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I'll do it whenever I can

[wanton whale]

and that yeah

[pulsar chasm]

yeah it’s tough, i’m still not fully against rotating keepers

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Happy to BB a 4.0 Def and a 5.0 mid

So it's just 2 players to get in (4.5 keeper and 5.5 fwd) in any given week and I'm ready

[pulsar chasm]

but most will shoot me down for that which is fair

[west marsh]

BB15 with the Salah money could work

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Are there even any good rotating 4.5s?

OH WAIT

Hang on dooby

[pulsar chasm]

i’d probably just go petrovic +1

hanging

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You know earlier you were saying about how WC13 basically gives you 2 transfers to use straight away before the extra transfers in gw16?

Well then

[pulsar chasm]

yeah true

[broken patio]

WC with a 4.0 Def and a 5.0 mid

(you'll do that anyway)

[pulsar chasm]

yeah that’s a decent idea

[broken patio]

So slot in a 4.5 backup keeper and a 5.5 striker

And then in the 2 fix before gw16 you get those players out

Which means you BB in 14

WC 13 BB 14 sub those 2 players out in 15

[pulsar chasm]

thing is now if isak leaves newc maybe your team is cheaper in 13 now

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And then you're topped up with 5 ft

[pulsar chasm]

but isak could be sick at liverpool and you have him anyway

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Hmmmmmmmm

The debate of getting it out of the way Vs saving for that

Time to check fixtures for the 4.0 Defs in gw14

[west marsh]

Leeds have Chelsea
Sunderland have Liverpool
The other promoted team has Crystal Palace

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Ah it's not good

[pulsar chasm]

i checked sunderland and was like nice man

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Fuck

[pulsar chasm]

there might be a 4.0 emerge though

from a competent side

[broken patio]

Bb14 dreams dead before they even started

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araujo

[pulsar chasm]

hoever/lima

[west marsh]

James Hill if Zab somehow goes without a replacement

[west marsh]

Rotation risk with Smith

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He'd face Everton

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not adam smith

he will be first choice

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Hoever would have forest

This is a bit shit ngl

You'd have to get a 4.5

Unless you're just hoping for cbit and get a Sunderland Def Vs Liverpool

[pulsar chasm]

ballard for the bullet header

idek if he’s 4.0

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araujo against eve is fine surely

[pulsar chasm]

yeah for sure

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2 points for cbit, -2 points for 4 goals

[pulsar chasm]

generous

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Nah it doesn't look good enough in gw14

All the shit teams face the best teams

(duh, it's 1 game after the prime WC window, for this reason)

Okay back to wasting BB on a shit bench in the opening weeks

Id bench boost this gw1 if I knew Kinsky starts ngl

[west marsh]

6/8 league starts in 2025 (was injured from January to March) and started in preseason

Also Bournemouth Captain

He’s probably still first choice

[cedar hull]

araujos like 23

smith is like 33

assuming this is the phasing season

[wanton whale]

thats a 5 point bench im ngl

[pulsar chasm]

yeah araujo came in to replace smith last year i thought

just didn’t happen

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Perfect

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34 actually

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Free 5 points

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I'm assuming you expect that to be broken down as 0 5 0 0

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kroupi scores 5 ngl

[west marsh]

Can we count on it being a good way along by GW 14 though?

[broken patio]

Eh, we had the same joke in spirit

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vvd 2 bullet headers and a free kick so its fine

[wanton whale]

yeah pretty much

[wanton whale]

off the bench goal 🤤

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https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sith-gif-7488176

[pulsar chasm]

sa and petrovic pair pretty well but the gw1 fix is so peak

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no way fpl is that far away dooby is mentioning keeper rotation

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Yeah no point bbing petrol Vs Liverpool

[pulsar chasm]

nah you wouldn’t do it week 1

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petrol 6 saves at least

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Oh yeah ofc

Is sa even nailed?

Idk the situation with wolves gks

[pulsar chasm]

probably

johnstone linked with move away

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Ah fine then

[wanton whale]

petro could get some cbit you never know

[broken patio]

I thought about Sa but dismissed him BC of mins

The fix are good iirc

[cedar hull]

johnstone was a weird buy but we move

[pulsar chasm]

he’s actually quite good

hope we get him

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honestly rooting for petro 1 bps gw1

[pulsar chasm]

decent yeah

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makes perfect sense icl

[lavish parcel]

No shot Petro gets any bps gw1

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Man Johnstone was so good in that 1 allerdyce season at wba

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saves in the box got buffed, and hes saving everything inside there

[cedar hull]

back when 4.5 promoted keepers were meta

[west marsh]

Sa first choice
Bentley second choice
Johnstone third choice after falling out with the new manager immediately

[broken patio]

Who were the best gks for saves in the box last season?

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flekken

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I'm gonna assume Pickford #1

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Oh damn

[pulsar chasm]

i was lagging chill

from the fplwire vid

[west marsh]

How is Raya that high. Never gets save points for me

[cedar hull]

because he only gets save in the box

nowehere else

[pulsar chasm]

i had raya 2 years ago where gabriel and saliba scored every fucking week

that west ham game was truly an experience

[cedar hull]

when he was 4.5 with ramsdale?

[pulsar chasm]

5 yeah

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swear he was 4.5 cos he moved from brentford after game release

[pulsar chasm]

that was the wc where i dodged palmer

[wanton whale]

i remember when saliba scored and owners were so cocky

[cedar hull]

might be wrong tho

[wanton whale]

then Gabriel did the same 😭

[pulsar chasm]

yeah he may have been actually

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lmao we did the same and were the only ones hating on palmer

unreal hate watch fail

[pulsar chasm]

i was playing atleast 10 points down every week

[wanton whale]

worst part is he shouldve had atleast another goal and 2 assists in the second half

[west marsh]

I’m mad that I didn’t get Palmer earlier that season, still got him early but he had my heart since that GW9 game

[broken patio]

Really hope Kinsky plays

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gab?

