 6mil :/

6.5 is too expensive

[quick dawn]

not rly if he gets typical returns

[humble dust]

6.5 is fair

[novel harbor]

idk i dont think it is

i get it tho

[twin ice]

death to CBIT man

[hollow ermine]

@broken patio Ayari idea dead, rotates horribly with palace and spurs

[hollow ermine]

Cucu first

[hollow ermine]

You own Porro you’re a cbit Gooner you’re not fooling anyone

[twin ice]

Porro has some set pieces and attacking nous

the other 3 are in there on a technicaliteh (Andy Tate voice)

Milenkovic/Diouf/Mitoma all more fun but CBIT has killed that

[latent depot]

Who is Potts

Also there's King at Fulham

Who actually starts

[twin ice]

Potts is the new guy being hyped to start

[hollow ermine]

Highest cbit source from spurs

You are a nerd

Don’t form here

[twin ice]

you the one bringing it up not me

[hollow ermine]

Say swear you didn’t consider cbit when picking Porro and I’ll apologise

[twin ice]

swear down

[hollow ermine]

Fairs

Sorry tat

[novel harbor]

porro is good for cbit?

[twin ice]

I'd rather your shame than an apology

but truthfully I want nothing at all from you

[hollow ermine]

Thank you tat

You brighten my day

[twin ice]

so he's starting XI now or what

[cedar hull]

I don't see why you're taking so much thought on preseason, it statistically doesn't matter and doesn't tend to gw1, so why does it matter if everton haven't kept a clean sheet?

[novel harbor]

[twin ice]

right I need a helper, should I go CBIT strat like the normies in here or should I try and have fun?

[wanton whale]

define 'fun'

[cedar hull]

There's no way to have fun in FPL regardless mate

[novel harbor]

can have fun while playing cbit. thats why i've gone with 3 floor defenders + 1 ceiling defender

[cedar hull]

I personally don't care about any preseason results and only going off fitness and injuries

[twin ice]

@wanton whale as seen in this team I'm clearly targeting the boring but consistent drip of 2 extra points (though not from the start of the season)

where as here I have instead -

Milenkovic - big head ball in net
Diouf - put it in mixer
Mitoma - dribbling thesis merchant

[cedar hull]

But fwiw the way I see it I don't have to touch my defence til wc

[twin ice]

see I dont know about that, would rather celebrate Mitoma skin a player over a Tarkowski headed clearance

[twin ice]

I'd love to do that

[novel harbor]

didnt know those things were mutually exclusive

[humble dust]

shame you dont get points when mitoma does that tho

[twin ice]

but never know when the wildcard itch hits

[novel harbor]

i actually have a mitoma + tarkowski draft

[wanton whale]

i mean it looks fine

[novel harbor]

which makes this even funnier

[twin ice]

right but it's 3 vs 3 in this context instead of just those two

[wanton whale]

west ham defenders huge traps tho

[novel harbor]

myb, myb not

wan bissaka is tho imo ye

and that de cuyper

i can see other defenders being great tho

[cedar hull]

At least Chelsea are giving us fodder options

[novel harbor]

at 4.5

[wanton whale]

raptor aint fooling anyone

[twin ice]

which one does

[novel harbor]

isnt he on a haaland draft

[wanton whale]

nah but he just happens to pick anderson and dorgu rotation the day after review 👀

[wanton whale]

i havent seen your other team

[twin ice]

it's basically Murillo/Neco/Tark instead of Milenkovic/Diouf/Mitoma

[novel harbor]

dorgu seems to be independent from review?

isnt dalot the review pick

[wanton whale]

fulham and united rotation basically

[novel harbor]

tho as of today its changed

completely

the review defence is neco, colwill, porro, esteve, andersen rn

[wanton whale]

i mean I'd prefer 1 myself, set and forget defense >

[twin ice]

yeah that's the general consensus I feel

[cedar hull]

Also think we gotta have at least 2 pool attackers to gain anything from th best attack in the league

Which means wirtz/gakpo/ekitike

[wanton whale]

watkins or bruno?

