road to 200k messages

[latent depot]

FFS

[cedar hull]

we better not be surprised solanke is injured

[quick dawn]

rate this attack

[trail forum]

im sure gyok from the bench can outscore GW1 Salah

you're cooked if gakpo gets hooked for ekitike then wirtz or salah score

[quick dawn]

ill probably go with salah but it looks so good

saka cap gw2 as well

[broken patio]

Where do you guys stand on wirtz gw1?

The longer preseason goes on the longer we realise we need funds elsewhere and he has potential to be a cash cow if you think that he's not going to be thaaaaaat amazing in FPL

[jolly solstice]

Hoping pool don't sign isak and I can downgrade him to gakpo

[broken patio]

It's tough BC we have no prem data for him

[jolly solstice]

Wanna upgrade my 3rd def lmao

Idt any 4.5 def will cut it

[broken patio]

I wish I could have both Bowen and Watkins

[trail forum]

i listened to blackbox and they mentioned that if he scores gw1/2 hes gonna be instantly 8.7

which frankly terrified me

dont have 0.5 to lose

and pre-season hes looked good apparently

[broken patio]

Ah yeah that's a good point

[jolly solstice]

8.7?

[little delta]

Why cant you

[broken patio]

I'm kinda on that thinking, it's just scary to go without him and he's not that hard to squeeze in

[broken patio]

Because.. I want Salah Palmer wirtz Rogers, I want mostly premium Defs

All of a sudden the fwd spots get limited by budget very quickly

[jolly solstice]

Don't see how that's possible

Even with a 442

I tried

[broken patio]

Not with Watkins and Bowen yeah

Very easy with a welbeck in one of those spots

[jolly solstice]

Could have sels vvd murillo and 2 4.5 defs

[little delta]

Nah

[jolly solstice]

Yeah that's not good

[broken patio]

Rn I'm on petrovic vvd Murillo Munoz lacroix as my starting back 5

[jolly solstice]

Real weak bench

[little delta]

Defs got great value this season

[shrewd dust]

there’s not really any 4.5s that i’m sold on

[pale tiger]

Richards decent but fix not ideal

[little delta]

konsa good for rotation purposes, richards

[broken patio]

Richards is good but hard to justify when there's the other 2 palace Def

I like AWB

[pale tiger]

Van de ven?

[trail forum]

what do yous think of JSL

[shrewd dust]

i like richards but then i’m like well may as well push the boat for lacroix or munoz

[broken patio]

Meh

[jolly solstice]

With welbeck instead of bowen it's possible

[pale tiger]

Injury prone too

[broken patio]

Depends if he's on pens or not

[shrewd dust]

i like him a lot but i think id rather move to him around gw5 than start

[little delta]

that’s what he said

[broken patio]

If he's not then I'm not too fussed by a wolves fwd

One of the worst attacks itl

[jolly solstice]

Right

[trail forum]

good point

[broken patio]

And that was with Cunha too

[little delta]

But i dont like welbeck much

[jolly solstice]

Are u set on 4 back beef

[broken patio]

Arias could take pens too for wolves

[jolly solstice]

Fixtures aren't that appealing

[broken patio]

4 or 3, not 5

[jolly solstice]

But I mean it's Brighton

[broken patio]

Rn I'm on a 4 but playing 3 gw1 - playing xhaka over lacroix

I have budget for muniz over kroupi so if he goes to Leeds then I can be flexible swapping between a 3 and a 4 with muniz and xhaka as rotation options

[little delta]

Gyokeres is not 3rd on pens

[quick dawn]

gakpo

[little delta]

i am not going anywhere near gakpo tbh

[jolly solstice]

Damn I really want Watkins now

[shrewd dust]

muniz being nailed somewhere would be good

[broken patio]

Yeah Watkins looks great

[quick dawn]

gakpo might be the best attacker currenrlt

[broken patio]

And so does Bowen

[pale tiger]

Ez lock watkins

[broken patio]

Watkins Bowen is the dream front 2

[jolly solstice]

Gyokeres on?

[broken patio]

Just don't even have to think about either of them

Not fussed about gyok gw1

[jolly solstice]

Dowman on

Gyok on

[shrewd dust]

beef how nailed do you think mitoma will be

[pale tiger]

Gyok finally la

[little delta]

For who

[jolly solstice]

Mosquera on

[broken patio]

Should always start when fit, I do expect hurzeler to protect him though

[jolly solstice]

Havertz and saka

[little delta]

gyokeres one to keep an eye on

[broken patio]

No part of my wants to start with him gw1

Only good fix at the start are gw1 and gw2

Were not sure he starts them

[jolly solstice]

Merino is gonna score

[broken patio]

Very happy to go for Bowen/Watkins and gyok is an easy move

[quick dawn]

heres a sleeper pick

martinelli

[broken patio]

Big time sleeper pick

Xmins though

What if madueke gets mins at lw

Or trossard

Or if they sign eze

[quick dawn]

take mins sure

[shrewd dust]

bowen is pretty reliable but west ham don’t have particularly good attacking fixtures beyond gw1 for a while

[quick dawn]

but he should start

rn

same with bradley

i wanna get him

all the pool fans think he starts the szn

[broken patio]

They don't need to be amazing fix though,
Just 1 Bowen goal and he's basically at 3bps

[little delta]

nah to bradley

for me

[broken patio]

Because everything goes through him

[quick dawn]

draft number 5000

[little delta]

first time i have seen martinelli

[shrewd dust]

bradley could be worth the risk if you think he’ll start and get subbed off around 60-70

[jolly solstice]

Oo

[quick dawn]

i like this defence

[jolly solstice]

Don't like martinelli tho

[quick dawn]

dc monsters

[jolly solstice]

But good team

[elder cargo]

why take a non nailed player at 5.0 tbh

[jolly solstice]

I'd downgrade martinelli to kudus and upgrade kelleher to murillo

Or lacroix to munoz

[cedar hull]

martinelli

[broken patio]

Just don't see why you'd go for Bradley when lacroix is the same price

Or neco

[cedar hull]

sleeper picks still gotta be good

[shrewd dust]

not really worth it to me but some people might play like that

[broken patio]