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He'd be such a gift for early bb

[wanton whale]

nah im on about palmer vs brighton lol

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the 4 goals in one half?

[wanton whale]

yeah

[pulsar chasm]

nah this is like

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we on about season before

[pulsar chasm]

23/24

yeah

[wanton whale]

ohhh

my b

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breakout season

me and dooby never got him til like gw34

[pulsar chasm]

he was 5.0 and i didn't take him on wc20

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hate watching every week

[wanton whale]

oh my

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never thought it was sustainable, and then was arrogance as we were so late to it all

at least for me

[pulsar chasm]

yeah the arrogance was 100% a factor

[cedar hull]

yet he kept scoring every fucking game

[pulsar chasm]

didn't help he was farming pens but

[cedar hull]

oh yeah thats it

we thought the pens werent sustainable

9 pens btw

[wanton whale]

icl that sounds dreadful to go through

[broken patio]

Why did Sanchez miss so many mins last season?

[wanton whale]

coz he didnt stop

[pulsar chasm]

yeah it was really every week

[pulsar chasm]

he was dropped for a bit

[broken patio]

That's not great

[pulsar chasm]

i'd worry starting with sanchez tbh

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Mhmmm

[west marsh]

Idk how you lot made it to GW34 without Palmer. When Salah was doing the same thing this year I folded GW19 😭

[pulsar chasm]

if he fucks up like week 2 wouldn't shock me if chelsea just got someone

[broken patio]

Ugh I don't wanna double up on forest with sels

[wanton whale]

just go one 4.5

[broken patio]

Yeah maybe

Or 2 4.5s for the bb

[cedar hull]

13 goals open play, but 9 pens made that 22, + 8 assists, 30g/a bro

[broken patio]

Petrol and sa does look good

[wanton whale]

9 pens is brutal 😭

[cedar hull]

40% of his xg came from pens bro

[west marsh]

The Everton game had to be the highlight of that season

[cedar hull]

so yeah we never though that would keep up and it did

[pulsar chasm]

i remember when i thought i survived palmer

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course he never missed one the fucker

[pulsar chasm]

and he got like 2 assists and 3 bps in added time

vs palace i think

[wanton whale]

bro had a hatty and still took the pen for 4 😭

[pulsar chasm]

head firmly on mars

[cedar hull]

season was a write off cos of him

he averaged a goal or assist every 80 mins, we were doomed man

[pulsar chasm]

pretty sure i went nkunku over him

traumatic for sure

[broken patio]

9 pens isn't as bad as Bruno in that 1 season right?

[cedar hull]

nah palmer only broke out like gw5 or smth

[pulsar chasm]

nah on my wildcard

[west marsh]

Was bro even fit for a minute that season?

[pulsar chasm]

yeah he was for a bit but then got benched

[cedar hull]

that was 9 too iirc

[pulsar chasm]

the one game he started i benched vs pool and he scored

[cedar hull]

holy fuck

bruno underperformed xa by 9.27 in 22/23

[pulsar chasm]

me and classiic trauma dumping

[cedar hull]

1am innit

8 assists from 18xa

[pulsar chasm]

is this actual assists or fpl assists

[cedar hull]

actual

[pulsar chasm]

jesus

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idk fpl

[west marsh]

Gw8 he got his first goal (pen)

[cedar hull]

he got 1 fpl assist

anyway before i go bed someone tell me whats wrong with my latest draft

and give me some playing 4.5 mids

[pulsar chasm]

what makes you keep/sell isak

[wanton whale]

solid bb draft

[west marsh]

Lol how did Palmer have 4 penalty goals before his first open play one 😭

[cedar hull]

as long as whatever transfer rumours are settled by gw1

[keen wren]

Warming to bb1 somehow

[wanton whale]

bro back 5 looks so sexy when it enables those 5 attackers

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idc if he stays at newc or goes pool, as long as whatever saga is over

[cedar hull]

thats what im saying

[wanton whale]

lets see

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[wanton whale]

idk if i can do it myself

[pulsar chasm]

miley probably gets minutes btw

[cedar hull]

yeah considered miley, devenny is another but palace spot

[pulsar chasm]

barnes will probably come off the bench

but kroupi might too

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isak to watkins, rogers to wirtz a possibility ig

idk my consensus on isak at newc or pool really

[wanton whale]

aaron ramsey maybe

ik he was injured

[pulsar chasm]

doubt it

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newc he gets pens, pool more open play goals

[wanton whale]

ah my b

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0.401 vapm iirc

[pulsar chasm]

nah i get why

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like 3rd best fwd

[pulsar chasm]

liverpool games to me are sort of tricky to start

for attackers especially

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25% better attack than 2nd best

geneuinely dont think they have a poor fix for attackers other than arsenal/city away

[pulsar chasm]

i can get isak but wirtz i'm really not understanding

[cedar hull]

mostly to get more of that pool attack

market projections have him at like 0.65xgi90

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I'm gonna confess to have barely watched wirtz

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i know thats dumb but nothing else to go off

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I have no idea how good he is

Also where he's gonna fit in in the Liverpool attack

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absolute gem pre first acl

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basically a 10 that will operate in left half space

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Like, Liverpool don't really play with a 10

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he will basically dictate their front 3

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Isn't that kinda gakpo

[pulsar chasm]

liverpool 10s have never been great for fpl

[cedar hull]

8/10 whatever

[pulsar chasm]

i learnt that the hard way last year

[cedar hull]

nah he will be on the last line

[broken patio]

So like szobo last year but actually good

[pulsar chasm]

that's what i imagined

his role being

[cedar hull]

much more technical on the ball yeah

[pulsar chasm]

do wonder if salah role diminishes

not a hill worth dying on gw1 tho

[broken patio]