[cedar hull]

Seems like a lot of the picks are picking themselves now

[twin ice]

Watkins easy

that's something I have no doubt about

[twin ice]

What do you think about Gakpo vs Bowen

[wanton whale]

im actually struggling to find a 4.5 defender id happily play most weeks

[violet temple]

Wirtz seems like the most nailed one there assuming they get isak of course

[wanton whale]

they wont i think

[cedar hull]

Gakpo clears imo, Bowen not even on pens now that paqueta is back and reverse oop

[cedar hull]

Of course, but doesn't diminish the other options

[violet temple]

does it not tho?

gakpo ekitike could very well rotate lw if they sign isak

forget that I don't even think we know who'll start lw

[latent depot]

It's obv nice to have, what's so hard to understand? Everton shat the bed last 2 preseasons and started both seasons badly, it's not a red herring

[little delta]

surely people looking at bruno now?

[cedar hull]

Isak hasn't joined yet, so I'm not considering that

[violet temple]

reason being?

[violet temple]

Yeah I guess it's not done yet at least

[latent depot]

Preseason is more of a be skeptical of good performance, but consider bad performance as relevant. I.e. good performance vs low intensity is something to beware of, but bad performance vs low intensity is sus

[violet temple]

I may be on gakpo

[cedar hull]

Liverpool lost to ac yet we still find a triple up viable palace are doing great yet you don't like them much, preseason just doesn't matter

[violet temple]

If they don't sign isak

[latent depot]

Let's not put Liverpool and Everton in the same tier of context

That's conflation

[cedar hull]

You can't just pick and choose that's confirmation bias

The only reason not to pick tark as of now is branthwaite which is perfectly reasonable

[latent depot]

I've been consistent in saying that Tark is in my squad, it's reasonable to rigorously question if that's correct

If Keane starts the upside is much less

[cedar hull]

That's a different issue to whether they have kept clean sheets in preseason or not

[latent depot]

How is that different

The upside is clean sheets

The floor is well established

[quick dawn]

dalot shouldnt even play

dorgu is ok for attacking threat

[latent depot]

Announce James Justin to Everton

[cerulean cape]

I might not own tark

Michael Keane existing is yikes

[quick dawn]

still will get the cbits so idm that much

they can play patterson rb btw but he seems out of favour

[slim bane]

Dorgu idea surely died aft he was benched ytd

[quick dawn]

idk i mean pre season isnt always informative

villa are just playing random teams

[cerulean cape]

Villa same manager same team

Will be fine

Kept emi

Also forgot palace had EL play offs

[quick dawn]

douglas luiz to forest?

[cerulean cape]

More reason to fade palace early

[quick dawn]

well i wanted to sell him tbh

[cerulean cape]

Great signing

[quick dawn]

he wasnt good last league season

[cerulean cape]

Yea

[quick dawn]

we cant sell anyone

ramsey is the only one who could leave it seems

luiz will be smth like 5.5 right

[humble dust]

not really, still came on for 45

[quick dawn]

anything wrong with this apart from people not liking haaland

[violet temple]

Woah @cedar hull It really works

[cedar hull]

I'm sure you put it to good use

[cerulean cape]

What works

[violet temple]

yeah might do it on the ones that talk in big paragraphs and shit

[violet temple]

Ignore feature

it's like blocking them without them knowing I've blocked them

🔥

[cerulean cape]

It is new

It is better than block

Blocked messages still show up

[violet temple]

already putting it to good use 😎

[cedar hull]

Can't wait for steelix to ignore my paragraphs about caveman

[violet temple]

nah I told u its not for u lol

[quick dawn]

troglodyte>caveman

[violet temple]

mainly only for one person tbh

who's caveman

[cedar hull]

Some useless model I made

Just ignore it you'll do better without it

[violet temple]

I'm running a 3atb I don't think ur model would be very helpful for me tbh

[quick dawn]

if i could be bothered to log on to my laptop id try base cost adjusted vapm (dont tell mcgrr)

[cedar hull]

Wdym by that

Compared to their price last year?

