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[cedar hull]

He's a striker with poor finishing

Other than that he's good

[zealous forum]

I started with him last season and he was shit then got injured too

[cedar hull]

0.43xgi adjusted for his shit finishing

[latent depot]

Fyi Enzo Fernandez has 0.43xGI90

[copper hinge]

@cerulean cape Can you do an announcement to tell people to stop discussing in #fpl_news ? I'm just tryna scroll through without distractions

[prime plinth]

Also factor in key attackers injured

[cedar hull]

Fair point, but don't think he should be the same as Watkins when pens aren't guaranteed

[cerulean cape]

Will do if it gets too bad

[cerulean cape]

This is it boys

[cedar hull]

Isak, Ndiaye, Milenkovic, Petro vs Sels, branthwaite, Solanke, Watkins

[acoustic edge]

B

but if there’s room for a 5th midfielder instead of watkins that’s what i’d do

[cedar hull]

yeah it has more balance

even if isak goes pool?

ndiaye just a 6.5 placeholder for me

[cerulean cape]

I love watkins tbh

[cedar hull]

yeah i dont rate solanke and/or watkins

[cerulean cape]

I didnt rate solanke before

But fixtures are good

Nailed

Have him over bowen

[acoustic edge]

i rate solanke the most out of any fwd option

[acoustic edge]

but not difficult lol

[cerulean cape]

I've grown as he saves me 0.5m too over a bowen

[cedar hull]

youve gotta decrease his xg by about 15-20%

and unknown quantity with new manager rn

[acoustic edge]

fairs

i don’t see who’s better though

[cedar hull]

I dont think hes the worst option, hes obviously decent, but id have Mateta, maybe wood, and wissa is transfer dependent

[acoustic edge]

90xmins, on pens, highest season projected goals out of any asset in that range by a distance

[cedar hull]

projected goals smh

[acoustic edge]

there’s a reason betting markets make money smhsmh

[cedar hull]

62.3xg, 79 goals vs 98.8 xg, 89 goals

career stats for mateta vs solanke

[acoustic edge]

i’d rather have someone who creates 5 xg and scores 2 goals than someone who creates 1 xg and scores 2 goals

(i’m aware of career length but fit my narrative please 😭)

[cedar hull]

mateta had 13.5xg and 3.2 xa in 2648 mins, solanke had 10.9xg and 2.9xa in 2201 mins

last season

[acoustic edge]

we’ll see who gets more points in their respective first 6 gws 🫡🫡

[cedar hull]

just relaying the stats

[acoustic edge]

😭didn’t mean it in a bad way

[cedar hull]

neither did I

could never hate you triocta

[cerulean cape]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[silent jasper]

I have some worry on Solanke because Spurs have Rich and Tel in their squad

[latent depot]

Solanke is playing 90

[slim bane]

Was he involved in the goals tho

[cerulean cape]

Its fine

He has good seasons every 2nd season

This is it

[cerulean cape]

Solanke similar to toney

Frank knows ball

Also I like the 0.5m he gives me

[latent depot]

Soblanke had 0.66 xGI90 during the 18 games (7G on 10ish xG and 3A) he and most of the squad were fit for before mid Jan

[slim bane]

New manager tho

[silent jasper]

Hmm that's very good
Hopefully we can see something from him

[little delta]

solankes always been in my team like him alot

[cerulean cape]

I never owned him last year

But lack of fwds now

And he's significantly better than the 6.5ms

Wood vs solanke I'm choosing Wood every day

Oof vvd was cooked by leao

He's too old now

Out of my team

[silent jasper]

I got cooked last season for not picking Wood
Not gonna make that mistake again

[little delta]

I got both rn

[cerulean cape]

I do now

I dont like sels/branthwaite vs pickford/milenkovic but I dont have the extra 0.5m

[cedar hull]

Seems like it's 5 back + solanke in here now

[little delta]

How big is def con?

Back 5 maybe too much?

[silent jasper]

No Wood?

[cerulean cape]

4 atb with anderson in mid is equivalent

Actually i lie, that saves 0.5m

[cedar hull]

[obtuse shoal]

Makes it impossible to divert to a Watkins, Isak or gyok if he suddenly becomes big.

[little delta]

Surely 4 atb better

[cerulean cape]

If we knew which is better for sure then we wouldn't be playing the game

[cedar hull]

I'm on back 5 + isak though

[cerulean cape]

I am 5atb with watkins too

[obtuse shoal]

You just said + solanke

[cedar hull]

I mean I have isak mateta

I'm not on solanke train

[cerulean cape]

I dont need subs

[little delta]

That does look good

[cerulean cape]

Stick with this til we know the hidden gems

[obtuse shoal]

I just want to have enough flexibility to change things.

[cerulean cape]

We have 3 fts to change things gw4 after the IB

Really dont see the need to be flexible for gw2-3

Old rules 2fts max maybe

[quick dawn]

Solanke is my n1 but idk my 2nd fwd

Probably wood or bowen rn unless i get a 6.5

[humble bane]

wth

[quick dawn]

Also depends if tark is injured

I think tark might not play gw1

[little delta]

Says who

[quick dawn]

well he had a massive injury and might not be fully fit

the everton fan who made a post on reddit

[latent depot]

Same, but I'm hoping for Gyokeres 9.0

[quick dawn]

he probably is 9

wdyt about o’brien or mykolenko instead of tark

[latent depot]

Terrible

[quick dawn]

this is so template

eh i still dunno about tark

[lone glade]

double nfo def is template?

[quick dawn]

in this thread it is

[violet temple]

If ur going big on defence I guess

[lone glade]

im chilling with milenkovic

[pulsar chasm]

nah

[violet temple]

I might get only sels but I haven't really built a proper draft

or rotate 2 4.5s and get one

not sure yet

[quick dawn]

well it depends if i want christie

christie looks like a decent sub for anyone

[little delta]

what’s wrong w tark?