Yeah I wonder that too but I'm obvs gonna own gw1

[pulsar chasm]

in my mind rn he's best cap in 3 of first 5

so he's just automatic for me

[broken patio]

Is wild to think that he's twice the price of gakpo though lmao

[wanton whale]

idk if ill stay on gakpo till deadline

could go Mateta instead

[pulsar chasm]

would wanna see gakpo hit some form before going there personally

i get it though

[wanton whale]

yeah true

[broken patio]

Wirtz does feel safer

[cedar hull]

we cant share x links still right

[broken patio]

Correct

[pulsar chasm]

i bypassed it a couple days ago

[wanton whale]

im not going full sigma 5 back tho

[pulsar chasm]

wahful didnt

[cedar hull]

fuck sake

ill dm you beef

[wanton whale]

hacker

[pulsar chasm]

very inclusive from a helper

[broken patio]

Damn Sanchez just got a proper kit in FPL and I'm gonna sell him

[cedar hull]

didnt know if you cared

[pulsar chasm]

nah you're good lol

[wanton whale]

Kellehers looks grim

[pulsar chasm]

i've opened fpl itself once since launch and that's because i got benda

[wanton whale]

okay im set im gonna force myself to stop looking at my team

[pulsar chasm]

cook

big atb is so on

[wanton whale]

looks amazing wow!

[cedar hull]

auto pick knows whats up

[pulsar chasm]

nah i just picked 2 liverpool left backs

[wanton whale]

auto pick with semenyo

[cedar hull]

better decision than us avoiding palmer

[broken patio]

Am I stupid for considering Sa as my keeper

Until gw12

[pulsar chasm]

i am too

considering all of them though

areola is the one i prefer for now

[broken patio]

Swear wolves were pretty good defensively under Pereira

Need to find the stats that will inevitably show that not to be true

[pulsar chasm]

pretty middling, were pretty fortunate to get the cs that they did

to my knowledge

[broken patio]

:/

[pulsar chasm]

petrovic is best but his fixtures are pretty naff

it’s tough

[cedar hull]

11th best defence under vitor

[broken patio]

Not great not terrible

Fix are good though until gw12

On the whole

[pulsar chasm]

he’s definitely viable

[broken patio]

They're worse at the start but get better

[pulsar chasm]

he plays all 3 promoteds before wc13

[cedar hull]

Wolves will be fine, but hard to see them improve without their best player

[broken patio]

Sa petrol rotation looks good but there's no clear week where they've both got good fix to BB in

[wanton whale]

Good night everyone

[pulsar chasm]

probably not a big impact for them defensively though

[broken patio]

Gn@wanton whale

[cedar hull]

I know I shill petro a lot, but he's genuinely an insane shot stopper and I didn't look much further than that

Ultimately Brentford/Bournemouth etc roughly same defence, so I picked the best keeper

[broken patio]

Yeah I'm just put off a bit by fix

( I'm gonna post the thing again)

[cedar hull]

[broken patio]

This has them 2nd bottom

Tbh though it doesn't look too bad

[cedar hull]

Is that for offence or defence

[broken patio]

They don't play any of the premoted 3 before gw12 though

Idk, both

[pulsar chasm]

everything

[cedar hull]

I think it's just cos no promoted teams

Other than that it's fine

[broken patio]

There's a premoted team in gw6 but free hit

[cedar hull]

Keeper is the least impactful position, I'm really not bothered tbh

?

Fulham?

[pulsar chasm]

sunderland 4.5

leno is 5

[broken patio]

Leno 5 but Andersen 4.5

Robbery

[pulsar chasm]

leno had some crazy season and they’re just perma put him at 5 i fear

areola also plays 3 promoted

sunderland away week 1 though is probably the worst time to play them

[broken patio]

But west ham poo

[pulsar chasm]

yeah true

if they signed a good midfielder i’d be there

[broken patio]

Damn sa looks better by the minute

[pulsar chasm]

he plays city at the best time

so he might get 0 instead of -1

[broken patio]

Huge

[cedar hull]

Not to be that guy

But fuck me he's an even worse keeper than I thought

[pulsar chasm]

who sa

[broken patio]

[cedar hull]

63% save percentage for sa

[pulsar chasm]

yeah he is a bit shit

[cedar hull]

-0.14 psxg

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What's petrols?

[cedar hull]

79

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Damn

Psxg?

[pulsar chasm]

petrol better than sanchez

[cedar hull]

12th Vs 98th percentile

[pulsar chasm]

chelsea throwing

[broken patio]

100%

[cedar hull]

-0.14 Vs+0.32

And that's per game

[pulsar chasm]

do you have kepa's to hand

i don't want to make you dig for that lol

[cedar hull]

0.06 @ 74%

[pulsar chasm]

damn

so in theory bmouth have upgraded there

[cedar hull]

Idk if this means anything but petrol is 99th percentile for touches

[pulsar chasm]

if i take him i will interpret that as goal threat

petrovic areola works as a rotation fyi

[cedar hull]

Petrol averaged 3.55 saves per 90 in ligue 1

99th percentile for passes

What's the bonus on keeper passes again

Swears there's like a percentage or smth

[broken patio]

Flekken looks cracked on that list you posted from fplwire

Top for saves in the box by quite a way

Which has increased baps this season

Kepa was pretty average for it

And only 1 more cs

[pulsar chasm]

i know it's a factor but no idea what the actual stat/threshold is

[pulsar chasm]

kelleher a better shot stopper too

i would argue but i was a flekken hater

[broken patio]

I can see the appeal of kelleher then

Even if Brentford are shit

[cedar hull]

Annoyed kelleher is so highly owned tbh

[broken patio]

Yeah

[pulsar chasm]

do worry for brentford to start the season ngl

[broken patio]

Makes it scary to go against him

[pulsar chasm]

frank was there for so damn long

[broken patio]