Martinelli 7m, yeah I'd rather have semenyo

Or mgw

Or Rogers

Or Gordon

[novel harbor]

or elanga

literally anyone but nelli actually

[cedar hull]

martinelli has actually only had 1 good season

[jolly solstice]

Wait

[little delta]

I just thought of mart over rogers and lmao

[quick dawn]

if he starts like the first 5 gws then he will be better and 1 mil cheaper than vvd no

[jolly solstice]

Rogers isn't even in that team

[broken patio]

Didn't expect to wee a villa fan pick martinelli over Rogers

[jolly solstice]

Lol would take Rogers in a heartbeat

[broken patio]

That's a HUGE if

Trossard exists

And madueke

[slim bane]

He just went off injured

[broken patio]

And that's before eze

[quick dawn]

lmao

i mean i meant bradley

[broken patio]

For a cheap Liverpool def I'd wait for guehi

And at 5.0 I'd prefer lacroix anyway

[quick dawn]

he will start the season and even if hes shite and gets binned off i would have bench options like xhaka

i have lacroix already

[cedar hull]

i dont like bias fans much but man bezzo do you hate your team or something

[quick dawn]

yes

[broken patio]

If he gets binned off for frimpong he'd probably still get a cameo though

[quick dawn]

i mean we havent signed anyone

yea but thats only 1 gw

[lavish parcel]

The gk?

[quick dawn]

backup replacement for olsen

[lavish parcel]

Wow he's 34

Idk why I thought he was like 26-28

[quick dawn]

i want to sign like a cb a rb 2 wingers and a striker

[lavish parcel]

Irrelevant then I suppose

[quick dawn]

and replace emi with chevalier but hes going to psg

[lavish parcel]

Villa do need a CB and RB tho

[quick dawn]

we have 1 right sided cb

lmao

[jolly solstice]

Spurs full backs man

On something this game

[silent jasper]

Trossard potential injury?
saw the flashscore sub saying that

[jolly solstice]

He came on for about 8 mins before he got subbed

[silent jasper]

damn that sucks for him tbh

[lavish parcel]

It could be a precaution

[jolly solstice]

Hopefully

All these crosses

None of them accurate

[little delta]

From who

[jolly solstice]

The entire game lol

From our wingers

[little delta]

How was Gyokeres

[jolly solstice]

Ft

[jolly solstice]

Didn't even touch the ball

Oh the incoming meltdown on X

[little delta]

sofa score said he got 2 touches so that’s a lie

[jolly solstice]

Yeah well I didn't see it

Eyes weren't plastered on the screen for the entire time

[slim bane]

Limped off

[lavish parcel]

Hoping a quick recovery

😭

[west marsh]

Arsenal defence still essential?

[wanton whale]

never was

[slim bane]

I can’t think of the word

But it wasn’t a typical goal

lol

MLS fouled near the halfway line and raya was miles out cos he made the pass to mls

[latent depot]

Saka and Tross injuries? That's a Pyrrhic loss

Sounded like a shit game

Was there handbags at FT between Johnson and Merino?

[slim bane]

Yea

[prime plinth]

Kudus owned mls at least

Richy comical miss from a cm out(awkward ball on a set piece)

[slim bane]

MLS been off it

if Cala was fit I’d start him gw1

[prime plinth]

Arsenal just don't hunt the game often enough

Always my problem with arteta in more notable games

[elder cargo]

Did anyone sit there with a notepad counting up the Spurs CBITs

Trying to see who’s getting them

[slim bane]

doesn’t it also depend on where each team attacks from

[elder cargo]

must be Romero

[lone thorn]

Porro only def with 10

Sarr got 13

[prime plinth]

That game was probably Romero and fbs

[elder cargo]

You actually can get the stats for a friendly on that?

[lone thorn]

cbit is on fotmob and sofa

[prime plinth]

Vdv didn't see much i think. Spence probably unders. Romero idk how much

[violet temple]

fpl won't go according to those I'm pretty sure

if it's something similar to ucl it'll be cooked

[prime plinth]

Ucl is just ball recoveries

[lone thorn]

they use opta right? maybe it's that for cbit too then

[elder cargo]

I think FPL is OPTA yeah

[novel harbor]

ye and fotmob source from opta too so fine to look on there

[elder cargo]

Oh Lewis-Shelly

Thanks

[keen wren]

Useful but obviously this game was played at a lower intensity

[elder cargo]

Fullbacks getting the Brunt of the CBITs for Spurs probably more to do with Arsenal than anything I suppose

[lone thorn]

Kiwi got 6 on fotmob🤔

[keen wren]

He got 11 on fotmob

It’s defensive actions

[lone thorn]

does the 0/5 tackles won still count?

[elder cargo]

Attempted tackles count I think

[quick dawn]

why are some of them ticked

[orchid plank]

Those reached the threshold

[quick dawn]

isnt it 12?

[orchid plank]

For mids it’s 12

Def it’s 10

[quick dawn]

ah

how did i not know this

[latent depot]

Solanke stayed on the bench? RIP

[hollow ermine]

Yeah fairly accurate then

[latent depot]

fit =/= match fit 90mins GW1

[hollow ermine]

Sofa don’t have recoveries but accurate everywhere else I think

[quick dawn]

ok heres an actual reasonable draft

[hollow ermine]

They source popular data from opta anyway

[broken patio]

Just need Muniz to Leeds

[slim bane]

The 100k msgs template is starting to form

[latent depot]

Chelsea's defence was surprisingly bad as the season progressed

don't think I want Sanchez

[quick dawn]

bin off muniz

[zenith jolt]

HUGE

[wanton whale]

fuck yess

bb2 is on

[keen wren]

Bb1 is back

[clever hollow]

we established fab is t1 so we are gooning to bb1

[latent depot]

Chelsea's final 7 clean sheets (25th Feb onwards) were vs Leicester, Southampton, dead Spurs, Brentford, Everton, dead United, dead Forest

basically all relegation tier attacks except Brentford

[orchid plank]