[quick dawn]

Christie is 6th on 16 defensive actions per 90

[quick dawn]

Was/is injured

[orchid plank]

solanke injured already

fairs

[little delta]

how long

[quick dawn]

Wow

[orchid plank]

minor ankle injury only thing ive seen

[little delta]

yeh js seen that

[little delta]

this looks good but i’m not sure abt wirtz yet

[quick dawn]

Well yeah can be marmoush or a fwd

Or gakpo but could be risky

I think gakpo is kinda safe unless isak signs

[little delta]

he should be signing

[quick dawn]

Cant believe lpool won the league and are making like 5 massive new signings

Wirtz isak guehi kerkez frimpong ekitike

Thats 6

[silent jasper]

Guehi isn't comfirmed
Isak is kinda 50/50 depending on Newcastle's stance

[carmine arch]

Heavy at the back dammm

[acoustic edge]

yeah 9/11

template alr developing 🔥

[little delta]

which two different

[acoustic edge]

pickford semenyo for kelleher wood (christie down to 4.5 to accommodate)

[quick dawn]

i did have another 6 mil def

but i kinda like christie

[acoustic edge]

i like that backline

and the midfield a lot

[little delta]

yeah same but i don’t like kelleher tbh

and not sure with wirtz yet

[acoustic edge]

yeah kelleher just feels inferior to other keepers iwl

like 7.5 + kelleher < pickford jsl

[quick dawn]

Could be petrovic

[marsh chasm]

Anything I should change?

[quick dawn]

I usually pick a 4.5

[little delta]

or even js downgrade christie and get sanchez or sels

[little delta]

Is zabyarni staying at bou

[quick dawn]

Dunno

[acoustic edge]

i don’t wanna pick ur team for you, but isak marmoush aren’t worth rotating 4.5s and anderson imo

[quick dawn]

Bournemouth always sell everyone then still come midtable

[acoustic edge]

yes to the message

but minor apparently

[pulsar chasm]

jsl gimmick has to stop

[acoustic edge]

hop on semenyo

[little delta]

i don’t like jsl

[pulsar chasm]

just get welbeck

[pulsar chasm]

nah

have evanilson rn

[acoustic edge]

warra 70min player

kroupi gonna take 20 mins a game

[lone glade]

bro u have a shot spammer who gets 1 goal every 5 weeks

[pulsar chasm]

plays more than that but

[acoustic edge]

20g/a player btw

[pulsar chasm]

evanilson gets the chances just worried about his finishing

[acoustic edge]

i lwk think poor finishing is overrated as a concept

like most players revert to mean when given enough xg

(otherwise they wouldn’t be employed by prem clubs lol)

[pulsar chasm]

don’t really agree with that line of thinking

but if that’s what you thought

why do you have JSL

[acoustic edge]

i don’t

and jsl is a pen play anyway

[pulsar chasm]

wolves don’t get penalties

[acoustic edge]

valid

semenyo might be the ode of this szn

[little delta]

are you alr sold on wirtz

[lone glade]

double eve and nfo cs wipe daggers

[little delta]

i rate semenyo alot

but idk if i will buy

[acoustic edge]

who else yk

shuffle defence to get .5 and pickup wissa maybe but

[acoustic edge]

3cs each first 6

[cedar hull]

wissa staying at brentford it seems

[prime plinth]

Avoid all spurs players

[pulsar chasm]

doesn’t seem like he’s going to play tho

[cedar hull]

peak rmt moment

[latent depot]

Tbf villa are among the best at home

But away they are shocking

Relegation tier defence away and UCL tier defence at home is wild

[wanton whale]

hes got a point

[latent depot]

Turns out the average of elite home defence and shite away defence is midtable

[latent depot]

Esteve had 7.8 cbits per start in the Championship

12/46 games he hit the threshold

bro is going to hit 10 very regularly

442 might be the play because Esteve is such a good first sub

4.0/4.0/4.5/4.5 bench

he hit 10 and 13 vs Leeds along with 2 clean sheets 👀

[cedar hull]

Worry about their defence without Trafford tbf

Have you checked Leeds defenders?

The 442 is a shout though, very good 4.0 options

[latent depot]

Leeds defenders aren't nearly as clear

[cedar hull]

I guess with their style of play it makes sense

They had 10xga less than Burnley though

[obtuse shoal]

You would expect Burnley to concede more than 1 goal regularly ofcourse.

[latent depot]

yeah but he has a floor of 2 with 3 probably the modal return

some 4 pointers and occasional jackpot

that's fine for 1st bench

problem with 442/451 is that I can't find 6 attackers that I want

[cerulean cape]

65% 2 shots

[wanton whale]

thomas frank ball

[obtuse shoal]

McGrrr sees a cs

[broken patio]

Guys Ayari scored again in preseason

Also Kadioglu played LB in the 2nd half!

Beware DeCuyper owners

If Ayari keeps this up the our final 3 games then I'm gonna go for him over Baleba

11s for both halves

[elder cargo]

Rutter playing 9 minutes doesn’t look great

Surely he’s benched for Welbeck

Down the line

[broken patio]

Yep

Welbz 9 Rutter 10 is first 11

But then I can see welbz early sub, Rutter 9 gruda 10

Or just the odd rest for welbz

[latent depot]

Welbeck is only playing 70 when he starts anyway

[obtuse shoal]

Did you count his defcons?

[latent depot]

He isn't going to be on the pitch long enough to collect enough DCs

[west marsh]

Can’t tell if this is amazing or awful

[wanton whale]

Not good

Team is not balanced

[west marsh]

Wdym?

[wanton whale]

having salah haaland and palmer means your mid and attack is lacking

[west marsh]

If I were to get rid of 1, who would you recommend

[wanton whale]

probably haaland

idm a salah haaland draft tho

[pulsar chasm]

rutterrr

[wanton whale]

why do you love rutter so much

[pulsar chasm]

good pick

[wanton whale]

isnt he 6m?

[pulsar chasm]

correct

[wanton whale]

could just spend an extra 0.5 for two better brighton assets

[pulsar chasm]

you’re unfamiliar

and that’s okay

[wanton whale]

ive watched him irl hes good

[lavish parcel]

Would have liked a bit of konsa+ senesi rotation to win the whole thing

[quick dawn]

Tark is missing

[wanton whale]

Jesus and Wood on at the same time 👀

[latent depot]

both Tark and Branthwaite out

[wanton whale]

forest might play both

[latent depot]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

I might avoid Everton until wildcard, those initial fixtures look fraudulent af tbh

[cedar hull]

[quick dawn]

Munoz time?