Frank was also promoted from within though

Obvs his stock increased a lot

[pulsar chasm]

yeah it's just he was in charge for ages

[broken patio]

But they're not exactly breaking character

Yeah

[pulsar chasm]

i'm not one of those who thinks brentford go down btw

[broken patio]

They're gonna keep the same system and everything

[pulsar chasm]

think they'll be fine but the start might be rough imo

[broken patio]

Yeah neither, think they'll be absolutely fine

Agree

Better than wolves and west ham imo

[prime plinth]

Overperformed by 3 the season before in 20 starts

[cedar hull]

Keepers seem mid this year tbh

[broken patio]

Yeah

[cedar hull]

Gw1 at least

[broken patio]

Sels does look good for the opening run ngl

He's so good for shots saved in the box too

And cleans and bonus

[cedar hull]

Sels seems the best but we all got Murillo etc

[broken patio]

And good fix

[pulsar chasm]

can't justify sels when they have like 3 good outfield defenders ngl

[cedar hull]

Yeah exactly

[broken patio]

Yeah I'd probably rather have neco for the same price even

[pulsar chasm]

neco is being slept on big time man

i have him though

[broken patio]

He's so much better than Aina

And I think close with milenkovic

[cedar hull]

He is, but Murillo and milenkovic are just so clear among all defensers

[pulsar chasm]

yeah just wonder if it's worth the 0.5 saving

[broken patio]

I'm not huge on forest, I'm scared to double up and get hurt

[pulsar chasm]

same

[broken patio]

Very happy to own Murillo but I'm not in a rush to get another one

Even though I know they're all really good assets in their own right

[pulsar chasm]

milenkovic is a crazy goal threat but he's so shit for bps

[cedar hull]

According to vapm it's very clearly not 🤓

[broken patio]

Guy got 2 bps total last season

[pulsar chasm]

i owned him and just stopped checking bps when forest cleaned

[cedar hull]

0.327 Vs 0.477 neco Vs milenkovic btw

[pulsar chasm]

damn

[cedar hull]

Murillo same as Salah at 0.485

[broken patio]

Meanwhile Murillo got bps with every clean

And it sounds like he got CBIT with over half the cleans too

[pulsar chasm]

yeah as boring as it is murillo is just better

Xdopamine for milenkovic though

[broken patio]

My guy causally pulling an 11 pointer on a clean sheet with no attacking return

Fucked

[cedar hull]

Gonna cream for those double forest clean sheets at low eo

[pulsar chasm]

murillo to gabriel in gw 7 is a play

[cedar hull]

They're so close yet so far

[pulsar chasm]

some of them are so hopeless

[cedar hull]

Lmao Andy cooked analcord

[broken patio]

Actually yeah

Like

[cedar hull]

They were on about forest being shit at the end of the season and that's why they won't want their defenders

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I own gab rn in my gw1 draft because arsenal fix before gw12 are amazing

But all of it is gw7 onwards

[cedar hull]

Andy said it's not like analytics to care so much about a small sample

[broken patio]

But I'm like eh just own from gw1

But I can just move there in gw7

[cedar hull]

My receding hairline king

[pulsar chasm]

what i'm weighing up too

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Like

[pulsar chasm]

if i was early wc i wouldn't be looking gabriel's way

[broken patio]

Own a second forest Def gw1-6 even

[pulsar chasm]

well i still may early wc but making a team for a later wc

[cedar hull]

So it beef

Gabriel has niggles anyway

[broken patio]

Gw4 sucks for double forest though a

All the rest are fine

But gw4 they have arsenal

Bench one for rodon Vs Fulham

Pray for CBIT

[pulsar chasm]

floor in that game is probably 3 for forest defence

[broken patio]

Especially murillo

[pulsar chasm]

yeah exactly

[broken patio]

And then pray for milenkovic goal

Aren't arsenal actually shit at defending corners?

[pulsar chasm]

not sure

they're all 6'5 so you'd hope not

[cedar hull]

CBIT

[broken patio]

I think they're one of the worst in the league

Somehow

So milenkovic Vs arsenal is fine

And so is Murillo BC CBIT

Okay sorted

[pulsar chasm]

sa faced 7 pens last year

realistically he saves 1

[broken patio]

Saved 2

[pulsar chasm]

cold

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I think

[pulsar chasm]

oh yeah he saved one when i sold him on my free hit an hour before deadline

[broken patio]

The vardy pen save on free hit to clutch up my double wolves cs

[pulsar chasm]

has to be vardy's only pen miss ever

[broken patio]

So much splooge came out

[pulsar chasm]

fh3 better than 6?

actually there isn't loads to target there

[broken patio]

@pulsar chasm fuck man I kinda like Sa and petro

And I've always been the biggest rotating keepers hater

But for early bb and the lack of keeper options it makes some sense

[pulsar chasm]

yeah

week 1 tho like ffs

[broken patio]

Is what it is

[pulsar chasm]

petro +areola/sa

is what i would do

gw9 looks best for the both of them

if youwanted to bench boost

NFO + BUR

gw11 sucks too damn

[slim bane]

No we’re ok at them

But because we limit xG so well most of the remaining goals are either gonna be howlers, great goals or set pieces

[lone glade]

whos MDC

[lone thorn]

Maxim DeCuyper

[broken patio]

In that week also, Steve has wolves (bet on 0-0 since you have Sa and Steve), and Leeds have west ham, both playable in a bb

[latent depot]

I looked into this the other day. Milenkovic got DCs 0/2 vs Arsenal. Murrilo got 1/2. I'm benching both for Christie and a TBC 5.0/5.5 attacker

[broken patio]

Well, they got a clean sheet in one of the fix

[latent depot]

3-0 in the away fix

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And murillo got CBIT in that game

[obtuse shoal]

So that’s +2 -1. Not that much worth.

I try to see DC as the cs bonus a midfielder gets. A nice extra, but hardly something to judge someone by.