Can do Mayenda to Guiu now fairs

[shrewd dust]

still lowest xGA in that timeframe surprisingly

[latent depot]

well, yeah, facing 7 relegation tier attacks during that run will do that

-Brentford +Ipswich

7 clean sheets in 12 games

GW1-6 doesn't look weak enough in comparison

all midtable teams that will prob score 1

[shrewd dust]

oh yeah didnt pay attention to the games played lmao

they were 12th between boxing day and feb 25th

rubbish

[latent depot]

they also beat a Liverpool team that had just won the league, lost to Newcastle, Arsenal, conceded 2 to Ipswich and 1 to Fulham

[shrewd dust]

im assuming sanchez is safe for now but he got dropped at points last season

[latent depot]

he's out of my squad, fake ass defence

[shrewd dust]

i'm not really sold on any keepers

[latent depot]

yeah, I only like Pickford and Raya tbh, but Branthwaite is still out, Tarkowski has a niggle, and Raya has shit fix

prob going to pick Raya

and just wildcard much later, maybe GW12

[shrewd dust]

it just feels like better value rn putting the extra 0.5-1 towards improving defenders rather than the keeper

at least for me

[quick dawn]

kelleher will be fine enough

[shrewd dust]

i'll probably end up on him

just expecting brentford to not start very well

[hollow ermine]

Was it?

That December February Period was terrible

After that it was pretty solid, think in the run in we we’re up there defensively

[hollow ermine]

Wouldn’t trust fab on this tbh

[cedar hull]

Caveman Maths draft

[zenith jolt]

imagine showing this to someone 2 weeks ago

[hollow ermine]

Highly sophisticated numbers and calculations while factoring in critical overperformance/underperformance and appearances

But don’t carry the 2

= caveman maths

What happened to “he has 15xg so the chances are there”

[cedar hull]

its even more simple than that

its literally just brute forcing expected points

doesnt even take into account overperformance

i could manually do that but cba

not even appearances or xmins, its just a flat per 90 metric

[shrewd dust]

they'll simply get points

bosh

[cedar hull]

and thats before you factor in fix

[quick dawn]

the def and mid are all good picks

[humble bane]

Guiiuuuiuui nailed?

[cedar hull]

and yeah no bonus cos fuck calculating that

but salah in a league of his own, then palmer saka close 2nd

[pulsar chasm]

nailed is steep i’d say

[cedar hull]

haaland, isak, wissa clear at top of fwds

[shrewd dust]

ive got high hopes for sarr

[cedar hull]

loves the usual defender picks

big on sarr, marmoush, eze, gakpo

[lavish parcel]

Mateta is also decent ngl

[humble bane]

5 atb + wood upfront and xhaka. Dicteta would be proud

[quick dawn]

Marmoush underrated

[cedar hull]

Yeah, Wissa > Mateta > JP > Solanke > Wood at 7.5

Andersen, senesi, richards and pinnock the 4.5 picks

[lavish parcel]

Ive got him and Watkins uptop

[cedar hull]

aligns with a fair bit of what weve already got

it has evanilson above all 7.5s bar wissa btw

[quick dawn]

How is wood so low lol

[pulsar chasm]

as it should

[lavish parcel]

How

[cedar hull]

doesnt account for overperformance and pens

and bonus

all his 1 goal 9 pointers go down the drain

[quick dawn]

Whats it based on then

[cedar hull]

non pen xg, xa, xcs, DC

[latent depot]

scroll up, Chelsea faced 7 relegation tier attacks in their last 12, keeping clean sheets against 6 of them. the only good attack they kept out was Brentford

[cedar hull]

calculated expected saves and xcs for keepers

wood is low because he has the same npxg90 as welbeck

[latent depot]

Wood also doesn't play 90

tho neither does Welbeck

[cedar hull]

yeah the massive caveats are Mins, Pens, Bonus

and fixtures

this is not at all something you should follow directly

It is interesting to see this as the top defenders

[slim bane]

guiuuuu

[cedar hull]

(keane is massively inflated from small sample)

[shrewd dust]

think this is the first time ive seen milenkovic above murillo in a chart so far

[latent depot]

Raya back in my team

[cedar hull]

its a very small difference

[elder cargo]

I already got him thanks

[latent depot]

Anderson out for Christie

[hollow ermine]

Too late innit

[wanton whale]

Redsix are you on gakpo?

[hollow ermine]

Xgc in that period wasn’t “terrible”, even in the January period tbh when they were dog, they played similar type of run in that period as well if we’re going by position in table

Overall balanced

[cedar hull]

theres almost nothing between virgil and milenkovic in the chart

[pulsar chasm]

let it go

[hollow ermine]

What makes Gabriel better than saliba if we’re factoring in cbit and bonus from it

[cedar hull]

theres literally nothing in it, but its just slightly favoured towards goal threat, bonus isnt a factor in here, hard to measure it per 90

[hollow ermine]

Is this your graph

[elder cargo]

Not sure he’d appreciate another man getting on him

[cedar hull]

baseline bps per 90 doesnt necessarily mean 3/2/1 points, poisson distribution is arguably possible though

[hollow ermine]

Poisson

Speaking French

I’m off then

See ya later for RAN Screamer

[cedar hull]

didnt you do further maths bro

[elder cargo]

Gakpo is on my radar definitely just waiting to get a bigger picture of where Wirtz settles in this team

[hollow ermine]

No g

I remember nothing mathematically and didn’t need it after graduating

[cedar hull]

fairs, dont blame you

[hollow ermine]

I’m more a bio/kinesiology guy now

But I haven’t gone to uni yet

[cedar hull]

oh right

[hollow ermine]

So meh

Either way

[cedar hull]

you going this year or what

[hollow ermine]

These numbers

[hollow ermine]

Would like to but I’m an international student and my visa isn’t stand alone

So will cost an arm and leg

[cedar hull]

unfortunate

[hollow ermine]

Been working from a young age but into full time employment now, nothing concrete in terms of decisions but leaning towards gap year day by day

Working is depressing at times though

Anyway

[cedar hull]

nothing wrong with a gap year

[hollow ermine]

Fpl chat

[cedar hull]

but yeah back to fish

[novel harbor]

massive

[trail forum]