[cedar hull]

I think we've been really underrating palace tbh, debating dropping one forest for Munoz today

[latent depot]

Leeds scored 61 goals at home vs 34 away

[wanton whale]

might start with eze if he stays

[cedar hull]

Did they just overperform at home and underperform away or massive difference?

[latent depot]

even if they did somewhat, that difference is too much to be explained away

we've seen Everton start badly 2 years in a row with decent fixtures, and they've got both CBs missing from preseason

[cedar hull]

It was overperformance tbf

61 goals 48.4 xg home 34 goals 40.7 xg away

point still stands ofc

[latent depot]

might just mean that I start with Tark instead of double/triple

[pulsar chasm]

think if everton are missing either tark or branth you dodge it

if they have both they are viable

[cedar hull]

yeah its tark or nothing for me

[pulsar chasm]

just have to wait and see who’s fit

[cedar hull]

and if they have neither def avoid

just waiting for info now

[elder cargo]

You forgot to mention their best player

[pulsar chasm]

he makes them better too

him being there means keane shouldn’t see a premier league pitch ever again

[wanton whale]

forest 3-0 down nice

[cedar hull]

theyre playing like a d team btw

[wanton whale]

i mean

[cedar hull]

ah didnt see second half

first half was dead fs

[wanton whale]

ye the first half team was ass

[latent depot]

@cerulean cape please may you pin the first 2 pages of FFS recalculated points totals

[cerulean cape]

Will do this tomorrow

[latent depot]

MGW staying? Wood

[zenith jolt]

rip anderson dream

[quick dawn]

could be better getting cbits

also is heaven an option

[cedar hull]

just get esteve

[quick dawn]

yes if i have 2 4 mil

like this

[cedar hull]

rodon/gudmundsson/reinildo more likely to get mins ig but heavens fine

[quick dawn]

yeah leeds ones are ok

heaven could be essential

[broken patio]

If Rutter gets consistent mins then I don't think it's clear that Mitoma is a better asset ngl

His problem last season was early subs

[wanton whale]

apart from welbeck im not really liking brighton attackers

[latent depot]

I'm not really liking brighton attackers

[pulsar chasm]

why is welbeck so superior

worried his role diminishes this year

[latent depot]

Moyes 💯 playing FPL with 5ATB

[quick dawn]

I think amad is under the radar

8g 8s on limited mins (injury)

[acoustic edge]

garner rwb is so haram

[acoustic edge]

boosted by him playing RAM for all his hauls

eg soton

[quick dawn]

Wasnt that wingback

Thats where he will play

[pulsar chasm]

reverse oop

what’s his price

[acoustic edge]

poo 🔥🔥

6.5

[pulsar chasm]

steep

that’s for every kid though

nice auto correct

leaving that there

[obtuse shoal]

Wait the most owned asset in the game is JP 👀

[acoustic edge]

cwc bro

[obtuse shoal]

Still

[acoustic edge]

if only he was 90xmins 😔

[broken patio]

He's back in

I want recognition when he's the top scoring 5.0 this season

[cedar hull]

beef fighting between head and heart everyday

[broken patio]

Baleba Vs ayari is this

But logic is I barely play them anyway

And I'd hate it if Ayari popped off and I was the guy saying 'he was in all my preseason drafts'

.

Side tangent but the way I choose a lot of 50/50s is I look at how I'd feel if they went wrong

And then I justify them on a psychological pov

[cedar hull]

brighton vs no brighton

[wanton whale]

https://tenor.com/view/aston-villa-avfc-ollie-watkins-astin-villa-goal-ollie-watkins-celebration-gif-5772090252103033262

[little delta]

wood scored 🔥

and watkins, like him too but don’t have him yet

[lavish parcel]

If mgw stays, I am staying with Wood and Watkins up front

Per 90 xgi are crazy for both

And basically both would have the same attack except elanga for NFO

[zenith jolt]

Inb4 watkins becomes template and moves to united day after deadline

[little delta]

Didn’t he sign till 2028 he will stay

rogers and watkins 🤩

[lavish parcel]

He was also linked to spurs no?

Bruh I just read he signed a deal

My bad

[tender cipher]

are we back?

ayari in is this real

tomorrow im gonna see hes out of bros team again

[cerulean cape]

Wood, bowen, watkins, bruno all scored

Holy cook out

[lavish parcel]

Anyone know why kluivert didn't play today?

[little delta]

I think watkins and wood over solanke for me now

also, who if you could only get one Wirtz or watkins?

[copper hinge]

I commend you guys for still tinkering teams

[zealous forum]

I haven't really started yet

[latent depot]

if anyone needs evidence of how dead forwards are now, just look at the last column

@cerulean cape what was Gakpo's adjusted points? also presume they haven't done position changes

[tender cipher]

Found this on Twitter @silent jasper LOL

[quick dawn]

Will be good if he plays

[cedar hull]

I thought Murillo was clear of milenkovic but now it's the other way around

[marsh chasm]

Why?

[latent depot]

I know, he's been in my team since day 1

[quick dawn]

Could go either way tbh

[latent depot]

both S-tier tho, along with Tark and Gabriel IF he gets close to xG and Arsenal improve to their usual 16ish clean sheets. VVD joins them if Liverpool improve to 16ish clean sheets as well

[latent depot]

this is what the data is suggesting

[quick dawn]

I think tarks gonna be injured though

[broken patio]

Im the biggest preacher for judge every pick individually but on some level I can't bring myself to double Everton def

And I feel similarly about forest

I feel safer with Munoz over milenkovic and then petrovic in goal

[quick dawn]

Yeah i have munoz rn

[broken patio]

Who knows whats going on with tark also, I guess all we can do is wait though

[cedar hull]

The best back 5 is clear right now, Munoz is a close 6th for me but misses out due to fix

[cedar hull]

Ndiaye 114 to 140 is more than I expected

[latent depot]

the data definitely prefers Lacroix

[cedar hull]

Munoz had some underperformance tbf

I'll go Munoz if tarks out or smth

[humble bane]

rotating 4.5s >>>

[cedar hull]

Wrong place my friend

Let me guess you got Bruno after the game last night

[humble bane]

no I'll kill bruno if gyokeres cooks

[broken patio]

For points per million its super close

[latent depot]

fwiw Gapko averaged 5.48ppm in his 23 starts, so 0.464 VAPM, which is only beaten by the 3 DC monster CBs

[broken patio]

Close enough that I'd rather just get Munoz and enjoy his monster hauls

If it's anything like previous seasons there will be times where budget literally doesn't matter

[cedar hull]

I don't think he will be an option by the end of the transfer window, rate the pick now though

Szoboszlai last year, gakpo this year, mcgrr and his pool picks

[latent depot]

wouldn't the front 3 be Gapko/Isak/Salah?