[broken patio]

Happens much more often than that though

Murillo got his CBIT in over half of his games last season

Most cleans was arsenal with 13

And it's twice as many points

So, it's more significant than the cs points for mids

[obtuse shoal]

I just mean. If it’s so that defs get the dcs in tough games. That’s also games where you more easily take 2 goals.

[latent depot]

I'm starting Christie GW3-5 over VVD/NFO/EVE, hoping for 10-12 points

Probably getting Nketiah/5.0 Palace CAM to cover the other NFO/EVE GW4-5

After Eze sale obv

Or whichever 5.5 Mid starts for Villa

If Xhaka is 5.0, he replaces Christie

[lavish parcel]

Gakpo to my team, here we go

Diaz to Bayern is confirmed

[lone thorn]

i'm alr there

[lavish parcel]

I was doubtful if he might not leave this season

If they announce Isak, I am so mudded

I'll have to reshuffle my team for him

[cedar hull]

Was like 1.5xg tho

[cedar hull]

This isn't true fwiw, DC's are evenly split between top 10 and bottom 10

Tark got 11 clean sheets worth of DC as well, that proves it's worth to me

[zenith jolt]

I think it's fair, often the player does well to intervene and there's variance in whether the team regains possession afterwards

[obtuse shoal]

Wait I don’t get that tackle lost. So if you attempt a tackle but don’t succeed, it still counts?

[zenith jolt]

Yes essentially

[pulsar chasm]

so that makes xhaka viable

[cedar hull]

It's just saying the tackles stat in cbit is tackles attempted, regardless of completion

[obtuse shoal]

Seems quite crazy.

[quick dawn]

you can build such a good no salah team

[orchid plank]

Solanke yet to return to team training - seems likely the forward won't feature against Arsenal

[cedar hull]

Tbf the bulk of DC comes from clearances, like 50-60% for most

[pulsar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/mathys-tel-telefon-mathys-bayern-fc-bayern-gif-2982623118961564315

[obtuse shoal]

Even with solanke fit. They got so many attackers that can play.

[shrewd dust]

damn munoz is much better for dc than i thought

[jolly solstice]

What's a NPxAttDef

Non pen expected...?

[pulsar chasm]

i thought the original email was classiic’s 😭

[jolly solstice]

Mb

[jolly solstice]

Lool

That's so dumb

[cedar hull]

You think I put in effort? I go to analcord every now and then to steal their hard work

How do I fit Munoz + lacroix + gab + tark + Murillo + vvd + milenkovic in a team

[violet temple]

smart man

[pulsar chasm]

was surprised but haven’t seen it anywhere else

[slim bane]

4/7

[pulsar chasm]

just seen a video of vvd taking free kicks

[quick dawn]

Bradley 5.0 option?

[broken patio]

You can build such a good car if you don't bother with the engine and use that space for other things

[carmine arch]

Tinker Tinker Tinker

[slim bane]

And leave it in the museum

[cedar hull]

Can you do palmer? 15 goals, 17.3xg, 8 assists , 10.9xa

[slim bane]

Happy enough with my picks that I have on the list then

Vvd gab Munoz lacroix gak

[cedar hull]

also gab over vvd on vapm now

[latent depot]

no? too obvious for me to bother

[cedar hull]

mcgrr taking out his konsa rage at me

[latent depot]

I don't have the 0.5 for Gapko over Rogers had Gakpo for ages. bro prob has Diaz's 28 starts, 8 subs tho, so...

[slim bane]

I have both

[latent depot]

Gakpo one of those players where you can't use xGI90 cos he plays 70

[latent depot]

+11 based on +3 appearance points were he played under 60 (injury sub) and +8 based on some mix of additional clean sheets and extra goal (3G on over 4 xG, but not sure 0.16xG90 is repeatable)

basically, Arsenal 16 clean sheets pretty reasonable

[cedar hull]

yeah im struggling to pick my 5 now, need tark/gab news

[latent depot]

I'm on Raya, Gabriel niggle too much noise, also his VAPM is pretty dependent on his obv unpredictable goals

I think he takes fewer shots with a new CF

Arsenal legit needed his set piece threat last season

so that 0.16xG90 might fall below 0.1

[slim bane]

Gyok is not great at headers

It’ll be our best aerial threat doing that run

Which is gab when fit

[latent depot]

6'5

[slim bane]

[slim bane]

Or so I’ve heard and seen on compilations

And tested on efootball

he cannot fucking head the ball lmaoo

[cedar hull]

yeah gyok is a flat track bully but cant header its weird

[latent depot]

oh, 6'2, where did I read 6'5? prob his dating profile

[slim bane]

similar to Arsenal I had to tweak my playstyle to work with him

And after that he was a beast

[latent depot]

what's your bench Ayy

[slim bane]

Shite

[latent depot]

Xhaka 5.0

[slim bane]

Its loading wait

In the tunnel rn can’t send lmaoo

but I’m alighting soon

There we go

I sacced watkins

[latent depot]

wtf triple Palace

[cedar hull]

where are you bro

[slim bane]

On the train

[marsh chasm]

Double forest or Everton defence?

[cedar hull]

forest imo

[slim bane]

Dk about mateta yet but ez jump to whoever at 7.5

[latent depot]

why don't you get Rodon? Esteve is to cover GW2 if you pick a Spurs defender IMO

[slim bane]

oh I was on rodon but got vvd in for him

Haven’t done research lol

[latent depot]

Burnley conceding 100+ goals this year

[pale tiger]

no trafford

rodon time

[slim bane]

But my bench won’t look as nice

😭

[pale tiger]

purple gang

[latent depot]

Gabriel niggle about to ruin you anyway

my squad aesethic is

[slim bane]

Saliba is the same

[slim bane]

Nice

[hollow ermine]

Munoz piss off

[latent depot]

I could do Sanchez+Gakpo over Raya+Rogers to maximise the alternating red/blue aesthetic

[slim bane]

Could also get wood over Solanke

[cedar hull]

mateta works too

[latent depot]

Wood doesn't play Brighton for ages, no thanks

[hollow ermine]

G +/- xG?