[violet temple]

classiic u running a 4atb?

[cedar hull]

Or compared to effective value over 4/4.5

[quick dawn]

the base cost is 4 or 4.5 so gakpo really costs 3 mil of budget and salah costs 10 mil of budget

yeah

[cedar hull]

Right now yeah but haven't made a serious draft since waiting for news

[quick dawn]

salah costs like 30% of true budget

[cedar hull]

It's got ekitike in it assuming isak doesn't move for example

[violet temple]

yeah fairs the isak, wissa etc news could be really crucial

[cedar hull]

Can sort that later if you want

[hollow ermine]

Bro I don’t even argue with you

[cedar hull]

But the main point of vapm is evaluating if they are value from the change in price since last season, so it wouldn't be a true determinent

[violet temple]

it's not for u lol

[cedar hull]

2 down, let's keep working fellas til we work it out

[hollow ermine]

I know I’m trying to make a joke as the kids say

[quick dawn]

mcgrr said it wouldnt work because base cost players it wouldnt work for but if you assume 4.5 attackers dont play i think it would be valuable

[cedar hull]

@quick dawn You can just download the excel in pinned and add a new column, rather than doing actual price just do actual price - base

[novel harbor]

is this still the latest one?

[cedar hull]

Yeah he's not wrong there but you can still do smth with it

[quick dawn]

yeah i might try it later

[violet temple]

Yo yo we ARE not doing this

[quick dawn]

ive just been on mobile since im on holiday

[cedar hull]

I think so, only changes made since have been visual I believe if there's any players you want me to add just @ me

Idm doing players that haven't even moved yet like dubravka or smth

As long as you interpret the stats loosely

[violet temple]

Whys dango so high

[acoustic edge]

watkins 🕊️🕊️

[violet temple]

oh nvm I'm just dumb his minutes are shit

[cedar hull]

Yeah doesn't account for minutes, I cba to do xmins since it's so variable

You can take into account fixtures and mins yourself

There's no objective way to sort them

[acoustic edge]

everton really want dibling

would that affect ndiaye?

[quick dawn]

yeah watkins was getting benched for duran last szn

[zenith jolt]

worse mins sliughtly

[cedar hull]

Surely plays RW no?

[acoustic edge]

idk who they have RW now

[cedar hull]

They need a rw so badly they surely aren't getting him for 40m depth

[violet temple]

Yeah will play rw I

[latent depot]

Ndiaye truly weirdest badwagon I've seen

[quick dawn]

if he bangs it will be annoying

[latent depot]

funny either way

[supple steeple]

literally no one

McNeil plays there for now, or Garner

[quick dawn]

you can buy buendia

[acoustic edge]

wait so where will mcneil play

[quick dawn]

or bailey

please

[acoustic edge]

is he benched

[supple steeple]

10 hopefully

Alcaraz benched

[quick dawn]

i thought alcaraz would play

but am not an everton fan

[acoustic edge]

W pens

and also obviously review

but that’s less fun

[latent depot]

taker of Everton's 2-3 penalties per season

pens should be just another positive on top of an already viable asset, not the variable that makes the asset viable

I get the pick, but I'm not interested in merely viable, only looking at desirable

[supple steeple]

he would have had 150 points last season with the new rules + position change

thats with two pens

decent 6.5 pick

[novel harbor]

i can’t understand the hype at all

he just seems like a decent pick

[slim bane]

Vvd

[violet temple]

Downgrade vvd upgrade keeper maybe?

[latent depot]

come on, 150 from 6.5 is not enough when 5.5 defs are getting 160-180

[orchid plank]

Talisman I guess

[slim bane]

Traditionally this just highlights all the budget picks

Not what you want because you actually want to spend the full 100M

[wanton whale]

Not me right?

[violet temple]

Wouldn't be able to do La Liga fantasy business with u then gng