Diaz/Nunez leaving

[humble bane]

yuh

[cedar hull]

If isak joins, ekitike will compete for LW/CF like Jota did

[humble bane]

no chance ekitike displaces gakpo

imo

[latent depot]

not for a while at least

[humble bane]

gakpo is nailed in the team unless rodrygo

[latent depot]

oh yeah, Rodrygo

[quick dawn]

Idk i think theres a risk but im not lpool fan

[humble bane]

diaz is 99% out the door

[latent depot]

forgot Liverpool are building a superteam

[quick dawn]

Lemme see a draft with gakpo

[cedar hull]

Rodrygo isn't joining bro what

[quick dawn]

Ekitike has to play sometimes

He cost like 80 mil

[humble bane]

If we fail Isak I can see us going for Rodrygo ngl

thats the only way gakpo wont be nailed

[latent depot]

Gakpo was routinely subbed at 70-75, so Ekitike will got cameos maybe?

[humble bane]

I wish we'd hijack Fofana from everton

I just dont see Ekitike playing LW at all tbh 💀

[cedar hull]

Ekitike has the profile for that lw spot, gakpo is first choice of course, it's up to whether isak joins

[latent depot]

no, Isak would go there obv

[humble bane]

ohh fair

[cedar hull]

If isak doesn't join then they probably sign a winger

[humble bane]

if Isak joins I'll have 4xPool anyway so no space for gakpo 😞

[latent depot]

10.5 forward without penalties occasionally reverse OOP at LW

[humble bane]

Isak defo scoring 25 goals if he joins

[latent depot]

that will take away from Salah tho

[humble bane]

Wirtz and Salah are literally the best assisters in the league playing for the same team 💀

[cedar hull]

Said the Liverpool fan

[humble bane]

no just objectively

[cedar hull]

Yes definitely unbiased and objective

[humble bane]

if he managed it with jacob murphy he will definitely do it with salah+wirtz

[latent depot]

can see Salah scoring 25 and Isak 20, but then neither is worth their price

[cedar hull]

Don't diss Murphy here bro

[humble bane]

im not. but I think salah might be better than murphy

[latent depot]

big if true

[humble bane]

anyway just watch Ekitike in preseason

he will be fed

[latent depot]

he plays for liverpool, every attacker gets fed, but some fail to eat

Ekitike might be Nunez 2.0

[humble bane]

Tbh even if Nunez was our main ST I'd see him getting 15+ league goals 💀

[cedar hull]

Ekitike is a poor finisher statistically fwiw

[latent depot]

bro has 25 goals in 4800ish minutes across 3 seasons, so let's split those goals across 2 seasons instead... still not 15

[humble bane]

Wirtz fed him a hatrick

[latent depot]

preseason hero

[humble bane]

I think any half decent striker would score 15+ for us in this superteam tbh

[quick dawn]

yeah i would

gakpo draft

[latent depot]

Pretty set on this, just waiting on Gyokeres price and Tark/Branth news

[quick dawn]

i actually like it tbh

[humble bane]

wtf

that back 6 😭

🧑‍🌾

[cerulean cape]

Possibly same 10

Or at least 9, I really want watkins and bowen is calling me again especially after solanke injury

[acoustic edge]

wirtz could play lw

[silent jasper]

lmfao

[zenith jolt]

Close enough

[latent depot]

so did Lacroix

[little delta]

when are u guys looking to bb?

[latent depot]

Lacroix is Murrilenkovic tier if he hits his xGI

wow, I might downgrade VVD to Lacroix, bro is a monster

[prime plinth]

Bb1 team cook

[cedar hull]

I'm telling you we've been underrating palace assets

[prime plinth]

Just pretend madders is a placeholder. Waiting for the strikers to load in

[cedar hull]

Mateta/Munoz/lacroix is a very good triple up

[latent depot]

why Mateta and not Sarr

[cerulean cape]

Palace meh fixtures tho

[cedar hull]

Mateta eye test, very good striker

[prime plinth]

Forest kept mgw

They've only lost elanga

[cedar hull]

Sarr also spams shots for xg

[prime plinth]

Strong back line still with Anderson 6 as well

[cedar hull]

He's like a btec semenyo

[cerulean cape]

Wood stonks up

With mgw

Also mgw 7.5m is a scam

At least 7m for people to consider

[prime plinth]

If i go a 3 gw plan with bb1 and wc1. It is fine given fixtures

Wc4*

[cerulean cape]

Pras says fh6 is good

Play around that

And later wc

I dont disagree

[prime plinth]

Could have been lower. Not really though given links to Tottenham and city

[cerulean cape]

But bb1 with real team is hard

[little delta]

Yeah i was trying to make smth with bb1 too and i cant

[prime plinth]

Yeah i mean there's going to be different routes with all these chips. Wc4 and bb1 gets you maximum funds used and a chance to gain on lesser fixture teams

Jump on bandwagons

[little delta]

I like fh6 and wc13 too

I just don’t know when to Bb

[prime plinth]

I did what nobody else did last season with 2nd half chips and smashed it

Gained 2.5m in 11 gws

Went back down to 400s after haaland failure in 36 37

Wc25 am31-33 and tc was 24 or something I think for salah

Bb at the end for 37 or 38 because i didn't value it at all

[cerulean cape]

I think depth is important later in the season

So bb after wc13 is fine

Since were gonna carry a bench for 20 gws

Not sure which gw or how

But I want to maximise the start

[prime plinth]

It can be. I just think it is better to leave the last bench and gk as fodder

So you can upgrade the rest

[cerulean cape]

Also with DC, we dont need to make def changes imo

More fts for attackers potentially

[prime plinth]

Wc13 with afcon transfers seems like less value

No?