[violet temple]

I'll be running this personally

[hollow ermine]

Mcgrr

I have question

[wanton whale]

Just a heads up, rashford isn’t in the prem 😃

[latent depot]

?

[violet temple]

Yeah placeholder!

[wanton whale]

Oh I see looks great then

[latent depot]

reposting cos I found an error. idea is Wood was over 4G over xG so deducted 24 points (2 bonus per goal about right for a forward). +1 point for a sub appearance point

[hollow ermine]

Can you do VAPM x price x 38 to determine how to determine many points I playing will score over the course of the season to pick players in your team

[zenith jolt]

Brother what

[latent depot]

Yeah you could, just need to add 76 at the end for appearance points

[zenith jolt]

Autopick ahh

[quick dawn]

bruno actually had 11 dcs per game?

[violet temple]

shockkk

yeah I haven't tried building a team yet

[hollow ermine]

Ah fairs

Doesn’t that mean value = points?

Well long term

[cedar hull]

to an extent

more value doesnt always mean more points

[elder cargo]

Bruno..

https://tenor.com/view/russell-westbrook-intresting-interview-interesting-coy-gif-9234984

[hollow ermine]

Examples?

[cedar hull]

well value is about points per million in essence

haaland got more points than murillo, even though murillo has twice the value

[quick dawn]

i heard bruno averaged 11 dcs per game

[cedar hull]

the best value team isnt the best team by a margin

[quick dawn]

if you get to 12 thats almost an assist extra per game

i want marmoush as well though

[cedar hull]

gabriel still injured btw

[quick dawn]

vvd actually could be a trap

lpool might not keep many cs in opening fix

[jolly solstice]

Who isn't a trap lmao

[quick dawn]

i think players like murillo will be a cheat code if they get the dcs most games

people are underrating dcs

[jolly solstice]

Expected CS for pool is like 2.06 in the first 6 lmao

Highest is arsenal at 2.28

[jolly solstice]

Exactly

[quick dawn]

id go tark for sure but hes just injured

[jolly solstice]

If I'm confident that gakpo is nailed (since some pool fans think ekitike will not start at LW if they get isak) I'd gladly downgrade wirtz to gakpo and upgrade my 4.5 def to a 5.5 lmao

One like tark or milen

[marsh chasm]

Is he going to miss gw1

[quick dawn]

probably

i do think gakpo is a good bet

[jolly solstice]

But gakpo just reminds me of the jota pick I made at the start of last season

Too unpredictable

[quick dawn]

didnt i pick jota and he scored

or was that previous season

[jolly solstice]

24 25

[quick dawn]

anyway if he gets benched or smth you just sell to whichever mid looks good

[jolly solstice]

I'm certain he didn't return for the first 7 and I wced him out

And he returned for like 2 or 3 GWs straight

Fkn Diaz lmao

[latent depot]

Gakpo prob 28 starts 8 subs (so Diaz from last season) instead of 23 starts 12 subs

[quick dawn]

does my no salah team not look crazy

i mean i might switch it but you can play around with no salah

hes 7 mil more than gakpo thats kinda crazy

[jolly solstice]

Well I mean i don't wanna waste FTs

[latent depot]

You'll be confident captaining him so it's really not terrible if Salah averages 7ppm

[jolly solstice]

Esp on min risks

[quick dawn]

gakpo has to be better value if he starts

but ig you can get both

[latent depot]

Gakpo at 5ppm would be better value than Salah at 7ppm, but you're just not captaining him

[quick dawn]

i could gw1

[latent depot]

Salah prob 100% eo GW1

[quick dawn]

probably more

[jolly solstice]

What is EO at gw1

[latent depot]

I don't like EO arguments but the upside just doesn't exist elsewhere

[cerulean cape]

Eo from engaged managers

[quick dawn]

i can have like 6 premiums though

[cerulean cape]

Most teams have about 8

If we're counting 5.5m def as premium

[quick dawn]

not counting defenders

[cerulean cape]

Which they ate

[quick dawn]

or 7.5s

[cerulean cape]

Are

[latent depot]

Why wouldn't you count defenders

[quick dawn]

well they are cheap

compared to attackers

[latent depot]

Those 5.5s are going to get 160-180 points

[cerulean cape]

Not relative

5.5m def is more of a premium if you compare palmer as a premium to salah

[jolly solstice]

5mil gk is mid priced now

Or has it always been

[cerulean cape]

We had 6m gks

Hart was 7m one year?

[latent depot]

Yeah 6 was dumb

7 was a long time ago

Showing your age

[cerulean cape]

I played fantasy football in 2004 so ye

[jolly solstice]

Definitely over 30

Maybe 40

[cerulean cape]

04/05 champion lfg

[jolly solstice]

Damn

[latent depot]

Is that on your CV

[jolly solstice]

I wish my school had that passion

[cerulean cape]

Chess was my first trophy

[jolly solstice]

What's yr elo

[cerulean cape]

Don't play now, maybe 1100

[latent depot]

4 digit is solid

[cerulean cape]

04/05 was when andy Johnson scored 9 pens

In his 20 goal season

[cedar hull]

what was brad friedels year

[cerulean cape]

Palmer 1.0

[cerulean cape]

02/03 maybe

When they came 6th

[cedar hull]

still highest scoring keeper of all time man

[little delta]

is tark really gonna still be injured

i wanted to buy

[broken patio]

Vvd Murillo milenkovic Munoz gang

[latent depot]

What, Tark still out? What about Branthwaite?