Fpl used to be fun

[cedar hull]

pack it in bro

[hollow ermine]

Hilarious that’s it’s a caveman maths draft yet is VAPM and Adjustment based

[cedar hull]

it wasnt fun 4 years ago

[trail forum]

Howd you whip that so fast

[hollow ermine]

My arias pick is slowly dying

[cedar hull]

from: rallen "kms"

[hollow ermine]

Why does wolves have to be shit

[latent depot]

FPL is suffering, where did you get the idea that it was fun? the bad weeks are 2x as bad as the good weeks are good

[hollow ermine]

Also

[trail forum]

Then I went sterling and it was. Disaster

[hollow ermine]

I hate how all the enabler picks are the same

[cedar hull]

i give up by january, only time i enjoy the game is preseason

[hollow ermine]

Chaka
Guiu
Anderson

You have 2/3 of those in every team

[cedar hull]

yeah i use the brute forced xpts to calculate xvapm lmao

[novel harbor]

pre season ye but it will change

[trail forum]

ok mcgrr

[novel harbor]

could change by tmr tbf

[hollow ermine]

We need more 5.5 signings

I have arias

[novel harbor]

ye

[hollow ermine]

Just to be different

Just to be

New

Just

To

Be

Alive

[slim bane]

you mean ayy

mcgrrr always finishes

[cedar hull]

keep going we need that word count up

mcgrr crawls to the finish, ayy throws his team away

[novel harbor]

guiu makes bb1 alot more attractive

[trail forum]

Ayy makes up a new excuse to not make transfers while being in discord every day anywya

[hollow ermine]

Like

Same amount of time looking at the numbers and explaining them here as picking the team

Anyway

[cedar hull]

ayy does a seasons worth of research in pre season just to go 3x burnley or smth

[violet temple]

lmao

[hollow ermine]

I will not be coerced into this Anderson herd mentality

[violet temple]

would be the most ayy thing to do

[trail forum]

1. Overanalyse pre-season
2. have a shit start
3. give up
4. repeat

[cedar hull]

hes 3% owned mate

[slim bane]

are we not all on double sunderland now at least

[novel harbor]

100k msgs myb ye

[cedar hull]

guiu still at chelsea

[latent depot]

I'm back in Gakpo Gang

[pulsar chasm]

anderson game breaker if MGW left

[violet temple]

better way to do it is
Underanalyse pre season
Have a good start
Continue
Repeat

[hollow ermine]

Enough for me

[novel harbor]

overanalysing pre season is the most fun part about fpl for me icl

[hollow ermine]

Like 50% of the players in this game are almost bots anyway

[trail forum]

wanna hear my new plan

[novel harbor]

right after that i end up defaulting to whatever i like

[violet temple]

sure go on

[slim bane]

win

[trail forum]

1. copy FPLcord united
2. win all my mini leagues

[violet temple]

lmao

fplcord United did surprisingly good especially considering they capped weird ppl like vardy

[trail forum]

ayys influence is too much

need to advertise it more this season so his influence is negligible

[violet temple]

there will be more activity I believe

atleast I can say I had a better season than fplcord United

[thin jasper]

he scored

[wanton whale]

This is why im asking

Don’t want him injured

[elder cargo]

he’s very much on the radar

[elder cargo]

I’m petite

[wanton whale]

Oh yeah how petite we talking

[elder cargo]

He would almost definitely be a viable option up till UCL starts providing that Wirtz doesn’t see minutes there

[wanton whale]

Wirtz is shit at corners as well

[jolly solstice]

Just surprisingly good?

Didn't it finish like 6th in this ml

And like top 10k or smth

[hollow ermine]

If I downgrade arias to xhaka I can upgrade lacroix to Munoz or vdv to another 5.0

Do I do it or nah

Lacroix is good and I like the fact I have a nobody like arias

[elder cargo]

Lacroix is fine yeah

[hollow ermine]

Think I’ll just stay put

But tbh

If I replace Munoz with tark

Then it’s a whole different story

Cause xhaka x tark is clear better than arias lacroix

I’ll comfort myself on the belief that tark is injured

Shit he played vs West Ham?

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

I have a 4.5 defender but I would rather rotate the 4.5 and the 5.0/5.5 mid than upgrade that 4.5 def to a 5.0 def that isn’t lacroix

Fuck you CBIT

[pulsar chasm]

branthwaite is

[hollow ermine]

Then I’ll comfort myself on the belief Everton are worse without him

[novel harbor]

is having watkins and gyokeres overkill? 🥀

[hollow ermine]

Gyok is waiting n see

So from gw1

Yes

Probably

[novel harbor]

i think he'll start

[pulsar chasm]

they objectively are don’t worry

[hollow ermine]

“Think” is not enough to invest 9mil in this economy unfortunately

So big wait n see

We have like 3 weeks left

[novel harbor]

i think we'll have decent knowledge by gw1

but if not then ye myb

[hollow ermine]

Plus the fact that Havertz is artetas secret love child

[oak furnace]

how we all going

I've been MIA

need to get into it

[novel harbor]

im just so in love with the idea of my current team but i have a weird feeling it just isnt sustainable at all and that i'll regret it

[oak furnace]

this is my team

i think there's 0.5 itb

[novel harbor]

i see alot of ndiaye hype

is it pens?

[latent depot]

Do we think Guiu starts

[oak furnace]

Idk just like their run

[slim bane]

defenders got better with cbits but ur defence is cheapo

explain

[latent depot]

Tarkowski 💯 outscores Ndiaye, downgrade him and upgrade Konsa

[novel harbor]

i hope so

i dont see why not

[latent depot]

Prob plays 65

[novel harbor]

anti 4.5m defender propaganda in here unfortunately

[pulsar chasm]

cheap defenders can still get cbit

[novel harbor]

ya hard to guess which tho. i think it'll be the mid table ones personally

[hollow ermine]

Not very often

[novel harbor]

i imagine there will be some breakout 4.5m defenders who slightly change their role leading them to being great value at some point in the game

[pulsar chasm]

richards and pinnock were both top 5 for CBIT per 90 last year

both 4.5

pinnock may not start tbf

[oak furnace]

What the fuck is cbit

i just built a team haven't done any research

all i saw is 2 of every chip

[latent depot]

Yeah, get ready to remake it

They broke the game. Defenders are now OP

[oak furnace]

great

[latent depot]

There's going to be outrage

[oak furnace]

Clearances blocks interception tackle?

surely defenders from shit teams will get those

esteve 4.0

[west marsh]

Worth it?