[broken patio]

Which means we have need to have space for them
Which is why I prefer 4atb to 5atb

[cerulean cape]

Ish but this means maximise fts til.gw12

Wc

[prime plinth]

Isn't an early wc covering more gws and early form players

[cerulean cape]

Use 2 fts gw15

And reset

Or bb 14? Gw 15 use 2fts to fix bench

[cerulean cape]

Yes

I always do this

[prime plinth]

Also fine

[cerulean cape]

But no clear early wc

Wc7 maybe

[broken patio]

I like the idea of using the 2 bench boosts in quick succession, before and after the gw19 midseason switch

[prime plinth]

I like wc4 personally

Palace pool etc

[broken patio]

You can have a stacked 15 around then, with 5ft from gw15 and use both bbs

[prime plinth]

Get a look at new assets for city spurs and chelsea

See if forest drop off

[broken patio]

Always a fan of an early WC

[prime plinth]

Everything has pros and cons

I think my strategy will remain an early wc given afcon transfers and bb1

[broken patio]

Double BB 18 19 ftw

[prime plinth]

My plan is risky if no salah but the upside in captaincy and team quality is there

Outside of gw1

That is the most difficult no salah draft captaincy week. Gw2 saka and gw3 was isak ig before the transfer news. Have to figure that out

[broken patio]

I just don't understand no Salah

Overthinking for the sake of it imo

[prime plinth]

Mgw gw1-3 seems nice

Brentford Brighton West ham

[acoustic edge]

i’d only bb1 if wc4 probably

[prime plinth]

Arsenal and Newcastle. 4m extra than palmer

[prime plinth]

Yeah maybe not as necessary if you go salah and cheapen the bb and team overall

[broken patio]

That list is wrong

Where is Ayari

[prime plinth]

If I went salah. Could push it out to wc7

Only issue with triple forest is if they show no recovery of form

Great fixtures till gw7 though

[acoustic edge]

review merchants ruining our beautiful game 😔😔

[prime plinth]

The main issue now with my no salah idea. Who do you captain in gw3 with isak out

Presumably out of Newcastle i mean

Who had leeds

[acoustic edge]

palmer

[prime plinth]

Yeah at home to Fulham is solid tbf

As long as Palmer has a more threatening role

Feel like some games he was dropping too deep.

[quick dawn]

Munoz feels better than lacroix but idk

I like picking one of them

[prime plinth]

Maybe it just seemed like that because of the lack of pts

[prime plinth]

Triple palace wc4

[quick dawn]

Hmm they actually do have the same xg90

But lacroix has no xa

[prime plinth]

Munoz might still have a little more short term upside in any given gw

[orchid plank]

Then the horrible fixtures from gw6

[prime plinth]

Argument for Richards Munoz Lacroix triple up

[quick dawn]

Whos the best bournemouth attacker

[prime plinth]

Richards can sit bench

[prime plinth]

We don't worry about that

[prime plinth]

Evanilson

Followed by semenyo with pts advantages in mids

[quick dawn]

What about kluivert

[orchid plank]

Optimal play

[quick dawn]

Kluivert has good stats

[prime plinth]

Pen merchant

Nah I'm hating idk how much is in it between semenyo and kluivert

[broken patio]

Their points per million is so similar

[prime plinth]

Strikers are kind of the worst value players now

[broken patio]

So, right not every bit of budget feels like it matters

But, usually that's not the case throughout the season

In which case Munoz is just better

[prime plinth]

Milenkovic only issue is relying on goals for that

And more so on cs to others

[broken patio]

Yeah it's goals Vs DC for Murillo

[prime plinth]

Prefer Murrilo. Might start with both

[latent depot]

Gianni Buttice is BB1 with triple Sunderland

[prime plinth]

Awb has a nice enough role to cover a bb spot i think

[broken patio]

Id hate to own lacroix and watch him play CCB whilst Munoz is playing RW

Like in theory I get it

Actually watching the games would suck

[prime plinth]

Might be worth getting both though

[quick dawn]

wdyt of neto

[prime plinth]

If the fixtures allow

[quick dawn]

trap?

[broken patio]

Fix aren't really there

[prime plinth]

Neto had or has less pl goals than maguire

No

[broken patio]

Just a lot of better picks at his price point
His attacking returns have been bleak for Chelsea so far

[prime plinth]

Yeah i will avoid palace for now

I think Bowen is very likely to drop from my team

Just don't like the points value of strikers

Mateta 150 pts at 7.5m

4.1 ppm. Kind of an example of why it is a bad value position

That said. If any of them can get to 20 goals a season. Becomes solid. Like wood last season

Vvd would've had 160s last season with the new pts. At 6m he's just better value than a bowen

[latent depot]

Wouldn't describe a 7.5 forward scoring 20G as merely "solid"

[wanton whale]

So are most 5.5 and 6s compared to the cheap mids

4 back/5 back is the way icl

[prime plinth]

He went at 5.6 ppm per match for 23 g/a in 35 games. That is also with better bps for strikers and pens

[wanton whale]

I think I’m going to struggle to keep Watkins in my draft sadly

[prime plinth]

So that is what you need from a striker to be value really. 20 goals in 38 games

That said, always potential for upside in a select fixture run. So it isn't clear cut

Bowen ended the season on fire

[cerulean cape]

Rogers isn't a bad replacement

Im trying hard to.keep watkjns

[prime plinth]

Top defenders should reach 160 + pts again. Mids have it way easier than strikers to reach 160s

[cerulean cape]

Insane differential imo

[prime plinth]

My only point really

[prime plinth]

Like him as a starting pick. Not sure he works as well for my wc4 idea

At least Newcastle and palace are at home. Weird fixtures to judge

First 7 gws look really good all together. Seems a really safe pick

Newcastle at home is the most difficult fixture in 8 gws. No point chasing an unknown over him

[wanton whale]

im on both rn

rogers is staying regardless

[little delta]

rogers is great value imo

[wanton whale]