Big at the back in shambles tbh

[broken patio]

I don't wanna go near Everton if tark is out Ngl

Woke up this morning to find petrol and sa in my team... That can't be right

[cedar hull]

lacroix and munoz

[wanton whale]

Fpl chat overreacting to pre season friendlys

[broken patio]

Wirtz scoring Vs Yokohama FM is huge news

[wanton whale]

5 mins ago pool assets were an avoid coz they werent winning but this goal changes everything 😭

[silent jasper]

might stay away from VVD or Pool def, 0 CS so far other than the England friendlies 😭

[wanton whale]

im sure they'll play better when it matters

[silent jasper]

hopefully those in fpl chats will stay away from the likes of VVD/Kerkez

while we cook with it

[cedar hull]

slot doesnt seem like the kinda guy to let this shit slide come gw1

[wanton whale]

we saw what happened with quansah tbf

[cedar hull]

mate hes selling half the team after winning the league like he did with feyenoord

[silent jasper]

Frimpong assist hmm

[wanton whale]

hes playing rw coz salah is off

[cedar hull]

swear nyoni scores in all the preaseasons

[wanton whale]

which wont happen itl

[cedar hull]

frimpong averages 70mins btw

[wanton whale]

yeah he'll be off before salah

[broken patio]

Frimpong still yet to play RB in preseason

[quick dawn]

See Bradley is cooking

I actually think bradley will start multiple games

Where would you spend money here

[wanton whale]

bin bradley

go for VVD

[quick dawn]

Do we not think bradley is gonna start

[wanton whale]

bradley and frimpong are competing for the same spot

so no

[quick dawn]

Frimpong hasnt played rb a single time it seems

[wanton whale]

thats pre season

hes not gonna be playing rw

[silent jasper]

Nice
Good to know thanks!

[quick dawn]

I am confident bradley will start the season and so are pool fans

[wanton whale]

its a huge risk to take this early

and you have the extra money itb so its not needed

just go for VVD

[silent jasper]

Yeah this should be the way I suppose
Pool dont really have the depth on RB besides those 2 mentioned

[cedar hull]

is this an autopick team

[quick dawn]

no its a goated team

[cedar hull]

with 1 captaincy option 🔥

[wanton whale]

Pretty much yeah I’m avoiding any pool defender that isn’t VVD

[quick dawn]

if bradley starts every pre season game and community shield he will start gw1

[cedar hull]

the problem with that team isnt bradley

[silent jasper]

He is like the Saliba kind of player, core player + starts every game unless injured/suspended yeah
Safest pick and I am surprised he isnt 6.5M lol..

[quick dawn]

well im trying no salah drafts

but the attack looks insane

[wanton whale]

Yeah no brainer for me with cbit

[quick dawn]

the cbit isnt that high is it

if lpool dont keep cs in the first 3 its not amazing

[silent jasper]

Will you have Saliba/Gabriel in your team if they are fit? I think Arsenal defence is one of the best ITL.

[lavish parcel]

I think it's worth waiting for Liverpool or arsenal defenders until WC

[quick dawn]

i can see them not keeping any cleans in their first 3

im gonna start bradley hype

[wanton whale]

They aren’t good for cbit so the only one I’d consider is Gab and maybe Raya

But gab isn’t fit rn

[silent jasper]

I fell for the Raya trap multiple times so probably not him
Gabriel noo

[quick dawn]

most of the premium defs are bad for cbit

munoz is good

[wanton whale]

Not true

[quick dawn]

the 6 mil ones are

[cedar hull]

then get some 5.5s

[marsh chasm]

So Munoz is good for cbit and attacking returns?

[cedar hull]

yeah

well relative to a fb

[marsh chasm]

Anyone know how many points he would’ve got last year from cbit?

[little delta]

everyone on munoz now??

[cedar hull]

14

[zenith jolt]

not spending 5.5 on munoz from gw1 with those fix

but he will be in my team at some point

(says guy with lacroix 5th bench)

[hollow ermine]

So value is wiser cause it allows best use of funds I’m guessing

[slim bane]

Yessir

Cos of limited budget

If it was draft for example where there’s no budget

Then you go for pure points

[quick dawn]

Lacroix is good but 3rd bench is a waste

My only real bench player is esteve

[little delta]

fuck gab still out

[cedar hull]

why cant gab have a normal gw1

[slim bane]

Wasn’t in training yet

[wanton whale]

ffs man why us already

Is there any actual decent 4.5s

[slim bane]

It’s what we signed up for

[wanton whale]

You aren’t wrong

[cedar hull]

@latent depot

Absolute ambiguity 😭

[slim bane]

Did you see that shot he rifled in during training

wowee

[latent depot]

I'm on Raya, so whatevs

[slim bane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/s/Nmj3DBDX3m

[lone glade]

classiic why u gooning on gakpo

is watkins rogers double up too much

[slim bane]

I was on that

But went to mateta instead

[lone glade]

gyokeres wood solanke for me i think

rn

[wanton whale]

Gakpo is underrated

[lone glade]

isnt triple pool and overload

[slim bane]

isn’t quadruple better

pool are literally one of top 4 teams in the league rn

[wanton whale]

For some maybe but he’s my fav 7.5 mid

Could go 7.5 fwd ig

[quick dawn]

underpriced i think

gakpo can cover salah guys!

[lone glade]

do you guys have gyokeres

[wanton whale]

He could be depending on his minutes

[wanton whale]

Ofc

Will take him out if havertz continues to start tho

[lone glade]

why would he

[slim bane]

Yessir

Hattrick gw1 and hattrick gw2

[quick dawn]

i think havertz gw1 then gyok maybe

[wanton whale]

Arteta likes to ease players in and havertz has been good

[cedar hull]

Gakpo? Haven't had him in a draft yet, but he's a great option

[violet temple]

can ekitike not play lw tho?