[novel harbor]

ye i think burnley defenders could

[novel harbor]

reading the fabrizio post again, this makes me lean yes:

Salary covered by #SAFC as he’ll be an important striker for Le Bris plans.

strong minutes atleast

[latent depot]

The GW2 debate is Guiu vs Solanke vs Xhaka bench 2

[quick dawn]

well hes the best 4.5 fwd anyway

[novel harbor]

eh

tough

[latent depot]

Not really a debate if Solanke and Spurs are up to speed GW1. City will be lacking match fitness

[hollow ermine]

I honestly think we’re getting Stockholm syndrome from these cheap players

I’m talking guiu xhaka Anderson etc

[novel harbor]

guiu and xhaka potentially but anderson seems hard to ignore

[quick dawn]

Xhaka and guiu are just bench options for most people

[frank mulch]

Isn’t Solanke a doubt

[novel harbor]

they're rotation options for me

xhaka mainly

guiu only against whatever teams are in terrible form that hes against

[cedar hull]

[acoustic edge]

afconbros...

[latent depot]

xNiggle but Frank said he was optimistic

He said if Sunday is too soon, he'll be ready for the game vs Bayern

Forgot that Spurs still have super cup vs PSG

[pulsar chasm]

so they’re fucked then cold

[latent depot]

If Solanke starts both of those I'll be satisfied

[latent depot]

This is absolute fraudulence and anyone picking Gabriel has only themselves to blame. Won't be match fit (best case)

[trail forum]

how are all these arsenal lads injured

have they been training mma in the offseason

[latent depot]

Gabriel returning from hamstring surgery, easy to tweak something as he ramps up intensity

same with Tark, Everton have been cautious with him in preseason

no idea wtf is going on wih Branthwaite tho

[broken patio]

Is guiu gonna be nailed though?

[latent depot]

obv not, bro is 19 and has barely played

[broken patio]

Over mayenda and isidor

Ah

Didn't realise he was so young

Still waiting on Muniz to Leeds, that's the real BB enabler

Or, wanna see kroupi get mins

[latent depot]

he'll get a mix of starts and sub mins IMO

prob 65-70 when he starts, 15ish cameos off the bench

might start the season on the bench

[obtuse shoal]

Wait I thought Richards wasn’t a good asset for defcons?

[broken patio]

He's decent

Better than guehi

[pulsar chasm]

he’s good in his own right

just not better than lacroix

[latent depot]

too many Palace assets

[hollow ermine]

Guys help me

[thin jasper]

oh no are you ok

[hollow ermine]

No

I want arias and Cucurella

But I know they’re not viable

[thin jasper]

what’s wrong with cucurella

[latent depot]

hair too curly

[thin jasper]

I like his hair

[latent depot]

I don't mind it

IMO Chelsea are avoids cos they will lack match fitness

[thin jasper]

meh

they have one of the better starting fixtures

and good team

still picking palmer and cucurella

[latent depot]

don't think their fix are very easy. lots of midtable teams

[thin jasper]

hate to argue this again but feel like we getting pretty picky on these fixtures

[latent depot]

I was looking at this earlier and decided to take Sanchez out

most of their clean sheets came against relegation tier attacks

[thin jasper]

I think these are quite good fixtures for both attack and defense for a team like Chelsea

Maybe Murillo over Cucurella actually though

[latent depot]

come to the cbit dark side

[cedar hull]

Cucu is good, it's just that vvd and Gabriel are much better along with the 5.5s, nothing wrong with him tho

[thin jasper]

yeah

not huge on Arsenal defenders to start the season

[latent depot]

wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool keep 0 clean sheets GW1-3

[hollow ermine]

If you put him in a room with Murillo Munoz milen vvd saliba gab he prolly dies first

[thin jasper]

already got Van Dijk but Murillo seems pretty obvious

[hollow ermine]

So atp why are you getting him

So that’s my concern

I want him though

And I’ll keep him

And I’m ready to take the consequences

For arias not so much

[thin jasper]

fpl is a for fun game anyways

pick players from your favourite team

[cedar hull]

I still don't know who's better out of Murillo and milenkovic

[cedar hull]

What if you don't have one

[wanton whale]

murillo

[thin jasper]

just know whoever you pick, the other defender is scoring, get bonus points, and will get defensive points too

while your guy is getting 1 point

[cedar hull]

Caveman prefers milenkovic

[latent depot]

lower variance vs higher ceiling

[wanton whale]

yeah basically

[hollow ermine]

It’s precisely because I don’t like Chelsea in fpl that I’m getting him

[latent depot]

start with both, ditch the worse performer after GW6

[cedar hull]

Yeah it just depends if you get a goal from milenkovic in the 6-8 gws you have them

[thin jasper]

I kinda don’t wanna triple up on Forest

any options other than Sels

[cedar hull]

Triple?

[thin jasper]

Wood Murillo Sels

[cedar hull]

Not huge on wood

And Sels is dud because of Murillo and milenkovic

[thin jasper]

meh he’s got good fixtures and i think he can still get some decent output

Sels i’m trying to move tho

[cedar hull]

Petrovic/Sanchez/Raya are the options for keepers ig

Low impact position, don't really care

[thin jasper]

this is probably stupid but what about Patterson the Sunderland keeper

[latent depot]

yeah I've gone completely off Wood after a deep dive

[cedar hull]

Caveman rates him the worst 7.5 iirc

[thin jasper]

he’s got good fixtures and i assume Sunderland will be facing some amount of shots

so save points too

[latent depot]

I do want Wood for GW5-6, but that's it

[cedar hull]

Promoted teams will ship like 100 goals though

And though Sunderland have made about 10 signings, none of them are cbs iirc

Oh and they are getting a new keeper btw

[thin jasper]

surely that means their championship cbs were good

[thin jasper]

oh

[cedar hull]