Especially with how bad all the 6.5 and cheaper mids are

[broken patio]

Rogers is a total lock in my team ngl

[wanton whale]

9-9.5

[pale tiger]

elanga goal tonali assist

[wanton whale]

Shocking defending

[prime plinth]

1m itb. We are so back

These teams with 3 strikers

https://tenor.com/view/utter-woke-nonsense-woke-nonsense-woke-sean-dyche-woke-bs-gif-2819365009893060345

[humble dust]

I like it other than mgw

[wanton whale]

Yeah I don’t like mgw for 7.5

Rest is good

[cedar hull]

343 is dead now

Long live big at the back

[wanton whale]

Indeed

[cerulean cape]

Pickford and we good there

Mgw 3gw punt is fine

[little delta]

I like ndiaye and that’s it

[little delta]

Wood/solanke over gibbs white for me

[wanton whale]

Fr and that’s not a good thing

[quick dawn]

cooking or cooked

[obtuse shoal]

How much is Gakpo?

[cedar hull]

7.5 I think

[pale tiger]

7.5

[little delta]

I don’t like gakpo if isak signs

[prime plinth]

Woods minutes any doubt?

Tottenham is weird to call

[prime plinth]

Idm kudus and Enzo but it doesn't feel great

City and Bournemouth is tough

Could benefit him on the counter ig

[broken patio]

You think he'll play LW?

I'm pretty hot on gakpo ngl

Probably will have really good mins to start the season

[little delta]

maybe but just not sure about his mins

for me

[cedar hull]

Think its just extra attacker means less mins

[broken patio]

Maybe

Are we not worried about wirtz' mins?

[cedar hull]

The 120m signing?

[little delta]

What i was abt to say

but i don’t have wirtz rn

[broken patio]

Isak and Ekitike won't both be nailed though and theyre 90m and ~120m

[cedar hull]

Ekitike isn't 90m though

[broken patio]

Oh €90m

Still

[cedar hull]

Imo pool have 4 mids for 3 spots and wirtz pretty much nailed other than weak games

Weak games being cup etc not prem

[little delta]

Wirtz is nailed now come on

100%

[prime plinth]

I like wirtz as an option. Depends how you view Newcastle and Bournemouth fixtures

Idm the idea of mgw for 1-3. Wirtz in 4 if it makes sense

[prime plinth]

Ekitike could play lw

I feel like he could anyway

[humble bane]

Gakpo disrespect :(

he clears Ekitike

[humble bane]

context was if we dont sign Isak

Gakpo is nailed regardless of whether we sign Isak

[cedar hull]

And you still haven't signed isak

[humble bane]

Ekitike isnt though

[humble bane]

I meant he clears Ekitike as a LW

[cedar hull]

[quick dawn]

well rn they might play together

[cerulean cape]

Chiesa lw

👀

Or they play 352 and they dont need a lw

Gakpo redundant for me, Rogers anyday over him

[broken patio]

That would suck for gakpo

[broken patio]

I have Rogers anyway, I'm just thinking about the possibility of gakpo over wirtz

you'll probably say to own neither

[cerulean cape]

Fairs

I do choose gakpo over wirtz

In that case

The answer is neither tho yes imo

Not sure if anyway saw the west ham squad/team

[broken patio]

Nope

[cerulean cape]

Bowen needs to score 20 goals or they're gonna be relegated

352 yest

And the 3 cms were uninspiring

Awb rwb tho

[humble bane]

Chiesa is leaving

no need for him now that we have rio

[cerulean cape]

Direct swap deal with leao

[broken patio]

Can we have a fucking gyokeres price reveal already

[cerulean cape]

Sunday init

[broken patio]

Which keeper are you on?
@cerulean cape
@latent depot
@cedar hull

[cerulean cape]

Pickford/sels

Pickford I find money

[cedar hull]

petro

[cerulean cape]

I lost 0.5m now cos solanke is injured

[humble bane]

Kelleher purely for pen saves

[broken patio]

I could see myself with Pickford Sanchez or petrovic

Sels... I'd rather to 2 forest cbs

[pale tiger]

kelleher or petro

[broken patio]

And don't fancy the triple

[broken patio]

Petro imo

[pale tiger]

i like him but issue is gw1 v salah and gw2 v jsl

guess have to rely on saves

[broken patio]

Wolves are still one of the worst attacks in the league

Don't be fooled

Ofc gw1 isn't a good fix but you can't have everything

[pale tiger]

should i not start jsl gw 2 then

[broken patio]

Kelleher has some bad fix too and plays for what should be a far worse team

[broken patio]

Ofc you start him

You're gonna have your players playing eachother, that's part of FPL

It's not a big deal

I've got Palmer playing Munoz gw1, it doesn't mean that I should bench one of them

[wanton whale]

i dont think gyko starts gw1

[marsh chasm]

Why wouldn’t he

[cerulean cape]

Havertz exists

[wanton whale]

he has to earn his spot over Havertz

[cerulean cape]

Only 2 weeks til start of season too

[broken patio]

Watkins looking better by the day

[cerulean cape]

Embed into artetaball

[wanton whale]

havertz was decent today tbf,

[broken patio]

Yeah I reckon havertz starts gw1

[marsh chasm]

Closer to 3

[broken patio]

We don't even know who's on pens too

Just start with Watkins, can move to gyokeres if he bangs

[wanton whale]

people will still pick gyko expecting him to be completely nailed from the start

wish havertz was a mid still

[acoustic edge]

what’re people’s thoughts on going salah-palmer-saka ?

in something like this (vvd -> lacroix, thiago to 7m mid if wissa doesn’t leave)

saka gw2 scary iwl

[cerulean cape]

Feels like it premium striker or saka

Saka is a good option tbh

Dont like the 6.5m and below mids/fwd

So cant get a saka personally

[cedar hull]

saka very dependent on pens imo

i assume he has them but dont know for sure

[silent jasper]

just asking, how many premium attackers are you guys getting? Surely one of them has to be Salah/Palmer right?

[cedar hull]

on salah/palmer/isak, but ready to drop isak when new info occurs

[silent jasper]

which premium defender do you have to drop in order to afford this team?
I think it's very tight on budget for some position right?