If they sign isak

[slim bane]

We have 3 more preseason games I think

Enough to ease

[lone glade]

how do i make this better 0 itb

[cedar hull]

Yeah ig, he's still first choice

[wanton whale]

Yeah hopefully he gets solid minutes in those

[slim bane]

4.5 4.5 to 5.0 4.0

Def

[violet temple]

Don't get virgil easy

[quick dawn]

fine team

yeah laxrois maybe

[wanton whale]

Lower his ownership 😈

[slim bane]

even beef is hesitant on MDC

[violet temple]

gvardiol> lowkey

[lone glade]

what is mdc bro

[wanton whale]

Hell nah

[lone glade]

people underrating cucurella

[silent jasper]

Pickford to Petro I think will be good, use the 1.0 to upgrade probably on Welbeck to Wood or AWB to Tarkowski or other 5.5 def

[wanton whale]

De cuyper lad

[lone glade]

oh

[slim bane]

I don’t mind him

If gab is not ready ill get him

[violet temple]

?

apparently when he plays cb he's insane on cbits and when he plays lb he's attacking

Win win type shit

[cedar hull]

I don't know where you heard that he's mid on cbits at cb

[violet temple]

idk I read some Twitter post

cala u get all ur info from there don't sob that

[lone glade]

petro>kelleher right

[violet temple]

na

[cedar hull]

Ya

[wanton whale]

Has to be reliable tho 👀

[cedar hull]

Petrol >

[slim bane]

Ruins colour palette tho

[violet temple]

depends who ur rotating with smoothie

[lone glade]

triple palace what the helly

[violet temple]

Warra team

[slim bane]

Just need Xhaka 5.0

[wanton whale]

This team catapults you to top 10k or busts

[lone glade]

why are we gooning to palace

[silent jasper]

should be for now, although Brentford fans are saying their def might be better despite losing a few of their players tbh

[cedar hull]

Cbits

[slim bane]

Value for money

[cedar hull]

Gab and tark potentially out

[wanton whale]

Also corner flag kicking man

[cedar hull]

Munoz lacroix next best

[wanton whale]

Is goated

[cedar hull]

And mateta is just best striker in the league

[lone glade]

aight team done

[slim bane]

Munoz is TAA from 4 seasons ago

[violet temple]

the munoz hype is crazy

[wanton whale]

Munoz is the 5.5 mid everyone’s been dying for

[slim bane]

Technically he’s a 6M mid

1.5M more than base

[lone glade]

this is the one

only thing is i cant get wirtz

[violet temple]

real ones will use munoz in a 3atb and get 8 mids

[slim bane]

He scored tdy didn’t he

[violet temple]

Attackers*

lightwork

[lone glade]

tap in

[orchid plank]

[slim bane]

10 points tho

[slim bane]

Green doesn’t look good on you

Not with the United badge beside

[violet temple]

okay I'll demote him for u

[orchid plank]

yea I took of the badge before when I had the colour

[slim bane]

You need to pick a server flair

Then there’s more distance

[slim bane]

Only thing is I can’t get quad ars

smh

[wanton whale]

you reckon we can ask to change the helper colour

[lone glade]

they just changed it 😭

when i got it helper colour was bright yellow

[wanton whale]

ye ik but it would be cool to get a bright colour

[violet temple]

U just got here I wouldn't get so high and mighty

[lone glade]

look at these newgens complaining

[wanton whale]

thats not what i was trying to do 🥺

[violet temple]

I'm joking cala calm down

That colors better than the mods one at least

[lone glade]

gimme brais mendez

for a offer

[wanton whale]

30m?

i can lower it

[lone glade]

keys

[wanton whale]

28

[violet temple]

smooth if u go more than 20 ur cooked vro

[lone glade]

im not

[violet temple]

also #wc_fantasy shit helpers

[wanton whale]

you offered 22.5 for him

[violet temple]

To get ur offer to increase

lol

[wanton whale]

so mean

[violet temple]

anyways I just bought my new mid

🔥

[wanton whale]

anyways take a look at my draft

[violet temple]

show

[wanton whale]

Tark will probably go

[slim bane]

Colour does NOT slap here

[violet temple]

idk about mateta but wouldnt it be better for u to get a 7.5m mid instead of fwd?

Or are the mids kinda bad

[wanton whale]

the only good 7.5s would be gakpo or eze

[slim bane]

Gakpo the only one I considered

[wanton whale]

ye fr

[violet temple]

oh and eze might leave yea

[wanton whale]

ik im sorry

thats a bb1 draft btw

[quick dawn]

i think this is very good

id get a forest over munoz though

[slim bane]

Not sure I trust Forest

completely got fucked over end of last season

[quick dawn]

palace have bad fix though

murillo is a dc monster

[wanton whale]

more cbit for lacroix

[quick dawn]

i have lacroix

[wanton whale]

Munoz is fine as hes so attacking

[marsh chasm]

Is van de ven any good for cbit?

[wanton whale]

also cbit potential

[orchid plank]

5.5 Winger with cbit

[little delta]

I like murillo way more than milen

Probably js going with one is the best choice

[wanton whale]

i keep dreaming of going both

imagine a double forest cs with murillo cbit and milen goal 🤤

[slim bane]

Same for palace but munoz

🔥

[west marsh]

“Imagine a forest clean sheet with a Murillo cs”
So just a forest clean sheet?

[wanton whale]

i meant cbit lol

fixed

[west marsh]

Kk

Senesi goal GW2 with a cs and DPs and I’m cooking

[little delta]

you getting both

[wanton whale]

if tark is out yeah probably

[little delta]

i was planning to get tark and gab but tark no idea what’s going on and gab still not training

so maybe i’ll have to get munoz or milenkovic

[wanton whale]

yeah its annoying

tempted by cucu as well

[cedar hull]

Xhaka 5.0 I think

[wanton whale]

meh

[cedar hull]

Newcastle rejected again lol

[zenith jolt]

meh his last year was bad for cbit but ange system very different