He will be 4.5 though so it doesn't matter

[latent depot]

I'm not sure what I'm going to do if Gyokeres and Havertz play a half each at CF in the last 2 preseason games

[cedar hull]

Isak

[thin jasper]

idk i don’t really like any of the keepers and this run to start the season is good and works for early and later wildcards

maybe it’s overthinking it tho

[latent depot]

I only like Raya tbh unless Branthwaite is 100% fit

[cedar hull]

Tbf Im warm on kelleher despite the ownership

Prefer petro still but he's not bad

[thin jasper]

I am not very high on Brentford

like if it’s not the three promoted teams down it’s Brentford next in line

[cedar hull]

Think people are overestimating their downfall

They've had the lowest wage budget in the league since they joined, recruit in house, club philosophy is drilled into the players

[thin jasper]

they lost Frank, Mbeumo, Norgaard, potentially Wissa, and it’s not like they were amazing last season

[cedar hull]

Yeah but they won't be in a relegation battle imo

They were 10th best team statistically last season

[thin jasper]

they were also 10th

[cedar hull]

Id have them like 14/15th

Can't be worse than west ham surely

[thin jasper]

i guess yeah

man i’m gonna feel so stupid if kelleher is the best 4.5 keeper to start the season

[cedar hull]

I'm high on wissa if he stays at Brentford tbh

Open play goals go down, pen share up, id expect similar to last season

[elder cargo]

Streets need Thiago 6.0 unfortunately

[cedar hull]

Id have petrovic to score more across the season idk about gw1 though

[cedar hull]

Would be nice tbf

Only cheap fwd option

[elder cargo]

yeah

[cedar hull]

(in before beef says welbeck)

[elder cargo]

if Muniz went somewhere I'd get him as well

[thin jasper]

I have Welbeck!

[pulsar chasm]

has welbeck scored in 2025

[cedar hull]

He's never got more than 10 goals a season btw

[pulsar chasm]

he was on a heater and then just turned to shit i swear

[thin jasper]

yeah he was insane last season august

shit speaking of August, Haaland is a demon in August

[pulsar chasm]

haaland isn't getting the chances atm

can't really say he's a bad option tho

[cedar hull]

Haaland is 1m too expensive

[thin jasper]

can’t afford him without shafting some of the guys i don’t really wanna sell so unfortunate

[pulsar chasm]

also when doku plays owning haaland is so painful

[cedar hull]

Best ever season in FPL of all time from Salah and he's 0.5 more than a guy who got less points than Chris wood

[pulsar chasm]

lost kdb

[thin jasper]

barely had kdb in the first place

[pulsar chasm]

true

[lavish parcel]

Not our fault he kept ghosting

[pulsar chasm]

team doesn't feel as drilled to just feed haaland anymore

[lavish parcel]

[pulsar chasm]

to me

[lavish parcel]

City lacked creativity

[elder cargo]

[lavish parcel]

Malen wow

[elder cargo]

Streets need this guy too

[thin jasper]

holy shit there are no forwards

[pulsar chasm]

yeah and haaland has fully lost his 2 best creators

[thin jasper]

can i play 5-5-0

[lavish parcel]

Kdb and?

[pulsar chasm]

grealish

[lavish parcel]

Oh he left?

Wtf

[pulsar chasm]

i think he's been just banished

[lavish parcel]

I thought he was still at city

[pulsar chasm]

he hasn't left sorry

wasn't with them on cwc

[lavish parcel]

Oh

[elder cargo]

3 assists in their 2 friendlies so far btw

release the goons

[lavish parcel]

Shhh don't say it aloud

I might actually triple up

Malen, Rogers and Watkins

Pure vibes

[elder cargo]

I'd like for Gyokeres to start GW1 purely because I don't want to pay the price for Saka if he doesn't have guaranteed pens

[thin jasper]

Malen intrigued me but i was scared of mins

[elder cargo]

need arsenal attacker especially for GW2 doe

[lavish parcel]

I think I am confident enough to tank whatever gyokeres or Saka could score in gw1-2 with an alternative player

Avoiding arsenal totally until WC

Plus their ownership isn't even that great

[cedar hull]

I just don't rate villa and Rogers numbers out me off even though he outperforms them

[elder cargo]

not a lot of comparable options about his price

90 minute man consistently too

can't knock him

[broken patio]

Ahhhhhhhh where do I get .5 here

And don't say Bowen to 7.5

[thin jasper]

Lacroix to Richards

[broken patio]

Mhm

[west marsh]

Virgil to 5.5

[elder cargo]

I was about to say

richards cbit numbers are good for 4.5 as well

[pulsar chasm]

bowen to evanilson

[novel harbor]

bowen to 6.5

[thin jasper]

4-5-1 draft

[broken patio]

This is a proper shout ngl

[cedar hull]

Rogers to sarr, palace train

[elder cargo]

gakpo malen dutch bros combo will push me to the moon

[broken patio]

Shut up

[cedar hull]

Virgil to tark probably

[broken patio]

I'm already hating that I have double palace

[west marsh]

Strand Larsen as the lone forward doesn’t look right

[latent depot]

This chat is Gakpo Gang, join us Beef

[thin jasper]

fuck man i have bowen again

[cedar hull]

Wrong thread for this team man

[thin jasper]

probably worth the 0.5 over Wood though

[pale tiger]

Why I have Tarkowski , Murillo , Richards , Wan bisakka

[latent depot]

No, we're big at the back groupies

If you don't have at least 4x 5.5/6.0 defenders (or Lacroix) you'll be frowned upon

And by 6.0, we mean VVD

[cedar hull]

Also big bench

[pale tiger]

Sad

[cedar hull]

It's more a dig at us than anything you know

Meant no harm

[latent depot]

Yes, this channel (mostly me) has been fixated on past points from 3 defences that way overperformed xGA

[pale tiger]

Okay

[latent depot]

Midtable defences

But... If they do replicate last season, those players will score 160-180 points for 5/5.5M

Murrilo/Milenkovic/Tarkowski/Branthwaite/Munoz/Lacroix

[novel harbor]

erm is that a 4.5m defender i see

[pale tiger]

Fine

[trail forum]

why are these losers trying to 'solve' fpl

this is the real downfall of fpl

who cares about 5 extra transfers

[cedar hull]

Review 2.0

[trail forum]

that started off as a passion project by 1 guy

this is a purpose set up 'company' to make money

and take decisions out of your hands

ew

these guys are actually smart and will eventually solve it

the logo is sick tho

[cedar hull]

Yeah I prefer these guys to review purely because they don't have a cult following

It depends how paywally they make it

[west marsh]

It’s 16 days until deadline and I still haven’t been able to talk myself out of having Haaland along with Salah and Palmer am I cooked?