[cedar hull]

i havent dropped any

[cedar hull]

not perfect but again waiting on more info

[latent depot]

Pickford ideally... 2nd choice would actually be Raya. Not optimistic about Brentford losing 3 of their best players as well as Frank, also hate Bournemouth after losing Huijsen and Kerkez, don't rate any other 4.5/5.0 GK

[silent jasper]

looking good, just hoping that Tarkowski will be back in GW1, he have slight injury if I am correct

[cedar hull]

yeah thats some of the info i need

will get munoz/lacroix then

[silent jasper]

their fixture isn't great right? For Palace

[cedar hull]

not as bad as it seems

[latent depot]

Raya/Kinsky is a funny/perfect rotation if it happens

[cedar hull]

about 10th for 8 gws on my ticker

8th for CS and Goals scored

[lavish parcel]

Thoughts on Kluivert over Semenyo?

Need a BOU attacker for those fix

Kluivert surely avoids the YC right? RIGHT?

[latent depot]

Kluivert is penalty theory, Semenyo is xGI theory, both picks are valid

just personal preference

[wanton whale]

fixtures arent that amazing

[lavish parcel]

Attack wise they are

Defensively not

[wanton whale]

far from a 'need' tho

[lavish parcel]

WOL, TOT, BHA, LEE, FUL in first 8

[latent depot]

Angeball is over, mate

[lavish parcel]

Those are games to target

I don't think they'll be so strong defensively all of a sudden

[latent depot]

it's not that they'll be defensively strong, they will actually have a defensive philosophy instead of vibes

vibes and VDV's hamstrings holding them together

[lavish parcel]

Lmfao

They will have more defensive numbers but I don't think it'll be that crazy

If anything they could get close to palace level defence

[latent depot]

I'm expecting solidly midtable defence from Spurs. they had a relegation defence last season

[lavish parcel]

Yeah and Kluivert has good number even without pens

[broken patio]

Ehhhh

He really doesn't

[latent depot]

Kluivert is worse than Enzo without pens

[broken patio]

Especially if you factor out that period where he played AM last season whilst evanilson was injured

BC, evanilson is fit rn

[lavish parcel]

Wait he went from 0.69 to 0.46* without pens

Bruh

[broken patio]

And it's even worse than that

It you take out the bit where he played way more advanced

[lavish parcel]

For xgi

0.46 is still solid

[wanton whale]

Kluviert was good when evan was out and he could get forward more

[broken patio]

He was amazing then

And pretty shit outside of that period

Other than pens

[wanton whale]

fr, had some crazy form

[lavish parcel]

Who would you have if you really need a BOU attacker? Evan/Semenyo/Kluivert?

[broken patio]

Peoples memory will have them thinking he was like that for the whole season though

[wanton whale]

Evan

[broken patio]

Evan probably

[latent depot]

"need" is weird

[broken patio]

But probably none

[latent depot]

Semenyo, but I'm a slut for xGI90

[broken patio]

Yeah why do you 'need' a bou attacker?

[little delta]

anyone have both watkins and rogers?

[broken patio]

Yeah

[latent depot]

Watkins isn't even a 90 minute man

[pulsar chasm]

semenyo xg is deceptive, his xg per shot is really low

[lavish parcel]

Those games after Liverpool

[latent depot]

9.0 for Watkins is diabolical

[broken patio]

Watkins just feels like a safe fwd to start the season with

Can swap to anyone else easily

[wanton whale]

👍

[broken patio]

I like Bowen for the same reason

[latent depot]

don't care, I already explained that I'm a slut for xGI90. more shots = hauls if there's positive variance

[cerulean cape]

Talisman theory

[pulsar chasm]

i’m just saying his XGI is a bit deceptive

[cerulean cape]

His record last 4 seasons kinda disrespected

50 goals last 4 seasons

[wanton whale]

if only bowen wasnt a fwd

[little delta]

@latent depot Do u think wirtz is worth it

[latent depot]

I'm neutral on Wirtz. wouldn't talk anyone out of it, wouldn't talk anyone into it

he's never been on my shortlist tho, but mainly cos 8.5 is an awkward price point

[cerulean cape]

Vvd for gabriel actually

No watkins tho

[wanton whale]

you could if you went 6.5 fwd

[cerulean cape]

6.5m fwds dead

[wanton whale]

not wrong

[latent depot]

I might be Bowen gang, his recalculated total at Forward is higher than my estimate

[slim bane]

Bowen scored in preseason that’s all I need

[cedar hull]

i expected him to lose more tbh, dont want a west ham player though

[cerulean cape]

He'll get more bonus

Since no one else does anything for west ham

[slim bane]

Rice might be an interesting option btw @whoever asked last time

Merino was playing in his spot in the first half

[lone glade]

wasnt AWB decent with the CBIT

[slim bane]

And often found space

[lone glade]

or i saw that somewhere

[silent jasper]

good to know thanks!

[quick dawn]

Dendonkey

[cerulean cape]

In pins

[pulsar chasm]

not really

[broken patio]

Yeah

I'm assuming then that most of you would agree that
Bowen+Pickford
Beats
Watkins+petro?

[cedar hull]

close but no imo, and thats not cos of petro

is bowen 100% on pens btw

[wanton whale]

nah

[zenith jolt]

No

Isn’t he like 3rd choice

[jolly solstice]

There's still 2weeks no

[latent depot]

wait what

Solanke actually injured? I thought it was precautionary

[broken patio]

Doing us all a favour imo

[latent depot]

who's on pens if not Bowen?

[broken patio]

Solanke screams trap but I would've started with him

[cedar hull]

bowen took 1 pen in 24/25

[broken patio]

Paqueta right?

[cedar hull]

and it was against onana

scored 7 missed 3

paqueta probably leaving tho

[acoustic edge]

for those who’re going bournemouth attack, are u playing them gw1?

[zenith jolt]

No

[broken patio]

If I was Id play them

I don't really believe in benching attackers

I could see a logic to benching them for Anderson though for instance

[acoustic edge]

arteta on pens in his press conference:

About Gyokores being the pen taker

“I’m sure he’d step up to take one if we let him. As you said, he consistently scores penalties, but we have two other good takers, so they’ll figure out the situation. If not, I’ll step in at the right moment.”

[broken patio]

Yeah basically

[zenith jolt]

Where’s this from

[broken patio]

They just choose in the moment

[zenith jolt]

[acoustic edge]

mf we both know cba

[west marsh]

I’m pretty sure is Paqueta 1st and Bowen and JWP 2nd and 3rd, can’t remember which way round though

[pulsar chasm]

i’d imagine fulkrug and paq are ahead of him

[west marsh]

Fulkrug isn’t

JWP might be

[pulsar chasm]

he took them for dortmund

[broken patio]

Are either of those gonna play though?

[pulsar chasm]

was he on the pitch for any pens last year

[broken patio]

Consistently?

[pulsar chasm]

well that’s the thing

if paqueta stays he probably plays pretty consistently

[broken patio]

Yeah

[west marsh]

JWP scored 2 while Bowen was on the pitch in the 23/24 season

Against Sheffield United and Bournemouth

Bowen took the pen that got Ten Hag sacked when JWP was on loan and Paqueta was subbed off

[broken patio]

Good info

[west marsh]

And the pen he took before that happened when Declan Rice was still West Hams captain so it means nothing

So it’s probably Paqueta JWP and Bowen on pens in that order

[broken patio]

Jwp doesn't really play anymore does he?

Paqueta is a concern

[cedar hull]

paqueta likely to leave btw

[pulsar chasm]

i’ve not seen that anywhere but i’ll take your word for it

[zenith jolt]

.

Bloody role gone again

[cedar hull]

its 50/50 whether he goes flamengo or not

[broken patio]

Just dont get muted

[pulsar chasm]

was a twitter link

[broken patio]

Just don't post twitter links

[west marsh]

9 starts in his last 10 league matches

[broken patio]

Feck

[latent depot]

well I wasn't Bowen gang for very long

waiting for Gyokeres price

[acoustic edge]

what’s the price where you’d be there for gw1

[latent depot]

8.5 definitely, 9.0 maybe

[acoustic edge]

even with no new info?

ie abt starting

[latent depot]

obv everything's dependent on his minutes during the remaining preseason games

[pulsar chasm]

still can’t see gyokeres starting against united when havertz exists

[prime plinth]

75m for Diaz is wild

[latent depot]

if Gyokeres plays 20 vs Spurs on Thursday then starts the next 2, IMO he starts GW1

[prime plinth]

9.5 if ekitike is 8.5

Cause of pens chance and more likely minutes

[latent depot]

who knows, just wait. Ekitike might have been bumped up cos he was expected to be starting CF for best team in the league

[broken patio]

I think I could stretch to 9.5

Some of that is depending on gakpo though

[copper hinge]

Anyone got VAPM?

[latent depot]

no VAMP spreadsheet cos Ayy prioritising his career over FPL

not that it matters because he wouldn't have it updated for points changes

you'll have to do it manually like me

[cedar hull]

im guessing @cerulean cape cant scrape the ffscout data

[cerulean cape]

I pinned them

[cedar hull]

yeah but we cant scrape all the data for VAMP i assume

not inputting all that manually

scraping fbref data right now

[latent depot]

it doesn't 100% match DC points

but seems to only be 1 match out in some instances

either that or I was looking at the wrong columns

but if that's the case, the correct columns aren't obv

[cedar hull]

yeah its weird

think you gotta use the tckls+int column

[latent depot]

the data really wants me to double up on Lacroix and Munoz, and I think I might do it

[cerulean cape]

Im on munoz now

Over gab

Depends on solanke

[latent depot]

Gabriel is injured at the moment anyway

well, he has niggle apparently

[orchid plank]

Arteta on Gyokeres penalties: "I'm sure that he will step in if they allow him to do so, because as you say he's been very consistent and he's scored many goals but we have some other penalty takers - really good ones as well so they will resolve it themselves and if not, I will intervene in the right moment."

[quick dawn]

bruh everyones injured

put gyo in the game

[slim bane]

fr thank fuck I didn’t bother

[cerulean cape]

@latent depot

Solanke news

[latent depot]

Palace players looking much more enticing vs a Chelsea squad lacking preseason/match fitness

that GW1 isn't nearly as bad as it looks

[broken patio]

I really want munoz

[cedar hull]

Crystal palace convert time, mateta, lacroix, Munoz stonks

[broken patio]

I want to like lacroix

But I know I'd be depressed watching palace if I owned him and not Munoz

[latent depot]

Palace started last season awful, but the squad changed a lot, so I've filtered their underlying stats for starts since 2nd international break (i.e. excluding GW1-7)

they lost in GW8 vs Forest, but regardless:

[cerulean cape]

Eze tbh is an option

I doubt arsenal buy him

He might be better than solanke tbh

[latent depot]

all 3 are so close to being desirable assets

I think I like Sarr best out of all 6.5 attackers

[cerulean cape]

Never again

After last season

Thesr 7 are nailed for me

[latent depot]

I'm looking at Saka GW1-2 to Palmer GW3+

[cerulean cape]

Dont think the ev is there

For a ft

Also thats assume you keep 0.5m itb

And palmer does nothing and doesn't rise

[latent depot]

Saka/Gabriel to Palmer/Munoz

Palmer/Lacroix if price fluctuations

[cerulean cape]

Fairs

[latent depot]

Saka(C) GW2

[cerulean cape]

I end day 7 with this draft now

[cerulean cape]

Perfect for gyokeres hatty

[latent depot]

ok, you have a point. including Munoz in this snip:

[broken patio]

He's an attacker

[broken patio]

Salah wirtz gakpo triple up anyone?

[wanton whale]

nah

Salah VVD is all you need

[stone perch]

VVD in a world of Frimpong and Kerkez is weird

[wanton whale]

CBIT

Wouldn’t go frimpong anyways Bradley takes his minutes

[quick dawn]

Virgil is a safe and good pick

Even kerkez isnr exactly safe

[zenith jolt]

Vvd is the best liv def

by a good margin

[slim bane]

I think we do

But not in time for gw1

cos if we offload Nelson and Jesus as per recent speculations then we’ll be light up front

[cerulean cape]

We have 2 spies in here now

[zenith jolt]

huh