[novel harbor]

think having haaland is fine personally

[west marsh]

Missed a crucial detail mb

[hollow ermine]

Pick 1 (I already know the answer but I refuse to accept)

[thin jasper]

the third one duh

[hollow ermine]

?

Is this fr?

[thin jasper]

no

if Everton are healthy i think he has to be a lock

(Tarkowski)

[hollow ermine]

Wait

Are you on desktop?

[thin jasper]

nah on my phone

[hollow ermine]

Cause the tark draft is showing up as the second one here

Left, top right, bottom right

How much is Le fee

[cedar hull]

5

Palhinha had 71% DC in 67 games for fulham

Lot of ycs and he's probably gonna be 5.5 though

[hollow ermine]

Almost 100 dc points then

95 ish

[hollow ermine]

@cedar hull

[cedar hull]

94 DC points 27 yellows I think

[cedar hull]

2 clears, but I assume that's the one you don't like

[broken patio]

I think I have

Wish I could have lacroix over Richards but idk, will continue tinkering

(playing him most weeks over xhaka ofc)

[wanton whale]

Holy shit yes

[broken patio]

Fh6 so not worried about double palace Def

[wanton whale]

More gakpo gang members

[broken patio]

Neco + lacroix
Vs
Munoz + Richards?

I could also just bin xhaka for a 4.5 and play lacroix every week

[cedar hull]

Caveman maths has Diaz 4th behind Salah, Palmer and Saka btw, gakpo will basically be stealing that data

[wanton whale]

2

[cedar hull]

Also I noticed caveman points projections aligned pretty damn close with robTs market projections for the most part lol

[broken patio]

Now the question is
Richards + xhaka
Vs
Lacroix + 4.5

[slim bane]

Friendly against biggest rivals is the stupidest thing ever

[wanton whale]

Is xhaka 8th attacker?

[broken patio]

Yeah

[slim bane]

Tross and Saka injured ytd

[broken patio]

Well 7th

[wanton whale]

Yeah go Lacriox

[slim bane]

Cala against newc

[broken patio]

But 442 most weeks

[slim bane]

Kepa in training

[cedar hull]

Munoz to tark, Richards to lacroix, xhaka to 4.5 play 442

[slim bane]

Gab and timber coming back from injury

[broken patio]

This basically

Yeh Munoz could be tark

[cedar hull]

Id only double up on palace defence on 5 back

[broken patio]

Palace Def works better than Everton def for fh6 though

But I hear you

[cedar hull]

Idk chip strategies so that's fine then

That's the best draft I've seen from you

[wanton whale]

Wait saka injury how Bad?

[cedar hull]

Even though I don't like the fwds

[broken patio]

Woooo

[broken patio]

I hate all forwards apart from Watkins and Bowen

I feel so safe having those two

Can also use them both as cash cows

[cedar hull]

Fair but having two forwards with neither on pens is eh

[broken patio]

Igy

[lavish parcel]

Might also add Kluivert while you're at it, those pens are gonna be massive

[broken patio]

And verbruggen and vanhecke and veltman

[lavish parcel]

Oh yeah that trio from brighton

They were my beginner team in FIFA ngl

[broken patio]

Big time green chemistry links

[lavish parcel]

Might make a fun FPL team with dutch players

Surely it will outscore Ayy

And hopefully mcgrr

[slim bane]

Who’s this mofo

Disrespect

Mcgrrr has multiple 10k finishes to his name

I have just the one

[lavish parcel]

Sorry I am a nobody compared to the mighty mcgrrr

I didn't meant any disrespect, just wanted to farm some kekws

[west marsh]

And got 2 😭

[lavish parcel]

[slim bane]

warra farm

[lavish parcel]

Happy with that

[broken patio]

Verbruggen
Frimpong, vvd, vdv, botman, timber
Summerville, gakpo, reijnders, malen, kluivert
Zirkzee, Flemming, piroe

[slim bane]

[west marsh]

1*

[lavish parcel]

Goated team

[broken patio]

Strikers are a bit shit

[cedar hull]

Too many united players

[broken patio]

They're the only 3 dutch forwards

[slim bane]

Factos

[broken patio]

There's one

[slim bane]

Exactly

[cedar hull]

That's my point

Surely there's a Dutch 4.5 fwd

[broken patio]

As far as I know those are the only 3

I didnt search too hard though

[lavish parcel]

Dutch players are actually goated ngl

Wish they had a manager chip this year

Nvm we don't have any dutch managers

Anymore*

[hollow ermine]

Yes

I can honestly go le fee over xhaka and I would like it a lot

Maybe Ayari too but he’s worse than ke fee

[slim bane]

Yea that’s a possibility asw

[cerulean cape]

Nomium is trending

Defcon defenders are trending

[broken patio]

Idiots

[broken patio]

OMFG it's catching on

[hollow ermine]

Honestly

I’m picking between Murillo tark and Murillo milenkovic

Tark on improved points is a step down from both

However having both is risky this year given the likelihood forest will become worse anyway

I’m picking between 2 boring chit options are pretty much premium anyway

Is Tarkowski really worth it

[cedar hull]

Depends on branthwaite tbh

But I like him either way

[west marsh]

Is this defence good?

[hollow ermine]

Ain’t he injured

[cedar hull]

Yeah exactly, if hes fit then tark is a better asset

[cedar hull]

Raya to 4.5 AWB to milenkovic, Collins to lacroix

[west marsh]

Don’t back Lacroix icl and none of the 4.5s stick out to me in particular

[cedar hull]

Lacroix is clear best 5.0

Goal threat, decent Cs, good dc

[cerulean cape]

Pras said nomium was good and it starts to trend lol

[west marsh]

Saying this on deadline I’ll probably have Lacroix tc and a 4.0 starting keeper

[cedar hull]

Could have easily been 5.5

Lot of pras bandwagoning recently ngl

[cerulean cape]

Is review out yet

[limber pine]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-act-like-you-dont-know-karen-mott-sistas-you-know-it-dont-act-like-you-have-no-idea-gif-23964958

[cedar hull]

I think there will be a strong trend between review coming out and CCS posting their latest draft

[limber pine]

No shit, it’s like that all the times

Last year no one had haaland

Review dropped and forced haaland in

Everyone went for him and against Salah

[cedar hull]

Facts

It's kinda sad ngl

Analytics genuinely haven't touched their team cos they waiting for review to drop

[hollow ermine]

So I can stall on tark then

I think I’ll just go le fee anyway tbh

Arias train is dying day by day

[cedar hull]

Never left the station mate

[limber pine]

No

It’s part of the game

Hate the game, not the player

[cedar hull]

Found the review user

[limber pine]

Nah I’m actually not

But you can’t sit here and complain when people using it

Everyone follows their algorithms indirectly without noticing it anyway

By following CCs you automatically following their algorithms

[cedar hull]

I don't follow CCS tho

And I said it's sad not bad

[cerulean cape]

Game died in 2021 when bowen had a random dgw and he was 150% eo

[limber pine]

Sorry man, but I ain’t believing you never see a FPL post on X / watch a video quick or anything like that. You get ur info somewhere.

[cedar hull]

Follow like 3 on x, and haven't watched a vid for like 5 years

My data is all in pinned lol

[cerulean cape]

Watching and following are two different things anyway

[cedar hull]

Thought following here meant keeping up to date with everything they do, not follow on X or smth

[cerulean cape]

Copying is the word

[cedar hull]

Nothing enjoyable about watching FPL content for me

[lone thorn]

i only listen/watch it when i'm taking a dump

[cerulean cape]

I listen to most pods

Its just ear fodder for me

During walking/gym

[lone thorn]

i can't listen to anything but music during gym just doesn't hit the same listening to a pod

[cedar hull]

I should probably listen to some pods tbf

They seem alright

[cerulean cape]

Pods make gym go quicker

[lone thorn]

u lose that pump that comes with the gym playlist tho, for me anyway

[lavish parcel]

Keep going back and forth with this format. It's either Gyokeres + 5m Def or Rogers + Mateta

Romero has better fix so I might get him instead of Lacroix but other than that it's not much separating two of these

Triple forest until WC and then definitely take one forest CB out for 6m or any other team who is looking strong defensively

Spurs in preseason have kept 3 cs and conceded 2 goals

Cs Vs Arsenal
Cs Vs Luton
Cs Vs Reading
2 Vs Wycombe

Will focus on the Telekom cup and UEFA Super Cup before finalizing

[broken patio]

So what we've learnt is that Wycombe are a good attack

[lavish parcel]

No but honestly the first few games don't look that bad except the City (A)

Like until GW7

Gw8 is Villa at home and we know how bad villa fell off in away games

[broken patio]

No yeah the fix are defo there

[lavish parcel]

Villa away attack btw

[broken patio]

I'm quietly interested in Romero ngl

Reckon he's likely to get that Collins role in Frank's system from last year

Gonna be a monster for CBIT and attacking returns

[lavish parcel]

I mean I'll be honest, it is recency bias

But Romero is good on corners and cbit

But the issue is how many games he lasts without a RC

[broken patio]

Frank had Collins scoring from open play last season

That's Romero all over

[lavish parcel]

No way

[broken patio]

Yeah man

One of the goals they scored in the first minute was Collins lmao

[lavish parcel]

Well I think I found a good 5m def who isn't Lacroix or Collins

[broken patio]

And his name is neco Williams

[lavish parcel]

I would love to have Lacroix but the fix are so bad

[lavish parcel]

Already on triple forest

[broken patio]

Fh6 makes it better

[lavish parcel]

FH13, mcgrr convinced me 😭

[broken patio]

😭

Yeah McGrrr is not a fan of my plan of fh6 wc13

[lavish parcel]

Idk when I will WC but I am definitely using my FH in gw13

[broken patio]

WC 7-9 looks good

[lavish parcel]

Yeah honestly

[broken patio]

Can see a lot of people doing wc4 too

[lavish parcel]

Made a little chips note

[broken patio]

Oh shit I almost forgot we need to use a TC before gw19

checks when Salah plays man utd

[lavish parcel]

Watching utd score 4 past Bou gives me a massive confidence in gw1

[broken patio]

And then there's me

Petrovic owner

[lavish parcel]

I loved him but Kelleher seems better since I can have his backup as well

I was also vibing with the Sunderland gk duo

Since they have easier fix to start the season

[broken patio]

https://youtu.be/LwUyv1Cl4uY?si=TaiLfLmujLCYFfiI

Check out Collins goal at 2'

[lavish parcel]

I will tysm

💙

[broken patio]

Oh it doesn't really show it from KO

But

[lavish parcel]

I found the one where it shows the buildup

It's so crazy

That run was so juicy

[broken patio]

Screams Romero though

[lavish parcel]

No literally

[broken patio]

He does that anyway all the time

[lavish parcel]

I don't see vdv making those sort of run in the box

Or even danso

[broken patio]

Nope

[lavish parcel]

They can join the attack but that run in the box would've been Romero

He is so locked in if I pick gyokeres

Just for GW2 captain

But we'll see

[broken patio]

Damn spurs fix are so good

[lavish parcel]

Yup

Makes me wanna go Solanke + Romero so bad but it's spurs

[broken patio]

That's the problem

It's spurs

Palhinha is an incredible signing though

And if we believe in frank...

With the fix....

[lavish parcel]

Oh yeah palhinha loan deal

Triple spurs 👀

[slim bane]

I hope review drops late